< 1557187231 927366 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :weston: !ztest can be done in private (!zjoust always announces) < 1557187276 311496 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gah, all those underscores. < 1557187352 77407 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it's at maximal length now... < 1557187404 183896 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it's actually sending many more and those just get cut off :P < 1557187412 922931 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably. And despite a public holiday over here, I didn't make any progress at the reimplementation work. :/ < 1557187488 253766 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :at some point it should get refused due to exceeding line length < 1557187788 6886 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1557187865 467479 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: there are far worse ways to waste one's time :) < 1557187874 18383 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that's kind of concerning. Because I don't think it will actually restart properly. < 1557187875 329563 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 JOIN :#esoteric < 1557188423 2184 :weston!8ea78f5a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.142.167.143.90 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, sorry! I assumed it was private < 1557188479 391637 :weston!8ea78f5a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.142.167.143.90 PRIVMSG #esoteric :New to IRC, how do I do private? < 1557188509 608786 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Usually "/query zemhill_______" opens a private window. < 1557188520 533881 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I think it does in the webchat as well.) < 1557188537 363796 :weston!8ea78f5a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.142.167.143.90 PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems to, thanks > 1557188969 351921 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Bootstrap14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=61777&oldid=61660 5* 03Oerjan 5* (-13) 10Partial revert to compiler: I don't think it makes sense to consider self-interpreters bootstrapping, because then you need to keep another implementation around to run it even after the "bootstrap". < 1557189057 471596 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: in other news, my change to the history page titles still doesn't seem to have taken effect. < 1557189162 963240 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: the dinosaurs aren't scary by themselves, it's what they may evolve into that is the stuff of nightmares :) < 1557189189 931932 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, that was the idea that I liked and still like a lot. > 1557189214 651101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Bootstrap14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=61778&oldid=61777 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+68) 10Elaborate a bit more < 1557189274 301825 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.3.209.dynamic.ufanet.ru QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1557189303 188079 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( i take it int-e doesn't like birds ) < 1557189370 792952 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :They are freaks of nature. :P < 1557189421 424050 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Of course this is basically true of any species whatsoever.) < 1557189437 616817 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is off to bed.
> 1557189644 873910 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07(PTM)14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=61779&oldid=61712 5* 03Oerjan 5* (-5) 10/* Links & Further reading */ Standard header < 1557190654 216261 :Melvar!~melvar@ltea-178-014-120-034.pools.arcor-ip.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1557190665 165886 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode JOIN :#esoteric < 1557191383 218093 :tromp!~tromp@2a02:a210:1585:3200:8069:6930:80df:576f JOIN :#esoteric < 1557191427 237366 :Melvar!~melvar@dslc-082-082-054-010.pools.arcor-ip.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1557191608 306942 :adu!~ajr@pool-173-73-86-145.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1557191643 166629 :tromp!~tromp@2a02:a210:1585:3200:8069:6930:80df:576f QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1557197670 296468 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1557197841 71306 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1557199315 479235 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT : < 1557199524 506477 :weston!8ea78f5a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.142.167.143.90 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1557199553 135898 :westonian!8ea78f5a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.142.167.143.90 JOIN :#esoteric < 1557199705 441387 :westonian!8ea78f5a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.142.167.143.90 QUIT :Client Quit < 1557199742 140102 :westonian!8ea78f5a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.142.167.143.90 JOIN :#esoteric < 1557201364 713013 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa, Windows is replacing WSL with actual Linux. < 1557205586 498340 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18b98dd9.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1557205766 961562 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18b98dd9.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1557205774 332031 :adu!~ajr@pool-173-73-86-145.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1557206353 239153 :adu!~ajr@pool-173-73-86-145.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1557208265 327074 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1557208505 88563 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b98dd9.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1557208640 399484 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18b98dd9.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1557208699 207518 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1557210482 335448 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1557210825 385522 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 JOIN :#esoteric < 1557210877 241032 :tromp!~tromp@2a02:a210:1585:3200:8069:6930:80df:576f JOIN :#esoteric < 1557211171 209639 :tromp!~tromp@2a02:a210:1585:3200:8069:6930:80df:576f QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1557211372 975682 :yaewa!~moei@softbank221078042071.bbtec.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1557211450 329071 :moei!~moei@softbank221078042071.bbtec.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1557211752 392369 :moei!~moei@softbank221078042071.bbtec.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1557211914 968246 :yaewa!~moei@softbank221078042071.bbtec.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1557211938 815089 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1557212351 999708 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 JOIN :#esoteric < 1557214295 227373 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-82l26zfnlgwh4k4ewtw.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1557214734 49809 :tromp!~tromp@2a02:a210:1585:3200:8069:6930:80df:576f JOIN :#esoteric < 1557217085 973185 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1557217252 245117 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 JOIN :#esoteric < 1557217313 911575 :tromp!~tromp@2a02:a210:1585:3200:8069:6930:80df:576f QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1557219289 298760 :tromp!~tromp@2a02:a210:1585:3200:8069:6930:80df:576f JOIN :#esoteric < 1557219546 303892 :tromp!~tromp@2a02:a210:1585:3200:8069:6930:80df:576f QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1557220059 227909 :hakatashi!~hakatashi@104.131.49.125 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1557220120 838092 :hakatashi!~hakatashi@104.131.49.125 JOIN :#esoteric < 1557221709 224116 :tromp!~tromp@2a02:a210:1585:3200:8069:6930:80df:576f JOIN :#esoteric < 1557222532 351844 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 JOIN :#esoteric < 1557222555 255086 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1557222679 42651 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 NICK :Lord_of_Life < 1557224474 323478 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1557224635 118907 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 JOIN :#esoteric < 1557224707 210170 :nfd!~nfd9001@2601:602:8500:2443:c146:f57e:d83d:29e JOIN :#esoteric < 1557224738 301237 :nfd9001!~nfd9001@c-67-183-33-240.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds > 1557224855 669364 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Timeline of esoteric programming languages14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=61780&oldid=59205 5* 03A 5* (+347) 10Put feature languages into this timeline (they are definitely important) > 1557225183 763866 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Keg/Golfing14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=61781&oldid=61767 5* 03A 5* (+42) 10/* Problem #2. Golf the Deadfish interpreter. */ > 1557225567 555096 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07List of ideas14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=61782&oldid=61411 5* 03A 5* (+145) 10Add an idea < 1557226232 215367 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18b98dd9.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1557226452 195965 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b98dd9.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1557229638 393582 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 JOIN :#esoteric < 1557229756 243632 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1557229786 204270 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 NICK :Lord_of_Life < 1557229860 133339 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@89.189.136.188.dynamic.ufanet.ru JOIN :#esoteric < 1557231877 152136 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.bergfex.com/tirol/wetter/stationen/innsbruck-flughafen/ looks like somebody fixed an HTML injection problem. :-) < 1557231903 575815 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :also.. so cold. < 1557231921 405339 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar lowi < 1557231921 934624 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOWI 071220Z 15006KT 100V210 CAVOK 12/M01 Q1016 NOSIG < 1557231984 63077 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it's funny; the dewpoint estimates tend to differ by about one degree despite the measurements coming from the same place.) < 1557232445 432733 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar egsc < 1557232445 943861 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :EGSC 071220Z 19007KT 9999 FEW040 BKN057CB 12/02 Q1014 < 1557232539 576931 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not too warm here either :( > 1557233960 415828 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Bitch14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=61783&oldid=61775 5* 03A 5* (-1620) 10Thanks for the comments, I undo my edits of Bool Row. > 1557234003 204170 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Bitch14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=61784&oldid=61783 5* 03A 5* (-520) 10And delete Bool Row. < 1557234038 94188 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18b98dd9.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1557234235 233265 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18b98dd9.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds > 1557234575 594907 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Bitch14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=61785&oldid=61784 5* 03A 5* (+283) 10Eliminate some computational models (as it is not clear whether it is Turing-complete) > 1557234682 552332 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Bitch14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=61786&oldid=61295 5* 03A 5* (+35) 10Even though it is unclear whether bitch is Turing-complete, it is clear that it is at least a finite-state automata. > 1557234761 58030 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Bitch14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=61787&oldid=61785 5* 03A 5* (+2) 10/* What bitch surpasses */ > 1557234944 417802 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Bitch14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=61788&oldid=61787 5* 03A 5* (+106) 10/* What bitch surpasses */ > 1557235306 42486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Bitch14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=61789&oldid=61788 5* 03A 5* (+11) 10 > 1557235458 430455 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Bitch14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=61790&oldid=61789 5* 03A 5* (+67) 10Add a subtitle(I can't find where it is) > 1557235624 8641 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Bitch14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=61791&oldid=61790 5* 03A 5* (+227) 10/* Attempts on proving that bitch is a Push down automaton */ > 1557236568 292711 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Bitch14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=61792&oldid=61791 5* 03A 5* (+544) 10/* Attempts on proving that bitch is a Push-down automaton */ > 1557236593 197252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Bitch14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=61793&oldid=61792 5* 03A 5* (+15) 10/* What bitch surpasses */ > 1557236682 160355 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Bitch14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=61794&oldid=61793 5* 03A 5* (+90) 10/* What bitch surpasses */ > 1557236900 550051 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Bitch14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=61795&oldid=61794 5* 03A 5* (+299) 10/* Proof that the Halting problem is trivial in bitch */ < 1557236951 979294 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds > 1557237006 881413 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Bucket14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=61796&oldid=60518 5* 03A 5* (-2) 10Reduce the complexity of Bucket < 1557237067 206597 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 JOIN :#esoteric > 1557237408 573050 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Bucket14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=61797&oldid=61796 5* 03A 5* (-25) 10 < 1557237667 233092 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-82l26zfnlgwh4k4ewtw.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds > 1557237905 548977 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Bitch14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=61798&oldid=61795 5* 03A 5* (+0) 10/* Proof that bitch is a finite state automaton */ > 1557239117 95930 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07EXCON14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=61799&oldid=49643 5* 03A 5* (+2813) 10/* Hello, World! */ > 1557239138 499093 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07EXCON14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=61800&oldid=61799 5* 03A 5* (-39) 10It is usable for computing > 1557239210 660037 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Bitch14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=61801&oldid=61798 5* 03A 5* (-24) 10/* Proof that bitch is a finite state automaton */ < 1557239241 761531 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:995f:fb71:84c2:61a1:4db:e2c1 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection > 1557239255 351167 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Bitch14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=61802&oldid=61801 5* 03A 5* (+74) 10/* Proof that bitch is a finite state automaton */ < 1557239279 309602 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:995f:fb71:644f:8715:a169:9456 JOIN :#esoteric > 1557239413 676469 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Bitch14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=61803&oldid=61802 5* 03A 5* (-83) 10/* Trivial proofs */ > 1557239516 799676 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Bitch14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=61804&oldid=61803 5* 03A 5* (+91) 10/* Proof that bitch is a finite state automaton */ > 1557239973 147336 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Bitch14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=61805&oldid=61804 5* 03A 5* (+809) 10We are going too far for proving the TC-ness of bitch. > 1557240087 869171 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Bitch14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=61806&oldid=61805 5* 03A 5* (+10) 10minor edit > 1557240119 171242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Bitch14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=61807&oldid=61786 5* 03A 5* (-35) 10Undo revision of A > 1557240153 761523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Bitch14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=61808&oldid=61806 5* 03A 5* (+10) 10/* Attempts on proving that bitch is a Push-down automaton */ < 1557240288 336769 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode JOIN :#esoteric > 1557240413 32793 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Bitch14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=61809&oldid=61808 5* 03A 5* (+33) 10/* What bitch surpasses */ > 1557240435 531153 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Bitch14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=61810&oldid=61809 5* 03A 5* (-849) 10Already irrelevant to proving TC-ness > 1557240938 841247 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Bitch14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=61811&oldid=61810 5* 03A 5* (-446) 10/* [Ongoing] Equivalency between bitch and Home Row by User:Helen and User:A */ > 1557241092 420855 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Bitch14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=61812&oldid=61811 5* 03A 5* (+12) 10/* Proof that bitch is a finite state automaton */ < 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:LKoen!~LKoen@2a01cb0407597a00a99bbdf73eb142ef.ipv6.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1557246671 896904 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18b98dd9.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1557246806 225429 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b98dd9.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1557246853 344976 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18b98dd9.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1557246966 881047 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18b98dd9.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1557247303 86590 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01cb0407597a00a99bbdf73eb142ef.ipv6.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1557247674 779608 :S_Gautam!uid286066@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-leucbkpubqzkhykl JOIN :#esoteric < 1557247729 112678 :sftp!~sftp@unaffiliated/sftp QUIT :Excess Flood < 1557247754 754802 :sftp!~sftp@unaffiliated/sftp JOIN :#esoteric < 1557251316 726489 :LKoen!~LKoen@lfbn-idf2-1-331-228.w82-123.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1557251472 820944 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-213.eastlink.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1557252118 17738 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1557252795 213195 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1557252992 263696 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 JOIN :#esoteric < 1557253003 138375 :westonian!8ea78f5a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.142.167.143.90 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1557253407 289643 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-49.catv.broadband.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1557253815 30921 :orin!~oren@ec2-18-212-11-99.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like I successfully lit a fircracker under someone's butt at firefox < 1557253871 204780 :orin!~oren@ec2-18-212-11-99.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and convinced them that no, having addons just suddenly stop working on un-updated computers, isn't valid behaviour < 1557253953 449430 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mozilla has stopped giving a shit about their users < 1557253959 938283 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or about open source < 1557254040 807221 :orin!~oren@ec2-18-212-11-99.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :A related issue is the potential censorship of add-ons; Mozilla Foundations could be legally or culturally inhibited from signing otherwise fine add-ons < 1557254057 791511 :orin!~oren@ec2-18-212-11-99.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Due to its location in California, USA < 1557254095 466936 :orin!~oren@ec2-18-212-11-99.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I'm unaware of any extant examples of this problem < 1557255376 245254 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1557255634 499377 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18b98dd9.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1557255835 222663 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b98dd9.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1557256000 364732 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 JOIN :#esoteric < 1557257592 195411 :LKoen!~LKoen@lfbn-idf2-1-331-228.w82-123.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1557258213 350180 :S_Gautam!uid286066@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-leucbkpubqzkhykl QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1557258574 329491 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1557258618 182653 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 JOIN :#esoteric < 1557258752 40471 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1557259419 193561 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-82l26zfnlgwh4k4ewtw.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1557259514 169385 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-16-32-159.hlrn.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :orin: I think even just "it stops working by accident" is a pretty valid complaint, and one that came up recently, so. :) < 1557260477 12558 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1557260503 881139 :orin!~oren@ec2-18-212-11-99.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: the current date for the next addon mageddon is in 2025 < 1557262026 155854 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :re previous conversation, my wife reminded me of another way to choose an anniversary gift < 1557262062 164750 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is, think of a situation that caused relationship friction in the past year, and buy an item to prevent that < 1557262073 604817 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that's how I got an extension cord for my anniversary < 1557262184 447049 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-49.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: nice. I am wary of that particular one, and have got extra extension cords and cables < 1557262191 498801 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-49.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah, in general that should work well < 1557262201 773196 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-49.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want a new electric toothbrush though < 1557262201 773242 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1557262352 156271 :orin!~oren@ec2-18-212-11-99.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :one can never have too many spare extension cables and phone chargers < 1557262394 736793 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-49.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1557262415 431341 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-49.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially since they break compatibility every five yeras < 1557262441 43787 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-49.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :not for the extension cords, luckily < 1557262458 6493 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-49.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :those just have their cables broken or the surge protector broken < 1557262882 581046 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm still using micro usb < 1557262913 18882 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the issue before is that we had some short cords. and a huge (50 foot) heavy duty cord that was thick and unwieldy < 1557262920 588255 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and nothing in between < 1557262928 162090 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-49.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: yeah, there's that too < 1557262939 601098 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-49.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing between 0.3 m and 2 m < 1557262960 875520 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-49.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I can deal with the 2m cables using cable ties < 1557263109 545357 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1557263130 228809 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1557263679 151987 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel appreciated: Brexit Party sent me a personal letter about how they're saving democracy. < 1557263699 424631 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"However you voted in 2016, we all care about democracy --" < 1557263913 975857 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18b98dd9.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1557264008 726089 :rdococ!rdococ@unaffiliated/rdococ PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you save democracy by removing accountability from the government? < 1557264099 483451 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18b98dd9.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1557264888 386073 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-aafuayjdxbmspfml JOIN :#esoteric < 1557265060 554828 :clog!~nef@bespin.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1557265067 236839 :clog!~nef@bespin.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1557265265 254037 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18b98dd9.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1557265448 948082 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18b98dd9.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1557265755 227722 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1557265855 271208 :moei!~moei@softbank221078042071.bbtec.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving... < 1557266083 417094 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1557266519 167629 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: hm, that's not a bad gift idea < 1557266555 405425 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :she went to the hardware store and browsed until something jogged her memory of a conflict < 1557266650 165443 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should remember that one for later < 1557266669 936811 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, the 'something to prevent some recent friction' scheme idea, not specifically extension cord :p < 1557266672 925532 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1557266718 183265 :rain1!~My_user_n@unaffiliated/rain1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1557266744 452653 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1557266871 95894 :rain1!~My_user_n@unaffiliated/rain1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how would you implement a language based on a list of sentences and the semantics is order independent? < 1557266888 546813 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :needs more detail. what form do the sentences have? < 1557266897 21441 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :unification is one way. a logic language like prolog < 1557266903 81767 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or alloy < 1557266911 584512 :rain1!~My_user_n@unaffiliated/rain1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :im thinking like a generalized baba is you < 1557266919 508175 :j4cbo!sid186930@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jvuunpjzubdepftz PRIVMSG #esoteric :or Lingua::Romana::Perligata < 1557266922 571215 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-49.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :rain1: you can make each sentence a top-level function definition < 1557266930 597394 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the sentences represent logical facts and the interpter derives more facts from them < 1557266933 824332 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-49.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, like, a definition for a top level function or variable < 1557266944 200366 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :j4cbo: how is that order independent? < 1557266957 336706 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems like this falls under the general umbrella declarative programming < 1557266973 764436 :j4cbo!sid186930@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jvuunpjzubdepftz PRIVMSG #esoteric :syntactical order independent < 1557266989 541368 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :though you could also have an imperative language which works this way, if you have some rule for which sentence 'executes' first, such as the shortest one, or most specific according to some metric < 1557267011 981953 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-49.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or you can use statements, with a line label and explicitly writing the labels of next states < 1557267016 757990 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-49.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :thus linking them < 1557267022 174872 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1557267034 424913 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Baba Is You seems to have a pretty clear evaluation order, at least. < 1557267035 202020 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :old basics are like that... you can enter the lines in any order < 1557267039 192493 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: how's it defined? < 1557267054 618340 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, it's kind of complicated, but it seems like it exists. < 1557267058 772606 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :did anyone write an AI to play BiY yet? < 1557267066 264618 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems like it might discover some really interesting weird solutions < 1557267073 32690 :rain1!~My_user_n@unaffiliated/rain1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :by order doesn't matter i mean that you can shuffle the list of sentences and it has the same semantics < 1557267087 366379 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, I got that < 1557267097 189953 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-49.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or like one of those string replacement languages, one of those that are nondeterministic in which replacement rule is ran, so you have to chain them by states < 1557267189 666109 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mm < 1557267391 860363 :rain1!~My_user_n@unaffiliated/rain1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the AND and OR operators in first order logic are order-independent < 1557267400 545461 :rain1!~My_user_n@unaffiliated/rain1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so a logic solver might be a way to do it < 1557267477 34024 :rain1!~My_user_n@unaffiliated/rain1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but maybe formal logic is too strict < 1557267581 884565 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, if your program is a list of logical equations then it's order independent < 1557267586 727317 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and can be 'executed' with a SAT solver or something < 1557267590 366121 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that also has limited power < 1557267599 889351 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially if you don't include NOT (then you only have monotonic circuits) < 1557267609 954042 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monotonic circuits are an interesting complexity class < 1557267615 291707 :rain1!~My_user_n@unaffiliated/rain1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how limiting is that? I mostly worry about it being 'fragile' and failing almost all th etime < 1557267618 724333 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :for low-complexity things < 1557267621 538592 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fragilehow so < 1557267636 871641 :rain1!~My_user_n@unaffiliated/rain1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well most logical formula are unsatisfiable < 1557267637 321487 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :for basic boolean SAT, if there is a solution a SAT solver will eventually find it, or say there isn't one < 1557267645 63528 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it will never give up. never surrender. < 1557267652 902974 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(unless you put a time bound on it of course) < 1557267656 154524 :rain1!~My_user_n@unaffiliated/rain1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you probably want some characters to move even if one of the others is up against a wall (or inside a wall) and cant move < 1557267667 458753 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also if it's unsatisfiable it can find an 'unsat core' of equations that make it unsatisfiable < 1557267670 869519 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1557267678 517653 :rain1!~My_user_n@unaffiliated/rain1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow the unsat core sounds perfect < 1557267716 707977 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are lots of sat solvers, and competitions and such < 1557267720 351573 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but minisat is a good place to start < 1557267726 840358 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also if yo uhaven't seen it < 1557267731 476274 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should really check out http://alloy.lcs.mit.edu/alloy/index.html < 1557267733 809828 :rain1!~My_user_n@unaffiliated/rain1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have implemented a sat solver before < 1557267740 421142 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :awesome < 1557267751 814609 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :alloy is SAT based but adds a rich relational algebra on top of it < 1557267817 711177 :rain1!~My_user_n@unaffiliated/rain1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :/* Defines what eats what and the farmer is not around. */ < 1557267819 882204 :rain1!~My_user_n@unaffiliated/rain1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fact { eats = Fox->Chicken + Chicken->Grain} < 1557267835 77363 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah yes < 1557267840 21930 :rain1!~My_user_n@unaffiliated/rain1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is cool < 1557267840 814626 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :classic logic puzzle :) < 1557268145 462231 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :SAT solvers are TG. < 1557268156 988903 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to write one so I understand all the fancy algorithms they use. < 1557268179 193243 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1557268181 124724 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so did i < 1557268181 620172 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like CDCL and 2-watched-literal. < 1557268183 353810 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but so many projects < 1557268266 285997 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like dancing links? < 1557268271 280848 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18b98dd9.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1557268278 245902 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think so < 1557268281 339859 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I forgot how it works < 1557268438 273597 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18b98dd9.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1557268692 360966 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18b98dd9.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1557268796 565552 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-49.catv.broadband.hu QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1557268858 260169 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18b98dd9.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1557269019 252608 :tromp!~tromp@2a02:a210:1585:3200:8069:6930:80df:576f QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1557270296 777853 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-180-83.bredband.comhem.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1557270678 277834 :brandonson!~brandon@208.91.114.1 JOIN :#esoteric < 1557270906 738268 :brandonson!~brandon@208.91.114.1 QUIT :Client Quit < 1557271094 581704 :rain1!~My_user_n@unaffiliated/rain1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :its just depth first search, but implemented really efficiently i think < 1557271126 374528 :rain1!~My_user_n@unaffiliated/rain1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for the specific problem of exact cover, cause of the double linked lists < 1557271190 526585 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1557271828 123334 :tromp!~tromp@2a02:a210:1585:3200:3cf8:47:3e39:20b4 JOIN :#esoteric < 1557271890 786348 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1557271996 439738 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-180-83.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1557272028 338123 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01cb0407597a0094dbf8955c9a1889.ipv6.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1557272104 212213 :LKoen_!~LKoen@2a01cb0407597a00c46b293ab883fc0f.ipv6.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1557272109 101873 :tromp!~tromp@2a02:a210:1585:3200:3cf8:47:3e39:20b4 QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1557272188 197788 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : https://www.bergfex.com/tirol/wetter/stationen/innsbruck-flughafen/ looks like somebody fixed an HTML injection problem. :-) <-- i don't get it. < 1557272324 355317 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01cb0407597a0094dbf8955c9a1889.ipv6.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1557272385 90199 :LKoen_!~LKoen@2a01cb0407597a00c46b293ab883fc0f.ipv6.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1557272612 609394 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : mozilla has stopped giving a shit about their users <-- you know, i occasionally try to consider which browser i'll eventually switch to when i have to give up IE completely, and the main impression i seem to get about the major contenders is "they're all evil". < 1557272667 23471 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-aafuayjdxbmspfml QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1557272706 472824 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :web browsers are scow < 1557272735 210906 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm giving up on the internet < 1557272738 444854 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ham radio for life < 1557272808 5449 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` thanks Thunderbird # this was sort of anticlimactic < 1557272808 753156 :HackEso!~HackEso@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, Thunderbird. Thunderbird. < 1557272819 976078 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :how is the web such a terrible platform imo < 1557272838 742574 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: because commercial companies were allowed to use it hth < 1557272841 207730 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :same reason humans are so terrible < 1557272844 868125 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it evolved, it was not designed < 1557272854 374469 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mammals are p. great < 1557272861 381487 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and humans are way up there < 1557272869 504126 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :not above cats obviously, but p. high < 1557272927 332929 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is a mammal
< 1557272932 652884 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :lucky < 1557272957 287100 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i particularly like the feature of mammals where they're conscious entities with brains and personalities and things < 1557272982 225594 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PART :#esoteric < 1557272989 35749 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa < 1557272996 484538 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :good scaring shachaf < 1557272999 634220 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder why kmc left < 1557273021 458695 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think we depressed her < 1557273027 266237 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, probably took it as a guilt-trip-for-eating-meat thing < 1557273034 429815 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :which i wasn't even thinking of < 1557273040 117841 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :sigh < 1557273060 27746 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds like leaping to conclusions unless she's done that before < 1557273079 909948 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :we have had interactions like that in the past > 1557273081 310013 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Bitch14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=61813&oldid=61812 5* 03Salpynx 5* (+3412) 10Conjecture that bitch is NOT TC, and a specific, simpler, bit copy challenge < 1557273138 596727 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder if they'll converge to some actual answer on Bitch's computational class. i'm avoiding getting involved. > 1557273150 327414 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Bitch14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=61814&oldid=61813 5* 03Salpynx 5* (+0) 10/* Not TC Conjecture: bitch cannot copy one bit from memory to another part of memory while retaining existing data */ crucial typo fix! < 1557273190 108231 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway what i said goes for s/mammals/humans/ too < 1557273193 275459 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although it's a bit shame no one told them about ais523's idea. < 1557273209 944447 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm just marveling at the universe being so odd < 1557273304 741230 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems to me that the logical end point of vegetarianism is that we have to get our brains uploaded to computers so we can stop hurting living beings simply by existing. < 1557273318 762516 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :including, in the extreme, our own body cells. < 1557273335 437000 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :not hurting living beings simply by existing sounds p. good to me < 1557273359 10342 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i don't care about hurting my own body cells very much < 1557273372 769258 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well the question is whether _they_ care. < 1557273401 600730 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a pretty despotic regime. < 1557273425 548041 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whose question? < 1557273451 119764 :salpynx!794954f8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.121.73.84.248 JOIN :#esoteric < 1557273463 7324 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the moral question. < 1557273470 363902 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or ethical < 1557273522 465799 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it might eventually turn out elementary particles are conscious, in which case the ethics are pretty screwed. < 1557273530 167200 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reminds me of Smullyan: «I must tell you that on another occasion, my mother wanted me to do something which I didn't want to do. When I told her that I wouldn't do it, and she told me that I was being selfish, I said, "Mother, whose sake do you want me to be unselfish?"» < 1557273593 548892 :salpynx!794954f8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.121.73.84.248 PRIVMSG #esoteric :poking my head in here to ask for feedback on whether I have made any obvious mistakes with my attempt on talk:bitch to settle the endless TC quest