< 1531094764 388592 :totallymoony!moony@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf NICK :instantmoonys < 1531096516 556304 :Warrigal_!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett JOIN :#esoteric < 1531096707 695110 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1531096850 13574 :j-bot!eldis4@firefly.nu QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1531097246 296583 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1531097520 293392 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1531098558 370868 :mrrmx!mrrmx@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/mrrmx JOIN :#esoteric < 1531099115 473094 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1531099483 194944 :mniip!mniip@freenode/staff/mniip QUIT :Quit: This page is intentionally left blank. < 1531099678 22300 :mniip!mniip@freenode/staff/mniip JOIN :#esoteric < 1531100065 562542 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode JOIN :#esoteric < 1531102496 552755 :mrrmx!mrrmx@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/mrrmx QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1531102934 722963 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-161.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I have two bugs in SQLite that I have reported have been fixed (and one mistake in the documentation I have reported has been fixed). < 1531103687 799983 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1531104005 754765 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1531104574 646007 :instantmoonys!moony@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf NICK :probablymoony < 1531104654 947101 :MDude!~MDude@pa-67-234-83-197.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1531105200 661356 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:aaaa:0:aaaa:0 QUIT :Quit: I seem to have stopped. < 1531105345 953197 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1531105971 328257 :user24!~void@p20030088690A3700186E7049DC4BA41C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1531107180 449059 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1531107702 470573 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1531107869 491487 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1531108444 710241 :XorSwap!~XorSwap@wnpgmb016qw-ppp-103-253.dynamic.bellmts.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1531108686 243546 :user24!~void@p20030088690A3700186E7049DC4BA41C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de QUIT :Quit: Leaving > 1531109030 610032 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Far14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=56530&oldid=56513 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+6) 10wikify a couple things < 1531109145 896612 :trout!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1531109323 291983 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1531110111 336220 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1531110165 501736 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: is mail from esolang working? < 1531110178 545588 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh never mind, it just arrived < 1531110309 100595 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is trying to see if he's receiving mail from other places than agora < 1531110328 98583 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although since the bounces are intermittent, this is not very reliable... < 1531110381 303868 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1531111013 885929 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1531111220 679156 :trout!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1531112187 713365 :XorSwap!~XorSwap@wnpgmb016qw-ppp-103-253.dynamic.bellmts.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1531112926 387184 :trout!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1531113092 779031 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds > 1531113334 529019 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Esolang:Sandbox14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=56531&oldid=55036 5* 03Galaxtone 5* (+7408) 10Putting this here for showing someone and i'll ask the owner if it's ok to replace his whole page. > 1531113355 472778 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Esolang:Sandbox14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=56532&oldid=56531 5* 03Galaxtone 5* (-7408) 10Cleared, I'll use the link to before this edit to show it off. < 1531113405 628948 :S_Gautam!uid286066@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-wthhjpqzcptitakb QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1531113489 113126 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION peeks a sneak < 1531114093 726591 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode JOIN :#esoteric < 1531114801 154426 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1531114962 7865 :trout!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1531116561 41729 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1531116706 529834 :trout!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1531116849 973273 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1531116872 777197 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1531116927 678676 :atslash!~atslash@static.231.107.9.5.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1531117673 278567 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: boo! < 1531117708 215402 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.57 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1531117886 63287 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hint-e. < 1531117941 872063 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tarvek can be a bit reckless... < 1531117978 689224 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, europa cuisine remains weird even outside mechanicsburg. < 1531118111 116640 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the last one is technically for today, but not very spoilery.) < 1531118634 404100 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1531118825 700879 :trout!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1531118878 922877 :Naergon!~Naergon@unaffiliated/naergon JOIN :#esoteric > 1531119138 388015 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Fusion Tag14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=56533&oldid=56488 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+716) 10Three zeros works a bit better < 1531119298 185806 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the
part gets a bit squeezed, but it's there. < 1531119373 456555 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :pondering re-bingeing GG in order to catch up and make another attempt at following it < 1531119387 688330 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :excellent plan < 1531119431 72887 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's so looong < 1531119436 833228 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION occasionally ruins his sleeping plans by binging a few sections. < 1531119532 448154 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think last I read was fairly soon after they got onto the train < 1531119557 623640 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :whch was probably ... a year and a half ago realtime, or so < 1531119560 52329 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe two < 1531119560 573037 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's only about 3 years ago hth < 1531119569 621483 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :or that < 1531119594 898139 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :one of the characters lampshaded how long it had been in-comic, not too long ago < 1531119609 454066 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1531119632 866392 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder how long the plot will be < 1531119645 140766 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: it's an easy way to waste a weekend ;-) < 1531119657 650451 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean "spend" ;-) < 1531119680 916407 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :One weekend might possibly be enough to catch up, but deifnitely not if I want to re-read from the start < 1531119711 165311 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :(which is tempting, since I've forgotten a lot of plot bits) < 1531119722 150554 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder if Archive Binge is still working, and whether it ever supported girl genius < 1531119792 284617 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :dmm's Archive Binge, that is, apparently someone else has started something by the same name < 1531119800 145774 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think when I first binged GG it probably took me a week or two of fairly focused bingeing during a summer break < 1531119857 755495 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess a second readthrough might be somewhat more skimmy since I probably mostly need reminders of the plot < 1531120046 830365 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :when i first started it was still divided into two "classes", because they didn't put all the old pre-web comics on the web immediately < 1531120132 336524 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so there were in effect first one binge for the oldest part, then several months (years) of individual posts, until one glorious day when the old class caught up to the new one. < 1531120183 362537 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's see.. 2350 strips... at 1min/strip (which is low) is about 40h... a weekend may not be enough anymore ;-) < 1531120215 828978 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1531120248 333194 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, hrm I forgot how they handled the transition < 1531120256 608511 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the words of moloch von zinzer, "...how is _possible_ that this could surprise _any_ of you people?" < 1531120261 236560 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(from GG 101 to GG) < 1531120275 260003 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :aka through a month of server crashes and quota run-outs < 1531120293 531309 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20121126 < 1531120332 246836 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :aka "badly, but they got better" < 1531120339 624225 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I thought that the archive *now* just has 3 stips a week since 20021104 < 1531120346 114872 :probablymoony!moony@unaffiliated/moonythedwarf NICK :extremelymoony < 1531120390 169018 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :time machines are such useful devices < 1531120438 775160 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm interesting < 1531120490 468112 :trout!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric > 1531120517 413127 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Far14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=56534 5* 03Plokmijnuhby 5* (+266) 10Created page with "== Stacks == There are several commands which refer to "the stack". I assume this is Stack0, but if so I can't see any way to change Stack1. Is there a way to change which sta..." < 1531120703 24081 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1531120977 706806 :atslash!~atslash@static.231.107.9.5.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1531121254 721346 :atslash!~atslash@static.231.107.9.5.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1531121279 713573 :atslash!~atslash@static.231.107.9.5.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1531121376 326408 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1531122029 661628 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@natx-145.kulnet.kuleuven.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1531122406 392624 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1531122569 728867 :trout!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1531124254 241906 :trout!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1531124454 88117 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1531124751 832147 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@2a02:c7d:485a:3300:fb8b:fb15:c1d3:a33a JOIN :#esoteric < 1531124752 86740 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@2a02:c7d:485a:3300:fb8b:fb15:c1d3:a33a QUIT :Changing host < 1531124752 103318 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1531126177 135139 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1531126341 276797 :trout!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1531127263 620430 :aloril__!~aloril@80.246.146.6 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1531127598 596566 :aloril__!~aloril@80.246.146.6 JOIN :#esoteric < 1531128181 956603 :trout!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1531128290 383833 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1531128968 565906 :aloril__!~aloril@80.246.146.6 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1531129435 287026 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 JOIN :#esoteric < 1531129481 357864 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: nice! which two (bugs in SQLite)? I also have two, the int-float comparison bug, and some statement parser thing. < 1531129568 866002 :aloril__!~aloril@80.246.146.6 JOIN :#esoteric < 1531130063 290803 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1531130211 270069 :trout!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1531130337 674147 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1531130379 947162 :oerjan!oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Later < 1531130787 683126 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@natx-145.kulnet.kuleuven.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1531131008 332089 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.245.201.dynamic.ufanet.ru JOIN :#esoteric < 1531131340 831157 :SopaXorzTaker!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker JOIN :#esoteric < 1531131985 350429 :trout!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1531132140 338445 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds > 1531132853 361368 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Far14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=56535&oldid=56534 5* 03Ais523 5* (+314) 10a guess as to what this means < 1531133947 848458 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1531134111 341600 :trout!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1531134857 917953 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@natx-145.kulnet.kuleuven.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1531135216 542507 :test!b2e91c60@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.233.28.96 JOIN :#esoteric < 1531135223 442107 :test!b2e91c60@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.233.28.96 QUIT :Client Quit < 1531135849 462998 :trout!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1531136069 845116 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1531137414 252947 :MDude!~MDude@pa-67-234-83-197.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1531137845 549834 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1531137990 370968 :trout!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1531139743 814678 :trout!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1531139931 334750 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds > 1531140013 68159 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Nobody14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=56536&oldid=54921 5* 03Nobody 5* (+33) 10 < 1531140681 877997 :S_Gautam!uid286066@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ygvawqtvafsgevvc JOIN :#esoteric > 1531141229 835418 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Surtic14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=56537&oldid=56433 5* 03Digital Hunter 5* (+48) 10/* Other built-in functions */ < 1531141233 770005 :doesthiswork!~Adium@207.55.82.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1531141383 702218 :mniip!mniip@freenode/staff/mniip QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1531141470 215830 :mniip!mniip@freenode/staff/mniip JOIN :#esoteric < 1531141494 399336 :mniip!mniip@freenode/staff/mniip QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1531141563 924369 :mniip!mniip@freenode/staff/mniip JOIN :#esoteric < 1531141661 235987 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1531141847 795287 :trout!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1531141981 305377 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1531143163 581993 :SopaXorzTaker!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1531143655 539575 :trout!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1531143765 360172 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1531144145 388113 :impomatic!~digital_w@host86-190-54-130.range86-190.btcentralplus.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1531145496 688944 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1531145735 680151 :trout!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1531147431 706951 :trout!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1531147603 306688 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1531149071 403751 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18b98dd9.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1531149185 399152 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18b98dd9.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1531149264 137539 :wob_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1531149283 820880 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1531149479 720581 :trout!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1531150290 332536 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.245.201.dynamic.ufanet.ru QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1531151121 899169 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@natx-145.kulnet.kuleuven.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1531151209 47161 :trout!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1531151421 310096 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds > 1531152572 298490 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Spoon14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=56538&oldid=45837 5* 03SnoringFrog 5* (+59) 10/* External resources */ < 1531153065 565549 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1531153103 637525 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1531153301 776619 :trout!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1531154954 941792 :trout!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1531155084 62394 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-161.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: One is a problem with functions using sqlite3_set_auxdata() in triggers, the other one is if an authorizer callback denies some steps of creating a WITHOUT ROWID table it will segfault. < 1531155171 298756 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1531156182 288925 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode JOIN :#esoteric < 1531156626 304085 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-dhqxaekqpwvduauq QUIT :Excess Flood < 1531156714 174955 :Lord_of_Life!Elite12246@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-tjahonlbpyhsnqml JOIN :#esoteric < 1531156736 296572 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1531156763 575150 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, the newly updated Magic Tournament Rules are now actually clear enough to work out what happens if someone sets up a Turing Machine < 1531156782 171872 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happens is: you have to play it out (unless someone concedes) up until it repeats a previous state < 1531156802 853916 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think this overrides the bit of the comprehensive rules which makes the game a draw if it has no way to end, though < 1531156903 920864 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1531157031 585248 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1531157036 713985 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1531157038 289757 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 NICK :ais523 < 1531157051 438608 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[18:22] imode: you can't encode arbitrary graphs in eodermdrome, only ones with 26 vertices or less; to encode a graph of that size, you just come up with an arbitrary path that goes through every point (this is easy as you can retrace your steps if necessary), letter every point, and write out the letters in order < 1531157052 983522 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[18:23] 104.4b If a game that’s not using the limited range of influence option (including a two-player game) somehow enters a “loop” of mandatory actions, repeating a sequence of events with no way to stop, the game is a draw. Loops that contain an optional action don’t result in a draw. < 1531157057 308613 :trout!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1531157090 514942 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, arguably 104.4b doesn't cause a draw in the case of a nontrivial infinite loop either < 1531157173 115627 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the other hand, the whole point of this construction is that there are no actions in the loop < 1531157179 869393 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just triggered abilities triggering each other in a chain < 1531157192 865387 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this might lead to problems related to, say, the three Oblivion Ring loop, which also contains no actions < 1531157388 430599 :SopaXorzTaker!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker JOIN :#esoteric < 1531157415 457645 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Quit: sorry for my connection < 1531157429 5253 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1531157824 293427 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@2a02:c7d:485a:3300:fb8b:fb15:c1d3:a33a JOIN :#esoteric < 1531157824 559890 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@2a02:c7d:485a:3300:fb8b:fb15:c1d3:a33a QUIT :Changing host < 1531157824 576295 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1531157842 722029 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: thanks for the info! I guess I'm wondering if there's a possibility using a larger (possibly infinite) alphabet. < 1531157876 699210 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the format generalises easily enough < 1531157881 859634 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's not very convenient to work with < 1531157942 445085 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :starting to notice that. graph rewriting isn't as elegant as I thought. < 1531157999 776988 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's more usable if you have labelled nodes < 1531158022 892153 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :eodermdrome is basically a tarpitisation that unlabels them, meaning that you have to attach little subgraphs to the nodes to tell them apart < 1531158115 222760 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :that honestly sounds cool, because you can craft labels by attaching differently shaped subgraphs to nodes. < 1531158134 24415 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I guess it doesn't.. really buy you any expressiveness. < 1531158173 392217 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, it's the tarpit approach < 1531158176 774309 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :simplicity over usability < 1531158204 610157 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :the reason I asked you about encoding arbitrary graphs was that I'm trying to take the approach of simplicity first, usability later. < 1531158250 276841 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'd be nice to develop a graph-rewriting language with something like kolmogorov machines as a basis, and compile larger, more complex rules down to it. < 1531158283 921674 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I can't find any other methods that don't use variable binding. < 1531158348 616775 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the simplest way to make it somewhat usable would be eodermdrome except that the nodes remember which letter they have < 1531158366 433580 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and probably using identifiers rather than letters so you have an infinite supply < 1531158411 290186 :MDude!~MDude@pa-67-234-83-197.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1531158427 351479 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what I was thinking initially. I haven't looked into how to do/translate useful algorithms (like binary incrementation, or whatever the hell I've been doing with SRSs) over to eodermdrome yet. < 1531158519 203888 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :wrapping my head around it hasn't been that fruitful. yet. :P < 1531158523 965684 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd probably want to add explicit syntax for wildcards in the patterns, too, to make things more readable < 1531158538 273773 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rather than just "anything that exists on both sides is a wildcard" < 1531158790 685918 :trout!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1531158806 353068 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the concept is that every vertex in the graph is uniquely addressable from every other vertex. rewriting is always local to the first node specified in a rule, so you take a path through the graph. < 1531158841 285331 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :you then replace the matched path with the new one from the rule set, adding or removing nodes as needed. < 1531158883 709008 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a neat way of handling cycle creation. < 1531158956 770099 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1531158957 905489 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if I were to go with identifiers/words, I wonder what constructing something like a labeled tree would look like. < 1531159060 634961 :MDude!~MDude@pa-67-234-83-197.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1531159062 742464 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Quit: quit < 1531159748 891609 :mrrmx!mrrmx@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/mrrmx JOIN :#esoteric < 1531160430 645372 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :I find it weird that pointer machines are so obscure. < 1531160688 252676 :wob_jonas!b03f1945@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.25.69 JOIN :#esoteric < 1531160703 550849 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1531160841 273795 :trout!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1531161087 881630 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-161.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Even so I would think that unless you use subgames it doesn't make it more than Turing-complete (although it still makes it impossible to actually implement). Since it will end in a "implicit draw" even without such a rule (although omitting the rule would mean that a subgame getting in a infinite loop would end the main game in such a "implicit draw" instead of the subgame). < 1531161104 84350 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-161.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do not keep track of the Magic Tournament rules. < 1531161122 754566 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-161.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I do keep track of the game rules whenever they change, though.) < 1531161170 195204 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-161.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The game would go on forever if there is no rule to stop it, and because of that, it ends in a "implicit draw", that it goes on forever, I should think > 1531161331 965357 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Esolang:Sandbox14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=56539&oldid=56532 5* 03Galaxtone 5* (+9911) 10Showing creator of surtic for review. < 1531161342 523625 :wob_jonas!b03f1945@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.25.69 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh darn, I missed ais again > 1531161351 911581 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Esolang:Sandbox14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=56540&oldid=56539 5* 03Galaxtone 5* (-9911) 10Clearing, using edit link to old page to show it. < 1531161425 192826 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-161.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: I told you now what bugs I reported have been fixed in SQLite, as you have asked > 1531161431 200072 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07TLOWScript14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=56541&oldid=54417 5* 03ZM 5* (+41) 10Update links < 1531161447 273359 :wob_jonas!b03f1945@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.25.69 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: right, see it in the log < 1531161549 642244 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-161.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here is the reply to my report (the reply also includes my original message): https://www.mail-archive.com/sqlite-users@mailinglists.sqlite.org/msg111043.html < 1531161591 311039 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`smlit 471 < 1531161592 282211 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/srv/hackeso-code/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: smlit: not found < 1531161595 406925 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`smlist 471 < 1531161596 234127 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :smlist 471: shachaf monqy elliott mnoqy Cale > 1531161854 796609 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Surtic14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=56542&oldid=56537 5* 03Digital Hunter 5* (-23) 10/* Loops & Blocks */ < 1531162488 293524 :erkin!~erkin@unaffiliated/erkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1531162572 296517 :trout!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric > 1531162687 641271 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Surtic14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=56543&oldid=56528 5* 03Galaxtone 5* (-199) 10Deleted, because I wanted to. < 1531162778 691162 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1531164078 995816 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1531164274 965513 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1531164543 292454 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1531164648 504519 :SopaXorzTaker!~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1531164741 345208 :trout!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds > 1531164748 528999 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[0799 bottles of beer14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=56544&oldid=54598 5* 03Galaxtone 5* (+9) 10Looked like it was suppose to be one whole code block. < 1531165114 412028 :wob_jonas!b03f1945@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.25.69 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1531165191 286288 :wob_jonas!b03f1945@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.25.69 JOIN :#esoteric < 1531165204 989251 :wob_jonas!b03f1945@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.25.69 QUIT :Client Quit < 1531165504 808157 :impomatic!~digital_w@host86-137-197-211.range86-137.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric > 1531165505 958518 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 delete10 02 5* 03Ais523 5* 10deleted "[[02Talk:Surtic10]]": Author request: all revisions were by [[User:Galaxtone]] < 1531165762 320996 :impomatic!~digital_w@host86-137-197-211.range86-137.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmmm... no page for Funge Wars on the wiki. > 1531165776 379333 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Fusion Tag14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=56545&oldid=56533 5* 03Ais523 5* (+773) 10the main section doesn't work in that example because it's not large enough to fit a reference to anything but the bootstrap < 1531166037 935523 :impomatic!~digital_w@host86-137-197-211.range86-137.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :FungeWars or Fungewars or BefungeWars? https://sourceforge.net/projects/fungewars/?source=typ_redirect https://github.com/electrodude/fungewars http://www.phlamethrower.co.uk/befunge/befwars.php < 1531166385 630983 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A46C74.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1531166500 637134 :trout!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1531166656 316759 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1531168041 913795 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-jfsgjnkvzhlvgune QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1531168077 984734 :heroux_!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-jusvjcqkmdfsxuyb QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1531168374 679035 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1531168521 282017 :trout!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1531169006 627223 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-zyrczuycfqstfafq JOIN :#esoteric < 1531169014 422881 :heroux_!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-ugstcqxkgpdmrjez JOIN :#esoteric > 1531170015 650104 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Fungewars14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=56546 5* 03Impomatic 5* (+509) 10Create page < 1531170323 107616 :trout!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1531170484 303007 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds > 1531171137 967189 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Brainfuck14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=56547&oldid=56453 5* 03Impomatic 5* (+110) 10/* External resources */ link to Mutato < 1531171189 883634 :Naergon!~Naergon@unaffiliated/naergon QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds > 1531171208 77344 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Brainfuck14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=56548&oldid=56547 5* 03Impomatic 5* (+0) 10/* External resources */ moved link to correct section < 1531171327 769113 :impomatic!~digital_w@host86-137-197-211.range86-137.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The programming language used by Tierra probably meets the definition of an esoteric programming language - " a computer programming language designed to experiment with weird ideas" < 1531172203 225884 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-161.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What programming language is that? < 1531172212 215596 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1531172361 278794 :trout!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1531172446 464143 :impomatic!~digital_w@host86-137-197-211.range86-137.btcentralplus.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38 there's a description of it here http://korsu.mbnet.fi/tierra.html < 1531172589 639551 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A46C74.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1531172952 635238 :Phantom___Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1531173172 628189 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1531173969 89460 :LKoen!~LKoen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: “It’s only logical. First you learn to talk, then you learn to think. Too bad it’s not the other way round.” < 1531174034 470053 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.236.157.electronicbox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1531174105 202078 :trout!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1531174283 681877 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1531176004 688978 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1531176171 263837 :trout!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1531176276 834489 :boily!~alexandre@cable-192.222.236.157.electronicbox.net QUIT :Quit: AFTER CHICKEN < 1531176864 854596 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :idea: predicated rules for SRS. "if all these patterns are present in the string, apply this rule." < 1531177094 983784 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric : ... <::> -> < 1531177921 433498 :trout!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1531178066 787929 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1531178472 256532 :hakatashi!~hakatashi@104.131.49.125 JOIN :#esoteric < 1531178715 315370 :hakatashi1!~hakatashi@104.131.49.125 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1531179681 912408 :XorSwap!~XorSwap@wnpgmb016qw-ppp-103-253.dynamic.bellmts.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1531179868 716931 :variable!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1531180041 289623 :trout!~variable@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1531180111 890392 :Phantom___Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer > 1531180657 42176 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Language14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=56549&oldid=56481 5* 03HereToAnnoy 5* (+720) 10Registers made semi-usable and string manipulation