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00:16:52 <kmc> https://reason.com/2019/05/08/denver-just-became-the-first-u-s-city-to-decriminalize-psychedelic-mushrooms
00:16:57 <kmc> fungot: what do you think of that?
00:16:58 <fungot> kmc: wtf are you doing programming?? :p) defining an api for graphics interfaces to c libraries ( yet)
00:31:13 <esowiki> [[User talk:Oerjan]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=61850&oldid=61843 * Oerjan * (+1099) /* Turing completeness */ Answer
00:33:57 <shachaf> let's ask GPT-2
00:34:39 <shachaf> https://i.imgur.com/6wj8FB9.png
00:35:43 <shachaf> fungot: you're being replaced by robots
00:35:43 <fungot> shachaf: is there on your cf if i may ask
00:43:54 <esowiki> [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * Odog8 * New user account
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02:30:44 <salpynx> A's qn re human involvement has given me an idea for an appropriately joke TC variant of bitch: the User MUST act as an unbounded stack for the program. Output is PUSH, Input is POP. bitch handles one stack, and bitwise operations, the user is the other stack.
02:33:18 <salpynx> now I'm wondering if the entire language was a setup for this joke. bitch is TC when bitch is you.
02:33:37 <salpynx> (sorry baba)
02:34:27 <ais523> hmm, that's the same computational class as Wiki Cyclic Tag I think
02:34:47 <ais523> (TC if a human repeatedly gives enters the program's output back as input to the program, not otherwise)
02:35:22 <ais523> Wiki Cyclic Tag's main issue is the lack of any sort of loop, so the human output→input copying is needed both to introduce a loop, and to retain state between loop iterations
03:09:22 <salpynx> interesting, I had heard of WIki Cyclic Tag but didn't realise it used that trick. I was thinking of the css + html "Turing completeness proof" that required user input to transition states, which I thought was controversial, but seems slightly different
03:10:43 <salpynx> hmm, maybe that is an equivalent trick, but more indirect
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04:02:39 <esowiki> [[Talk:Bitch]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=61851&oldid=61849 * A * (+293) /* Not TC Conjecture: bitch cannot copy one bit from memory to another part of memory while retaining existing data */
04:03:06 <esowiki> [[Talk:Bitch]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=61852&oldid=61851 * A * (-26) /* Not TC Conjecture: bitch cannot copy one bit from memory to another part of memory while retaining existing data */
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04:46:03 <shachaf> NetHack is deprecating OS/2?!
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05:15:29 <imode> O_O
05:43:03 <esowiki> [[Talk:Bitch]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=61853&oldid=61852 * Int-e * (+1067) /* Not TC Conjecture [...] */ a solution
05:51:08 <oerjan> int-e: ok so chained instructions do _not_ modify the accumulator? that was the main thing i was confused about.
05:51:29 <int-e> according to the Java interpreter, yes, they don't.
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10:53:03 <esowiki> [[Talk:Bitch]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=61854&oldid=61853 * A * (+218) /* Not TC Conjecture: bitch cannot copy one bit from memory to another part of memory while retaining existing data */
10:54:09 <esowiki> [[Talk:Bitch]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=61855&oldid=61854 * A * (+38) /* Not TC Conjecture: bitch cannot copy one bit from memory to another part of memory while retaining existing data */
10:55:17 <esowiki> [[Talk:Bitch]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=61856&oldid=61855 * A * (+66) /* Not TC Conjecture: bitch cannot copy one bit from memory to another part of memory while retaining existing data */
10:55:56 <esowiki> [[Talk:Bitch]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=61857&oldid=61856 * A * (+5) /* Not TC Conjecture: bitch cannot copy one bit from memory to another part of memory while retaining existing data */
11:00:03 <esowiki> [[Talk:Bitch]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=61858&oldid=61857 * A * (-521) /* What bitch surpasses */
11:00:15 <esowiki> [[Talk:Bitch]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=61859&oldid=61858 * A * (-452) /* Proof that bitch is a non-looping finite state automaton */
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11:07:37 <esowiki> [[Talk:Bitch]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=61860&oldid=61859 * A * (-228) Make the talk page significantly shorter (leaving only the PDA proofs uncommented)
11:09:22 <esowiki> [[Talk:Bitch]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=61861&oldid=61860 * A * (-17270) *MWHAHAHA* delete the attempts of proving TC
11:09:41 <esowiki> [[Talk:Bitch]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=61862&oldid=61861 * A * (-492) /* Trivial proofs */
11:10:45 <esowiki> [[Talk:Bitch]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=61863&oldid=61862 * A * (+4) /* Attempts at proving the computational class */
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11:15:05 <esowiki> [[Talk:Bitch]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=61864&oldid=61863 * A * (-372)
11:16:19 <esowiki> [[Talk:Bitch]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=61865&oldid=61864 * A * (-314)
11:17:03 <esowiki> [[Talk:Bitch]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=61866&oldid=61865 * A * (+2) /* Not TC Conjecture: bitch cannot copy one bit from memory to another part of memory while retaining existing data */
11:18:42 <esowiki> [[Bitch]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=61867&oldid=61846 * A * (+548) Move the proof to the main page to delete another section in the talk page
11:19:11 <esowiki> [[Talk:Bitch]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=61868&oldid=61866 * A * (-637) Delete another section (it is definitely easy to follow now)
11:26:17 <esowiki> [[Talk:Bitch]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=61869&oldid=61868 * A * (-47) /* Some thoughts */
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11:32:48 <esowiki> [[Back]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=61870 * A * (+429) Created page with "[[Back]] is a [[Fungeoid]] that can reflect back to the program when the program counter went out of bounds. ==Syntax== {| class="wikitable" border="1" |- | \ | Reflect the di..."
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11:37:18 <esowiki> [[Back]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=61871&oldid=61870 * A * (+589)
11:38:56 <esowiki> [[Back]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=61872&oldid=61871 * A * (+224) /* Syntax */
11:40:10 <esowiki> [[Back]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=61873&oldid=61872 * A * (+85) /* Reflection */
11:44:02 <esowiki> [[Back]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=61874&oldid=61873 * A * (+251)
11:44:26 <esowiki> [[Back]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=61875&oldid=61874 * A * (-1) grm
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11:57:49 <wob_jonas> ais523: you may have seen this article already: https://arxiv.org/abs/1904.09828 Alex Churchill, Stella Biderman, Austin Herrick "Magic: The Gathering is Turing Complete"
12:00:48 <esowiki> [[Talk:StackFlow]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=61876&oldid=54283 * B jonas * (+139)
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12:35:11 <esowiki> [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=61877&oldid=61848 * Odog8 * (+217)
12:36:56 <esowiki> [[User talk:Odog8]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=61878 * Odog8 * (+94) Created page with "Hey, I'm a dude learning Befunge & ><>. I'm working on a variety of dead community projects..."
12:47:03 <esowiki> [[Turing Machine But Way Worse]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=61879 * RealUndefined * (+455) Created page with "'''Turing Machine But Way Worse''' is a programming language made by a code golf user [https://codegolf.stackexchange.com/users/83048/milkyway90 MilkyWay90]. It is based on Tu..."
12:47:22 <esowiki> [[Turing Machine But Way Worse]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=61880&oldid=61879 * RealUndefined * (+1)
12:48:32 <esowiki> [[Turing Machine But Way Worse]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=61881&oldid=61880 * RealUndefined * (+0)
12:48:41 <esowiki> [[Turing Machine But Way Worse]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=61882&oldid=61881 * RealUndefined * (-5)
12:49:12 <esowiki> [[Turing Machine But Way Worse]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=61883&oldid=61882 * RealUndefined * (+1) there
12:50:19 <esowiki> [[Turing Machine But Way Worse]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=61884&oldid=61883 * RealUndefined * (+54) add more categories
12:52:27 <esowiki> [[Language list]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=61885&oldid=61584 * RealUndefined * (+35) /* T */ add TMBWW
12:59:58 <esowiki> [[Turing Machine But Way Worse]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=61886&oldid=61884 * RealUndefined * (+1727)
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13:04:55 <esowiki> [[Turing Machine But Way Worse]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=61887&oldid=61886 * RealUndefined * (-29)
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13:52:35 <int-e> Sigh, A isn't very clever.
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17:07:50 <esowiki> [[Talk:Bitch]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=61888&oldid=61869 * Int-e * (+196)
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17:40:35 <esowiki> [[RarVM]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=61889&oldid=61832 * Void * (+46) /* Implementations */
17:41:59 <esowiki> [[Talk:Bitch]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=61890&oldid=61888 * Int-e * (+3033) Sketch: RAM
17:44:35 <esowiki> [[Talk:Bitch]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=61891&oldid=61890 * Int-e * (+637) Undo revision 61868 by [[Special:Contributions/A|A]] ([[User talk:A|talk]]) -- putting alleged proof back where it belongs
17:44:53 <esowiki> [[Bitch]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=61892&oldid=61867 * Int-e * (-548) Undo revision 61867 by [[Special:Contributions/A|A]] ([[User talk:A|talk]]) -- putting alleged proof back where it belongs
17:47:36 <esowiki> [[Talk:Bitch]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=61893&oldid=61891 * Int-e * (+301) /* Proof that the Halting problem is trivial in bitch */
17:54:48 <b_jonas> ais523: hehe, their construction uses *both* Rotlung Reanimator and Xathrid Necromancer
17:59:21 <b_jonas> wtf
18:03:18 <b_jonas> they say they use Cleansing Beam to put +1/+1 counters, but that makes no sense, Cleansing Beam doesn't do that
18:04:54 <b_jonas> their construction spans multiple turns, a few turns per each step of the simulated machine. we figured that wasn't practical. their trick for that is Wild Evocation
18:05:00 <b_jonas> `card-by-name Wild Evocation
18:05:01 <HackEso> Wild Evocation \ 5R \ Enchantment \ At the beginning of each player's upkeep, that player reveals a card at random from their hand. If it's a land card, the player puts it onto the battlefield. Otherwise, the player casts it without paying its mana cost if able. \ M11-R
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18:07:34 <b_jonas> `card-by-name Choke
18:07:35 <HackEso> Choke \ 2G \ Enchantment \ Islands don't untap during their controllers' untap steps. \ TE-U, 8ED-U, MPS_AKH-S \ \ Choked Estuary \ Land \ As Choked Estuary enters the battlefield, you may reveal an Island or Swamp card from your hand. If you don't, Choked Estuary enters the battlefield tapped. \ {T}: Add {U} or {B}. \ SOI-R
18:07:46 <b_jonas> ^ what the heck kind of unbalanced card is that?
18:07:56 <b_jonas> where's the cumulative upkeep?
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18:18:42 <b_jonas> ah no
18:18:46 <b_jonas> Cleansing Beam is right
18:18:51 <b_jonas> they explain how so later
18:20:02 <b_jonas> the damage is replaced by Vigor, one of the incarnations from Lorwyn
19:24:22 <esowiki> [[Talk:Bitch]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=61894&oldid=61893 * Helen * (+1205) /* Not TC Conjecture: bitch cannot copy one bit from memory to another part of memory while retaining existing data */ The conjecture is false
19:24:44 <kmc> bitch is you
19:24:53 <kmc> fungot is love
19:24:54 <fungot> kmc: call by name/ call by value. ( you forgot what it was
19:25:22 <kmc> love is empty, love is defeat, love is win
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19:41:30 <kmc> love is scow
19:42:06 <rain1> love is love
19:48:40 <kmc> rain1: I am coincidentally wearing a shirt which says exactly that! https://i.imgur.com/0M29zns.jpg
19:48:53 <kmc> it is one of the gayer shirts I own
19:49:03 <rain1> wow!!
19:49:10 <rain1> nice one
19:49:28 <kmc> ty
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19:51:38 <b_jonas> oh nice
19:52:28 <kmc> ty
19:53:22 <kmc> other rather gay shirts https://imgur.com/a/S3ZfJll
19:53:47 * kmc will take any excuse to post selfies, which is a bit of a departure from hating nearly every photo of her for the first ~30 years of life
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20:30:14 <b_jonas> ais523: anyway, if you haven't yet seen that article, I recommend that you take a look
20:50:25 <int-e> Oh, A had deleted a lot of things from that talk page... not limited to their own contributions. :-(
20:53:59 <b_jonas> also, it's time for a new o now.
20:56:29 <b_jonas> oh hey, look at that
20:56:36 <b_jonas> `ehlist http://eheroes.smackjeeves.com/comics/2789913/good-question/
20:56:37 <HackEso> ehlist http://eheroes.smackjeeves.com/comics/2789913/good-question/: b_jonas
20:56:54 <int-e> . o O ( what's the point in singleton lists )
20:58:30 <b_jonas> int-e: (1) without such a list, two people who would want a list for the same thing each wouldn't be able to guess that there's another person who wants such a list, and (2) people can grep for it in the logs or have their irc client ping them even if their nickname isn't added
20:58:48 <b_jonas> or they can, you know, just read the channel
20:59:25 <b_jonas> also lets me advertise good comics, same as larger lists
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21:10:34 <esowiki> [[Talk:Bitch]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=61895&oldid=61894 * Int-e * (+303) /* Not TC Conjecture: bitch cannot copy one bit from memory to another part of memory while retaining existing data */ comment on deleted section...
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