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 d: duplicate the next character. Example: d* results in **.  -: repl..."
07:48:53  [[String rewriting paradigm]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=60523&oldid=60522 * A * (-123) /* Syntax */
09:24:34  int-e: Have you played Baba Is You yet?
09:24:34  twh
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11:29:48  no
11:40:27  I might bite if it goes on sale
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12:06:23  stupid stemmer search, "miserable" is not related to "miser"
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12:13:22  hmm, this fish is salty
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13:35:17  oh, I know how I should use the new IRC_TARGET env-var. I can make a noping variant that mangles words only in chnanel, not in private message
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13:42:11  hello
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14:05:57  sup
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14:13:33  `? Saint Anthony of Padua
14:13:35  Saint Anthony of Padua? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
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14:34:49  ouch, what's with people always defining simple languages with a built-in integer addition, multiplication and division operator, but no less-than comparison?
14:38:00  i dunno
14:38:22  one day i wanna make a golfing language with exactly 128 characters
14:38:28  or 256, or any power of 2
14:39:25  or commands
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15:51:35  Does a language used only for educational purposes count as esoteric?
15:52:21  [[Lawrence J. Krakauer's decimal computer]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=60524 * B jonas * (+796) Created page with "Lawrence J. Krakauer's decimal computer was an educational language invented after 1965 for teaching programming to children in a camp.  It was implemented as an emulator on a..."
15:52:52  Also, does a languauge count as implemented if we believe there was an implementation, but it is lost now, such as BANCStar?
15:58:23  I don't know; perhaps add neither implemented nor unimplemented category.
16:05:28  You could try to reimplement BANCStar, but I think not enough is known about it to reimplement it; how many programs with it have been found and which instructions have been used? I don't know what the different function keys means, there is other unknown stuff, and then there is disagreements of what we think it means.
16:07:50  (I also don't know if modern area codes would be accepted in the old implementation. I had this problem with another database program, so I don't know if BANCStar does too or not.)
16:09:47  no way
16:10:30  reimplement BANCStar when the last person who wanted to bring an implementation disappeared in suspicious circumstances? I'm not going to tempt the Men in Black or whatever power took him away
16:10:43  if I want to implement esoteric languages, I have better ones to choose
16:10:56  most importantly Consumer Society, my own language
16:11:32  OK
16:15:42  also, my current job involves using a commercial GUI framework and try to abuse it in ways it wasn't primarily designed for, and that's already too close to BANCStar programming
16:17:07  OK
16:36:14  haha
16:48:24  yeah, I'll be laughing about it too when I'll quit, just wait a few months
16:56:52  In those stereotypical cartoons where people throw tomatoes and rotten eggs at a performer, I wonder where they get reliably rotten eggs from? Eggs keep pretty well, and you can tell if they're rotten only once you open them.
17:07:05  I don't know? They used a egg rottening device?
17:09:30  maybe they do rot reliably if you keep them outside of the fridge for three years or something
17:10:12  Yes, maybe, I haven't tried so I don't know (and I do not really intend to try)
17:10:34  or... wait, I think I heared something about how there might be a trick to tell if it's rotten without opening the egg, perhaps from how it shakes or shining a strong light through it
17:11:02  or with some divination spell
17:11:17  If there is, then that can help because then you can take out the rotten egg and don't eat it, and yet you can still use it for throwing.
17:13:16  yeah, the internet says there are (not quite perfect) ways to tell if it's rotten without opening
17:15:38  none of them are very reliable
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18:02:53  also: eggs last longer if refridgerated, but they also HAVE to be fridged in the USA, because we wash off a protective coating for some reason
18:02:58  in most countries eggs are stored at room temp
18:11:37  kmc: well, I store them in the fridge, but they're the kind of thing like tomatoes and some other fruit which can be stored either in the fridge or outside
18:12:02  for fruits it's more of a tradeoff, for eggs I believe the fridge doesn't hurt them at all
18:12:23  mhm
18:12:38  I have read that eggs last longer in the fridge, my wife may dsypute that though
18:12:49  I would ask her about fruit but she's busy copying Morse code
18:14:22  for fruits it depends a lot on the type of fruit, and also the temperature of the fridge
18:14:45  and in particular, they say tomatoes may lose some of their taste in the fridge
18:15:24  for some fruits and vegetables it's obvious: raspberries must be kept in the fridge, potatoes are better kept outside
18:16:21  it will slow down ripining, which mkes it good for things like avocados
18:16:35  I think it would be cool to have a system wwhich stores open avocados in an oxygen-poor environment
18:18:46  I have a dream where in the future, we won't have fridges at home, but instead a sci-fi stasis cupboard that vibrates the inside at near light speed, so that very little time passes for the things inside between you open the doors
18:19:03  :D
18:19:29  when that becomes usual in household, ice cubes will become less usual, and they'll be something you only get in bars and restaurants, not at home
18:24:14  I have these cube shaped rocks that you keep in the freezer
18:24:22  you can put them in a drink to chill it without diluting it
18:24:32  I think they are called whiskey rocks or similar
18:24:59  sort of nice if you have a fancy whisky or such, although I generally drink those neat, more flavor
18:32:07  yeah, I know those exist
18:32:16  but the stasis cupboard won't help much for that
18:32:43  mind you, at the moment you have such crazy gravity warping devices at home, you'll probably have large homes and might be able to afford a freezer too
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19:03:22  I looked at the HTTP headers for one webpage because I wanted to see when it was written; I could see no date on the article itself or in the URL. I did not find that information, but there was a "X-hacker" header.
19:12:13  zzo38: that's the unofficial one for advertising jobs to webdevs, right?
19:13:46  That is what it looks like to me
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19:42:57  hey y'all
19:42:59  andrew here
19:44:42  int-e: but what if the original price was $30 and it went on sale for the current price of $15
19:44:49  then you'd bite hth
19:44:58  shachaf: nope
19:45:14  this is above your price ceiling?
19:46:24  whatchall talking about my cowboys
19:47:11  shachaf: I'm not really looking for new games to play atm. So pretty much any game will be in the "meh I might try this if it's cheap" category.
19:48:21  andrew:  int-e: Have you played Baba Is You yet?
19:49:13  andrew: Also, these endearments don't fly with me. I find them annoying, not cute.
19:50:27  yeah, that was stupid
19:50:28  anyway
19:50:33  i haven't played baba is you
19:51:21  but this one is tg, hth
19:51:30  but that makes sense
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19:59:11  Have you played XYZABCDE.ZZT? It costs only $0
20:00:31  no
20:01:19  Has anyone on played any of the new NES/Famicom games written recently?
20:02:22  nope
20:02:26  are they turing completw?
20:02:32  https://archive.org/details/zzt_xyzabcde
20:03:33  why's iti mportant
20:03:35  self promo?
20:04:19  I don't think the recent ones are Turing complete, but people have tried esolangs with NES/Famicom before, but not any actual game
20:05:49  This game is self promo yes, I wanted to see what are some people's opinion of this, and other comments.
20:06:03  It isn't otherwise that important, but you can try if you want to do.
20:06:56  no, I haven't played any sort of videogame for quite a while
20:07:02  OK
20:07:10  and when I choose to play them, I'll probably play old ones, not new ones
20:07:18  OK
20:07:41  (Although the new ones I am suggesting are working just as well on old computers anyways)
20:09:33  i have only played it for a few seconds but it seems difficult
20:09:55  (The animated screenshot there is rather messy)
20:10:21  Yes, it is difficult, although there are many ways to try, as well as cheat codes, and you can set the game speed if you wish, and you can save/restore at any time (including multiple files if you wish)
20:12:22  meh I may have tried this.
20:12:52   i tried to shoot all bad guys but they killed me
20:13:06  its good though
20:13:48  rain1: You might not have enough ammunition; you can find more. It is also possible to outrun the bad guys in some places.
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20:17:24  You also do not have to go directly east from the start; you can try other locations too. (Nobody will kill you in the library.)
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20:41:29  "The books about weather were destroyed by rain, the books about cooking were cooked and destroyed by the heat, the books about astronomy were taken in a space ship and they seem to have never been returned, the books about police were confiscated by the police, the books about termites were eaten by termites, and the books about about invisibility magic suddenly turned invisible somehow, making it hard to read." - oh irony!
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20:54:45  Well... give me a version without hazards (monsters, devices shooting) and darkness (torches run out quickly) and I might enjoy wandering around a bit. But as is, I can see five rooms, then I die. Well I actually got past the south room but there was little fun in that.
20:57:30  There are cheat codes. Type a question mark, and then type what you want: "ammo", "health", "gems", or "torches". You can also type "-dark" to get rid of darkness (and "dark" to add darkness).
20:57:34  If I just want to play a game where I die constantly and quickly I'll play a round of Tower of Guns :P
20:59:05  There is also "zap", which destroys the objects on the four adjacent tiles to the player, but don't do that when standing next to the edge of the board; a bug in ZZT causes problems if you do that.
21:03:09  There are some other cheat codes too: "keys" gives you all seven keys, and "+debug" tells you the memory usage.
21:05:27  O, and "time" gives you more time when in timed areas (using it elsewhere will make an internal counter negative, and some of the game logic will fail to work properly in this case).
21:34:02  In the area north of the starting room, use the "+lever" cheat code to get rid of the shooting.
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23:31:00  [[Talk:String rewriting paradigm]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=60525 * Salpynx * (+1464) Misnamed language?
23:54:29  Looking at the free chapter of the Manga Guide to Linear Algebra, already learned something I didn't know (the distinction between range and codomain)
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