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00:14:39 <arseniiv> <imode-ruby> forth is like baking a cake with only two hands instead of the support of a countertop. ==> ooh a good metaphor. I do sometimes think two hands is not enough 
00:50:03 <imode-ruby> yeah, now I have to figure out how to give a user N number of hands. :) 
00:53:09 <imode-ruby> or give the _illusion_ that they have an N number of hands... 
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01:11:04 <arseniiv> imode-ruby: illusion may be as hard 
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01:16:34 <imode-ruby> another problem Mode has is the idea of code duplication. everything's done via inline macros so if you have a chunk of code _you're going to plop a new copy down everywhere you use it_. 
01:17:29 <imode-ruby> this is both good and bad... compression takes care of that in some way. still working on a compile and runtime solution to that. 
01:20:37 <imode-ruby> it's almost the inverse of the inlining problem. everything you define is inlined by default. not very much of a problem but it does matter when the resulting code size is giant. 
01:29:41 <oerjan> . o O ( wouldn't that be the outlining problem ) 
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03:11:14 <fungot> oerjan: somewhere between 2 and 5 years was a bit confused about the distiction because of code-as-data. see you 
03:11:33 <oerjan> thanks, that explains it 
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03:14:10 <shachaf> Should I put parent pointers in my tree nodes? 
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03:25:16 <int-e> maybe, but not if you want a persistent data structure 
03:26:34 <shachaf> The alternative (which I'm using now) is to have "cursors" into the tree contain a stack rather than just a node pointer. 
03:27:54 <int-e> next you'll be inventing zippers 
03:30:01 <int-e> fungot: can you solve a megaminx? 
03:30:02 <fungot> int-e: and not backspace... can be translated 
03:31:41 <shachaf> int-e: Is that like a megamix? 
03:32:19 <int-e> It's a Rubik's cube, but dodecahedrical. 
03:32:27 <shachaf> Persistent data structures are kind of a scam, I think. 
03:32:33 <shachaf> You rarely need them and they're very expensive. 
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03:48:52 <HackEso> moo:Moo is the sound made by a cow as it freezes. 
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09:59:08 <FireFly> uh, didn't know that works with a dot 
10:10:16 <FireFly> bunnyocto: you're applying them monadically, not as a train 
10:10:51 <FireFly> asuming you meant product over length 
10:13:15 <FireFly> monadic % is reciprocal, so that' a bit different :p 
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19:04:29 <b_jonas> fungot, when is the U.S. senate eating the peaches? 
19:04:29 <fungot> b_jonas: the syntax is much nicer than oko-in-c amirite) that was written in sicp? 
19:05:45 <b_jonas> fungot, is Elon Musk secretly Satoshi? 
19:05:45 <fungot> b_jonas: and butt-ugly :d :d :d), i configured my irc client.) in our example 
19:06:08 <b_jonas> yes, I configured my irc client too 
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19:14:03 <j-bot> bunnyocto: 4 3 2 1 
19:14:19 <j-bot> bunnyocto: |syntax error 
19:14:19 <j-bot> bunnyocto: |       //1 2 3 4 
19:14:30 <j-bot> bunnyocto: |syntax error 
19:14:30 <j-bot> bunnyocto: |       /*1 2 3 4 
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19:32:36 <FireFly> (because all verb application is right-to-left) 
19:35:10 <lambdabot>      • Couldn't match expected type ‘a -> a -> a’ 
19:37:06 <FireFly> I don't know of a super concise way 
19:37:49 <FireFly> b_jonas might have some idea 
19:40:07 <bunnyocto> > let (-/) = foldl1 (-) in (-/) [1,2,3,4] 
19:40:24 <bunnyocto> who needs J. You can just define weird operators in Haskell. 
19:40:39 <kmc> weird scenes inside the gold mine 
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19:50:39 <b_jonas> what do you want to solve? 
19:52:57 <b_jonas> ``` python3 '-cimport sys, numpy; v = numpy.float_(sys.argv[1].split()); print(v[0]-v[1:].sum())' '1 2 3 4' 
19:53:45 <b_jonas> ``` python3 '-cimport sys; v = list(map(float, sys.argv[1].split())); print(v[0]-sum(v[1:]))' '1 2 3 4' 
20:01:07 <fizzie> Who needs Haskell when you've got Scheme. 
20:01:49 <b_jonas> oh yeah, that's a good one 
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20:06:34 <fizzie> -~/|. looks like one of those animated spinners except the backspace isn't working and someone's tried to make it a little more lively than the standard spinny -/|\ thing. 
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