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The next pieces can be viewed with `spam. See also `2. Confusingly the obvious generalization of `4. 08:51:56 `dowg 1 08:51:58 10086:2017-01-02 revert \ 10085:2017-01-02 learn 1 divided by 1 is 0 \ 5224:2015-01-02 learn The 1 is just for disambiguation. \ 5223:2015-01-02 learn 1 is just for disambiguation. 08:52:21 oerjan: What's that all about? 08:52:59 `? 2 08:53:00 ​`2 is equivalent to `1 , except that it starts displaying the _second_ output piece. Useful when you've already run a command forgetting to use `1. 08:55:09 shachaf: funny, that one is partly my fault. https://esolangs.org/logs/2015-01-02.html#lAi 08:56:33 I see. 08:56:47 In the case of Star Wars, 4 is just for disambiguation? 08:57:19 -!- wob_jonas has joined. 08:57:33 tswett[m]: somehow I don't think "boop" is the appropriate sound effect for that 08:59:57 `2019 08:59:58 ​/srv/hackeso-code/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: 2019: not found 09:00:40 Oh that tradition died last year already. 09:03:00 `cbt 2017 09:03:01 ​#!/bin/sh \ if [ $(date +%Y) = "$(basename "$0")" ] \ then echo "Hello, world!" \ fi 09:03:49 `` hbrl cbt # do we have this? 09:03:50 ​/hackenv/bin/`: line 5: hbrl: command not found 09:04:29 `` cwt oerjan # and this would be a silly name for `? 09:04:30 ​/hackenv/bin/`: line 5: cwt: command not found 09:05:18 HackEsonese is an interesing sh dialect 09:05:49 . o O ( cat by tail ) 09:06:30 beats the other two expansions of CBT that I've enountered 09:07:23 chicken, bacon, tuna 09:21:00 Is wisdom/oerjan the canonical wisdom or something? 09:21:10 FireFly: HireFly 09:21:32 -!- nfd9001 has joined. 09:22:58 [[Backshift]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=63419&oldid=63418 * Salpynx * (+844) 'Hello World' in a sort algorithm... Bogosort can't do that! 09:31:22 [[Talk:Backshift]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=63420&oldid=63416 * Salpynx * (+787) sharing more code 09:51:16 Today is June 13th. It's Pigeon Appreciation Day. 09:57:59 The pigeon hole principle: In order to find the number of pigeons, count the pigeon holes, then add 1. 09:59:33 @wn pigeon 09:59:34 *** "pigeon" wn "WordNet (r) 3.0 (2006)" 09:59:35 pigeon 09:59:35 n 1: wild and domesticated birds having a heavy body and short 09:59:35 legs 09:59:37 Not a very flattering description. 09:59:52 @devils pigeon 09:59:53 No match for "pigeon". 09:59:56 :( 10:00:03 @devils lawyer 10:00:04 *** "lawyer" devil "The Devil's Dictionary (1881-1906)" 10:00:04 LAWYER, n. One skilled in circumvention of the law. 10:00:04 10:00:24 @devils law 10:00:25 *** "law" devil "The Devil's Dictionary (1881-1906)" 10:00:25 LAW, n. 10:00:25 10:00:25 Once Law was sitting on the bench, 10:00:25 And Mercy knelt a-weeping. 10:00:26 [[Backshift]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=63421&oldid=63419 * A * (-160) /* Test */ 10:00:27 [13 @more lines] 10:00:34 @devils cat 10:00:35 *** "cat" devil "The Devil's Dictionary (1881-1906)" 10:00:35 CAT, n. A soft, indestructible automaton provided by nature to be 10:00:35 kicked when things go wrong in the domestic circle. 10:00:35 10:00:37 This is a dog, 10:00:39 [7 @more lines] 10:00:46 So many @more lines. 10:01:08 @devils wife 10:01:09 No match for "wife". 10:01:26 [[Backshift]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=63422&oldid=63421 * A * (+66) 10:02:07 [[Backshift]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=63423&oldid=63422 * A * (+82) 10:07:46 [[Talk:Backshift]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=63424&oldid=63420 * A * (+271) 10:11:37 [[Talk:Backshift]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=63425&oldid=63424 * A * (+82) /* Add a characteristic due to the Unary Sorting issue */ 10:11:57 [[Talk:Backshift]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=63426&oldid=63425 * A * (+0) /* Add a characteristic due to the Unary Sorting issue */ 10:15:47 [[Backshift]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=63427&oldid=63423 * A * (+106) 10:20:13 [[Backshift]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=63428&oldid=63427 * A * (+107) TM 10:24:40 [[Backshift]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=63429&oldid=63428 * A * (-70) /* Truth-machine */ 10:25:36 [[Backshift]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=63430&oldid=63429 * A * (+71) /* Inverse Truth-machine */ 10:26:24 [[Backshift]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=63431&oldid=63430 * A * (+18) 10:31:03 [[Backshift]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=63432&oldid=63431 * A * (+2) /* Truth-machine */ 10:36:17 -!- tuxcrafting has joined. 10:36:19 [[Talk:Backshift]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=63433&oldid=63426 * A * (-353) /* Add a characteristic due to the Unary Sorting issue */ No, due to considerations for short code 10:46:54 -!- xkapastel has joined. 11:07:12 [[Backshift]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=63434&oldid=63432 * A * (+0) 11:11:24 [[Talk:Backshift]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=63435&oldid=63433 * A * (+315) /* Modified version of the removed code from the main page */ 11:13:12 [[Talk:Backshift]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=63436&oldid=63435 * A * (+77) /* Computational class */ SIgn 11:15:22 [[Backshift]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=63437&oldid=63434 * A * (-3) /* Examples */ 11:17:12 [[RarVM]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=63438&oldid=62402 * Void * (-90) 11:17:44 [[Truth-machine]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=63439&oldid=63040 * A * (+203) /* Assembly language */ 11:18:37 if only utf-8 has been invented earlier, we now wouldn't have this stupid difference where pathnames are byte strings on unix but utf-16 code element strings on windows 11:19:04 [[Backshift]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=63440&oldid=63437 * A * (-201) /* Inverse Truth-machine */ this does not work now... 11:20:13 also it would make utf-8 strings shorter because code points below 0x800 would be assigned more sanely 11:23:16 [[Talk:Backshift]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=63441&oldid=63436 * A * (+59) /* Modified version of the removed code from the main page */ 11:25:49 My news feed told me the 5.2 Linux kernel includes patches where EXT4 file systems can be case-insensitive on a per-directory basis. 11:28:08 fizzie: yeah, I know. basically if they have to make a module all the ugly unicode casing rules to support windows file systems, and work as a server, then it's not much of a cost to support that for other fses too, and could help interaction with windows 11:36:33 [[Backshift]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=63442&oldid=63440 * A * (+101) /* Inverse Truth-machine */ 11:37:32 [[Backshift]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=63443&oldid=63442 * A * (-13) /* Inverse Truth-machine */ 11:41:20 -!- Lord_of_Life has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds). 11:43:05 -!- Lord_of_Life has joined. 12:12:56 [[Backshift]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=63444&oldid=63443 * A * (+60) /* Examples */ 12:25:13 -!- arseniiv has joined. 12:27:20 [[Backshift]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=63445&oldid=63444 * A * (-11) /* Infinite loop */ 12:27:34 [[Backshift]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=63446&oldid=63445 * A * (+10) /* Hello, World! */ 12:35:17 [[Backshift]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=63447&oldid=63446 * A * (+137) /* Examples */ 12:36:32 [[Backshift]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=63448&oldid=63447 * A * (+29) /* Cat program */ 12:58:08 -!- tuxcrafting has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds). 13:03:28 [[Backshift]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=63449&oldid=63448 * A * (+0) /* Hexadecimal */ backshift("backshift",16) -> "backshift" 13:04:18 [[Backshift]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=63450&oldid=63449 * A * (+0) /* Hexadecimal */ No 13:04:45 [[Backshift]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=63451&oldid=63450 * A * (+0) /* Hexadecimal */ 13:07:21 -!- tuxcrafting has joined. 13:07:50 [[Backshift]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=63452&oldid=63451 * A * (+38) /* Infinite loop */ 13:10:10 -!- budonyc has joined. 13:36:32 -!- xkapastel has quit (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity). 13:52:28 > length "🤔" 13:52:31 :1:9: error: 13:52:31 lexical error in string/character literal at character '\129300' 13:54:07 mm 13:54:50 > "🂁" 13:54:52 "\127105" 13:55:22 > echo "🤔" | od -tx1 13:55:24 :1:7: error: 13:55:24 lexical error in string/character literal at character '\129300' 13:55:34 `` echo "🤔" | od -tx1 13:55:35 0000000 f0 9f a4 94 0a \ 0000005 13:57:47 I guess that's a sort of version test... ghc-8.8 accepts that 14:01:28 [[Backshift]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=63453&oldid=63452 * A * (+25) 14:04:29 [[Backshift]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=63454&oldid=63453 * A * (+110) 14:04:38 [[Backshift]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=63455&oldid=63454 * A * (+1) 14:06:19 -!- xkapastel has joined. 14:07:02 [[Hello world program in esoteric languages]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=63456&oldid=63028 * A * (+169) /* BackFlip */ 14:36:54 -!- tuxcrafting has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds). 14:37:32 -!- tuxcrafting has joined. 15:00:57 -!- moei has joined. 15:36:14 hi hi how’s it going 15:36:44 for my part, I continue procrastinating :( :) 15:38:00 -!- wob_jonas has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 15:45:29 [[User:Arseniiv/Subsandbox]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=63457&oldid=59251 * Arseniiv * (+226) mathematic declension 15:45:36 since i started to work with xquery, i start to hate :) 15:46:35 hm does someone know is there any sufficient demand of MathJax/KaTeX/alike being added to the wiki? 15:47:19 (personally, I don’t need it right now and in any foreseeable future, I think) 15:49:49 how is that esoteric? 15:53:14 myname: I meant, not as a page describing it :D 15:53:19 as a feature 15:53:28 ah 15:53:43 though base TeX language seems pretty eso to me, and the way Knuth coded in it 15:54:09 though I hadn’t yet read the TeX book by myself 16:15:43 [[Suich]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=63458 * TuxCrafting * (+3416) Created page with "Suich is an esoteric programming language created by [[User:TuxCrafting]]. = Introduction = A Suich program is made of one or more lines. The lines are all padded with nops..." 16:17:43 [[User:TuxCrafting]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=63459&oldid=63261 * TuxCrafting * (+12) 16:18:45 [[Language list]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=63460&oldid=63263 * TuxCrafting * (+12) 16:25:27 -!- atslash has quit (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep). 16:57:15 -!- b_jonas has joined. 17:22:51 -!- atslash has joined. 18:01:46 -!- bobby has joined. 18:06:25 my bit-interleaving cons impl turns out to be working correctly only for 0, 0 and 1, 0 18:06:43 or maybe cons is okay and fst and snd are to blame 18:16:20 -!- AnotherTest has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds). 18:16:30 -!- FreeFull has joined. 18:16:46 -!- AnotherTest has joined. 18:29:10 shachaf: so contrary to my previous belief, MD5_Update with a fixed message block is *not* a random permutation. 18:29:15 (TIL) 18:39:20 `? fee 18:39:21 fee? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ 18:39:21 `? udp 18:39:22 udp? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ 18:39:30 `? ffee 18:39:31 ffee? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ 18:39:36 hmm 18:41:49 b_jonas: usenet death penalty? 18:44:48 no 18:45:05 usable datagram protocol 18:48:26 you won’t believe it, the bug was in addition definition 18:49:20 ... oh the primitive recursion endeavor 18:49:44 yup 18:50:10 I'll believe it simply because it's the last thing I'd check ;-) 18:50:54 also there are Gollum-ish names like “testConses” 18:51:33 int-e: indeed, I was going top-bottom too 18:51:59 -!- AnotherTest has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds). 18:54:04 arseniiv: what are you programming where you're defining addition 18:55:31 b_jonas: I was defining cons, fst and snd via that bare prim. rec. formalism, now I tested them together via Haskell 18:57:23 now I am moderately confident in these defs and maybe tomorrow we’ll write a Minsky machine translation proc. 18:58:02 and by “we” I mean myself probably 18:58:17 and I’ll dump it to the wiki 19:01:19 arseniiv: nah, if you have cons, car and cdr working then you don't have to go through Minsky 19:01:36 you can just translate any bloop program directly 19:01:40 well, "directly" 19:01:45 you have to turn them to pure functional 19:01:47 but still, it's not hard 19:02:02 b_jonas: maaaybe. I want to see it now, Minsky I mean 19:02:06 I said minsky machine only because I wasn't sure there was a reasonable way to implement cons and car and cdr 19:02:50 I’ll leave bloop translation to you B) 19:15:18 -!- budonyc has quit (Quit: Leaving). 19:28:37 -!- tuxcrafting has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 19:41:42 -!- AnotherTest has joined. 20:03:50 -!- AnotherTest has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 20:37:32 b_jonas: yeah, in the end I find Minsky translation tedious too :D 20:37:49 maybe another day I will feel different 20:48:35 -!- atslash has quit (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep). 21:04:04 what examples are here of Turing tarpits being able to describe their own syntax (in a way like lisp’s (quasi|un|)quotes)? Something really minimal 21:07:54 not just quotes but also some facility to meddle with them 21:09:00 it seems to demand adding many entities to the syntax, and I’d like it to stay minimal 21:14:32 arseniiv: uh, Befunge? no, that's not a Turing tarpit 21:15:44 b_jonas: Befunge is too diverse, yes 21:16:10 maybe something lambda-calculous 21:17:51 brainfuck could almost count 21:18:05 since you can quote bf code by just changing each char to +++++++...+++++> 21:18:45 lambd calc and unlambda can express its own syntax with the 'closures as records trick' 21:18:53 the problem with brainfuck is that if you represent the code, you can't write a straightforward eval that runs it, you need an ugly full simulation 21:19:16 try unlambda or underload, there you can easily eval a tree repr of the code back to actual unquoted combinators 21:19:18 it seems in a real tarpit it’s easier to write self-evaluator than to enhance the syntax and be left with something nice 21:19:56 rain1: yeah 21:21:21 or how about 7 ? 21:25:12 arseniiv: 7? 21:26:56 hmm no 21:27:10 well 21:27:16 it really depends on what you want 21:29:31 maybe 7, I didn’t read it solidly yet 21:29:37 b_jonas: ^ 21:31:01 it's probably not a better example than underload or unlambda 21:32:08 int-e: Is that the compression function? 21:34:44 `? starter pokemon 21:34:45 starter pokemon? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ 21:34:52 `? squirtle 21:34:53 squirtle? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ 21:34:54 `? charizard 21:34:55 charizard? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ 21:35:18 `? bulbasaur 21:35:19 bulbasaur? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ 21:35:20 `? pigeotto 21:35:21 pigeotto? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ 21:37:22 `forget resolution 21:37:24 Forget what? 21:38:02 shachaf: yes 21:38:17 `forget flu shot 21:38:19 Forget what? 21:47:08 ``` set -e; cd share/mtg; test -f MagicCompRules_20181005.txt; rm -v MagicCompRules-20181005.txt 21:47:10 removed 'MagicCompRules-20181005.txt' 21:47:20 `fetch share/mtg/MagicCompRules_20190612.txt https://media.wizards.com/2019/downloads/MagicCompRules%2020190612.txt 21:47:21 2019-06-13 21:47:21 URL:https://media.wizards.com/2019/downloads/MagicCompRules%2020190612.txt [726098/726098] -> "share/mtg/MagicCompRules_20190612.txt" [1] 21:47:51 ``` set -e; cd share/mtg; tr -d \\r rules.txt 21:47:53 No output. 21:48:02 ``` head share/mtg/rules.txt 21:48:07 ​Magic: The Gathering Comprehensive Rules \ \ These rules are effective as of June 14, 2019. \ \ Introduction \ \ This document is the ultimate authority for Magic: The Gathering® competitive game play. It consists of a series of numbered rules followed by a glossary. Many of the numbered rules are divided into subrules, and each separate rule and subrule of the game has its own number. (Note that subrules skip the letters “l” and “o” due 21:48:23 ``` grep -Ei 'anteater|pangolin' share/mtg/rules.txt 21:48:24 205.3m Creatures and tribals share their lists of subtypes; these subtypes are called creature types. The creature types are Advisor, Aetherborn, Ally, Angel, Antelope, Ape, Archer, Archon, Army, Artificer, Assassin, Assembly-Worker, Atog, Aurochs, Avatar, Azra, Badger, Barbarian, Basilisk, Bat, Bear, Beast, Beeble, Berserker, Bird, Blinkmoth, Boar, Bringer, Brushwagg, Camarid, Camel, Caribou, Carrier, Cat, Centaur, Cephalid, Chimera, Citizen, Cleric, Cock 21:49:28 zzo38: ^ you got that one, right? 21:50:36 `good dog # for the fetching 21:50:36 Your friends are strong. Take their help. 21:58:41 `? FireFly 21:58:42 FireFly was a short-running but well-loved sci-fi TV series released in 2003, starring Nathan Fillion and directed and written by Joss Whedon. 21:59:21 `relearn FireFly was a short-running but well-loved sci-fi TV series released in 2003, starring Nathan Fillion and directed and written by Joss Whedon. It's also a room whose gimmick is that it gets darker as you kill the enemies. 21:59:22 ​/srv/hackeso-code/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: relearn: not found 21:59:25 what? 21:59:29 `learn FireFly was a short-running but well-loved sci-fi TV series released in 2003, starring Nathan Fillion and directed and written by Joss Whedon. It's also a room whose gimmick is that it gets darker as you kill the enemies. 21:59:30 Relearned 'firefly': FireFly was a short-running but well-loved sci-fi TV series released in 2003, starring Nathan Fillion and directed and written by Joss Whedon. It's also a room whose gimmick is that it gets darker as you kill the enemies. 22:00:52 -!- moei has quit (Quit: Leaving...). 22:03:51 int-e: Is there a reason to expect it to be a permutation? 22:04:43 ``` rm bin/wrlist 22:04:45 No output. 22:06:23 shachaf: not particularly though the way it is there is probably a reset sequence for the MD5 update; a sequence of blocks that produces the same state regardless of the initial state. But it's bound to be quite long... 22:06:58 https://esolangs.org/logs/2015-08-06.html#lBd 22:07:17 apparently `flist was intended to be update notifications for oren's font, but I think it got forgotten 22:07:49 int-e: how long though, on the order of magnitude? 22:07:53 and how hard is it to find? 22:08:50 ``` echo $IRC_NICK >> bin/flist 22:08:52 No output. 22:10:11 and `llist is some joke, but I don't quite understand it https://esolangs.org/logs/2013-07-12.html#lXi 22:11:50 and yeah, `mlist is some joke too https://esolangs.org/logs/2013-03-03.html#lTj 22:12:05 It won't be feasible. I expect you can collapse the state space down to 2^64 by doing things randomly in 2^70 or so blocks (keeping track of all 2^128 states at first), and then target remaining pairs by choosing appropriate messages, using another 2^65 blocks. 22:12:34 int-e: I didn't expect to be feasable, just wondering about the theoretical length 22:14:16 but yeah, md5 is kind of old and not recommended 22:14:32 -!- sebbu2 has changed nick to sebbu. 22:17:04 b_jonas: sha-2 shares the same property, though the state space that you'd have to collapse is much larger. 22:17:18 int-e: how large? 22:17:29 2^256 or 2^512 depending on the variant 22:17:41 so the state space is the same size as the output? 22:17:49 the output space 22:19:19 It depends on the variant. yes for SHA-256 and SHA-512; no for the truncated versions SHA-224, SHA-384, SHA-512/224, SHA-512/256. 22:19:28 I see 22:20:11 -!- MDude has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds). 22:20:58 I guess that makes sense 22:21:08 Oh, also yes for MD5 and SHA-1. 22:54:19 [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * Sugarfi * New user account 22:56:52 [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=63461&oldid=63258 * Sugarfi * (+228) /* Introductions */ 23:03:25 [[Photon]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=63462 * Sugarfi * (+140) Created page with "===Photon=== '''Photon''' is an esolang where each command has the same structure. 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