< 1557705787 651110 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.201.114 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1557706148 229326 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-213.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you connect a Raspberry Pi computer to a PC by the use of a RS-232 port? < 1557707762 310890 :unlimiter!~unlimiter@105.158.19.240 JOIN :#esoteric < 1557707811 792478 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :IIRC, it has the usual low-voltage serial port thing, one that uses 0V/3.3V logic levels. < 1557707828 188273 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you would need a little bit of electronics if you wanted to convert it to RS-232. < 1557707878 19535 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I've used a USB serial cable to talk to a Raspberry Pi.) < 1557708178 301741 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(One of those that provide 3.3V level serial pins, like https://www.adafruit.com/product/954 ) < 1557709022 996476 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :correct < 1557709037 949250 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or you could add a full voltage USB to RS-232 adapter to the RPi < 1557709195 193401 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is my rpi project today https://imgur.com/a/HqtqGJd < 1557709208 85667 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugly, but it will go in a box < 1557709238 937815 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it connects to a HF radio and can be used to send/receive digital messages < 1557709253 444886 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :includes a GPS receiver for time synchronization < 1557709261 199801 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a little eink status display < 1557709323 134645 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I broke the SD card slot in my RPi. :/ < 1557709363 516970 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :F < 1557709364 370678 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how? < 1557709612 785253 :unlimiter!~unlimiter@105.158.19.240 QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 2.4 < 1557709615 985690 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't quite remember what I was doing. It's probably broken in a fixable way, since it still works if I push down on the card. Just some of the plastic bits broke off. < 1557709704 777399 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Haven't looked into it more since I don't actually have any specific use for the thing.) < 1557711584 313393 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-213.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I added a option into ffpng to try to optimize transparent pixels (add "t1" as a command-line argument). You may wish to use ff-transopt first, though. < 1557711712 714910 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I got a Pi Zero W for $5 the other day < 1557711717 807827 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Microcenter has an ongoing deal for them < 1557711737 420809 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no use for it just yet, but I think I will come up with something soon < 1557711744 369851 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :weird thing is, they were selling the non-wifi version for the same price < 1557711755 537095 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know of any advantage of the non-wifi model < 1557711781 969454 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is kind of silly to spend $5 on a computer and then rightaway more than that on a USB wifi adapter and an OTG cable < 1557711824 879850 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was going to write a fancy synthesizer and run it on a Raspberry Pi. < 1557711843 684717 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But then the fancy synthesizer part turned out to be the main tricky part so I haven't gotten around to the second bit yet. < 1557711980 83881 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's a good way to make APIs forward-compatible? < 1557712009 890507 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hear Windows passes a struct whose first member is its sizeof, so they can grow it later. < 1557712014 944469 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like this? < 1557712082 879646 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-213.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :For some uses, that can help. SQLite instead puts a version number at first in a struct, rather than its size. < 1557712461 808960 :tromp!~tromp@2a02:a210:1585:3200:5c60:6276:ccb:3f73 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1557712930 435834 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: protos for APIs twh hth hand < 1557713083 882 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: dth < 1557713165 147756 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe just make everything talk to everything else over gRPC. < 1557713219 70372 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :should system calls take protos < 1557713227 930103 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the only reasonable thing to do < 1557713365 465890 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh no, template int foo(T) { return 5; } doesn't correctly specialize to int foo(void) { return 5; } < 1557713770 310936 :j4cbo!sid186930@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jvuunpjzubdepftz PRIVMSG #esoteric :the thing of (void) meaning a 0-ary function is strictly C not C++ < 1557713920 678159 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought it was valid C++, just not required like in C? < 1557713939 196376 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-213.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does it not work in C++? Whether or not it works, I suppose that still it can make sense it doesn't specialize, since it is a different kind of notation. < 1557713946 200363 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Anyway obviously it would be terrible if that specialization actually happened. But, y'know.) < 1557714443 994765 :unlimiter!~unlimiter@105.158.19.240 JOIN :#esoteric < 1557714950 311932 :tromp!~tromp@2a02:a210:1585:3200:5113:8fe3:aceb:a4a1 JOIN :#esoteric < 1557715068 356378 :unlimiter!~unlimiter@105.158.19.240 QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 2.4 < 1557715228 316701 :tromp!~tromp@2a02:a210:1585:3200:5113:8fe3:aceb:a4a1 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1557716371 157407 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT : < 1557716400 718151 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org QUIT :Quit: I seem to have stopped. < 1557716491 203595 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1557718862 668193 :zemhill_______!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :web.a: points -46.00, score 0.00, rank 47/47 (-35) < 1557720280 68187 :tromp!~tromp@2a02:a210:1585:3200:5113:8fe3:aceb:a4a1 JOIN :#esoteric > 1557720352 293 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Bitch14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=62121&oldid=62110 5* 03A 5* (+7) 10Remove a section that is completely useless < 1557720540 50455 :tromp!~tromp@2a02:a210:1585:3200:5113:8fe3:aceb:a4a1 QUIT :Ping timeout: 257 seconds < 1557724016 619424 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-213.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wrote a document describing how I would want to improve the rules of Magic: the Gathering < 1557724031 505718 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Didn't you write one a long time ago? < 1557724097 490735 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-213.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I did write some things before, but now I put a lot of things together, and also request comments < 1557724109 891148 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-213.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(if there are any comments) < 1557724680 172007 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-213.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :They should implement in some NNTP client software, options for use with Unusenet. (It still works without, but they may be options you want to enable or disable; if used with Usenet, those options would have no effect.) < 1557726759 485089 :tromp!~tromp@ip-213-127-56-81.ip.prioritytelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1557727022 393152 :tromp!~tromp@ip-213-127-56-81.ip.prioritytelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1557727936 269635 :MDude!~MDude@c-174-55-125-31.hsd1.pa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1557729271 998123 :S_Gautam!uid286066@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-uyisxulsxkgdgabm JOIN :#esoteric < 1557729570 860495 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-213.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Make up a Aura enchantment with four abilities (and no others): enchant permanent, persist, undying, and afterlife 2. How much mana cost would it be worth? < 1557730322 939593 :Frater_EST!~adrianbib@wsip-68-15-198-210.ok.ok.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1557731018 511620 :tromp!~tromp@ip-213-127-56-81.ip.prioritytelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1557731118 526346 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-82l26zfnlgwh4k4ewtw.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1557731269 764081 :Frater_EST!~adrianbib@wsip-68-15-198-210.ok.ok.cox.net PART :#esoteric < 1557733708 492369 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b98dd9.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1557733734 865025 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b98dd9.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1557735202 773848 :tromp!~tromp@ip-213-127-56-81.ip.prioritytelecom.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1557736189 312312 :tromp!~tromp@2a02:a210:1585:3200:5113:8fe3:aceb:a4a1 JOIN :#esoteric < 1557742413 263859 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.201.114 JOIN :#esoteric > 1557742488 634333 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Bitch14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=62122&oldid=62121 5* 03A 5* (+352) 10/* Sketch: A RAM Machine */ > 1557742530 768923 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Bitch14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=62123&oldid=62122 5* 03A 5* (+37) 10 < 1557744852 995229 :S_Gautam!uid286066@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-uyisxulsxkgdgabm QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1557745418 260517 :RSPKT6637!~qa4adf471@180.red-88-16-225.dynamicip.rima-tde.net JOIN :#esoteric > 1557747079 403329 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07UnreadabIe14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=62124 5* 03A 5* (+239) 10Created page with "[[UnreadabIe]] is an [[esoteric programming language]] made by [[User:A]]. It is a substitution of [[Unreadable]]. (" is substituted by .) Catego..." > 1557747230 84972 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07UnreadabIe14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=62125&oldid=62124 5* 03A 5* (+968) 10 < 1557747481 424158 :RSPKT6637!~qa4adf471@180.red-88-16-225.dynamicip.rima-tde.net QUIT : < 1557747490 446161 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 JOIN :#esoteric < 1557747519 107555 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1557747637 987361 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 NICK :Lord_of_Life > 1557747735 582370 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Bitch14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=62126&oldid=62123 5* 03A 5* (+267) 10/* Operations */ > 1557747877 856236 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Bitch14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=62127&oldid=62126 5* 03A 5* (+322) 10/* Operations */ < 1557748040 828108 :westonian!8ea78f5a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.142.167.143.90 JOIN :#esoteric > 1557748083 461546 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Bitch14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=62128&oldid=62127 5* 03A 5* (+170) 10/* Operations */ > 1557748224 767346 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Bitch14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=62129&oldid=62128 5* 03A 5* (+145) 10/* Sketch: A Stack Machine */ > 1557748309 908429 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Bitch14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=62130&oldid=62129 5* 03A 5* (+123) 10/* Operations */ > 1557748368 430466 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Bitch14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=62131&oldid=62130 5* 03A 5* (+14) 10/* Operations */ > 1557748457 229982 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Bitch14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=62132&oldid=62131 5* 03A 5* (+111) 10/* Sketch: A Stack Machine */ < 1557749166 316937 :zemhill_______!bfjoust@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :westonian.Sookie: points 7.90, score 47.20, rank 1/47 < 1557749713 106774 :westonian!8ea78f5a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.142.167.143.90 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi all, Sookie is just 136 characters of pure BF, no shorthand. Don't know if anyone's sill interested in playing BFJoust, but if they are, game on. < 1557750857 464702 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :westonian: I think you have a good chance of attracting some discussion if you stay around a bit < 1557750937 774741 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the channel tends to be active in the evenings, european time, so maybe 4 hours from now.) < 1557751067 181534 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :westonian: did you write this by hand or did you use any automatic approach like genetic programming or the like? < 1557751613 118048 :westonian!8ea78f5a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.142.167.143.90 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1557751631 725370 :danieljabailey!~danieljab@cpc115608-york6-2-0-cust168.7-1.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Quit: ZNC 1.6.6+deb1ubuntu0.1 - http://znc.in < 1557751817 682689 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess we'll never know < 1557751861 934108 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm it's the best I could do. Maybe they'll be back. > 1557751904 268045 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Compose14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=62133&oldid=62111 5* 03YamTokTpaFa 5* (+24) 10+CAT (this IS about the language: ADD INTO [[:Category:Languages]] please) < 1557752199 395280 :gerzytet_!~gerzytet@71.214.80.128 JOIN :#esoteric < 1557752199 629980 :gerzytet!~gerzytet@71.214.80.128 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1557753229 592511 :Frater_EST!~adrianbib@wsip-68-15-198-210.ok.ok.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1557753260 471671 :Frater_EST!~adrianbib@wsip-68-15-198-210.ok.ok.cox.net PART :#esoteric > 1557756322 212982 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Bitch14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=62134&oldid=62132 5* 03A 5* (+447) 10/* Sketch: A Stack Machine */ > 1557756539 393766 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Bitch14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=62135&oldid=62134 5* 03A 5* (+5) 10Failed attempt again > 1557757334 357066 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Bitch14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=62136&oldid=62135 5* 03A 5* (+380) 10Inform that there are still more computational models out there. > 1557757387 65189 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Bitch14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=62137&oldid=62136 5* 03A 5* (+32) 10/* Bitch might be Turing-incomplete */ > 1557757905 499730 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Bitch14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=62138&oldid=62109 5* 03A 5* (-69) 10 > 1557758065 244339 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Bitch14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=62139&oldid=62138 5* 03A 5* (+197) 10 > 1557758159 855317 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Bitch14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=62140&oldid=62139 5* 03A 5* (+8) 10Specify syntax error instruction set > 1557758341 418081 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Bitch14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=62141&oldid=62140 5* 03A 5* (+54) 10Copy your programs for you > 1557758449 599796 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Bitch14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=62142&oldid=62141 5* 03A 5* (+25) 10/* Cat program */ > 1557758746 35954 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Bitch14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=62143&oldid=62142 5* 03A 5* (+227) 10/* Possible */ < 1557760335 862423 :unlimiter!~unlimiter@160.177.19.8 JOIN :#esoteric < 1557760574 838338 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1557761232 313672 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1557762733 756149 :unlimiter!~unlimiter@160.177.19.8 QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 2.4 < 1557765198 322377 :moei!~moei@softbank221078042071.bbtec.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1557766893 298069 :orin!~oren@ec2-18-212-11-99.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hate c++ < 1557766933 136247 :orin!~oren@ec2-18-212-11-99.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you know that the anonymous function [&](){/*...*/} is guaranteed nothrow? < 1557766944 479534 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, why is that < 1557767409 722654 :orin!~oren@ec2-18-212-11-99.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, apparently it isn't in the test case < 1557767733 499767 :orin!~oren@ec2-18-212-11-99.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :int main () {std::thread foo([&](){throw std::runtime_error("argh!");}); foo.join();} < 1557767762 564829 :orin!~oren@ec2-18-212-11-99.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this ends with a segmentation fault, not with calling std::terminate < 1557767775 962155 :orin!~oren@ec2-18-212-11-99.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why? < 1557767779 988881 :orin!~oren@ec2-18-212-11-99.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :whyyyyyyy > 1557767815 414773 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Bitch14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=62144&oldid=62137 5* 03Helen 5* (-5) 10/* [Unsuccessful] Equivalency between bitch and Home Row by User:Helen */ I'm still working on it silently behind the scenes :) > 1557767889 360799 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Bitch14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=62145&oldid=62144 5* 03Helen 5* (+168) 10/* The compilation probably failed */ < 1557768257 668812 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not for me: http://ix.io/1IXs < 1557768278 671477 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Sorry for the indentation though.) < 1557768427 587557 :orin!~oren@ec2-18-212-11-99.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks fizzie < 1557768428 944402 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, fizzie. Thizzie. < 1557768459 226157 :orin!~oren@ec2-18-212-11-99.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :That helps, I just have to avoid having any unhandled exceptions inside my threads < 1557768559 310703 :orin!~oren@ec2-18-212-11-99.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or convince people to get a more recent compiler? < 1557768576 572604 :orin!~oren@ec2-18-212-11-99.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :g++ (GCC) 4.9.2 20150212 (Red Hat 4.9.2-6) < 1557768617 881453 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( I wonder at what point any sequence of the special characters []{}&^%$#*+-/<>= will be valid C++ ) < 1557768628 161659 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh and () < 1557769342 955377 :atslash!~atslash@static.231.107.9.5.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1557769677 112931 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01cb0407597a002055e3fc42e63ccd.ipv6.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1557769943 650374 :sebbu3!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1557769944 341137 :atslash!~atslash@static.231.107.9.5.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1557770170 845250 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds > 1557772229 302885 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07WebFuck14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=62146 5* 03Mipinggfxgbtftybfhfyhfn 5* (+673) 10Created page with "'''WebFuck''' is a [[Brainfuck]] created by [[User:Mipinggfxgbtftybfhfyhfn]] extencion that can be used in frontend web development. ==Commands== {| class="wikitable" |- ! Com..." > 1557772724 596698 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07WebFuck14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=62147&oldid=62146 5* 03Mipinggfxgbtftybfhfyhfn 5* (+432) 10 > 1557772841 366326 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07WebFuck14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=62148&oldid=62147 5* 03Mipinggfxgbtftybfhfyhfn 5* (+17) 10/* Selectors */ < 1557773701 444799 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you know that exceptions are scow < 1557773708 899849 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :everyone knows that < 1557773713 158652 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's why we need herbceptions < 1557773744 53356 :rain1!~My_user_n@unaffiliated/rain1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey < 1557774223 78034 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`olist 1163 < 1557774224 135806 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olist 1163: shachaf oerjan Sgeo FireFly boily nortti b_jonas < 1557776241 667615 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1557776350 358967 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01cb0407597a002055e3fc42e63ccd.ipv6.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Read error: No route to host < 1557776434 833695 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01cb0407597a00317402dc1181edaa.ipv6.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric > 1557777096 416824 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07WebFuck14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=62149&oldid=62148 5* 03Mipinggfxgbtftybfhfyhfn 5* (+440) 10 > 1557777307 96583 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Small14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=62150&oldid=55704 5* 03Get52 5* (+8) 10my old website is down currently, putting a temporary link here < 1557777677 349373 :unlimiter!~unlimiter@160.177.19.8 JOIN :#esoteric < 1557779127 528630 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@ptr-82l26zfnlgwh4k4ewtw.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1557779509 199297 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01cb0407597a00317402dc1181edaa.ipv6.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Quit: “It’s only logical. First you learn to talk, then you learn to think. Too bad it’s not the other way round.” < 1557780807 776482 :unlimiter!~unlimiter@160.177.19.8 QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 2.4 < 1557781647 380740 :j-bot!eldis4@firefly.nu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1557781658 255210 :j-bot!eldis4@firefly.nu JOIN :#esoteric < 1557783304 645651 :unlimiter!~unlimiter@160.177.19.8 JOIN :#esoteric < 1557784195 229812 :sebbu3!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu NICK :sebbu < 1557786398 983546 :unlimiter!~unlimiter@160.177.19.8 QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 2.4 > 1557787394 94141 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07WebFuck14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=62151&oldid=62149 5* 03Mipinggfxgbtftybfhfyhfn 5* (-1562) 10Blanked the page < 1557787646 124062 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What mechanism should I use for error handling? < 1557787654 941151 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :denial < 1557787691 206505 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds a lot like exceptions tdnh < 1557787713 939095 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then maybe hope instead. < 1557787734 482413 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, at least it's not errno < 1557787756 248580 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do you think of the Zig error set type? https://ziglang.org/documentation/master/#Errors < 1557787762 83823 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I meant to say "Do you like this?". < 1557787871 498821 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess one question is, should errors be more than an integer? < 1557787902 773122 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :If they have strings or some arbitrary-length data then you might need to worry about memory management for them which is scow. < 1557788496 999172 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:995f:fb71:644f:8715:a169:9456 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's scow about that? < 1557788515 887066 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Worrying about memory management? < 1557788536 707804 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's pretty complicated, is all, compared to just returning an integer or something. < 1557788563 12779 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:995f:fb71:644f:8715:a169:9456 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If memory management is annoying, isn't that memory management's fault? < 1557788602 401925 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, my program is running on a computer with physical. That's a little bit annoying compared to an abstract Turing machine or whatever, but that's how it is. < 1557788627 132470 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :physical hardware < 1557788632 640970 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: <3 < 1557788650 484441 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:995f:fb71:644f:8715:a169:9456 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, you're still using *physical* hardware < 1557788653 283179 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi int-e < 1557788656 66974 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: (for that reply) < 1557788661 831452 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1557788676 138900 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, in practice I've mostly been using denial. < 1557788682 891783 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's maybe not so bad. < 1557788698 704457 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b98dd9.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1557788722 479347 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( obligatory fun (but completely unoriginal) pun: denial is a big river in India. ) < 1557788722 973877 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b98dd9.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1557788750 713197 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, which denial are *you* talking about? < 1557788785 192289 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I deny talking about denial. < 1557789595 266492 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.201.114 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1557790573 927 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 JOIN :#esoteric < 1557790750 243796 :john_metcalf!~digital_w@host86-167-209-202.range86-167.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1557790756 700586 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1557790758 714077 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 NICK :Lord_of_Life < 1557791137 90160 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1557791542 213468 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know how you type `reset` and the terminal gets reset but it takes a long time? < 1557791566 310756 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you know it's spending that time doing sleep(1);? < 1557791639 22830 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1557791648 271941 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably because some old terminal needs time to reset? < 1557791655 840460 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably. < 1557791663 555127 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And now we all suffer the consequences. < 1557791684 538828 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever < 1557791687 594827 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :patch it if you don't like it < 1557791701 821790 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i will < 1557791705 696164 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1557791706 356465 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :just don't mess up your terminal in the first place ;-) < 1557791717 514669 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i rewrote /usr/bin/time because i didn't like it < 1557791720 387054 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh? < 1557791721 790725 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and some other commands < 1557791738 387907 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wish i could rewrite all the things i don't like in my life < 1557791741 14125 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :now life is much better < 1557791742 14181 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like me < 1557791792 391315 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could rewrite more cats into your life imo < 1557791835 173331 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cat cat cat < 1557791836 112867 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: cat: No such file or directory \ cat: cat: No such file or directory < 1557791840 663399 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :aww. < 1557791853 717898 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? cat < 1557791854 924636 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cats are cool, but should be illegal. < 1557791907 813548 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://slbkbs.org/tmp/tym.png < 1557791920 256192 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't get output like this out of a regular /usr/bin/time < 1557791927 119996 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you gotta get artisanal handcrafted software < 1557791936 354363 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't have a cat here < 1557791941 871747 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :apartment is not cat proof < 1557791958 358874 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: did you write it from scratch or modify /usr/bin/time < 1557791963 44519 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat-proof - didn't parse. < 1557791965 433695 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wrote it from scratch < 1557791983 134381 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :cats know everything about doing things "from scratch" < 1557791991 903306 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like that you didn't have the patience to wait 1 second for the demo