< 1549671553 371061 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.7.203.dynamic.ufanet.ru QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1549671745 342263 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1549673809 953298 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1549674221 952272 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1549674559 725781 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-176.catv.broadband.hu QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1549675054 180306 :Remavas!~Remavas@unaffiliated/remavas QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1549675440 413598 :Essadon!~Essadon@81-225-32-185-no249.tbcn.telia.com QUIT :Quit: Qutting < 1549676554 652730 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18b98dd9.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1549676736 836686 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18b98dd9.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1549677102 787273 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1549677378 653919 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1549678789 316054 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :on-chip ring networks of processors could actually be really, really nice. if you use a space-filling curve, you could compact a bunch of nodes in a very small space. < 1549678844 584331 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd need one that loops, though. < 1549678850 456156 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe a moore curve. < 1549680114 893213 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-213.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1549680359 897775 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1549680371 737860 :Remavas!~Remavas@unaffiliated/remavas JOIN :#esoteric < 1549680664 894659 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1549681918 703436 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-213.eastlink.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1549683106 398427 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-213.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1549683364 213979 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-213.eastlink.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1549683590 795608 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1549683890 654132 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1549684263 615560 :Remavas!~Remavas@unaffiliated/remavas QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1549684805 930821 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Quit: rebooting < 1549684853 413693 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1549684862 205270 :nfd9001!~nfd9001@c-73-157-90-101.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1549687317 531346 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-213.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1549687334 945669 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT : < 1549687706 530181 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-213.eastlink.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds > 1549688177 281384 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Vague14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=59780 5* 03Cortex 5* (+596) 10Created page with "'''Vague''' is an esolang. == Commands == {| class="wikitable" |- ! Character !! What it does |- | + || Add |- | - || Decrement |- | !..." > 1549688197 859259 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Cortex14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=59781&oldid=59747 5* 03Cortex 5* (+12) 10 > 1549688273 393271 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Joke language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=59782&oldid=59459 5* 03Cortex 5* (+28) 10 < 1549690082 235921 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1549690336 232713 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1549691012 963246 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.7.203.dynamic.ufanet.ru JOIN :#esoteric < 1549691243 817603 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-213.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1549691987 997582 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite > 1549694658 256652 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Thue-Mirr14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=59783 5* 03Zzo38 5* (+545) 10Created page with "[[Category:Languages]][[Category:2019]] Thue-Mirr is a 2D programming language with the following commands: * \ / - Mirrors * x - Output X coordinate of til..." > 1549695488 327053 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Thue-Mirr14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=59784&oldid=59783 5* 03Zzo38 5* (+57) 10 < 1549696570 376360 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1549696827 269518 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1549698283 728095 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1549699624 460473 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1549700513 536259 :nfd9001!~nfd9001@c-73-157-90-101.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1549711137 389258 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A4B8E1.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1549711517 241467 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-213.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe the sequel of XYZABCDE.ZZT game can be made as a text adventure game instead; I don't know? < 1549711536 210672 :rain1!~My_user_n@unaffiliated/rain1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't tried XYZABCDE < 1549711566 203969 :rain1!~My_user_n@unaffiliated/rain1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://zzo38computer.org/ZZT/xyzabcde.zip < 1549711609 635590 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-213.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that one. If you have ZZT in your computer then you can try to play game. < 1549711697 967395 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-213.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And maybe also a sequel may be a different operetta too (I think someone on this IRC suggested something like that, maybe) < 1549713206 556544 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1549713259 701722 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 JOIN :#esoteric < 1549713446 773840 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-abahvepjnutqhwsi JOIN :#esoteric < 1549714297 389246 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A4B8E1.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1549715871 490473 :atslash!~atslash@static.231.107.9.5.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1549716967 296594 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-117.catv.broadband.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1549720237 599159 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-117.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd like a book like Warren's Hacker's Delight, only updated to more modern to tell about how to do things well on actual modern cpus and the kind of vector instructions they have < 1549720280 975552 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-117.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Knuth doesn't fill that hole, probably because the specifics are moving too quickly and may have to be rewritten every eight years. < 1549720983 287505 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1549721230 80638 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-abahvepjnutqhwsi QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1549724237 23266 :atslash!~atslash@static.231.107.9.5.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1549727138 822194 :Essadon!~Essadon@81-225-32-185-no249.tbcn.telia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1549733648 714657 :feeb!sid310875@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tkkkmpafqclcmtnf JOIN :#esoteric < 1549733900 839591 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-213.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How to do best might depend what kind of instruction set; x86 is difference from ARM, and ARM is difference from RISC-V, and so on. < 1549733909 599645 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-82l26zcehbybvusuxld.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1549735830 172403 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: yeah, that's a cool book < 1549736380 720865 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-213.eastlink.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1549736478 694579 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: [who left] indeed < 1549736486 181880 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a good reason to use compiler intrinsics for bitops < 1549736503 854721 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it will either have some arch-specific trick, or a pretty good generic impl < 1549736513 835319 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :x86 and ARM have some fancy bit ops < 1549736521 14419 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :whereas RISC-V is very simple < 1549736569 329613 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: the mill is where it's at hth < 1549736575 455268 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should watch the mill videos < 1549736585 456184 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has xor, or, and, logical and arithmetic shifts < 1549736587 938617 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that's about it < 1549736612 88292 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no negation (I suppose you xor with 0xFFFF...FFFF) < 1549736678 22955 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :RISC-V also has no condition flags. there are instructions to branch on the contents of a register, and comparisons which set a register to 0/1 < 1549736695 827454 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose this makes out of order execution easier. no need to track the flags register as another implicit dependency < 1549737064 818343 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-213.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1549737251 855137 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-117.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: it certainly depends a bit, but we still need good books on it < 1549737272 479851 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-117.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, different instruction sets applies to the actual Warren book and Knuth too, but they're still very useful < 1549737617 667385 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Do you like the multiple OR and multiple XOR instructions? < 1549737656 724168 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-213.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I think the MOR and MXOR instructions in MMIX is good. < 1549737827 973930 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-213.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Although MOR seems to be generally more useful than MXOR, but MXOR can be useful too sometimes.) < 1549738062 570339 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-213.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Such as you can swap endian (including PDP-endian). < 1549738547 415008 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do those work? < 1549738633 378371 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode JOIN :#esoteric < 1549738690 734884 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-213.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: http://mmix.cs.hm.edu/doc/instructions-en.html#MOR < 1549739131 670288 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-213.eastlink.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1549739531 263923 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-213.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric > 1549740487 895034 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Bitwise Trance14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=59785 5* 03Hakerh400 5* (+6077) 10Added Bitwise Trance < 1549740539 562349 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :anybody an idea for a good thesis topic about zkp? > 1549740624 185376 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=59786&oldid=59748 5* 03Hakerh400 5* (+21) 10Added "Bitwise Trance" to the language list < 1549741106 943145 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.7.203.dynamic.ufanet.ru QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds > 1549741135 543975 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Bitwise Trance14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=59787&oldid=59785 5* 03Hakerh400 5* (+0) 10/* First example */ > 1549741189 919776 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Bitwise Trance14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=59788&oldid=59787 5* 03Hakerh400 5* (+6) 10/* First example */ < 1549743782 925299 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fzorscvvdxbzhmye JOIN :#esoteric < 1549744866 836931 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1549748135 601138 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:995f:fb71:3928:f4a:8814:b90f QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1549748925 315356 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:995f:fb71:d16d:b525:38cd:1856 JOIN :#esoteric < 1549749549 890779 :rain1!~My_user_n@unaffiliated/rain1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how often do spaceships occur at random in game of life < 1549749813 293161 :Remavas!~Remavas@unaffiliated/remavas JOIN :#esoteric < 1549750259 936994 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Starting from an empty board, 0% of the time < 1549750262 2350 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-213.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know. Did you try implementing it to see how often (approximately)? < 1549750324 310801 :rain1!~My_user_n@unaffiliated/rain1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't implement it < 1549751139 757896 :Remavas!~Remavas@unaffiliated/remavas NICK :Remavas[AFK] < 1549751275 728641 :Remavas[AFK]!~Remavas@unaffiliated/remavas NICK :Remavas < 1549751299 392230 :Remavas!~Remavas@unaffiliated/remavas QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1549751369 736536 :Remavas!~Remavas@unaffiliated/remavas JOIN :#esoteric < 1549752139 890472 :Remavas!~Remavas@unaffiliated/remavas QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1549752193 358671 :Remavas!~Remavas@unaffiliated/remavas JOIN :#esoteric < 1549752247 681016 :Remavas!~Remavas@unaffiliated/remavas NICK :Remavas[AFK] < 1549752746 529444 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-82l26zcehbybvusuxld.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1549755757 527446 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :is a turing machine without states still turing complete? i.e instead of (state, symbol, newstate, newsymbol, direction), you have (symbol, newsymbol, direction)? doesn't seem like it would be. < 1549756434 93053 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would call that a single state TM. And as you suspect, those are not TC; the halting problem is decidable for single state TMs. < 1549756770 891453 :tromp!~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection