00:07:33 -!- HackEgo has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 00:22:29 not again! 00:22:50 HackEgo! fizzie! 00:23:36 fungot, bring HackEgo back 00:23:36 wob_jonas: what's xps? a transformation language for xml transformation? i'm leaning towards drawing the line at using call/ cc. :p 00:26:51 This time it has just failed to autojoin. 00:27:13 -!- HackEgo has joined. 00:27:16 There. 00:27:28 `owrjan 00:27:29 Your omnidryad saddle principal swatty kind "Darth Ook" oerjan the shifty loud punster is a hazy expert in minor compaction. Also a Groadep who minces Roald Dahl. He could never render the word "amortized" so he put it here for connivance. His ark-nemesis is Noah. He twice punned without noticing it. 00:27:37 `5 w 00:27:42 1/2:yeti//These are not the yetis you are looking for. \ advertisement//Advertisement starts: have you heard about this hip and froopy 'net place called #esoteric? It is on freenode. Brought to you by The Board of Timeskewed Advertiesements. \ tvtrope//We'll write about TVTropes here, we just have to finish these tabs first. \ mad//This wis 00:27:44 `n 00:27:45 2/2:dom entry was censored for being too accurate. \ stibia//Stibia is a spice that grows in your leg. 00:30:21 ``` perl -e warn 50/6 00:30:22 Warning: something's wrong at -e line 1. 00:30:28 ``` perl -e 'warn 50/6' 00:30:29 8.33333333333333 at -e line 1. 00:32:45 [ 50%6 00:32:46 wob_jonas: 8.33333 00:32:57 [ (%6)*50 00:32:58 wob_jonas: 8.33333 00:33:02 [ 6%~50 00:33:03 wob_jonas: 8.33333 00:34:43 `recipe 00:34:44 ​ chocolate over the batter. Place on a lightly floured board in \ a bowl. Add the remaining ingredients in boiling water to combine. \ Cover and bake until the roasted to the boil. Stir in the cream \ of the liquid and spread with peanut oil in a small bowl. Pour into \ serving plate. Then, for a baking sheet and allow to cool. \ \ Prehea 00:34:49 `starwars 7 00:34:50 the Sarlacc \ Admiral Firmus Piett \ Ponda Baba \ Conan Antonio Motti \ Shmi \ Grievous \ Chewbacca 00:34:58 `1 recipe 00:34:59 1/3:g spinach in slices of completely. Combine \ mixture and salt in a warm place until it begins to cool for \ the heat and add the eggs to the egg mixture, add the spices \ and garlic to deep fryger plastic crumbs. With a sharp, if you like one fat \ from the heat and add the prepared pastry flour, cheese, and coriander \ to the pot; stir th 00:35:55 deep fryger plastic crumbs? 00:38:09 in a warm place until it begins to cool for the heat 00:38:43 fungot: Could you learn to make recipes too? 00:38:43 fizzie: ( fnord encoding file proc if-existent? if-non-existent? fnord) 00:48:39 -!- moonythedwarf has quit (Quit: Leaving). 01:05:25 `rm -v wisdom/stibia 01:05:25 rm: invalid option -- ' ' \ Try 'rm --help' for more information. 01:05:28 `dowg stibia 01:05:33 ``` rm -v wisdom/stibia 01:05:43 7411:2016-04-17 learn Stibia is a spice that grows in your leg. 01:05:44 removed 'wisdom/stibia' 01:06:02 wob_jonas: forget hth 01:06:21 shachaf: ah right. I forgot. 01:28:24 Oh, another question. 01:29:00 If you write an integer in binary, which means radix 2, you can call each digit a "bit". If you write an integer in ternary, which means radix 3, you can call each digit a "trit". 01:29:30 If I write an integer in radix 5, which you told me is called quinary, then what should I call a digit? 01:30:27 i'd tell you to just choose one word for base n 01:30:32 but that would be nitpicking 01:30:49 shachaf: like "digit"? 01:31:14 wait, let me check the C-intercal manual 01:31:27 maybe it tells something in the trintercal section 01:31:58 (i'm going for the swat hth) 01:33:39 it says 01:33:48 "The small data types hold 16 bits, 10 trits, 8 quarts, 6 quints, 6 sexts, or 5 septs, and the large types are always twice this size." 01:33:58 so the word I want is a "quint" 01:34:08 I don't think there's any special words for octal or hexadecimal digits either, and those are a lot more popular than quinary. 01:34:40 fizzie: some call hexadecimal digits "hexits". I use that word sometimes, although I admit it's a stupid one 01:34:49 there's also "nybble" 01:34:59 or maybe it's "nibble"? let me look it up 01:35:05 I was going to mention nibble/nybble. 01:35:21 oh man, do finns pronounce "nybble" with the finnish y? 01:35:24 But it really "feels" more like a four-bit group than a hexadecimal digit. 01:35:44 nybble with a "y" in English 01:35:53 fizzie: yes, that makes sense 01:35:55 `` echo | sha256sum 01:35:55 01ba4719c80b6fe911b091a7c05124b64eeece964e09c058ef8f9805daca546b - 01:36:09 which is why a hexit is a different word 01:36:19 but then you'd have to call decimal digits "decits" or something 01:36:31 I would call each aligned character pair there a "byte" and each character a "nybble". 01:36:52 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Units_of_information#Dibit has a bunch of names for various groups of bits. 01:36:55 or call a base ten digit a "tent" (and a quinary digit a "quit" obviously) 01:37:17 "2 bits: dibit,[12][13][10][14] crumb,[15] quad, quarter, taste, tayste, tidbit, tydbit, lick, lyck, semi-nibble." 01:38:14 how about "nucleobase" hth 01:38:40 "96 bits: bentobox" the food thing has gotten out of hand 01:38:45 fizzie: meh, anything beats the Intel terminology of "double quadword" and "quadruple quadword" for 16 and 32 byte long chunks 01:40:15 and they put those things in instruction mnemonics, and the word "double" is also used for 8-byte IEEE floats in instruction mnemonics 01:40:18 it's horrible 01:41:16 and then of course there's all the people who use "long" to mean either a 4-byte chunk or an 8-byte chunk 01:41:25 quidruple is a nickname for £4 01:42:35 Unlike quidruble, which is a square unit corresponding to £ £*₽ 01:43:31 Squared currency units aren't used very often, though there's a product called Square Cash which presumably uses them. 01:44:59 -!- oerjan has joined. 01:47:00 shachaf: I guess startup accelerators are maybe measured in products / money squared? 01:51:28 fungot, are you a startup accelerator? 01:51:28 wob_jonas: actually, rather... widget type. the occurs check constrains that problem, then the syntactic-closure doesn't know about. 01:52:02 nah, you don't need an occurs check, the investors don't care about semantic soundness of the plan 01:52:07 * oerjan looks at Warrigal's idling score 01:52:28 as long as there's enough hype, the plan might as well be circular 01:52:37 fizzie++ 01:52:44 I frequently see people write things like "$5 dollars" so I guess it's not that uncommon a unit. 01:53:51 [[Quantum brainfuck]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=54248&oldid=8552 * Oerjan * (+26) /* External resources */ R.I.P. and not on Wayback 01:56:30 oerjan: They're in the archive. 01:56:34 oerjan: https://github.com/graue/esofiles/tree/master/qbf/impl 01:56:52 @metar ENVA 01:56:53 ENVA 270150Z 06003KT 010V110 CAVOK M10/M16 Q1047 RMK WIND 670FT 09006KT 01:57:33 If I measure the tempperature at an airport myself, would that count as metarial nonpublic information? 01:58:22 fizzie: ooh 02:04:38 [[Quantum brainfuck]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=54249&oldid=54248 * Oerjan * (+42) /* External resources */ Was in the archive, thanks fizzie 02:08:01 -!- Melvar has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds). 02:08:58 -!- sprocklem_ has joined. 02:09:18 -!- sprocklem has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 02:17:16 Is there a name for the human movement whose purpose is to get on or over an obstacle that's taller than your waist, and whose procedure is to do a jump starting from squatting position, while your hand is on the obstacle and you're pushing yourself up with your arm to jump higher, the goal being to get your foot or knee or upper body on the obstac 02:17:16 le and climb up from there? 02:17:49 You're facing the obstacle. 02:18:32 -!- variable has joined. 02:21:58 -!- Melvar has joined. 02:23:08 `? lie group 02:23:09 lie group? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ 02:23:17 ``` echo wisdom/lie* 02:23:19 wisdom/lie wisdom/lie algebra wisdom/lie bracket 02:23:22 `? lie algebra 02:23:24 A Lie algebra is what you get if you take the region infinitesimally close to the identity of a Lie group and blow it up to normal size. 02:23:24 `? lie bracket 02:23:25 `? lie 02:23:26 Politicians try to stay within the lie bracket: Not so many lies that voters cannot stand it, but not so few that they think you have nothing to give them. 02:23:27 Lies are even easier than monoids. They form groups, known as Lie groups. 02:24:08 right. "wisdom/lie algebra" is clearly mine, the other two aren't 02:24:17 `dowg lie 02:24:26 2981:2013-05-29 echo "Lies are even easier than monoids. They form groups, known as Lie groups." >wisdom/lie 02:34:50 -!- variable has changed nick to function. 02:56:25 `dowg lie algebra 02:56:32 6173:2015-11-02 le/rn lie algebra/A Lie algebra is what you get if you take the region infinitesimally close to the identity of a Lie group and blow it up to normal size. 02:56:38 I BEG TO DIFFER 02:57:23 `` rm -v bin/*rjan 02:57:25 removed ‘bin/dowrjan’ \ removed ‘bin/owrjan’ \ removed ‘bin/quoerjan’ \ removed ‘bin/quørjan’ \ removed ‘bin/swrjan’ \ removed ‘bin/translatetoerjan’ \ removed ‘bin/zalgoerjan’ 02:57:44 was getting out of hand. 02:59:18 -!- wob_jonas has quit (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client). 03:08:04 -!- aloril has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 03:16:14 -!- sleffy has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 03:49:26 -!- xkapastel has quit (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity). 03:58:17 -!- sleffy has joined. 04:05:16 -!- ais523 has joined. 04:13:50 -!- ais523 has quit (Quit: sorry for my connection). 04:14:02 -!- ais523 has joined. 04:14:40 -!- erkin has quit (Quit: Ouch! 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[L. sigillum. See {Seal} a stamp.] 17:49:00 A seal; a signature. --Dryden. 17:49:00 [1913 Webster] 17:49:00 17:49:03 Of talismans and sigils knew the power. --Pope. 17:49:05 [1913 Webster] 17:49:11 No Idea what that would be in Unicode 17:49:20 Or even plain ASCII, for that Matter. 17:49:27 -!- jaboja64 has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 17:50:05 APic: a sigil is basically a punctuation mark that's part of the spelling of an identifier 17:50:17 such as the $ before variable names in PHP and BuzzFizz 17:50:38 Algol used a sigil on keywords instead (typically .) 17:51:04 Aaaah 17:51:11 Then that would be better than Case 17:51:23 Just because CamelCase sucks badly 17:51:35 My Momma once gave me Camel-Milk-Soap 17:51:47 That one even smelt worse than normal Soap 😉 17:52:18 Even forgot where she got it. Must have been some Holiday-Trip 17:52:32 In some southern State 17:58:57 ,o0(But the best Soap must be human Soap like from the Fight-Clubs… 😉) 17:59:14 ,o0(„We are selling their own Asses back to them!“) 18:00:18 APic: if I'm using case, what case should be used for variables and what case for keywords 18:00:57 the only languages I've seen that have an idiomatic distinction have been BASIC variants 18:01:03 Yup 18:01:05 which use lowercase for variables and typically some sort of capitalisation for keywords 18:01:17 (older BASICs in allcaps, newer BASICs in initcapas) 18:01:21 So _i_ would use Uppercase for KEYWORDS and lowercase for Variables. 18:04:46 hmm, thinking about it, I'm leaning towards sigilling keywords, as most of the contexts where you'd use keyword you can use punctuation instead 18:05:02 the common choices for that are @ and \ (sometimes interchangeably!) 18:05:07 but @ seems better 18:05:45 (C has an interesting way to do keywords _Which_Looks_Like_This but that's because it suddenly realised it needed to have namespaced the keywords all along and there weren't many namespaces left) 18:08:14 -!- `^_^v has quit (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep). 18:11:16 * APic loves C 18:11:36 -!- augur has joined. 18:11:39 * APic gotta look in the current IOCCCs some Time 18:11:44 Hi augur 18:12:07 apparently the development version of C is considering using [[this]] syntax 18:12:16 for a pragma/attribute-style thing 18:14:23 Nice 18:14:47 As long as Borland's #pragma will not become standard... 18:15:13 * APic remembers that Turbo C did Preprocessing and Compiling in one Pass. Is that Memory correct? 18:16:03 I think it's possible to implement that, I'm not sure if it was actually done like that but it's plausible 18:17:43 Good 18:18:16 * APic thinks that is because Borland or later Inprise actually got the Idea to implement their Pragmas with a Preprocessing-Directive 18:19:38 s/because/why/ 18:21:12 Every GNU-Extension that makes it in a Standard i adore 18:21:31 Every MSVC-Extension i despise 18:21:34 😉 18:26:24 -!- Phantom_Hoover has joined. 18:26:24 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Changing host). 18:26:24 -!- Phantom_Hoover has joined. 18:29:25 <\oren\_> I like the idea of sigilling keywords and using as little puntuation as possible 18:29:40 what sigil would you use? 18:29:45 note that this is basically TeX 18:29:46 <\oren\_> ` 18:29:58 <\oren\_> or ; 18:29:58 or, well, with ` it isn't TeX but \ is visually similar 18:30:14 is the ; prefix, postfix, or circumfix? 18:30:37 <\oren\_> a symbol you have to type a lot should be one of the symbols you can type without using shift 18:30:43 -!- idris-bot has joined. 18:30:58 maybe that's why Algol used . 18:30:59 <\oren\_> ;',./[]\-=` 18:31:17 …and why TeX used \, although it's in a bit of an awkward place on a UK keyboard 18:31:34 (even worse on a US keyboard though, if I remember where it is correctly) 18:31:42 maybe the sigil should be a letter, then 18:31:45 <\oren\_> ais523: right bove enter 18:32:01 which becomes forbidden at the start of variable names 18:32:08 <\oren\_> ais523: q 18:32:15 don't order-pp and chaos-pp use 8 as a sigil? 18:32:24 <\oren\_> ais523: yeah 18:32:27 (which works well because it's not valid at the start of an identifier in regular C) 18:33:16 I can see the argument for using ; as a sigil because it's literally one of the keys you rest your fingers on when in the standard typing position 18:33:25 but on the other hand, it'd look bizarre 18:33:37 -!- function has quit (Quit: Found 1 in /dev/zero). 18:33:45 <\oren\_> I wounder if you could scientifically check which letter is rarest at start of variable names 18:33:58 <\oren\_> by surveying github or something 18:34:31 well, it'd be hard to come up with a lot of keywords that legitimately start with that letter, though 18:34:45 I'm guessing q, though, because most of the other rare letters (j, x, z) tend to be used as single-letter variable names 18:34:52 q can be but that's rarer 18:35:07 Nowadays, i would probably use € 18:35:22 <\oren\_> qif x = 4 qthen qforeach 18:35:27 Because € is moar worth than $ nowadays 😉 18:35:50 1 Euro equals 18:35:51 1.22 US Dollar 18:35:56 Says the almighty Google. 18:36:00 \o/ 18:36:35 When Trump would manage to start a War (— which he cannot, in my Opinion), € would probably be even worthier. ☺ 18:36:35 <\oren\_> qwhile is almost pronounceable 18:36:41 s/When/If/ 18:36:49 \oren\_: *nod* 18:37:46 <\oren\_> but you would have to have a starndard way to avoid q at start of words 18:38:16 <\oren\_> qmy aquestion = 18:38:33 * ais523 ponders whether @ is easier to type as Shift-' (on a UK keyboard) or Shift-2 (on a US keyboard) 18:38:53 \oren\_: now you need an escape for "aq" too 18:39:07 <\oren\_> alaqsa 18:39:29 <\oren\_> aqsa is the only word I can think of that starts with aq 18:39:33 esbele? 18:39:55 Oh 18:39:56 Sorry 18:39:58 Wrong Window 18:40:13 In #WorldChat@IRCnet i just learned that „yw“ is „mh“ upside-down 18:40:29 * APic is so used to Serifes that i had not realized until a few Moments ago 18:40:30 h and y look fairly different in most fonts, even if you rotate one 180° 18:40:46 So i tried putting „alqsa“ upside-down 😸 18:40:53 <\oren\_> APic: there is an upside down y that is better 18:40:54 Yup 18:40:59 * APic likes Terminus best 18:41:04 Inconsolata second-best 18:41:22 \oren\_: v? 18:41:30 Uh 18:41:36 <\oren\_> ɦ 18:41:41 h 18:41:44 Uh 18:41:44 Darn 18:42:34 <\oren\_> I still haven't verified that all characters in my font are distinct 18:43:12 <\oren\_> not sure how to do it efficiently either 18:43:19 *shrug* 18:43:34 <\oren\_> I guess by sorting them? 18:43:44 Probably 18:44:00 Chinese Letters are sorted by Count of Marks, i learned. 18:44:06 * APic hopes that Information is correct. 18:44:24 <\oren\_> yeah stroke order 18:44:29 * APic never had a Chinese←→whatever-Dictionary in my Hands 18:44:31 Good 18:45:15 <\oren\_> APic: I have a kanji dictionary. it sorts first by radical (which are ordered by stroke number) and then again by stroke number 18:45:51 ic 18:45:53 Thanks 18:47:56 <\oren\_> I do have l distinct from ⅼ 18:48:14 <\oren\_> and from 1I| 18:50:03 <\oren\_> ℐ𝓁𝑙𝑙𝗅𝒍𝗹𝘭𝕝𝐥𝔩 18:50:35 <\oren\_> I think thats all the ells 18:51:47 <\oren\_> I need to write some sort of character sorting program 18:58:14 Definitely. 19:41:07 -!- wob_jonas has joined. 19:41:26 -!- sleffy has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 19:42:17 ais523: for keywords vs identifiers, I mostly recommend using punctuation for most syntax, fixing a short list of bare keywords, make sure each of them is common enough as a keyword that nobody forgets about it, and add a trailing hash mark to all rare keywords and all keywords you introduce in later extensions. 19:43:22 I'd prefer all keywords to work consistently 19:43:36 especially as I'm planning to have "key variables" which are like variables but have side effects 19:43:46 and want those to work the same way syntactically 19:44:07 ais523: another choice is if you can make the syntax of the language such that the user can shadow any keyword with a declaration, but firstly it's very hard to make such a syntax (metafont and scheme are about the only languages that succeed, 19:44:39 scheme doesn't let you shadow ( and ) 19:44:52 and in metafont this can cause horrible screwups when you make a typo in a declaration, mostly because you can shadow almost all punctuation tokens too), constrains future syntax, and worst of all, modules/headers you import can shadow a keyword for you and your program might not know. 19:44:54 * ais523 ponders what the minimum number of keywords a lisp-alike can get away with is 19:45:19 I guess just s and k 19:45:35 ais523: yes, I mean make all non-punctuation keywords shadowable, and make no punctuation shadowable, so all punctuation are always built-in syntax. 19:46:24 '"key variables" which are like variables but have side effects' => we call those macros 19:46:31 (or sometimes sparks) 19:46:49 it's very different from a macro 19:46:53 more like a memory-mapped volatile thing 19:47:17 although, it's not really like either 19:47:38 ais523: um, so you mean variables that don't have syntax side effects, they follow ordinary syntax, but have arbitrary getter and setter functions? 19:47:43 you can do things like object.exists = false (where exists is a key variable) and the object stops existing 19:47:53 well, except that there are no booleans so you'd set it to 0 19:48:07 uh... what do you mean by "stops existing" 19:48:21 it gets deleted 19:48:32 like free() in C 19:48:42 this is an esolang, it's got rather esoteric ways of thinking about things 19:50:16 *nod* 19:50:55 I have some language design questions too, I'll ask a bit later, but first I have to do some real world stuff 19:50:59 -!- xkapastel has quit (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity). 19:51:02 -!- augur has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 19:51:07 -!- ais523 has quit (Quit: quit). 19:52:40 What if you set it to 2, I wonder 19:54:45 <\oren\_> Taneb: it becomes an array 19:55:03 I see 19:55:20 cat.exists=9? 19:56:05 Good old Cats 19:56:09 😸 19:56:41 speaking of strange thinking... http://hitchhikers.wikia.com/wiki/God#Final_Proof_of_the_Non-Existence_of_God 19:57:20 Good old Puffs of Logics 😉 20:02:54 `unidecode 😸😉 20:05:34 U+1F638 GRINNING CAT FACE WITH SMILING EYES U+1F609 WINKING FACE 20:05:38 Yup 20:05:53 `thanks HackEgo 20:06:08 Thanks, HackEgo. ThackEgo. 20:06:11 `unidecode 🙌 20:06:23 -!- HackEgo has joined. 20:06:25 wb HackEgo 20:06:39 U+1F64C PERSON RAISING BOTH HANDS IN CELEBRATION 20:19:42 -!- wob_jonas has quit (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client). 20:24:50 -!- wob_jonas has joined. 20:27:32 -!- wob_jonas has quit (Client Quit). 20:42:53 -!- HackEgo has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 20:44:06 -!- augur has joined. 20:50:31 -!- lldd has quit (Quit: Leaving). 20:52:57 -!- xkapastel has joined. 21:07:45 -!- sprocklem has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds). 21:17:26 -!- LKoen has joined. 21:20:35 -!- mniip has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 21:21:33 -!- LKoen has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 21:24:27 -!- mniip has joined. 21:27:29 -!- Cale_ has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds). 21:28:21 -!- Cale_ has joined. 21:30:32 -!- mniip has quit (Max SendQ exceeded). 21:32:06 [[Grawlix]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=54250&oldid=54126 * DMC * (+106) 21:36:13 [[Bitter]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=54251&oldid=54160 * DMC * (+34) 21:37:32 -!- mniip has joined. 21:56:43 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 22:12:37 -!- augur has joined. 22:14:11 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 22:14:26 -!- augur has joined. 22:33:15 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 22:40:33 `5 w 22:41:33 -!- sprocklem has joined. 22:47:23 Not been very stable lately. 22:47:45 Let's see what's wrong now. 22:48:21 http://ix.io/Qpa <- that's wrong 22:49:28 When it remounts the filesystem as read-only due to errors, HackEgo stops working; I forget exactly why. 22:51:24 I shall "fix" it by restarting, but that thing's really dying. 22:52:16 -!- HackEgo has joined. 22:52:41 `` 5 w # LET'S TRY THAT AGAIN 22:52:56 1/1:modal logic//"modal logic" means "the most common logic" (that is, classical logic). \ phrel//Phrel is a swear word rdocscovered in 2018. It refers to a fluid that holds seeds. \ detonation//Detonation is the act of destroying a musical instrument. \ alise//elliott's not hiding over here \ c#//C Pound is Java's good twin. 22:53:22 That wasn't too wise. 23:01:26 -!- HackEgo has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 23:04:15 -!- boily has joined. 23:04:53 fizzie: tdnh 23:06:15 -!- laerling has quit (Quit: Leaving). 23:08:55 @metar CYUL 23:08:56 CYUL 272300Z 21009KT 15SM FEW090 BKN120 06/M02 A3002 RMK AC2AS5 SLP169 23:09:02 warm warm warm ^^♪ 23:09:20 @metar KOAK 23:09:21 KOAK 272253Z 21008KT 10SM FEW200 13/M03 A3004 RMK AO2 SLP173 T01281033 23:09:54 -!- augur has joined. 23:14:24 -!- augur has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 23:15:12 @metar EGLL 23:15:12 EGLL 272250Z AUTO 01004KT 350V050 9999 NCD M04/M07 Q1020 NOSIG 23:15:17 BEAST FROM THE EAST 23:15:26 Followed by the PEST FROM THE WEST. 23:16:35 -!- HackEgo has joined. 23:16:45 Not sure how long that'll survive. 23:17:14 `dowg modal logic 23:17:21 ((It didn't fail to IO error this time, it failed to "INFO: task multibot:939 blocked for more than 120 seconds", and then the autorejoin didn't work.) 23:17:23 8486:2016-06-16 le/rn modal logic/"modal logic" means "the most common logic" (that is, classical logic). 23:17:28 what! 23:17:41 -!- augur has joined. 23:22:00 -!- wob_jonas has joined. 23:23:37 fizzie: it remounts the file system as read only? do you have the kernel logs? is it logical file system errors, or IO errors of the underlying disk? 23:24:11 fizzie: and how many times have this happened within the last two years? 23:24:46 wob_jonas: http://ix.io/Qpa 23:25:15 It's a recent development. 23:25:28 Presumably CaC shunted the instance to a bad host. 23:26:39 (I've no idea what their block device layer is based on.) 23:33:04 fizziello. does CaC have _any_ good host? 23:33:40 boily: I guess s/bad/worse/ 23:42:23 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 23:44:45 fizzie: ouch 23:44:58 so IO errors 23:57:31 not sure about the precise error, but that's what my CaC used to be like all the time... an I/O error leading to a r/o remount a month, later every two weeks 23:58:20 ouch 23:58:25 that's really bad