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00:29:55 <esowiki> [[Talk:Surtic]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=55165 * Galaxtone * (+176) Created page with "=== Uhm, "program", It looks like a "programming language" to me === The name says it all. ~~~~"
00:30:05 <esowiki> [[Talk:Surtic]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=55166&oldid=55165 * Galaxtone * (-2) /* Uhm, "program", It looks like a "programming language" to me */
00:36:01 <esowiki> [[]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=55167 * Galaxtone * (+28) Redirected page to [[Emoji-gramming]]
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00:43:22 <fizzie> I don't understand what it is with Finland and Eurovision. No matter what we send (with one exception), it never goes well at all.
00:43:27 <fizzie> Not that UK fares much better.
00:44:57 <izabera> <something about israel not even being in europe>
00:49:38 <oerjan> oh is it that day again
00:50:14 <fizzie> Yes, don't worry, it's done already.
01:21:38 <esowiki> [[Talk:Emoji-gramming]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=55169&oldid=55168 * Oerjan * (+91) Of course
01:24:25 <Galaxtone> I'm actually working on an interpreter for it aswell
01:24:29 <HackEso> Your omnidryad saddle principal golfing toe-obsessed "Darth Ook" oerjan the shifty loud hero is a hazy expert in minor compaction. Also a Groadep who minces Roald Dahl. He could never render the word "amortized" so he put it here for connivance. His ark-nemesis is Noah. He twice punned without noticing it.
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01:24:39 <Galaxtone> which I already assumed that I could edit to add a link to it
01:24:40 <oerjan> i myself make way more programs in other people's esolangs than i've made esolangs
01:25:13 <shachaf> Do my C++ programs count as programs in other people's esolangs?
01:25:31 <shachaf> Or does the C++ committee not count as people?
01:25:51 <pikhq> The C++ committee counted.
01:25:53 <shachaf> It's made up of people, at least.
01:25:56 <pikhq> Past tense, of course.
01:26:04 <oerjan> well i'm not sure they've been given a proper turing test
01:26:05 <shachaf> What about template programs?
01:26:20 <oerjan> or voight-kampff [sp?]
01:26:28 <pikhq> Template programs are one of the stronger arguments for C++ being an esolang.
01:27:13 <shachaf> Good afternookhq. How's jams?
01:28:17 <oerjan> we _do_ have at least one C++ template program on the wiki, i recall
01:29:09 <Galaxtone> Is brainfuck still turning complete if you make the tape bounded to 2 items but you have two types Null and List and you can go in and out?
01:30:42 <oerjan> is that different from two cells with unbounded non-negative integers?
01:31:34 <oerjan> `learn Turning is what Turing is doing in his grave because of all esolangers misspelling his name.
01:31:36 <HackEso> Learned 'turning': Turning is what Turing is doing in his grave because of all esolangers misspelling his name.
01:31:46 <oerjan> `learn Turning is what Turing is doing in his grave because of all the esolangers misspelling his name.
01:31:49 <HackEso> Relearned 'turning': Turning is what Turing is doing in his grave because of all the esolangers misspelling his name.
01:32:22 <Galaxtone> | (pipe) switches the header between 1st and 2nd cell, + sets cell to empty list of 2, - sets cell to null, ^ goes into list, V goes out of list, and . and , somehow functioned in this system.
01:32:29 <shachaf> i,i because there exist esolangers misspelling his name
01:32:50 <oerjan> Galaxtone: that typo is how our phrase "Turning tarpit" came about
01:33:02 <HackEso> turning tarpit? ¯\(°_o)/¯
01:33:08 <HackEso> prography:Prography is the art of turning computational algorithms into something totally incomprehensible to anyone whose brain isn't made of silicon and arsenic. \ turning:Turning is what Turing is doing in his grave because of all the esolangers misspelling his name.
01:34:42 <oerjan> what's an "empty list of 2"?
01:36:06 <Galaxtone> [[[[[[[[[], []], null], null], []], null], []], []], null]
01:36:13 <Galaxtone> the 1st value of each list indexes further
01:36:18 <Galaxtone> while the second represents a value
01:36:59 <oerjan> your operations are a bit unclear to me.
01:38:48 <oerjan> Galaxtone: have you looked at V (Fmota) on the wiki?
01:39:35 <oerjan> it's not quite the same but it has a tree you can go up and down in
01:40:58 <shachaf> oerjan: C++14 template programming is way better
01:41:08 <shachaf> you can properly confuse yourself finally
01:41:24 <oerjan> Galaxtone: don't you essentially have an infinite tape just by going in and out like that?
01:42:09 <oerjan> dependent what the other commands do when you're inside a list
01:42:15 <pikhq> shachaf: Studies go acceptably.
01:42:27 <pikhq> At some point, I will even have a degree.
01:42:47 <oerjan> . o O ( celsius or fahrenheit )
01:43:29 <pikhq> I will be 1 degrees Math
01:44:58 <shachaf> In the UK they just say "n maths" instead of "n degrees math"
01:45:42 <pikhq> Of course, in the US in formal writing they will say "One degree Mathematic", so hey
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02:13:35 <zzo38> Did you read the document I wrote about IMIDI?
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05:14:53 <esowiki> [[Schmuu]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=55170&oldid=55162 * Schmuui * (+28) /* List of statements */
05:17:10 <esowiki> [[Schmuu]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=55171&oldid=55170 * Galaxtone * (-16) /* List of statements */
05:18:14 <esowiki> [[Schmuu]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=55172&oldid=55171 * Schmuui * (+37)
05:22:33 <esowiki> [[Schmuu]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=55173&oldid=55172 * Schmuui * (-89)
05:27:25 <esowiki> [[Schmuu]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=55174&oldid=55173 * Schmuui * (+167) /* List of built-in modules */
05:28:37 <esowiki> [[Schmuu]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=55175&oldid=55174 * Schmuui * (+0) /* List of built-in modules */
05:30:54 <esowiki> [[Schmuu]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=55176&oldid=55175 * Schmuui * (+348) /* Examples */
05:34:14 <esowiki> [[Schmuu]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=55177&oldid=55176 * Schmuui * (+39) /* Quine? */
05:34:55 <esowiki> [[Schmuu]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=55178&oldid=55177 * Schmuui * (-167) /* List of built-in modules */
05:38:32 <esowiki> [[Schmuu]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=55179&oldid=55178 * Schmuui * (+61) /* List of built-in modules */
05:40:06 <esowiki> [[Schmuu]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=55180&oldid=55179 * Schmuui * (+3) /* List of built-in modules */
05:40:40 <esowiki> [[Schmuu]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=55181&oldid=55180 * Schmuui * (+4) /* List of built-in modules */
05:43:42 <esowiki> [[Esoteric programming language]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=55182&oldid=55107 * Schmuui * (+50) /* Themed */
05:44:51 <esowiki> [[Esoteric programming language]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=55183&oldid=55182 * Schmuui * (-50) /* Themed */
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05:52:20 <esowiki> [[Sch]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=55184 * Schmuui * (+21) Redirected page to [[Schmuui]]
05:52:45 <esowiki> [[Sch]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=55185&oldid=55184 * Schmuui * (-1) Redirected page to [[Schmuu]]
05:53:43 <esowiki> [[Schmuu]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=55186&oldid=55181 * Galaxtone * (-26) Meh.
05:53:51 <esowiki> [[Schmuu]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=55187&oldid=55186 * Schmuui * (-439) /* Quine? */
05:55:14 <esowiki> [[Schmuu!]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=55188 * Schmuui * (+68) Redirected page to [[Schmuu]]
05:59:20 <esowiki> [[Schmuu]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=55189&oldid=55187 * Galaxtone * (+497) Added quine example
06:00:17 <esowiki> [[Schmuu]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=55190&oldid=55189 * Galaxtone * (-1) /* Quine */
06:02:09 <esowiki> [[Schmuu]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=55191&oldid=55190 * Galaxtone * (+8) Change Reader module to Printer module
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11:23:57 <HackEso> The magic was in you all along.
11:24:30 <int-e> . o O ( There are but two kinds of magic: The kind that never fails, and the bad kind. )
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13:15:23 <esowiki> [[Wishmaster]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=55192 * Jabutosama * (+946) Created page with "Wishmaster is a joke language created by [[user:Jabutosama]]. It is a manifestation of philosophical idea that no one can prove or disprove relation of arbitrary actions in co..."
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17:26:08 <Galaxtone> Who has permission to modify https://esolangs.org/wiki/Emoji-gramming
17:30:12 <esowiki> [[Emoji-gramming]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=55193&oldid=52543 * Galaxtone * (+31)
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18:09:02 <esowiki> [[Emoji-gramming]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=55194&oldid=55193 * Galaxtone * (+736) Hello world example
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18:26:50 <Galaxtone> that imode thing was like my conncetion so itped something to see if i was connected
18:32:37 <HackEso> [U+20000 CJK UNIFIED IDEOGRAPH-20000]
18:32:59 <HackEso> [U+4E00 CJK UNIFIED IDEOGRAPH-4E00]
18:33:42 <HackEso> [U+AC00 HANGUL SYLLABLE GA] [U+3400 CJK UNIFIED IDEOGRAPH-3400] [U+2A700 CJK UNIFIED IDEOGRAPH-2A700] [U+A000 YI SYLLABLE IT] [U+13000 EGYPTIAN HIEROGLYPH A001]
18:34:31 <HackEso> [U+1342E EGYPTIAN HIEROGLYPH AA032]
18:34:58 <int-e> wow, so many hieroglyphs
18:35:22 <HackEso> [U+0061 LATIN SMALL LETTER A]
18:36:06 <int-e> Galaxtone: I was looking for the longest consecutive ranges of alphanumeric characters in unicode...
18:37:09 <int-e> And I didn't expect hieroglyphs to come up at all, tbh
18:39:42 <int-e> > let xs = group $ zipWith (-) [fromEnum x | x <- [minBound..maxBound], generalCategory x `elem` [UppercaseLetter,LowercaseLetter,TitlecaseLetter,ModifierLetter,OtherLetter,DecimalNumber,OtherNumber]] [0..] in text $ unwords $ map (\(x,y) -> [chr y, '-', chr (y+x-1)]) $ reverse $ sort $ zip (map length xs) (zipWith (+) (map head xs) (scanl (+) 0 (map length xs)))
18:39:45 <lambdabot> 𠀀-𪛖 一-鿌 가-힣 㐀-䶵 𪜀-𫜴 ꀀ-ꒌ 𓀀-𓐮 𒀀-𒎘 ᐁ-ᙬ 𖠀-𖨸 丽-𪘀 ø-ˁ 豈-舘 ﯓ-ﴽ 𝕒-𝚥 ჼ-ቈ 𐘀-𐜶 Ḁ-ἕ ꔀ-ꘌ ...
18:44:15 <int-e> Galaxtone: the > is part of it (or you can use @run instead of >)
18:45:14 <int-e> The language is Haskell; for extended experiments, please use private messages (direct chat, whatever)
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18:58:19 <esowiki> [[Talk:Emoji-gramming]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=55195&oldid=55169 * Galaxtone * (+79) /* What does "" mean? */ new section
18:58:43 <esowiki> [[Talk:Emoji-gramming]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=55196&oldid=55195 * Galaxtone * (+13) /* What does "" mean? */
19:01:53 <HackEso> [U+00E4 LATIN SMALL LETTER A WITH DIAERESIS]
19:03:31 <esowiki> [[Talk:Emoji-gramming]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=55197&oldid=55196 * Galaxtone * (+34) /* What does "" mean? */
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19:27:56 <Galaxtone> also pesky space so it doesnt trigger commands
19:28:52 <int-e> Galaxtone: it does it no matter what because spammers tend to mark their edits as minor... (basically making the distinction between minor edits and proper ones useless)
19:29:17 <int-e> Galaxtone: so the only advice I'd have is to use the preview feature for testing.
19:29:47 <Galaxtone> unlike that thing of style test #1 -> #5
19:30:33 <int-e> But heh it's still nicer to see many small edits than actual spam so don't worry about it too much.
19:31:21 <Galaxtone> cant help not noticing typos before its too late. :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:
19:33:18 <int-e> yeah I think that happens to everybody
19:41:39 <impomatic> Are there any classic Mac emulator experts here who could expand a .sit file onto a .dsk image for me please?
19:42:04 <impomatic> I've been going round and round in circles for ages and can't figure it.
19:46:56 <zzo38> Did you try 7-Zip? I don't know if it supports those formats, but it does support many formats
19:48:18 <impomatic> Not yet. Trying to get it into a Mac emulator though.
19:48:41 <impomatic> I've just discovered I'm using the wrong version of StuffIt, which might solve the problem :-)
19:48:54 <arseniiv> yeah I think that happens to everybody> totally agree
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20:28:37 <int-e> hah: -- NOTE this function gives impossibly good results - whats wrong?
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23:38:54 <esowiki> [[Talk:Emoji-gramming]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=55198&oldid=55197 * Galaxtone * (+45)
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23:45:09 <zzo38> int-e: What function gives impossibly good results?
23:49:01 <int-e> some code a student wrote for their bachelor project
23:52:00 <int-e> I'm not sure whether it's saying that the code is performing surprisingly well, or that it gives wrong results :P
23:55:43 <int-e> (if you wonder how wrong answers can be "good", well, this is a program tackling an undecidable problem; as such the main performance metric is the number of input problems with a definitive answer... of course that is misleading if those answers turn out to be wrong.)