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< 1536977303 905770 :wob_jonas!b03f184f@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.79 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: re succ and pred on lists, I don't know, I haven't tested the rules, so there can easily be bugs in them
< 1536977348 723227 :wob_jonas!b03f184f@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.79 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: if they're buggy, you might have to re-derive them from the definitions of list representation, and perhaps compare that definition to the one given in David's article,
< 1536977373 781529 :wob_jonas!b03f184f@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.79 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but note that Amicus's list repr is very different from (0)'s pair repr
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< 1536978052 727229 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-161.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Furthermore, the definition that I wrote will need also the other case in case e=0.
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< 1536984717 838590 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-161.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mentioned in talk page that <0:<e:m>>+1 = <1:<e-1:m>> and I think also <0:<0:<e:m>>>+1 = <2:<e-1:m>> and so on, they tell you how many zero at first. This is working even if you do not have any zero at first, so that <e:m>+1 = <0:<e-1:m>> (which is in fact what the fourth rule says), I think?
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< 1536984829 494516 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-161.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does anyone on here other than wob_jonas able to comment?
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< 1536991543 112836 :wob_jonas!b03f194d@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.25.77 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I don't know. but now I'm also concerned by [[Amycus#Writing_Amycus_programs]], some of which seems wrong
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< 1537037708 772772 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-161.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :wob_jonas: I did not check the part about writing Amycus programs
< 1537037774 32904 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-161.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you read what I wrote on the talk page?
< 1537037800 871112 :wob_jonas!b03f1883@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.131 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: yes. it is quite possible that my laws for pred and succ are wrong.
< 1537038147 148161 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-161.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that if the list start with any amount of zero (including zero) then it is <n:<e-1:m>> where n tells how many zero at first. If all of them are zero then it is <n:0>. So first two rules is OK, and fourth rule is also OK, but third rule is no good. This my idea is therefore making the description of one rule (which may be expanded to make multiple rules that can be recursive, because the number "n" also needs to be converted into a list).
< 1537038158 682091 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-161.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then for pred you can do other way around.
< 1537040155 556449 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-161.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am now trying to make it in Haskell
< 1537040381 236205 :wob_jonas!b03f1883@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.131 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I found an M:tG card under my bed, which must have been hiding there for more than a month.  And it was an Elephant too, not some sneaky blue creature.
< 1537040620 581106 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-161.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK. What card specifically?
< 1537040713 692865 :wob_jonas!b03f1883@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.131 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Noble Elephant (Mirage)
< 1537040750 658100 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-161.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK
< 1537041429 615625 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-161.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here is the proper rules for incrementing lists in Amycus (I think):  https://arin.ga/bSdNQA
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< 1537041646 373743 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-161.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does it looks like good to you? The rules for pred are same, but rules for succ is a bit difference.
< 1537042222 386429 :wob_jonas!b03f1883@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.131 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: ok
> 1537042385 661370 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Amycus14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=57635&oldid=57612 5* 03Zzo38 5* (-26) 10Corrected rules for incrementing lists
< 1537042407 149796 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-161.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I fixed the [[Amycus]] article now; you can look
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> 1537046280 263974 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Technologic14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=57636 5* 03JWinslow23 5* (+9035) 10Created page with "'''Technologic''' is a programming language created in [[:Category:2018|2018]] in which all keywords are lyrics to the Daft Punk song "Technologic".  == Design Philosophy ==..."
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> 1537047283 656201 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Special:Log/move14]]4 move10 02 5* 03B jonas 5*  10moved [[02The language Amycus was supposed to be10]] to [[Amicus]]: figured out a good name David's language, so I'm renaming it. hope it's not too late.
> 1537047495 924230 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Hyperamycus14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=57639&oldid=57614 5* 03B jonas 5* (-145) 10renamed language
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< 1537049337 578828 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-161.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there any need to explain the view pattern?
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< 1537050281 143033 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are there any languages on the wiki with names like "User:Oerjan" or "Special: Search"?
< 1537050407 180240 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-47-161.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think someone once named a language after their own user page
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> 1537054076 832139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Hyperamycus14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=57646&oldid=57639 5* 03B jonas 5* (+250) 10Rule 7
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< 1537055207 925025 :wob_jonas!b03f1883@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.63.24.131 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`"
< 1537055208 789160 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :76) <Gregor> I don't know that I've ever heard apocalypi described in terms of depth ... \ 560) <Phantom__Hoover> Also you steal Berwick from us and then say you don't want it?  <Ngevd> You stole it from us first!
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