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part gets a bit squeezed, but it's there. 06:56:13 pondering re-bingeing GG in order to catch up and make another attempt at following it 06:56:27 excellent plan 06:57:11 but it's so looong 06:57:16 * oerjan occasionally ruins his sleeping plans by binging a few sections. 06:58:52 I think last I read was fairly soon after they got onto the train 06:59:17 whch was probably ... a year and a half ago realtime, or so 06:59:20 maybe two 06:59:20 that's only about 3 years ago hth 06:59:29 or that 06:59:54 one of the characters lampshaded how long it had been in-comic, not too long ago 07:00:09 heh 07:00:32 I wonder how long the plot will be 07:00:45 FireFly: it's an easy way to waste a weekend ;-) 07:00:57 I mean "spend" ;-) 07:01:20 One weekend might possibly be enough to catch up, but deifnitely not if I want to re-read from the start 07:01:51 (which is tempting, since I've forgotten a lot of plot bits) 07:02:02 i wonder if Archive Binge is still working, and whether it ever supported girl genius 07:03:12 dmm's Archive Binge, that is, apparently someone else has started something by the same name 07:03:20 I think when I first binged GG it probably took me a week or two of fairly focused bingeing during a summer break 07:04:17 I guess a second readthrough might be somewhat more skimmy since I probably mostly need reminders of the plot 07:07:26 when i first started it was still divided into two "classes", because they didn't put all the old pre-web comics on the web immediately 07:08:52 so there were in effect first one binge for the oldest part, then several months (years) of individual posts, until one glorious day when the old class caught up to the new one. 07:09:43 let's see.. 2350 strips... at 1min/strip (which is low) is about 40h... a weekend may not be enough anymore ;-) 07:10:15 oh 07:10:48 right, hrm I forgot how they handled the transition 07:10:56 in the words of moloch von zinzer, "...how is _possible_ that this could surprise _any_ of you people?" 07:11:01 (from GG 101 to GG) 07:11:15 aka through a month of server crashes and quota run-outs 07:11:33 http://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20121126 07:12:12 aka "badly, but they got better" 07:12:19 but I thought that the archive *now* just has 3 stips a week since 20021104 07:12:26 -!- probablymoony has changed nick to extremelymoony. 07:13:10 time machines are such useful devices 07:13:58 hm interesting 07:14:50 -!- trout has joined. 07:15:17 [[Talk:Far]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=56534 * Plokmijnuhby * (+266) Created page with "== Stacks == There are several commands which refer to "the stack". I assume this is Stack0, but if so I can't see any way to change Stack1. Is there a way to change which sta..." 07:18:23 -!- variable has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 07:22:57 -!- atslash has joined. 07:27:34 -!- atslash has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 07:27:59 -!- atslash has joined. 07:29:36 -!- tromp has joined. 07:40:29 -!- AnotherTest has joined. 07:46:46 -!- variable has joined. 07:49:29 -!- trout has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 08:17:34 -!- trout has joined. 08:20:54 -!- variable has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 08:25:51 -!- Phantom_Hoover has joined. 08:25:52 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Changing host). 08:25:52 -!- Phantom_Hoover has joined. 08:49:37 -!- variable has joined. 08:52:21 -!- trout has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 09:07:43 -!- aloril__ has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds). 09:13:18 -!- aloril__ has joined. 09:23:01 -!- trout has joined. 09:24:50 -!- variable has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 09:36:08 -!- aloril__ has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds). 09:43:55 -!- wob_jonas has joined. 09:44:41 zzo38: nice! which two (bugs in SQLite)? I also have two, the int-float comparison bug, and some statement parser thing. 09:46:08 -!- aloril__ has joined. 09:54:23 -!- variable has joined. 09:56:51 -!- trout has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 09:58:57 -!- imode has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 09:59:39 -!- oerjan has quit (Quit: Later). 10:06:27 -!- AnotherTest has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 10:10:08 -!- arseniiv has joined. 10:15:40 -!- SopaXorzTaker has joined. 10:26:25 -!- trout has joined. 10:29:00 -!- variable has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 10:40:53 [[Talk:Far]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=56535&oldid=56534 * Ais523 * (+314) a guess as to what this means 10:59:07 -!- variable has joined. 11:01:51 -!- trout has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 11:14:17 -!- AnotherTest has joined. 11:20:16 -!- test has joined. 11:20:23 -!- test has quit (Client Quit). 11:30:49 -!- trout has joined. 11:34:29 -!- variable has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds). 11:56:54 -!- MDude has joined. 12:04:05 -!- variable has joined. 12:06:30 -!- trout has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 12:35:43 -!- trout has joined. 12:38:51 -!- variable has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 12:40:13 [[User:Nobody]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=56536&oldid=54921 * Nobody * (+33) 12:51:21 -!- S_Gautam has joined. 13:00:29 [[Surtic]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=56537&oldid=56433 * Digital Hunter * (+48) /* Other built-in functions */ 13:00:33 -!- doesthiswork has joined. 13:03:03 -!- mniip has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 13:04:30 -!- mniip has joined. 13:04:54 -!- mniip has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 13:06:03 -!- mniip has joined. 13:07:41 -!- variable has joined. 13:10:47 -!- trout has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds). 13:13:01 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 13:32:43 -!- SopaXorzTaker has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 13:40:55 -!- trout has joined. 13:42:45 -!- variable has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 13:49:05 -!- impomatic has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 14:11:36 -!- variable has joined. 14:15:35 -!- trout has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 14:43:51 -!- trout has joined. 14:46:43 -!- variable has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds). 15:11:11 -!- Sgeo_ has joined. 15:13:05 -!- Sgeo__ has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 15:14:24 -!- wob_jonas has quit (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client). 15:14:43 -!- variable has joined. 15:17:59 -!- trout has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 15:31:30 -!- arseniiv has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 15:45:21 -!- AnotherTest has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 15:46:49 -!- trout has joined. 15:50:21 -!- variable has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 16:09:32 [[Spoon]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=56538&oldid=45837 * SnoringFrog * (+59) /* External resources */ 16:17:45 -!- LKoen has joined. 16:18:23 -!- variable has joined. 16:21:41 -!- trout has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 16:49:14 -!- trout has joined. 16:51:24 wob_jonas: One is a problem with functions using sqlite3_set_auxdata() in triggers, the other one is if an authorizer callback denies some steps of creating a WITHOUT ROWID table it will segfault. 16:52:51 -!- variable has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 17:09:42 -!- imode has joined. 17:17:06 -!- Lord_of_Life has quit (Excess Flood). 17:18:34 -!- Lord_of_Life has joined. 17:18:56 -!- ais523 has joined. 17:19:23 huh, the newly updated Magic Tournament Rules are now actually clear enough to work out what happens if someone sets up a Turing Machine 17:19:42 what happens is: you have to play it out (unless someone concedes) up until it repeats a previous state 17:20:02 I don't think this overrides the bit of the comprehensive rules which makes the game a draw if it has no way to end, though 17:21:43 -!- variable has joined. 17:23:51 -!- callforjudgement has joined. 17:23:56 -!- ais523 has quit (Disconnected by services). 17:23:58 -!- callforjudgement has changed nick to ais523. 17:24:11 [18:22] imode: you can't encode arbitrary graphs in eodermdrome, only ones with 26 vertices or less; to encode a graph of that size, you just come up with an arbitrary path that goes through every point (this is easy as you can retrace your steps if necessary), letter every point, and write out the letters in order 17:24:12 [18:23] 104.4b If a game that’s not using the limited range of influence option (including a two-player game) somehow enters a “loop” of mandatory actions, repeating a sequence of events with no way to stop, the game is a draw. Loops that contain an optional action don’t result in a draw. 17:24:17 -!- trout has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds). 17:24:50 hmm, arguably 104.4b doesn't cause a draw in the case of a nontrivial infinite loop either 17:26:13 on the other hand, the whole point of this construction is that there are no actions in the loop 17:26:19 it's just triggered abilities triggering each other in a chain 17:26:32 this might lead to problems related to, say, the three Oblivion Ring loop, which also contains no actions 17:29:48 -!- SopaXorzTaker has joined. 17:30:15 -!- ais523 has quit (Quit: sorry for my connection). 17:30:29 -!- ais523 has joined. 17:37:04 -!- Phantom_Hoover has joined. 17:37:04 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Changing host). 17:37:04 -!- Phantom_Hoover has joined. 17:37:22 ais523: thanks for the info! I guess I'm wondering if there's a possibility using a larger (possibly infinite) alphabet. 17:37:56 the format generalises easily enough 17:38:01 but it's not very convenient to work with 17:39:02 starting to notice that. graph rewriting isn't as elegant as I thought. 17:39:59 it's more usable if you have labelled nodes 17:40:22 eodermdrome is basically a tarpitisation that unlabels them, meaning that you have to attach little subgraphs to the nodes to tell them apart 17:41:55 that honestly sounds cool, because you can craft labels by attaching differently shaped subgraphs to nodes. 17:42:14 but I guess it doesn't.. really buy you any expressiveness. 17:42:53 right, it's the tarpit approach 17:42:56 simplicity over usability 17:43:24 the reason I asked you about encoding arbitrary graphs was that I'm trying to take the approach of simplicity first, usability later. 17:44:10 it'd be nice to develop a graph-rewriting language with something like kolmogorov machines as a basis, and compile larger, more complex rules down to it. 17:44:43 but I can't find any other methods that don't use variable binding. 17:45:48 I think the simplest way to make it somewhat usable would be eodermdrome except that the nodes remember which letter they have 17:46:06 and probably using identifiers rather than letters so you have an infinite supply 17:46:51 -!- MDude has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 17:47:07 that's what I was thinking initially. I haven't looked into how to do/translate useful algorithms (like binary incrementation, or whatever the hell I've been doing with SRSs) over to eodermdrome yet. 17:48:39 wrapping my head around it hasn't been that fruitful. yet. :P 17:48:43 you'd probably want to add explicit syntax for wildcards in the patterns, too, to make things more readable 17:48:58 rather than just "anything that exists on both sides is a wildcard" 17:53:10 -!- trout has joined. 17:53:26 so the concept is that every vertex in the graph is uniquely addressable from every other vertex. rewriting is always local to the first node specified in a rule, so you take a path through the graph. 17:54:01 you then replace the matched path with the new one from the rule set, adding or removing nodes as needed. 17:54:43 that's a neat way of handling cycle creation. 17:55:56 -!- variable has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 17:55:57 but if I were to go with identifiers/words, I wonder what constructing something like a labeled tree would look like. 17:57:40 -!- MDude has joined. 17:57:42 -!- ais523 has quit (Quit: quit). 18:09:08 -!- mrrmx has joined. 18:20:30 I find it weird that pointer machines are so obscure. 18:24:48 -!- wob_jonas has joined. 18:25:03 -!- variable has joined. 18:27:21 -!- trout has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 18:31:27 ais523: Even so I would think that unless you use subgames it doesn't make it more than Turing-complete (although it still makes it impossible to actually implement). Since it will end in a "implicit draw" even without such a rule (although omitting the rule would mean that a subgame getting in a infinite loop would end the main game in such a "implicit draw" instead of the subgame). 18:31:44 I do not keep track of the Magic Tournament rules. 18:32:02 (I do keep track of the game rules whenever they change, though.) 18:32:50 The game would go on forever if there is no rule to stop it, and because of that, it ends in a "implicit draw", that it goes on forever, I should think 18:35:31 [[Esolang:Sandbox]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=56539&oldid=56532 * Galaxtone * (+9911) Showing creator of surtic for review. 18:35:42 oh darn, I missed ais again 18:35:51 [[Esolang:Sandbox]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=56540&oldid=56539 * Galaxtone * (-9911) Clearing, using edit link to old page to show it. 18:37:05 wob_jonas: I told you now what bugs I reported have been fixed in SQLite, as you have asked 18:37:11 [[TLOWScript]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=56541&oldid=54417 * ZM * (+41) Update links 18:37:27 zzo38: right, see it in the log 18:39:09 Here is the reply to my report (the reply also includes my original message): https://www.mail-archive.com/sqlite-users@mailinglists.sqlite.org/msg111043.html 18:39:51 `smlit 471 18:39:52 ​/srv/hackeso-code/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: smlit: not found 18:39:55 `smlist 471 18:39:56 smlist 471: shachaf monqy elliott mnoqy Cale 18:44:14 [[Surtic]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=56542&oldid=56537 * Digital Hunter * (-23) /* Loops & Blocks */ 18:54:48 -!- erkin has joined. 18:56:12 -!- trout has joined. 18:58:07 [[Talk:Surtic]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=56543&oldid=56528 * Galaxtone * (-199) Deleted, because I wanted to. 18:59:38 -!- variable has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 19:21:18 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 19:24:34 -!- Phantom__Hoover has joined. 19:29:03 -!- variable has joined. 19:30:48 -!- SopaXorzTaker has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 19:32:21 -!- trout has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 19:32:28 [[99 bottles of beer]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=56544&oldid=54598 * Galaxtone * (+9) Looked like it was suppose to be one whole code block. 19:38:34 -!- wob_jonas has quit (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client). 19:39:51 -!- wob_jonas has joined. 19:40:04 -!- wob_jonas has quit (Client Quit). 19:45:04 -!- impomatic has joined. 19:45:05 [[Special:Log/delete]] delete * Ais523 * deleted "[[Talk:Surtic]]": Author request: all revisions were by [[User:Galaxtone]] 19:49:22 Hmmm... no page for Funge Wars on the wiki. 19:49:36 [[Talk:Fusion Tag]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=56545&oldid=56533 * Ais523 * (+773) the main section doesn't work in that example because it's not large enough to fit a reference to anything but the bootstrap 19:53:57 FungeWars or Fungewars or BefungeWars? https://sourceforge.net/projects/fungewars/?source=typ_redirect https://github.com/electrodude/fungewars http://www.phlamethrower.co.uk/befunge/befwars.php 19:59:45 -!- AnotherTest has joined. 20:01:40 -!- trout has joined. 20:04:16 -!- variable has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds). 20:27:21 -!- heroux has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 20:27:57 -!- heroux_ has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 20:32:54 -!- variable has joined. 20:35:21 -!- trout has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 20:43:26 -!- heroux has joined. 20:43:34 -!- heroux_ has joined. 21:00:15 [[Fungewars]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=56546 * Impomatic * (+509) Create page 21:05:23 -!- trout has joined. 21:08:04 -!- variable has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds). 21:18:57 [[Brainfuck]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=56547&oldid=56453 * Impomatic * (+110) /* External resources */ link to Mutato 21:19:49 -!- Naergon has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 21:20:08 [[Brainfuck]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=56548&oldid=56547 * Impomatic * (+0) /* External resources */ moved link to correct section 21:22:07 The programming language used by Tierra probably meets the definition of an esoteric programming language - " a computer programming language designed to experiment with weird ideas" 21:36:43 What programming language is that? 21:36:52 -!- variable has joined. 21:39:21 -!- trout has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 21:40:46 zzo38 there's a description of it here http://korsu.mbnet.fi/tierra.html 21:43:09 -!- AnotherTest has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds). 21:49:12 -!- Phantom___Hoover has joined. 21:52:52 -!- Phantom__Hoover has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 22:06:09 -!- LKoen has quit (Quit: “It’s only logical. First you learn to talk, then you learn to think. Too bad it’s not the other way round.”). 22:07:14 -!- boily has joined. 22:08:25 -!- trout has joined. 22:11:23 -!- variable has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 22:40:04 -!- variable has joined. 22:42:51 -!- trout has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 22:44:36 -!- boily has quit (Quit: AFTER CHICKEN). 22:54:24 idea: predicated rules for SRS. "if all these patterns are present in the string, apply this rule." 22:58:14 ... <::> -> 23:12:01 -!- trout has joined. 23:14:26 -!- variable has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 23:21:12 -!- hakatashi has joined. 23:25:15 -!- hakatashi1 has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 23:41:21 -!- XorSwap has joined. 23:44:28 -!- variable has joined. 23:47:21 -!- trout has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 23:48:31 -!- Phantom___Hoover has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 23:57:37 [[User:Language]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=56549&oldid=56481 * HereToAnnoy * (+720) Registers made semi-usable and string manipulation