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04:21:54 <paul2520> I haven't done this in a while, but I'm trying to zsync the wiki. I'm getting an error:
04:21:56 <paul2520> failed to retrieve from https://esolangs.org/dump/esolang.xml.gz
04:21:58 <paul2520> Aborting, download available in esolang.xml.part
04:22:09 <paul2520> Any idea? I've tried thrice, it fails ~58% complete.
04:22:21 <paul2520> Anyway, heading to sleep but I'm on screen. Will check back tomorrow.
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07:57:33 <esowiki> [[Brainfoctal]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=58286&oldid=58238 * Salpynx * (+2310) hopefully more informative description
08:04:34 <esowiki> [[Brainfoctal]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=58287&oldid=58286 * Salpynx * (+2485) /* Example Hello World generation */
08:07:07 <esowiki> [[Brainfoctal]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=58288&oldid=58287 * Salpynx * (+2) /* Example Hello World generation */
08:21:07 <esowiki> [[Brainfoctal]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=58289&oldid=58288 * Salpynx * (-37) /* Example Hello World generation */ fix code and tidy names
08:29:08 <esowiki> [[Brainfoctal]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=58290&oldid=58289 * Salpynx * (+3) /* Example Hello World generation */
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10:19:00 <int-e> hmm, cute title: Rush Hour is PSPACE-complete, or “Why you should generously tip parking lot attendants”
10:26:47 <shachaf> "Why you should take the train"
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15:21:10 <paul2520> another question: recommended books about esoteric languages/programming, and/or subjects like code golf? I'm working through Toledo Nanochess.
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16:14:48 <esowiki> [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * Mowag * New user account
16:19:04 <esowiki> [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=58291&oldid=58277 * Mowag * (+161) Hi
16:19:09 <esowiki> [[Chef]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=58292&oldid=37017 * Mowag * (-87) Added a link to a (slightly) better python interpreter
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20:50:57 <esowiki> [[Brainfoctal]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=58293&oldid=58290 * Salpynx * (-10)
20:52:23 <esowiki> [[Cupid]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=58294&oldid=39774 * Rdebath * (+395) Add interpreter. I kinda like this TBS
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21:17:49 <esowiki> [[OM]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=58295&oldid=54972 * Robertpmorton39 * (-14) Fixed ambiguity in precedences and changed wording in built-in macros.
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21:37:45 <zzo38> If I use nc to create a UNIX socket and then try to connect to it, the listening process segfaults. What is doing wrong with this?
21:44:16 <zzo38> I figured out why; it is a bug, that it tries to use the port number, but there isn't any. Specifying a port number anyways will avoid this bug and allow it to work.
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22:46:43 <moony> I've poked the guy who maintains the OpenBSD port for the Luna88K to see if he can give me a copy of the device's PROM and Mask ROM. Hopefully he can
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23:31:23 <fizzie> Hmm. I'm not sure why the zsync thing doesn't work. Though it's always been a little bit of a mystery to me anyway. It's not very good with error messages.
23:32:48 <fizzie> All I can say is that the files are generated with "(thing that produces the XML dump) | zsyncmake -z -f esolang.xml -u https://esolangs.org/dump/esolang.xml.gz", and that results in two output files esolang.xml.gz and esolang.xml.zsync, which are then based in that dump/ directory and seem to be be fetchable just fine.
23:33:37 <fizzie> Poking around a little, though, I think it might be that zsync just doesn't support https.
23:38:56 <fizzie> Yes, that seems to be the case. That's kind of unfortunate.
23:41:15 <ais523> are there any competing incremental download technologies?
23:41:38 <ais523> I know I wasn't able to get a working zsync backup last time I tried
23:41:54 <fizzie> There's rsync, but that's awkward to serve.
23:42:18 <ais523> I didn't realise it diffed at the file level
23:42:27 <fizzie> Someone seems to have made a "zsync-curl" project which replaces the HTTP client parts of zsync with libcurl, making it work over HTTPS. But at least Debian doesn't package that.
23:42:56 <ais523> come to think of it, something like git could work, couldn't it? although I'm not sure it actually sends updates as file-level diffs
23:43:57 <fizzie> I could also just remove the -u parameter from the zsyncmake command, in which case you should be able to download it over HTTP with conventional zsync, and HTTPS if you have a suitable client for that.
23:44:14 <fizzie> In that case I should probably also store a checksum that could be fetched over HTTPS to validate.
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