< 1570666851 404026 :atslash!~atslash@46.188.0.82 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1570666868 598344 :atslash!~atslash@static.231.107.9.5.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1570667653 407123 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hups, forgot to log out < 1570668248 100938 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently you didn't say that much < 1570668438 335006 :aloril!~aloril@mobile-access-bcee07-58.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1570669508 402632 :atslash!~atslash@static.231.107.9.5.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1570669540 659622 :atslash!~atslash@static.231.107.9.5.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1570669572 166325 :aloril!~aloril@mobile-access-bcee07-58.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1570673635 401129 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18b982ad.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1570673819 971254 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b982ad.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1570678912 398766 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 JOIN :#esoteric < 1570678917 87407 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1570678993 474009 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 NICK :Lord_of_Life < 1570682733 513030 :AndroUser!~androirc@2a04:cec0:1003:8fa3:0:14:f9c6:f201 JOIN :#esoteric < 1570683423 314877 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT : < 1570683870 737998 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18b982ad.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1570683894 333467 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18b982ad.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1570685189 597205 :FraterEST!~adrianbib@wsip-68-15-198-210.ok.ok.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1570685260 980391 :FraterEST!~adrianbib@wsip-68-15-198-210.ok.ok.cox.net PART :#esoteric < 1570685857 636794 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:995f:fb71:34f0:6daa:b957:29ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1570686663 426854 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9960:35:8d5b:8718:10af:5872 JOIN :#esoteric < 1570687143 358611 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9960:35:8d5b:8718:10af:5872 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1570687770 753931 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18b982ad.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1570687797 563510 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18b982ad.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1570688247 537755 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9960:35:8d5b:8718:10af:5872 JOIN :#esoteric < 1570689160 665792 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1570690393 715372 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-70.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pbflist https://pbfcomics.com/comics/the-talk/ < 1570690394 753867 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :pbflist https://pbfcomics.com/comics/the-talk/: shachaf Sgeo quintopia ion b_jonas Cale < 1570690444 893807 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1570690656 427953 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-70.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah sorry, no olist yet < 1570690668 820114 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-70.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hopefully that will arrive soon too < 1570690728 156641 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how can i get on a list < 1570691218 54655 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :with `` echo kmc >> bin/nameoflist < 1570691249 415871 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-70.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or these days, you can use `` echo $IRC_NICK >> bin/nameoflist < 1570691256 462961 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless someone made a specific command, hm... < 1570691269 193425 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: very convenient < 1570691327 257063 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo $IRC_NICK < 1570691327 976761 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc < 1570691341 730631 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo $IRC_NICK >> bin/pbflist < 1570691343 726413 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1570691715 390342 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-70.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: you may also review our selection of other lists < 1570691727 726862 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-70.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` set -e; cd bin; echo *list < 1570691728 464671 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFlist aglist bardsworthlist bobadventureslist calesyta2016list danddreclist don'taskdon'ttelllist dontaskdonttelllist ehlist emptylist erflist flist idealist ioccclist keenlist list listlist llist makelist makelistlist minimalist mlist olist pbflist slist smlist stylist testlist xkcdwhatiflist ysaclist < 1570691860 583997 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :am i supposed to run listlist when i update a list? < 1570691875 117605 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-70.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` set -e; cd bin; wc -l *list | sort -rn | head -n9 # these are the popular ones < 1570691875 935618 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ 86 total \ 9 slist \ 8 pbflist \ 8 olist \ 6 smlist \ 4 xkcdwhatiflist \ 4 listlist \ 4 dontaskdonttelllist \ 4 don'taskdon'ttelllist < 1570691887 538447 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` paste < bin/ioccclist < 1570691889 668048 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://hack.esolangs.org/tmp/paste/paste.10575 < 1570691929 487433 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is... a bizarre way to do that < 1570691929 574712 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-70.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ioccclist < 1570691930 724550 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :ioccclist is update notification for when a new year of the International Obfuscated C Code Contest is announced, or the winners for a year is announced, or the source codes of winners are released. http://www.ioccc.org/#news < 1570691982 900129 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the fuck is ${@:+ }$@ < 1570692038 297553 :rain2!~My_user_n@unaffiliated/rain1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo rain2 >> bin/ioccclist < 1570692040 43286 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1570692041 570678 :rain2!~My_user_n@unaffiliated/rain1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo rain1 >> bin/ioccclist < 1570692043 243186 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1570692063 65821 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-70.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: prints its argument, with a colon before if it's not empty < 1570692063 948895 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : `` paste < bin/ioccclist <-- paste takes a filename, which has the advantage of using its url if it's exposed to web < 1570692074 393123 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1570692097 546956 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-70.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: so we can invoke lists with an argument that is a url pointing to the news < 1570692126 12115 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-70.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :o is numbered in a regular way, so there we use a strip number instead and the olist script makes a url from that < 1570692137 806411 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-70.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but for most lists we use a full url < 1570692302 30951 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think the olist script makes a url < 1570692332 786782 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-70.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm true, it doesn't < 1570692378 436319 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-70.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/empty/present/ < 1570692396 967799 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION usually visits the archive page first, anyhow, to see the title and check if he's missed one < 1570692399 741100 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-70.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or so I think < 1570692407 118001 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-70.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure how @ works in such a case really < 1570692452 678846 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-70.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I usually visit the archive page to re-read the previous strip before reading the current one. I don't usually miss an o, except when on a long vacation < 1570692528 113147 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-70.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :these days I'm the one who first lists them half of the time < 1570693951 427172 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-24-70.catv.broadband.hu QUIT :Quit: leaving > 1570694379 688658 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Transceternal14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=66595 5* 03Hakerh400 5* (+11850) 10Create a new language > 1570694473 255253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=66596&oldid=66513 5* 03Hakerh400 5* (+20) 10Add a new language to the language list > 1570694490 291093 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Hakerh40014]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=66597&oldid=66037 5* 03Hakerh400 5* (+20) 10 > 1570694593 355496 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Transceternal14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=66598&oldid=66595 5* 03Hakerh400 5* (+6) 10 < 1570694640 659299 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hah. http://blog.hackensplat.com/2011/02/vinegar.html > 1570695615 485942 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Transceternal14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=66599&oldid=66598 5* 03Hakerh400 5* (+24) 10 > 1570696942 116840 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Transceternal14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=66600&oldid=66599 5* 03Hakerh400 5* (+5) 10 < 1570697664 927056 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 JOIN :#esoteric < 1570698316 546984 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1570698984 685765 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`perl -eopen$I,"<","quotes";@A=<$I>;$l=$A[rand@A]; while($l=~/([A-Za-z])/g){ $f{lc$1}++;$g{lc$1}//=$_g++; } $p=join("",sort{$f{$b}<=>$f{$a}||$g{$b}<=>$f{$a}}"a".."z"); $q="etoainsrlhdumcgypfwbkvzjxq"; eval"\$l=~y/$p\U$p\E/$q\U$q/"; print $l; < 1570698985 360615 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ Yar... COG et eo rdeai. :( Et eo tsmeai? < 1570699011 93137 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`perl -eopen$I,"<","quotes";@A=<$I>;$l=$A[rand@A]; while($l=~/([A-Za-z])/g){ $f{lc$1}++;$g{lc$1}//=$_g++; } $p=join("",sort{$f{$b}<=>$f{$a}||$g{$b}<=>$f{$a}}"a".."z"); $q="etoainsrlhdumcgypfwbkvzjxq"; eval"\$l=~y/$p\U$p\E/$q\U$q/"; print $l; < 1570699011 756828 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :OA EOAEW URNEIAUNOMEA DAOMEITDW (CH SOE AUKOT CHA): Th fuaa oyl adi tylroettea, sutt et purtyl otn, hsei soe Cern otn mhrrog BHAFEIT. Gegidtten teotn sd sei Pdliei Lonrei! < 1570699036 330366 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lykaina: ^ random quote transformed by a substitution cipher where the most frequent letter is replaced by "e", the second most frequent by "t", etc < 1570699070 546306 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for some longer quotes with reasonable words, it will get the most frequent letters right, so it does the easy part of solving the cipher for you < 1570699072 215998 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`perl -eopen$I,"<","quotes";@A=<$I>;$l=$A[rand@A]; while($l=~/([A-Za-z])/g){ $f{lc$1}++;$g{lc$1}//=$_g++; } $p=join("",sort{$f{$b}<=>$f{$a}||$g{$b}<=>$f{$a}}"a".."z"); $q="etoainsrlhdumcgypfwbkvzjxq"; eval"\$l=~y/$p\U$p\E/$q\U$q/"; print $l; < 1570699072 969039 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ Fseoaid_Siiytn: Hio'a gt oerap; st'r e mloeauc, oia e dlnhtntn. < 1570699075 477127 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`perl -eopen$I,"<","quotes";@A=<$I>;$l=$A[rand@A]; while($l=~/([A-Za-z])/g){ $f{lc$1}++;$g{lc$1}//=$_g++; } $p=join("",sort{$f{$b}<=>$f{$a}||$g{$b}<=>$f{$a}}"a".."z"); $q="etoainsrlhdumcgypfwbkvzjxq"; eval"\$l=~y/$p\U$p\E/$q\U$q/"; print $l; < 1570699076 104795 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ 22:55 < jpl> Usk tr E ibhhsiof ns fomodsh ispnktlo ea Uticodd ep E wta'n omoa hlohtlo rz hlsgowni ea BRD?! En ioori deco ta erhsiiexdo ntic. UTUT [...] nuei ei trtveay, deco rooneay t Rslrsa sl isronueay < 1570699103 863676 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`perl -eopen$I,"<","quotes";@A=<$I>;$l=$A[rand@A]; while($l=~/([A-Za-z])/g){ $f{lc$1}++;$g{lc$1}//=$_g++; } $p=join("",sort{$f{$b}<=>$f{$a}||$g{$b}<=>$f{$a}}"a".."z"); $q="etoainsrlhdumcgypfwbkvzjxq"; eval"\$l=~y/$p\U$p\E/$q\U$q/"; print $l; < 1570699104 536474 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ Ot's doke uatreuatofoais, yrele tre ievt steh ph wlnu "tlozoad" os "nhei lesealfr jpestoni". "Inhe... In...Tros hlnmdeu fai't me bnie AT ADD. Tros nie--uagme, mpt nidg yotr tyn gaks aib a srelha. ..." < 1570699130 560584 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:aaaa:0:aaaa:0 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wib_jonas: hmm, I wonder how different it would look if you did it digramwise < 1570699153 346955 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:aaaa:0:aaaa:0 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess that's trickier because each symbol can be in two digrams < 1570699153 536803 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm #esoteric-spam < 1570699157 663376 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: you could do a better solver, but I'd add different heuristics, like matching nicks and other common words < 1570699251 62991 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`q 134 < 1570699251 770854 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :134) It's like mathematicians, where the next step up from "trivial" is "open research question". "Nope... No...This problem can't be done AT ALL. This one--maybe, but only with two yaks and a sherpa. ..." < 1570699258 654805 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the last quote it gave < 1570699275 557158 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it got e, t, s, a right < 1570699457 448447 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, we have a genuine password of the month candidate: https://leahneukirchen.org/blog/archive/2019/10/ken-thompson-s-unix-password.html < 1570699482 603275 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :we already have one, though < 1570699571 97914 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is why I'm posting the link, not changing the potm entry < 1570699599 332679 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, it's not necessarily for this month, since the passwords are old too < 1570699609 246652 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(but it's worth clarifying the point, thanks!) < 1570699655 644933 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's kind of interesting that this wasn't in common word lists... it will be from now on :) < 1570699670 549719 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and that goes for all chess moves) < 1570699727 41089 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure, password reuse exists, so we add known passwords to lists < 1570699748 909386 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the exclamation mark is funny) < 1570700017 968288 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :somehow I'm reminded of Countercall < 1570700960 430891 :FaeFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: might help that it used a notation that's AIUI not in common use anymore (re not being in wordlists) < 1570701491 119306 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :FaeFly: sure. "algebraic" notation won < 1570701550 342784 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :FaeFly: But I'm not a chess player and I've encountered this notation before so I'm assuming that at least 10s of thousands people know it :P < 1570701615 782140 :FaeFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :*nod* < 1570702027 149571 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: sure, Lewis Caroll made sure we all meet the obsolete notation < 1570702120 864687 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's that. Though one can enjoy the book without deciphering the chess game (I certainly didn't). < 1570702147 462548 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or "did"? Hrm. Grammar. < 1570702181 960065 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"did" is better, referring to the whole "enjoying the book without deciphering the chess game" notion. < 1570702192 564961 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: istr the chess game itself is hard to decipher, because we don't see all its moves... < 1570702204 481920 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was a question on Stack Exchange about that somewhere < 1570702219 681082 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'm not sure if it was on Chess SE or Sci Fi SE or the new Lit SE < 1570702227 564887 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.6.166.dynamic.ufanet.ru JOIN :#esoteric < 1570702282 935339 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://scifi.stackexchange.com/q/26946/4918 < 1570702290 479160 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the chess game in Through the Looking Glass < 1570702377 852397 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a relief. :) < 1570702401 531390 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I was kind of afraid of there being a sensible game hiding underneath all the silliness.) < 1570702462 626643 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose this is a bit like searching for the real question when pondering HHGttG. < 1570702482 355951 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Or worse, coming up with an explanation involving base 13) < 1570704902 608198 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9960:35:8d5b:8718:10af:5872 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1570705304 985536 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9960:35:8d5b:8718:10af:5872 JOIN :#esoteric > 1570706960 738200 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07BareMinimum14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=66601&oldid=61572 5* 03Joshop 5* (+243) 10Added some "useful subexpressions". > 1570707041 16364 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07BareMinimum14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=66602&oldid=66601 5* 03Joshop 5* (-2) 10 < 1570708997 510779 :iovoid!iovoid@hellomouse/dev/iovoid QUIT :Quit: iovoid has quit! < 1570709298 811729 :iczero!iczero@hellomouse/dev/iczero QUIT :Quit: rip < 1570709405 379387 :iovoid!iovoid@hellomouse/dev/iovoid JOIN :#esoteric < 1570709416 12841 :iczero!iczero@hellomouse/dev/iczero JOIN :#esoteric < 1570717874 890926 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1570719224 674689 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`python3 -cprint(0.0254/4) # how much is 1/4 inch? < 1570719225 511348 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :0.00635 < 1570720133 148269 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? stunlock < 1570720134 197382 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :stunlock? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1570720175 4564 :clog!~nef@bespin.org QUIT :Quit: ^C < 1570720190 10291 :clog!~nef@bespin.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1570720258 108514 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, how many of the sides of a square is one of the longest sides? < 1570720258 339216 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :wib_jonas: it would be sorta pointless to implement these commands, because they're in scope down the whole campbell/ darcs/ schemd5?". < 1570721907 12553 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1570722052 700241 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 JOIN :#esoteric < 1570722095 550076 :sleepnap!~thomas@d14-69-163-248.try.wideopenwest.com PART :#esoteric < 1570722201 356685 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`python3 -cprint(3**5) < 1570722202 20816 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :243 < 1570722218 534810 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.6.166.dynamic.ufanet.ru QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1570722241 391525 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1570722246 965160 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 NICK :Lord_of_Life < 1570722339 871138 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.6.166.dynamic.ufanet.ru JOIN :#esoteric < 1570722956 41448 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: You can make a list with makelist, which automatically runs listlist. < 1570722982 590159 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, no, that's makelistlist. < 1570723000 264090 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :listlist just lists lists. < 1570723013 4906 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`listlist < 1570723013 860715 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFlist* \ aglist* \ bardsworthlist* \ bobadventureslist* \ calesyta2016list* \ danddreclist* \ don'taskdon'ttelllist@ \ dontaskdonttelllist* \ ehlist* \ emptylist* \ erflist* \ flist* \ idealist* \ ioccclist* \ keenlist* \ list* \ listen* \ listlist* \ llist* \ makelist* \ makelistlist* \ minimalist* \ mlist* \ olist* \ pbflist* \ slist* \ smlist* \ stylist* \ testlist* \ xkcdwhatiflist* \ ysaclist* < 1570723051 980902 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a version that only lists lists that don't appear in themselves? < 1570723575 424747 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode JOIN :#esoteric < 1570723735 99549 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1570726025 303629 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1570726217 15308 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1570727684 245231 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-7.catv.broadband.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1570732064 588662 :LKoen!~LKoen@lstlambert-657-1-123-43.w92-154.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1570732419 297833 :LKoen!~LKoen@lstlambert-657-1-123-43.w92-154.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1570732677 33839 :LKoen!~LKoen@81.255.219.130 JOIN :#esoteric < 1570733850 529940 :anima!~androirc@2a04:cec0:1003:8fa3:0:14:f9c6:f201 JOIN :#esoteric < 1570733850 609735 :AndroUser!~androirc@2a04:cec0:1003:8fa3:0:14:f9c6:f201 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1570736321 593583 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1570736920 615780 :LKoen!~LKoen@81.255.219.130 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection > 1570736939 764884 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07BCDFuck14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=66603&oldid=34211 5* 03Rdebath 5* (+1110) 10Some example code. < 1570736984 432984 :LKoen!~LKoen@lstlambert-657-1-123-43.w92-154.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric > 1570737038 418305 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Hello world program in esoteric languages14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=66604&oldid=66404 5* 03Rdebath 5* (+174) 10Add BCDFuck < 1570737103 596925 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds > 1570737105 778703 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Hello world program in esoteric languages14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=66605&oldid=66604 5* 03Rdebath 5* (+2) 10mutter < 1570739840 953090 :tromp!~tromp@2a02:a210:1585:3200:7db5:e327:d7b:89b7 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection > 1570740157 488611 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03MatthewS 5* 10New user account > 1570740403 176235 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Matthew 5* 10New user account < 1570740741 232970 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? keenlist < 1570740742 227648 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :keenlist is notification for when Tom Hall acquires the necessary intellectual property rights to create the videogame series Commander Keen: The Universe is Toast < 1570740889 557141 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-7.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, that one is a bit silly < 1570742151 527775 :tromp!~tromp@2a02:a210:1585:3200:9ab:bf87:79eb:c28d JOIN :#esoteric < 1570742459 543372 :tromp!~tromp@2a02:a210:1585:3200:9ab:bf87:79eb:c28d QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1570742545 965968 :tromp!~tromp@2a02:a210:1585:3200:9ab:bf87:79eb:c28d JOIN :#esoteric < 1570744778 519585 :tromp_!~tromp@2a02:a210:1585:3200:2542:77a1:de01:1799 JOIN :#esoteric < 1570744967 966732 :tromp!~tromp@2a02:a210:1585:3200:9ab:bf87:79eb:c28d QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1570745223 612236 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-7.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :TIL that in Cats, the character that Gus used to play is not called "Firefoefiddle", he's called "Firefrorefiddle", < 1570745235 508628 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-7.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that "frore" is a word that means cold. < 1570745256 445475 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-7.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's strange that I hadn't met that before. if there's such a fancy word for cold, then why is it not used in D&D and other role-playing games? < 1570745264 289203 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-7.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, for spells that invoke the elemental cold < 1570745342 832295 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-7.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :even M:tG doesn't have that in any card title < 1570745363 456813 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You mean in Eliot's poem, _Gus: The Theatre Cat_? < 1570745373 976773 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-7.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, but more so in the musical < 1570745446 167883 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-7.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a rare word, it's not in my Longman dictionary, only the larger Oxford < 1570745477 412505 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-7.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :still, M:tG uses such rare words, and there was a whole Coldsnap set, so it's weird < 1570745679 392818 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-7.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Firefrorefiddle the Fiend of the Fell must have had abilities affecting three D&D elements: fire, cold, and sonic. < 1570746122 641586 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Golly. I'd thought about homogeneous coordinates algebraically, but never geometrically. < 1570746136 479082 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Translation is just obviously rotation around a point at infinity. < 1570746390 892580 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1570747031 920247 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.6.166.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: hm rotations in P(V) around points on an affine map correspond to (some) rotations in V conjugated by a shear, and translations correspond to shears so probably together they unify somehow, though that’s not obvious to me < 1570747065 400627 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1570747079 94138 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.6.166.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :though the intuition seems right to me too < 1570747150 659293 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.6.166.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :not all shears of course, too, they all should be in a special relation with a hyperplane which defines that chosen affine map < 1570747314 751538 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.6.166.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm let me talk about two strange coincedences in math and then I’ll go sleeping < 1570747382 476646 :tromp_!~tromp@2a02:a210:1585:3200:2542:77a1:de01:1799 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1570747678 659412 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.6.166.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :1. a translation is uniquely characterized by one of each initial and final points; a similarity transformation, a pair of each; an affine transformation, a triple; a projective one, a quadruple. I don’t know if there exists something more or less natural for which we need a quintuple. Is there any system in this sequence? I’m afraid no, it’s just some very well-known transformation groups so it seems like a coincidence they arrang < 1570747678 762753 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.6.166.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :e this way < 1570747749 404352 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm currently reading https://slides.com/enkimute/siggraph which talks about all sorts of neat things. < 1570747775 802562 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.6.166.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :2. map sin [0, pi/6, pi/4, pi/3, pi/2] == map (λx. sqrt x / 2) [0, 1, 2, 3, 4] < 1570747803 478291 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.6.166.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: oh, I’ll take a look tomorrow, then < 1570747848 577956 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.6.166.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the second coincidence is confusing but happily mnemonic < 1570747972 233946 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.6.166.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: ooohh!! this is applied Clifford algebra! I hope those slides have that conformal thing explained, why it’s done that way < 1570748029 84370 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-7.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :arseniiv: sure, a projective transformation in d dimensions is characterized by d+2 points, so for five points you want projective transformations in 3 dimensions. < 1570748063 82758 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-7.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :arseniiv: I worked with those in my last job, where at least one project involved 3D reconstruction from 2D camera images < 1570748070 384960 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.6.166.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: ah, yes, I forgot it all stands only for a 3-dimensional space < 1570748091 256231 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.6.166.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should have looked at an arbitrary dimension case < 1570748097 963609 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-7.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :admittedly there we have use or two degrees of freedom less than a full projective transformation < 1570748102 520500 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.6.166.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe the sequence crumbles < 1570748189 576181 :LKoen!~LKoen@lstlambert-657-1-123-43.w92-154.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Quit: “It’s only logical. First you learn to talk, then you learn to think. Too bad it’s not the other way round.” < 1570748203 39351 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-7.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, it's food that crumbles < 1570748340 167994 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.6.166.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :also a while ago I found out there is a common confusion of homogeneous coordinates and, well, unhomogeneous coordinates concerning a use case when we use […, 0] for representing vectors and […, 1] for representing points. This system plays out very nicely but is commonly misattributed to projective stuff when it’s not < 1570748371 784318 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-7.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you may call the non-homogeneous coordinates euclidean < 1570748463 201938 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.6.166.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :This system plays out very nicely => like, if there were only linear operations and the result has form […, 1] or […, 0], then we’ve done a correct affine calculation and the result is corresp. a point or a vector < 1570748550 377599 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.6.166.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: generally we don’t need the overall space to be euclidean, though for simplicity we can take one < 1570748706 18690 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.6.166.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don’t even remember what it should have in general so our points and vectors represented in this way have euclidean structure, the overall thing should be invariant under shears with some special hyperplane fixed < 1570748749 567023 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.6.166.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm I think it gives rise to something Galileian, like the structure of the nonrelativistic spacetime < 1570748807 400325 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.6.166.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :though even that is too much, we’re concerned with two hyperplanes only, not distances between any of them < 1570749016 228523 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.6.166.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :for some reason I’m often interested in ways how can we omit the structure we don’t use in some contexts < 1570749266 916286 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.6.166.dynamic.ufanet.ru QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1570749416 435144 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT : < 1570749743 977607 :tromp!~tromp@2a02:a210:1585:3200:2542:77a1:de01:1799 JOIN :#esoteric < 1570749936 305810 :MDude!~MDude@76.5.108.106 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1570750007 957188 :tromp!~tromp@2a02:a210:1585:3200:2542:77a1:de01:1799 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1570750767 519717 :tromp!~tromp@2a02:a210:1585:3200:71ee:8451:75e9:1592 JOIN :#esoteric < 1570751078 538309 :tromp!~tromp@2a02:a210:1585:3200:71ee:8451:75e9:1592 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1570751395 647182 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode JOIN :#esoteric < 1570751516 71766 :anima!~androirc@2a04:cec0:1003:8fa3:0:14:f9c6:f201 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1570751570 883441 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1570751585 337923 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1570751869 896673 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-7.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, please publish the next o strip < 1570751870 28927 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: i've never read a paper on using source-to-source transformations to compile scheme to c. < 1570751890 206193 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't that Sgeo_'s job? < 1570751906 82140 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-25-7.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a suspiciously specific denial, fungot < 1570751906 237885 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: you subtracted twice the orig value?' as ' swiping blindly'? yes, but