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< 1570584685 977461 :ais523_!93bcc3db@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.147.188.195.219 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, you know how a while back we had a conversation here about how "son" and "sun" are spelled differently despite being pronounced the same? apparently this stems from an ambiguity in an old handwriting style, where "u" and "n" looked a lot like || and "m" like |||, so scribes generally changed "un" and "um" to "on" and "om" so that they at least
< 1570584686 509774 :ais523_!93bcc3db@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.147.188.195.219 PRIVMSG #esoteric :had a chance of being readable
< 1570584711 404018 :ais523_!93bcc3db@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.147.188.195.219 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so both the "son" and "sun" spellings ended up in common use, and ended up being attached to different words
< 1570584754 632798 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The other day I was reading a poem which rhymed "love" with "prove" and "remove".
< 1570584763 138870 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(~150 years old.)
< 1570584776 971925 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought the pronunciation of "love" changed, but maybe it's all the other "ove" words that changed instead?
< 1570584844 368829 :ais523_!93bcc3db@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.147.188.195.219 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think in some traditions of poetry it's acceptable to "rhyme" words simply because they look like they should rhyme, regardless of pronounciation
< 1570584847 942277 :ais523_!93bcc3db@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.147.188.195.219 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's known as an "eye rhyme"
< 1570584848 314770 :pikhq!uid394595@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-putygvflmnyxxsta PRIVMSG #esoteric :And presumably, they only settled on a single spelling much later, and just _picked_ one for each?
< 1570584854 799107 :ais523_!93bcc3db@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.147.188.195.219 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure if your poem was one of them
< 1570584860 439375 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm kind of skeptical about this specific case.
< 1570584874 32586 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've seen it in multiple poems, and this poem didn't have any other cases that looked like that.
< 1570584877 243437 :ais523_!93bcc3db@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.147.188.195.219 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I wasn't around at the time, I don't know the details
< 1570584912 33275 :pikhq!uid394595@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-putygvflmnyxxsta PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P
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< 1570588994 214569 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? towkr
< 1570588995 247841 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :towkr? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1570589954 544399 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`icode > maр (10*) [3,1,4
< 1570589955 245268 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+003E GREATER-THAN SIGN] [U+0020 SPACE] [U+006D LATIN SMALL LETTER M] [U+0061 LATIN SMALL LETTER A] [U+0440 CYRILLIC SMALL LETTER ER] [U+0020 SPACE] [U+0028 LEFT PARENTHESIS] [U+0031 DIGIT ONE] [U+0030 DIGIT ZERO] [U+002A ASTERISK] [U+0029 RIGHT PARENTHESIS] [U+0020 SPACE] [U+005B LEFT SQUARE BRACKET] [U+0033 DIGIT THREE] [U+002C COMMA] [U+0031 DIGIT ONE] [U+002C COMMA] [U+0034 DIGIT FOUR]
< 1570589970 88615 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :thought so
< 1570590011 868454 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric
< 1570590480 5980 :pikhq!uid394595@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-putygvflmnyxxsta PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see, I see. Yes, makes perfect sense
< 1570590556 472832 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> "maр (10*) [3,1,4"
< 1570590558 90556 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : "ma\1088 (10*) [3,1,4"
< 1570590613 601210 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :<wib_jonas> HackEso says that these three are now too long <-- weren't they always
< 1570590642 614473 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`5 w
< 1570590644 736952 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :1/1:le/rn//le/rn makes creating wisdom entries manually a thing of the past. Usage: `le/[/]rn <key>//<wisdom> \ civic duty//Civic duty is your duty to keep your Honda in tip-top shape. \ 01//01 is an abbreviation that 01 understands. \ soup//What soup, Doc? \ group//Groups are just loops with the property of associativity.
< 1570590664 562581 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel like the joke in le/rn should be deleted due to being so out of date.
< 1570590690 351303 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cwlprits brilliant
< 1570590692 11736 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-̈e oerjän oerjän oerjän
< 1570590692 801818 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The "[/]" should probably also be deleted.
< 1570590701 838074 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION looks sternly at int-e 
< 1570590717 5024 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's still allowed
< 1570591403 786357 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :<FireFly> I'm not sure I pay a lot of attention here, but if desired could probably deal with clear abuse when spotted <-- you're already an op through the staff cloak btw
< 1570591421 860404 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :assuming we added that correctly
< 1570591499 297983 :pikhq!uid394595@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-putygvflmnyxxsta PRIVMSG #esoteric :fancy
< 1570591550 651036 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :<b_jonas> by the way, I really hope that Dtuser1337 is not another alias of Areallycoolusername <-- i think we established that is not the same person as the bbc village in norway
< 1570591592 577319 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(don't know a about Dtuser1337, it's ais523_ who knows how to check such things)
< 1570591604 965032 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-15-213.eastlink.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds
< 1570591618 148834 :ais523_!93bcc3db@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.147.188.195.219 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's unlikely enough not to need checking
< 1570591625 778367 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok
< 1570591635 902264 :ais523_!93bcc3db@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.147.188.195.219 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yes, ARCUN only has one account
< 1570591661 925023 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think e really meant a
< 1570591662 80074 :ais523_!93bcc3db@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.147.188.195.219 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was surprised to learn that the accounts were different, but in retrospect there are noticeable differences between the two people you can spot if you look for them
< 1570591672 598857 :ais523_!93bcc3db@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.147.188.195.219 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, it's a who has all the accounts
< 1570591684 502961 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, whether e was Dt*
< 1570591688 527286 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway
< 1570591705 170812 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there sure are a lot of new wiki users
< 1570591721 122042 :ais523_!93bcc3db@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.147.188.195.219 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we get new users at a pretty rapid rate
< 1570591730 704289 :ais523_!93bcc3db@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.147.188.195.219 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although most disappear after posting one esolang or making one edit
< 1570591736 374495 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm
< 1570591787 536464 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm sort of wonder if that discord esolang channel has more users than this channel, i've never used it
< 1570591790 560543 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*wondering
< 1570591816 384875 :ais523_!93bcc3db@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.147.188.195.219 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are a surprisingly large number of people who refuse to use Discord on principle, I'm one of them
< 1570591830 404641 :ais523_!93bcc3db@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.147.188.195.219 PRIVMSG #esoteric :however I am generally OK with bridging bots that connect IRC and Discord channels together
< 1570591866 392112 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :CGCC had an ad to the wiki but it no longer does, so i'm not sure where they're still coming from :P
< 1570591883 99587 :ais523_!93bcc3db@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.147.188.195.219 PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps next year we should try to bring that ad back
< 1570591886 618816 :ais523_!93bcc3db@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.147.188.195.219 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was a good ad
< 1570591905 880508 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Sorry, all the tentacles and other appendices exceeded my pain threshold.
< 1570591906 673952 :ais523_!93bcc3db@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.147.188.195.219 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that said, it'd be nice to make the wiki more non-esoprogrammer-friendly before that
< 1570591919 994941 :ais523_!93bcc3db@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.147.188.195.219 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in particular, some way to find which languages were actually good, more content on the relevant pages, etc.)
< 1570591931 787493 :ais523_!93bcc3db@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.147.188.195.219 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the issue being that nobody seems to have the spare time and motivation to put in the work
< 1570591938 806697 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`zalgo i can't imagine what you mean
< 1570591939 549143 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :i̲͊ ̡̣c̖̞aͤ͘n̮̉'̹̥t͕͏ ̺̬i̘͐m̠̈́a̼̫g̼̒i͚̒n͐̂e̡͇ ̠͂w̟̔ẖ͉á̷t̼ͩ ̓̾y̑ͪo̖ͦuͣ̒ ̒͗m͑̀e̩̱a̗̹n̟̘
< 1570591953 84450 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh
< 1570591977 421432 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( i've found int-e's secret weakness MWAHAHAHA )
< 1570591997 14847 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is worse than fn*rds.
< 1570592001 280940 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :fnords
< 1570592013 326976 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Remember when some unknown set of Unicode characters would mess up my terminal?
< 1570592016 329650 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good times.
< 1570592028 847719 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: do you know anything about those?
< 1570592029 2346 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i was busy because of homeworks and projects and so on
< 1570592037 772257 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently not
< 1570592154 376603 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? zalgo
< 1570592155 393729 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :zalgo? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1570592193 381581 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn zalgo//The `zalgo` command turns perfectly good text into toxic waste. It violates a multitude of UN conventions.
< 1570592195 361503 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'zalgo': The `zalgo` command turns perfectly good text into toxic waste. It violates a multitude of UN conventions.
< 1570592222 932079 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1570592314 983148 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd zalgo//s/UN/UN(icode)/
< 1570592316 580517 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :zalgo//The `zalgo` command turns perfectly good text into toxic waste. It violates a multitude of UN(icode) conventions.
< 1570592346 550082 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what was the sed-last command again btw?
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< 1570592539 928516 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 NICK :Lord_of_Life
< 1570592555 625191 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo bin/sedlast
< 1570592556 373764 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/sedlast
< 1570592563 573560 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :um wait
< 1570592569 377842 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo bin/*last
< 1570592570 87272 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/sedlast
< 1570592584 535268 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it was right, anyway
< 1570592604 967450 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, a logically named command
< 1570592611 958201 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no wonder I didn't find it
< 1570592668 892053 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(but tbh I was just too lazy to look... it was less mental effort to use `slwd and retype the entry name)
< 1570592680 738940 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shocking
< 1570592701 164781 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"effort" is a bit of a joke here.
< 1570593180 866394 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote lazy
< 1570593181 307531 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :601) <Vorpal> elliott: well how will you represent "The dog jumped over the lazy dog" then?
< 1570593207 418842 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote lazi
< 1570593207 941368 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1570593220 865851 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess no one bothered to add more
< 1570593229 587061 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom laz
< 1570593230 390969 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's not wise.
< 1570593238 529137 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`grwp laz
< 1570593239 249360 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :angband:Angband is Morgoth's second dungeon (the first was Utumno). When the greater and lesser people of Middle-Earth together defeated Morgoth in Angband, they were too lazy to go to for 100% completion, so some evil spirits in Angband survived for a sequel, and Morgoth himself recovered and arrived to Numenor. \ kanada:Your bankers' vain plazas never nurtured no one / And your concrete expanses lay fallow in the sun / And your cities all co
< 1570593253 945835 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :plaza. of course.
< 1570593877 365575 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like conflict-driven clause learning?
< 1570593918 158057 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: See the logs.
< 1570594069 574700 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is picking out the next variable to branch on one of the trickiest things in SAT solvers?
< 1570594083 449491 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or is a rough heuristic about as good as a complicated one?
< 1570594408 586981 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's all heuristics. Selecting variables to branch on, when to restart, when to forget learned clauses, which clauses to learn in the first place, splitting clauses into hot and cold clauses of some sort for better locality...
< 1570594425 385193 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Using lookahead for early branches, blah blah.
< 1570594565 85823 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, polarity of variables is in there as well (when you branch, do you try false or true first?)
< 1570594575 718597 :pikhq!uid394595@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-putygvflmnyxxsta PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is kinda weird now seeing the nick "elliott" in quotes.
< 1570594651 140445 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote pikhq
< 1570594651 673112 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :11) <pikhq> First, invent the direct mind-computer interface.  <pikhq> Second, you know the rest. \ 12) IN AN ALTERNATE UNIVERSE: <pikhq> First, invent the direct mind-computer interface.  <pikhq> Second, learn the rest with your NEW MIND-COMPUTER INTERFACE. \ 25) <ehird> pikhq: A lunar nation is totally pointless.  <fungebob> ehird: consider low-gravity porn  <ehird> fungebob: OK. Now I'm convinced. \ 82) <Gregor> Well yeah, but furthermore u
< 1570594690 282788 :pikhq!uid394595@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-putygvflmnyxxsta PRIVMSG #esoteric ::)
< 1570594725 227085 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :is fungebob a precursor of fungot?
< 1570594755 267443 :pikhq!uid394595@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-putygvflmnyxxsta PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nah, I think fungot had a different nick briefly.
< 1570594755 403114 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: i almost got a bf interpreter. i'm not into guis at all."
< 1570594824 812849 :Hooloovo0!Hooloovoo@sorunome.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote fungebob
< 1570594825 361510 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :25) <ehird> pikhq: A lunar nation is totally pointless.  <fungebob> ehird: consider low-gravity porn  <ehird> fungebob: OK. Now I'm convinced.
< 1570594871 951052 :Hooloovo0!Hooloovoo@sorunome.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure, I guess
< 1570594880 632497 :Hooloovo0!Hooloovoo@sorunome.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote fungot
< 1570594880 746166 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hooloovo0: no no no no no. well ok, perhaps that ruined my experience :) just saying that
< 1570594881 66147 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :10) <fungot> GregorR-L: i bet only you can prevent forest fires. basically, you know. \ 13) <fizzie after embedding some of his department research into fungot> Finally I have found some actually useful purpose for it. \ 14) <fungot> oerjan: are you a man, if there weren't evil in this kingdom to you! you shall find bekkler! executing program. please let me go... put me out! he's really a tricycle! pass him! \ 56) <fungot> i am sad ( of course
< 1570595673 226239 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungebob virtualpants
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< 1570603922 897211 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-51.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, pikhq, shachaf: see http://www.madore.org/~david/weblog/d.2013-09-29.2161.html on "love" and "prove"; http://www.madore.org/~david/weblog/d.2019-08-29.2618.html on "sun" and "son" which started this conv'n
< 1570604090 658176 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-51.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yes, but Areallycoolusername has at least one alias
< 1570604096 90212 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-51.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait what?
< 1570604101 571406 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-51.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ARCUN only has one account? ok
< 1570604240 474655 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah there is a second account, https://esolangs.org/wiki/User:Jussef_Swissen
< 1570604263 208375 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-51.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"<oerjan> ... i'm not sure where they're still coming from" => one user came to the channel and said he came from bfjoust
< 1570604282 847306 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Hmm, the first page is in French.
< 1570604312 97067 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-51.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"<ais523_> (in particular, some way to find which languages were actually good, more content on the relevant pages, etc.)" => yeah, that would take work
< 1570604359 106959 :kritixilithos!~kritixili@gateway/tor-sasl/kritixilithos JOIN :#esoteric
< 1570604400 876104 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-51.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I prefer to spend my time writing a little documentation about languages that I find out about from outside the wiki
< 1570604480 342763 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-51.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :to be snarky, I could say that we have about 1500 languages on the language list, of which over 200 are languages by A, plus we have like 200 joke languages, so we might start to think of a button that goes to a random non-joke non-A language
< 1570604532 456792 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-51.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"<shachaf> oerjan: Remember when some unknown set of Unicode characters would mess up my terminal?" => hmm, were you the one who catted irc straight into a terminal and complained when anyone typed a control-N?
< 1570604633 581503 :atslash!~atslash@static.231.107.9.5.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds
< 1570604638 362108 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: ouch how close is that 200 to reality? (Re: A)
< 1570604676 458092 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was not me.
< 1570604737 879936 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-51.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: it's definitely over 200. I started counting to be able to definitely say that he has comfortably more languages than ais523 now and if his motivation was to be the creator with the most esolangs then he can stop now, and yes, I could say that
< 1570604739 30603 :ais523_!93bcc3db@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.147.188.195.219 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: add BF derivatives in too
< 1570604752 192412 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: that is scary.
< 1570604772 66378 :ais523_!93bcc3db@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.147.188.195.219 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's no real problem with creating 200 languages, the problem is with having 200 language ideas and not really fleshing out any of them
< 1570604772 944785 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-51.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: User:A used to have a list
< 1570604786 25183 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-51.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yes, they're already listed on the joke page
< 1570604796 511369 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-51.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :though there are a few interesting bf derivatives of course
< 1570604818 247923 :ais523_!93bcc3db@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.147.188.195.219 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are a surprising number of interesting BF derivatives, just /even more/ uninteresting BF derivatives
< 1570604822 466298 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-51.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep
< 1570604841 234421 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: I'm trying to ignore the problem. You may recall me talking about suppressing A-related esowiki messages.
< 1570604845 50821 :ais523_!93bcc3db@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.147.188.195.219 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in general, if you have a new idea for a command to add to an imperative language, BF makes a familiar base from which to start, and the resulting language probably won't be terrible
< 1570604879 395997 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-51.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've even seen at least one brainfuck derivative that makes sense to have been created as a bf derivative, as opposed to just being a cool idea that should have been turned to an esolang unrelated to bf
< 1570604899 68687 :ais523_!93bcc3db@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.147.188.195.219 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: it's important to have all the edits here so that they can be reviewed, I normally rely on the #esoteric logs to work out what admin actions I need to take (although I do check Special:RecentChanges from time to time too)
< 1570604929 494102 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523_: I wasn't suggesting to suppress them in general.
< 1570604938 397372 :ais523_!93bcc3db@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.147.188.195.219 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: SMBF, Permanent Brainfuck, DoFuck probably all fall into that category (oddly, I don't think DoFuck's on the wiki)
< 1570604950 390251 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-51.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :DoFuck is on the wiki under another name iirc
< 1570604976 7163 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-51.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not convinced that SMBF is even usable
< 1570605001 188130 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-51.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :is permanent brainfuck the one where you can only change cells from 0 to 1? there's no article
< 1570605003 438018 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523_: What I meant is that I, personally, have a specially crafted /ignore for that purpose.
< 1570605008 768806 :ais523_!93bcc3db@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.147.188.195.219 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in practice, it's mostly used as an efficient way to initialise the tape
< 1570605024 366181 :ais523_!93bcc3db@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.147.188.195.219 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, permanent BF is 0→1 only (or sometimes, + only with bignums)
< 1570605049 477846 :ais523_!93bcc3db@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.147.188.195.219 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is an article but it's on a page whose intent was to centralise all the computationally interesting BF derivatives, then it didn't really get used
< 1570605070 697046 :ais523_!93bcc3db@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.147.188.195.219 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: that's entirely reasonable, in fact I probably would have suggested it if you hadn't done it already
< 1570605123 864204 :ais523_!93bcc3db@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.147.188.195.219 PRIVMSG #esoteric :idea: merge all the BF equivalents into a single article
< 1570605126 84438 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-51.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's https://esolangs.org/wiki/Treehugger which I think is computationally interesting
< 1570605151 45373 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-51.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: there's already one that merges some of them
< 1570605179 150799 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-51.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or used to be one
< 1570605193 3432 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :<b_jonas> "<oerjan> ... i'm not sure where they're still coming from" => one user came to the channel and said he came from bfjoust <-- i'm not asking about the channel but about the wiki, which is presumably where they found bfjoust first
< 1570605210 862770 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-51.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it was on a talk page?
< 1570605218 112291 :ais523_!93bcc3db@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.147.188.195.219 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was a BF Joust competition on CGCC
< 1570605237 657391 :ais523_!93bcc3db@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.147.188.195.219 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(they got the idea from us but ran mostly independently; however, Lymia won it)
< 1570605237 943916 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-51.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I don't know
< 1570605301 545655 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-51.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: there's a new user Msully4321 who came to do one constructive edit, and he says so on Introduce yourself, which is often a good motivation why people register on wikis, but they don't say how they found the wiki
< 1570605351 739674 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-51.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think at least one user said that they came from the esolang discord
< 1570605393 236778 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-51.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :do we know where kspalaiologos came from?
< 1570605400 669330 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-51.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the real one, not the name-taking spammer
< 1570605426 93599 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-51.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and one user, kmc, came from the ancient past of #esoteric by a time machine or something
< 1570605479 550455 :ais523_!93bcc3db@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.147.188.195.219 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I came from http://99-bottles-of-beer.net/ (linked to me by email) via Malbolge and INTERCAL
< 1570605522 718018 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :owo
< 1570605525 32841 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-51.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't remember where I came from, possibilities are other freenode channels and via Intercal or unlambda or Piet/Chef.
< 1570605545 939040 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-51.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, as for other websites
< 1570605547 212283 :ais523_!93bcc3db@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.147.188.195.219 PRIVMSG #esoteric :didn't you follow me from #nethack4?
< 1570605589 615475 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i saw b_jonas on the iwc forum before he came here
< 1570605613 522711 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't remember exactly how i came here but i was on the old esolang mailing list way back
< 1570605619 491750 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-51.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://rosettacode.org/wiki/Rosetta_Code occasionally has code in esoteric languages. should we try to advertise there, from like the pages of esolangs?
< 1570605634 628538 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-51.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: that's possible, but I don't see how the iwc forum would direct here other than by Piet/Chef
< 1570605664 285380 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-51.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I don't think Piet/Chef is discussed on the forum at all other than in one doc bug report that I posted a few months ago
< 1570605714 927445 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-51.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also wrote obfuscated code in perl (and usually rather stupid ones, there's quite a few that I'm ashamed of, but there's a learning curve) so maybe someone directed me here from that
< 1570605745 131325 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't even remember how I got here.
< 1570605752 361404 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-51.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :perlmonks.com is the first website on the web where I was an active contributor
< 1570605756 689091 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-51.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it was shortly followed by irc
< 1570605759 821729 :ais523_!93bcc3db@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.147.188.195.219 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, I just discovered a 49333400 byte Makefile on my computer
< 1570605761 913304 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-51.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :freenode specifically
< 1570605770 401162 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-51.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ouch
< 1570605777 277478 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haha. Somebody put "(Not clickbait)" into a youtube video title...
< 1570605781 455952 :ais523_!93bcc3db@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.147.188.195.219 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it looks like some sort of benchmark for make implementations, luckily, rather than being intended to actually generate a useful output
< 1570605807 365647 :ais523_!93bcc3db@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.147.188.195.219 PRIVMSG #esoteric :based on the target names, I assume I wrote the script that generated it
< 1570605820 720550 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(A video that doesn't interest me but that according to youtube is "trending" whatever that means)
< 1570605852 960723 :ais523_!93bcc3db@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.147.188.195.219 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"trending" on websites normally means that more people than predicted are visiting it, e.g. the number of views is high and increasing
< 1570605856 429982 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-51.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: yes, that occurs in titles often
< 1570605865 445203 :ais523_!93bcc3db@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.147.188.195.219 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(rather than being constantly popular, or just new)
< 1570605866 883743 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-51.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :whew
< 1570605876 232268 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: I bet I'll see it more often now that I'm on to this... uhm... trend.
< 1570605934 291943 :ais523_!93bcc3db@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.147.188.195.219 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder what proportion of those are actually clickbait
< 1570605981 456465 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-51.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that may depend on your definition
< 1570605981 789265 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :97%
< 1570606034 52932 :ais523_!93bcc3db@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.147.188.195.219 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess the definition of clickbait is "something which, based on the description of a link, causes someone to click the mouse more times than they would if they were correctly informed"
< 1570606046 892677 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: that sounds made up, needs more precision
< 1570606049 109910 :ais523_!93bcc3db@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.147.188.195.219 PRIVMSG #esoteric :normally implying that you follow the link out of curiosity then dislike what's on the other end of it
< 1570606060 765807 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: 97.3211421%, now we're talking.
< 1570606083 727426 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY
< 1570606094 930285 :ais523_!93bcc3db@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.147.188.195.219 PRIVMSG #esoteric :those things look a lot more convincing if they look like they were rounded from an actual fraction
< 1570606107 870801 :ais523_!93bcc3db@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.147.188.195.219 PRIVMSG #esoteric :97.3285714% or the like
< 1570606124 467905 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523_: I know. It was part of the joke.
< 1570606127 216548 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 1/7
< 1570606128 918798 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 0.14285714285714285
< 1570606138 89983 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-51.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: right, and if that definition was correct then you should report every clickbait on youtube as having a misleading title or misleading thumbnail
< 1570606151 536688 :ais523_!93bcc3db@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.147.188.195.219 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have a YouTube account, so it doesn't let me report things
< 1570606162 16057 :ais523_!93bcc3db@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.147.188.195.219 PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise, it seems like the sort of thing I would do :-D
< 1570606181 762978 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523_: i'm not sure most people know that pattern (i only guessed)
< 1570606194 480201 :ais523_!93bcc3db@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.147.188.195.219 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I think more people recognise it than know it
< 1570606201 633971 :ais523_!93bcc3db@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.147.188.195.219 PRIVMSG #esoteric :most people have seen it before even if they don't know what causes it
< 1570606221 591776 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-51.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :once each I have tried to report things on youtube or on ebay, but I found that even though the entry was clearly something that shouldn't be there, under the report menu there's no choice to report that particular offense among the report reasons 
< 1570606224 646729 :ais523_!93bcc3db@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.147.188.195.219 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it gives that feeling of familiarity that makes it more convincing, even if the viewer doesn't know why
< 1570606231 271606 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-51.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so after that I basically gave up
< 1570606237 241587 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-51.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't recally what it was for youtube,
< 1570606296 139763 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-51.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but for ebay it was entries where they bunch a really cheap item together with a normal item into the same entry with those select boxes that you normally use to select sizes or colors, the title and first photo describes only the normal item, but the price displayed on the search list describes the very cheap item
< 1570606334 76368 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-51.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :they bunch large capacity fast sd cards with cheap sd card readers this way, but I've seen other similar combinations too
< 1570606334 594430 :ais523_!93bcc3db@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.147.188.195.219 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, that could in theory be legitimate if the range of sizes were large enough
< 1570606346 964061 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-51.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523_: no, because the title is misleading
< 1570606361 230177 :ais523_!93bcc3db@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.147.188.195.219 PRIVMSG #esoteric :USB sticks ranging from 256 MB to 256 GB, for example
< 1570606368 93169 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-51.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not like "SD card 1 MB 1 GB 2 GB 4 GB 8 GB 16 GB", those are fine
< 1570606387 189395 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-51.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's "SD card 8 GB 16 GB" (with other qualifiers) and then one of the sizes is "card reader only"
< 1570606390 138037 :ais523_!93bcc3db@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.147.188.195.219 PRIVMSG #esoteric :256 MB USB sticks are probably close to worthless nowadays
< 1570606401 77451 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-51.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: no they're not
< 1570606414 374135 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-51.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :we use such small sized SD cards for small computers or embedded devices
< 1570606422 606460 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-51.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :where they don't have a built-in flash memory 
< 1570606425 724564 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just realized that trending youtube items seem to be highly regional. i don't like that
< 1570606425 984035 :ais523_!93bcc3db@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.147.188.195.219 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I guess there must be a price floor for storage
< 1570606428 110214 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-51.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but we have to store a small program or data on it
< 1570606446 736832 :ais523_!93bcc3db@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.147.188.195.219 PRIVMSG #esoteric :often you don't need much storage to, e.g., just transport single files around
< 1570606457 857523 :ais523_!93bcc3db@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.147.188.195.219 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: that's nearly always microSD rather than USB, though
< 1570606472 415570 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-51.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, there is a floor, but it's below 1 GB for _slow_ sd cards
< 1570606492 616306 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-51.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, for USB it's less common these days
< 1570606500 857595 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-51.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :everything has micro-sd card readers built in
< 1570606529 129976 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-51.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, it's a bit odd, micro-sd cards with an sd adapter are cheaper than sd cards of the same parameter
< 1570606537 104333 :ais523_!93bcc3db@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.147.188.195.219 PRIVMSG #esoteric :laptops normally have readers for full-size SD cards but nothing smaller, you need the adapter
< 1570606545 899209 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-51.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, and adapters are cheap
< 1570606560 490777 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-51.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've got a lot of them because they give them for practically free with micro-sd cards
< 1570606590 963722 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-51.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also have sd + micro sd combo readers with usb port, but I did have to buy them
< 1570606605 160036 :ais523_!93bcc3db@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.147.188.195.219 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do SD cards compete with USB sticks for storage size nowadays?
< 1570606628 828339 :ais523_!93bcc3db@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.147.188.195.219 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the only real difference the connection they use, or are microSD cards noticeably different in how they operate?
< 1570606691 406946 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-51.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think sd/micro sd cards are usually better, and I prefer them. usb sticks can be better when they're very large capacity, or if you want to keep it on a keychain so you don't lose it
< 1570606717 518559 :ais523_!93bcc3db@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.147.188.195.219 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm doing a backup onto a USB stick right now
< 1570606724 815747 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-51.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't notice them being different in how they operate, but maybe I don't use them enough
< 1570606739 419518 :ais523_!93bcc3db@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.147.188.195.219 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for backup media, it's best for it to not be too physically small because that makes it easier to lose
< 1570606750 704430 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-51.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah
< 1570606825 92694 :ais523_!93bcc3db@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.147.188.195.219 PRIVMSG #esoteric :USB sticks probably also have the advantage when it comes to desktop computers
< 1570606843 69739 :ais523_!93bcc3db@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.147.188.195.219 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because those often don't have a microSD port (sometimes they have one, sometimes not)
< 1570606979 962938 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-51.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wanted to say that I'm genrally good at not losing things, but I'm still looking for the red eyeglasses case that I had with me on my vacation
< 1570606983 691171 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-51.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I don't dare
< 1570607907 280147 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-51.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd like to know if Xykon is still using Dorukan's Cloister spell at his current camp in the north
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< 1570612323 417879 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:aaaa:0:aaaa:0 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar EGSN
< 1570612324 707212 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :No result.
< 1570612334 801768 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:aaaa:0:aaaa:0 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar EGSC
< 1570612334 977983 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :EGSC 090850Z 24012KT 200V260 CAVOK 11/08 Q1003
< 1570612433 635876 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi Taneb
< 1570612459 450468 :Frater_EST!~adrianbib@wsip-68-15-198-210.ok.ok.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1570612494 331420 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:aaaa:0:aaaa:0 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello!
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< 1570612994 701559 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar ESSB
< 1570612995 23508 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :ESSB 090850Z 10007KT 9999 -DZ BKN016 08/06 Q0999
< 1570613172 238622 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:aaaa:0:aaaa:0 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was mostly curious whether EGSN had meta data, it's a tiiiiny airport
< 1570613334 374221 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :longitutde: -0.0425... looks fake :)
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< 1570613412 914942 :ais523_!93bcc3db@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.147.188.195.219 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar EGBB
< 1570613413 176419 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :EGBB 090920Z 24009KT 210V270 9999 FEW017 11/08 Q1003
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< 1570613767 762528 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait... the world's tallest living trees are in the US? what the heck are tropical rainforests for then?
< 1570613788 56602 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :deforestation
< 1570613793 703293 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:aaaa:0:aaaa:0 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Density
< 1570613842 388353 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also quick, relentless growth.
< 1570613933 744634 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow. "Recent reports indicate that trees can survive to be 1000 years old in the Amazonian rain forest." (However, there is very little information on how common these ancient trees are.)
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< 1570621613 161526 :sftp!~sftp@unaffiliated/sftp QUIT :Excess Flood
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< 1570629408 500860 :vertrex!~vertrex@digital-forensic.org QUIT :Changing host
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> 1570629777 754613 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Cthulhu14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=66587&oldid=64478 5* 03Dtuser1337 5* (-183) 10<pre>ified, i had a hard time doing these.
> 1570629867 330025 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Cthulhu14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=66588&oldid=66587 5* 03Dtuser1337 5* (+40) 10Adding some category.
> 1570630031 185747 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Cthulhu14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=66589&oldid=66588 5* 03Dtuser1337 5* (+26) 10MOAR Categories
< 1570630088 567340 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com JOIN :#esoteric
> 1570630098 615802 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Cthulhu14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=66590&oldid=66589 5* 03Dtuser1337 5* (+38) 10Probably object oriented
> 1570630687 938750 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Dtuser1337/Sandbox14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=66591&oldid=66585 5* 03Dtuser1337 5* (+29) 10/* errors */
> 1570631226 209428 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Dtuser1337/Sandbox14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=66592&oldid=66591 5* 03Dtuser1337 5* (+28) 10/* commands */
> 1570631385 222738 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Dtuser1337/Sandbox14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=66593&oldid=66592 5* 03Dtuser1337 5* (+46) 10/* errors */
> 1570631646 145608 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Dtuser1337/Sandbox14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=66594&oldid=66593 5* 03Dtuser1337 5* (+31) 10/* errors */
< 1570631731 560714 :izabera1!~izabera@176.57.231.35.bc.googleusercontent.com NICK :izabera
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< 1570633112 466358 :kritixilithos!~kritixili@gateway/tor-sasl/kritixilithos QUIT :Client Quit
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< 1570635792 365251 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds
< 1570635813 111887 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 NICK :Lord_of_Life
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< 1570650518 200103 :clog_!~nef@bespin.org QUIT :Quit: ^C
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< 1570658817 196918 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-70.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :found the red glasses case. ok, now I can claim that I'm usually good at not losing my things
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