00:04:17 Apologies if this type of message is frowned upon, but I've been working on a programming game that uses an esoteric computer architecture (single instruction), and thought that #esoteric might be the best (only?) place to find people who might be interested in such things 00:05:11 I just put up a page on the language (trying to follow all applicable policies!) and there is a link to the game at the end (under External Resources): https://esolangs.org/wiki/SIC-1_Assembly_Language 00:07:04 Additionally, if anyone knows of any other esoteric programming games, please point me to them! For what it's worth, I've enjoyed Zachtronics's games (esp. TIS-100 -- which I'm surprised isn't represented on esolang!) 00:10:04 -!- Deraj1 has joined. 00:11:17 We've definitely discussed TIS-100. 00:11:42 (I finally bought SHENZHEN I/O the other day, now that it was 50% off.) 00:15:22 As for other games, there's https://esolangs.org/wiki/Category:Programming_games 00:15:48 BF Joust is played in sporadic bursts of activity, though it's been a long time since the last one. 00:15:52 [[Whitespace]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67336&oldid=67125 * SergeJohanns * (+284) /* Truth-machine */ 00:16:34 The others are probably not played. Well, except maybe Core War, that might still be going, it's the most well-known of them of course. 00:16:56 [[Whitespace]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67337&oldid=67336 * SergeJohanns * (+13) Formatted as code 00:22:25 Heh, not sure how I missed the Programming Games category -- thanks! 00:23:06 And yeah, I ran across Core War a little while back, but never really gave it a try 00:26:50 @fizzie have you tried Shenzhen I/O yet? I'm wondering how it compares to TIS-100 (haven't gotten I/O yet) 00:26:50 Unknown command, try @list 00:26:50 -!- oerjan has joined. 00:28:50 Not yet. But I know at least int-e and shachaf did. 00:29:11 I only played a small amount of it. 00:32:10 shachaf, is that "only played a small amount because that's all I had time for" or "only played a small amount because it wasn't really what I was looking for"? :) 00:32:15 * A * (+379) Just saw Bin-8 and it is really amazing! <-- is e being sarcastic, or admitting to being the same person? 00:34:24 Probably more the latter? 00:36:21 * oerjan briefly misinterpreted shachaf as responding to him 00:37:14 i suppose you might going for a schrödingmsg 00:37:18 *might be 00:40:27 you know how we have several quotes where fungоt gives an amusingly appropriate reply? we should try to brute force more of those [...] <-- that's cheating tdnh 00:41:17 if you're not surprised when it happens, it's not a good quote. 00:42:09 Most of those quotes are borderline anyway. 00:42:51 true enough. fungot gets a lot of slack due to his charisma and cute looks. 00:42:51 oerjan: i guess it is harder than being a vegetarian. :p i'm not sure what 00:43:33 `5 00:43:35 1/2:383) you know that thing in the movies where they put a pillow on someone's face and try to suffocate them that doesn't work. we tried that with my ex once, but we just couldn't kill each other that way \ 580) I am just saying something that I think I once saw some idea somewhere, I forget, was it on television? \ 151) fizzie: I can never tell with OpenBSD! everything looks lik 00:43:38 `n 00:43:39 2/2:e an error anyway \ 1244) izabera: It's sort of like the principal, as far as I know. Except It only prints " BOTTLES OF BEER ON THE WALL!" Counting down from 99 to 0. With no line breaks. \ 461) i started running and smoking i love my lungs the way they are so trying to balance them out 00:44:02 Remember the good old pre-n times? 00:44:28 paradoxically, we deleted more quotes then. 00:49:09 -!- tahw has joined. 00:51:19 `emoclew tahw 00:51:21 ​(.tenLAD ro tenFE no ciretose# yrt ,aciretose fo dnik rehto eht roF) . :ikiw ruo tuo kcehc ,noitamrofni erom roF !tnemyolped dna ngised egaugnal gnimmargorp ciretose rof buh lanoitanretni eht ot emocleW :what 00:51:57 hi. 00:52:34 `? ciretose 00:52:35 ciretose? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ 00:55:13 `learn ciretose# is #esoteric's evil twin. It's all full of sickly sweet messages. 00:55:15 Learned 'ciretose#': ciretose# is #esoteric's evil twin. It's all full of sickly sweet messages. 00:56:05 -!- Deraj has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 00:56:37 hm Deraj also seems a little reversed. maybe they're invading. 00:57:03 no affiliation. 00:57:54 Deraj seems to be devading if anything. 01:00:48 that may be just a ruse. 01:01:09 especially since e's still here. 01:02:34 -!- tahw has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 01:03:33 i hope e didn't take us seriously. 01:03:44 well, me. 01:06:22 [[SIC-1 Assembly Language]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67338&oldid=67335 * Deraj * (+98) 01:08:20 [[Subleq]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67339&oldid=63180 * Deraj * (+144) 01:09:10 Still here -- my IRC client kept disconnecting, so I joined with a different one 01:15:24 On the wiki, it looks like the "Programming games" category page doesn't have anything linking to it (per the "What links here" link) -- any reason it shouldn't be on the Categories page (e.g. having a game isn't a property of the language)? 01:26:19 Deraj1: technically that category was created against policy, but we've long ago slipped on actually enforcing it. 01:26:44 I read the Wikipedia article about ReDoS; can some implementations of regular expressions optimize the specified regular expressions? It look like to me that optimization is possible 01:26:45 (it _should_ have been discussed on the Esolang talk:Categories page first.) 01:27:35 Such as optimizing /(a+)+/ as /a+/ and /(a|aa)+/ as /a+/ also 01:28:11 And /(a|a?)+/ as /a*/ 01:29:01 the very existence of the policy is probably discouraging us from cleaning up such stuff, since we'd be supposed to do the discussion part first. 01:30:10 * oerjan considers doing the sensible thing 01:30:31 * oerjan gets a bad feeling about it, as usual. 01:30:42 If a policy is no good, don't use it. 01:31:11 well what i was considering was proposing to abolish it. 01:31:14 oerjan, thanks. From my outsider's perspective, I think the policy for discussing before creating makes sense... not sure discussing before undoing/deleting seems necessary 01:31:48 Deraj1: well i think this particular category would be good to have. 01:32:11 Gotcha 01:32:15 I think discussing should be needed before deleting (unless it is clear is not helpful to do), but not necessary for undoing unless it is subsequently redone and undone 01:34:26 Just to clarify, I meant that if some random person (e.g. me) came in and (probably inadvertently) made a change that went against policy, undoing that change without discussion seems sensible. Sort of a "nip it in the bud" approach so mistakes don't spread 01:35:31 Yes, I did say discussion should not normally be necessary for undoing, due to that 01:35:50 Anyway, oerjan, I specifically searched esolang for programming games, so at least one person would have found that surfacing that category better useful. But I also think having a game isn't a property of a programming language, and so I could see a reasonable argument for eliminating the "Programming game" category if you want to keep esolang focused on just the languages themselves 01:36:23 In other words, I'm not helpful :) 01:36:47 I think there are uses to add such categories especially if there is a significant number of articles that would belong. 01:37:05 (In some cases categories are not needed because you have namespaces.) 01:37:51 Deraj1: we have some languages that are _clearly_ games, like BFJoust. 01:38:04 the mention in Agony is borderline though. 01:38:26 also, we have many articles that are not languages 01:39:09 Yes, that is why you will have a category for the articles that are languages, so that you can omit the articles that are not languages. 01:41:44 Makes sense. Seems like a useful/appropriate category to me then 01:44:46 -!- \oren\ has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 02:15:56 -!- Deraj1 has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 02:25:24 They recommend we should add keywords for "sql", "is sql a programming language" and "windows 98", these are "keywords driving traffic to competitors but not this site". <-- i think zzo38 has done enough esoteric stuff in sql that the first suggestion nearly makes sense 02:27:32 is windows 98 a programming language 02:33:42 [[Deadfish]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67340&oldid=66586 * Oerjan * (-4) /* GNU bc */ This must be wrong 02:36:22 [[Deadfish]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67341&oldid=67340 * Oerjan * (+1) /* C++ Codegolfed */ I've been away from this page too long... 02:39:47 [[Deadfish]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67342&oldid=67341 * Oerjan * (-112) /* Deadfish "self-interpreter" */ Remove this nonsense 02:41:01 as usual, our ability to check entries for bugs decreases steeply with esotericness 02:42:37 Wait, why is turning > into == golfing? 02:43:52 Oh, the name of the section is "C++ Codegolfed". I just saw the diff. 02:45:39 To be fair, it's not particularly golfed in the first place. 02:45:57 Yes. 02:46:06 Oh, it's by the person who may or may not be A. 02:46:10 I guess that person isn't A? 02:47:01 -!- Deraj1 has joined. 02:47:06 I certainly wouldn't give that program an A. 02:49:13 [[Deadfish]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67343&oldid=67342 * Oerjan * (-8741) /* Powder */ I'm removing this on the principle that a Deadfish interpreter must at *least* support up to 17*17 == 289 02:59:00 [[Deadfish]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67344&oldid=67343 * Fizzie * (+63) /* Go */ Support multiple commands per line, avoid panic at EOF 02:59:23 [[Deadfish]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67345&oldid=67344 * Oerjan * (+307) /* Example programs */ I'm editing this in as policy 03:06:30 [[Deadfish]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67346&oldid=67345 * Oerjan * (-961) /* Seabass */ mv 03:08:39 [[Deadfish]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67347&oldid=67346 * Oerjan * (+961) /* Seed7 */ -> mv 03:10:06 argh 03:15:21 the sed one is wrong but how does it work... 03:17:47 Looks unary to me. With a decimal conversion based on matching multiples of ten. 03:19:31 Didn't see anything like the 256 rule, but that should be quite possible to add, just s/^;\{256\}$// in the right place. 03:21:12 [[Deadfish]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67348&oldid=67347 * Oerjan * (-214) /* (GNU) sed */ correct and mv 03:21:42 [[Deadfish]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67349&oldid=67348 * Oerjan * (+239) /* Seabass */ -> mv 03:23:17 fizzie: yeah i just needed to look up the hold space commands 03:24:15 hmph Thue as well 03:26:06 argh 03:38:33 hm *| seems to signal readiness for another command, should be possible to insert the check there 03:40:22 -!- imode has joined. 03:42:05 [[Deadfish]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67350&oldid=67349 * Oerjan * (-768) /* Thue */ mv -> 03:42:13 [[Deadfish]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67351&oldid=67350 * Oerjan * (+768) /* This=That */ -> mv 03:45:28 [[Deadfish]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67352&oldid=67351 * Oerjan * (+116) Undo revision 67342 by [[Special:Contributions/Oerjan|Oerjan]] ([[User talk:Oerjan|talk]]) (apparently this is actually a language, which the lack of link did nothing to clarify) 03:48:15 ok that "fixes" everything other than the Thue problem since my last edit back in January 03:48:45 (everything i can judge, anyway) 03:52:31 the Thue may be fixable but i'd need to understand the program first 03:55:44 quick poll: harvard architecture or von neumann? 04:05:22 -!- MDude has joined. 04:08:29 -!- Deraj1 has quit (Quit: Leaving). 04:42:34 -!- Znon369 has joined. 04:42:54 -!- Znon369 has left ("Quit"). 04:51:07 -!- xkapastel has joined. 05:24:33 -!- divergence has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds). 05:26:38 -!- diverger has joined. 05:44:23 -!- imode has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 06:49:28 [[Deadfish]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67353&oldid=67352 * Kritixilithos * (-5) /* (GNU) sed */ removed superfluous /^/ check 06:51:17 -!- kritixilithos has joined. 06:52:35 oerjan: yes, the sed solution stores the number as unary and converts to decimal to output 06:53:07 and I removed the /^/ check 06:53:55 does the wiki not have something to automatically sort entries? 06:59:00 -!- b_jonas has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 07:01:38 Windows 98 is not a programming language, I think, but SQL is a programming language. 07:10:49 -!- xkapastel has quit (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity). 07:13:07 kritixilithos: thanks 07:13:22 -!- xkapastel has joined. 07:14:34 i don't know about sorting sections (and some of them are not sorted by the literal section name) 07:19:35 hm it may not be possible other than for tables 07:22:21 argh realised my decimal-to-unary converter borks for 99 07:23:37 can be fixed with one ugly byte 07:42:17 [[Deadfish]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67354&oldid=67353 * Kritixilithos * (-20) /* (GNU) sed */ fixed decunary bug with 9s and golfed 07:43:02 esowiki can't print non-ascii chars? I had a '→' in there 07:43:21 shouldn't be a problem... 07:43:43 oh the bot? right, it can't 07:43:53 or doesn't :) 07:44:17 something about the mediawiki irc interface 07:44:21 . o O ( Interesting problem of word choice when it comes to a program :) ) 07:44:42 i mean, the problem is in a mediawiki component iirc 07:44:49 ah 07:44:49 . o O ( When you say that a program cannot do something, do you allow for the possibility of somebody patching it so it can? ) 07:44:51 fizzie: ^ 08:00:00 -!- kritixilithos has quit (Quit: quit). 08:19:08 [[Realm]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67355&oldid=65708 * Hakerh400 * (-30) Updated paradigm 08:21:49 -!- oerjan has quit (Quit: Nite). 08:59:57 Why is there sometimes problems having to do with television captions containing apostrophes? 09:01:08 . o O ( What's television? ) 09:01:24 -!- iczero has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 09:01:34 But it's probably a Unicode problem ;-) 09:01:42 -!- iczero has joined. 09:02:14 (Actually that's redundant, should write "But it's probably Unicode") 09:02:56 -!- kspalaiologos has joined. 09:04:05 @tell imode von neumann for sure, it's way more fun 09:04:05 Consider it noted. 09:05:39 Hmm, why does the Harvard architecture not have a person's name attached to it. 09:06:04 `? unicode 09:06:07 Unicode is a mess invented in 1988 by Xerox, Microsoft, the Spanish Inquisition, and the evil Human Supremacy Corporation, in order to make it easier for the government to spy on Chinese people. 09:07:30 `? ascii 09:07:31 Ascii is the plural of ascius, "of or pertaining to southern countries, near the equator". 09:10:22 `unidecode ↈ 09:10:22 ​[U+2188 ROMAN NUMERAL ONE HUNDRED THOUSAND] 09:12:46 Television captions do not use Unicode. 09:13:19 I have seen in one show all apostrophes were replaced by "4". In another show, all lines got cut off after the first apostrophe on that line. In another show, each apostrophe was doubled after some amount of space, which varied. 09:23:16 Can it be detected by C preprocessor to check for BSD or GNU system? 09:23:56 zzo38: It doesn't really matter whether the captions themselves use Unicode though. 09:24:23 It just has to be somewhere in the processing pipeline. 09:24:43 int-e: OK, yes, I suppose you are correct; that might be. 09:25:30 And (obviously, I hope) I know nothing about this. 09:25:31 This problem seems to be mainly with apostrophes whenever it occurs (although most captions with apostrophes do not have these problems) 09:27:39 . o O ( Which is your favorite "apostrophe"? '`’‘′ ) 09:28:03 (I probably missed a couple.) 09:28:29 The ASCII apostrophe ' 09:31:03 (If they used ASCII to write the captions rather than Unicode, then it shouldn't be the problem because the ASCII code for the apostrophe is the same as the EIA-608 code for the apostrophe. There are some characters difference, but apostrophe isn't one of them.) 11:07:29 [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * OND * New user account 11:14:14 [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67356&oldid=67334 * OND * (+219) /* Introductions */ 11:15:22 [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67357&oldid=67356 * OND * (+17) 11:25:07 [[Talk:Chef]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67358&oldid=11223 * OND * (+714) /* Chef / Portal ? */ 11:28:01 -!- nico_nico has joined. 11:29:34 [[Talk:Chef]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67359&oldid=67358 * Palaiologos * (+326) 11:31:19 -!- arseniiv has joined. 11:35:31 -!- nico_nico has quit (Quit: WeeChat 2.6). 11:35:40 -!- nico_nico has joined. 11:39:13 -!- nico_nico has quit (Client Quit). 11:39:23 -!- nico_nico has joined. 11:42:43 -!- nico_nico has quit (Client Quit). 12:06:15 -!- b_jonas has joined. 12:28:18 maybe it's one of those stupid filters that remove apostrophes supposedly with the goal of stopping SQL injectinos 12:33:39 @tell oerjan Actually, it might have been in the bot, not in the MediaWiki component. I wanted to filter out control characters (0-2, 4-31, 127) but due to signedness of char I may have intentionally also filtered all bytes >127 as well. 12:33:39 Consider it noted. 12:53:27 oh that was the problem. damn you ebay for not giving a specific enough error message 12:55:16 in the checkout, ebay gave me an error message at the step when I tried to change the currency for paypal payment. this reoccured on all retries so I couldn't pay. 12:56:07 solution is to pay the two sellers in my checkout separately. 13:12:00 oh the other hand, look, they fixed the interface that displays the Paypal currency conversion rate on ebay's checkout page! 13:12:22 it no longer says "1 HUF = 0.00 AUD", it says "1 HUF = 0.0046 AUD" now 13:21:12 -!- nico_nico has joined. 13:39:36 [[User:PythonshellDebugwindow]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67360&oldid=67196 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+51) 13:40:15 [[User:PythonshellDebugwindow]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67361&oldid=67360 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+4) 13:50:49 -!- xkapastel has quit (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity). 15:09:03 -!- Soni has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 15:11:12 I'm building brainfuck-to-anything transpiler in Brainfuck 15:11:28 something like awib but kinda better 15:12:23 [[User:Palaiologos]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67362&oldid=67331 * Palaiologos * (+157) Current work 15:20:25 -!- unlimiter has joined. 15:32:18 -!- Soni has joined. 15:55:11 -!- imode has joined. 16:20:12 -!- lifthrasiir has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 16:21:26 -!- lifthrasiir has joined. 16:35:26 -!- Soni has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 16:35:49 -!- Soni has joined. 16:39:06 -!- xkapastel has joined. 17:18:04 -!- nico_nico has quit (Quit: WeeChat 2.6). 17:21:58 -!- Cale has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 17:34:19 -!- Cale has joined. 17:48:38 -!- Lord_of_Life has joined. 17:59:20 [[Arch]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67363&oldid=66073 * SergeJohanns * (-1) /* Cells & SPLIT */ 18:00:18 [[Arch]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67364&oldid=67363 * SergeJohanns * (+0) /* POINT */ 18:07:18 this is totally not esolang related, but it is a puzzle. I have an image that I know is rendered using a heightmap as reference, but I don't know the rules used to render and construct the heightmap: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/374727754551132162/647843802220068874/XikClZ6.png 18:07:51 if someone asked me for an opinion 18:08:03 from what I can see, it's a tile-based heightmap. 18:08:03 of a person that remembers it thru the fog 18:08:22 red represents points high above sea level 18:08:25 and blue represent ones below 18:08:32 the lines are used to mark changes of terrain 18:08:58 everything enclosed by this fancy circle is located above everything outside 18:09:32 my working theory is: given a tile at (x, y), all of distance 1 away from that tile all have to have a heightmap difference of 1 from the source tile. 18:09:48 meaning from any tile to any other tile, there has to be a height distance of 1. 18:10:14 you can't have one tile 2 tiles higher than another tile. 18:10:30 this is interesting. 18:13:47 http://i.imgur.com/3qGMZtS.png a similar situation. perplexing. 18:15:50 b_jonas: One of them cut off everything after the apostrophe, not the apostrophe itself. I didn't see the one that just stripped out the apostrophe. 18:27:13 -!- Lord_of_Life has quit (Quit: Laa shay'a waqi'un moutlaq bale kouloun moumkine). 18:36:24 -!- Lord_of_Life has joined. 18:44:56 [[User:SergeJohanns]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=67365 * SergeJohanns * (+537) Created page with "Hello there, I'm Serge. I'm a CS and Applied Maths major with an interest in esolangs. I first got into Brainfuck, but I'm also interested in stack-based languages like befung..." 18:51:16 -!- Lord_of_Life has quit (Quit: Laa shay'a waqi'un moutlaq bale kouloun moumkine). 18:53:42 -!- Lord_of_Life has joined. 19:05:17 [[User talk:Palaiologos]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67366&oldid=67299 * Palaiologos * (+787) b2all 19:05:57 [[User talk:Palaiologos]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67367&oldid=67366 * Palaiologos * (+41) My nick on #esoteric 19:06:15 ^-- someone willing to help with b2all by donating a backend? 19:06:21 while keeping the copyright obviously 19:09:23 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/374727754551132162/647876286936645695/2019-11-23-110839_1600x900_scrot.png figured it out. 19:10:47 that's some dope ass workspace setup 19:10:52 is it some kind of customized tmux? 19:10:58 I recognize irssi 19:11:04 and nano 19:11:07 weechat and i3. 19:11:34 the font is lovely tho 19:12:13 it's great 19:12:14 I love it 19:12:46 font is proggyclean. 19:13:10 https://hatebin.com/oaimonphqn here's my i3 config. 19:13:20 I'm actually a cmd peasant 19:13:33 and I use heavily customized csh 19:13:37 on source level 19:14:01 http://prntscr.com/q13g8u 19:14:23 cmd's font can't render powerline characters 19:14:26 so I'm screwed on that one 19:15:20 that does suck. 19:16:06 so yeah 19:16:10 my working conditions are terrible 19:16:15 and I'm inproductive as heck 19:16:40 migrate to a tiling wm. 19:17:10 I wish I could use vi well enough for it to be more convinient to use than notepad++ 19:17:24 but vi would bump my productivity a couple of times if I mastered it 19:17:33 and I don't really fancy learning next thing in my free time 19:17:56 I'm stuck with dwm that presumes 19:18:12 albeit I can write really fast on a keyboard, I can't get used to shortcuts really 19:18:46 I like to use the "Fixed" font. What terminal emulator are you using though? 19:18:59 me? 19:19:20 xterm. 19:19:23 `font 19:19:24 ​/srv/hackeso-code/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: font: not found 19:19:28 `? font 19:19:29 ​#esoteric bitmap fonts include: \oren\'s font http://www.orenwatson.be/fontdemo.htm , lifthrasiir's font https://github.com/lifthrasiir/unison/ , b_jonas's font http://www.math.bme.hu/~ambrus/pu/fecupboard20-c.pcf.gz , fizzie's font https://github.com/fis/rfk86/tree/master/web/font , FireFly's fonts http://xen.firefly.nu/up/fonts/ 19:19:30 I am using xterm also 19:19:36 kspalaiologos: ^ we have some official #esoteric fonts 19:20:11 oren's font looks dank 19:20:19 I may use it on some occasion 19:20:37 unison 19:20:50 's feeling is quite nice but letter shapes are quite bad 19:20:54 https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/374727754551132162/647879240074788884/2019-11-23-112033_1600x900_scrot.png?width=877&height=494 19:21:00 another shot of a small clearing. 19:21:13 should probably color the backdrop green or something. 19:21:19 b_jonas, I can't view your font 19:21:22 no idea what format is it 19:21:53 It seems to be pcf format? X window system should be able to load it 19:22:15 [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * AethanCervisiolus * New user account 19:22:37 I'm on Windows 19:23:00 I think FreeType can read it even on Windows 19:23:35 FireFly's font is amazing too 19:23:49 which one of them? 19:24:02 I just like doing tiny bitmap things 19:24:08 9x5 and 7x5 19:24:14 other look a tiny bit gibberish 19:24:19 but these are perfect 19:24:26 I would want a version of Fixed using my "terminal emulation character set" as the character coding, rather than ISO-8859-1 or Unicode. 19:25:14 FireFly, could you send me a ttf? 19:25:22 because I'd like to use it 19:25:27 no, I don't have one 19:25:44 ah, that's a shame 19:26:05 you can copy out a bdf from the textbox to the right I believe 19:26:22 which you could use as is or convert to other formats perhaps.. I know I've gotten it to work in xterm with the bdf 19:26:36 but I don't remember exactly how; fonts are a bit of a dark art 19:27:31 http://xen.firefly.nu/up/fonts/7x5px-font.png is the "source" format for my bitmap fonts, then I have some janky JS parse the glyphs out of that 19:27:34 Convert to pcf and then put it in the X fonts directory, and then you can use it with xterm and other programs that support the X font system 19:27:45 ah, well there you go 19:27:46 do that :p 19:29:10 Type "xset q" to list the font path, and "xset fp rehash" forces the server to reread the font databases if necessary 19:33:26 [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * Enenbee * New user account 19:35:36 -!- sftp_ has joined. 19:36:15 [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67368&oldid=67357 * Enenbee * (+124) 19:37:38 -!- sftp has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds). 19:37:38 -!- sftp_ has changed nick to sftp. 19:38:28 [[User:Enenbee]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=67369 * Enenbee * (+71) Created page with "I have not made any programming languages yet, but I am working on one!" 19:39:09 -!- Frater_EST has joined. 19:39:14 zzo38: fecupboard20 has some fancy graphical stuff at the control character places 19:40:32 b_jonas: What fancy stuff? (I have not downloaded the font, so I haven't looked) 19:44:35 zzo38: there are some line drawing characters, at the place where xterm would expect it in a non-unicode font; some cp437 graphical characters like the smiley face; and thin versions of the cp437 letters at the C1 control positions of iso-8859-1 19:44:58 you get copies of the line drawing and low control 437 graphical characters up high in unicode positions 19:45:13 the cp437 letters are mostly for debugging in case they're shown for some reason 19:45:24 but you almost never see these because terminal emulators just won't print control characters 19:46:35 OK 19:49:07 I've taken on a very ambitious goal of learning modern Latin 19:49:31 it's some kind of an esoteric spoken language for todays standards lol 19:50:31 The Catholic Church still uses Latin though, and sometimes has to make up new words for stuff that didn't exist before, such as television 19:50:50 -!- xkapastel has quit (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity). 19:52:25 making up a latin word for television must be hard 19:52:40 :) 19:56:20 I think it is "instrumentum televisificum" 20:07:14 -!- imode has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 20:12:44 -!- unlimiter has quit (Quit: WeeChat 2.6). 20:16:06 -!- imode has joined. 20:29:28 tantumvideri 20:29:29 is my bet 20:29:31 for television 20:37:05 -!- kspalaiologos has quit (Quit: Leaving). 20:49:16 -!- imode has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 21:08:37 -!- kspalaiologos has joined. 21:39:59 [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * Alex-franczyk * New user account 22:39:38 -!- arseniiv has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 23:00:03 -!- kspalaiologos has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds). 23:06:07 Aw. Tried to link something containing protobufs with -static, and now it segfaults before main. (Via: _start -> static initializers -> proto stuff -> google::protobuf::internal::InitSCC -> google::protobuf::internal::InitSCCImpl -> call to address 0.) 23:12:54 Fair enough: there's a "callq 0x0" instruction in the code. 23:17:14 -!- Hooloo42 has quit (Quit: Temporarily refracted into a free-standing prism.). 23:20:02 From looking at libprotobuf.a, there's supposed to be a relocation there to make it a call to pthread_self. 23:20:02 -!- Hooloovo0 has joined. 23:23:06 -!- imode has joined. 23:33:37 -!- Frater_EST has left. 23:34:41 I read that Librem phone has the radio processor doesn't talk directly to the microphone. Does that make it possible to send and receive faxes?