00:00:08 <int-e> But the past 10 years look a bit better on the CV. So... I shouldn't complain.
00:00:17 <kmc> I've given up on work, my wife pays the bills and I fuck around aimlessly, this sounds great and it kind of is but I also feel like a useless failure. I need to find something constructive to do with my life that benefits others
00:00:18 <pikhq> I'm a bit confused people still even talk to me.
00:00:27 <kmc> I like you
00:00:40 <pikhq> By "people" I mean "potential employers" to be clear.
00:00:51 <pikhq> Sure, I had a job at Google! ... for like 9 months
00:01:22 <pikhq> ... and then a 2 year gap with no professional experience, where I finished a degree that's only tangentially related.
00:02:02 <pikhq> Gainfully employed now, but I'm wondering how long it'll take until they realize I'm clueless.
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00:03:39 <int-e> pikhq: my understanding is that everybody is faking it to some degree
00:04:40 <pikhq> You could basically describe my knowledge on this job before I came in as "concepts from related systems, and the ability to use Google effectively"
00:04:47 <pikhq> Somehow it's working or something.
00:05:26 <int-e> I strongly believe in abstraction ability and pattern matching.
00:06:21 <pikhq> Though I mean, to be fair, I was pretty honest interviewing with them "I don't know your stuff at all. I know X, Y, and Z that's similar, but I would have to be learning on the job"
00:06:29 <pikhq> So... I guess they just expect that
00:06:55 <int-e> It's so tempting to just say "I know programming".
00:12:16 <arseniiv> and I was thinking my life is a mess :) in relation to work and CV
00:12:40 <pikhq> I graduated from college! ... 10 years after starting
00:13:34 <arseniiv> someone walked off from a university because of a stupid reason and general frustration?
00:15:07 <pikhq> Yeah, and I came back later and got a completely different degree.
00:16:18 <arseniiv> I can’t make myself repeat something like that. Too many unrelated tangles, it seemed
00:16:50 <pikhq> This is why I did a completely different degree.
00:17:06 <pikhq> If I was going to come back, I was at least going to learn something new.
00:17:42 <arseniiv> I guess I just got unlucky in that and had picked a bad place :( but now the picture is tainted to try again, and I’m like too old to go through the several years of basics
00:17:58 <arseniiv> pikhq: glad it worked in your case!
00:18:44 <arseniiv> what a pessimistic topic, let’s pretend I haven’t spilled anything here ::
00:19:02 <pikhq> At least a lot of the more basic junk needed for that degree, I'd already done.e
00:19:24 <pikhq> I had a fair number of liberal arts type things to do, but degree coursework I was starting out on upper-level stuff.
00:25:59 <arseniiv> btw wish a ton of luck and persistence to any who applies to somewhere or writes their CV or has any life-changing choice. There just can’t be too much of that. Though a wish is still just a wish
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00:26:34 <pikhq> Yep. Contrary to some peoples' insistence, a lot of stuff in life is just luck.
00:30:19 <kmc> mm, life changing choices
00:33:31 <pikhq> They can be some good stuff.
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04:15:28 <oerjan> girl genius: well, that's a very weird last comment there. _is_ that somehow tarvek?
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08:48:43 <wob_jonas> "<int-e> pikhq: my understanding is that everybody is faking it to some degree" => also the people who aren't are too expensive to hire
08:49:30 <wob_jonas> As for a CV, I decided on what approach I'll use when I seek a new job: https://esolangs.org/logs/2019-01.html#lZF
08:49:43 <Taneb> @tell oerjan That was my first thought, but I think it's more likely they're just being self-centered (not necessarily inconsistent with being Tarvek)
08:50:10 <wob_jonas> I'll just reference two tricky bug reports to shwo that I can find bugs in large well-written programs, and look for programming jobs where that matters.
08:53:01 <wob_jonas> "<arseniiv> btw wish a ton of luck and persistence" => thanks
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18:22:16 <oren> `` echo '| I' | grep '| I'
18:24:36 <oren> `` echo -e '|\tI' | grep '| I'
18:24:40 <oren> `` echo -e '|\tI' | grep '|\tI'
18:25:00 <oren> `` echo -e '|\tI' | grep '|'$'\t''I'
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20:57:54 <kmc> @run iterate show ""
20:57:56 <lambdabot> ["","\"\"","\"\\\"\\\"\"","\"\\\"\\\\\\\"\\\\\\\"\\\"\"","\"\\\"\\\\\\\"\\\\...
20:58:13 <kmc> > iterate (show . show) ""
20:58:15 <lambdabot> ["","\"\\\"\\\"\"","\"\\\"\\\\\\\"\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\"\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\"\\\\\\\"\\...
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21:34:25 <b_jonas> have you guys played factorio?
21:34:32 <b_jonas> seems like an interesting game
21:35:34 <kmc> it's reasonably interesting
21:35:40 <kmc> I never got super into it like my friend did
21:35:56 <kmc> he's played... god, I don't know how many thousands of hours
21:42:11 <int-e> So I've found the Center in Baba is You. (That's where I found the sillines as well.)
21:45:02 <b_jonas> is the center an "IS" block?
21:46:10 <int-e> it's a place, not a block
21:46:25 <b_jonas> yeah, but what is at that place?
21:47:35 <b_jonas> nah, that'd probably be a spoiler
21:47:49 <HackEso> game of thrones? ¯\(°_o)/¯
21:50:40 <HackEso> Chess is a complex boardgame, where players exchange unclear royal steaks until they decide which of them has lost. The game is recorded through the Gringmuth Moving Pineapple Notation.
21:51:17 <HackEso> Go is a common irregular verbal game programming language invented by the Germanic Taneb tribes catching monsters in the strategic territories of East Asia.
21:52:13 <HackEso> J started out as a synonym for I, but then branched out into an array of other uses.
21:52:16 <HackEso> super mario bros? ¯\(°_o)/¯
21:52:51 <b_jonas> well, I have created https://esolangs.org/wiki/Nondeterministic_Super_Mario_Bros. a while ago
21:52:58 <LKoen> is your login inspired by a japanese anime inspired by a french novel?
21:53:29 <b_jonas> the login of my hon. and learned friend fungot?
21:53:29 <fungot> b_jonas: what the hon. and learned friend the minister for the work he is now undertaking to restore the right to obtain to fund the new it for students.
21:54:18 <arseniiv> (I mean yeah whose login, not yeah inspired; my login is my name plus a letter)
21:55:24 <LKoen> I meant your login
21:55:33 <LKoen> because "iiv" is basically 3 in roman numerals
21:56:06 <LKoen> and "Arsene Lupin" is a series of french novels, which inspired a japanese anime called "Rupin III" about the grandson of Arsene Lupin
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21:58:51 <HackEso> kmc did not run the International Devious Code Contest of 2013.
21:59:02 <kmc> 2013... so long ago
21:59:07 <kmc> I was a completely different person
21:59:42 <kmc> that was before everything fell apart
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22:05:45 <kmc> so, how 'bout them Turing machines, eh? never know when they're gonna stop
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22:08:15 <b_jonas> I was wondering about the roman numeral, though more as in the "iv" being a roman numeral, and the first "i" separate from it
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22:59:26 <lambdabot> Taneb said 14h 9m 43s ago: That was my first thought, but I think it's more likely they're just being self-centered (not necessarily inconsistent with being Tarvek)
23:08:07 <HackEso> game of thrones? ¯\(°_o)/¯
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23:35:32 <esowiki> [[Main Page]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=60898&oldid=60895 * Oerjan * (-93) Undo revision 60895 by [[Special:Contributions/KerbalEngineer|KerbalEngineer]] ([[User talk:KerbalEngineer|talk]]) (See Meta section.)