< 1575158406 338616 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-141.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I don't know what the indigestion refers to
< 1575158421 81713 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-141.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that some befunge thing?
< 1575158549 745674 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I believe it's also an C-INTERCAL error message.
< 1575158585 453344 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/calvinmetcalf/intercal/blob/8a65e8b/doc/ick.txi#L1916
< 1575158589 126245 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-141.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so two references to intercal? ok
< 1575158647 603226 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it's well-known.
< 1575158674 624834 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-141.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, because we haven't featured befunge on the wiki yet
< 1575158678 784147 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-141.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :we should feature it
< 1575158694 409467 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-141.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`dateu
< 1575158695 168601 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :2019-12-01 00:04:54.766 +0000 UTC December 1 Sunday 2019-W48-7
< 1575158698 589630 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-141.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? password
< 1575158699 876902 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :The password of the month is mostly irrelevant.
< 1575158716 552091 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-141.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` hg log -T "{date|shortdate}  " password
< 1575158717 840374 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1575158724 888632 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-141.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` hg log -T "{date|shortdate}  " /hackenv/wisdom/password
< 1575158726 213956 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :2019-11-04  2019-11-04  2019-10-01  2019-09-01  2019-08-01  2019-07-01  2019-06-02  2019-05-01  2019-04-09  2019-03-30  2019-02-04  2019-02-03  2019-01-01  2018-12-01  2018-11-01  2018-10-02  2018-09-05  2018-08-03  2018-07-20  2018-06-03  2018-05-05  2018-04-14  2018-04-14  2018-03-07  2018-02-15  2017-12-31  2017-12-01  2017-12-01  2017-11-04  2017-10-01  2017-09-02  2017-08-22  2017-08-16  2017-07-11  2017-06-02  2017-06-02  2017-06-02  201
< 1575158744 55364 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-141.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: ^
< 1575158770 774972 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wut?
< 1575158790 46395 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Every time the topic of featured languages comes up, my first thoughts are "we should feature Befunge" and "but the article should be made better first".
< 1575159022 109907 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-7.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then, make the article better first please.
< 1575159067 481757 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I agree that would be great.
< 1575159120 528308 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-141.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the Befunge article isn't good enough?
< 1575159145 376739 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-141.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought it was good enough, it just wasn't featured yet because the previous feature was too recent
< 1575159242 718137 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-141.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: that's useful info though, because if you think that we should feature befunge then I can revoke my suggestion and suggest featuring a different language
< 1575159251 280295 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-141.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nopfunge for example
< 1575159930 404753 :Frater_EST!~adrianbib@107-216-155-19.lightspeed.tulsok.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1575160487 715564 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :some reason befunge always reminds me of doom cacodemon floating around;  its the < >  look like thorns i think
< 1575160551 792742 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :combine with ff6 mr. chupon says "fungahhhh!" or similar
< 1575160563 598249 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats not a complaint, just an observation
< 1575160605 172183 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and potential mascots)
< 1575161340 290295 :nchambers!znc@learnprogramming/staff/nchambers JOIN :#esoteric
< 1575161429 124136 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`5 w
< 1575161431 605402 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :1/2:dc//dc is short for "dump core". (try it out yourself: dc -e '[') \ canaima//Canaima is a secret Venezuelan project to overrun #esoteric with incomprehensible people who have no idea why they're here. \ middle worse//Mïðal VVőrszü vvoràði nyëlv spöket af magyar inva̋ðereknek leszármazottai Herefördshirben äppröxima̋tely 1250. \ invention//Invention is the daughter of necessity. \ morphism//A morphism is just a natu
< 1575161433 122021 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`n
< 1575161433 936390 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :2/2:ral transformation between two diagrams of shape 1.
< 1575161520 620831 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cwlprits morphism
< 1575161527 867492 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachäf tsweẗt oerjän shachäf ellioẗt oerjän fizzïe GreyKnigḧt GreyKnigḧt GreyKnigḧt
< 1575161566 886655 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` dc -e '['  # no core dump
< 1575161567 745949 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1575161617 413455 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`dowg password
< 1575161617 702513 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was pretty sure I contributed to that in no way, but apparently I just added the word "just" in it.
< 1575161619 290042 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :11998:2019-11-04 <ais523̈_> le//rn password//The password of the month is mostly irrelevant. \ 11997:2019-11-04 <ais523̈_> le//rn password//The password of the month is mostly irrelvant. \ 11958:2019-10-01 <arseniïv> learn The password of the month is not what it seems \ 11925:2019-09-01 <oerjän> learn The password of the month is ninjaed. \ 11890:2019-08-01 <int-̈e> learn The password of the month is surprising. \ 11843:2019-07-01 <sha
< 1575161666 661432 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? password
< 1575161667 816580 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :The password of the month is mostly irrelevant.
< 1575161677 582561 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :December is fair game now.
< 1575161686 687141 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@time
< 1575161689 382870 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for shachaf is Sat Nov 30 16:54:46 2019
< 1575161692 225245 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :More like unfair game!
< 1575161708 727730 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did we agree on UTC?
< 1575161712 347182 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think we did.
< 1575161716 534098 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :We never agree on anything.
< 1575161726 634494 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did :P
< 1575161893 62777 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( `learn The password of the month will be revealed on December 25th. )
< 1575161895 457507 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-141.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` TZ=Pacific/Auckland datei # New Zealand is even more ahead 
< 1575161896 220564 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :2019-12-01 13:58:15.829 +1300 NZDT December 1 Sunday 2019-W48-7
< 1575161916 765934 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-141.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: on 2019-12-19, in the cinemas for Star Wars
< 1575161956 104277 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was thinking advent calendar.
< 1575162130 739156 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :But maybe something simpler is in order.
< 1575162260 23618 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn The password of the month is naughty.
< 1575162262 976254 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :Relearned 'password': The password of the month is naughty.
> 1575162524 225014 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Forth14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67547&oldid=65396 5* 03IFcoltransG 5* (+13) 10Added {{serious}} template
> 1575162729 313870 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Perl14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67548&oldid=39786 5* 03IFcoltransG 5* (+13) 10Added {{Serious}} template
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< 1575163903 809576 :Frater_EST!~adrianbib@107-216-155-19.lightspeed.tulsok.sbcglobal.net PART :#esoteric
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< 1575165253 583355 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-7.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fire Goats Mountain {-} Legendary Land - Mountain ;; ~ enters the battlefield tapped. ;; When ~ enters the battlefield, create a 0/1 white and red Goat creature token. ;; {1}, {T}: Target creature gains "{R}: Destroy all equipment attached to this creature. This creature deals 1 damage to each creature blocking or blocked by this creature." until end of turn.
< 1575165414 678670 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-7.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Black Crystal Star {4} Artifact ;; As ~ enters the battlefield, create a 1/1 Golem artifact creature token. ;; {2}, {T}: That token becomes a copy of target creature until that creature's copiable values change, or ~ or that creature leaves the battlefield, or the token becomes a copy of something else due to ~.
< 1575165616 705435 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-7.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Threshold of Death {1BB} Artifact Enchantment ;; As an additional cost to cast ~, sacrifice four creatures. ;; Whenever a nonartifact permanent that you do not control attacks you or deals damage to you, destroy that permanent. ;; At the beginning of your upkeep, pay 1 life or sacrifice ~.
< 1575165624 441738 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-7.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like this?
< 1575165899 489659 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric
< 1575166112 541075 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds
< 1575166163 171320 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell kspalaiologos by your wrethed polish name i'm not referring to your nick here but to the one on CGCC, which i assumed _was_ your real name
< 1575166163 485752 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1575166285 307696 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell kspalaiologos which you're also saying on the wiki
< 1575166285 535883 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1575166374 476843 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell kspalaiologos your nick here is mostly greek, not polish, anyway
< 1575166374 679459 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1575166429 17413 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric
> 1575166506 121620 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03BrainDamage 5*  10New user account
< 1575166535 933454 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION memorizes
< 1575166573 132319 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :So should it be κσπαλαιολόγος then?
< 1575166637 902334 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-7.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like Magic: the Gathering cards?
< 1575166651 322983 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: that would be another invalid IRC character
< 1575166695 333976 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-7.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, since the names should be ASCII or ISO-646 only, I think.
< 1575166714 759774 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-7.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and also some other restrictions too, I think)
< 1575166979 964344 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds
< 1575167124 598080 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :<b_jonas> kspalaiologos: oerjan found a bug in your bot <-- i don't recall being involved with the := bug, and until now not a single message of mine has triggered it
< 1575167124 738212 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :<b_jonas> kspalaiologos: oerjan found a bug in your bot <-- i don't recall being involved with the :No such command. Try =help.
< 1575167372 881526 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: ξπαλαιολόγος hth
< 1575167586 73961 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`grwp banned
< 1575167587 991649 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​☾_:☾_ is moon_'s lawful twin. He's banned in the IRC RFC for being an invalid character. He sometimes eats papers. \ ørjan:Your pal Ørjan is oerjan's good twin. He's banned in the IRC RFC for being an invalid character. Sometimes he publishes papers without noticing it. \ xenon:Xenon is a noble gas element. It has been banned in most countries due to xenophobia.
< 1575167602 1841 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`2 grwp banned
< 1575167603 448422 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :2/1:
< 1575167703 87505 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn ξπαλαιολόγος is kspalaiologos's Ancient Greek twin. He was banned from the theater for making up invalid characters.
< 1575167707 855426 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'ξπαλαιολόγος': ξπαλαιολόγος is kspalaiologos's Ancient Greek twin. He was banned from the theater for making up invalid characters.
< 1575167932 377877 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric
< 1575167933 577075 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? 8ball
< 1575167934 818643 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :8ball? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1575167943 315933 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom 8.*ball
< 1575167944 220361 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's not wise.
< 1575167953 727773 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom 8
< 1575167954 558000 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​zzo38//zzo38 is not actually the next version of fungot, much as it may seem.
< 1575167999 720151 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cbt b
< 1575168000 530345 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: /hackenv/bin/b: No such file or directory
> 1575168109 354603 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Template:Serious14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67549&oldid=8403 5* 03IFcoltransG 5* (+10) 10Added a URL parameter to the template for redirecting url away from disambig pages
> 1575168240 495440 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Template:Serious14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67550&oldid=67549 5* 03IFcoltransG 5* (+0) 10Made parameter not replace "Wikipedia:" in link
> 1575168305 298530 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Forth14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67551&oldid=67547 5* 03IFcoltransG 5* (+33) 10Add URL parameter to {{Serious}} template, so it doesn't go to disambiguation page
< 1575168794 256606 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`dowg morphism
< 1575168797 646827 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :10877:2017-05-10 <shachäf> slwd morphism//s.1.shape 1. \ 9325:2016-10-18 <tsweẗt> slwd morphism//s/functors on/diagrams of/ \ 5251:2015-02-03 <oerjän> learn A morphism is just a natural transformation between two functors on 1. \ 5138:2014-11-16 <shachäf> revert 5134 \ 5135:2014-11-16 <ellioẗt> find wisdom -type f -print0 | xargs -0 grep -El \'(is|are) just\' | xargs rm \ 1294:2013-01-07 <oerjän> echo "Morphisms are just elements o
< 1575168815 141131 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: i think it already had the word "just" hth
< 1575168824 848138 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or wait
< 1575168847 545874 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION somehow misinterpreted the first "just" as "just now"
< 1575168864 731651 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`doat morphism
< 1575168866 985134 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1575168876 307501 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`dowt morphism
< 1575168878 189593 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :1256:2013-01-04 <GreyKnigḧt> echo "A morphism is just an abstraction derived from structure-preserving mappings between two mathematical structures." > wisdom/morphism \ 1257:2013-01-04 <GreyKnigḧt> echo "A morphism is just an abstraction derived from structure-preserving mappings between two categories." > wisdom/morphism \ 1259:2013-01-04 <GreyKnigḧt> echo "A morphism is a map between two objects in an abstract category." > wisdom/morp
< 1575168887 361774 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm you seem to be in the gap
< 1575168892 635956 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hwrl morphism
< 1575168893 504452 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://hack.esolangs.org/repo/log/tip/wisdom/morphism
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< 1575169144 772752 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently we've had the serious template for ages but it wasn't used for anything
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< 1575170410 940636 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :
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> 1575173221 114460 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Non-specific assignment14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67552&oldid=44558 5* 03IFcoltransG 5* (+23) 10Added concepts category
> 1575175206 468286 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Sillycon14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67553&oldid=40977 5* 03IFcoltransG 5* (+0) 10Fixed typo
> 1575175313 546927 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Sillycon14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67554&oldid=67553 5* 03IFcoltransG 5* (-1) 10More typos
> 1575176388 520840 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Grr14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67555&oldid=60476 5* 03IFcoltransG 5* (+61) 10Cleaned up grammar
> 1575176534 47004 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07CT14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=67556 5* 03IFcoltransG 5* (+31) 10Redirect to cyclic tag
> 1575176681 803443 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Classical CT14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=67557 5* 03IFcoltransG 5* (+180) 10Created page with "I'm assuming "CT" means Cyclic Tag, rather than, say, Con-Text. Linked to Cyclic Tag. ~~~~"
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> 1575176932 264335 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Prefix notation14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67559&oldid=22127 5* 03IFcoltransG 5* (+23) 10Add Concepts category
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> 1575177204 611505 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Esolang talk:Policy14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67562&oldid=47252 5* 03IFcoltransG 5* (+250) 10/* American vs British English */
> 1575177229 767511 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Esolang talk:Policy14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67563&oldid=67562 5* 03IFcoltransG 5* (+1) 10/* American vs British English */ Formatting
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> 1575179126 358009 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Vafix14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67564&oldid=66417 5* 03IFcoltransG 5* (+4) 10/* Vafix in comparision with a normal infix */ Remove "Edit:"
> 1575179296 596355 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Vafix14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67565&oldid=67564 5* 03IFcoltransG 5* (+19) 10/* Implementations */ Shebang in code example for disambiguation of language
> 1575179590 791963 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07IRP14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67566&oldid=58172 5* 03IFcoltransG 5* (+0) 10/* Accidental Implementation */ Typo
< 1575181129 749363 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :building an if/else statement without a conditional break is suddenly difficult.
< 1575181205 815882 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-7.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Building with what?
< 1575181343 609737 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :in Mode.
< 1575181352 547958 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :really should build a page for this thing.
< 1575181432 201466 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-7.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, make a document so that we can see what it is
< 1575181441 805735 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do have a document. just not posted anywhere live.
< 1575181877 441656 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-7.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you should post it
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> 1575196132 634086 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Anyfix14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67567&oldid=52194 5* 03A 5* (+60) 10
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> 1575196214 499501 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Anyfix14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67569&oldid=67567 5* 03A 5* (+138) 10Add those deleted links back
> 1575196392 158488 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Prefix notation14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67570&oldid=67559 5* 03A 5* (+108) 10
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> 1575196636 281316 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Surround notation14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67573&oldid=67572 5* 03A 5* (+176) 10The person named "Que Asd" is "OVER 9000!!!" years old? That's totally nonsense.
> 1575196739 209578 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Surround notation14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67574&oldid=67573 5* 03A 5* (+103) 10/* Examples */
> 1575196814 344113 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Surround notation14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67575&oldid=67574 5* 03A 5* (+127) 10/* Examples */
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> 1575196985 309918 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Prefix notation14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67576&oldid=67570 5* 03A 5* (-3) 10A single prepended space interferes with code selection.
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< 1575199011 539511 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.7.195.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think bfbot intercepts any post with equals inside? 2 + 2 = 2
< 1575199029 843445 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.7.195.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, it’s now fixed
< 1575200155 401790 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-141.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :arseniiv: it intercepts any post with colon-equals inside
< 1575200235 756046 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.7.195.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: why?
< 1575200239 419889 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.7.195.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :=help :=
< 1575200239 587118 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :=help :No such command. Try =help.
< 1575200247 836657 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.7.195.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm
< 1575200525 591668 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-141.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: re Fire Goats Mountain => heck no, that's likely to be overpowered in some formats. 
< 1575200681 629878 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-141.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Threshold of Death seems a bit in danger of being overpowered too. I don't recommend these.
< 1575204618 166054 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :By the power of the Black Lotus...
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> 1575207474 209767 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07MindReadingFuck14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=67577 5* 03Dart 5* (+1384) 10Created page with "[[MindReadingFuck]] is a joke esoteric language created by [[User:Dart]] in 2019. It is loosely a [[brainfuck]] derivative.  ==Description== MindReadingFuck is very easy to pr..."
> 1575207583 152440 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Joke language list14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67578&oldid=67109 5* 03Dart 5* (+22) 10/* Brainfuck derivatives */ Added my language
< 1575207971 797483 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-141.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: this may be a good time to advertise our play-by-post Magic: the Gathering game, in which players submit three-card decks. http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?601011 
< 1575208133 696464 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember that link. I'm not actively interested in M:tG though.
< 1575208223 301898 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-141.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, I advertised it once already
< 1575209147 337411 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.7.195.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am too. We are no fun
< 1575209163 401442 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.7.195.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :not too much interested, I mean
> 1575209316 34762 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User talk:A14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67579&oldid=66483 5* 03A 5* (-313) 10Try to make a compression algorithm by analyzing the number of every character in a large file
< 1575209341 102910 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-141.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :arseniiv: or you are playing under different names that I don't recognize
> 1575209510 327763 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User talk:A14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67580&oldid=67579 5* 03A 5* (+211) 10/* Sandbox */
< 1575209511 418041 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.7.195.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: mmmaybe but why would I, I’m not so many-layered
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< 1575209563 571580 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-141.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :arseniiv: I don't mean just you specifically, but the "We" that you mentioned
< 1575209573 62061 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-141.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :plus, you might already have an account on that forum and it'd be hard to rename it
< 1575209588 126967 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.7.195.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: ah
< 1575209601 502746 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-141.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm "jonas" in several corners of the internet because it's better to keep a nick that is already known there
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< 1575211103 735391 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-141.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, how many continents are there on Earth, and how many oceans are there on Earth?
< 1575211103 812955 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: the intermediate language for my game
< 1575211111 952237 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-141.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well said
< 1575211121 968038 :tromp_!~tromp@2a02:a210:1585:3200:61ee:add:64b9:f75e JOIN :#esoteric
< 1575211288 920588 :LKoen!~LKoen@lstlambert-657-1-122-23.w92-154.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :"how many continents are there?" was a very frustrating question when I was in middle school
< 1575211299 673767 :LKoen!~LKoen@lstlambert-657-1-122-23.w92-154.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't had two geography teachers who agreed on the number
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< 1575211313 62699 :LKoen!~LKoen@lstlambert-657-1-122-23.w92-154.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :and of course they made us learn by heart paragraphs that stated that number and other things
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< 1575211394 592840 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-141.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was told that there are five. But that's because we only had one geography teacher.
< 1575211401 546066 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-141.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :And three oceans.
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< 1575211539 480948 :LKoen!~LKoen@lstlambert-657-1-122-23.w92-154.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oceania / Africa / America / Eurasia / Antarctica?
< 1575211551 483149 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :LKoen: how many different answers are there? 3, splitting Eurasia up into Europe, Asia, and optionally India?
< 1575211578 394119 :LKoen!~LKoen@lstlambert-657-1-122-23.w92-154.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, counting Antarctica or not, separating Europe and Asia or not, separating North and South America or not
< 1575211588 663392 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-141.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: America can be one or two continents, and the Antarctics may or may not count as a continent
< 1575211608 387541 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. I wasn't sure about America.
< 1575211614 581899 :LKoen!~LKoen@lstlambert-657-1-122-23.w92-154.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course some of the combinations result in the same number, but agreeing on the number while disagreeing on the actual continents is not very helpful
< 1575211620 73077 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I sucked at goegraphy anyway.
< 1575211627 371218 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :all i know is atlas is usually holding a globe up, and atlases are named after him, and he has his own atlantic ocean, but apparently sometimes he shrugs.   i suppose one such shrug fractured pangea
< 1575211629 920707 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I always counted Antarctica though.
< 1575211635 880230 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-141.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yeah, that reminds me
< 1575211657 649454 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I learned very late that India's on its own plate.
< 1575211673 541262 :LKoen!~LKoen@lstlambert-657-1-122-23.w92-154.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah I never had a teacher tell us to count India as its own continent
< 1575211689 732474 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, apparently sometimes atlas is really a sequence of turtles
< 1575211700 824754 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so he has shapeshifting abilities
< 1575211718 848242 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, we all know it's turtles all the way down.
< 1575211723 788984 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or the turtles do. hard to say.
< 1575211740 723467 :LKoen!~LKoen@lstlambert-657-1-122-23.w92-154.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :also they were never very clear about the definition of a continent? I don't think it was related to plates, except for Oceania
< 1575211842 607544 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-141.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.perlmonks.com/?node_id=116759 parodies a certain type of question that perlmonks received at that time (this was before I was on that site), and it has the phrase "It need to do something with states and an alphabet, but I'm not good with geography so really need help!" which always makes me laugh
< 1575211998 838661 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the problem with atlas and a globe is im not sure how the "here be dragons" and other creatures would feel about being wiped out;  i theorize at some point atlas beat all the dragons so thats why he gets to hold the globe
< 1575212024 3729 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :LKoen: As I recall it, the split of Eurasia was motivated by a historic collision of continental plates in school.
< 1575212062 509200 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :But meh, in retrospect it's completely arbitrary.
< 1575212090 704623 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-141.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: no way. Europe and Asia are separated by cultural history, not by any natural geographic stuff
< 1575212115 336419 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are the Ural mountains.
< 1575212165 21159 :LKoen!~LKoen@lstlambert-657-1-122-23.w92-154.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: everyone knows Europe and Asia are distinct continents because they are separated by the biggest mountains in the world, the Ural
< 1575212169 205893 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which I guess are less of an obstacle than the huge bodies of water commonly called oceans.
< 1575212192 357263 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-141.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: yes, we have to draw a boundary somewhere, and since it's hard to cross mountains or seas, Ural and Caucasus are good places to draw a boundary at
< 1575213181 70444 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-141.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ural
< 1575213183 701612 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :ural? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1575213203 309216 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-141.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... Ural is the biggest mountain of the world, according to the BBC.
< 1575213212 497312 :LKoen!~LKoen@lstlambert-657-1-122-23.w92-154.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :what
< 1575213217 310759 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-141.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no wait
< 1575213220 107964 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-141.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? a
< 1575213221 356486 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :A is one of seven villages in Norway. The BBC invented them by not understanding things on top of letters.
< 1575213236 61519 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-141.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ural is the biggest mountain of the world. The BBC invented them.
< 1575213244 16146 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-141.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? bbc
< 1575213248 517035 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :The BBC is the BreadBox Corporation. Its inventions include, without limitation, Muppets, tiny elfs, villages in Norway, and inventors of all things. Taneb invented it.
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< 1575213809 80393 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-141.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` wc -c
< 1575213809 928266 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :0
< 1575213848 737674 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-141.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, the input is indeed /dev/null now
< 1575213891 627198 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-141.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ci
< 1575213892 827041 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :The CIs are a secret society led by David Morgan-Mar, bent on conquering the world from Sydney with webcomics. They invented Taneb.
< 1575213950 721459 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`readlink /proc/self/fd/0
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< 1575213976 870079 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(harmless, but curious)
< 1575214228 216916 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-141.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ci
< 1575214229 426988 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :The CIs are a secret society led by David Morgan-Mar, bent on conquering the world from Sydney with webcomics. They invented Taneb. Shamus Young invented them.
< 1575214434 428374 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :CI is a key operation in functional analysis.
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< 1575218852 568550 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.7.195.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are too many metallic elements, don’t you think?
< 1575218898 56606 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.7.195.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :though at least many of them do have interesting chemistry despite that
< 1575219529 484154 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-141.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :arseniiv: no, you only think there are too many of them because many of them are too expensive for you to be familiar with
< 1575219588 276252 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.7.195.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: many of nonmetals aren’t available to me too, but nonetheless they are minority
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< 1575219933 739854 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-141.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :arseniiv: since many of those metalic elements are useful for alchemy or allomancy or other forms of magic, the Dark Lord collected them and hogged them, and they're now buried underground in dungeons mostly unaccessible to us.
< 1575220060 172896 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-141.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :rhenium turned out to be the most magical, and the One Ring was forged from it.
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< 1575220140 281221 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.7.195.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: hm why not bismuth?
< 1575220156 921006 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.7.195.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :it should be the one, as it’s right at the border
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< 1575220241 760810 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.7.195.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :and also it has nice oxidative colours
< 1575220250 488999 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-141.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :arseniiv: the ring is made of a metal that is harder to forge than mithril, for Gandalf says that even the dwarven forges that work with mithril couldn't melt it. only the demonic fire of Mount Doom could melt it, and even that probably only when the Dark Lord's servants fueled it.
< 1575220254 36390 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 NICK :Lord_of_Life
< 1575220267 500041 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-141.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bismuth isn't harder to forget than mithril.
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< 1575220416 439534 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.7.195.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :<b_jonas> Bismuth isn't harder to forget than mithril. => this is a strong argument against it, unfortunately
< 1575220447 783430 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.7.195.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :though we need to be sure rhenium isn’t filtered out too!
< 1575220754 28083 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-141.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :arseniiv: and there's proof other than Gandalf's words. all the other rings of power have a gemstone. the One Ring is unadorned, because you can't embed a gem if you have to forge the ring at such a high temperature that gemstones would burn at, and it would be ugly to add a different metal on it as the gemstone frame.
< 1575222119 979273 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b982ad.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1575222236 680951 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-141.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what kind of mustard sauce do you prefer, fungot?
< 1575222236 871274 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: more generally, that fnord. fnord sin� fnord fnord fnord.
> 1575222286 165030 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03NieDzejkob 5*  10New user account
< 1575222337 167977 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-7.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe the upkeep cost for Threshold of Death can be changed to cumulative upkeep
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> 1575222517 815046 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67582&oldid=67534 5* 03NieDzejkob 5* (+158) 10
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< 1575222766 12176 :kritixilithos!~kritixili@gateway/tor-sasl/kritixilithos PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is fungot obsessed with fnords
< 1575222766 147404 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :kritixilithos: it rains here. :) i don't understand it. but the quality of my tools. you have to
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< 1575223647 153597 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some of the models have been trained using a form of smoothing where rare words are assigned to a special <UNK> token; when fungot's generating data from the model, it has to put something there, and it uses "fnord" for that.
< 1575223647 282716 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: when do you determine which permutation you want to do
> 1575223744 538988 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Initialization14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=67583 5* 03NieDzejkob 5* (+368) 10IT'S ALIVE!
> 1575223789 920023 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Initialization14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67584&oldid=67583 5* 03NieDzejkob 5* (-1) 10Improper keyboarding results in links of uncomforable color
> 1575224003 240682 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Joke language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67585&oldid=67578 5* 03NieDzejkob 5* (+55) 10
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> 1575225297 57870 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Initialization14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67586&oldid=67584 5* 03NieDzejkob 5* (+273) 10
> 1575226945 981329 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Initialization14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67587&oldid=67586 5* 03NieDzejkob 5* (-35) 10Simplify the interpreter
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< 1575229327 774304 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`5 w
< 1575229334 14557 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :1/2:furryscript//FurryScript is the hairiest of all esoteric languages. \ wo//wo is the rarely seen word which "won't" is the opposite of. \ welcome.es//¡Bienvenido al centro internacional para el diseño y despliegue de lenguajes de programación esotéricos! Por desgracia, la mayoría de nosotros no hablamos español. Para obtener más información, echa un vistazo a nuestro wiki: <https://esolangs.org/>. (Para el otro tipo de esoteri
< 1575229338 251522 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`n
< 1575229339 87605 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :2/2:smo, prueba #esoteric en EFnet o DALnet.) \ xml//XML stands for "X-treme Mega Language (of Awesomeness)" \ categorical product//categorical product is like when you have two category elements A and B then their product is element C iff there are two morphisms p:C->A and q:C->B such that for every element X and morphisms u:X->A and v:X->B there is a unique morphism w:X->C such that u=wp and v=wq.
< 1575229413 107471 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`forget categorical product
< 1575229415 42013 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :Forget what?
< 1575229420 552791 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEso: categorical product
< 1575230647 706060 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-141.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`5 wisdom fungot
< 1575230647 803808 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: so the minimal point is ( fnord 5), etc
< 1575230651 891182 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :1/1:fungot//fungot is our beloved channel mascot and voice of reason. \ fungot//fungot is our beloved channel mascot and voice of reason. \ fungot//fungot is our beloved channel mascot and voice of reason. \ fungot//fungot is our beloved channel mascot and voice of reason. \ fungot//fungot is our beloved channel mascot and voice of reason.
< 1575230653 560980 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-141.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`5 quote fungot
< 1575230653 664371 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: how old are you? :) ( aren't i lazy :p) or fnord k 1
< 1575230656 638942 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :1/166:10) <fungot> GregorR-L: i bet only you can prevent forest fires. basically, you know. \ 13) <fizzie after embedding some of his department research into fungot> Finally I have found some actually useful purpose for it. \ 14) <fungot> oerjan: are you a man, if there weren't evil in this kingdom to you! you shall find bekkler! executing program. please let me go... put me out! he's really a tricycle! pass him! \ 56) <fungot> i am sad ( of
< 1575230832 206429 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-141.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`
< 1575230832 892649 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​? Permission denied
< 1575230837 542215 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-141.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`/
< 1575230838 266270 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/? Permission denied
< 1575230855 386659 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-141.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`/dev/stdin
< 1575230856 46976 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/dev/stdin? Permission denied
< 1575230869 553342 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-141.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`/nonexistantfile
< 1575230870 233992 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/nonexistantfile? No such file or directory
< 1575230950 297969 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-141.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`5 quote fungot | perl -e'@s=<>;print $s[rand@s]'
< 1575230950 465168 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: yay for hello bf cookie world where more people wanted to be doing this wall drilling thing for an idiot like me is to say, right?
< 1575230952 459438 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :1/2:538) <fungot> sadhu: it's been said that boole is the crowning jewel perched precariously upon the perfect peak of programmer prowess, casting its limitless limpid light over the loathesome lands of those who scuff and wallow in the dreary dust of digital depravity and unbounded wilful ignorance of the testament of our lord jesus christ into your life. \ 632) <fungot> fizzie: is a 98% reduction in the waterpark intensity, right, so i'd ima
< 1575230989 732953 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-141.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`n
< 1575230990 605330 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :2/2:gine! \ 768) <fungot> olsner: over the undertow! under the overpass! around the future and not just fnord for example. it's just the syntax \ 689) <fizzie> fungot: Feeling scrambled after all that?  <fungot> fizzie: but it's much like new zealand, in my stone-age country, we still like you even if you're only using the new fnord \ 930) <esomimic> fungot: begrudging pat
< 1575231011 456346 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-141.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`n
< 1575231014 303026 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :1/2:538) <fungot> sadhu: it's been said that boole is the crowning jewel perched precariously upon the perfect peak of programmer prowess, casting its limitless limpid light over the loathesome lands of those who scuff and wallow in the dreary dust of digital depravity and unbounded wilful ignorance of the testament of our lord jesus christ into your life. \ 632) <fungot> fizzie: is a 98% reduction in the waterpark intensity, right, so i'd ima
< 1575231041 603611 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-141.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's nonexistent, with an e, darn it!
< 1575231052 914907 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-141.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Ance
< 1575231054 119182 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :Spelling of -ance/-ence words: advance, science, conference, experience, finance, insurance, licence, performance, reference, assistance, balance, defence, difference, distance, evidence, acceptance, appliance, audience, compliance, importance, influence, instance, intelligence, maintenance, preference, presence, sentence, sequence, substance, violence, absence, accordance, alliance, appearance, assurance, attendance, circumstance, clearance, 
< 1575231080 755076 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-141.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not there, but still
< 1575231252 710421 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` egrep '^[adehijlnorst]{3}$' /usr/share/dict/words
< 1575231254 389553 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :add \ ado \ ads \ aha \ aid \ ail \ air \ ale \ all \ and \ ani \ ant \ are \ art \ ash \ ass \ ate \ dad \ den \ did \ die \ din \ dis \ doe \ don \ dos \ dot \ ear \ eat \ eel \ ell \ end \ eon \ era \ ere \ err \ eta \ had \ hah \ has \ hat \ hen \ her \ hes \ hid \ hie \ his \ hit \ hod \ hoe \ hos \ hot \ ids \ ill \ inn \ ins \ ion \ ire \ its \ jar \ jet \ jot \ lad \ lea \ led \ lee \ lei \ let \ lid \ lie \ lit \ lot \ net \ nil \ nit
< 1575231262 618572 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :these are the words my new alphanumeric mechanical padlock can make
< 1575231269 231148 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(counting 0 as O and 1 as I)
< 1575231299 484329 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder how they arrived at that set
< 1575231314 455512 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has the vowels except U and Y and W
< 1575231319 183891 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and do Y and W even count)
< 1575231465 870947 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it has the 5 most common vowels -- shdrl
< 1575231480 487777 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-141.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` perl -ne'print "$_ " for /(?<![\-.\x27A-Za-z])([adehijlnorst]{3})(?![\-.\x27A-Za-z])/g' /hackenv/share/dict/12dicts/Le*/2+2+3frq.txt
< 1575231481 636600 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :are the and did had has not his she her all her one see its too end let lot old ran set add air art die hit led lie lit sit sat son dad eat ate hid hot oil red ten aah aid ear nod nor sad sea sir tea tie era hah hat ill jet net odd ooh rid til and ash ass dot inn jar lid rat rod shh sin toe ton aha ant den don lad rot tad tan tee tin ail ale hen ion nah oat ore sis sod tar din eel err she her his her hoe jot nil oar tit tot ado eon ere ire loo
< 1575231487 396666 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the hecking heck
< 1575231500 993379 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-141.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: ^ use a more respectible dictionary, not /usr/share/dict
< 1575231502 612789 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is quite a regex
< 1575231568 299609 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :are perl regexes turing complete
< 1575231570 350363 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty sure they are
< 1575231577 211562 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-141.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the "j" in that list is weird
< 1575231595 5250 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-141.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` perl -ne'print "$_ " for /(?<![\-.\x27A-Za-z])([adehilmnorst]{3})(?![\-.\x27A-Za-z])/g' /hackenv/share/dict/12dicts/Le*/2+2+3frq.txt
< 1575231595 919515 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :are the and did had has him not his she her all her one see its man men too end let lot old ran set add air arm art die hit led lie lit met mom mam sit sat son dad eat ate hid hot oil red ten aah aid aim ear hmm mad nod nor sad sea sir tea tie mhm era hah hat ill net odd ooh rid til and ash ass dam dim dot inn lid ram rat rod shh sin toe ton aha ant den don ham lad mat mid rim rot tad tan tee tin ail ale hem hen ion mar nah oat ore sis sod tar
< 1575231596 41448 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.7.195.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: is that that your regex you mentioned a month or two ago?
< 1575231607 55735 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-141.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :arseniiv: I don't think so
< 1575231626 401596 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.7.195.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, it’s a query with a regex
< 1575231635 857485 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.7.195.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :didn’t read it through
< 1575231645 6535 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-141.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just your regex with some stuff around it to make sure it's a complete lowercase word
< 1575231656 631064 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-141.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :although wait
< 1575231679 367932 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :> sort "etaoinshrdlu"
< 1575231681 827389 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : "adehilnorstu"
< 1575231705 500015 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-141.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't this one of those padlocks where you press a set of buttons, so words with double letters shouldn't count, and different permutations of letters should count only once?
< 1575231709 347355 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-141.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: ^
< 1575231740 762036 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no
< 1575231741 496522 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.7.195.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ade Hil[l], Norstu
< 1575231751 501688 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has a single spinning dial
< 1575231758 963425 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like a standard 'school locker padlock'
< 1575231762 323770 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(at least in America)
< 1575231775 974125 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only difference is that it's labeled with digits and some letters rather than consecutive integers up to 40 or whatever
< 1575231780 432993 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well and it also has detents for each
< 1575231784 892930 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :standard padlocks spin smoothly
< 1575231797 449960 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have one of those too but I forgot the combo and my attempt to crack it using some online guide failed
< 1575231814 538258 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can take it to a shop and get the combo from a serial number but that sounded like effort when I could get a new one for $10 in 2 minutes
< 1575231819 970120 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then i didn't need it anyway, oops
< 1575231984 167745 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-141.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` perl -ne'for (/(?<![\-.\x27A-Za-z])([adehijlnorst]{3,})(?![\-.\x27A-Za-z])/g) { %k=(); $k{$_}++ for sort split//,$_; @k=keys%k; if (3 == @k && !$k{join"",@k}++) { print "$_ " } }' /hackenv/share/dict/12dicts/Le*/2+2+3frq.txt
< 1575231985 75131 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :are the and that had has hath not his she her her one seen here its need needed tell end let lot old ran set added air area art die door else hit led less lie lit sell sense sit sat son soon test data dead eat ate hell hid hot loss oil red roll ten tree aid ear hall hill nine nod none nor onto rare root sad sea sir tall tea tie tool assess ease era error hat jet net onion rear rid seed seeded till til tooth teeth toss and ash deer doll dot hee
< 1575232008 445698 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-141.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: ah, so you don't depress 3 out of 12 buttons with the order irrelevant. sorry
< 1575232067 631281 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-141.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, you want to find out the code, which need not even be a word?
< 1575232083 397733 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that one is a standard numeric lock
< 1575232101 109746 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the code is 3 integers between 0 and 39 inclusive, order dependent
< 1575232111 174143 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :though I'm not sure you can use the same number twice in a row
< 1575232115 691584 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-141.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that command isn't right, it doesn't filter duplicates
< 1575232117 145083 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-141.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me fix it
< 1575232136 752987 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :all american kids use this in high school
< 1575232139 911126 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or did back in my day
< 1575232166 588170 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Yeah, I've seen those on TV, but never in real life.
< 1575232170 936294 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-141.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` perl -ne'for (/(?<![\-.\x27A-Za-z])([adehijlnorst]{3,})(?![\-.\x27A-Za-z])/g) { %k=(); $k{$_}++ for split//,$_; @k=sort keys%k; if (3 == @k && !$r{join"",@k}++) { print "$_ " } }' /hackenv/share/dict/12dicts/Le*/2+2+3frq.txt
< 1575232171 783168 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :are the and that had has not his she her one seen its need tell lot old ran set added air art die door else hit led lie lit sat son data eat hell hid hot loss oil red roll ten tree aid hall hill nine nod nor root sad sea sir tall tie error jet onion rid seed toss dot horror jar lid odds roar sin toe ant hood lad radar reel tattoo tin ail alas ale eerie heed hen nah anal din hoe jot nil sill ado jeer loon ode seer shoo dis nth anon jell jinn hi
< 1575232176 756710 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-141.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :this. no more "need needed"
< 1575232188 210959 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :We just had physical Abloy keys for any place there's lockers.
< 1575232189 665802 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :now they probably have some unnecessarily smart bluetooth lock with a backdoor so the school admin can break in to see if you're hiding ~dangerous items~
< 1575232233 92339 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the venue I bought my combo lock for turned out to have RFID locks instead
< 1575232240 539460 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so they give you a wristband with a chip in it, which unlocks the locker
< 1575232265 796969 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in college we had an interesting style of door locks
< 1575232267 642530 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :forgot the brand
< 1575232272 209553 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Does the starting number matter for those locks? That is, is 0-20-10 a different code from 1-21-11? 
< 1575232277 899821 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-141.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`python3 -cimport secrets; print("".join([secrets.choice("adehijlnorst") for k in range(3)]))
< 1575232278 794776 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :oat
< 1575232283 227714 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-141.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ there's your word
< 1575232306 883534 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has 5 buttons, and each code unit is a cluster of one or more buttons (pressed simultaneously), but you can only use each button once in the whole code
< 1575232315 470486 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so e.g. 15-2-3 is different from 1-5-23
< 1575232322 767911 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-7.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you do not want them to break in to your stuff then install a safe inside of the locker and put all of the stuff in there.
< 1575232359 155796 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :people practiced "power punching" which was the technique of trying all combos in some maximum-likelihood order
< 1575232457 340471 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-7.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I have read about those locks with 5 buttons, from a 2600 article I think. They mention how it isn't so secure as a key, you can easily try them, and there are also "half step" codes.
< 1575232602 765856 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you practiced you could do it in like 15 minutes
< 1575232606 22621 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :all the combos i mean
< 1575232614 68645 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and your expected time would be half that, even without the likelihood ordering
< 1575232630 437348 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :one of the houses there was known for heavy drinking and they set their door code to "2" so that it could be remembered in a state of inebriation
< 1575232661 962719 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was glad to be in a house (actually, two) that had a more varied culture including more interesting intoxicants as well as other fun stuff
< 1575232973 270416 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :first year housemates were really into lockpicking, making master keys, tunnel exploration and that kind of fun stuff
< 1575232991 806806 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: the combo locks also have an override key you can use
< 1575232996 838506 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I made one of those
< 1575233001 786264 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so technically i could break into anyone's room
< 1575233007 832398 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :we had a game called Alley Assassins
< 1575233119 506920 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :people signed up as targets and others would try to get them with a 'bomb', which is any device that makes a noise or flashing light etc. in direct response to the target's actions (no remote-controlled bombs)
< 1575233140 244426 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got someone by planting a cellphone in their room and then setting up a trigger on my computer which would text the phone when they logged onto AIM
< 1575233168 323415 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the judges decided this was a bit ambiguous under the rules but decided I deserved the kill anyway on style points
< 1575233247 688169 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was remote-controlled but in a way that didn't require any action by anyone besides the target
< 1575233280 153972 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in those days you could text a phone by emailing a numeric address @ the phone company's domain
< 1575233283 297602 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know if that's still true
< 1575233418 766063 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :still true!
< 1575233430 31880 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah
< 1575233442 845620 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use twilio API for that
< 1575233456 97142 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :everybody seems to use that.
< 1575233476 535522 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's pretty easy
< 1575233478 223225 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :it makes sense because there's no reasonable way to decide which number belongs to which carrier, I think.
< 1575233482 478890 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can do it from a shell script with curl
< 1575233483 222447 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah
< 1575233484 724471 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :..I _think_
< 1575233490 777433 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've ported my number between at least 3 carriers
< 1575233497 277075 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a number -> carrier mapping somewhere?
< 1575233499 413998 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I bet phone companies can do it, because they need to know who to bill
< 1575233504 946165 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I don't think random people can do it
< 1575233644 930744 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.carrierlookup.com/
< 1575237390 261571 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used the trial thing of https://www.datasoap.co.uk/data-quality-services/hlr-lookup once to look up the operator a number was on.
< 1575237414 501147 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a really flaky SMS delivery situation between our UK operator (Three) and some (but not all) Finnish operators.
< 1575237434 768070 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also between my Finnish bank and Three, and nobody's taking any responsibility of it.
< 1575237489 639885 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 2.6
< 1575237541 523254 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(For "security" reasons the bank's getting ever more strict on mandating SMS-based verification on top of the existing one-time passcode lists.)
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< 1575237758 186403 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :got some pills today
< 1575237760 995736 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :girl pills
< 1575237763 106148 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 1097
< 1575237763 958421 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :1097) <kmc> BBC: Exercise 'can be as good as pills'  <kmc> oh, they mean for your health
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> 1575245398 628069 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Surround notation14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67588&oldid=67575 5* 03IFcoltransG 5* (+372) 10/* Uses of surround notation */  Replaced placeholder
> 1575245705 962516 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07LISP14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=67589 5* 03IFcoltransG 5* (+18) 10Redirects to Lisp (which doesn't exist yet)
> 1575245964 732568 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Prefix notation14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67590&oldid=67576 5* 03IFcoltransG 5* (+112) 10/* Examples */ Mentions that last line is M-exprs
> 1575246116 172491 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Anyfix notation14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67591&oldid=67568 5* 03IFcoltransG 5* (+51) 10Links to other notations
> 1575246325 803557 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Infix notation14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67592&oldid=22125 5* 03IFcoltransG 5* (+23) 10Added Concepts category
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< 1575250246 611182 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, I wonder if it would be in the spirit of HackEso to implement networking support using UML's "daemon" mode (writes Ethernet packets to a Unix domain datagram socket, intended to be used with uml_switch to connect several UMLs together), except connect it to a custom process that'd fake the basics (ARP, DNS) and then act as a transparent HTTP proxy for whitelisted requests + with some resource limits.
> 1575250249 74532 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Nary14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67593&oldid=44905 5* 03IFcoltransG 5* (+0) 10/* Syntax */ Typo
< 1575250263 410183 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thing is, it'd need a userland IP and TCP implementations for that. The much easier way would be just use the "tuntap" mode and let the kernel handle the IP and TCP, but then it needs special privileges to set up. One of the cool bits about umlbox is that it doesn't need any of that.
< 1575250290 465447 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Of course the existing umlbox-mudem approach is always a possiblity; that provides TCP port forwarding muxed over a fake serial line. But then all apps need to connect to localhost:N; with the other approaches the thing can be entirely transparent, which is cool.)
> 1575250635 289358 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Arity14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=67594 5* 03IFcoltransG 5* (+3811) 10Created page with "'''Arity''' refers to the number of parameters that can be passed to a function, procedure or other operation. The most common arities are 0, 1, 2 and a variable arity. == Exa..."
> 1575250669 877002 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Arity14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67595&oldid=67594 5* 03IFcoltransG 5* (+2) 10/* = In esolangs */ Forgot a formatting `=` sign
< 1575250976 763951 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-7.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know if you might want to also whitelist some non-HTTP stuff too
< 1575251106 484775 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-7.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And even for HTTP(S), decide which white lists to include
< 1575251265 624078 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-141.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: you don't have to fake a normal TCP/IP implementation. You can just have custom commands that ask the demon outside to do whatever restricted request you want, whcih could be HTTP requests or anything else, even more complicated combinations.
< 1575251299 650654 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-141.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, you want a transparent proxy? Yes, that could be harder.
< 1575251324 846701 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-141.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whether it's in spirit or not, I don't know.
> 1575251462 985759 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Church-Turing thesis14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67596&oldid=46006 5* 03IFcoltransG 5* (+294) 10Expanded by a sentence, and replaced last paragraph with more rigorous one
< 1575251464 383579 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a matter of style, really. I'd prefer if the "business logic" stayed inside the HackEso (and was editable by everyone), and the thing outside was pretty dumb, except for the practical requirement of needing enough smarts to restrict what can be done.
> 1575251515 948787 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Church-Turing thesis14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67597&oldid=23584 5* 03IFcoltransG 5* (+136) 10
> 1575252337 87316 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Imperial14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67598&oldid=67542 5* 03IFcoltransG 5* (+9) 10+ {{stub}}
> 1575252443 4247 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Imperial14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=67599 5* 03IFcoltransG 5* (+381) 10Created page with "I'm going to be honest, I don't know when I'll get around to finishing this. If you're here because you wanted to check if the name Imperial was taken, and this is 2021 or som..."
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> 1575252862 715667 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07ASCII art/mandelbrot14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67600&oldid=65108 5* 03IFcoltransG 5* (-22) 10Doesn't really belong in Category:Concepts. Excised from it.
> 1575253041 698353 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Swissen Machine14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67601&oldid=65011 5* 03IFcoltransG 5* (-1) 10/* Language Implementation */ Typo
< 1575253367 673256 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell arseniiv <arseniiv> b_jonas: why? <-- probably because it wants to match on = at the beginning of an irc message text, and := is what that looks like in the irc line, it just fails to adapt for when there is := elsewhere
< 1575253367 815571 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell arseniiv <arseniiv> b_jonas: why? <-- probably because it wants to match on = at the beginning of an irc message text, and := is what that looks like in the irc line, it just fails to adapt for when there is :No such command. Try =help.
< 1575253367 904891 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1575253386 28792 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :still not fixed, i see :P
< 1575253452 1129 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell arseniiv *irc protocol line
< 1575253452 231777 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1575253696 541257 :tromp!~tromp@2a02:a210:1585:3200:edac:78d3:b852:3dca JOIN :#esoteric
< 1575253753 587752 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the way ufu is acting overconfident, he better hope the schlock mercenary universe isn't big on cosmic irony. (it might not, given petey seems to get away with such stuff most of the time.)
< 1575253871 785357 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :then again, there's that other oafan who keeps being wrong
< 1575253977 564017 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :testing ho := hum hi
< 1575253977 696825 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :testing ho :No such command. Try =help.
< 1575253979 538025 :tromp!~tromp@2a02:a210:1585:3200:edac:78d3:b852:3dca QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds
< 1575253990 345766 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric := hum hi
< 1575253990 468654 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :No such command. Try =help.
< 1575254019 56542 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :testing ho := hum hi := mwa ha
< 1575254019 229688 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :testing ho := hum hi :No such command. Try =help.
< 1575254046 2719 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some sort of greedy match comes to mind.
< 1575254048 409172 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's unclear to me why it prints the part in between
< 1575254069 30345 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait
< 1575254099 399015 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it's interpreting what's before as part of the channel name and therefore prints it
< 1575254141 300788 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well channel name and following " :"
< 1575254171 503941 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose it might be including the PRIVMSG part too
< 1575254307 970873 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bots should be open-sourced by default to avoid the guesswork. Although I guess that'd be spoilers.
< 1575254417 437411 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no NOTICE #esoteric :what about := this then
< 1575254427 703085 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm it doesn't react to notice
< 1575254436 899089 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not quite _that_ stupid :P
< 1575254477 727015 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :=echo x
< 1575254478 19559 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :x
< 1575254531 108763 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :=echo ACTION knows CTCP
< 1575254531 389943 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :.ACTION knows CTCP.
< 1575254539 806332 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aw.
< 1575254697 591075 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess we've got that +C mode anyway.
< 1575254766 693969 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION does := the obvious
< 1575254766 913454 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION does :No such command. Try =help.
< 1575254791 46059 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh that wasn't censored
< 1575254816 573056 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the extra part printed before : doesn't go through the dotting
< 1575254868 918017 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Out of curiosity, if I say :a!b@c PRIVMSG #esoteric := does it copy the whole thing or just the end thing?
< 1575254869 38912 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :No such command. Try =help.
< 1575254892 892032 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay
< 1575254894 245060 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about if I say :a!b@c PRIVMSG fizzie := instead.
< 1575254905 820163 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :whee
< 1575254906 714457 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(No reaction.)
< 1575254917 868370 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :aww
< 1575254966 68764 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about if I say :a!b@c PRIVMSG #esoteric-blah := then?
< 1575254972 844404 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(That worked.)
< 1575254984 740504 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn i was just about to try
< 1575254988 396562 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But just because the bot's already on that channel, and most channels are +n.
< 1575254993 537782 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh
< 1575255060 29474 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about :a!b@c PRIVMSG #gnjksdfgsdfg := which is a non-+n channel the bot isn't on?
< 1575255073 179429 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(That worked too.)
< 1575255079 370335 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fiendish
< 1575255089 52857 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it's not specifically the channels it's on, but it's specifically channels.
< 1575255157 731620 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe it's using something like (PRIVMSG #.*):=(.*) to match, and then some equivalent of $1:$(eval $2) to reply.
< 1575255157 879106 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :No such command. Try =help.
< 1575255178 706932 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh, I'm not sure what happened there though.
< 1575255254 951679 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :testing #ho hum:= maybe
< 1575255255 73431 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :No such command. Try =help.
< 1575255280 283057 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it gets deeper
< 1575255295 119196 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :testing #ho hum:= maybe := so
< 1575255313 259653 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that got no answer. maybe it sent something to #ho
< 1575255335 522249 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should test with #esoteric-blah hum:= maybe := so or some-such.
< 1575255342 289728 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Nothing on #esoteric-blah though.)
< 1575255366 534479 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh well, sleeptime.
< 1575255373 225362 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about #esoteric := like this
< 1575255373 376012 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about #esoteric :No such command. Try =help.
< 1575255391 19670 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok it needs the PRIVMSG
< 1575255397 923145 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something
< 1575255826 926592 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ 2
< 1575255827 520543 :j-bot!eldis4@firefly.nu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: 2
< 1575255887 312516 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ testing := echo hi
< 1575255887 712069 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric ::[ testing hi
< 1575255888 40082 :j-bot!eldis4@firefly.nu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: testing := echo hi
< 1575255888 193453 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric ::oerjan: testing hi
< 1575255938 847811 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh suddenly spouting extra :
< 1575255948 326489 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: testing := echo hi
< 1575255948 701527 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric ::oerjan: testing hi
< 1575255959 865628 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so much weird
< 1575256035 883306 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and oerjan: testing := echo hi
< 1575256036 201944 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric ::and oerjan: testing hi
< 1575256046 363739 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and oerjan testing := echo hi
< 1575256046 675893 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric ::and oerjan testing hi
< 1575256064 738054 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: testing :=echo hi
< 1575256065 25725 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric ::oerjan: testing hi
< 1575256078 297055 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :testing :=echo hi
< 1575256078 585594 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric ::testing hi
< 1575256091 698074 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :did it do that yesterday
< 1575256118 110956 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe kspalaiologos did some change that didn't fix it
< 1575257368 589136 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :=echo hi
< 1575257368 875723 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi
< 1575257396 677903 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::=echo hi
< 1575257396 955497 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi
< 1575257403 177269 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :::=echo hi
< 1575257412 669118 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :: :=echo hi
< 1575257412 961614 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric ::: hi
< 1575257500 186924 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :testing more :=echo hi
< 1575257500 483796 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric ::testing more hi
< 1575259154 563954 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-7.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know much of how UML is working, although I think some time ago I read about some program called Subterfugue which you can override any system calls how you want it to, but I have been unable to find it recently.
< 1575260171 976763 :tromp!~tromp@2a02:a210:1585:3200:edac:78d3:b852:3dca JOIN :#esoteric
< 1575260429 966519 :tromp!~tromp@2a02:a210:1585:3200:edac:78d3:b852:3dca QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds
< 1575261615 267325 :hppavilion[1]!~omegasome@172.98.86.92 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1575262566 230816 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :PRIVMSG testing more :=echo hi
< 1575262580 521147 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow i got a private message out of that
< 1575262622 990232 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :PRIVMSG #esoteric :=echo hi
< 1575262623 262610 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi
< 1575262629 554544 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ PRIVMSG #esoteric :=echo hi
< 1575262629 828252 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi
< 1575262630 279618 :j-bot!eldis4@firefly.nu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: PRIVMSG # esoteric := echo hi
< 1575262640 217477 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops
< 1575262647 746282 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ "PRIVMSG #esoteric :=echo hi"
< 1575262648 32358 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi"
< 1575262648 447847 :j-bot!eldis4@firefly.nu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: |syntax error
< 1575262648 447881 :j-bot!eldis4@firefly.nu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: |       "PRIVMSG#esoteric :=echo hi"
< 1575262648 743793 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric ::oerjan: | "PRIVMSG#esoteric hi"
< 1575262657 82211 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ 'PRIVMSG #esoteric :=echo hi'
< 1575262657 382303 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi'
< 1575262657 776379 :j-bot!eldis4@firefly.nu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: PRIVMSG #esoteric :=echo hi
< 1575262657 945954 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi
< 1575262668 8641 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :whee
< 1575262741 835260 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :bfbot: =echo hi
< 1575262782 159000 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is the point where i should actually have known J
< 1575262787 216727 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ 2* 'a'
< 1575262787 988841 :j-bot!eldis4@firefly.nu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: |domain error
< 1575262788 57357 :j-bot!eldis4@firefly.nu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: |   2    *'a'
< 1575262795 472678 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmph
< 1575262852 101810 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ 'a' 'b'
< 1575262852 865010 :j-bot!eldis4@firefly.nu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: |syntax error
< 1575262852 865051 :j-bot!eldis4@firefly.nu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: |       'a''b'
< 1575262862 69441 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ 'a'+'b'
< 1575262862 811360 :j-bot!eldis4@firefly.nu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: |domain error
< 1575262862 811405 :j-bot!eldis4@firefly.nu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: |   'a'    +'b'
< 1575262950 868059 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ 'PRIVMSG #esoteric :=echo [ 1'
< 1575262951 273587 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ 1'
< 1575262951 686294 :j-bot!eldis4@firefly.nu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: PRIVMSG #esoteric :=echo [ 1
< 1575262951 834213 :j-bot!eldis4@firefly.nu PRIVMSG #esoteric :bfbot: |open quote
< 1575262951 834256 :j-bot!eldis4@firefly.nu PRIVMSG #esoteric :bfbot: |   1'
< 1575262951 869712 :j-bot!eldis4@firefly.nu PRIVMSG #esoteric :bfbot: |    ^
< 1575262951 905924 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ 1
< 1575262952 136217 :j-bot!eldis4@firefly.nu PRIVMSG #esoteric :bfbot: |ask later
< 1575262973 109968 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i c it has flood protection
< 1575262995 728378 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :just as well i found out before constructing the whole thing
< 1575263118 158382 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess there are no obvious unprotected botloops, then
< 1575263183 163574 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-bot: [ 2
< 1575263184 3553 :j-bot!eldis4@firefly.nu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: 2
< 1575263270 594376 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEso could trigger it, but not respond
< 1575263322 430696 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds
< 1575263335 616831 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1575263410 585379 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :=echo lambdabot: @run 1
< 1575263410 918425 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot: @run 1
< 1575263417 656115 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :already ignored
< 1575263443 764537 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...i suppose someone already tested that
< 1575263814 93266 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-7.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it can be programmed to detect a possible bot loop then it could use NOTICE rather than PRIVMSG in the case where a bot loop is suspected, since that would prevent it, I think. (Assuming the bot is correctly programmed; if it isn't then it won't work but then maybe the improperly programmed bot should be kicked; once the programmer corrects it then they will rejoin)
< 1575264235 808900 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-7.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is the organization ID 36#UUID (1439221) for PostScript XUID in use?
< 1575264296 281946 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: bfbot is improperly programmed but all the other bots seem to be immune to it
< 1575264322 167208 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so we're letting it be while waiting for kspalaiologos to fix it.
< 1575264350 399164 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :( HackEso wasn't immune until yesterday. )
< 1575264403 1023 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-7.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK
< 1575264767 949035 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-7.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I would guess that the numbers which are in use are much smaller than that, but I don't know. I do know that registration is no longer possible, because they no longer recommend using XUID.)
< 1575266690 538148 :tromp!~tromp@2a02:a210:1585:3200:edac:78d3:b852:3dca JOIN :#esoteric
< 1575267005 533488 :tromp!~tromp@2a02:a210:1585:3200:edac:78d3:b852:3dca QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds
< 1575269444 539823 :kritixilithos!~kritixili@gateway/tor-sasl/kritixilithos JOIN :#esoteric
< 1575269980 141 :tromp!~tromp@2a02:a210:1585:3200:edac:78d3:b852:3dca JOIN :#esoteric
< 1575270203 528554 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds
< 1575270236 982405 :tromp!~tromp@2a02:a210:1585:3200:edac:78d3:b852:3dca QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds
< 1575270473 535418 :tromp!~tromp@2a02:a210:1585:3200:800b:b89b:5e91:49a JOIN :#esoteric
< 1575270788 556804 :tromp!~tromp@2a02:a210:1585:3200:800b:b89b:5e91:49a QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds
< 1575272116 306899 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :dr. rakethorn should know better than uttering the words "No trouble at all."
< 1575272835 989094 :tromp!~tromp@2a02:a210:1585:3200:800b:b89b:5e91:49a JOIN :#esoteric
< 1575273357 832720 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-7.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who is Rakethorn?
< 1575273706 221233 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18b982ad.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1575273871 595907 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b982ad.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1575275179 191775 :tromp!~tromp@2a02:a210:1585:3200:800b:b89b:5e91:49a QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1575275317 191150 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-141.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you could put a sleep into the J statement so it doesn't get flooded
< 1575275579 467349 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-141.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ 'please sleep 10 seconds then print this string'[6!:3]10
< 1575275583 763570 :j-bot!eldis4@firefly.nu PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: |timeout
< 1575275594 595975 :tromp!~tromp@2a02:a210:1585:3200:d49e:181b:3f2b:fe01 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1575275595 772526 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-141.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ 'please sleep 6 seconds then print this string'[6!:3]6
< 1575275600 40799 :j-bot!eldis4@firefly.nu PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: |timeout
< 1575275605 68153 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-141.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ 'please sleep 4 seconds then print this string'[6!:3]4
< 1575275609 401098 :j-bot!eldis4@firefly.nu PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: |timeout
< 1575275613 516071 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-141.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh
< 1575275618 820775 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-141.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ 'please sleep 2 seconds then print this string'[6!:3]2
< 1575275621 537920 :j-bot!eldis4@firefly.nu PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: please sleep 2 seconds then print this string
< 1575275628 820802 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-141.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that seems wrong
< 1575275670 536548 :tromp_!~tromp@2a02:a210:1585:3200:f8bc:68de:8744:3df9 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1575275672 744464 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-141.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well
< 1575275897 555579 :tromp!~tromp@2a02:a210:1585:3200:d49e:181b:3f2b:fe01 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds
< 1575275975 537058 :tromp_!~tromp@2a02:a210:1585:3200:f8bc:68de:8744:3df9 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds
< 1575276102 888713 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-7.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know if maybe some of the filters in my Farbfeld Utilities which I have not seen in other programs, might be included in Mathematica, such as the tensor product of two pictures.
< 1575276495 983106 :tromp!~tromp@2a02:a210:1585:3200:f8bc:68de:8744:3df9 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1575276953 409027 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: oh i didn't think that J might have a sleep function
< 1575276993 660477 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: girl genius character
< 1575277090 84549 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ 'fungot'
< 1575277090 222089 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: subtract ze two and ye have daylight hours? those people are nerds!
< 1575277090 766344 :j-bot!eldis4@firefly.nu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: fungot
< 1575277127 814794 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-bot's insistence on putting the nick means it can only trigger bfbot
< 1575277181 238444 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe bfbot could do the sleep
< 1575277194 487011 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :=help str
< 1575277194 676348 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :bfbot is a bot executing brainfuck natively. You may add your very own commands to the bot.
< 1575277194 711892 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Commands: =str =def =undef =list =plist =doc. More help at https://esolangs.org/wiki/bfbot
< 1575277201 297909 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-141.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: even if there's no sleep function, you can just make a busy loop
< 1575277204 31160 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :=help =str
< 1575277207 518730 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :bfbot is a bot executing brainfuck natively. You may add your very own commands to the bot.
< 1575277207 518774 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Commands: =str =def =undef =list =plist =doc. More help at https://esolangs.org/wiki/bfbot
< 1575277232 411896 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-141.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :in J that is
< 1575277272 291818 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah but bfbot might work too
< 1575277348 238264 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-141.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it might, I don't know how brainfuck it's willing to run a brainfuck loop
< 1575277432 3895 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-141.catv.broadband.hu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1575277933 712546 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm
< 1575277940 349514 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION =help str
< 1575277969 17960 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION reads scrollback
< 1575277981 157446 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :fun li'l bug with the raw PRIVMSGs
< 1575281167 600273 :tromp!~tromp@2a02:a210:1585:3200:f8bc:68de:8744:3df9 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1575282117 284822 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1575282279 146580 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :=def 1str ++++++++[->++++++++<]>+.+.+.
< 1575282279 311888 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Error: Name can contain only lowercase letters and digits.
< 1575282288 372711 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :=str 1s++++++++[->++++++++<]>+.+.+.
< 1575282288 507468 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok
< 1575282293 51463 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :=def 1msg1
< 1575282293 188280 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, defined 'msg1'
< 1575282294 815780 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :=msg1
< 1575282294 965799 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ABC
< 1575282427 460241 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :=str 1s++++++++[->++++++++[->++++++++[->++++++++[->++++++++[->++++++++[->++++++++[->++++++++[->++++++++<]<]<]<]<]<]<]<]<]>>>>>>>>>> ++++++++[->++++++++<]>+.+.+.
< 1575282427 611806 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok
< 1575282432 229231 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :=def 1msg1
< 1575282432 386430 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, defined 'msg1'
< 1575282433 831737 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :=msg1
< 1575282433 999629 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ABC
< 1575282454 451689 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :=str 1s++++++++[->++++++++[->++++++++[->++++++++[->++++++++[->++++++++[->++++++++[->++++++++[->++++++++[->++++++++<]<]<]<]<]<]<]<]<]<]>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ++++++++[->++++++++<]>+.+.+.
< 1575282454 635328 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok
< 1575282456 933366 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :=def 1msg1
< 1575282457 10764 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, defined 'msg1'
< 1575282458 989469 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :=msg1
< 1575282459 249156 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ABC
< 1575282469 898349 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :=str 1s++++++++[->++++++++[->++++++++[->++++++++[->++++++++[->++++++++[->++++++++[->++++++++[->++++++++[->++++++++[->++++++++<]<]<]<]<]<]<]<]<]<]<]>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ++++++++[->++++++++<]>+.+.+.
< 1575282470 48328 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok
< 1575282472 224948 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :=def 1msg1
< 1575282472 301690 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, defined 'msg1'
< 1575282473 867427 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :=msg1
< 1575282474 460842 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ABC
< 1575282485 449988 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :=str 1s++++++++[->++++++++[->++++++++[->++++++++[->++++++++[->++++++++[->++++++++[->++++++++[->++++++++[->++++++++[->++++++++[->++++++++<]<]<]<]<]<]<]<]<]<]<]<]>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ++++++++[->++++++++<]>+.+.+.
< 1575282485 657400 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok
< 1575282502 236188 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait, that doesn't work
< 1575282515 918177 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or might not, I'm not sure
< 1575282525 83343 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you write a proper delay loop in brainfuck?
< 1575282545 485890 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm thinking
< 1575282627 337617 :laerlingSAP!~laerlings@193.16.224.2 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1575282646 809333 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you mean by a delay loop
< 1575282655 149713 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :busy beavers?
< 1575282665 675175 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, not that long
< 1575282682 128260 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just want to get close to bfbot timing out the program and see how long it takes in real time
< 1575283507 562870 :tromp!~tromp@2a02:a210:1585:3200:f8bc:68de:8744:3df9 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1575283662 76556 :tromp!~tromp@2a02:a210:1585:3200:f8bc:68de:8744:3df9 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1575283678 597306 :tromp!~tromp@2a02:a210:1585:3200:f8bc:68de:8744:3df9 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1575283718 360604 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :=str 1s++[->++[->++.<]<]
< 1575283718 489100 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok
< 1575283721 115162 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :=def 1msg1
< 1575283721 257705 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, defined 'msg1'
< 1575283722 74066 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :=msg1
< 1575283722 230901 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :....
< 1575283735 672276 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :=str 1s++[->++[->++[->++.<]<]<]
< 1575283735 838789 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok
< 1575283737 67337 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :=def 1msg1
< 1575283737 160190 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, defined 'msg1'
< 1575283738 377903 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :=msg1
< 1575283738 520134 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :.......
< 1575283745 935319 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :=str 1s++[->++[->++[->++[->++.<]<]<]<]
< 1575283746 84216 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok
< 1575283747 873323 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :=def 1msg1
< 1575283747 949381 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, defined 'msg1'
< 1575283749 556544 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :=msg1
< 1575283749 750589 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :.............. 
< 1575283761 848216 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :=str 1s++[->++[->++[->++[->++[->++.<]<]<]<]<]
< 1575283761 980741 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok
< 1575283764 420935 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :=def 1msg1
< 1575283764 498550 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, defined 'msg1'
< 1575283766 108320 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :=msg1
< 1575283766 453181 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :.............. "$&(*,.02468:<>@
< 1575283805 874107 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :=str 1s++++[->++++[->++++[->++++[->++++[->++++.<]<]<]<]<]
< 1575283806 48360 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok
< 1575283807 647016 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :=def 1msg1
< 1575283807 731690 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, defined 'msg1'
< 1575283809 796343 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :=msg1
< 1575283809 936256 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :....... $(,048<@DHLPTX\`dhlptx|.............................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................
< 1575283822 120494 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then this should work, and either I made a typo or it was too short
< 1575283898 810033 :Lykaina!~lyka@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi
< 1575283917 951960 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :=str 1s++++++++[->++++++++[->++++++++[->++++++++[->++++++++[->++++++++[->++++++++[->++++++++[->++++++++<]<]<]<]<]<]<]<] ++++++++[->++++++++<]>+.+.+.
< 1575283918 105716 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok
< 1575283923 608464 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :=def 1msg1
< 1575283923 782459 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, defined 'msg1'
< 1575283924 699436 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :=msg1
< 1575283924 808094 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ABC
< 1575283949 815074 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :=str 1s++++++++[->++++++++[->++++++++[->++++++++[->++++++++[->++++++++[->++++++++[->++++++++[->++++++++[->++++++++[->++++++++<]<]<]<]<]<]<]<]<]<] ++++++++[->++++++++<]>+.+.+.
< 1575283949 972130 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok
< 1575283952 76919 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :=def 1msg1
< 1575283952 205035 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, defined 'msg1'
< 1575283953 803239 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :=msg1
< 1575283954 459818 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ABC
< 1575283967 65080 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :=str 1s++++++++[->++++++++[->++++++++[->++++++++[->++++++++[->++++++++[->++++++++[->++++++++[->++++++++[->++++++++[->++++++++[->++++++++[->++++++++<]<]<]<]<]<]<]<]<]<]<]<] ++++++++[->++++++++<]>+.+.+.
< 1575283967 219743 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok
< 1575283970 636401 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :=def 1msg1
< 1575283970 707683 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, defined 'msg1'
< 1575283972 280071 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :=msg1
< 1575283996 171369 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf >->->>>>-->-[--<<[-<]+>++[-->++]-->++],[.,]!test
< 1575283996 249001 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :test
< 1575284003 848007 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf >->->>>>>>>>-->-[--<<[-<]+>++[-->++]-->++],[.,]!test
< 1575284003 894426 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :test
< 1575284010 546140 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf >->->>>>>>>>>>>>-->-[--<<[-<]+>++[-->++]-->++],[.,]!test
< 1575284010 613174 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :test
< 1575284015 581332 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :=str 1s++++++++[->++++++++[->++++++++[->++++++++[->++++++++[->++++++++[->++++++++[->++++++++[->++++++++[->++++++++[->++++++++[->++++++++<]<]<]<]<]<]<]<]<]<]<] ++++++++[->++++++++<]>+.+.+.
< 1575284015 764949 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok
< 1575284016 932201 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf >->->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>-->-[--<<[-<]+>++[-->++]-->++],[.,]!test
< 1575284017 421874 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :test
< 1575284019 429521 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :=def 1msg1
< 1575284019 511698 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, defined 'msg1'
< 1575284021 304103 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :=msg1
< 1575284023 912083 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf >->->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>-->-[--<<[-<]+>++[-->++]-->++],[.,]!test
< 1575284024 634002 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric : ...out of time!
< 1575284031 738379 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there you go, a binary counter
< 1575284048 241484 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :=str 1s+++[->++++++++[->++++++++[->++++++++[->++++++++[->++++++++[->++++++++[->++++++++[->++++++++[->++++++++[->++++++++[->++++++++<]<]<]<]<]<]<]<]<]<]<] ++++++++[->++++++++<]>+.+.+.
< 1575284048 393692 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok
< 1575284050 597058 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :=def 1msg1
< 1575284050 697739 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, defined 'msg1'
< 1575284054 55623 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wib_jonas: ^
< 1575284054 354783 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :=msg1
< 1575284093 456397 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: nice
< 1575284105 351040 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :=str 1s++[->++++++++[->++++++++[->++++++++[->++++++++[->++++++++[->++++++++[->++++++++[->++++++++[->++++++++[->++++++++[->++++++++<]<]<]<]<]<]<]<]<]<]<] ++++++++[->++++++++<]>+.+.+.
< 1575284105 484356 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok
< 1575284108 132887 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :=def 1msg1
< 1575284108 216918 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, defined 'msg1'
< 1575284112 972296 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :=msg1
< 1575284127 728872 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :=str 1s++++++++[->++++++++[->++++++++.[->++++++++[->++++++++[->++++++++[->++++++++[->++++++++[->++++++++[->++++++++[->++++++++[->++++++++<]<]<]<]<]<]<]<]<]<]<] ++++++++[->++++++++<]>+.+.+.
< 1575284127 911731 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok
< 1575284129 125772 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :=def 1msg1
< 1575284129 161199 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, defined 'msg1'
< 1575284130 515557 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :=msg1
< 1575284136 306620 :Lykaina!~lyka@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :spamming the channel with brainfuck?
< 1575284139 535540 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1575284167 921885 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm
< 1575284181 624016 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :=str 1s+[->++++++++[->++++++++.[->++++++++[->++++++++[->++++++++[->++++++++[->++++++++[->++++++++[->++++++++[->++++++++[->++++++++<]<]<]<]<]<]<]<]<]<]<] ++++++++[->++++++++<]>+.+.+.
< 1575284181 781886 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok
< 1575284184 846815 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :=def 1msg1
< 1575284184 915859 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, defined 'msg1'
< 1575284186 404949 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :=msg1
< 1575284187 171754 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :........ABC
< 1575284195 415817 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe #esoteric-blah for the intermediate stages and #esoteric for the final results? 
< 1575284206 893148 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure
< 1575284329 39611 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.7.195.dynamic.ufanet.ru JOIN :#esoteric
< 1575285138 157385 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :0Q9n0kZWzxzH
< 1575285425 513667 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bfbot sources: https://github.com/KrzysztofSzewczyk/bfbot-repository
< 1575285509 38888 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf >->>>>>>>>>>>>-->-[<<[-<]+>++[-->++]-->],[.,]!test
< 1575285509 101672 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :test
< 1575285537 790743 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :simplified the binary idle loop a bit. alas the timeout of bfbot seems to be too small to work for this
< 1575285538 74113 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :a:oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :simplified the binary idle loop a bit. alas the timeout of bfbot seems to be too small to work for this
< 1575285552 962374 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the fuck
< 1575285567 700302 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :another bug :P
< 1575285589 721258 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope, apparently that's not the sources, just the user-defined commands
< 1575285590 39171 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric ::wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope, apparently that's not the sources, just the user-defined commands
< 1575285596 623142 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what
< 1575285601 946444 :kritixilithos!~kritixili@gateway/tor-sasl/kritixilithos PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh the unescaped \ does it
< 1575285614 732861 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kritixilithos: i suspect one of your experiments in #esoteric-blah --- yeah
< 1575285615 46551 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric ::oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kritixilithos: i suspect one of your experiments in #esoteric-blah --- yeah
< 1575285618 741060 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :...
< 1575285624 857508 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :seriously?
< 1575285627 844057 :kritixilithos!~kritixili@gateway/tor-sasl/kritixilithos PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting
< 1575285629 457464 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently :P
< 1575285644 67347 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but there's
< 1575285647 51411 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :=echo \
< 1575285648 165919 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a cr and an lf
< 1575285648 448737 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric ::wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a cr and an lf
< 1575285654 825668 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how can the backslash 
< 1575285659 513248 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this bot is weird
< 1575285662 139200 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(to demonstrate it here)
< 1575285678 637729 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :heck
< 1575285686 707250 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wib_jonas: we already knew it didn't treat backslashes right
< 1575285694 371391 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes I know
< 1575285704 996637 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh
< 1575285709 474136 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell kspalaiologos Your bot has even more trouble, try =echo \
< 1575285709 856041 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1575285711 721785 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a fascinatng bug
< 1575286017 112163 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite
< 1575286978 703219 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :CXPxQgddhB-U
< 1575286999 117766 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :CXPxQgddhB-U
< 1575287003 133157 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :CXPxQgddhB-U
< 1575287165 700906 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :=str 0s++++++++[->+++++++++<]>+.+.+.
< 1575287165 984700 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok
< 1575287168 896087 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :=def 0quine
< 1575287169 5479 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, defined 'quine'
< 1575287170 7463 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :=quine
< 1575287170 978946 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :IJK
< 1575287193 856362 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if the following loops, please stop it with: =def 0quine
< 1575287201 945351 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :=str 1s ++++++++++++++++[->+>++>+++>++++>+++++>++++++>+++++++>++++++++<<<<<<<<] >>>++++++++++.>>.++.<+++++++++.>++++.<++++.>---.<------.<<.+++.>>>>+++++.>+++.<++++++++++.>+.<----------.>--.<++++.------.<<<<+++++++++.>>>>-.++++.----.+++++++++++++.>++.<<<<<------------.>.+++.>>>>---.++++.<------.+++++.---------.
< 1575287202 954929 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok
< 1575287204 239270 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :=def 1msg
< 1575287205 9712 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, defined 'msg'
< 1575287218 51329 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::PRIVMSG #esoteric,bfbot :=quine
< 1575287218 968227 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :IJK
< 1575287228 6894 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :=def 1quine
< 1575287229 953821 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, defined 'quine'
< 1575287231 973826 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :=def 0msg
< 1575287233 955385 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, defined 'msg'
< 1575287234 124649 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :=quine
< 1575287235 953027 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric ::PRIVMSG #esoteric,bfbot :=quine
< 1575287244 398099 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::PRIVMSG #esoteric,bfbot :=quine
< 1575287245 973311 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric ::PRIVMSG #esoteric,bfbot :=quine
< 1575287247 3632 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric ::PRIVMSG #esoteric,bfbot :=quine
< 1575287248 959217 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric ::PRIVMSG #esoteric,bfbot :=quine
< 1575287249 975207 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric ::PRIVMSG #esoteric,bfbot :=quine
< 1575287252 37850 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric ::PRIVMSG #esoteric,bfbot :=quine
< 1575287252 998184 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric ::PRIVMSG #esoteric,bfbot :=quine
< 1575287254 968353 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric ::PRIVMSG #esoteric,bfbot :=quine
< 1575287255 981727 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric ::PRIVMSG #esoteric,bfbot :=quine
< 1575287257 961616 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric ::PRIVMSG #esoteric,bfbot :=quine
< 1575287259 13477 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric ::PRIVMSG #esoteric,bfbot :=quine
< 1575287260 960423 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric ::PRIVMSG #esoteric,bfbot :=quine
< 1575287262 2561 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric ::PRIVMSG #esoteric,bfbot :=quine
< 1575287264 556 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric ::PRIVMSG #esoteric,bfbot :=quine
< 1575287264 957167 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric ::PRIVMSG #esoteric,bfbot :=quine
< 1575287266 953253 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric ::PRIVMSG #esoteric,bfbot :=quine
< 1575287267 920224 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :=def 0quine
< 1575287267 973947 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric ::PRIVMSG #esoteric,bfbot :=quine
< 1575287268 969942 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, defined 'quine'
< 1575287269 953369 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :IJK
< 1575287275 231262 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :=undef msg
< 1575287276 954573 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok
< 1575287295 844242 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I found a loop
< 1575289124 291261 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :1
< 1575289887 828477 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :a self-quine? nice..
< 1575289921 193490 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, hah
< 1575290447 81131 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :... wtf.
< 1575290531 538060 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: it's a new bug. apparently bfbot matches not only the latest := in the line, but also the latest :PRIVMSG , so you can make it think that the channel is #esoteric,bfbot and then it sends its reply there
< 1575290573 442185 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's also a different bug in bfbot about messages that end with a backslash, but that's not used here
< 1575290877 732999 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://adventofcode.com/2019/about simple programming puzzles in case you want to solve something
< 1575291110 41682 :Serpent7776!~Serpent77@78-11-8-249.static.ip.netia.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric
< 1575291311 799671 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :=str 1s.
< 1575291311 914954 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok
< 1575291684 343826 :hppavilion[1]!~omegasome@172.98.86.92 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds
< 1575291787 594535 :hppavilion[1]!~omegasome@172.98.86.92 JOIN :#esoteric
> 1575293445 949961 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Komikaabi 5*  10New user account
< 1575293473 594687 :hppavilion[1]!~omegasome@172.98.86.92 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds
> 1575293651 843703 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67602&oldid=67582 5* 03Komikaabi 5* (+192) 10
< 1575294703 986036 :hppavilion[1]!~omegasome@172.98.86.92 JOIN :#esoteric
> 1575295025 390890 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Initialization14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=67603 5* 03A 5* (+582) 10Created page with "== Inconsistencies in the description and sample programs == Based on the second example, I can see that there is parameter passing for a (probably-is) function: <pre> factori..."
< 1575295417 41274 :hppavilion[1]!~omegasome@172.98.86.92 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds
< 1575295532 964395 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@user-94-254-207-126.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric
< 1575296297 953813 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@user-94-254-207-126.play-internet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds
< 1575297665 775635 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :did kspalaiologos just get scared of us?
< 1575297765 345787 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or was this the imitation one?
< 1575298002 851539 :laerlingSAP!~laerlings@193.16.224.2 QUIT :Quit: Leaving
< 1575299517 596168 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1575299720 585435 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode JOIN :#esoteric
< 1575299802 450196 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :somehow I'd expect bfbot to have fewer bugs if it were actually written in BF
< 1575299829 810034 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that unescaped-backslash thing is really worrying, it makes me think that there may be a security exploit in there somewhere
< 1575299834 471717 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :=echo $(hostname)
< 1575299834 767434 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :$(hostname)
< 1575299841 417925 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, at least it isn't a shell-escaping issue
< 1575299846 270174 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :=echo $(hostname) \
< 1575299852 689919 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm
< 1575299853 31563 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :$(hostname) :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm
< 1575299864 71316 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what sort of escaping is that?
< 1575299870 570954 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :=echo test\r\ntest
< 1575299870 877103 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :testrntest
< 1575299881 499074 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :=echo test\ test
< 1575299881 857613 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :test test
< 1575299887 439434 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :=echo test\0test
< 1575299887 784933 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :test0test
< 1575299903 40137 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :=echo test\\test
< 1575299903 355009 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :test\test
< 1575299916 558932 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't seem to escape anything but newlines and itself?
< 1575299919 172277 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :=echo test\'test
< 1575299919 537184 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :test'test
< 1575299922 149944 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :=echo test\"test
< 1575299922 439795 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :test"test
< 1575299945 677853 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :=echo test\\\\test
< 1575299946 25784 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :test\\test
< 1575299952 270023 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :=echo test\\\\\\\test
< 1575299952 557006 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :test\\\test
< 1575299959 210386 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :=echo test \\\
< 1575299960 797864 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :test
< 1575299961 164950 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :test \:ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :test
< 1575299982 258365 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't offhand think of an escaping mechanism that works like that
< 1575299993 58900 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, hmm, do Makefiles escape like that?
< 1575299995 558703 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`make
< 1575299996 997352 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
< 1575300002 317908 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pwd
< 1575300009 197460 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/tmp
< 1575300050 578944 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` printf 'all:\n\techo a b \\a \\b c d\\\n\te f' > Makefile
< 1575300051 602773 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1575300053 350828 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`make
< 1575300054 166806 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo a b \a \b c d\ \ e f \ a b a b c de f
< 1575300075 909990 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat Makefile
< 1575300076 676104 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :all: \ 	echo a b \a \b c d\ \ 	e f
< 1575300111 121763 :tromp!~tromp@2a02:a210:1585:3200:f8bc:68de:8744:3df9 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1575300114 173908 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, so Makefiles don't quite escape like that because they don't swallow the backslashes
< 1575300116 790486 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm Makefile
< 1575300117 554750 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1575300132 405886 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the backslashes mid-line, that is)
< 1575300204 561262 :tromp!~tromp@ip-213-127-58-137.ip.prioritytelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1575300376 236588 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: q strings in perl, sort of
< 1575300404 265629 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, it's pretty alien
< 1575300747 718831 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :make love not files
< 1575300790 59889 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :it certainly exhibits some fascinatng behaviour, between those two bugs
< 1575300880 951245 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :was the :=echo bug fixed yet?
< 1575300881 413698 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric ::was the bug fixed yet?
< 1575300882 556716 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: three bugs, the way I count
< 1575300898 969897 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually I don't get where the leading : comes from when that bug is used
< 1575300902 872795 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: finds := anywhere in the line, finds :PRIVMSG anywhere in the line, and mangles backslashes in the input
< 1575300903 57758 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: finds := anywhere in the line, finds :No such command. Try =help.
< 1575300912 466143 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh aha
< 1575300936 177113 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: the part before the " :=echo" is taken as a channel name
< 1575300936 336404 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: the part before the " :No such command. Try =help.
< 1575300939 778149 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :=msg1
< 1575300957 814919 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :=def +++++++++[->++++++++<]>+.+.+.
< 1575300958 73889 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Error: Expected a number.
< 1575300961 524728 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :=str 1s+++++++++[->++++++++<]>+.+.+.
< 1575300961 705662 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok
< 1575300964 924417 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :=def 1msg1
< 1575300965 47182 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, defined 'msg1'
< 1575300966 78801 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :=msg1
< 1575300966 172179 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :IJK
< 1575300972 192878 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pre :=msg1 post
< 1575300972 397823 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :IJK
< 1575300989 587813 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, maybe not then
< 1575301019 97951 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then how does :PRIVMSG #esoteric-blah,#esoteric :=echo foo work?
< 1575301019 402870 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :foo work?
< 1575301043 447983 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh
< 1575301065 358689 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's because it expects "PRIVMSG foo :=echo bar", strips the :=echo and prepends a new : for the PRIVMSG reply
< 1575301076 991491 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol what
< 1575301081 82073 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :prefix :PRIVMSG #esoteric-blah,#esoteric extra arguments that the irc will ignore :this will be part of the reply message :=msg1 argument
< 1575301081 253323 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :IJK
< 1575301086 764862 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope
< 1575301087 814535 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :that line PMed me
< 1575301090 750121 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't get it
< 1575301090 930006 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway
< 1575301129 789887 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: yes, that part is correct, that's because if you send a PRIVMSG to bfbot, it has to PRIVMSG you back
< 1575301183 455683 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :ye, but it expects that it's replacing the :=echo with :, but really it's removing another :=echo and the prepending with : thus leads to a double :
< 1575301183 726686 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric ::ye, but it expects that it's replacing the :=echo with :, but really it's removing another :=echo and the prepending with : thus leads to a double and the prepending with : thus leads to a double :
< 1575301191 126031 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is why it echoes back, I think
< 1575301212 445524 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :prefix :PRIVMSG #esoteric-blah,#esoteric nonsense :prefix :=eecchhoo argument
< 1575301212 739393 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nnoonnsseennssee  ::pprreeffiixx  aarrgguummeenntt
< 1575301219 738713 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :weird
< 1575301230 3720 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :....what
< 1575301238 707215 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's uhh confusing
< 1575301241 588251 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it looks like the part between the channel and the command is part of the input
< 1575301273 735019 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh is eecchhoo an actual command?
< 1575301282 377624 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1575301288 151236 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I defined it to print each character twice
< 1575301291 55922 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was very confused for a moment
< 1575301295 920896 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :righty
< 1575301300 324261 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :=str 1s,[.-,]
< 1575301300 473467 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok
< 1575301310 669560 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :=def 1edcbhgon
< 1575301310 797703 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, defined 'edcbhgon'
< 1575301316 395176 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :=edcbhgon esoteric
< 1575301316 793804 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :esoteric
< 1575301322 628793 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :=str 1s,[.-.,]
< 1575301322 826798 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok
< 1575301324 206290 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :=def 1edcbhgon
< 1575301324 282583 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, defined 'edcbhgon'
< 1575301326 200721 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :=edcbhgon esoteric
< 1575301326 331282 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :edsrontsedrqihcb.
< 1575301339 717600 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :prefix :PRIVMSG #esoteric-blah,#esoteric nonsense :prefix :=edcbhon argument
< 1575301339 902573 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nonsense
< 1575301369 998210 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :=str 1s,[.+.,]
< 1575301370 155679 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok
< 1575301379 1121 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :=efcdhiop esoteric
< 1575301379 61746 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :No such command. Try =help.
< 1575301390 501962 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :=def 1edcbhgon
< 1575301390 632726 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, defined 'edcbhgon'
< 1575301405 977811 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :=def 1efcdhiop
< 1575301406 96775 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, defined 'efcdhiop'
< 1575301413 874056 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :prefix :PRIVMSG #esoteric-blah,#esoteric nonsense :prefix :=efcdhiop argument
< 1575301414 296286 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :noopnostefnostef !:;pqrseffgijxy !abrsghuvmnefnotu.
< 1575301423 330603 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :=undef edcbhon
< 1575301423 468429 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok
< 1575301440 388605 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :=str 1s,[.-.,]
< 1575301440 524859 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok
< 1575301452 511369 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :=def 1edcbhgon
< 1575301452 725656 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, defined 'edcbhgon'
< 1575301466 797004 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :prefix :PRIVMSG #esoteric-blah,#esoteric nonsense :prefix :=edcbhgon argument
< 1575301467 133695 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nmonnmsrednmsred .:9porqedfeihxw .a`rqgfutmlednmts.
< 1575301610 887983 :tromp!~tromp@ip-213-127-58-137.ip.prioritytelecom.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1575301879 703010 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :=def fftest ,[.,]!hello
< 1575301879 840162 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Error: Expected a number.
< 1575301889 883034 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :hrm
< 1575301900 389882 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :can I do a define in a single line?
< 1575301904 206493 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no
< 1575301913 836476 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah okay
< 1575301971 303742 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :do we know of the str slots are namespaced per user? or would I mess with others' expeirments if I play with it?
< 1575302025 619780 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suspect they aren't namespaced, but there are ten of them so you can just choose two numbers that we aren't using
< 1575302041 686015 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the str slots are temporary, they only matter until you define a command from them
< 1575302059 654875 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah
< 1575302081 263564 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm
< 1575302092 905095 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the str slots are just there so you can define commands whose brainfuck source doesn't fit in a single irc message
< 1575302137 418838 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if any of these bugs (like the backspace one) interact in any way with the persisting of commands
< 1575302142 214729 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently the bot is optimized for commands more interesting than echo, in which case the source is likely almost always large
< 1575302174 773597 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know, you'll have to check https://github.com/KrzysztofSzewczyk/bfbot-repository/tree/master/BRAINFUCKBOT_COMMANDS for that
< 1575302184 114683 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah
< 1575302204 768169 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :not messing too much atm from phone, but it'd be interesting to try
< 1575302240 909185 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :also with the doc command as well
< 1575302449 13709 :tromp!~tromp@2a02:a210:1585:3200:714a:40a7:730e:149 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1575302456 570079 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds
< 1575302520 174923 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that's fascinating
< 1575302526 756455 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :=doc sandbox
< 1575302526 917786 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sandbox: abc
< 1575302531 483973 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric ::::=doc sandbox
< 1575302531 638807 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sandbox: abc
< 1575302536 854489 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :foo :=doc sandbox
< 1575302536 984772 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Error: Invalid entry name.
< 1575302599 292485 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, the Giant promised an OotS strip for today, please post it
< 1575302599 568391 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :wib_jonas: unless it's some crazy thick ethernet and/ or xscheme.el. kill the `*scheme*' buffer? i mea, the 10 items limit is annoying, though
< 1575302631 631481 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: apparently fungot agrees with you about the 10 slots
< 1575302631 726535 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :wib_jonas: or someone did use ga for icfp? :) htmlprag?
< 1575302641 934514 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric ::p
< 1575302666 881998 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`olist 1188
< 1575302667 750445 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :olist 1188: shachaf oerjan Sgeo FireFly boily nortti b_jonas
< 1575302675 204565 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks fungot
< 1575302675 346690 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :wib_jonas: i've got this lego-based language sorted, i think i've seen it, but i
< 1575302675 930367 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, fungot. Thungot.
< 1575302701 869628 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wib_jonas: that's an old OOTS comic
< 1575302711 980744 :tromp!~tromp@2a02:a210:1585:3200:714a:40a7:730e:149 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds
< 1575302713 693591 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, I saw it a few days ago
< 1575302717 45495 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :did we really forget to olist it?
< 1575302762 41486 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah no
< 1575302763 725551 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://esolangs.org/logs/2019-11.html#liEd
< 1575302767 486667 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you did olist it
< 1575302768 266039 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry
< 1575302779 59770 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got confused
< 1575302787 414350 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the next one is due today, IIRC (it's a rare situation in which the date is listed in advance)
< 1575302816 993202 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, that's what I said above to fungоt
< 1575302837 384772 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry for the fake olist
< 1575302856 893839 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1575303760 103562 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b982ad.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I bought a Switch. I kind of hate how closed off it is. I think I'll only use it for exclusive and/or non-PC games.
< 1575303774 80032 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b982ad.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which Pokemon game would be good for someone who hasn't played the main series before?
< 1575303934 541388 :tromp!~tromp@2a02:a210:1585:3200:714a:40a7:730e:149 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1575304809 361902 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b982ad.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`olist 1189
< 1575304813 347925 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :olist 1189: shachaf oerjan Sgeo FireFly boily nortti b_jonas
< 1575304930 348969 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a pity the ecosystem is closed and stuff, yeah
< 1575304982 836001 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like the hardware/controls and portability
< 1575305015 96653 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b982ad.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I sort of like the portability in that if my living situation changes, I might not bother to buy a TV, but for now the portability isn't so needed
< 1575305255 8551 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I really like having a projector and this is one of the reasons
< 1575305267 583491 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a nice, small, bright, LED-lit, full HD one
< 1575305825 359473 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b982ad.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nintendo seems a bit... evil in some ways, regarding how strictly they enforce copyright, incl. takedowns of videos (just saw Andi's tweets)
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< 1575306655 918099 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 NICK :Lord_of_Life
< 1575306792 45789 :Serpent7776!~Serpent77@78-11-8-249.static.ip.netia.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric
< 1575306860 948078 :Serpent7776!~Serpent77@78-11-8-249.static.ip.netia.com.pl QUIT :Client Quit
< 1575307818 637077 :kritixilithos!~kritixili@gateway/tor-sasl/kritixilithos QUIT :Quit: quit
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< 1575310608 329537 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1575310999 6878 :arseniiv_!~arseniiv@136.169.235.15 JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1575312885 971314 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :*nod*
< 1575313164 37703 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: yeah, I was thinking the other night how I'm likely to opt for a decent projector over a TV.. being able to use the projected-at surface for other things is a nice feature too
< 1575313234 32043 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :tbh with the Switch I like playing in portable mode anyhow, I don't really use the dock so far
< 1575313277 135222 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: yeah
< 1575313285 469413 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't like having a huge TV in my living room staring at me
< 1575313289 815557 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a void in the room
< 1575313301 439586 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the projector sits on a bookshelf and is barely noticable when off
< 1575313312 510313 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :we have one wall that's good for projection
< 1575313329 481267 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and my projector is bright enugh (plus surface close enough) that it's usable during the day with the regular blinds drawn, no blackout curtains needed
< 1575313337 430755 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was pretty spendy but very worth it
< 1575313342 14975 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :aside from that the home theater setup is cheap
< 1575313352 524960 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a pair of computer speakers on the projection wall
< 1575313362 382804 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't need super high fidelity sound or surround sound
< 1575313370 981247 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a small form factor windows computer
< 1575313447 593333 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :*nod*
< 1575313478 953185 :j4cbo!sid186930@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zhxtiosilwwdqnfq PRIVMSG #esoteric :that’s what I did in college
< 1575313520 736714 :j4cbo!sid186930@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zhxtiosilwwdqnfq PRIVMSG #esoteric :but we didn’t project on a wall, we got a super cheap 4x8 whiteboard thing
< 1575313597 785131 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :was that shiny?
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< 1575314247 948007 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 QUIT :Quit: Leaving
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> 1575316985 626644 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07$14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67604&oldid=66011 5* 03Dart 5* (-912) 10
< 1575317629 917635 :esowiki!~esowiki@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/esowiki JOIN :#esoteric
< 1575317653 795216 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I got a second bookcase and ordered a couch. It's going to be great.
< 1575317680 352436 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had so many books on the floor and table that as soon as I got the second bookcase together I filled it completely.
< 1575319060 647768 :LKoen!~LKoen@lstlambert-657-1-123-43.w92-154.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric
< 1575319334 935453 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-7.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would want a 4:3 TV set with the full controls on the panel on the right, like many old TV set. But also some stuff of new TV set, and some which I have not seen anywhere, too.
< 1575320105 580773 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: ceiling projector sounds like too much effort
< 1575320122 271394 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :putting ours in a little Ikea book cubby has been really effective
< 1575320493 510613 :MDead!~MDude@97-127-187-59.cdrr.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1575320641 994291 :MDude!~MDude@97-127-187-59.cdrr.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds
< 1575320648 642467 :MDead!~MDude@97-127-187-59.cdrr.qwest.net NICK :MDude
< 1575320910 117667 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-167.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :PRIVMSG #esoteric,#esoteric-blah :=echo Goodbye, cruel world
< 1575320910 921457 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Goodbye, cruel world
< 1575320917 165082 :bfbot!~bfbot@206.ip-51-91-102.eu QUIT :Disconnected by services
< 1575320982 344904 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-167.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell kspalaiologos I am holding the irc nick bfbot ransommed. Fix the serious bugs in your bot and you're getting it back.
< 1575320982 660371 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1575321094 566055 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-167.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is this too evil?
< 1575321597 760919 :atslash!~atslash@static.231.107.9.5.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds
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< 1575323713 858783 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why is it that escalators often have that green glow under the steps? Is it because of the eldritch energies powering them? 
< 1575323951 462406 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-7.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :They put Christmas lights, because it is Christmas.
< 1575324839 873838 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, i take inanimate computer code hostage all the time
< 1575324843 764665 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :perfectly normal
< 1575324914 72257 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i call it a "prize";  on land it is called "booty";    you might have a better term
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< 1575329029 107807 :tromp!~tromp@2a02:a210:1585:3200:714a:40a7:730e:149 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
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< 1575330488 831669 :imode-ruby!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: wtf, does his bot actually just accept commands from anybody?
< 1575330653 601209 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's what bots typically do. It's just that there's a bug that can make it send arbitrary messages to arbitrary destinations, not just reply on the channel the command was posted on.
< 1575330768 58942 :arseniiv_!~arseniiv@136.169.235.15 PRIVMSG #esoteric :raindrops on kittens and whiskers on roses…
< 1575330773 350268 :arseniiv_!~arseniiv@136.169.235.15 NICK :arseniiv
< 1575330971 909458 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-182.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: that, and also it accepts too many things as commands, and so can get into loops too easily
< 1575331086 932300 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-182.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :imode-ruby: yes, like fizzie says, HackEso, lambdabot and fungоt also accept commands from basically anybody
< 1575331179 959279 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.235.15 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds
< 1575331523 165671 :imode-ruby!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, should've clarified what I meant by "commands". bot commands are fine. controlling the bot via PRIVMSG is.. not fine.
< 1575331734 967735 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :AIUI, it wasn't really a matter of controlling the bot through any sort of intended control commands, more tricking it into messaging things to NickServ.
< 1575331763 789606 :imode-ruby!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhm. if you can PRIVMSG anything, you can hijack it.
< 1575332279 991967 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-182.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: sorry, you said you wanted to experiment with the bot later, but now you can't 
< 1575332711 239314 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :
< 1575333394 366812 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :BT has this thing called "InLinkUK", it's like a digital advertising sign they've installed on sidewalks + free wifi access point + some sort of tablet you can use in kiosk mode for "information". Except it had crashed, and the advertising screen was saying "Ubuntu 15.04 adl-uk-002661 tty1" and "adl-uk-002661 login: _"
< 1575333543 324886 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like it when screens like this are showing things they shouldn't be showing.
< 1575334131 246042 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :me too
< 1575334168 471656 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.reddit.com/r/bayarea/comments/e4so9b/for_all_you_programmers_bart_at_least_the_station/
< 1575334180 586641 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the farecard readers on the new MUNI trains run embedded Windows
< 1575334194 639119 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I saw one of them crashed to the desktop screen once, start menu and all
< 1575335630 614630 :LKoen!~LKoen@lstlambert-657-1-123-43.w92-154.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Quit: “It’s only logical. First you learn to talk, then you learn to think. Too bad it’s not the other way round.”
> 1575338696 670458 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:DMC14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67605&oldid=62538 5* 03DMC 5* (+98) 10
> 1575338713 330844 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:DMC14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67606&oldid=67605 5* 03DMC 5* (-7) 10
< 1575338780 610062 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric
< 1575339054 462036 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :<wib_jonas> oerjan: I found a loop <-- wait, it sees its own messages? i thought that didn't happen no matter who it sends to
< 1575339116 690605 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You do if you send to yourself.
< 1575339136 209192 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha
< 1575339142 801393 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`u 5 w
< 1575339143 800537 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :u? No such file or directory
< 1575339149 843480 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm.
< 1575339151 461420 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`h 5 w
< 1575339152 244325 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :5 w
< 1575339158 152966 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What was it?
< 1575339159 774148 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: `t hth
< 1575339172 143305 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? t
< 1575339173 521562 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :t? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1575339176 878021 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i renamed it for keyboard pressing shortness)
< 1575339177 73172 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does that stand for?
< 1575339177 101371 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? u
< 1575339178 272222 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :u? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1575339181 734634 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"top"? 
< 1575339182 48006 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"top"
< 1575339193 578225 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why is t shorter than u?
< 1575339195 686997 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`t 5 w
< 1575339198 288505 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :1/2:necessity//If necessity did not exist, it would be necessary for Taneb to invent it. \ prooftechnique//prooftechnique né NihilistDandy: He was there some time ago. Maybe he'll come back. Maybe he's a nihilist, too. (Note from the Editor: He came back, and is a nihilist.) He is inevitably on a mathematical descent. \ double dactyl//Curious spurious juvenile poetry that is supposedly tricky to write, but its obsession with sesquipedal
< 1575339200 945828 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`n
< 1575339201 900360 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :2/2:ity makes double dactyls quite gaudy and trite. \ cut elimination//The cut-elimination theorem states that any Prolog program written using the cut operator ! can be rewritten without using that operator. \ nvd//nvd is what Taneb calls himself when he wants to feel professional.
< 1575339243 864655 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(of course my muscle memory for how to use ` pretty much means i don't make use of the simpler typing, but there you go)
< 1575339256 334145 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you actually need `t for 5 w? 
< 1575339305 733075 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it's shorter if ` is a dead key, because then `u = ù but `t isn't a special combination (at least on my keyboard)
< 1575339347 522202 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ProofTechnique: hey you're here!
< 1575339366 297426 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh the note mentions
< 1575339368 349948 :ProofTechnique!sid79547@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rmvtyfjhbboovfqk PRIVMSG #esoteric :Helloerjan!
< 1575339398 24575 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION ups the ante for duplicate responding by not even reading until the end of the line
< 1575339399 678281 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Aha. But deadkeys are scow.
< 1575339408 224661 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :IMO, with a compose key, compose-`-? should compose ` onto absolutely anything, using a COMBINING GRAVE ACCENT. But it doesn't, here.
< 1575339429 569033 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Can Compose enter multiple code points?
< 1575339450 900203 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: i don't think so
< 1575339491 416260 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't really know. Though I can type a t̀ by starting with a t, then holding down ctrl-shift and typing 0300. But that's the urxvt code point entry feature.
< 1575339518 269376 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`5 echo hi
< 1575339519 829037 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :1/1:hi \ hi \ hi \ hi \ hi
< 1575339538 55921 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hum i guess that proves nothing
< 1575339539 949350 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` 5 'echo ho'  # it's christmas
< 1575339541 580344 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :1/1:ho \ ho \ ho \ ho \ ho
< 1575339543 937369 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`t t 5 t w
< 1575339546 972317 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :1/1:bleen//Bleen is the color of the ocean and the trees. \ i//I SIGNIFICAT NVMERVM VNVM \ burma//Burma: Ask Bike \ nth//nth is not that helpful \ nooooodle//Noooooodles are the invention of the Chinese. They were brought to Europe by Marco Polo, a distant ancestor of Taneb.
< 1575339593 403416 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike is not here though. at least by that nick.
< 1575339652 783245 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where did I see a Burma-Shave thing recently? Maybe a random xkcd.
< 1575339681 142407 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's one in https://xkcd.com/491 but I think it was something else instead maybe.
< 1575339958 120904 :ProofTechnique!sid79547@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rmvtyfjhbboovfqk PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if anyone's ever done a whale-themed cover of Jolene.
< 1575340337 651397 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jooooowoooowwooooowwooo...
< 1575340788 377722 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ProofTechnique: feel free to implement the obvious /hackenv/bin/whale command hth
< 1575340819 417592 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION won't due to a sudden attack of good taste
< 1575340835 612258 :ProofTechnique!sid79547@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rmvtyfjhbboovfqk PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a first
< 1575340841 875974 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :The question "Are you whales from Scotland?" pops into your mind for no discernably reason.
< 1575340959 825094 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION googles and learns new horrible joke, balancing out his good taste
< 1575340982 906764 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :happy to share
< 1575341183 866296 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :The good thing about terrible jokes is that they're easy to remember ;)
< 1575342025 892353 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :=list
< 1575342033 93582 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it's gone
< 1575342068 508372 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION saw b_jonas misspell one of his awkwardly named commands and wanted to check if the misspelled version existed
< 1575342132 534474 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :because if not, i think there was another "fascinating effect" involved in bfbot's response to that
< 1575342216 593799 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh there was a logic to the naming
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> 1575343780 413521 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07IBC14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67607&oldid=67112 5* 03Quadril-Is 5* (+99) 10
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< 1575345739 508246 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :<b_jonas> Is this too evil? <-- really really bad judgement at the very least.
< 1575345927 694384 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a horrible precedent for this channel.
< 1575345978 512353 :tromp!~tromp@2a02:a210:1585:3200:714a:40a7:730e:149 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1575346008 782139 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and don't ask me if it's even legal.
< 1575346253 509904 :tromp!~tromp@2a02:a210:1585:3200:714a:40a7:730e:149 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds
< 1575346258 635222 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :admittedly the bot probably needs to be kept off until fixed.
< 1575346346 861974 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: you could have phrased that a lot less confrontational, though.
< 1575346352 123017 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-7.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you do not try to register it, I do not have a problem with it since if they want to register it themself then they can do so and use NS GHOST to force a disconnect
< 1575346370 667334 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: except that's exactly what he did
< 1575346410 144961 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-7.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but I think that isn't what should be done. Instead just use a persistent connection, I think, is better
< 1575346460 432412 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: i am confused what problem you are thinking that solves
< 1575346487 883297 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the problem is that bfbot was online, completely abusable, and its owner wasn't.
< 1575346535 406919 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and b_jonas used its abusability to get it disconnected.
< 1575346557 461606 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :by a method which required him registering it. i'm not sure whether another would have worked.
< 1575346571 645872 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-7.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would it work to only temporarily register it?
< 1575346578 484751 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-7.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If so, then that is what should be done.
< 1575346607 149663 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh he also set nick protection to prevent it from reconnecting, i think.
< 1575346647 274429 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is the thing that cannot be done temporarily, i guess.
< 1575346698 668429 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-7.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it automatically reconnects, that isn't your fault. If it tries to rejoin the channel, then you can add a ban and then remove it later. If it does a wrong thing by a private message, filter them out on your client. Other than that, I think just leave it.
< 1575346742 108625 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: the thing is that it was so abusable that a person could use it against a third party
< 1575346763 398725 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-7.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That isn't up to you, though. Just let it; the third party can filter it out themself if they do not want it.
< 1575346797 727325 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-7.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But if you are really concerned, I suppose notify the server operator they can decide whether or not to do anything about it.
< 1575346798 817740 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, it was on #esoteric-blah which has no ops
< 1575346815 793462 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-7.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it is a channel with no ops then just it be on there.
< 1575346822 598515 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(well, it has staff so we could ask FireFly i guess)
< 1575346900 605088 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait it's freenode-staff which isn't the same thing.
< 1575346954 924337 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(just a dummy account to hold channels i think)
< 1575347074 742915 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-7.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you should not interfere other people's channel if it can be use on a channel that has no ops then it should just let be on there, and if you do not want to receive their messages then you can filter in the client side. If it causes problems with the server, then the server operator should learn about it in order to remove it.
< 1575347095 197100 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell kspalaiologos I see b_jonas may have gone a bit too far to quit your bot. it was _really_ unsecure though (which is how he could).
< 1575347095 547244 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1575347159 241660 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :trying some de-escalation
< 1575347449 816868 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-7.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If they do not want any channel operators then should not have any; unfortunately Freenode doesn't have the channel with + prefix to indicate this explicitly. They should, in order that it can easily be indicated if you want + or #
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< 1575350727 454911 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-7.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think is strange that the /proc/*/fd/* pretend to be symlinks but don't really work like symlinks. It seem like it would be like a "special link" instead?
< 1575350875 970548 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in what way don't they act like symlinks?
< 1575350907 496917 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-7.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think they can refer to deleted files and to anonymous stuff, and symlinks can't
< 1575350912 337151 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it because they may refer to anonymous things?
< 1575350913 175710 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :right
< 1575350950 294935 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :keegan@localhost:~$ ls -l /proc/self/fd | grep pipe
< 1575350950 399609 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :l-wx------ 1 keegan keegan 64 Dec  2 21:29 1 -> pipe:[6737388]
< 1575350955 853976 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wonder what that number means
< 1575350957 616358 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you distinguish between a deleted file and a link to a file ending in ' (deleted)'?
< 1575350964 760777 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lolol
< 1575350972 735892 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mean without a race condition?
< 1575350980 594007 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean at all, I think?
< 1575351003 549841 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well you could try to readlink then open
< 1575351004 406296 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you have a program that opens /foo, and you delete foo, /proc/pid/fd/n will be a link to '/foo (deleted)'
< 1575351010 340092 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I guess you may have both files
< 1575351017 721608 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :both '/foo' and '/foo (deleted)'
< 1575351023 381016 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But how can you tell whether a program just opened a file with that name?
< 1575351035 911065 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ugh, I hate how much of UNIX is stringly typed.
< 1575351042 126286 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The whole /proc thing is a mess.
< 1575351057 101967 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :does  stat /proc/$PID/fd/$N  tell you anything useful?
< 1575351057 944047 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1575351065 749767 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :/proc isn't even UNIX
< 1575351079 430981 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a linux thing intended for quick hacks in kernel development that just grew and grew
< 1575351080 425188 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, that's fair.
< 1575351085 912132 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :How did ps work back in the day?
< 1575351092 937584 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :BSD also has /proc but there's not like a standard for what's in these things
< 1575351100 371659 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it even has a linux-emulating procfs as well
< 1575351108 877588 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :There isn't a POSIX-style standard, but that's not what I care about.
< 1575351110 839352 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think by parsing /dev/mem
< 1575351112 548813 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :really.
< 1575351123 453502 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and so ps was setuid
< 1575351146 350989 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The annoying thing is that even if I port my program specifically to Linux, I have this terrible ABI.
< 1575351161 830189 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The system call ABI is pretty good. Things like ioctls are OK? And /proc is a mess.
< 1575351166 680366 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-7.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are problems with /proc, although I think it is because they treat the files in it as files and symlinks and so on even though it isn't like that. Add a new type for "special entries" and then you can avoid such problem.
< 1575351179 557987 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And that's not to mention the userspace ABI, which involves parsing things like /etc/passwd and /etc/resolv.conf which are sort of specified.
< 1575351196 925513 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ioctls are not okay
< 1575351214 254369 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ioctls are like syscalls only with minimal oversight on whether they are at all well-designed
< 1575351245 740257 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure, but at least they have an ABI at all, generally.
< 1575351260 881800 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Instead of parsing text which was mostly meant for debugging.
< 1575351284 912995 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Do you like io_uring?
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< 1575351398 221974 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's that
< 1575351406 74694 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't see anything different from stat.
< 1575351425 206977 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you can open the file and fstat it and compare the inodes or something.
< 1575351440 302467 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's the new Linux asynchronous I/O API.
< 1575351448 453781 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and maybe asynchronous everything API??
< 1575351452 192670 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok
< 1575351453 241432 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fun
< 1575351458 671761 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://lwn.net/Articles/776703/
< 1575351479 157889 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have a request and response ring buffer, and you send the kernel requests and get responses.
< 1575351501 513253 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you can send it requests fast enough, you might never have transitions to ring 0 at all.
< 1575351515 320216 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You write to your buffer in your thread and it reads in its thread on another core.
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< 1575351893 961357 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah
< 1575351902 741476 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you can also call into the kernel to block on it?
< 1575351919 294804 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is how high performance network drivers have worked forever
< 1575351933 267165 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you're doing low latency infiniband or something on linux then you don't go through the kernel at all
< 1575351942 83492 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you write into a ring buffer in the card's address space
< 1575351989 677838 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can also call into the kernel, yep.
< 1575352012 172497 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is the reasonable way for things to work, obviously.
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> 1575356720 116116 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Initialization14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67608&oldid=67603 5* 03Zzo38 5* (+372) 10
> 1575356890 683634 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Deadfish14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67609&oldid=67382 5* 03Zzo38 5* (+220) 10It is the old version of TeXnicard; make clear that it is different from the new version.
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< 1575358768 776195 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :why does c++ have copy constructors given that copy constructors are scow
< 1575358825 778368 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there any use of the std::vector copy constructor that isn't a mistake, anyway
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< 1575359674 235794 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: historical reasons
< 1575359695 914304 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the language was designed around value types / unboxed objects / whatever you want to call them
< 1575359710 542356 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but they hadn't worked out that move semantics are the way to make that work nicely
< 1575359742 321043 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :moves + an explicit clone() method seems much nicer to me
< 1575359750 462205 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :though this depends on a certain return-value optimization
< 1575359757 805026 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but everything in C++ depends on optimization for good performance
< 1575359807 635865 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are probably some cases where the copy constructor performs better
< 1575359812 649181 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least, i think there are some cases for operator=
< 1575359820 331025 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is a closely related concept
< 1575359825 510299 :tromp!~tromp@2a02:a210:1585:3200:6d04:c778:f1d5:95d6 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds
< 1575359835 61871 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but operator= has an old object to (partially) dispose of, and Foo(const Foo&) doesn't
< 1575359859 825519 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :all this is setting aside the question of whether overloadable *move* constructors are also a mistake
< 1575359868 471467 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which I think is much more debatable
< 1575359885 66382 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Man, everything about the STL is scow.
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< 1575359896 583640 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Every time I try to understand what's going on there I'm miserable.
< 1575359926 544122 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rust has no operator= overloading, if you assign into a variable whose type has a destructor, then the whole thing is destroyed before the new value is moved in
< 1575359927 541857 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the specification requires things to be low-performance. And the implemetations aren't predictable or fast.
< 1575359932 640317 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is plausibly less efficient in some cases, I guess
< 1575359945 794693 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'm not sure how often anyone writes an operator= which does such things
< 1575359973 562469 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That sounds pretty plausible. Maybe an even more plausible thing would be to do away with destructors entirely.
< 1575360000 437023 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :then how will I have RAII?
< 1575360005 129992 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :RAII is tg
< 1575360018 86823 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it actually
< 1575360036 765758 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1575360050 974275 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? raii
< 1575360052 964607 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :RAII means you deallocate in the destructor. There is no 'initializer' involved.
< 1575360068 441623 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is a profoundly useless definition
< 1575360085 381170 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :RAII means you have destructors, I think?
< 1575360085 441362 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`dowg raii
< 1575360087 332517 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :10903:2017-05-18 <shachäf> slwd raii//s,allocate in the constructor and ,, \ 5854:2015-07-21 <orën> learn RAII means you allocate in the constructor and deallocate in the destructor. There is no \'initializer\' involved. \ 5853:2015-07-21 <orën> le/rn RAII/RAII is Resource Allocation in the constructor... wait wait uh... Is uh, Initialization
< 1575360210 894112 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the important *concept* is that resources of all sorts can be modeled by objects in the language, in such a way that having a value of that object type guarantees that the resource is available with a certain set of operations on it
< 1575360267 602458 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically the idea that constructors and destructors make sense to manage not just memory but stuff like open files, mutex acquisitions, etc
< 1575360279 293042 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and this is a good fit for affine types because of course a lot of non-memory resources cannot be copied arbitrarily
< 1575360290 984830 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :as well as a lot of memory-related resources such as uniquely-owned objects
< 1575360320 604911 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But constructors aren't the important part, it's destructors. A constructor is just a function that returns a value, but destructors have special language support.
< 1575360325 351089 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :right
< 1575360341 52405 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in C++ there are some other reasons to have constructors as a language feature
< 1575360345 535099 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but Rust doesn't need them
< 1575360365 797227 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But also is this actually a good idea?
< 1575360372 606447 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :A mutex is pretty different from memory.
< 1575360387 548015 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And RAII isn't even particularly good at managing memory, I think?
< 1575360387 995197 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :*shrug*, it makes for a very convenient and safe API
< 1575360409 903114 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :In particular RAII helps you write a program with zillions of balanced mallocs and frees.
< 1575360423 871886 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I'm not sure that's a particularly good way to write a program?
< 1575360469 641834 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you do something like arena allocation, then destructors don't even make that much sense. You don't want to loop over the arena and run all the destructors of all the objects.
< 1575360527 800480 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :usually not, no
< 1575360533 892642 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so don't use arenas with types that have destructors?
< 1575360538 245673 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if you do, the right thing will still happen
< 1575360561 26781 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only if you loop over the arena, which presumably isn't even part of the arena API.
< 1575360584 421113 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since arenas are all about freeing a bunch of things all at once.
< 1575360657 275974 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :How much does RAII give you over something like Python's "with locking_lock_thingy(mutex): ..."?
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< 1575360694 440724 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It gives you the ability to move a lock_holder_object_type_t to a function, which is a way of telling it that you're holding the lock and it's responsible for freeing it.
< 1575360715 563729 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe that's good? But it seems pretty niche at best, and possibly makes for harder to follow control flow.
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< 1575360843 55050 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think passing off responsibility for a resource through moves seems pretty useful
< 1575360866 275455 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i'm kind of tired and not putting a lot of thought into coming up with compelling examples
< 1575360880 477909 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have a lot of different things on my mind today :/
< 1575360998 747588 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you give up on something meaningful by having invisible control flow happen in what seems like an assignment or value passing.
< 1575361134 864653 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :A "lock_holder_type_t holder{lock};" isn't really much of a value, it's control flow, and it's not clear that treating it as a value makes programs clearer. Maybe?
< 1575361186 744790 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway that makes sense too.
< 1575361274 114588 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-180-83.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :RAII as a concept has always annoyed me, it's weird to reuse something that is otherwise "setting things to their initial value" to mean "acquiring resources"
< 1575361328 87280 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :RAII isn't really about constructors, and is a bad name.
< 1575361345 800026 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"RAII" is also a bad name.
< 1575361454 847238 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-180-83.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, it's more about destructors anyway - a hack where you can use destructors for timing release of "other" resources (except e.g. memory that is more naturally part of an object or its value)
< 1575361455 246564 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-182.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan re sees its own messages: it doesn't see its own messages on a channel, but does see them if it explicitly sends to itself by nick
< 1575361506 540980 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: the fungus fair is on sunday
< 1575361595 515914 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: the fungot fair is on sunday
< 1575361595 615231 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: do you have the parens the important part for me.
< 1575361640 399084 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-182.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh nice, they extended the cold weather for three more days
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< 1575361691 563675 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-182.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ok, thanks for the feedback
< 1575361713 969198 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-182.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan re "even legal" => more like, may get me banned from freenode
< 1575361746 616447 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b982ad.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1575361797 841880 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-182.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38 re add a ban => doesn't help at all, you can still abuse the bot without it joining anywhere
< 1575361813 401014 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-182.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I abused it in private message and made it send to a -n channel
< 1575361846 729781 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wasn't RAII invented for exception handling anyway?
< 1575361936 562602 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-182.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc /proc/*/fd/* not symlinks => if you open them, you get an actual dup of the same file description, with a shared seek pointer
< 1575361963 206067 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What a ridiculous API.
< 1575361996 500164 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like how everything on Linux relies on /proc and /dev and /sys being mounted in particular places but that's only a convention.
< 1575362000 56596 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-182.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that it refers to a deleted file is just slightly weird compared to that
< 1575362009 564243 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: ah
< 1575362017 279563 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was wondering whether it might do something like that, as well
< 1575362051 507533 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not even particularly useful in the Plan 9 way where you can run a program with a fake /proc that you proxy calls to, which no one does.
< 1575362172 452869 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-182.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38 special entries => even if the type in lstat/fstat doesn't distinguish them, you can call statfs/fstatfs to tell whether a file is on /proc . There's even a command line interface in coreutils now, 
< 1575362194 885368 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-182.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` stat -fc "%T %n" /hackenv /proc
< 1575362195 704780 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :hostfs /hackenv \ proc /proc
< 1575362212 620729 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least Linux is getting pidfd soon, I think.
< 1575362220 214193 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That'll be something.
< 1575362255 207468 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-182.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf re parsing text which was mostly meant for debugging => everything ps prints was meant for debugging. normal programs shouldn't invoke ps and find something out automatically to do normal operations.
< 1575362282 788466 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: I'm talking about parsing text in /proc.
< 1575362372 902812 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-182.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yes, sometimes I want to make a copy of a whole vector. it typically happens with trivial copy constructors, but can happen even with nontrivial ones.
< 1575362410 546593 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-182.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's not like copying short vectors is slow.
< 1575362424 319649 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Sometimes you want to make a copy of a whole vector, but you could instead do that by calling a function to copy it.
< 1575362433 877993 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Having it as an implicit thing when you call a function or whatever is ridiculous.
< 1575362458 322379 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It requires a malloc call so it's not like it's fast.
< 1575362594 267678 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-182.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf re zillions of balanced mallocs not a particularly good way to write a program => yes, and C++ lets you have objects with trivial constructors, and it can optimize those constructor calls away to a memcpy or nothing everywhere. 
< 1575362690 65706 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The point is that the argument for RAII is that it helps you balance your mallocs and frees etc., and if that was what you wanted to do anyway, it might be pretty good, but if it's not such a good strategy in the first place, then RAII is less helpful.
< 1575362789 284504 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-182.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"At least Linux is getting pidfd soon, I think." => it already has pidfd I believe, but maybe I'm desynced with reality a bit
< 1575363067 676296 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-182.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: what do you want to do implicitly each time you call a function with your vector? do you want a compile time error? that's fine, that's what unique_ptr is for. do you want a pointer plus length without refcounting or any other mechanism to make sure it points to a valid vector? that's bad, it's a thing that's perfectly possible in the core language, but the C++ standard library messed up and 
< 1575363073 672213 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-182.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :only has std::string_view and the horribly overengineered std::span for now.
< 1575363130 675422 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :An error is OK, sure.
< 1575363145 85205 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :A copy of the struct seems OK? I guess C++ people wouldn't like that so they can ban it.
< 1575363157 448853 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :A copy of the data is ridiculous.
< 1575363164 981505 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-182.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: on the other hand, sometimes you don't need top performance, but just want to write a program easily without making stupid mistakes or thinking too much about allocation, in which case the refcounting and automatic frees are useful, and you may still want to write your program in C rather than in a language that can't detect type errors in compile time or in a lazy language like Haskell
< 1575363176 481655 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reference counting is obviously ridiculous.
< 1575363191 733711 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-182.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: there can be different types for each of those
< 1575363217 431471 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-182.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, reference counting is not obviously ridiculous. it's an overkill for MOST things that you do, needed for very few things, that I admit, but it also doesn't hurt too much in many applications
< 1575363246 546226 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Instead of reference counting you can just manage the lifetime in some reasonable way.
< 1575363254 63736 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-182.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I write a lot of throwaway short programs these days, and given that they take five seconds or even more to run, finding type errors early can help
< 1575363275 292142 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :For example, allocate at the beginning of the program and never free.
< 1575363308 662056 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-182.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :allocate at the beginning and never free => that's the easiest thing, you can do that in C++ or basically any language
< 1575363335 402735 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep.
< 1575363342 690334 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-182.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't have to use a std::vector for everything
< 1575363357 714610 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :In fact I don't want to use it for anything.
< 1575363370 299132 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-182.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't have to use it for anything in your code either
< 1575363372 941002 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Every time I look in /usr/include/c++/ I decide that the STL is scow.
< 1575363396 279838 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's all incomprehensible.
< 1575363444 199023 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, you can make types for all these things, but the language and library shouldn't be working against you by implicitly doing the wrong thing.
< 1575363481 990393 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :If your program runs for five seconds, exit_group is certainly one of the best memory management strategies.
< 1575363589 106737 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-7.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have read about pidfd in Linux. I had a similar idea, although mine was a bit different; you can add the constant PIDFD to a file descriptor of the process's directory in /proc and use the resulting number wherever a process ID is expected.
< 1575363698 673167 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-182.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: the point of pidfd is that there's a flag on fork to give you an open file descriptor to the pidfd handler, so there's no file system muckery at all
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< 1575363719 293438 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-182.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no messing around in /proc for something that doesn't need it
< 1575363723 37648 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-182.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hello ais523
< 1575363763 606038 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-182.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: file seconds or longer. at file seconds already I want the type errors early. 
< 1575363782 458788 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-182.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yes, there's a point in that
< 1575363796 944552 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-182.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't need to release memory during those programs
< 1575363825 654090 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least if you fork you don't need to worry about race conditions since you're the parent.
< 1575363827 532128 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-182.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :though I do want to destroy a few resource-holding objects that hold something other than memory, such as file handles
< 1575363831 904105 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-7.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Yes, that is good too (although I think it is for clone() and not fork(); fork() has no flags), but I think what I read is that it is the same as the directory in /proc though, so you can use that to get a file descriptor for another process.
< 1575363879 979682 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-182.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: while you're the parent, yes. but how do you tell to some other processes which process that is?
< 1575363904 652903 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-182.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :those other processes may want to send signals or whatever, even after your process (the parent) exits
< 1575363936 122061 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure, but you can open /proc/pid and send them the fd.
< 1575363945 314953 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-7.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Other than the process ID, if you have a file descriptor then could you use a SCM_RIGHTS message to transmit it to other processes?
< 1575364027 400753 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-182.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: yes, or have other children inherit it
< 1575364052 475882 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-7.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Yes, if you are spawning them yourself
< 1575364112 364983 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-7.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyways, what the difference is in what I read they were doing in Linux and what my own idea was, is that my own way doesn't have a separate system call for sending a signal to or otherwise deal with other processes by the file descriptor instead of process ID; you just add together PIDFD and the file descriptor, to make a number usable where a process ID is expected.
< 1575364150 781079 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-182.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :definitely SCM_RIGHTS, unless you're golfing for IOCCC, in which case passing file descriptors with sprintf(name, "/proc/%d/self/%d", parentpid, parent_pidfd); pidfd = open(name, 2, 0); is easier.
< 1575364206 103935 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-182.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: oh yeah, you mentioned that. but I find that a somewhat dangerous idea, putting the flag in the process id argument itself rather than into separate flags
< 1575364239 239969 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-182.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have a definite example for why that's a bad idea, I just have the feeling that it could cause weird bugs, including possibly security bugs, in some programs
< 1575364297 568167 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-7.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought of that, and that is why the largest valid process ID has to be less than PIDFD-1.
< 1575364337 932960 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-7.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Although there might be other things I have not thought of, but as far as I know, I cannot think of them)
< 1575364360 818203 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ugh. Can all y'all just scrap half of Unix and make a good system call API?
< 1575364464 582713 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-7.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I had idea of Plan10 which is sort of like that, although you have to scrap less than half of Unix because some things required for compatibility with Unix; the rest can be implemented in user libraries so need not being system calls (some of them would use new Plan10 system calls which are not Unix system calls, in order to emulate them).
< 1575364481 415116 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: What if I don't want compatibility with Unix?
< 1575364493 133403 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or at best I want it only for an emulation layer like WSL.
< 1575364526 292628 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: have you seen WASI? you probably need more system calls than that for a full OS, but it seems to have the general right attitude
< 1575364555 930481 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Well, I want it to be the actual OS interface, for actual native code, and without a web browser or some ridiculous thing running in between.
< 1575364565 69945 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-7.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some things would only be compatible if things are set up to do such thing anyways; if your program exports a function called "plan10main" then those things are not automatically set up.
< 1575364571 354658 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The goal is simplifying things, not adding layer and layers of wrappers.
< 1575364576 799750 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But maybe the API itself is good?
< 1575364611 316045 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-7.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(If your program doesn't include "plan10main", then the one in the library is used, which sets up Unix compatibility and then calls main.)
< 1575364644 673967 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-7.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Use a library without Unix compatibility if you do not want it though, I suppose, is also possible.
< 1575364648 230608 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems likely that all syscalls should go through something like io_uring, since how often do you want to do a ring transition for each one separately?
< 1575364791 790873 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The actual WASI API might be reasonable? What's better about it than Linux?
< 1575364849 56567 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-7.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what is io_uring
< 1575364872 441854 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: https://kernel.dk/io_uring.pdf
< 1575364888 29024 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-182.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I want compatibility with a lot of existing programs that I use and I don't want to rewrite, so I use Linux. (and Windows at work.)
< 1575364893 825507 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That article maybe isn't the best introduction.
< 1575364963 101785 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-182.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but sure, experiment with research OSes if you want, someone has to do it so that 30 years from now, we have an infrastructure that's only 30 years obsolete, not 50 years obsolete
< 1575364993 631002 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-7.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: It is why my idea of Plan10 has the compatibility mode (much of it is implemented in user libraries, but some stuff would be part of the kernel).
< 1575365080 339095 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-182.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: will you want a new main OS interface every 15 years, and will you have three different compatibility layers 30 years from now when you add the fourth one?
< 1575365098 122371 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-182.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :with existing large programs using all of them mixed and matched through libraries obviously
< 1575365113 18996 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-182.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :back in an hour
< 1575365114 248797 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-182.catv.broadband.hu QUIT :Quit: leaving
< 1575365117 73186 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Permit programs to use only one of the interfaces.
< 1575365133 712936 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just like Windows supported either Win32 or POSIX, but not both at once.
< 1575365275 881966 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-7.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: If the author of a program wishes to use multiple libraries that is up to the author of those programs. I should think the kernel itself would not have three different compatibility layers and new main OS interfaces, if it is designed properly.
< 1575365472 373636 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I don't think WASI has a mandatory dependency on WebAssembly, although obviously it was designed for that use
< 1575365495 796085 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, WebAssembly doesn't require a browser, it's just a bytecode language that can have small non-browser-dependent interpreters written for it (and a few of those exist already)
< 1575365586 720316 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-7.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Of course, Unix programs which export a symbol called "plan10main" will not work when compiled for Plan10, but that is unavoidable. If you install an emulator then you might even be able to run the programs directly though (rather than recompiling them for Plan10), which would work; however, the emulators are not part of the core system, but just a feature of the core system to allow the possibility to install emulators.)
< 1575365618 851572 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: why not use a character in the symbol name that isn't valid in a UNIX program?
< 1575365620 219471 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-7.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I know of that, and I wanted to see if there is a library to execute WebAssembly programs from a native C program.
< 1575365645 72615 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I'm not sure whether any of the existing interpreters work as a library, even if none do it should be easy to adapt them though
< 1575365682 878413 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-7.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Because the C compiler will not accept it. Anyways, it is the C library which causes the program to call main() when it starts anyways, I think?
< 1575365701 454623 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-7.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(So the kernel doesn't need to care what it is called.)
< 1575365732 886789 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :won't the C compiler need to be modified anyway to produce programs for a new OS?
< 1575365766 331038 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yes, in most implementations, main is called by an object file in the standard library, normally called something like crt0.o
< 1575365774 979110 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :IIRC it isn't in libc itself, but a separate standard library
< 1575365812 192080 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-7.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably, but you will not need to modify the files which change how the program is parsed, I should think.
< 1575365953 781365 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :out of interest, why do you want a different main method? so you can give it different parameters?
< 1575365966 603017 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: x
< 1575365977 574258 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :…now I'm wondering whether C++ object files mangle the name of "main" or not
< 1575366015 388003 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-7.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is one of it, yes (there are a few additional parameters), but also for compatibility with UNIX.
< 1575366068 835746 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, most C implementations let you give a function too many parameters without issue
< 1575366086 942073 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's one of the reasons why caller-cleans is a more common calling convention than callee-cleans
< 1575366093 10121 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(IMO callee-cleans is much better for a number of reasons)
< 1575366117 282697 :Hooloovo0!Hooloovoo@sorunome.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds
< 1575366146 989457 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so why not use the same entry point for plan10 programs and posix programs?
< 1575366174 526044 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-7.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because the default settings for Plan10 are not compatible with POSIX.
< 1575366234 370156 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-7.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The default implementation of plan10main sets up some stuff required for POSIX compatibility and then calls main.)
< 1575366239 783048 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what sort of settings are these? things like locale?
< 1575366318 501953 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-7.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No; stuff such as that in POSIX, you will receive a SIGPIPE signal which will terminate the process for writing to any broken pipe, and so on
< 1575366346 827639 :Hooloovo0!Hooloovoo@sorunome.de JOIN :#esoteric
< 1575366411 968731 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-7.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Sometimes that behaviour with SIGPIPE is wanted, but often only for file descriptor 1. So if you are not using the POSIX compatibility then your program can enable SIGPIPE for file descriptor 1 only, in that case.)
< 1575366455 937885 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I see, for file descriptors inherited from the parent process there's no easy chance to configure that
< 1575366469 792619 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(for file descriptors opened by the program itself, it would make sense for the API that opens it to specify how you wanted signals to be configured)
< 1575366477 688228 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are file descriptors a good system?
< 1575366480 782037 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can see an argument for file descriptors 1 and 2
< 1575366510 961874 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's kind of nice how you can have something like a perf_event_open fd, and either read() or mmap() it, just like anything else.
< 1575366516 473765 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: you need /something/ to be able to refer to an open file, and having an "open/closed" status in files rather than being stateless seems to be the right option because it makes it much easier to reason about potential race conditions
< 1575366518 108397 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rather than a bunch of special-case system calls.
< 1575366520 511046 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-7.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Yes, that makes sense. The POSIX compatibility API (which is a user library function) would call the system call and tell it to enable SIGPIPE.
< 1575366530 542398 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But sometimes people try too hard to fit things into that API.
< 1575366531 154027 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :WASI came up with an improvement, though, where file descriptors are random numbers rather than being sequential
< 1575366859 573795 :atriq!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:aaaa:0:aaaa:0 NICK :Taneb
< 1575366918 745887 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-7.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(possibly some setting in the C library which the default plan10main would set up, or that somehow checks whether or not plan10main has been overridden if that is possible)
< 1575367150 41233 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sequential file descriptors are clearly scow.
< 1575367177 122707 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Windows has HANDLEs, which I guess are pretty similar.
< 1575367183 892638 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(To random descriptors.)
< 1575367237 219213 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess they're not the same for various reasons.
< 1575367411 463161 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-180-83.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I consider HANDLEs and file descriptors both just handles for kernel objects
< 1575367430 551757 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-180-83.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(windows has some unrelated things that are typed HANDLE but aren't actually kernel objects though)
< 1575367548 341410 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-180-83.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. GDI handles are in a different namespace, and some are just pointers for things that pretend to be or once were kernel features but are implemented in user space
< 1575367619 730206 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It probably makes sense to be able to have "system calls" implemented in userspace, as Windows does.
< 1575367634 281611 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Though maybe that's not really compatible with the ring buffer thing I was talking about before?)
< 1575367649 625908 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-180-83.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a good way to give you freedom on the kernel side to change your system calls
< 1575367662 532230 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-7.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If the ABI and ISA fields in the ELF header are incorrect, then the kernel should see if an emulator for the specified ABI/ISA is loaded (the emulator is just a kernel module, and the core system does not include any emulators), and if there isn't one then trying to execute that file is an error.
< 1575367715 228121 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm a little skeptical that things like POSIX are particularly good.
< 1575367753 732931 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd rather have minimal and stable OS ABIs and then maybe a library on top that things can link to if they want to be portable.
< 1575367809 532151 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-7.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do think there are some problems with POSIX, and also some problems with Windows, and also other systems.
< 1575367905 243763 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-7.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wikipedia says that the ABI field in the ELF header "is often set to 0 regardless of the target platform". Unless the program is for System V, such files will have to be corrected in order to run on Plan10.
< 1575367935 81936 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Is Plan10 some sort of banana pun?
< 1575367952 860446 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-7.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(This correction can be made without recompiling the program; you only have to change one byte in the executable file.)
< 1575367970 187931 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-7.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: That is not the intention; the name is similar to Plan9 but is different.
< 1575368689 16852 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1575368778 941871 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: programs only use one interfaces => then all large programs will stick to the older interface because that's what the libraries use. just like everyone still uses gtk+ version 2 rather than the incompatible version 3, but in a larger scale. 
< 1575368796 539867 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd prefer to keep most of the unix api, because most of it is sane, and just improve the few parts that are bad.
< 1575368807 249124 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I admit I was a bit too sarcastic about compatibility
< 1575368847 891009 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you can mix windows API with POSIX all the time on windows, although it's ugly because the POSIX API really doesn't match how windows works, and you need some conversion functions, but I still do it sometimes
< 1575368899 977377 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wib_jonas: You can port programs to new interfaces just like you can port them to new OSes.
< 1575368953 508231 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :If programs are just using the OS ABI via libraries, it's even easier to port, because you can just port the libraries (like libc and SDL).
< 1575368966 394981 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: main isn't mangled, but the C++ compiler treats in somewhat special way at compile time, and then the linker treats it specially at link time
< 1575369080 21225 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in particular, on most platforms the compiler emits main as an extern "C" function, even if you didn't explicitly define it as such, and it has an implicit return 0, and IIRC there was one or two more things special about it, plus the linker inserts constructors and destructors to it somehow
< 1575369112 601460 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or so I believe, but I'm not quite sure about this 
< 1575369246 647477 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: no, windows HANDLEs are mostly sequential numbers too. they're not guaranteed to be sequential, unlike on unix, but they mostly are.
< 1575369275 571459 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or so I believe, but again, I'm not sure in this
< 1575369304 655350 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aren't HANDLEs generally opaque?
< 1575369364 886555 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: opaque, yes. opaque numbers that are typically sequential, but the OS gets to decide that, and may give you any numbers it if it feels like.
< 1575369373 340941 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought they were sometimes pointers or other things.
< 1575369690 54263 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wib_jonas: IIRC in C++ main isn't allowed to be recursive (although in C it is)
< 1575369712 903931 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is a weird limitation because it should be easy just to imply a wrapper around it in the compiler if the compiler couldn't handle a recursive main
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< 1575370856 839440 :wib_jonas96!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 NICK :wib_jonas
< 1575371900 917935 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.12.206.dynamic.ufanet.ru JOIN :#esoteric
< 1575372753 969362 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? dc
< 1575372755 148397 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :dc is short for "dump core". (try it out yourself: dc -e '[')
< 1575372760 377374 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` dc -e '['
< 1575372761 220479 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1575372787 405853 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want a program to SEGV, any options?
< 1575372938 765386 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`perl -ekill 11,$$
< 1575372939 476720 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1575372953 193358 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` perl '-ekill 11,$$'; echo $?
< 1575372953 956906 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: line 1:    54 Segmentation fault      perl '-ekill 11,$$' \ 139
< 1575372967 354035 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` perl '-eunpack"p",0'; echo $?
< 1575372970 656818 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :0
< 1575373051 202077 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a fake SEGV.
< 1575373196 677358 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`! c return *(int *)0;
< 1575373199 488622 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/interps/gcccomp/gcccomp: line 53:    68 Segmentation fault      /tmp/compiled.$$
< 1575373212 548445 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't get much more real SEGV than that
< 1575373248 997147 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, that "$$" is interesting, looks like there was an attempt to swap in the PID, but it still works anyway due to the nature of /tmp
< 1575373291 160624 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wanted to test the program "catchsegv" that I just found out about.
< 1575373309 812681 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But now I know how it works so I'm less curious.
< 1575373393 599348 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It uses LD_PRELOAD to set up a signal handler.)
< 1575373435 570030 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, that reminds me
< 1575373444 732727 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` rm -v /hackenv/bin/culprits-ng
< 1575373452 301206 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :removed '/hackenv/bin/culprits-ng'
< 1575373459 937921 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I created that long ago, but I don't use it
< 1575373467 133365 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`before
< 1575373469 824430 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/culprits-ng//#!/bin/sh \ exec hg log -l 512 --template "{desc}\0" -- "$@" | perl -0ne '/^<([^>]*)>/ and print"$1 "'
< 1575373599 11296 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I almost never want to look up just the users who modified a file, without other parts of the revision log
< 1575373850 589389 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`culprits ../bin/culprits-ng
< 1575373852 788165 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :wib_jonäs oerjän oerjän b_jonäs b_jonäs b_jonäs b_jonäs b_jonäs
< 1575373996 278264 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not 100% sure how culprits-ng differed from the regular one, other than the limit, no scowrevs, and no no-ping.
< 1575374146 386150 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :...scowrevs?
< 1575374161 53363 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hg log -l 512 --template "{desc}\0" -- ../bin/culprits-ng | perl -0ne '/^<([^>]*)>/ and print"$1 "'
< 1575374167 244387 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie b_jonas b_jonas b_jonas b_jonas
< 1575374183 245604 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hg log --removed -l 512 --template "{desc}\0" -- ../bin/culprits-ng | perl -0ne '/^<([^>]*)>/ and print"$1 "'
< 1575374184 921466 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cat $(which culprits)
< 1575374185 36248 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :wib_jonas oerjan oerjan fizzie jeffl35 fizzie evilipse b_jonas b_jonas b_jonas b_jonas b_jonas
< 1575374185 728615 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :hoag "$@" | awk '{print substr($1,2,length($1)-2)}' | xargs -d'\n'
< 1575374210 623311 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: no noping, no scowrevs, and different implementation.
< 1575374232 418537 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :saner implementation, I hope
< 1575374281 877734 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does it have to do with sanity?
< 1575374291 968799 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It looks like a golfed Perl implementation.
< 1575374316 530683 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: scowrevs is a list of revisions in our repository that most of the fancy commands hide by default, though you still see them with an explicit hg
< 1575374328 763718 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I mean they hide their diffs, so you don't see the same change in the next revision either
< 1575374367 397351 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` cat /hackenv/bin/hlnp
< 1575374368 240251 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :scowrevs="$(/usr/bin/paste -sd'|' /hackenv/share/scowrevs)"; hg log -r "tip:0 & ! ($scowrevs)" "$@" | sed 's/\(\(^\| \)[<Itb][^ ]*\)\([^ ][^ ]\)/\1̈\3/'
< 1575374376 893398 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat /hackenv/share/scowrevs
< 1575374377 624542 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :121:122 \ 194:196 \ 770:771 \ 1000:1001 \ 1493:1497 \ 2112:2114 \ 3342:3343 \ 4530:4531 \ 5136:5137 \ 5642:5643 \ 5894:5897 \ 8669:8678 \ 9070:9071 \ 9074:9075
< 1575374403 352621 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :wib_jonas: ah
< 1575374412 453005 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not named by me, I have to say.
< 1575374442 241543 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm mildly surprised
< 1575374518 318107 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds
< 1575374573 648205 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: sorry, it's not a saner implementation anymore, but it was back then:
< 1575374574 385368 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` hg cat -r 7010 /hackenv/bin/culprits
< 1575374575 741600 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :hg log --removed "$1" | grep summary: | awk '{print substr($2,2,length($2)-2)}' | sed "s/.$/\x0F&/" | xargs
< 1575374579 606928 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was saner than that one ^
< 1575375194 325651 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1575376977 402249 :tromp!~tromp@2a02:a210:1585:3200:f03d:9c15:faa0:1faf QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1575377259 336711 :tromp!~tromp@2a02:a210:1585:3200:f03d:9c15:faa0:1faf JOIN :#esoteric
< 1575380018 870551 :APic!apic@apic.name QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds
< 1575380134 832403 :APic!apic@apic.name JOIN :#esoteric
< 1575381130 17560 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-cobhaicbrfzfjkdr JOIN :#esoteric
< 1575383935 985338 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode JOIN :#esoteric
< 1575384973 353111 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, how do you pronounce the "g" in "Malbolge"? like "G" in "GIF", or like "g" in "gauge"?
< 1575384973 503571 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :wib_jonas: no without using variables? like, mail me the .dbm and .log are 1.7m by now *8) 2)
< 1575385289 277832 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wib_jonas: Those are both terrible examples.
< 1575385316 629398 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wib_jonas: (I pronounced "GIF" wrong for a long time. And "gauge" has two different 'g's.)
< 1575385331 53388 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9960:35:b981:f674:dfb0:ac41 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ysaclist
< 1575385333 399260 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :ysaclist: boily shachaf
< 1575385339 245615 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9960:35:b981:f674:dfb0:ac41 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpfaCiBtmOc one hundo
< 1575385372 283397 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: yes, they are
< 1575385375 389141 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wib_jonas: "It's pronounced JIF, not GIF."
< 1575385400 801061 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wib_jonas: Anyway, personally I'm going with 'rage', not 'game'. But I don't know.
< 1575385434 704019 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wib_jonas: Oh maybe that was intentional. Hmm mm. If so, sorry.
< 1575385477 581627 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Though, honestly, no *very* sorry.)
< 1575385500 993314 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Do you like contrition?
< 1575385501 208339 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: dlobron annotated 16311 with " walk-case-exp" at http://paste.lisp.org/ display/ fnord for all primitive operations doesn't seem like a call/ ret pair would be really nice to have
< 1575385533 623204 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll take that as a "no".
< 1575385558 516002 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, how do you pronounce "Chesapeake"?
< 1575385558 625190 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :wib_jonas: what's the matter with kawa? no tco? total cost whatwhat? that's too bad
< 1575385896 959267 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: total cost? NB "Chesapeake", not "cheapsake".\
< 1575385897 36290 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :wib_jonas: was cale any help last night? all isps seemed to be
< 1575386070 372286 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are two ways to pronounce gif: a sane one and a smartass one
< 1575386199 379127 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9960:35:b981:f674:dfb0:ac41 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wha
< 1575386247 554957 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale: one hundo seems p. low for an undo
< 1575386516 967213 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds
> 1575386814 697414 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Code is eso14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=67610 5* 03DmilkaSTD 5* (+148) 10Created page with "This language is inspired on the game "Baba is you". It is not finished, im making it. I made this page to be the first in make a language like this"
< 1575387189 826938 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, how is the g in fungot pronounced? depending on whether you interpret it as part of "got" or es "funge", it would be different
< 1575387190 4811 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: i've just written a version of all of the ten thousand pastes up there. what else can i set the escape proc to a global variable
< 1575387471 115141 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: I pronounce the g in "fungot" like the g in "fungi"
< 1575387471 377844 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: all right. my wife got her masters at tyler school of art, too? :d hehe no :) i was wondering whether sxpath could be used, how type errors would be annoying with forced fnord.
< 1575387484 514224 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm guessing this is ^style irc?
< 1575387486 114323 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style
< 1575387486 121511 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc* iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack oots pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp ukparl youtube
< 1575387488 149110 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1575387533 831471 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i do that too, but you could make a point of it coming from befunge
< 1575387555 40714 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose, if you pronounce gif as jif, you should pronounce fungot as funjot
< 1575387555 150031 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: http://youtube.com/ fnord richard dawkins " what if you're reading this
< 1575387578 510051 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do it as in "got".
< 1575387586 142050 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: don't most Befunge impls have names which are a pun on "fungi"?
< 1575387609 196151 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(even though the back-derived etymology is based on "fungible", and the actual etymology was based purely on spelling)
< 1575387638 839314 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"(UK, US) enPR: fŭnʹjī, fŭngʹgī, IPA(key): /ˈfʌn.dʒaɪ/, /ˈfʌŋ.ɡaɪ/, /ˈfʌŋ.ɡiː/, /ˈfʌn.dʒiː/" that's a lotta pronunciations.
< 1575387714 532562 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't even realise that "fungi" allowed "g"=/dʒ/
< 1575387729 35347 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think I've ever heard that pronunciation
< 1575387872 334040 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pronounciation in english is a mess
< 1575388169 976620 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Quit: sorry for my connection
< 1575388183 290241 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1575388506 437460 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1575388568 205610 :Soni!~quassel@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this esoteric? https://bpaste.net/show/6E66I
< 1575388664 371216 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a DSL, and I don't think we have a consensus on whether DSLs are esoteric
< 1575388671 187947 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're probably esoteric if used for an unintended purpose
< 1575388677 729874 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that thing TC when operating on fixed input, for example?
< 1575389417 494792 :Soni!~quassel@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no
< 1575389445 819139 :Soni!~quassel@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did think about making it so, but, no
< 1575389673 170388 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, "bone"?
< 1575390536 439257 :Soni!~quassel@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: "bone"s are structural components of humans
< 1575390571 153787 :Soni!~quassel@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :originally this was meant to have no validation features, i.e. it wasn't supposed to support use-cases best served by a schema
< 1575390583 149051 :Soni!~quassel@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I guess I ended up adding those in anyway
< 1575390605 458042 :Soni!~quassel@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and schemas are basically structural definitions
< 1575390615 953400 :Soni!~quassel@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, boneless
> 1575391296 765654 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Esomachine14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67611&oldid=66926 5* 03Dart 5* (-236) 10Formatting and terminology
< 1575391324 591132 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, fungi and fungot are pronounced differently?
< 1575391324 763193 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :wib_jonas: but any reasonably complex caching system that doesn't act dumbly prolly is too stupid to load them when fnord tcpdump, and only insane people are allowed to participate.
< 1575391335 770541 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, fungi and befunge are pronounced differently?
< 1575391391 151604 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh heck this is a mess indeedd
< 1575391419 391305 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"fungi" and "fungible" are (potentially) pronounced differently, and I think "Befunge" follows the latter usually.
< 1575391428 360392 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently "fungi" is pronounced both ways
< 1575391492 9218 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The Betty compiler, for example, treats every possible straight line of instructions as a subprogram, and if a 'p' instruction alters that subprogram, that subprogram is recompiled." -- hence the name "straight-line code"
< 1575391554 858762 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Four ways (according to wiktionary), though only two relate to the kind of 'g'. /ɡ/ vs. /dʒ/ and /aɪ/ vs. /iː/.
< 1575391770 505740 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I looked at the Befunge page in hopes of a pronunciation guide but there doesn't seem to be one.)
< 1575391908 614851 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh great, "fungi" has two pronunciations?
< 1575391943 646507 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's confusing.
> 1575391994 811733 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Esomachine14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=67612 5* 03Dart 5* (+619) 10Created page with "==Inconsistencies== Here's the example of truth machine:  INDEX_STATE[1, false]  HANDS_EXPECT[]  INDEX_SET[1, HANDS]  OUTPUT[1]  HANDS_JUMP[48, 7]  HANDS_JUMP[49, 2]  INDEX_ST..."
< 1575392004 218409 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, 4, only 2 regarding the g
> 1575392021 188954 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Esomachine14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67613&oldid=67612 5* 03Dart 5* (+17) 10/* Inconsistencies */
> 1575392051 569381 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Esomachine14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67614&oldid=67613 5* 03Dart 5* (+77) 10/* Inconsistencies */
< 1575392236 80202 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1575393064 424598 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1575393126 380834 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds
< 1575393146 190317 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 NICK :Lord_of_Life
< 1575393822 612648 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1575394284 559925 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-cobhaicbrfzfjkdr QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity
< 1575397257 96336 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-xlgyhklsybgdlvsa QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds
< 1575397264 33398 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1575397871 575759 :LKoen!~LKoen@lstlambert-657-1-122-23.w92-154.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric
< 1575397902 983425 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-58.catv.broadband.hu JOIN :#esoteric
< 1575398012 986349 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-58.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kspalaiologos: sorry, it may have been a bit rude to take over your bot
< 1575398023 927592 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what?
< 1575398031 974995 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-58.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :bfbot. it's your bot, isn't it?
< 1575398042 234496 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1575398045 440912 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wrote it in bash tho lol
< 1575398053 682107 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I HAVE to check the logs
< 1575398062 595908 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because I'm really curious how have you done that
< 1575398063 430419 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :=help
< 1575398066 820528 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah
< 1575398074 898396 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not mad at all tbh
< 1575398087 151063 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if it had a few "holes" it wouldn't be bad if it was left anyway
< 1575398090 855306 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it's another users account
< 1575398095 912355 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and no harm is done to my vps
< 1575398105 754429 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because I knew there is going to be a severe security hole in this bot
< 1575398108 829131 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-58.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kspalaiologos: the bot parses irc lines wrong. it looks like if you say "PRIVMSG" inside a message, even if it's not the second word of the irc line, it thinks that that's the command word and the next word is the target nick/channel
< 1575398128 134947 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :unn
< 1575398129 976611 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fine
< 1575398131 325958 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-58.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if you say ":=" inside a message, it thinks that's the start of the message, even if it's not at the start of the fourth word of the irc line
< 1575398138 705889 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-58.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :both of those are serious security bugs
< 1575398148 397859 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so how did you take it down
< 1575398148 813425 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-lyugeyrlftlhocsb JOIN :#esoteric
< 1575398153 367211 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought there was a RCE
< 1575398166 265961 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would be way more interesting with an RCE in
< 1575398169 272950 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-58.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I asked it to send a message to register his nickname bfbot for my account
< 1575398184 732632 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and?
< 1575398187 417172 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-58.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :then I told nickserv that bfbot is my nick and the bot isn't allowed to use it
< 1575398189 589891 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-58.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and ghosted it
< 1575398194 464331 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, smart
< 1575398204 5622 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha
< 1575398214 408039 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-58.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a third bug in the bot which I didn't use for this, and which is less important, but it's still nasty enough that you should fix:
< 1575398232 712355 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :/ thanks a lot for formalizing this though
< 1575398236 24820 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-58.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :if the message ends in a backslash, it seems like the bot thinks that the next irc line is a continuation of that message
< 1575398243 448335 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm curious why := is implemented as a newline
< 1575398244 751885 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no clue really
< 1575398251 749269 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas, NO WAY XD
< 1575398258 139193 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm done with bash
< 1575398282 964157 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is this behaviour with := occuring though
< 1575398300 191747 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I may send you the source code for further review as I fix the bugs
< 1575398310 524976 :kritixilithos!~kritixili@gateway/tor-sasl/kritixilithos JOIN :#esoteric
< 1575398317 895710 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-58.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :to make it clear, an irc message that the bot reads from the server looks like this: "b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-58.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :=echo hello\r\n"
< 1575398324 890377 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-58.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no wait
< 1575398330 275311 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-58.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric : looks like this: ":b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-58.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :=echo hello\r\n"
< 1575398340 526691 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, yes
< 1575398343 63676 :kritixilithos!~kritixili@gateway/tor-sasl/kritixilithos PRIVMSG #esoteric :kspalaiologos: I thought the bot was written in seed :/
< 1575398344 792591 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need to match \r\n aswell
< 1575398349 603989 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-58.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has words separated by colons. the first word is always the source, the second is the command
< 1575398355 917091 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kritixilithos, because in practice, it is
< 1575398364 196124 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a very long system() befunge command
< 1575398365 915780 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-58.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :after that, there can be any number of arguments, and the last argument will start with a colon and can contain spaces inside
< 1575398380 585598 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's amazing
< 1575398383 505814 :kritixilithos!~kritixili@gateway/tor-sasl/kritixilithos PRIVMSG #esoteric :then how does bash play into this?
< 1575398391 99376 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-58.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :note that the channel name may contain colons, it's only colons at the start of a word that mark the final argument
< 1575398391 548188 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ well, because the bot is programmed in bash
< 1575398400 453809 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then I put it inside a befunge's "system"
< 1575398406 241798 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and ran it over with my generator
< 1575398413 495725 :kritixilithos!~kritixili@gateway/tor-sasl/kritixilithos PRIVMSG #esoteric :the befunge system call calls the bash program?
< 1575398417 461853 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-58.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you have to find the first that starts with a colon, not counting the very first word, which always starts with a colon in a message from a server 
< 1575398418 131709 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope
< 1575398433 909784 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas, I'll fix this
< 1575398435 897260 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :really
< 1575398444 271166 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-58.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :for PRIVMSG in a message the server sends you, that will always be the fourth word
< 1575398447 344269 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'm a tiny bit occupied though
< 1575398451 868101 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope its not the case
< 1575398457 369508 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is simpler workaround
< 1575398478 504782 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the "thing" matching the regex is actually not matching a newline at the end
< 1575398493 312674 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just need to add [\r\n]+ at the end of regex and I'm done with this bug
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< 1575398519 580520 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but this is exploitable too
< 1575398520 452191 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :though
< 1575398525 253794 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me check something
< 1575398540 842080 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :does both 0xA and 0xC start a newline in IRC?
< 1575398558 2050 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-58.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kspalaiologos: the server always sends you \r\n , which are the bytes 0xD then 0xA
< 1575398558 486373 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's only CRLF or LF, or it can be CR only too
< 1575398566 865795 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-58.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you send a message to the server, then \n is enough
< 1575398572 485834 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes yes
< 1575398573 177484 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fine
< 1575398576 194809 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks
< 1575398585 34894 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if user sends a single CR though?
< 1575398590 369831 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :does this issue a break or not
< 1575398592 499050 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-58.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know
< 1575398605 633905 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll just go safe with it
< 1575398612 285640 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do I bring the bot back lol though
< 1575398613 577746 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-58.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the server is nice, there are a lot of things that it allows clients to send but that it will never send to clients
< 1575398616 32661 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as I finish working on it
< 1575398638 315890 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-58.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :such as PRIVMSG or NOTICE with multiple channel/nick targets, or KICK with multiple nick targets, or MODE with more than four modes
< 1575398661 733652 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-58.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or a line feed without a carriage return, or an empty line, or an invalid command, or a command or nick or channel in a case that isn't the canonical one
< 1575398670 366140 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-58.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and more
< 1575398680 342151 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-58.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :this makes it easy to write a client, but harder to write a good irc server
< 1575398696 133588 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-58.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, that's only part of the reason, the other reason is that the server has to manage multiple connections, including with other irc servers
< 1575398699 114764 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-58.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but still
< 1575398714 734525 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-58.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you bring the bot back => no idea, kill then restart your program or something
< 1575398870 193703 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-58.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems that freenode irc interprets a cr as a line break too if you send one, but I wouldn't rely on this, and I haven't tested any other networks
> 1575398927 348581 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Fpulse14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67615&oldid=49958 5* 03Dart 5* (+0) 10Changed redirect target from [[Fpulse/]] to [[F-PULSE]]
< 1575398970 30564 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-58.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kspalaiologos: anyway, before I took the bot down, I made it loop by sending a message that it misparsed
< 1575398999 356124 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha
< 1575399000 113072 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-58.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was after that that I decided it was buggy enough that I can just have the irc server eject it
< 1575399032 24362 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll write it all over again
< 1575399041 880362 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and burn the code printouts to get rid of it for real
< 1575399161 5779 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-58.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd like to defend bash though. some people use bash and write less buggy programs in it. I'm not advertising that, there are better programming languages than bash, just saying.
< 1575399188 462676 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-58.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and some people write worse programs in perl or php, ones that open huge holes of sql injections for no reasons
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< 1575399257 172974 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-58.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, publishing the source code of the bot may help, because it may let the regulars find or debug bugs more quickly. without them, it took days until someone (perhaps kritixilithos) to find the bug with the backslash at the end of the line
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< 1575400892 516753 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :<shachaf> is there any use of the std::vector copy constructor that isn't a mistake, anyway ← I don't know what it actually does, but I'm guessing from the discussion that it actually moves the vector contents and leaves the original vector empty?
< 1575400911 289788 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-58.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: no
< 1575400946 702671 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-58.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the copy contructor of std::vector (in C++) copies the contents of the vector, which implies copying each element of the vector 
< 1575400959 516731 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, that's what I'd expect it to do
< 1575400968 374635 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-58.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the move constructor moves the vector contents by updating pointers in the headers, and leaves the original one empty
< 1575400993 278886 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right, because in C++ a moved-out-of object can still be referenced
< 1575401004 845252 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(C++ "move" corresponds to Rust "take" rather than Rust "move")
< 1575401037 461672 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :re the RAII discussion, I think the name comes from the fact that there's no user-observable time during which the object is allocated but uninitialised
< 1575401052 522348 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-58.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yes, but in case of most types like an std::vector it's easy, because the moved out one will just have a 0 size and a null pointer in the header. the hard case is std::list, which has to heap allocate to move out of itself with the move constructor.
< 1575401053 838160 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in C you often deal with a four-state transition, allocate/initialise/deinitialise/deallocate
< 1575401060 129755 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and RAII says you merge the first two and last two
< 1575401096 886866 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, now I have to ask what the difference between a list and a vector is
< 1575401101 915944 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the list linked? because that's ridiculous
< 1575401106 67252 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-58.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :C++ std::list is a doubly linked list
< 1575401158 487895 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my current belief about linked lists is "it doesn't make sense to have an abstraction for linked lists, in all the cases where they're actually useful you need to be doing something horrifically low-level with their internals"
< 1575401163 223303 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-58.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's something you very rarely need, and it's a pity that it's in the C++ standard library with such a simple name, because it gets lots of clueless people use it when they shouldn't
< 1575401176 845499 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-58.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yes, that's close to true
< 1575401210 584546 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-58.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :however, even if you don't have the general std::list, you can meet one of those low-level things where you define a more specialized object whose copy constructor has to heap-allocate
< 1575401241 736432 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-58.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is why they want to solve the general problem, not really for what std::list should do, but how to handle objects like that
< 1575401245 247162 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-58.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yes, it's a rare case
< 1575401403 893668 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-58.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the more important tricky case is that of std::string (and cv::Vector from the Opencv library), which have pointers to themselves, and so have to do something nontrivial when they're swapped or move-assigned or move-constructed, though the move construction can't raise an exception unlike with std::list
< 1575401525 247317 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rust's solution to that apparently has corner cases where it's unsound, I hope they come up with a good fix soon
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< 1575402551 402360 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-58.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, right. if I want set -e in an interactive shell, as opposed to a HackEso command, I should do it in a parenthisized subshell.
< 1575402591 410642 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-58.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or in a shell script running in a subshell obviously
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< 1575426147 323039 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :<shachaf> "RAII" is also a bad name. <-- Ra II would be a pretty badass name for an egyptian-style villain, though
< 1575426234 366822 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm Ra II is also the name of one of heyerdahl's boats iirc
< 1575426330 226656 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`icode II II
< 1575426331 664280 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+0049 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER I] [U+0049 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER I] [U+0020 SPACE] [U+0049 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER I] [U+0049 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER I]
< 1575426349 382773 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh identical
< 1575426399 790033 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ra II = Ra ⅠⅠ = Ra Ⅱ <-- better?
< 1575426433 817370 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait it's the guillemets which norwegian wikipedia uses for some reason https://no.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ra_II&redirect=no
< 1575426450 869359 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`icode ⅠⅠ Ⅱ 
< 1575426451 651002 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+2160 ROMAN NUMERAL ONE] [U+2160 ROMAN NUMERAL ONE] [U+0020 SPACE] [U+2161 ROMAN NUMERAL TWO] [U+0020 SPACE]
< 1575426462 468280 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: PERFECT
< 1575426583 780880 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :unlike the english wikipedia, the norwegian one seems to include things like plurals more often
< 1575426610 220359 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. https://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Svaler is plural, corresponding to en:swallow
< 1575426657 644845 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stortinget corresponding to en:Storting, except with the definite article suffix
< 1575426699 952691 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh the bird, not the verb.
< 1575426778 25750 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah
< 1575426802 778238 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the article also considers the entire family of birds, so it makes some sense
< 1575426805 700929 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the de. version tops this and makes the plural version the main page, while the singular is a disambiguation page.
< 1575426827 880338 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(cf. https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schwalbe)
< 1575426890 777725 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. the norwegian singular (Svale) is just a redirect to the plural.
< 1575426934 346940 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ufu is definitely setting things up for an ironic disaster
< 1575426977 771660 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in some sense, has done so ever since he was introduced
< 1575427442 235151 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :let this = perf_event_open in
< 1575427446 415688 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like this?
< 1575427520 797506 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was previously worried it would be a scow API but it seems pretty reasonable.
< 1575427632 653214 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, did you know the syscall() wrapper in libc returns errors via errno rather than actually just wrapping the syscall?
< 1575427652 483172 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I previously knew this but I keep forgetting it because when I write a syscall wrapper it's reasonable.
< 1575427679 618443 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( just say no to errno )
< 1575427711 527788 :tromp!~tromp@2a02:a210:1585:3200:14e9:f35d:511:c20c JOIN :#esoteric
< 1575427750 603987 :hppavilion[1]!~omegasome@172.98.86.92 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1575427817 633709 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: err... no?!
< 1575427841 637387 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`! c syscall(1, 1, "hi\n", 3);
< 1575427843 160139 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi
< 1575427844 160802 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is a terrible pun. I salute you.
< 1575427867 415815 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aha. It seems int-e likes that, but not this.
< 1575427896 485704 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure "like" is the correct term.
< 1575427936 601124 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Nobody's like this.
< 1575427936 648168 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: ' a'.
< 1575427973 673365 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`! c syscall(1, 1, "1", 1);
< 1575427975 276160 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :1
< 1575427997 529919 :tromp!~tromp@2a02:a210:1585:3200:14e9:f35d:511:c20c QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds
< 1575428389 895469 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: How do you ensure that you got that WRITE?
< 1575428537 113071 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( i dont know what scow means, but i imagine from context it refers to the cowtalk cow writing an API )
< 1575428568 568919 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( via these things of course )
< 1575428651 913367 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` \? scow # really helpful as always
< 1575428653 944715 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :Scow (S-cow) is canned meat made from cows with a lisp.
< 1575428674 497491 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, that totally makes sense
< 1575428687 69636 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didnt know he had a lisp though
< 1575428694 597240 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the more you know
< 1575428768 618116 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think cows are generally female, Cows with Guns notwithstanding.
< 1575428819 988059 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't wait for the Chickens with Choppers.
< 1575428872 964646 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wind to the end then hth
< 1575428892 807425 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/cowtalk/cowsay/
< 1575428895 387440 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though more on topic, the high steaks pun was terrific.
< 1575428929 612626 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode JOIN :#esoteric
< 1575428992 425388 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd scow//s,.$, and an extra half-spin./
< 1575428993 348304 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/bin/sed: -e expression #1, char 30: unterminated `s' command
< 1575429000 626368 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd scow//s,.$, and an extra half-spin.,
< 1575429011 931363 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd scow//s,meat,join,
< 1575429012 716357 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :scow//Scow (S-cow) is canned meat made from cows with a lisp and an extra half-spin.
< 1575429015 851222 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"terrific" is strange at first glance, but terror bringing joy is perfectly natural, so i see how the modern definition still has it
< 1575429019 655227 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :scow//Scow (S-cow) is canned join made from cows with a lisp and an extra half-spin.
< 1575429061 341804 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm race condition
< 1575429066 721325 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: ETOOMANYPUNS
< 1575429101 591670 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :now with math _and_ physics.
< 1575429118 893125 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not a good pun but it doesn't make me sad like the other one.
< 1575429168 448283 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, who brought the lettuce to the S-cow?
< 1575429208 685842 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now for the physics angle, hmm.
< 1575429230 280646 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it connected to quarks and interlingual?
< 1575429318 752527 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quarks yes, interlingual not sure
< 1575429321 143148 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :If so that's bad enough to make milk curdle.
< 1575429367 142350 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay!
< 1575429368 366723 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think english really has "quark" in that sense. Cf. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curd
< 1575429401 966517 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hence "interlingual".
< 1575429412 483566 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i didn't think of that at all
< 1575429427 604738 :hppavilion[1]!~omegasome@172.98.86.92 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds
< 1575429450 130218 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though, hmm. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quark_(dairy_product)
< 1575429452 88945 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just about the s-, not the -cow, so to speak
< 1575429456 432755 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I'm just wrong.
< 1575429460 663942 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i imagine degrees from kevin of bacin is like layers of interlingual
< 1575429465 388435 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh.
< 1575429484 486378 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/bacin/bacon/
< 1575429488 811110 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Oh well, maybe I've taken it to a full spin now.
< 1575429532 664771 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kevin Bacon is an excellent name for a pig.
< 1575429793 732784 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh s is for "scalar"
< 1575429842 473905 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it should be spinned down instead of up
< 1575429843 746893 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-7.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Freeze Artifact {1UU} Snow Instant ;; Target artifact loses all abilities and has base power 0 until end of turn. Counter all triggered abilities of that artifact, and tap that artifact. ;; Flashback {4UU} ;; Affinity for snow lands
< 1575430021 120527 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? scream
< 1575430022 416186 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :scream? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1575430112 29367 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? sport
< 1575430113 280965 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :sport <n> divides its input into irc-sized pieces and displays the nth (default first). The pipe version of `1. See also spore.
< 1575430139 128905 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Port is not a dairy product, fortunately.)
< 1575430219 542757 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: logically sport is a swine product though.
< 1575430254 600858 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :right.
< 1575430369 159623 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I guess "steak" is also interesting in this context.
< 1575430401 317377 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd scow//s,an .*,spun down by half to remove the scream.,
< 1575430404 109714 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :scow//Scow (S-cow) is canned join made from cows with a lisp and spun down by half to remove the scream.
< 1575430515 466866 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am afraid that edit may have done the opposite, alas.
< 1575430530 309612 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@wn teak
< 1575430531 863303 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :*** "teak" wn "WordNet (r) 3.0 (2006)"
< 1575430532 21596 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :teak
< 1575430532 28127 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :    n 1: hard strong durable yellowish-brown wood of teak trees;
< 1575430532 28163 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :         resistant to insects and to warping; used for furniture and
< 1575430532 28173 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :         in shipbuilding [syn: {teak}, {teakwood}]
< 1575430533 863677 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :[3 @more lines]
< 1575430583 385318 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the tense change was obvious when i saw it hth
< 1575430607 258542 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or well, noun -> verb change
< 1575430893 540914 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this channel is answering all my questions in life today
< 1575430894 44388 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( ETHEYJUSTKEEPPILINGON )
< 1575430894 237813 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: i think a steak pun in this context might be hard to chew and we should table it for later.
< 1575430894 343510 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you sure you don't want to stable it instead
< 1575430894 396753 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was on the edge
< 1575430894 500317 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're right
< 1575430906 236696 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :excellent
< 1575430911 540716 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is common phenomenon restaurants e.g. have a pig with a fork, to advertise bacon;  so yes, kevin bacon is his name
< 1575430957 52361 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :its supposed to be "umm, im so tasty i could eat myself, dont you want some?"
< 1575430999 963809 :tromp!~tromp@2a02:a210:1585:3200:14e9:f35d:511:c20c JOIN :#esoteric
< 1575431001 899659 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: the steak may fall to slumber
< 1575431087 930651 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :saw.
< 1575431115 140092 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm still looking for a use of "scrying".
< 1575431143 227422 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(By this point I'm cheating, and employing stool support.)
< 1575431177 696381 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` comm -12 /usr/share/dict/words <(grep ^s /usr/share/dict/words | sed 's=.==' | sort) | wc -c
< 1575431178 803961 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :comm: file 1 is not in sorted order \ 0
< 1575431193 321367 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` comm -12 <(sort /usr/share/dict/words) <(grep ^s /usr/share/dict/words | sed 's=.==' | sort) | wc -c
< 1575431194 524197 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :7829
< 1575431231 213375 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo $(comm -12 <(sort /usr/share/dict/words) <(grep ^s /usr/share/dict/words | sed 's=.==' | sort) | shuf)
< 1575431232 512368 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :patters lightness's miles hatters hot cores hare ow trident lab wine lop age nagged purred cowl have pins tout's ell's park's allies ledge's cams late lump's tall kidding cram lob's loped lick horn tumble's molders ail wished crawling hoot tumbler's tow potty tuck melt's weeping he'll handy crews evens wears mocking ampler wagging pawned pout's hod crew parring tared paces wig hale lap table top's mocked trapped lump unless cone's molder's ton
< 1575431233 206940 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :just keep swiping the data
< 1575431257 956673 :tromp!~tromp@2a02:a210:1585:3200:14e9:f35d:511:c20c QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds
< 1575431313 59456 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually for a random selection that contains an amazing number of candidates we've already covered.
< 1575431496 223391 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :now find a sentence that makes sense both with and without prepending s to every word :P
< 1575431570 479984 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose there might not be enough connective words starting in s to make it work for long
< 1575431691 623028 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, say I have struct { T *p; int len, cap; } arr; defined locally.
< 1575431701 727608 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I pass &arr.p to some other function.
< 1575431707 292181 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can it get at len and cap without UB?
< 1575431913 9368 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`8ball can he?
< 1575431913 960288 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :Very doubtful.
< 1575431941 139771 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :its difficult to answer that since i may hold things hostage, but when i do it its not called piracy
< 1575431976 623189 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :'arr' is out of my field
< 1575432187 685754 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you basically might have padding
< 1575432197 51888 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you can get to something, perhaps padding
< 1575432206 714100 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :theres an offsetof macro or something
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< 1575433241 393511 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`! c return *(int *)0;
< 1575433243 76305 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/interps/gcccomp/gcccomp: line 53:    68 Segmentation fault      /tmp/compiled.$$
< 1575433261 905403 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`brl !
< 1575433262 960340 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://hack.esolangs.org/repo/file/tip/bin/%21
< 1575433439 734153 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`../hackenv/ibin/c return *(int *)0;
< 1575433440 456359 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​../hackenv/ibin/c? No such file or directory
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< 1575433450 209009 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`/hackenv/ibin/c return *(int *)0;
< 1575433454 152098 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/interps/gcccomp/gcccomp: line 53:    62 Segmentation fault      /tmp/compiled.$$
< 1575433483 337701 :haavard!~haavard@haavard.me JOIN :#esoteric
< 1575433555 137352 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo $$
< 1575433555 889181 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :50
< 1575433569 213432 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo $$
< 1575433570 203427 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​$$
< 1575433600 393370 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` sh -c 'echo $$'
< 1575433601 192286 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :53
< 1575433690 165415 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slwd lib/interp//6iecho $ARGFILE
< 1575433692 76195 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roswbud!
< 1575433699 161373 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`t sled lib/interp//6iecho $ARGFILE
< 1575433701 416379 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :lib/interp//#!/bin/sh \  \ export I_CMD="$0" \ export I_ARG="$1" \ export ARG_FILE="/tmp/input.$$" \ echo $ARGFILE \  \ get_arg() { \     #if expr "$I_ARG" : "http://" > /dev/null \     #then \     #    wget $WGET_OPTIONS "$I_ARG" -O "$ARG_FILE" \     #else \         printf '%s' "$I_ARG" > "$ARG_FILE" \     #fi \ } \  \ clean_arg() { \     rm -f "$ARG_FILE" \ } \  \ interp_stdin() { \     get_arg \     $1 < "$ARG_FILE" 2>&1 \     clean_arg \ }
< 1575433716 537377 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`/hackenv/ibin/c return *(int *)0;
< 1575433718 28098 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ \ /hackenv/interps/gcccomp/gcccomp: line 53:    62 Segmentation fault      /tmp/compiled.$$
< 1575433767 597367 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` /hackenv/ibin/c 'return *(int *)0;' 2>/dev/null
< 1575433769 172218 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ \ /hackenv/interps/gcccomp/gcccomp: line 53:    66 Segmentation fault      /tmp/compiled.$$
< 1575433776 831641 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hum
< 1575433970 649369 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert
< 1575433971 580029 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done.
< 1575433975 33359 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`before
< 1575433977 628087 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/lib/interp//#!/bin/sh \  \ export I_CMD="$0" \ export I_ARG="$1" \ export ARG_FILE="/tmp/input.$$" \ echo $ARGFILE \  \ get_arg() { \     #if expr "$I_ARG" : "http://" > /dev/null \     #then \     #    wget $WGET_OPTIONS "$I_ARG" -O "$ARG_FILE" \     #else \         printf '%s' "$I_ARG" > "$ARG_FILE" \     #fi \ } \  \ clean_arg() { \     rm -f "$ARG_FILE" \ } \  \ interp_stdin() { \     get_arg \     $1 < "$ARG_FILE" 2>&1 \     c
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> 1575435736 910854 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07IBC14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67616&oldid=67607 5* 03Quadril-Is 5* (+0) 10/* Cat program */
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< 1575439985 732431 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :<FireFly> wib_jonas: ah <-- scowrevs is generally stupid revisions that affected a lot of files and then got reverted, so it doesn't really tell you anything useful but clutters up what you're really looking for
< 1575440015 913666 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nearly all of the time
< 1575440106 495710 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :if there are any ranges in there that _didn't_ end up changing nothing, that may be considered an error
< 1575440149 413375 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? scowrevs
< 1575440150 608248 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :scowrevs? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1575440309 745359 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`le/rn scowrevs///hackenv/share/scowrevs is a list of repository revision ranges that affected a lot of files but in the end changed nothing (usually because of a revert at the end). Most of our custom repository lookup commands ignore these to reduce noise.
< 1575440312 320770 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'scowrevs': /hackenv/share/scowrevs is a list of repository revision ranges that affected a lot of files but in the end changed nothing (usually because of a revert at the end). Most of our custom repository lookup commands ignore these to reduce noise.
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< 1575448551 327642 :timofonic!~timofonic@unaffiliated/timofonic PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Hello. Where's Aimfiz and Fweep source code? I cant f8nd it on GitLab, GitHub or similar. Do you know about dreammaster's ScummGlk in the ScummVM project? There's #scummvm IRC channel. Disclaimer: I'm not part of the ScummVM project, just a mere user and fan of IF and Point & Click Adventure Games.
< 1575448686 467573 :timofonic!~timofonic@unaffiliated/timofonic PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried to use a Gopher proxy to look at your site, no success at all. You made lots of nntp links on it
< 1575449689 873783 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :<myname> I suppose, if you pronounce gif as jif, you should pronounce fungot as funjot <-- i don't think that's orthographically plausible, g before "o" is never soft.
< 1575449690 23523 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: could you juse for fun _only_ switch the backend to accomodate the fnord of a
< 1575449718 106328 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would have to be spelled fungeot for that.
< 1575449986 645373 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, g before "a" shouldn't be, but someone had to invent "gaol".
< 1575450029 760388 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION waits for the avalanche of counterexamples
< 1575450070 622647 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, unless o or a are part of diphthong, that could mess things up.
< 1575450108 98325 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*is
< 1575450156 461363 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? fungi
< 1575450157 627466 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungi? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1575450232 864029 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-58.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: for "ga", Alan's pronunciation dictionary says "mortgagor" but I've no idea what that means
< 1575450258 863591 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-58.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, that's for "go"
< 1575450281 787322 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-58.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and for "ga", it says "algae, baggage, 
< 1575450331 392441 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-58.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :gaol, gaolbird, gaolbreak, gaoler, margarine"
< 1575450405 399337 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-58.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nowait, the baggage is one of the many false positives too, where the other g is pronounced soft
< 1575450439 296047 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-58.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :in that case, the counterexamples are "mortgagor" for "go" and "algae, gaol, gaolbird, gaolbreak, gaoler, margarine" for "ga"
< 1575450538 258603 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-58.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://esolangs.org/logs/2019-10.html#lnEc for meta-info on Alan's pronunciation dictionary
< 1575450701 798630 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :algae has a dipthong, but margarine seems right
< 1575450729 457514 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-58.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't seem right to me, English is just pronouncing it wrong
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< 1575450794 543285 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know, but it seems like a counterexample
< 1575450887 810117 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mortgagor is illogical, although Agoran
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> 1575452114 998 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07///14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67617&oldid=67034 5* 03Quadril-Is 5* (+241) 10/* Hello, world! */
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> 1575455163 304025 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Beatnik14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67618&oldid=53676 5* 03Quadril-Is 5* (+53) 10/* Cat program */
> 1575455485 907201 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Beatnik14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67619&oldid=67618 5* 03Quadril-Is 5* (-53) 10nope doesn
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< 1575460735 13234 :timofonic!~timofonic@unaffiliated/timofonic PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: If you are interested, dreammaster is usually there (depending on each timezone, of course). I also read the IRC logs of both channels, ScummVM developers also usually read the #scummvm channel IRC logs too. What do you think? :)
< 1575460925 475349 :timofonic!~timofonic@unaffiliated/timofonic PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why do you people care about pronunciation? Do you find geeks in person to be able to talk about this stuff in person and not only text?
< 1575460987 332850 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :although i am not in that group discussing, pronunciation is everything for certain things
< 1575460992 810126 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and spelling is zilch
< 1575461010 955787 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pronunciation is a spelling of sorts
< 1575461047 380041 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have to say magic words correctly or they do strange things
< 1575461068 657214 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you have to purposely say them strangely if you want correct things
< 1575461076 969582 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which requires knowing "correctness"
< 1575461166 220314 :timofonic!~timofonic@unaffiliated/timofonic PRIVMSG #esoteric :Most personally important stuff for me is in written form, anyway
< 1575461208 446237 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are phonic writings
< 1575461872 841459 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`t t 5 t t ` w
< 1575461874 632456 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/`: eval: line 5: unexpected EOF while looking for matching ``' \ /hackenv/bin/`: eval: line 6: syntax error: unexpected end of file \ /hackenv/bin/`: eval: line 5: unexpected EOF while looking for matching ``' \ /hackenv/bin/`: eval: line 6: syntax error: unexpected end of file \ /hackenv/bin/`: eval: line 5: unexpected EOF while looking for matching ``' \ /hackenv/bin/`: eval: line 6: syntax error: unexpected end of file \ /ha
< 1575461889 405397 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh oh
< 1575461892 489786 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`t t 5 t t w
< 1575461897 480200 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/nur: line 2: : command not found \ /hackenv/bin/nur: line 2: : command not found \ /hackenv/bin/nur: line 2: : command not found \ /hackenv/bin/nur: line 2: : command not found \ /hackenv/bin/nur: line 2: : command not found \ 1/0:
< 1575461908 181617 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`t t 5 w
< 1575461910 696544 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :1/1:gamemanj//gamemanj is also the mad scientist I. N. Here. He will overthink everything, except whether overthinking is wrong. \ apt-get//apt-get installs whatever you wanted, plus whatever Mark Shuttleworth wanted. \ tswett//tswett is livin' it up with the penguins. He's a title under the cruxite in the lathe. \ baba//BABA IS ¯\(°​_o)/¯ \ hug//hug? ¯\_/¯\(°​_o)/¯\_/¯
< 1575461921 369834 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. 5 is a run, not a nur.
< 1575462017 447671 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :re: pronunciation, also, to correctly satirize something you have to know it well enough
< 1575462055 26611 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the people so concerned may be in agreement on the worthlessness of pronunciation
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< 1575468451 303099 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.12.206.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cwlprits baba
< 1575468453 428219 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjän
< 1575468459 836637 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.12.206.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahaha :D
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> 1575473787 592046 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Hex96 5*  10New user account
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> 1575474159 75676 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67620&oldid=67602 5* 03Hex96 5* (+148) 10/* Introductions */
> 1575474170 265406 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Burn14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67621&oldid=60871 5* 03Hex96 5* (+272) 10/* I think I got the main parts down */ new section
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> 1575476166 182431 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Burn14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67622&oldid=67621 5* 03Hex96 5* (+65) 10/* I think I got the main parts down */
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> 1575476715 281117 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Code is eso14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67625&oldid=67624 5* 03DmilkaSTD 5* (+15) 10
> 1575476966 12832 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Code is eso14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67626&oldid=67625 5* 03DmilkaSTD 5* (+2) 10
> 1575477347 798294 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Burn14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67627&oldid=67622 5* 03Hex96 5* (+477) 10/* Attempted programs */ new section
> 1575477369 450858 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Burn14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67628&oldid=67627 5* 03Hex96 5* (+5) 10/* Attempted programs */
> 1575477452 4763 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Burn14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67629&oldid=67628 5* 03Hex96 5* (+25) 10/* Attempted programs */
< 1575478568 900893 :cpressey!~cpressey@5.133.242.4 PRIVMSG #esoteric :arseniiv: From what I understood from reading about HOAS, the powerful thing about full-blown HOAS is that it treats two terms as equivalent if one can be α-, β-, or η- converted to the other.  Unification modulo αβη-conversion, in other words.
< 1575478630 927527 :cpressey!~cpressey@5.133.242.4 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And that's what makes it need higher-order unification to work.
< 1575478704 264504 :cpressey!~cpressey@5.133.242.4 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I think that's probably far more powerfully expressive than I'd ever need or want!
< 1575478868 461517 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.12.206.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: hmm wait, how is equivalence defined there?
< 1575478877 195833 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.12.206.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway interesting
< 1575478947 348114 :cpressey!~cpressey@5.133.242.4 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you could say, if, by the rules of lambda calculus, you could reduce some term X to some other term Y, then HOAS treats them as effectively the same term.
< 1575479005 523905 :cpressey!~cpressey@5.133.242.4 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, that was my understanding of it, anyway.
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< 1575479605 248301 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.12.206.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: do you mean, computationally? then it should be a broader equivalence, I think…
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< 1575479932 617448 :cpressey!~cpressey@5.133.242.4 PRIVMSG #esoteric :arseniiv: It may be that I fail to see all the implications, but I can't see how it could be anything other than computational, in this sense: there's nothing else in the lambda calculus besides α-, β-, and η- conversion, so if you permit all of those to happen when considering if two terms are equivalent, then... well, you allow arbitrary computations.
< 1575480102 484583 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.12.206.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: I think I have seen two non-αβη-convertible combinators with the same behavior. Hm maybe two divergent ones, let’s say Ω and maybe YI?
< 1575480171 195066 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-7.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :timofonic: What is the context of that? What is it about?
< 1575480211 856851 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-7.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, I found your previous message too now
< 1575480219 821594 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-7.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK I understand
< 1575480222 308846 :cpressey!~cpressey@5.133.242.4 PRIVMSG #esoteric :arseniiv: That seems likely.  (It seems like it should be the implication of some famouse theorem maybe)  But even when they are αβη-convertible, the problem of actually converting one into the other is undecidable in general.
< 1575480228 534406 :cpressey!~cpressey@5.133.242.4 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*famous
< 1575480238 12721 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-7.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The answer is I have lost the source code for Fweep and Aimfiz
< 1575480294 989363 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-7.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does the gopher proxy break when there are NNTP links? If not, then the stuff other than the NNTP link should still work isn't it?
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< 1575480506 789257 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-7.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The NNTP links are listed under the "ZZ Zero" menu; are you interested in ZZ Zero?
< 1575480535 821508 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-7.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I should perhaps add some additional information there too; that menu does not describe much of what ZZ Zero is.)
> 1575480646 423162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Hex9614]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=67630 5* 03Hex96 5* (+106) 10Created page with "I have a challenge for you, I call it the r challenge, get input and print it backwards. Thats it"
> 1575480955 875822 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Burn14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67631&oldid=67629 5* 03Dart 5* (+42) 10
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< 1575481790 736106 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-7.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(ZZ Zero is a ZZT-like game creation system. If you have used ZZT or MegaZeux or ZIG or other ZZT-likes then maybe you can understand what I mean by this)
> 1575481892 930478 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Hex9614]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67632&oldid=67630 5* 03Palaiologos 5* (+150) 10
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< 1575481950 425179 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I felt like I have to complete this challenge
< 1575481955 735483 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just a random thought
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< 1575482873 231603 :kritixilithos!~kritixili@gateway/tor-sasl/kritixilithos PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is HOAS?
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< 1575483783 440922 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"higher order abstract syntax"
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< 1575484351 530929 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.12.206.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought that was an acronym of HOAS Often Are Serious
< 1575484381 535416 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.12.206.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe sentimental or serialized
> 1575484514 660531 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Hex9614]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67633&oldid=67632 5* 03Hex96 5* (+26) 10
< 1575484562 777664 :kritixilithos!~kritixili@gateway/tor-sasl/kritixilithos PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks int-e
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> 1575484867 447922 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Hex9614]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67634&oldid=67633 5* 03Hex96 5* (+104) 10
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> 1575485003 321150 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User talk:Hex9614]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=67635 5* 03Hex96 5* (+77) 10Created page with "Hiya, I make "burn" theories. I also have a challenge. It is in my user page."
> 1575485314 586912 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Burn14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67636&oldid=31184 5* 03Hex96 5* (+53) 10
> 1575485523 409844 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Burn14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67637&oldid=67631 5* 03Hex96 5* (+137) 10/* Attempted programs */
> 1575485550 417243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Burn14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67638&oldid=67637 5* 03Hex96 5* (+5) 10
> 1575485573 651697 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Burn14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67639&oldid=67638 5* 03Hex96 5* (+0) 10
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> 1575485918 91874 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Burn14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67640&oldid=67639 5* 03Hex96 5* (-6) 10/* Attempted programs */
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> 1575489067 604470 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Hex9614]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67645&oldid=67644 5* 03Palaiologos 5* (+138) 10
> 1575489079 440201 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Hex9614]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67646&oldid=67645 5* 03Palaiologos 5* (+104) 10Forgot to sign :p
> 1575489462 427678 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Hex9614]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67647&oldid=67646 5* 03Hex96 5* (+65) 10
> 1575489541 25884 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Hex9614]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67648&oldid=67647 5* 03Hex96 5* (+24) 10
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< 1575490997 488 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-140.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kspalaiologos: how was the incineration? I hope you payed attention to safety.
< 1575491055 277763 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm still working on it among other things
< 1575491079 772929 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've made a few decisions regarding the bot already so I might be able to rewrite it pretty quickly as I get to doing it lol
< 1575491112 208417 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-140.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok
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< 1575501142 912547 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEso
< 1575501158 190666 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :...whoop, keyboards are hard.
< 1575501170 689361 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`5 botsnack
< 1575501172 512305 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :1/1:>:-D \ >:-D \ >:-D \ >:-D \ >:-D
< 1575501186 813363 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? 1
< 1575501188 21677 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :The 1 is just for disambiguation.
< 1575501191 145378 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? `1
< 1575501192 369578 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​`1 <cmd> is equivalent to `` <cmd>, except that it splits the output into irc-sized pieces. The next pieces can be viewed with `spam. See also `2. Confusingly the obvious generalization of `4.
< 1575501199 201373 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? `2
< 1575501200 473029 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​`2 <cmd> is equivalent to `1 <cmd>, except that it starts displaying the _second_ output piece. Useful when you've already run a command forgetting to use `1.
< 1575501202 681372 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? `4
< 1575501204 73173 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​`4 <cmd> is equivalent to `5 <cmd>, except that it only repeats 4 times. Useful when you've already run a command forgetting to use `5.
< 1575501209 469366 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? `5
< 1575501210 676229 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​`5 <cmd> is equivalent to repeating `` <cmd> 5 times, then splitting the output into irc-sized pieces. <cmd> defaults to "quote". See `1, `4 and `spam. Confusingly _not_ the obvious generalization of `2.
< 1575501221 741378 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? `3
< 1575501222 968201 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​`3 is the obvious generalization of `2 or `4, trying too hard to confuse everyone.
< 1575501287 359093 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, what I was going to do was comment on that thing from -blah.
< 1575501288 355801 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`
< 1575501289 164215 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​? Permission denied
< 1575501299 45354 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is an odd error.
< 1575501300 985433 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`
< 1575501302 537542 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​? Permission denied
< 1575501307 604578 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Presumably it's trying to execute the empty string.
< 1575501308 895701 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it trying to execute a directory?
< 1575501318 741923 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`/hackenv/bin
< 1575501319 512305 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin? Permission denied
< 1575501321 742561 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I think that would follow.
< 1575501354 513362 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`! c execve("", (char *[]){}, 0);
< 1575501356 132663 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1575501366 523778 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please don't make /hackenv/bin a file just to test that.
< 1575501379 561364 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`! c execve("", (char *[]){}, 0); printf("error: %s\n", strerror(errno));
< 1575501380 848296 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does not compile.
< 1575501390 589358 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`! c execve("", (char *[]){}, 0); printf("error: %d\n", errno);
< 1575501391 780392 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does not compile.
< 1575501402 717354 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`! c printf("test\n");
< 1575501404 452237 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :test
< 1575501420 785356 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`! c (int)errno;
< 1575501422 347311 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember at least one of these turned the \n into a newline even when inside a string literal.
< 1575501424 596128 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does not compile.
< 1575501426 362699 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What an omission.
< 1575501435 105430 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`! c perror("uh");
< 1575501436 596363 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh: Success
< 1575501439 997766 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's that.
< 1575501460 645393 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat /hackenv/ibin/c
< 1575501461 336446 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ . ${HACKENV-/hackenv}/lib/interp \ interp_file "${HACKENV-/hackenv}/interps/gcccomp/gcccomp c"
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< 1575501474 417371 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`! c execve("", (char *[]){}, 0); perror("execve");
< 1575501476 8302 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :execve: No such file or directory
< 1575501484 393366 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat /hackenv/interps/gcccomp/gcccomp
< 1575501487 302970 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/bash \ LANG="$1" \ echo >>"$2" \  \ case "$LANG" in \     c) \         HEAD='#include <stdio.h>\n#include <stdlib.h>\n#include <string.h>\n#include <sys/types.h>\n#include <unistd.h>\nint main(int argc, char **argv) {' \         TAIL='; return 0; }' \         EXT='c' \         GCC='gcc' \         FLAGS='-lm -std=gnu99' \     ;; \  \     c++) \         HEAD='#include <iostream>\n#include <cstdio>\n#include <cstdlib>\n#include <cstring
< 1575501500 946420 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, thanks to the path search ` is not a straightforward execve.
< 1575501532 57377 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`! c execlo("", 0); perror("exec");
< 1575501533 680363 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does not compile.
< 1575501534 114735 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh
< 1575501536 207918 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`! c execlp("", 0); perror("exec");
< 1575501537 756523 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :exec: No such file or directory
< 1575501541 965994 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since "" does not contain a '/', it would try to execute "/hackenv/bin/", "/bin/" and "/usr/bin/" in order.
< 1575501548 110646 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess that's technically a bug.
< 1575501550 989363 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`! c execlp("/hackenv", 0); perror("exec");
< 1575501552 636137 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :exec: Permission denied
< 1575501563 306204 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It must be doing a different path search from execlp, if that's what's going's on's.
< 1575501576 125683 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it does a manual path search.
< 1575501602 694972 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because exec*p is hardcoded to use /bin/sh for files that are executable but not #!something.
< 1575501617 253405 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And longstanding tradition has those must be executed with /bin/bash.
< 1575501625 490477 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :A manual path search? Does that mean it's searching in /usr/share/man/?
< 1575501677 947056 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh, heh.
< 1575501712 961399 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`! c execve("/hackenv/bin/run", (char *[]){0}, 0); perror("that does not compute");
< 1575501714 572398 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :that does not compute: Exec format error
< 1575501756 692904 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"p - execlp(), execvp(), execvpe() -- In addition, certain errors are treated specially. If the header of a file isn't recognized (the attempted execve(2) failed with the error ENOEXEC), these functions will execute the shell (/bin/sh) with the path of the file as its first argument."
< 1575501840 715727 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's all in https://github.com/fis/umlbox/blob/master/init.c#L248
< 1575501891 220427 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Golly. So many malloc calls.
< 1575501923 883643 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's kind of funny to use malloc to allocate arguments to exec.
< 1575501946 117143 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did in fact consider using a VLA there.
< 1575501969 377201 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, that could cause a stack overflow or something.
< 1575501996 560376 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :In a general case. For HackEso specifically, there's the limit from the length of an IRC message.
< 1575502010 74357 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure.
< 1575502019 498626 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But of course you could use a stack other than the %rsp one.
< 1575502066 765377 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is in fact a VLA in there, `char target[sizeof "/host/" + strlen(mnt->target)];`
< 1575502107 727812 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wish the idiom of allocating your own arena was more common.
< 1575502120 594110 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess glibc has obstack.
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< 1575508659 966954 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`5 w
< 1575508662 734103 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :1/2:monads//Monads are just free monad monad monad algebras. \ tanebvention//Tanebventions include necessity, Go, submarine jousting, Fueue, the universe, metar, sand, dragons, persistence, the BBC, _46bit, progress, sanity, the hug, Italian, the grace period, the limerick, ruin, and this sentence. See also tanebventions: maths or tanebventions: foods. He never invents anything involving sex. \ lie group//Lie groups are groups that try b
< 1575508664 593373 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`n
< 1575508665 424409 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :2/2:eing too smooth for their own good. \ gamemanj//gamemanj is also the mad scientist I. N. Here. He will overthink everything, except whether overthinking is wrong. \ vanila//In a cruel twist of fate, vanila has come to #esoteric in search of wisdom.
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< 1575515501 794112 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: So I fixed my thing to do what I think is correct FirstUIP.
< 1575515512 333588 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It still takes much longer when doing clause learning.
< 1575515584 362966 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :On the same instance, MiniSat says it deleted only <25% of its conflict literals (I think?), so I'm not sure deletion is the big missing thing here.
< 1575515613 856080 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But also it's not learning as many clauses as I am so maybe it's something along those lines.
> 1575515628 293966 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Burn14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67650&oldid=67636 5* 03Oerjan 5* (-53) 10Undo revision 67636 by [[Special:Contributions/Hex96|Hex96]] ([[User talk:Hex96|talk]]) (Wild speculation doesn't belong in the official information sections.)
< 1575515779 745848 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently there weren't any sections, blame my brain
< 1575515868 134436 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh oh.
< 1575515875 120408 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :There were no sections, so you're issuing a retraction?
< 1575515877 285353 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is it with people making up theories without first understanding what's already known?
< 1575515887 938839 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION swats shachaf -----###
< 1575516866 85602 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Oh, hmm, I'm learning duplicate clauses, that's not good.
< 1575516871 80503 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably everything I said is nonsense.
< 1575518601 554585 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yafgc is back
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< 1575519851 194113 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dunno, same reason noone pays much attention to atlas holding the earth up. what if he has to scratch his nose?   kablooie
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< 1575521065 374431 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kingoffrance: i'm pretty sure in ancient greek mythology atlas held the _heavens_ up.
< 1575521218 410530 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hes clearly passed out drunk nowadays then
< 1575521261 402940 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing to worry about
< 1575521284 134303 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is all the same to alchemy
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< 1575521787 341354 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just need him to push down hell really
< 1575522264 533056 :elliemae!~ellie@174.111.219.93 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would anyone here mind looking over my javagony code and see about obtimising?
< 1575522946 155841 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :[A
< 1575522947 25712 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :[A
< 1575522950 129015 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops
< 1575523003 284210 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops
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< 1575523013 49394 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf
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< 1575525360 577943 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION plays offspring "you gotta keep em separated" in hopes of convincing atlas
< 1575525368 552639 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats his thing
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> 1575536757 328139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Burn14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67651&oldid=67640 5* 03Dart 5* (+363) 10
> 1575537200 14071 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Burn14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67652&oldid=67651 5* 03Dart 5* (+40) 10I also moved a section if that's okay
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> 1575545816 197761 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Code is eso14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67653&oldid=67626 5* 03DmilkaSTD 5* (+397) 10
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> 1575547809 712114 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Code is eso14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67654&oldid=67653 5* 03DmilkaSTD 5* (+9) 10
> 1575547815 885467 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Hex9614]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67655&oldid=67649 5* 03A 5* (+209) 10Shouldn't it be harder?
> 1575547917 973188 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Hex9614]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67656&oldid=67655 5* 03A 5* (+149) 10
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> 1575548044 851584 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Hex9614]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67657&oldid=67656 5* 03A 5* (+85) 10Add a link to this challenge
> 1575548725 683718 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Hex9614]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67658&oldid=67657 5* 03A 5* (+52) 10
> 1575549289 278853 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Hex9614]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67659&oldid=67658 5* 03A 5* (+490) 10
> 1575549310 798325 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Hex9614]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67660&oldid=67659 5* 03A 5* (+149) 10/* Python, 185 bytes */
> 1575549384 732700 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Hex9614]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67661&oldid=67660 5* 03A 5* (-15) 10/* Python, 185 bytes */
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< 1575550991 222351 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cd /tmp; printf "#if u'\\0'-1<0\n#
< 1575550993 104626 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/`: eval: line 5: unexpected EOF while looking for matching `"' \ /hackenv/bin/`: eval: line 6: syntax error: unexpected end of file
< 1575551077 205385 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cd /tmp; printf "#include <assert.h>\n#if u'\\0'-1<0\n#error assertion failure\n#endif\nint main(void)\n{\nassert(u'\\0'-1<0);\n}" > t.c; gcc -std=c11 -pedantic t.c; ./a.out;
< 1575551079 69174 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :t.c:2:5: warning: null character(s) preserved in literal \  #if u' '-1<0 \      ^ \ t.c: In function ‘main’: \ t.c:7:8: warning: null character(s) preserved in literal \  assert(u' '-1<0); \         ^
< 1575551098 401347 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cd /tmp; printf "#include <assert.h>\n#if u'\\\\0'-1<0\n#error assertion failure\n#endif\nint main(void)\n{\nassert(u'\\\\0'-1<0);\n}" > t.c; gcc -std=c11 -pedantic t.c; ./a.out;
< 1575551099 636314 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1575551104 182493 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :neat
< 1575551224 884568 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, I should make a proper wrapper for testing C snippets
< 1575551337 96559 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a thing like `! c that supports #include?
< 1575551454 379314 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: no, that's the wrapper that I should write
< 1575551460 589320 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a geordi-like one
< 1575551478 718058 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :except for the part where Eelis says that geordi will never support compiling C, only C++
< 1575551538 894564 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll have to review the tokenizer rules of C and C++ for that though, to figure out when exactly an apostrophe is part of a numeric literal versus when it's a separator for a character literal
< 1575551805 642694 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why do all that?
< 1575551920 28738 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wib_jonas: more readable: https://tio.run/##VYy7CgIxEEX7@YqBLXa3iGxqV3/DxmaYJOtATCQPEcRfNwa0sbkcOIfLamNubZDAvhqLK@VsU9ldjjCIwzqelxEValxxgcGmFBN@E4kBHYmvyXYRjDgACQWvJGG6RzEzPAF/8fR3NO/h1dqbnactN3Ui7/vaR0nUlMrFHFjrTjdrKBThDw
< 1575551960 956842 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(this example comes from a defect report against C11, the committee decided it was intended behaviour, but it looks really weird)
< 1575551962 14451 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: ok, but it's not specifically this C program that I care about
< 1575553397 617359 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cc #include <assert.h> \n #if u'\0' - 1 < 0 \n #error assertion failure \n #endif \n int main(void) { assert(u'\0' - 1 < 0); }
< 1575553398 789137 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1575553423 956281 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's already that one, if you just want gcc -std=c11 with a hard newline support, no automatic nothing.
< 1575553460 901226 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that does look useful, though I may still try to make a custom version
< 1575553479 244357 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Granted, it's a bit problematic if there's a \n inside a string literal. But you can always work around that, e.g. by making it \x0a or \012 instead.
< 1575553502 602196 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I did like ##c's candide, which had a lot of DWIM.)
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< 1575553757 422633 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds
< 1575553813 486354 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 NICK :Lord_of_Life
< 1575554211 849402 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :idea: compiler from a defined tikz-subset to funciton
< 1575554380 830602 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, C++ tokenization is nasty. maybe ais was right about recognizing only the backslash-space
> 1575554513 233410 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Code is eso14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67662&oldid=67654 5* 03DmilkaSTD 5* (+334) 10
< 1575554610 802154 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think I could implement C++ tokenization correctly. it looks too complicated. 
> 1575554721 813573 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Esomachine14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67663&oldid=67611 5* 03DmilkaSTD 5* (+24) 10
> 1575554762 200857 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:DmilkaSTD14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=67664 5* 03DmilkaSTD 5* (+43) 10Created page with "My esolangs: [[Esomachine]] [[Code is eso]]"
< 1575554773 96381 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The "add main wrapper but only if it doesn't exist" and "add default include files if no #include directives" features are convenient. candide also did the "add main wrapper around top-level code while still allowing function definitions", but that's more complicated.
> 1575554786 55239 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:DmilkaSTD14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67665&oldid=67664 5* 03DmilkaSTD 5* (+8) 10
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< 1575555382 143999 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
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> 1575555674 307637 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:DmilkaSTD14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67666&oldid=67665 5* 03DmilkaSTD 5* (+107) 10
> 1575555710 521126 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Code is eso14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67667&oldid=67662 5* 03DmilkaSTD 5* (+41) 10
> 1575555770 207252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Esomachine14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67668&oldid=67663 5* 03DmilkaSTD 5* (-24) 10
> 1575556039 922944 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Code is eso14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67669&oldid=67667 5* 03DmilkaSTD 5* (+38) 10
> 1575556199 362718 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:DmilkaSTD14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67670&oldid=67666 5* 03DmilkaSTD 5* (+56) 10
> 1575556769 264703 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Esomachine14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67671&oldid=67668 5* 03DmilkaSTD 5* (+62) 10
> 1575556833 279214 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Esomachine14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67672&oldid=67671 5* 03DmilkaSTD 5* (-2) 10
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> 1575559798 42613 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Burn14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67673&oldid=67652 5* 03Hex96 5* (+91) 10/* I think I got the main parts down */
< 1575562171 632557 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1575564313 907733 :MDude!~MDude@97-127-187-59.cdrr.qwest.net QUIT :Read error: No route to host
< 1575564360 65480 :cpressey!~cpressey@5.133.242.4 QUIT :Quit: A la prochaine.
> 1575565409 934220 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07H14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67674&oldid=67461 5* 03Dart 5* (+114) 10
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> 1575569918 657365 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Burn14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67675&oldid=67673 5* 03Dart 5* (+1241) 10/* Random Observations and Guesses */
> 1575570028 944535 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Burn14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67676&oldid=67675 5* 03Hex96 5* (+2) 10
> 1575570120 988419 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Burn14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67677&oldid=67676 5* 03Hex96 5* (-4) 10/* Attempted programs */
> 1575570152 872298 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Burn14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67678&oldid=67677 5* 03Hex96 5* (+11) 10
> 1575570154 652095 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Burn14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67679&oldid=67678 5* 03Dart 5* (+0) 10
> 1575570175 153027 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Burn14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67680&oldid=67679 5* 03Hex96 5* (-96) 10/* Attempted programs */
> 1575570479 473880 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Hex9614]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67681&oldid=67661 5* 03Hex96 5* (+30) 10/* Python, 175 bytes */
> 1575570559 604953 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Hex9614]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67682&oldid=67681 5* 03Hex96 5* (+36) 10
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< 1575571615 893365 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-174.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? j-bot
< 1575571617 165815 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-bot? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
> 1575571642 498618 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Tttt14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=67683 5* 03Hex96 5* (+737) 10Created page with "==Intro== ===what is Tttt?== Tttt is a programming language that is so simple that it has 7 characters: 1.) a 2.) b 3.) c All the way to g. ===the data=== The data is kind of..."
> 1575571660 444708 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Tttt14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67684&oldid=67683 5* 03Hex96 5* (-1) 10/* =what is Tttt? */
> 1575571710 411594 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Tttt14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=67685 5* 03Hex96 5* (+26) 10Created page with "Ttttt will bee coded soon."
< 1575571723 205956 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :bzzzt
< 1575571743 61800 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Do you bee code or do you bee funge?
< 1575571743 218217 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: who needs fictive horror stories when we have medicine... http://216.239.59.104/ search?q=cache:ifrvmgi6qmkj:www.cfwf.ca/ farmj/ fnord)
> 1575571756 680348 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Tttt14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67686&oldid=67684 5* 03Hex96 5* (+2) 10
> 1575571823 537163 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Hex9614]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67687&oldid=67682 5* 03Hex96 5* (+9) 10
< 1575571834 936571 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: That's a deeply unsettling observation.
< 1575571834 988407 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: ( define tolerance 0.000000001) 4
< 1575572076 444069 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-174.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I just checked, if I use the web edit interface on a file in /hackenv/tmp , then when I fetch, it mangles the non-ascii characters in the sense of reencoding it to iso-8859-1 to utf-8, which makes the file longer on each save
< 1575572087 153388 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-174.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: this isn't urgent, but could you please fix that?
< 1575572389 969359 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ᵏ
< 1575572390 924279 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+1D4F MODIFIER LETTER SMALL K]
< 1575572439 268663 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"MODIFIER"?!
< 1575572639 64005 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-174.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: yes, that means it's primarily for IPA-like pronunciation systems, where you suffix random superscripts to a letter to modify it
< 1575572676 894569 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-174.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or put crazy accents above or below it, including accents that aren't userd for anything but those pronunciation systems
< 1575572685 642146 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I see. It came up on ##math :-/
< 1575572698 92523 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(used as an exponent)
< 1575572719 4995 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :And of course it's rendered as a box here :)
< 1575573444 992782 :elliemae!~ellie@174.111.219.93 QUIT :Quit: Leaving
> 1575573686 548988 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Tttt14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67688&oldid=67685 5* 03Hex96 5* (+555) 10
> 1575573708 307680 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Tttt14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67689&oldid=67688 5* 03Hex96 5* (+0) 10
> 1575573776 613525 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Tttt14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67690&oldid=67689 5* 03Hex96 5* (+46) 10
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> 1575573901 171290 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Tttt14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67691&oldid=67690 5* 03Hex96 5* (+78) 10
> 1575573915 99906 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Tttt14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67692&oldid=67691 5* 03Hex96 5* (-1) 10
> 1575574510 315681 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Joke language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67693&oldid=67585 5* 03Hex96 5* (+59) 10/* General languages */
> 1575574565 530720 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Hex9614]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67694&oldid=67687 5* 03Int-e 5* (+323) 10nitfuck brainpicking
< 1575574889 708111 :MDude!~MDude@97-127-187-59.cdrr.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric
> 1575575364 144497 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Tttt14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67695&oldid=67686 5* 03Hex96 5* (+309) 10
> 1575575397 205201 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Tttt14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67696&oldid=67695 5* 03Hex96 5* (+0) 10/* Hello, World! */
> 1575575419 797576 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Tttt14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67697&oldid=67696 5* 03Hex96 5* (+31) 10/* Hello, World! */
> 1575576119 871526 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07A?!14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67698&oldid=66699 5* 03Dart 5* (+1330) 10
< 1575576327 593674 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-174.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`fetch /hackenv/bin/whatis https://hack.esolangs.org/get/bin/whatis
< 1575576328 761141 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :2019-12-05 20:05:28 URL:https://hack.esolangs.org/get/bin/whatis [1160/1160] -> "/hackenv/bin/whatis" [1]
< 1575576339 425414 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-174.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`whatis welcome
< 1575576340 336299 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :WELCOME(1hackeso) - welcome new user to irc channel, if they can't read lowercase letters \ WeLcOmE(1hackeso) - WeLcOmE NeW UsEr tO IrC ChAnNeL \ Welcome(1hackeso) - no description \ wElCoMe(1hackeso) - wElCoMe nEw uSeR To iRc cHaNnEl \ welcome(1hackeso) - welcome new user to irc channel
< 1575576343 209430 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-174.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`whatis sed
< 1575576344 94799 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :sed(1) - stream editor for filtering and transforming text \ sed(1p) - stream editor \ sed(1hackeso) - no description
< 1575576349 137469 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-174.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`whatis sed(hackeso)
< 1575576349 992277 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :sed(1hackeso) - no description
< 1575576351 965042 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-174.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`whatis sed()
< 1575576352 840660 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :sed(1) - stream editor for filtering and transforming text
< 1575576355 65362 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-174.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`whatis printf
< 1575576355 912150 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :printf(1) - format and print data \ printf(1p) - write formatted output \ printf(3) - formatted output conversion \ printf(3p) - print formatted output \ printf(3glibc) - Formatted Output Functions
< 1575576361 71408 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-174.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`whatis printf()
< 1575576365 532358 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :printf(1) - format and print data \ printf(3) - formatted output conversion
< 1575576367 958681 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-174.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`whatis printf(p)
< 1575576370 136582 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :printf(1p) - write formatted output \ printf(3p) - print formatted output
< 1575576370 987100 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-174.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`whatis printf(1)
< 1575576372 684597 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :printf(1) - format and print data
< 1575576374 315792 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-174.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`whatis printf(1p)
< 1575576375 545223 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :printf(1p) - write formatted output
< 1575576385 977919 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-174.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`whatis Welcome(hackeso)
< 1575576386 832536 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :welcome(1hackeso) - welcome new user to irc channel
< 1575576413 685365 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`whatis PRIVMSG
> 1575576414 227329 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07A?!14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67699&oldid=67698 5* 03Dart 5* (+59) 10
< 1575576414 744208 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :PRIVMSG: nothing appropriate.
< 1575576421 179702 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-174.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatis now takes a suffix or number category plus suffix in parenthesis after a word, in which case the lookup is restricted to that suffix or category plus suffix, and the search is case sensitive
< 1575576436 480337 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-174.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: the next step is that I'll make an addwhatis command to add whatis entries
< 1575576448 144578 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-174.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :because we're missing some and don't have a convenient way to add them or edit them
< 1575576461 936575 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-174.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :in particular, we need an entry for whatis(1hackeso)
< 1575576473 961371 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-174.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`whatis ?
< 1575576474 948316 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​?(1hackeso) - print wisdom by name \ ?(8lambdabot) - compose tree of lambdabot commands
< 1575576477 293377 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-174.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`whatis ?(hackeso)
< 1575576478 181402 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​?(1hackeso) - print wisdom by name
< 1575576578 434492 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-174.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it will also need a switch to remove a whatis entry
< 1575576651 341372 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-174.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`whatis welcome
< 1575576652 212309 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :WELCOME(1hackeso) - welcome new user to irc channel, if they can't read lowercase letters \ WeLcOmE(1hackeso) - WeLcOmE NeW UsEr tO IrC ChAnNeL \ Welcome(1hackeso) - no description \ wElCoMe(1hackeso) - wElCoMe nEw uSeR To iRc cHaNnEl \ welcome(1hackeso) - welcome new user to irc channel
< 1575576655 425368 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-174.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`whatis welcome(hackeso)
< 1575576656 432696 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :welcome(1hackeso) - welcome new user to irc channel
< 1575577633 622882 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-174.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what should be the option letter to delete entries rather than add?
< 1575577731 809020 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-174.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or should that be an entirely separate executable?
< 1575577913 515165 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-174.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I could just make it delete a whatis if you only give the name and category with no (space hyphen space body) after
< 1575577950 680360 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-174.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, that's what I'll do
< 1575579688 833397 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-174.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`fetch /hackenv/bin/addwhatis https://hack.esolangs.org/get/bin/addwhatis
< 1575579689 980305 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :2019-12-05 21:01:29 URL:https://hack.esolangs.org/get/bin/addwhatis [1814/1814] -> "/hackenv/bin/addwhatis" [1]
< 1575579693 329375 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-174.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`whatis whatis
< 1575579694 212651 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatis(1) - display one-line manual page descriptions
< 1575579727 581677 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-174.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addwhatis whatis(1hackeso) - display one-line manual page descriptions
< 1575579729 392958 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :addwhatis? Permission denied
< 1575579743 271792 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-174.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` chmod -c a+x /hackenv/bin/addwhatis
< 1575579745 417178 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :mode of '/hackenv/bin/addwhatis' changed from 0644 (rw-r--r--) to 0755 (rwxr-xr-x)
< 1575579749 165375 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-174.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addwhatis whatis(1hackeso) - display one-line manual page descriptions
< 1575579751 421340 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :addwhatis: added 'whatis(1hackeso)'
< 1575579754 806926 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-174.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`whatis whatis
< 1575579755 712836 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatis(1) - display one-line manual page descriptions \ whatis(1hackeso) - display one-line manual page descriptions
< 1575579760 277354 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-174.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`whatis whatis(1hackeso)
< 1575579761 244422 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatis(1hackeso) - display one-line manual page descriptions
< 1575579793 861377 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-174.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addwhatis addwhatis(1hackeso) - modify the database of one-line manual page descriptions
< 1575579796 140625 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :addwhatis: added 'addwhatis(1hackeso)'
< 1575579801 249354 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-174.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`whatis @
< 1575579802 184419 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​@(1hackeso) - no description \ @(8lambdabot) - compose tree of lambdabot commands
< 1575579839 353372 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-174.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addwhatis @(1hackeso) - run a command but address an irc user with the output
< 1575579843 676439 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :addwhatis: replaced '@(1hackeso)'
< 1575579851 648622 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-174.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`@wib_jonas whatis @
< 1575579853 78942 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​@wib_jonas? No such file or directory
< 1575579855 773380 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-174.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`@ wib_jonas whatis @
< 1575579856 772533 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :wib_jonas: @(1hackeso) - run a command but address an irc user with the output \ @(8lambdabot) - compose tree of lambdabot commands
< 1575579956 817352 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-174.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`Welcome
< 1575579958 86182 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :Welcome To The International Hub For Esoteric Programming Language Design And Deployment! For More Information, Check Out Our Wiki: <Https://Esolangs.Org/>. (For The Other Kind Of Esoterica, Try #Esoteric On EFnet Or DALnet.)
< 1575579961 53980 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-174.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`whatis welcome
< 1575579964 860900 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :WELCOME(1hackeso) - welcome new user to irc channel, if they can't read lowercase letters \ WeLcOmE(1hackeso) - WeLcOmE NeW UsEr tO IrC ChAnNeL \ Welcome(1hackeso) - no description \ wElCoMe(1hackeso) - wElCoMe nEw uSeR To iRc cHaNnEl \ welcome(1hackeso) - welcome new user to irc channel
< 1575579982 485577 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-174.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addwhatis Welcome(1hackeso) - Welcome New User To Irc Channel
< 1575579984 664475 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :addwhatis: replaced 'Welcome(1hackeso)'
< 1575579994 74964 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-174.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :^list
< 1575579994 92202 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb atriq Ngevd Fiora nortti Sgeo ThatOtherPerson alot
< 1575579999 220723 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-174.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no
< 1575580015 734847 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-174.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :^help
< 1575580015 741483 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :^<lang> <code>; ^def <command> <lang> <code>; ^show [command]; lang=bf/ul, code=text/str:N; ^str 0-9 get/set/add [text]; ^style [style]; ^bool
< 1575580017 879097 :ArthurStrong!~ArthurStr@slow.wreckage.volia.net QUIT :Quit: leaving
< 1575580019 237735 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-174.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :^show
< 1575580019 244776 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo reverb rev rot13 rev2 fib wc ul cho choo pow2 source help hw srmlebac uenlsbcmra scramble unscramble asc ord prefixes tmp test celebrate wiki chr ha rainbow rainbow2 welcome me tell eval elikoski list ping def a thanks tmp2 8ball rreree rerere botsnack bf quine fdip 
< 1575580268 53794 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-174.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :TODO: add non-builtin fungot commands to whatis
< 1575580268 214958 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: i rather think ruby succeeds at those and is quite incoherent. with a hard drive a lot. that's why there are so many...?
< 1575582450 585395 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-174.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ruby
< 1575582451 800867 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ruby is a programming language from Japan, that eventually decided to support non-ascii characters.
< 1575582472 507266 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-174.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should that mention that ruby is quite incoherent?
> 1575582677 592343 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Intcode14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=67700 5* 03JonoCode9374 5* (+3065) 10Created page with "'''Intcode''' is an esoteric programming language created purely to annoy programmers competing in the [https://adventofcode.com/ Advent of Code 2019]. It was featured on days..."
> 1575582740 808316 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Intcode14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67701&oldid=67700 5* 03JonoCode9374 5* (-2) 10
< 1575585963 768010 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-174.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addwhatis asmbf(1hackeso) - no description
< 1575585970 652788 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :addwhatis: added 'asmbf(1hackeso)'
< 1575585972 90377 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-174.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addwhatis asmbfx(1hackeso) - no description
< 1575585975 996074 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :addwhatis: added 'asmbfx(1hackeso)'
> 1575585980 636215 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Technical Limitations 5*  10New user account
< 1575585981 809363 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-174.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addwhatis bfasm(1hackeso) - no description
< 1575585983 964380 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :addwhatis: added 'bfasm(1hackeso)'
< 1575586010 109370 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-174.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addwhatis bfi(1hackeso) - no description
< 1575586012 304181 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :addwhatis: added 'bfi(1hackeso)'
> 1575587151 586804 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67702&oldid=67620 5* 03Technical Limitations 5* (+247) 10
> 1575587198 342363 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07LISP14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67703&oldid=67589 5* 03Technical Limitations 5* (+2) 10Changed redirect target from [[Lisp]] to [[Lisp2d]]
> 1575587945 492128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Aargh14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=67704 5* 03Technical Limitations 5* (+19) 10Redirected page to [[Argh!]]
< 1575588579 982596 :tromp!~tromp@2a02:a210:1585:3200:183d:87a1:95ff:b035 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds
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< 1575588992 961705 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: That's probably fixable, I'm guessing it's just a wrong content-type thing somewhere. I did also look at whether it could be made properly binary-safe, and that seemed harder. Unless I define some sort of encoding for what gets presented in the form form.
< 1575589110 698486 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-174.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: for more binary safe, you could an option between utf-8 and iso-8859-1 encoding
< 1575589132 268158 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-174.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure if it would be entirely binary safe, a browser will likely still mangle some things
< 1575589192 652201 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-174.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :in any case, we no longer need to `edit /share/whatis because I added a command for that
< 1575589216 688448 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-174.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's an easy case, because whatises are supposed to be all short lines
< 1575589228 757390 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-174.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addwhatis wisdom(5hackeso) - no description
< 1575589231 188556 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :addwhatis: added 'wisdom(5hackeso)'
< 1575589233 381376 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-174.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addwhatis tmflry(5hackeso) - no description
< 1575589235 697192 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :addwhatis: added 'tmflry(5hackeso)'
< 1575589237 621430 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-174.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addwhatis quotes(5hackeso) - no description
< 1575589239 684174 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :addwhatis: added 'quotes(5hackeso)'
< 1575589240 677660 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-174.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addwhatis whatis(5hackeso) - no description
< 1575589242 912420 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :addwhatis: added 'whatis(5hackeso)'
< 1575589391 513370 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-174.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`whatis c
< 1575589392 416279 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :c(1egobot) - no description
< 1575589395 273424 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-174.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`whatis brachylog
< 1575589396 80124 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :brachylog: nothing appropriate.
< 1575589472 381359 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-174.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addwhatis brachylog(1egobot) - Brachylog, a Prolog-like golf language
< 1575589474 512191 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :addwhatis: added 'brachylog(1egobot)'
< 1575589607 145362 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-174.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`whatis cc
< 1575589608 76302 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :cc(1hackeso) - no description
< 1575589647 857386 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-174.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is a rather ugly name, shadowing another standard utility
< 1575589708 797360 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-174.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`whatis t
< 1575589709 668314 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :t: nothing appropriate.
< 1575589731 293378 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-174.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addwhatis t(1hackeso) - run a command with the working directory set to /hackenv
< 1575589733 536210 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :addwhatis: added 't(1hackeso)'
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< 1575592821 627571 :LKoen!~LKoen@81.255.219.130 QUIT :Quit: “It’s only logical. First you learn to talk, then you learn to think. Too bad it’s not the other way round.”
> 1575593303 263368 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Deadfish14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67705&oldid=67609 5* 03JonoCode9374 5* (+501) 10/* Java */
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< 1575596664 460096 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1575596848 409445 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1575597025 803529 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds
< 1575597029 896183 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 NICK :Lord_of_Life
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> 1575597779 129751 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 delete10 02 5* 03Oerjan 5*  10deleted "[[02LISP10]]": Broken redirect: Lisp is not generally considered esoteric. No useful place to point this redirect currently exists on this wiki, so just delete.
< 1575597799 872381 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
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< 1575598357 752821 :elliemae!~ellie@69.151.205.241 QUIT :Quit: Leaving
> 1575598647 850416 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Joke language list14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67706&oldid=67693 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+3) 10Orst and fix name
< 1575598745 367131 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
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> 1575599364 152368 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User talk:Hex9614]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67707&oldid=67635 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+2192) 10Editing of other people's user pages is generally discouraged, so I'm moving stuff to the talk page (yeah it's a paradox).
< 1575599364 525066 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
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> 1575599438 755350 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Hex9614]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67708&oldid=67694 5* 03Oerjan 5* (-2066) 10Editing of other people's user pages is generally discouraged, so I'm moving stuff to the talk page (yeah it's a paradox).
> 1575599612 7316 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User talk:Hex9614]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67709&oldid=67707 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+2) 10Move signatures to end of contributions
< 1575600257 740474 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
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> 1575600332 991287 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User talk:Hex9614]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67710&oldid=67709 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+138) 10Add unsigned for the moved content that was made by talk page owner, indent for threading
< 1575600391 682161 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was a mess
> 1575601234 877091 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Burn14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67711&oldid=67680 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+289) 10/* One-eyed representations */ Colors?
< 1575601516 89278 :nchamber-!uplime@learnprogramming/staff/nchambers NICK :nchambers
> 1575601655 685700 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Burn14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67712&oldid=67711 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+133) 10Fix indents and lost section title, and add unsigned
< 1575602063 964274 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
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< 1575602603 926438 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.14.86.dynamic.ufanet.ru JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1575607262 689380 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`undo 12128
< 1575607265 872425 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :patching file karma \ Hunk #1 FAILED at 1. \ 1 out of 1 hunk FAILED -- saving rejects to file karma.rej
< 1575607313 912395 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm...
< 1575607323 110729 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`dobg karma
< 1575607331 884808 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :12123:2019-11-17 <fizzïe> slbd karma//s|lib/|${HACKENV-/hackenv}/lib/| \ 0:2012-02-16 Initïal import.
< 1575607339 702941 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait
< 1575607343 805368 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`dobg karma+
< 1575607345 588440 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :12126:2019-11-17 <fizzïe> ` for d in + -; do sed -i -e \'s|tee karma|tee ${HACKENV-/hackenv}/karma|\' /hackenv/bin/karma$d; done \ 12124:2019-11-17 <fizzïe> slbd karma+//s|lib/|${HACKENV-/hackenv}/lib/| \ 0:2012-02-16 Initïal import.
< 1575607394 249237 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hum how long ago is that...
< 1575607412 81734 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :19 days
< 1575607540 988462 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh.
< 1575607550 250422 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's always been broken
< 1575607669 916665 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hum why does karma show up for karma+ in dobg
< 1575607689 189360 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait
< 1575607747 972669 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :12124 is not in the browser list
< 1575607761 381187 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or wait
< 1575607806 243509 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :never mind i was on an old revision and didn't realize file log restricted to that
< 1575607846 573393 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`which tee
< 1575607847 404771 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/usr/bin/tee
< 1575607919 999936 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i see duh
< 1575608024 40648 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION less confused now
< 1575608035 833361 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`karma hppavilion[1]
< 1575608042 676544 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :hppavilion[1] has 0 karma.
< 1575608055 200561 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course.
< 1575608061 81377 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`karma oren
< 1575608066 408222 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :oren has 1 karma.
< 1575608082 787194 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a bit slow
< 1575608133 713356 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`karma GregoR
< 1575608139 708239 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregoR has 1 karma.
< 1575608176 520802 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1575608214 703683 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric
< 1575608815 844321 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
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< 1575609526 388522 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1575609561 366560 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric
< 1575610762 641927 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-klzzwcgpxuctonif JOIN :#esoteric
< 1575611417 410007 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1575611468 583787 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric
< 1575611506 967122 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1575611774 694639 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric
< 1575612890 101656 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode JOIN :#esoteric
< 1575612912 989502 :tromp!~tromp@2a02:a210:1585:3200:5193:c267:f39e:fca1 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1575613175 988160 :tromp!~tromp@2a02:a210:1585:3200:5193:c267:f39e:fca1 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds
< 1575613847 311510 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1575613898 917965 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric
> 1575614006 973187 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Tttt14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67713&oldid=67697 5* 03Hex96 5* (+9) 10/* Hello, World! */
< 1575614112 166167 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`karma HackEso
< 1575614118 643950 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEso has 0 karma.
< 1575614629 313361 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`karma HackEgo
< 1575614634 652543 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo has 0 karma.
< 1575614640 333384 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`karma
< 1575614648 375941 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cbt karma
< 1575614651 964020 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ echo "$1 has $(${HACKENV-/hackenv}/lib/karma "$1") karma."
< 1575614656 160879 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ has 0 karma.
< 1575614681 221375 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`t cat lib/karma
< 1575614681 988226 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ count () { \     hg log --template '{desc}\n' | \     egrep '<[^]]*> karma\'$1 | \     fgrep -vix "<$2> karma$1 $2" | \     cut -d' ' -f3 | \     fgrep -cix "$2" \ } \ plus=$(count + "$1") \ minus=$(count - "$1") \ echo $(($plus-$minus))
< 1575614748 177347 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cbt karma+
< 1575614748 912863 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ echo "$1 now has $(($(${HACKENV-/hackenv}/lib/karma "$1")+1)) karma." | tee ${HACKENV-/hackenv}/karma
< 1575614751 127449 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cbt karma-
< 1575614751 816121 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ touch karma \ echo "$1 now has $(($(${HACKENV-/hackenv}/lib/karma "$1")-1)) karma."
< 1575614765 499053 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What a bizarro system.
< 1575616229 646888 :tromp!~tromp@2a02:a210:1585:3200:5193:c267:f39e:fca1 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1575616497 661548 :tromp!~tromp@2a02:a210:1585:3200:5193:c267:f39e:fca1 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds
< 1575616728 474505 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1575617152 18532 :tromp!~tromp@2a02:a210:1585:3200:5193:c267:f39e:fca1 JOIN :#esoteric
> 1575617600 228981 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Flux3on14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=67714 5* 03Flux3on 5* (+12) 10Created page with "I'm here now"
< 1575617697 98911 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds
< 1575618023 649856 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`karma fizzie
< 1575618029 532489 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie has 2 karma.
< 1575618087 908600 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i see
< 1575618138 576565 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i doubt karma- works
< 1575618523 431977 :tromp!~tromp@2a02:a210:1585:3200:5193:c267:f39e:fca1 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1575618560 505391 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slbd karma-//2d;$s,$, | tee ${HACKENV-/hackenv}/karma,
< 1575618562 695442 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :karma-//#!/bin/sh \ echo "$1 now has $(($(${HACKENV-/hackenv}/lib/karma "$1")-1)) karma." \  | tee ${HACKENV-/hackenv}/karma
< 1575618567 784461 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops
< 1575618592 577480 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert
< 1575618593 517524 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done.
< 1575618614 185399 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slbd karma-//2d;3s,$, | tee ${HACKENV-/hackenv}/karma,
< 1575618625 94489 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :karma-//#!/bin/sh \ echo "$1 now has $(($(${HACKENV-/hackenv}/lib/karma "$1")-1)) karma." | tee ${HACKENV-/hackenv}/karma
< 1575618644 644675 :tromp!~tromp@2a02:a210:1585:3200:5193:c267:f39e:fca1 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1575618800 201381 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`t sled lib/karma//s/egrep.*>/egrep -x '<[^>]*>/
< 1575618802 660617 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :lib/karma//#!/bin/sh \ count () { \     hg log --template '{desc}\n' | \     egrep -x '<[^>]*> karma\'$1 | \     fgrep -vix "<$2> karma$1 $2" | \     cut -d' ' -f3 | \     fgrep -cix "$2" \ } \ plus=$(count + "$1") \ minus=$(count - "$1") \ echo $(($plus-$minus))
< 1575618875 129380 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`karma fizzie
< 1575618880 712117 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie has 0 karma.
< 1575618883 299023 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmph
< 1575618895 120575 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok fine
< 1575618897 169347 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert
< 1575618898 94858 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done.
< 1575619216 584915 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh
< 1575619499 845371 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`t sled lib/karma//s/egrep.*>/egrep '^<[^>]*>/
< 1575619505 781273 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :lib/karma//#!/bin/sh \ count () { \     hg log --template '{desc}\n' | \     egrep '^<[^>]*> karma\'$1 | \     fgrep -vix "<$2> karma$1 $2" | \     cut -d' ' -f3 | \     fgrep -cix "$2" \ } \ plus=$(count + "$1") \ minus=$(count - "$1") \ echo $(($plus-$minus))
< 1575619517 145419 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`karma fizzie
< 1575619522 761119 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie has 2 karma.
< 1575619743 965149 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-klzzwcgpxuctonif QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity
< 1575620780 566546 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-irzvpntwbpvssisy JOIN :#esoteric
> 1575622051 442139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Tttt14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67715&oldid=67692 5* 03Hex96 5* (-374) 10
> 1575623937 874659 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Burn14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67716&oldid=67712 5* 03Dart 5* (+505) 10
< 1575624100 918282 :hppavilion[2]!~omegasome@172.98.86.92 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1575624100 968293 :hppavilion[1]!~omegasome@172.98.86.92 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1575624356 618547 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-174.catv.broadband.hu QUIT :Quit: leaving
< 1575624384 291335 :hppavilion[1]!~omegasome@172.98.86.92 QUIT :Client Quit
> 1575627095 207392 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Burn14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67717&oldid=67716 5* 03Hex96 5* (+71) 10/* Attempted programs */
< 1575627626 313137 :sprinkles!~sprinkles@unaffiliated/sprinkls JOIN :#esoteric
< 1575628047 423302 :sprinkles!~sprinkles@unaffiliated/sprinkls PART :#esoteric
< 1575628143 956432 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-irzvpntwbpvssisy QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity
> 1575629030 965233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Noner Kao/TaiDoku14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67718&oldid=53923 5* 03Dart 5* (-15) 10Changed redirect target from [[User:Noner Kao/TaiDoKu]] to [[TaiDoKu]]
> 1575629122 736781 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Sgeo/Trustfuck14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67719&oldid=35429 5* 03Dart 5* (+1) 10Changed redirect target from [[Trustfuck]] to [[Braintrust]]
> 1575629494 822076 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67720&oldid=67501 5* 03Dart 5* (+10) 10/* A */
< 1575630002 594610 :kritixilithos!~kritixili@gateway/tor-sasl/kritixilithos JOIN :#esoteric
> 1575630150 250654 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07TaiDoKu14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67721&oldid=54087 5* 03Oerjan 5* (-22) 10fix unnecessary redirect
> 1575630217 612194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 delete10 02 5* 03Oerjan 5*  10deleted "[[02User:Noner Kao/TaiDoKu10]]": Unnecessary redirect after move from userspace
> 1575630390 441415 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 delete10 02 5* 03Oerjan 5*  10deleted "[[02User:Noner Kao/TaiDoku10]]": No incoming links and page has been moved from user space, content was: "#REDIRECT [[TaiDoKu]]"
< 1575630502 596866 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Later
< 1575634419 425786 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there an actual esolang called dart or is somebody just mentioning the real dart?
< 1575634625 361115 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1575634636 142914 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's a censored swearword
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> 1575638454 427664 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Emi 5*  10New user account
< 1575638715 590515 :YamTokTpaFa!6f60d232@KD111096210050.ppp-bb.dion.ne.jp JOIN :#esoteric
< 1575638719 205280 :YamTokTpaFa!6f60d232@KD111096210050.ppp-bb.dion.ne.jp PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi.
< 1575638723 278052 :YamTokTpaFa!6f60d232@KD111096210050.ppp-bb.dion.ne.jp PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's night here.
< 1575638737 848088 :YamTokTpaFa!6f60d232@KD111096210050.ppp-bb.dion.ne.jp PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, whatever. Today I am here to bring a topic again.
< 1575638744 884430 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esoteric :☺
> 1575638746 55885 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67722&oldid=67702 5* 03Emi 5* (+200) 10/* Introductions */
< 1575638757 640271 :YamTokTpaFa!6f60d232@KD111096210050.ppp-bb.dion.ne.jp PRIVMSG #esoteric :First of all I'd like you to see these... wait what?
< 1575638773 306253 :YamTokTpaFa!6f60d232@KD111096210050.ppp-bb.dion.ne.jp PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aha, that's an editing log.
> 1575638778 47372 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Intcode14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67723&oldid=67701 5* 03Emi 5* (+36) 10Add opcode 99 to opcode table
< 1575638792 540181 :YamTokTpaFa!6f60d232@KD111096210050.ppp-bb.dion.ne.jp PRIVMSG #esoteric :Back on the topic, I see two articles: Y and Y (programming language).
< 1575638794 436801 :YamTokTpaFa!6f60d232@KD111096210050.ppp-bb.dion.ne.jp PRIVMSG #esoteric :They are:
< 1575638821 345250 :YamTokTpaFa!6f60d232@KD111096210050.ppp-bb.dion.ne.jp PRIVMSG #esoteric :<<https://esolangs.org/wiki/Y>> and <<https://esolangs.org/wiki/Y_(programming_language)>>. Aren't they confusing?
< 1575638871 709792 :YamTokTpaFa!6f60d232@KD111096210050.ppp-bb.dion.ne.jp PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though I put {{Distinguish/Confused}} on both pages, but I think we should discuss how we gotta rename the two pages.
< 1575638889 832784 :YamTokTpaFa!6f60d232@KD111096210050.ppp-bb.dion.ne.jp PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Confusion
< 1575638972 757888 :YamTokTpaFa!6f60d232@KD111096210050.ppp-bb.dion.ne.jp PRIVMSG #esoteric :...should I bring the topic on talk page, not here?
< 1575638984 274766 :YamTokTpaFa!6f60d232@KD111096210050.ppp-bb.dion.ne.jp PRIVMSG #esoteric :* have I
< 1575638991 801257 :YamTokTpaFa!6f60d232@KD111096210050.ppp-bb.dion.ne.jp PRIVMSG #esoteric :*have I brought
> 1575639240 957900 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Y (programming language)14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=67724 5* 03YamTokTpaFa 5* (+526) 10Created page with "== Renaming [[Y]] and [[Y (programming language)]]? == The issue is that they share one name and their article names may confuse readers. My suggestion is: former one should b..."
< 1575639382 598815 :YamTokTpaFa!6f60d232@KD111096210050.ppp-bb.dion.ne.jp PRIVMSG #esoteric :also sorry if I were to have messed this place.
< 1575639385 517900 :YamTokTpaFa!6f60d232@KD111096210050.ppp-bb.dion.ne.jp PART :#esoteric
< 1575640103 453841 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1575640235 393369 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds
< 1575640235 641667 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 NICK :Lord_of_Life
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< 1575640599 784096 :rustik!~rustik@179-194-36-78.baltnet.ru QUIT :Excess Flood
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< 1575640614 798551 :rustik!~rustik@179-194-36-78.baltnet.ru QUIT :Excess Flood
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< 1575640763 297966 :rustik!~rustik@179-194-36-78.baltnet.ru QUIT :Excess Flood
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< 1575642692 50485 :rustik!~rustik@179-194-36-78.baltnet.ru QUIT :Excess Flood
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< 1575642846 868139 :rustik!~rustik@179-194-36-78.baltnet.ru QUIT :Excess Flood
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< 1575643126 121093 :rustik!~rustik@179-194-36-78.baltnet.ru QUIT :Excess Flood
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< 1575643159 177376 :rustik!~rustik@179-194-36-78.baltnet.ru QUIT :Excess Flood
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< 1575643337 407179 :rustik!~rustik@179-194-36-78.baltnet.ru QUIT :Excess Flood
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< 1575643500 244149 :rustik!~rustik@179-194-36-78.baltnet.ru QUIT :Excess Flood
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< 1575643764 976195 :rustik!~rustik@179-194-36-78.baltnet.ru QUIT :Excess Flood
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< 1575644154 506314 :rustik!~rustik@179-194-36-78.baltnet.ru QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
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< 1575644188 148351 :rustik!~rustik@179-194-36-78.baltnet.ru QUIT :Excess Flood
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< 1575644218 121371 :rustik!~rustik@179-194-36-78.baltnet.ru QUIT :Excess Flood
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> 1575655844 819314 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Ttttt14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=67725 5* 03Hex96 5* (+218) 10Created page with "Now if you want to know how Ttttt works, go to [[Tttt]], because who doesnt like go to statements. The only difference between [[Tttt]] and [[Ttttt]] is that [[Tttt]] has t..."
> 1575655962 814145 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Ttttt14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67726&oldid=67725 5* 03Hex96 5* (+378) 10
> 1575656017 611125 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Hex9614]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67727&oldid=67708 5* 03Hex96 5* (+53) 10
> 1575656056 934110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Hex9614]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67728&oldid=67727 5* 03Hex96 5* (+2) 10
> 1575656086 42634 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Hex9614]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67729&oldid=67728 5* 03Hex96 5* (-51) 10
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> 1575660859 578218 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:DmilkaSTD14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67730&oldid=67670 5* 03DmilkaSTD 5* (+506) 10
> 1575661003 583670 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Code is eso14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67731&oldid=67669 5* 03DmilkaSTD 5* (-1) 10
> 1575661096 247024 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Esomachine14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67732&oldid=67672 5* 03DmilkaSTD 5* (-51) 10
> 1575661140 637451 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:DmilkaSTD14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67733&oldid=67730 5* 03DmilkaSTD 5* (-1) 10
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> 1575667331 484184 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Esomachine14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67734&oldid=67614 5* 03Dart 5* (+177) 10
> 1575667387 602351 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Esomachine14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67735&oldid=67732 5* 03Dart 5* (-48) 10
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> 1575674082 707143 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Bubbles14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=67736 5* 03IFcoltransG 5* (+2888) 10Created page with "'''Bubbles''' (not to be confused with [[Bubble]]) has only one datatype: the unordered collection, which are called bubbles. However, it does not have a Wikipedia: Choice f..."
> 1575674148 75385 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Bubbles14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67737&oldid=67736 5* 03IFcoltransG 5* (+0) 10
> 1575674275 356120 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Bubbles14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=67738 5* 03IFcoltransG 5* (+214) 10Created page with "This language was designed by the unofficial Esolangs Discord, but we don't own it. Feel free to contribute your ideas. ~~~~"
> 1575674386 434740 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Bubbles14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67739&oldid=67737 5* 03IFcoltransG 5* (+0) 10Fixed conditional.
> 1575675543 259327 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67740&oldid=67720 5* 03IFcoltransG 5* (+14) 10/* B */ + Bubbles
> 1575675684 329467 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Bubbles14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67741&oldid=67739 5* 03IFcoltransG 5* (+116) 10Added categories
< 1575675988 28803 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The Northumberland market town of Hexham has been crowned the happiest place to live in Great Britain, topping Rightmove’s 2019 Happy at Home Index"
< 1575676160 538113 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-45.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hexham
< 1575676162 571439 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hexham es la ciudad mas importante de programación esotérico.
< 1575676188 357366 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`grWp hexham
< 1575676189 292376 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :english channel:If it existed, the English Channel would separate Hexham from Finland. \ fentimans:fentimans is a delicious beverage out from Hexham, that can be paired with a fresh fternooner for a nutritive midday snack. \ ham:Ham is a kind of meat. It is popular in Hexham, among other places. \ helsinki:Helsinki is the capital of Finland. Its main suburb is Hexham, Northumberland. \ hexchat:Hexchat is a variant of Smalltalk invented in Hexh
< 1575676391 505367 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-45.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` grep -REi hexham /hackenv/wisdom 
< 1575676392 544321 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/wisdom/hexchat:Hexchat is a variant of Smalltalk invented in Hexham. \ /hackenv/wisdom/wegian:A wegian is an equivalence class of #esoteric regulars. There are two main wegians, the Nor (from Finland) and the Glas (from Hexham). There's also the hypothetical Gal, which hasn't been observed yet so we're not sure where it's from. \ /hackenv/wisdom/ham:Ham is a kind of meat. It is popular in Hexham, among other places. \ /hackenv/wisd
< 1575676408 629428 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-45.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` grep -REi hexham /hackenv/wisdom | tail -n+3
< 1575676409 772446 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/wisdom/ham:Ham is a kind of meat. It is popular in Hexham, among other places. \ /hackenv/wisdom/fentimans:fentimans is a delicious beverage out from Hexham, that can be paired with a fresh fternooner for a nutritive midday snack. \ /hackenv/wisdom/english channel:If it existed, the English Channel would separate Hexham from Finland. \ /hackenv/wisdom/hexham:Hexham es la ciudad mas importante de programación esotérico. \ /hackenv
< 1575677913 301758 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-45.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ 1880%99
< 1575677913 922821 :j-bot!eldis4@firefly.nu PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: 18.9899
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> 1575678707 718781 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Gregorovich14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67742&oldid=64483 5* 03IFcoltransG 5* (-3) 10/* How It Works */ Typos
> 1575679199 407959 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Treeng14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67743&oldid=66191 5* 03IFcoltransG 5* (+10) 10Fixed category
> 1575679267 116105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Treeng14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67744&oldid=67743 5* 03IFcoltransG 5* (-1) 10Fixed typo
> 1575679325 830462 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Arch14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67745&oldid=67364 5* 03IFcoltransG 5* (+17) 10Shifted from Concepts to Data Types and Structures category
> 1575679903 813032 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Church numeral14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67746&oldid=13147 5* 03IFcoltransG 5* (+214) 10Reorganised slightly, + added some info
> 1575679928 912731 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Church numeral14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67747&oldid=67746 5* 03IFcoltransG 5* (-2) 10Fixed my category addition
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> 1575681235 664892 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Punctree14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67748&oldid=63903 5* 03IFcoltransG 5* (+2) 10Fixed word conflation
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> 1575681317 770938 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Punctree14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67749&oldid=67748 5* 03IFcoltransG 5* (-2) 10Undo revision 67748 by [[Special:Contributions/IFcoltransG|IFcoltransG]] ([[User talk:IFcoltransG|talk]]) I just realised it's a pun
> 1575681586 443990 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Bubble14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67750&oldid=65420 5* 03IFcoltransG 5* (+38) 10Added "not to be confused with Bubbles"
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< 1575683269 996448 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`t 5 t w
< 1575683274 196656 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :1/2:nvg//NVG is a student computer club in Trondheim, whose servers are frequently infiltrated by oerjan. Not to be confused with nvd. \ rholypoly//A rholypoly is an edible Greek species of Armadillidiidae. Goes well with garlic! \ sgdq//SGDQ is Summer Games Done Quick, an annual video games speedrunning event for charity every summer, see http://gamesdonequick.com and https://gamesdonequick.com/tracker/events/ \ icbm//ICBMs are Crumbl
< 1575683277 130338 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1575683281 61365 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`n
< 1575683284 695399 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :2/2:ing Building Missiles. The I is currently classified. \ cream//Cream is what milk turns into once you beat it into submission.
< 1575683286 586630 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? nvd
< 1575683289 937660 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :nvd is what Taneb calls himself when he wants to feel professional.
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< 1575689176 145154 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-7.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I played Scrabble and once accidentally put "A" where I meant to put "N", forming an invalid word (WIZEA instead of WIZEN). However, the error was not noticed until it was too late, so we didn't correct it, and the only word crossing it was AA (instead of AN; both words are valid), and I was left at the end with only my N unplayed, so the score comes out the same way anyways!
< 1575689215 447202 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-7.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I also won anyways, and would have done even if I had deducted the score for my error.)
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< 1575693289 404108 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Oh, I see why I was getting duplicate clauses.
< 1575693303 563483 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was generating a new clause without verifying that both of its watched literals are actually unassigned.
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< 1575693510 101639 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, and I don't even handle unit clauses at all (since I never add them to watchlists), so there's no reason to expect learned unit clauses to work?
< 1575693516 225692 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Man, this is completely broken.
< 1575695226 670462 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Clause learning is trickier than I thought!
< 1575695230 714685 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So many fidgety details.
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< 1575696650 956118 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :When you learn a unit clause, do people just backtrack all the way to the beginning, or what?
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< 1575704790 554109 :kritixilithos!~kritixili@gateway/tor-sasl/kritixilithos PRIVMSG #esoteric :sed is tc without s, http://sprunge.us/Hi59cv
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< 1575705047 39749 :kritixilithos!~kritixili@gateway/tor-sasl/kritixilithos PRIVMSG #esoteric :now is it possible without both s and y? you can only have newlines, so the data-string can be stored in unary representing a base-3 number that encodes the data-string (0=>nothing,1=>0,2=>1), and then you'd have to consider the endianness
< 1575705201 984317 :tromp!~tromp@2a02:a210:1585:3200:7963:1387:c8cb:cdae QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds
< 1575705249 178416 :kritixilithos!~kritixili@gateway/tor-sasl/kritixilithos PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it was first-bit = most-significant digit of base-3 number, then it can easily be multiplied by 3 and can be appended with the appropriate bits, but checking for the most-significant-bit is not possible (I think) using posix regexp
< 1575705365 196347 :kritixilithos!~kritixili@gateway/tor-sasl/kritixilithos PRIVMSG #esoteric :if the endianness was reversed, the first-bit can be checked by checking the residue of the number mod 3, trivial, but now appending bits requires you to find the smallest power of 3 larger than the number, which might not be possible with only the pattern and hold space
< 1575705500 540412 :kritixilithos!~kritixili@gateway/tor-sasl/kritixilithos PRIVMSG #esoteric :or choose a better reduction/more clever encoding
< 1575705872 644285 :kritixilithos!~kritixili@gateway/tor-sasl/kritixilithos PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually in the base-3 encoding, you need some way of storing the current production, so maybe it should be base-n, with n depending on the number of productions
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> 1575707658 930503 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Rigidity 5*  10New user account
> 1575708208 801865 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67751&oldid=67722 5* 03Rigidity 5* (+257) 10/* Introductions */
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> 1575710386 214709 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Zed14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=67752 5* 03Rigidity 5* (+1959) 10Created page with "== Zed Language == Zed is a language consisting of a total of 32 distinct symbols. A program consists of commands, as well as nested loops, scopes, threads, variables, and fun..."
> 1575710440 329847 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67753&oldid=67740 5* 03Rigidity 5* (+10) 10/* Non-alphabetic */
> 1575710490 948025 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67754&oldid=67753 5* 03Rigidity 5* (+10) 10/* Z */
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< 1575713076 16529 :kspalaiologos2!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait a second, why my nickname is used
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< 1575713924 885386 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? TC
< 1575713926 88177 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tc is the abbreviation for Technetium, an element so sophisticated that it does not exist naturally.
< 1575714015 833023 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :TC is technically correct, it is the best kind of correct (ISBKC)
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> 1575718622 462769 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Zed14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67755&oldid=67752 5* 03IFcoltransG 5* (+6) 10Replaced "VERTICAL BAR" with actual properly escaped "|"
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> 1575719611 285027 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67756&oldid=67754 5* 03IFcoltransG 5* (-10) 10/* Non-alphabetic */ "Zed" is alphabetic. Very alphabetic, in fact. Removed the duplicate.
> 1575719809 990891 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Zed14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67757&oldid=67755 5* 03IFcoltransG 5* (+41) 10Added two appropriate categories.
> 1575720149 79333 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07LogOS14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67758&oldid=67543 5* 03IFcoltransG 5* (+27) 10Tentatively added Pseudonatural category
> 1575720309 575390 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Esolang:Categorization14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67759&oldid=64873 5* 03IFcoltransG 5* (+111) 10/* Source format */ Added reference to the Pseudonatural category (which already exists)
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> 1575726184 796877 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Ttttt14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67760&oldid=67726 5* 03Hex96 5* (+317) 10/* Hello, world */
> 1575726255 484548 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Tttt14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67761&oldid=67713 5* 03Hex96 5* (+301) 10/* Hello, World! */
> 1575726288 544727 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Tttt14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67762&oldid=67761 5* 03Hex96 5* (+4) 10
< 1575726340 945614 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's probably a few bugs in this long-running program that I made. fungot, can you give a clue about where the bug is?
< 1575726340 992289 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :wib_jonas: i don't follow
> 1575726405 228874 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Burn14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67763&oldid=67717 5* 03Hex96 5* (+96) 10/* One-eyed representations */
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< 1575726745 502337 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 NICK :Lord_of_Life
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< 1575729056 716047 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric
> 1575729580 539362 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User talk:Hex9614]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67764&oldid=67710 5* 03Palaiologos 5* (+54) 10
> 1575729598 258451 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User talk:Hex9614]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67765&oldid=67764 5* 03Palaiologos 5* (+104) 10
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< 1575731461 848637 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.14.86.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: in P vs. NP rap battle, who wins?
< 1575731461 988423 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :arseniiv: i think almost whole darkhive is 300m. a car is-a vehicle, a vehicle, such things
< 1575731502 453227 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.14.86.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :I get it you don’t want to give spoilers
> 1575733482 251852 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Zed14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67766&oldid=67757 5* 03Rigidity 5* (+52) 10/* Zed Language */
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> 1575738088 694042 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Tttt14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67767&oldid=67762 5* 03Hex96 5* (+104) 10
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> 1575738772 723918 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Dart14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=67769 5* 03Dart 5* (+1025) 10Created page with "<div style="background-image:linear-gradient(to top right,#294,#AB7);height:200px;text-align:center;"><div style="-webkit-text-stroke:1px #000;color:#FFF;text-shadow:3px 3px 0..."
< 1575740026 116505 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dang xD
< 1575740029 116035 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's cool
> 1575740583 280118 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Tttt14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67770&oldid=67715 5* 03Hex96 5* (+6) 10
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> 1575741127 483859 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Tttt14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67772&oldid=67771 5* 03Hex96 5* (+7) 10
> 1575741262 915737 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Tttt14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67773&oldid=67768 5* 03Hex96 5* (+128) 10
> 1575741357 684368 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Hex9614]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67774&oldid=67729 5* 03Hex96 5* (+65) 10
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> 1575745516 671055 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Tttt14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67775&oldid=67772 5* 03Dart 5* (+127) 10/* Other Programs */
< 1575745858 603361 :rain1!~debian@unaffiliated/rain1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi
< 1575746059 86027 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :what small, resource-constrained portable devices can we run esolangs on.
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< 1575746221 529464 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm sure you could run brainfuck on an 8-bit microcontroller
< 1575746246 843705 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :add 8 buttons, 8 LEDs, use those for the input and output commands
< 1575746259 626563 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and for programming it
< 1575746260 423448 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :could fit on a keychain
< 1575746262 956435 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :would be cute
< 1575746301 536633 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know there are Schemes that run on micros as well
< 1575746323 634025 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and Forth
< 1575746328 599206 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not eso-, but gives you an idea of what's possible
< 1575746351 988371 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I always thought it would be cute to make a machine where the clock is a hand crank
< 1575746362 427556 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :static micros can be clocked as low as you want
< 1575746648 407366 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :been looking at the arduboy for that dev fix. wanna run mode on something stupid small to make that reward loop more satisfying than "your program worked on a machine infinitely more powerful than the apollo guidance computer".
< 1575747552 963810 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a pretty good Befunge-93 (with a few extensions, like a-f) interpreter for the TI-86.
< 1575747567 195663 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :With a single-stepping debugger and all that.
< 1575747619 827352 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I think that counts as "resource-constrained portable devices", though "small" is a little bit debatable.)
< 1575747885 676441 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.14.86.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never had a programmable calculator when it was feasible *sniffs*
< 1575747956 455165 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.14.86.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would be so nice. Now it’s pretty pointless (for me) to aquire. Though if it falls from the sky, I should use this idea of implemeting some small esolang in it
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< 1575748032 840434 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.14.86.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :as I agree this idea is very very cool. It would be a warm feeling. Pun intended
< 1575748837 793265 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :get an arduboy! they're cheap, use avrdude and avr-gcc (or whatever analogue for clang there is) and have a minimalist screen and speaker.
< 1575748862 187301 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :port asm2bf to ti83
< 1575748879 280953 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll have some fun on boring lectures
< 1575749533 23364 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-7.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a TI-92 calculator. I use it; it has a full keyboard and is programmable, so it is good.
< 1575749540 445375 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :We also played quite a lot of the TI-86 two-player link-cable-enabled Tetris port.
< 1575749595 326535 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The "problem" with TI-92 is that it's too good: it's got enough CAS-style features that you weren't allowed to use it in the Finnish math exams. The TI-86 was pretty much the fanciest thing you could.
< 1575749629 373616 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-7.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is true although I wasn't concerned about exams I just use it for my own use.
< 1575749662 69315 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got my TI-86 for... well, not for cheap, but with a good discount, as part of the school's big group-buy program.
> 1575750885 401355 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Keg14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67776&oldid=67504 5* 03JonoCode9374 5* (+0) 10/* Command Glossary */
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< 1575752621 66896 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18b982ad.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I keep giving my esolang stuff cool unique names and then get pressured into a rename, and the rename is more ambiguous
< 1575752646 68249 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18b982ad.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :PESOX -> PSOX and Trustfuck -> Braintrust
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< 1575759386 731662 :aji!~alex@unaffiliated/aji PRIVMSG #esoteric :1915      kmc | I always thought it would be cute to make a machine where the clock is a hand crank
< 1575759391 407896 :aji!~alex@unaffiliated/aji PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha that'd be neat!
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< 1575760934 346837 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`"
< 1575760936 192421 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :62) <Sgeo|web> Where's the link to the log?  <lament> THERE'S NO LOG. YOUR REQUEST IS SUSPICIOUS AND HAS BEEN LOGGED. \ 947) <boily> it's raining in newcastle, therefore the elliotts are distinct.  <tswett> boily's Newcastle Theorem.
< 1575761029 826465 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: got any fun?
< 1575761029 880449 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: nite nite nites
< 1575761081 249187 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :^8ball does this work?
< 1575761081 272869 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes.
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< 1575761432 183367 :tswett[m]!tswettmatr@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-pmzlnrkzsrotypjh PRIVMSG #esoteric :That thing I said wasn't very funny. I'm going to request another one.
< 1575761439 892889 :tswett[m]!tswettmatr@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-pmzlnrkzsrotypjh PRIVMSG #esoteric :`" tswett
< 1575761440 940685 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :860) <GreyKnight> Taneb: The other day on the channel I came up with BRAINLISPCODE, a LOLCODE-style LISP with an embedded bf derivative.  I thought you should know. :-I \ 935) <groily> I stand by the argument that fungot is the one making the most sense in this channel.
< 1575761485 245369 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`url ../bin/"
< 1575761486 136600 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://hack.esolangs.org/repo/file/tip/bin/%22
< 1575761696 840264 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, that's terrible.
< 1575761709 835028 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I mean the "pun".)
< 1575761821 29360 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cblprits "
< 1575761825 534658 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachäf
< 1575761973 677366 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkx ../bin/"//\`^ 2 quote "$@"
< 1575761975 873188 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​../bin/"
< 1575761981 521380 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`"
< 1575761982 880530 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :1/1:120) <AnMaster> cpressey, oh go to zzo's website. He is NIH  <Phantom_Hoover> AnMaster, really? I was strongly under the impression that zzo was invented here. \ 802) <kmc> colemak is for people who think dvorak is too mainstream
< 1575761988 649386 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`" tswett
< 1575761989 449129 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :Usage: /hackenv/bin/`^ n cmd
< 1575761998 800284 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-(
< 1575762306 53367 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-186.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? t
< 1575762307 224669 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :t? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1575762308 548089 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-186.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? `t
< 1575762309 736447 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​`t? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1575762867 459411 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkx ../bin/"//\`^ 2 "quote${1:+ }$1"
< 1575762869 740551 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​../bin/"
< 1575762871 830639 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`"
< 1575762873 168476 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :1/1:905) <Sgeo> If that sexy_goats had some sort of namespace, so other things could add their own sexy_goats method to Object or whatever to do something different, I would have no complaint \ 343) <Sgeo> I used to be more irritated by alcohol  <olsner> Sgeo: you're not supposed to put it in your eyes
< 1575762875 909388 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`" tswett
< 1575762877 369185 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :1/11:163) <tswett> That is the mark of Gregor right there.  <ais523> tswett: except that Gregor didn't write that  <tswett> It's still the mark of Gregor. \ 167) <tswett> elliott: just to bring you up to speed, you are now my baby nephew.  <olsner> wtf, elliott is a nephew and his uncle is here?  <nooga> what  <tswett> Heck yes I'm elliott's uncle. \ 240) <tswett> There are white Africans out there, but, you know.  A black swan in the hand doe
< 1575762907 730745 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, that's why we don't support this, hmm
< 1575763138 733349 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mkx ../bin/"//allquotes | grep -P -i -- "$1" | shuff -random-source=/dev/urandom -n 2 | sport
< 1575763140 760290 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​../bin/"
< 1575763145 381373 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`" tswett
< 1575763146 436328 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/": line 1: shuff: command not found \ 1/0:
< 1575763154 602663 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh
< 1575763169 620036 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-186.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shuf with one f
< 1575763170 505403 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sled ../bin/"//s=shuff=shuf=
< 1575763172 474904 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​../bin/"//allquotes | grep -P -i -- "$1" | shuf -random-source=/dev/urandom -n 2 | sport
< 1575763178 421381 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`" tswett
< 1575763179 592238 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :shuf: invalid option -- 'a' \ Try 'shuf --help' for more information. \ 1/0:
< 1575763191 321838 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-186.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie fixed /dev/random by the way
< 1575763192 962807 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :...
< 1575763205 378544 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-186.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :two hyphens
< 1575763219 386946 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-186.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :for a long option
< 1575763244 809396 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sled ../bin/"//s=-r=--r=
< 1575763247 204688 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​../bin/"//allquotes | grep -P -i -- "$1" | shuf --random-source=/dev/urandom -n 2 | sport
< 1575763251 479049 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`"
< 1575763252 618405 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :1/1:325) <oklopol> but touchscreens should feel like poking a boob \ 622) <oklopol> i don't lie, i tell stories  <oklopol> there's no difference  <oklopol> *a
< 1575763258 927545 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`" elliott
< 1575763259 988683 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :1/1:1020) <elliott> beautiful summer / massacres in qusayr / sent from my iphone \ 995) <elliott> that is better than any made up story i was about to tell
< 1575763293 725362 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`" spongebob
< 1575763294 736514 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :1/0:
< 1575763361 969407 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`' spongebob
< 1575763362 724750 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1575763416 268059 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you actually need that shuf option? 
< 1575763433 899513 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, I don't mind, just wondering if it's insufficiently random by default.
< 1575763480 825387 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo $(seq 10 | shuf)
< 1575763481 688773 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :7 8 3 6 1 10 5 4 2 9
< 1575763483 889365 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo $(seq 10 | shuf)
< 1575763484 800705 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :4 10 8 1 5 9 6 2 3 7
< 1575763523 515627 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"By default these commands use an internal pseudo-random generator initialized by a small amount of entropy, but can be directed to use an external source with the --random-source=file option. An error is reported if file does not contain enough bytes." https://www.gnu.org/software/coreutils/manual/html_node/Random-sources.html
< 1575763577 698345 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't specify where that initialization is coming from, though.
< 1575763606 443404 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :context, https://hack.esolangs.org/repo/rev/3e54f8d1843f ... let's see the logs
< 1575763824 256221 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I guess it's not needed.
< 1575763853 889465 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I copied it from `wisdom without thinking too much about it. Except that I retyped it and messed it up in the process, rather than mechanically copying it.
< 1575763867 279046 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :And by `wisdom I mean `quote
< 1575763982 990726 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looks like we used the highly rigorous statistical test of oerjan having a feeling in order to prove that the default was insufficiently random.
< 1575763991 317377 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-186.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`whatis '
< 1575763992 188971 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​'(1hackeso) - search quote database or print random quote
< 1575763992 969379 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-186.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`whatis "
< 1575763993 968462 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​"(1hackeso) - show two random quotes
< 1575763995 545472 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-186.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`whatis q
< 1575763996 440895 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :q(1hackeso) - search quote database or print random quote
< 1575763999 133397 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-186.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`whatis quote
< 1575764000 4469 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :quote(1hackeso) - search quote database or print random quote \ quote(8lambdabot) - no description
< 1575764006 30817 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-186.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote tswett
< 1575764006 788953 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :163) <tswett> That is the mark of Gregor right there.  <ais523> tswett: except that Gregor didn't write that  <tswett> It's still the mark of Gregor. \ 167) <tswett> elliott: just to bring you up to speed, you are now my baby nephew.  <olsner> wtf, elliott is a nephew and his uncle is here?  <nooga> what  <tswett> Heck yes I'm elliott's uncle. \ 240) <tswett> There are white Africans out there, but, you know.  A black swan in the hand does not
< 1575764008 609351 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-186.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`q tswett
< 1575764009 416453 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :163) <tswett> That is the mark of Gregor right there.  <ais523> tswett: except that Gregor didn't write that  <tswett> It's still the mark of Gregor. \ 167) <tswett> elliott: just to bring you up to speed, you are now my baby nephew.  <olsner> wtf, elliott is a nephew and his uncle is here?  <nooga> what  <tswett> Heck yes I'm elliott's uncle. \ 240) <tswett> There are white Africans out there, but, you know.  A black swan in the hand does not
< 1575764010 331004 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-186.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`' tswett
< 1575764011 112701 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :163) <tswett> That is the mark of Gregor right there.  <ais523> tswett: except that Gregor didn't write that  <tswett> It's still the mark of Gregor. \ 167) <tswett> elliott: just to bring you up to speed, you are now my baby nephew.  <olsner> wtf, elliott is a nephew and his uncle is here?  <nooga> what  <tswett> Heck yes I'm elliott's uncle. \ 240) <tswett> There are white Africans out there, but, you know.  A black swan in the hand does not
< 1575764036 258803 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-186.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so none of these prints one random matching quote when you search?
< 1575764076 590087 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, they print all quotes for some reason, in file order
< 1575764091 609656 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :' is a symlink to quote
< 1575764097 584217 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suspect q is as well?
< 1575764108 783478 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, but it calls quote.
< 1575764122 273616 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the right word for that? Should we call it a bashlink? 
< 1575764138 556406 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat ../bin/q
< 1575764139 296289 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :quote "$@"
< 1575764225 713385 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-186.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` ls -dlF /hackenv/bin/{q,quote,\'}
< 1575764227 556833 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :lrwxrwxrwx 1 1000 1000   5 Jul  8  2017 /hackenv/bin/' -> quote* \ -rwxr-xr-x 1 1000 1000  11 Apr  7  2018 /hackenv/bin/q* \ -rwxr-xr-x 1 1000 1000 194 Apr  7  2018 /hackenv/bin/quote*
> 1575764267 375696 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07BIX Queue Subset14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67777&oldid=67238 5* 03Ais523 5* (+161) 10external resources
< 1575764732 149363 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-186.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` python3 '-cimport sys,os,random,re; open(1,"wb",closefd=0).write(random.choice([l for l in open(os.environ.get("HACKENV","/hackenv")+"/quotes", "rb") if re.search(os.fsencode(sys.argv[1]), l)]))' llio
< 1575764733 260489 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​<ZOMGMODULES> I can trust elliott_ to have an opinion on anything and everything  <elliott_> Yes.  <elliott_> And the best thing is: it is the correct opinion.
< 1575764745 91104 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-186.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :prints one random quote that matches the regex "llio"
< 1575764825 837411 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-186.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` python3 '-cimport sys,os,random,re; open(1,"wb",closefd=0).write(b"".join(random.sample([l for l in open(os.environ.get("HACKENV","/hackenv")+"/quotes", "rb") if re.search(os.fsencode(sys.argv[1]), l)], 2)))' fun.ot
< 1575764826 876404 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​<fungot> boily: i'll probably stop programming the day i will hit the end of the program. \ <fungot> elliott_: it's a machine that looks like you!
< 1575764829 816452 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-186.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :# prints two
< 1575764848 664956 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume the fact that quote prints all the matching ones is intentional -- the reasoning being that you might be looking for a specific one that you faintly remember.
< 1575764857 651109 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-186.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably
< 1575764871 826586 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-186.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I generally use grep for those things, but it makes sense that quote can do that too
< 1575764877 157502 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-186.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but sometimes I want to read a random fungot quote
< 1575764877 242782 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: fnord has a factorial opcode, and you will be teh positively fnord.
< 1575764890 583106 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-186.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :because there are so many bad ones that you want to do the list five quotes delete one routine on just them
< 1575764909 517376 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`randquote fungot
< 1575764909 609565 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: he was gushing about the power of the first
< 1575764910 330483 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :807) <olsner> fungot: what's your view on angels and other otherworldly beings?  <fungot> olsner: well i'm mentioning theoretical image to be dumped in rain forests of laukaa.
< 1575764920 205366 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`randquote fun.ot
< 1575764921 44353 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :431) <fungot> elliott: an old colonel lost, but a new brother gained. together they will ascend, each time you must be adventurin'.
< 1575764923 847729 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There you go.
< 1575764926 463502 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-186.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, randquote
< 1575764927 7251 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-186.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice
< 1575764987 161382 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-186.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` python3 '-cimport sys,os,random,re; open(1,"wb",closefd=0).write(b"".join(random.sample([b"%d) %s"%(1+n,l) for n,l in enumerate(open(os.environ.get("HACKENV","/hackenv")+"/quotes", "rb")) if re.search(os.fsencode(sys.argv[1]), l)], 2)))' fun.ot
< 1575764988 112434 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :768) <fungot> olsner: over the undertow! under the overpass! around the future and not just fnord for example. it's just the syntax \ 668) <fungot> elliott: but, there are imps around, the pad. it's hard to remember though your cross-hairs would never settle on an innocent little girl. chokes up now imagine she's white.
< 1575764995 28585 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-186.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ in case you want line numbers
< 1575765016 141364 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` allquotes | shuf -n 1
< 1575765018 336531 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :1194) <olsner> fungot: what do you do to get rid of information you no longer need?  <fungot> olsner: emacs lisp for a while
< 1575765028 959592 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(is basically what `quote does)
< 1575765031 981352 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-186.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`whatis randquote
< 1575765032 908265 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :randquote(1hackeso) - no description
< 1575765034 529322 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(without arguments)
< 1575765087 441364 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-186.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addwhatis randquote(1hackeso) - print a random quote matching a regular expression
< 1575765089 648531 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :addwhatis: replaced 'randquote(1hackeso)'
> 1575765092 891569 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07BIX Queue Subset14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67778&oldid=67777 5* 03Ais523 5* (-2) 10cat
< 1575765786 617132 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-186.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the simplest infinite loop in /// ? The wiki article doesn't seem to say.
< 1575765796 406149 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-186.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right, that's ///
< 1575765806 914416 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-186.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is the simplest loop that reads infinitely many patterns then?
< 1575765864 194341 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hint-e
< 1575765871 681097 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :My learned clauses are so scow.
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> 1575770033 200648 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Keg14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67779&oldid=67776 5* 03JonoCode9374 5* (+0) 10Undo revision 67776 by [[Special:Contributions/JonoCode9374|JonoCode9374]] ([[User talk:JonoCode9374|talk]])
< 1575770084 673515 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 NICK :Lord_of_Life
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> 1575773067 888234 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Ggtylerr 5*  10New user account
> 1575773291 512715 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67780&oldid=67751 5* 03Ggtylerr 5* (+290) 10/* Introductions */
> 1575773658 921110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Ggtylerr14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=67781 5* 03Ggtylerr 5* (+401) 10Created page with " ++++++++++[>+++++++>++++++++++>+++>+<<<<-]>++.>+.+++++++..+++.>++.<<+++++++++++++++.>.+++.------.--------.>+.>.  GitHub: https://github.com/ggtylerr  Twitch: https://www.twit..."
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> 1575775158 724156 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User talk:Ggtylerr14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=67782 5* 03Ggtylerr 5* (+145) 10Created page with "why do you want to discuss here  ok well since you're here  here's some ascii copypasta  but made in brainfuck  [https://pastebin.com/NUPRMEUR 1]"
> 1575775964 772579 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03OpenMPT 5*  10New user account
< 1575776583 290245 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :
> 1575776603 559980 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Baba is program14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=67783 5* 03Ggtylerr 5* (+3001) 10Started page
> 1575776656 588182 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67784&oldid=67756 5* 03Ggtylerr 5* (+22) 10Added "Baba is program"
> 1575776814 74151 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67785&oldid=67780 5* 03OpenMPT 5* (+215) 10/* Introductions */
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> 1575778606 217222 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User talk:OpenMPT14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=67786 5* 03OpenMPT 5* (+166) 10Created page with "I want to create an esolang base on topologic... Because of my bad English, I can't explain about it more. However,I will paste the code of the virtual machine later."
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< 1575784151 307536 :ggtylerr!47de45a5@71-222-69-165.lsv2.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heyo, is there anyway I can reset my password without having to wait for 24 hours? I accidentally put in the wrong email address (I have to primary ones) and now I can't send another one...
< 1575784232 740497 :ggtylerr!47de45a5@71-222-69-165.lsv2.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*2 primary ones
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> 1575794577 626644 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User talk:Hex9614]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67801&oldid=67765 5* 03Hex96 5* (+6) 10/* Tttt in Python, 175 bytes */
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> 1575794923 68973 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Baba is program14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=67803 5* 03Hakerh400 5* (+255) 10Created page with "== Interpreter ==  Hello, I added an interpreter for your language. If you think any part of the implementation is not compliant with your specification, let me know. ~~~~"
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< 1575796928 76480 :ggtylerr!47de45a5@71-222-69-165.lsv2.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hakerh400, if you can see this message, tysm! can't login rn since I forgot my pw and it takes 24 hours to reset it, but I'll definitely check it out
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> 1575803362 510293 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Baba is program14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67810&oldid=67802 5* 03Ggtylerr 5* (+702) 10Added fibonacci example + a WIP interpreter in python
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< 1575803542 618610 :ggtylerr!47de45a5@71-222-69-165.lsv2.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^^^ found out reset emails get sent anyways despite a wrong email address inputted
< 1575803564 30497 :ggtylerr!47de45a5@71-222-69-165.lsv2.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i got back my account w/o waiting for a full day \o/
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> 1575819083 794759 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Monolog14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=67815 5* 03CMinusMinus 5* (+1011) 10Created page with "'''Monolog''' ('''MONOLOG''') is a programming language created by [[User:CMinusMinus]].  Every thing you do, is to define a variable. You can call functions, do simple maths..."
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< 1575819904 730002 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-186.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, in pokémon, which move is it that copies a move from the opponent? I don't mean Ditto, who copies the form of a pokémon, just copy the move.
< 1575819904 866017 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: doing is infectious, i tell ya. do i get out of vi. i use latex.
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< 1575820501 127443 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's at least Mirror Move and Copycat.
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< 1575821358 806951 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pokemon, pshaw, us sun kings do final fantasy reflects and such :/
< 1575821843 264677 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-186.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kingoffrance: not even the collectible card game where you have to be rich to get the best cards?
< 1575821915 559925 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that sounds tempting
< 1575821943 993563 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :we're metaphorically filthy rich
< 1575821969 189099 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( should use sleeves )
< 1575822026 440272 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :we only do alchemy metaphorical riches
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< 1575822223 562724 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-186.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like the april fool announcement https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/arcana/announcing-vault-vaults-2009-04-01 which mentions "the safe that contains Richard Garfield's personal Black Lotus collection, and the underground bunker that contains Richard Garfield's personal black Lotus collection", and "black Lotus" is linked to a webpage about a car of brand Lotus. The difference is that the 
< 1575822229 559206 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-186.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :former kind of Lotus is never shiny but the latter kind usually is.
< 1575822348 154716 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm writing a los alamos chess engine
< 1575822353 691104 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's so fun
< 1575822362 581012 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :400 lines of C already
< 1575822372 976169 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-186.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you want to run that on bfbot?
< 1575822376 280651 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-186.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? bfbot
< 1575822378 252583 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :bfbot? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1575822382 815427 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmm
< 1575822385 344358 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-186.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ this should say something about the bot being on vacation
< 1575822386 270014 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you may have inspired me lol
< 1575822391 112735 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-186.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :for incineration
< 1575822403 700392 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but for chess I'll set up a separate bot
< 1575822406 233336 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because why not
< 1575822434 760937 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's awesome idea
< 1575822469 383818 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-186.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't play chess, so I don't think I'll use such a bot much
< 1575822556 740012 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-186.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh by the way, prerequisite before you write an esoteric chess engine: http://www.nanochess.org/chess.html Oscar Toledo's golfed chess programs; 
< 1575822579 699603 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they say the knights templars brought it back from crusades (chess == shah, persianish for "king") and the pope or somebody demanded a "bishop" character;   its basically a "how to overthrow a gov." game
< 1575822589 423066 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-186.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you may also want to check the one chess-related IOCCC winner that isn't by Oscar Toledo, and Tom7's silly chess strategies
< 1575822599 156531 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i cant remember what the "bishop" was before the rebrand)
< 1575822629 239151 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've seen Toledo's chess programs
< 1575822633 911842 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I kinda want to roll my own
< 1575822639 566957 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that will be strong et all
< 1575822640 348834 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know
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< 1575828560 576006 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://community.arduboy.com/t/brainf-ck-interpreter/7481
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< 1575832773 596030 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-7.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The bishop was a elephant at first. What I read is that they called it a bishop because they did not know what is a elephant
< 1575832870 631720 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-7.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The queen also was not originally called that; also the bishop and queen's movement were different before they made the modern rules.)
< 1575832940 689389 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, is this because the game was imported from India?
< 1575832967 914616 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what were the old rules?
< 1575833072 929253 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-7.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The elephant moves exactly two spaces diagonally and can jump; the advisor (now the queen) moves exactly one space diagonally and can't go orthogonally; promotion is always to queens; no pawns double step; no castling; once per game the king can go like a knight.
< 1575833346 622455 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-186.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: that sounds unlikely. everyone knew elephants form Pilnius, didn't they?
< 1575833427 529094 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, i remember elephant now that you say it
< 1575833479 541886 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :somebody wanted a bishop :/
< 1575833486 844749 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-7.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: I don't know.
< 1575833499 841447 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :some bishop wanted a bishop i mean :/
< 1575833587 176366 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-7.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe that is true; I don't know.
< 1575833702 853002 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :im saying surely they knew what an elephant was, they purposely wanted a religious figure to defend the kingdom or whatever
< 1575833736 839767 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :marketing-wise 
< 1575833850 881756 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-7.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe it is; I don't know about that history so well
< 1575833976 691847 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-186.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's not an elephant because you can't turn an elephant figurine on a lathe.
< 1575833995 703080 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-186.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :So an elephant would work as long as you only sell very expensive board, but not for a board game developed for mass market.
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< 1575834993 884282 :ajevremovic!~ajevremov@178-221-185-36.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi
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< 1575837320 885529 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Los Alamos chess has no bishops
< 1575837324 880561 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, the engine is pretty much ready
< 1575837336 559149 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's able to generate moves and validate 'em
< 1575837395 834373 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder does the board fit in the irc message
< 1575837410 512491 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's 42 characters long if in one line
< 1575837414 817753 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that much if you ask me
< 1575837423 374835 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :should it display board on multiple lines or a single line?
< 1575837439 120657 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-7.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :On just one line, I think, you can use FEN, I think
< 1575837472 323190 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fen is very, very uncomfortable to play
< 1575837480 15664 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :imagine only thing you see is fen and you want to play
< 1575837507 527872 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yet multiple lines (6)
< 1575837513 774901 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+ an user line for each
< 1575837517 700005 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :7 lines per move
< 1575837521 220403 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :around 30 moves a game
< 1575837522 667099 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-7.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although FEN is only needed for the initial position. After that just use the algebraic notation for each move.
< 1575837530 420615 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-7.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You do not need to repeat the board after each move.
< 1575837540 790906 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's even more uncomfortable
< 1575837546 485429 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :playing blindfold with a chess engine
< 1575837566 674106 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 QUIT :Quit: Leaving
< 1575837704 521002 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suspect ♔♕♖♗♘♙♚♛♜♝♞♟ are your friends in this case
< 1575837880 505687 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-7.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you can just write   1. e4 e5 2. Nf3   and so on.
< 1575838205 91126 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not about having complete information, it's about not having to visualize a full board.
< 1575838354 566386 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-186.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ 'rnbqkbnr',(8$'p'),(4 8$'.'),(8$'P'),:'RNBQKBNR'
< 1575838374 503802 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-186.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah yes... no j-bot
< 1575838529 256242 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-7.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can place the pieces on your own board if you want to
< 1575839610 138569 :j-bot!eldis4@firefly.nu JOIN :#esoteric
< 1575840120 425336 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-186.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ 'rnbqkbnr',(8$'p'),(4 8$'.'),(8$'P'),:'RNBQKBNR'
< 1575840121 110990 :j-bot!eldis4@firefly.nu PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: rnbqkbnr
< 1575840121 118205 :j-bot!eldis4@firefly.nu PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: pppppppp
< 1575840121 118231 :j-bot!eldis4@firefly.nu PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: ........
< 1575840121 118239 :j-bot!eldis4@firefly.nu PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: ........
< 1575840121 118247 :j-bot!eldis4@firefly.nu PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: ........
< 1575840122 87687 :j-bot!eldis4@firefly.nu PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: ........
< 1575840122 87714 :j-bot!eldis4@firefly.nu PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: PPPPPPPP
< 1575840123 68507 :j-bot!eldis4@firefly.nu PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: RNBQKBNR
< 1575840158 208335 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.14.86.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :bishop is still, and I think forever, called elephant in Russian chess terminology, officially. There’s also an unofficial name translated as “officer”. I don’t understand why that one perseveres, as elephant is just four letters long and it’s not a taboo word or what
< 1575840201 724615 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :arseniiv: What about knights?
< 1575840287 752047 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.14.86.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :also queen is ferz, that one borrowed word having no non-chess meaning at all, and yes, knights are just (male) horses
> 1575840303 314418 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Special:Log/upload14]]4 upload10 02 5* 03Void 5*  10uploaded "[[02File:KeyVM Process Capability Graph.jpg10]]"
< 1575840314 138611 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.14.86.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should check what’s a non-chess meaning of rook to elaborate further
< 1575840357 402733 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :German also has its own term for bishop (Läufer=runner), knight (Springer=jumper, colloquially Pferd=horse), and rook (Turm=tower).
< 1575840417 971118 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Finnish bishops are messengers/couriers ("lähetti").
< 1575840452 142287 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And knights are a the generic word for any riding animal ("ratsu").
< 1575840458 61048 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :That would agree with the runner idea.
< 1575840518 651106 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, "rook" is pretty mysterious to me.
< 1575840540 890444 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rooks are towers, but to be fair, they *are* towers.
< 1575840564 379625 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.14.86.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :“rook” as a chesspiece seems not having a non-chess meaning, as a bird rook is not a partially synonymous castle. Russian rook name is an archaic word for boat, and an unofficial word (I think it should be much rare than an officer bishop vs. elephant bishop case) is a French borrowing or something, for a castle
< 1575840626 81272 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh it's a transcription of the arabic/persian terms
> 1575840644 864102 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07KeyVM14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67830&oldid=64781 5* 03Void 5* (+727) 10Add self replicating process example
< 1575840673 672397 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, loaned from there anyway... "Middle English rok, from Anglo-French roc, from Arabic rukhkh, from Persian rukh"
< 1575840683 991113 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.14.86.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :now, at last pawn here is again a chess-exclusive word (plus its metaphorical usage, exactly as in English) derived analogously from a footsoldier
< 1575840713 458994 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it's too old for scripture to play any significant role in the process)
< 1575840716 540264 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.14.86.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :and king is king. Boring!
< 1575840774 921682 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boreking
< 1575840787 857457 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks kings
< 1575840788 597557 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, kings. Things.
< 1575840833 5823 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.14.86.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :<int-e> Springer=jumper => oh! now I suddenly understand something about some publisher
< 1575840860 294385 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, that's why they've got that logo.
< 1575840894 46397 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.14.86.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :exactly!
< 1575840941 304702 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Always nice to spread some knowledge :-?
< 1575841042 964635 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.14.86.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder is there a page collecting these names and connotations between different languages
< 1575841079 327119 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Appendix:Chess_pieces for the first part.
< 1575841089 249408 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :For just the list, I mean.
< 1575841103 708499 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You'd have to click on the individual words for the meanings, unfortunately.
< 1575841215 397549 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.14.86.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: oh, that’s useful! though I don’t know for what
< 1575841253 639256 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :arseniiv: if you can't find any other use, it's good for https://www.xkcd.com/609/
< 1575841326 188776 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.14.86.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, I forgot that queen is occasionally a queen to, but not officially, as that table mentions too, if one to suppose the first name is always an official one if it has sense for that language’s chess authority
< 1575841371 161408 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.14.86.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: ah,
< 1575841434 266924 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh it should be noted that "Springen" exists as a particular kind of horse riding. And in a military context, I suspect it's a kind of reserve that you can use to fill gaps in the front.
< 1575841439 145690 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.14.86.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, didn’t Munroe had another one about that effect and called it Wikipedia effect or something?
< 1575841460 931954 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-7.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The queen was originally called ferz before they called it queen. The rook is called that because it was a corruption of a Indian word for a chariot (in Chinese game the piece with the same movement as a rook is called a chariot or car).
< 1575841551 980613 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :arseniiv: you're right: https://www.xkcd.com/214/
< 1575841636 327913 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :arseniiv: explainxkcd further points to the image title in https://www.xkcd.com/1501/
< 1575841666 665267 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-7.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wiktionary says "rook" is from a Arabic, from Persian (in both Arabic and Persian it means that chess piece), in turn from Sanskrit word meaning a chariot or car.
< 1575842280 924536 :LBPHacker!lbphacker@trigraph.net NICK :reinterpret_cast
< 1575842287 717703 :reinterpret_cast!lbphacker@trigraph.net NICK :LBPHacker
< 1575842775 938049 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.14.86.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: oh, even that many!
< 1575842834 573562 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :arseniiv: I suspect Munroe has a hard time *not* doing one of those comics every month.
< 1575842877 40752 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean he must be ending up in those spirals constantly, while looking for comic ideas and otherwise entertaining himself
< 1575842897 669843 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.14.86.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :aah
< 1575842917 578798 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.14.86.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :the former hadn’t occurred to me
< 1575842941 692109 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.14.86.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :the latter is not that mysterious as he says too :D
< 1575843089 148103 :elliemae!~ellie@152.13.89.184 JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1575845375 696918 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.14.86.dynamic.ufanet.ru QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds
< 1575845761 378564 :LKoen!~LKoen@lstlambert-657-1-122-23.w92-154.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Quit: “It’s only logical. First you learn to talk, then you learn to think. Too bad it’s not the other way round.”
< 1575845943 826265 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: have you ever been to the fungus fair
< 1575845943 982585 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: in my experience, fnord type constructors would be defined by the angles the lines of what you call ' objects?'
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< 1575846887 982842 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-186.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: no, that's not how type constructors work
< 1575846888 89884 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: the fnord seems a less stable ( historical) state than -as-behaviour.)
< 1575850138 950686 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :
< 1575851135 55583 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm.. what if you modified `]` to mean the opposite of `[`. i.e "dequeue an item, if it's true, loop to the beginning of the loop, otherwise move on to the next instruction."
< 1575854677 347302 :ArthurStrong!~ArthurStr@slow.wreckage.volia.net JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1575856475 993588 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 NICK :Lord_of_Life
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< 1575860417 769046 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://repl.it/repls/RunnyDistinctDeclaration it's a start.
< 1575860737 730080 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :one thing I do like about this implementation is that it guards against spinning processes. if all of your processes are dead or blocking, it just stops.
< 1575864000 548543 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:aaaa:0:aaaa:0 QUIT :Quit: I seem to have stopped.
< 1575864096 516912 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org JOIN :#esoteric
< 1575864700 133984 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`5 w
< 1575864703 627766 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :1/1:hth//hth ([ʰtʰh̩]) is help received from a hairy toe. It is not at all hambiguitous. \ nø//nø means 'Char', apparently. Maybe like when you burn a lot? \ lifthrasiir//lifthrasiir is shunned by the rest of his country for being no good at League of Legends. \ #esoteric-blah//#esoteric-blah blah blah. Blah blah, blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah! \ vegemite//Vegemite is genericized marmite for intellectual property reasons.
> 1575867262 557866 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Salpynx/Phoney Burn 0114]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=67831 5* 03Salpynx 5* (+5473) 10Puns intended. I started with a serious attempt, but then this happened...
> 1575870137 886982 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Burn14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67832&oldid=67763 5* 03Salpynx 5* (+1429) 10/* Random Observations and Guesses */  colour theory
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< 1575870827 40743 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in atlas and/or reverse atlas news; theres totally a card with dude holding up "the world" on google right now
< 1575870835 36515 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :he gets around
< 1575870860 801559 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems this one is mexican
< 1575871340 371665 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :ZA WARUDO
> 1575871483 111198 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Burn14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67833&oldid=67832 5* 03Salpynx 5* (+13) 10/* Colours */
> 1575875861 123930 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Brainflop14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67834&oldid=66273 5* 03Flux3on 5* (+5) 10/* Cat */
< 1575876207 584468 :kritixilithos!~kritixili@gateway/tor-sasl/kritixilithos JOIN :#esoteric
> 1575877162 641973 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Salpynx/Phoney Burn 0114]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67835&oldid=67831 5* 03Salpynx 5* (+381) 10/* Phoney Burn walkthrough */ modify the final data string to produce a more interesting rule 110 result
< 1575880039 395766 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-7.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is a Magic: the Gathering mystery card called "Corrupted Key". If it is tapped, your creatures have menace and deathtouch. Do you have the card database with the mystery cards in this IRC?
< 1575880221 298692 :Frater_EST!~adrianbib@172.242.0.73 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1575880260 877404 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`card-by-name corrupted key
< 1575880261 740704 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1575880264 762884 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`card-by-name corrupted
< 1575880265 584788 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :Corrupted Conscience \ 3UU \ Enchantment -- Aura \ Enchant creature \ You control enchanted creature. \ Enchanted creature has infect. (It deals damage to creatures in the form of -1/-1 counters and to players in the form of poison counters.) \ MBS-U \  \ Corrupted Crossroads \ Land \ {T}: Add {C}. ({C} represents colorless mana.) \ {T}, Pay 1 life: Add one mana of any color. Spend this mana only to cast a spell with devoid. \ OGW-R \  \ Corru
< 1575880276 42479 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems not.
< 1575880290 712109 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't remember what Menace is. Was there a rules lookup command?
< 1575880297 290226 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds
< 1575880304 33530 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-186.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: we don't have one
< 1575880305 653431 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, i have reverse corrupted keys zzo38 ,  but that explanation makes total sense zzo38
> 1575880307 990972 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Brainflop14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67836&oldid=67834 5* 03Flux3on 5* (+253) 10/* Example Programs */ It can be replaced with something (anything, please) better. I just wanted there to be a Hello World program there in the least ~~~~
< 1575880325 848999 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :im not tapping noone, relax
< 1575880362 845406 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-186.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` grep -i menace /hackenv/share/mtg/rules.txt | tail -n+2
< 1575880363 684485 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :702.110. Menace \ 702.110a Menace is an evasion ability. \ 702.110b A creature with menace can’t be blocked except by two or more creatures. (See rule 509, “Declare Blockers Step.”) \ 702.110c Multiple instances of menace on the same creature are redundant. \ Menace \ An evasion ability that makes creatures unblockable by a single creature. See rule 702.110, “Menace.”
< 1575880377 410815 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, totally makes sense, yes
< 1575880437 452488 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :douthtouch is lifetouch just depends on which "bible" people go by
< 1575880450 669793 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are lots of regional variants
< 1575880517 755960 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-7.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deathtouch means damage this object deals to a creature will cause state based actions to destroy that creature even if the damage doesn't equal or exceed its toughness. There is no "lifetouch" in Magic: the Gathering, and I don't know what "douthtouch" means (is it like "deathtouch"?)
< 1575880571 198996 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :we have different bibles zzo38 :)
< 1575880593 690046 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-7.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I fail to see what the Bible has to do with it.
< 1575880658 794935 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :written by magicians
< 1575880813 914173 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-7.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do not understand.
< 1575880892 429964 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-186.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kingoffrance: card with dude holding up "the world" => do you mean https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Bembo-Visconti-tarot-arcanum-21-world.jpg or other https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/?curid=11291208 ?
< 1575881053 365772 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :theres a first coming set of catholic keys, and theres 2nd coming protestant keys basically
< 1575881064 787523 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so they are death touches w.r.t. each other
< 1575881082 571744 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-7.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought a card holding up the world might refer to one of the trumps in the tarot cards, but "on google right now", it is unclear
< 1575881085 331950 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :modern bibles are my death touch basically
< 1575881092 319972 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, the death touch that kills me
< 1575881096 358106 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-7.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Although I don't use Google much, so I don't know.)
< 1575881126 928855 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-7.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kingoffrance: OK, although I was discussing Magic: the Gathering cards, rather than Catholic and Protestant religions
< 1575881132 655587 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :keys are keys :/
< 1575881139 701273 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :death touches are death touches
< 1575881165 76940 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-186.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: "on google right now" means that he's looking at the image of such a card through the internet, potentially the very image that I linked
< 1575881294 942362 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-7.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: OK, but then he didn't say very clearly, at least to me
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< 1575881624 614813 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the google logo things
< 1575881628 47807 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :its some holiday or something
< 1575881644 332717 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how they shapeshift the google logo on www.google.com   might be gone now depending on your timezone
< 1575881678 994360 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-50-7.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, OK, now I looked. Yes it is still there.
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< 1575882021 794348 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-186.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so apparently the hoster of the Everyday Heroes and The Inexplicable Adventures of Bob webcomics has changed to one of those horrible hosts where you need to overload your computer with javascript ads before it is willing to show the webcomic, and even then you need one click to hide an ad and another to view the comic in full resolution. gocomics.com has already been such a webcomic host for a while, 
< 1575882027 789940 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-186.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but now there's another one.
< 1575882052 231683 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-186.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :either that, or their website is just plain broken. I haven't tried to get through their javascript yet, so I don't know if the comic behind it is actually accessible.
< 1575882067 326590 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-186.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll try some day when I feel more adventurous.
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< 1575917276 345319 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Can you do multivariate optimization?
< 1575917276 574553 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: it's finland! :) i'm stealing their hidden stash of alcohol. for some reason. it could spend n ticks to mark a certain spot, just to show that
< 1575917383 599810 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-230.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: not anymore. training the markov models isn't built into fungot, he gets the models already precompiled, and nobody knows how fizzie created those models lots of years ago
< 1575917383 648441 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: i was about to mention that
> 1575917383 978562 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Intcode14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67850&oldid=67849 5* 03Yay 5* (-36) 10/* Parameter Modes */ fix everything I broke
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< 1575917494 409778 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: I'm tackling Ponder This, and I'm doing stupid random hillclimbing instead of finding a proper tool for the job.
< 1575917527 418812 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm successful, mind you. But it feels wrong.
> 1575917531 630301 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Intcode14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67851&oldid=67850 5* 03Yay 5* (+1) 10/* Opcodes */
< 1575917597 741191 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-230.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: what's Ponder This? it's not Advent of Code, right?
< 1575917612 219974 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.research.ibm.com/haifa/ponderthis/challenges/December2019.html
< 1575917658 612999 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :A monthly puzzle by some IBM Research fault, has been going for over 20 years.
< 1575917740 654129 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-230.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting. I didn't know about that puzzle set
< 1575917877 162023 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-230.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, as for your original question, GSL https://www.gnu.org/software/gsl/ has multivariate numerical optimization with machine doubles, and has a C interface, including that you give it a C callback that computes the function you want to optimize and possibly its derivatives
< 1575917898 429593 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-230.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it calls it "Multidimensional Minimization"
< 1575917930 185729 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-230.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and there was a link, let me try to find it, about more software for multidimensional minimization,
< 1575917947 922607 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-230.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :plus you can find such libraries distributed with various computer algebra software
< 1575918006 563934 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-230.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the webpage that gives those links might be somewhere in the channel logs too
< 1575918811 776822 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-230.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :found it. int-e: http://plato.asu.edu/sub/pns.html list of numeric optimization software
< 1575918814 959744 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-230.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :look at that one
< 1575919105 518112 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :In fact, I do know how I created them. In fact, most of them were created almost exactly following the steps at https://github.com/fis/fungot/blob/master/varikn/readme.txt
< 1575919105 637516 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: so it *is* long, and how a distributed system needs to be a really slow aircraft, though,
< 1575919113 783072 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do not have a copy of the exact parameter values I used, so I can't quite recreate the same results from scratch, but it should be close enough.
< 1575919126 658751 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some of the older (better?) models were trained with a super-crummy C++ program, which I still have -- though I'm not sure if buildlm.cc, buildlm-old.cc or buildlm-old2.cc is the relevant version for each of them. I have no excuse for why it's not in version control, either.
> 1575919244 104932 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Fungot14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67852&oldid=67237 5* 03B jonas 5* (+153) 10link to dDescription of the software that was used to generate most of the markov models of fungot
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< 1575920847 557056 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh well I tweaked my code to the point where it finally seems to be approaching a local minimum.
< 1575920945 367967 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-230.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: good. nevertheless I recommend that list page, in case you meet a more complicated numeric optimization problem in the future
< 1575921722 444938 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: yeah it does look useful, thanks.
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< 1575979034 179113 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi
< 1575979036 179185 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :got a problem
< 1575979133 909655 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have a graph with 142k nodes and 2.5mil edges
< 1575979163 475976 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i want to compute the diameter
< 1575979657 801970 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do i make this problem tractable?
< 1575979694 49183 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Solve the problem of making yourself not want that?
< 1575979702 124718 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i really want that
< 1575979712 949707 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :and cloud computing is cheap
< 1575979756 496183 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i need a way to distrubute the floyd warshall algorithm across different machines
< 1575979790 257772 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :in a smart way so that machines try to do as much as they can locally and don't always compete for shared resources
< 1575979841 122618 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www3.nd.edu/~tweninge/pubs/PW_HPGM.pdf here is a paper
< 1575979849 664201 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It might even be helpful
< 1575980194 910357 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know if I'd use floyd warshall to compute the diameter in this case at all
< 1575980218 531169 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, given the graph is simple, you can already calculate an upper bound of the diameter
< 1575980252 212784 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :how?
< 1575980470 736227 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a tough one I maybe think about later, but I just assumed that you can make assertions about cycle lengths which in turn will reduce the diameter
< 1575980553 841643 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, if you have at leas as much edges as you have nodes, you will have a cycle of at least length 3 reducing the diameter from a maximum of n to a maximum of n-1
< 1575980773 81676 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i can do dijkstra from each node to every other node
< 1575980796 949011 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's trivially parallelisable by just having a local copy of the adjacency matrix on each machine
< 1575980902 413103 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this stupid?
< 1575981020 719227 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this really an advantage over a normal floyd warshall?
< 1575981087 8047 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know how to split it across machines
< 1575981098 934106 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :well
< 1575981102 844719 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok i'm dumb
< 1575981104 869944 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :no
< 1575981119 335823 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you will need to have at least n^3/(n log n) processes for that to be faster
< 1575981159 125040 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :with floyd warshall you'd need to write to the shared cache all the time
< 1575981166 778842 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you parallelise that?
< 1575981304 713521 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure, that's why I wouldn't use that :D
< 1575981326 942699 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just want an algorithm that's reasonably fast and that can be split
< 1575981619 769924 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, but I would assume there exists a reasonably parallelizable algorithm to calculate the diameter of a graph that does not rely on calculating each distance and finding the maximum in those
< 1575981702 771207 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, if you can give an upper bound on the diameter (which I believe you can), you may be able to parallelise the search based on clusters of size g(max diameter)
< 1575981904 916999 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have a strong feeling that the diameter is like 7
< 1575981914 284780 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i'm not sure
< 1575981997 76675 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :altho i'm not sure i understand how your idea works
< 1575982092 428582 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am thinking about generating a transitive hull and check for completeness of the resulting graph
< 1575982121 39603 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that might work
< 1575982924 779482 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here's another paper: https://www.ntu.edu.sg/home/arijit.khan/Papers/vertex_centric_edbt17.pdf
< 1575982981 556759 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know if it's any good, but it's got a "vertex-centric" algorithm for a diameter, and there are things to parallelize algorithms like that, like our "Pregel".
< 1575983033 686085 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(TBH, it doesn't look particularly efficient, more a toy example.)
< 1575983475 639499 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: https://pregel.it/en/
< 1575983478 602228 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks delicious
< 1575983554 556819 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://blog.acolyer.org/2015/05/26/pregel-a-system-for-large-scale-graph-processing/
< 1575983558 692079 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems like a google thing
< 1575983563 777128 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :didn't know that you're at google
< 1575984980 37637 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: did you look at the PDF I linked
< 1575985193 804624 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't go around advertising it, though it's not a secret either.
< 1575985342 935327 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: i'm dumb and it's complicated
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< 1575991339 577663 :LBPHacker!lbphacker@trigraph.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol wut
< 1575991369 737919 :LBPHacker!lbphacker@trigraph.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(ignore me, my client is acting up)
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< 1575991558 520435 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: re computing diameter, that looks borderline. do you have enough RAM to allocate a square matrix whose width and height is the number of points, or at least a triangular half of it? the elements themselves can be small, probably single bytes, possibly two bytes if the diameter is large. 
< 1575991576 731770 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you do have enough RAM for that, then use Floyd's algorithm to compute the pairwise distances
< 1575991648 842190 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not an impossibly large amount of memory these days, you can probably borrow some time on a machine with that much RAM
< 1575991680 75234 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: are there edge weights?
< 1575991821 947137 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is computing a single transitivity step for a graph in matrix form that hard?
< 1575991931 244292 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you suspect that the diameter is small, then you can optimize it well, you don't need a full Floyd
< 1575991950 852130 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it still won't be fast, but it will be much faster and easier than trying to figure out some distributed solution
< 1575992059 94650 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you don't have enough RAM, then yes, run an individual BFS from each node, to make sure that you can reach all nodes of the graph in few steps
< 1575992088 41729 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact, that's probably faster than anything with a full matrix, because your graph is sparse enough
< 1575992102 997351 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so ignore my previous idea about a large matrix and floyd's algorithm
< 1575992126 427136 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you said your graph is very sparse, so just do a BFS from each individual node to find the distance of the farthest node from there
< 1575992238 892391 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suggest that you implement the DFS using two arrays with one bit each for each node, to know which one you've visited in the previous step and the current step, and passes of reading through the edge list in sequence
< 1575992275 791495 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suggest sorting the edge list for some speedup
< 1575992350 429462 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: ^ that would work reasonably fast for a graph of small diameter, because you're reading the edge list sequentially, and you only need to access 284000 bits i.e. 35 kilobytes random access 
< 1575992439 532738 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you double the edge list, making it an arc list (storing each edge in both directions) and sort it by destination node, the you only need random access to one of the bit arrays and sequential access to the other bit array, so the array with random access just fits in the L1 cache
< 1575992450 446435 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that's what I'd recommend
< 1575992455 37746 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth
< 1575992573 894055 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is assuming that the graph is confidental or you want to solve it yourself; otherwise just publish the graph and offer money to people for computing the diameter
< 1575992720 744706 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :require solvers to give not only the diameter, but the indexes of two nodes that are that far apart, so you can verify easily
< 1575992820 161009 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah yes, the O(incentive) approach
< 1575992976 711579 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wib_jonas: that would not suffice
< 1575993006 169899 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can easily claim the diameter being 1 and give you two nodes with a distance of 1
< 1575993188 829498 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you would need to have at least one honest participant
< 1575993204 770402 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: it doesn't suffice, but your solution doesn't work, because izabera can find the submission that claims the highest diameter, and run a single breadth-first search from one of the nodes that it claims to find the distance of the two nodes that it claims, and if that's 7 then that proves your submission incorrect
< 1575993234 445129 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the failure case is that everyone claims a diameter that is lower than the actual one
< 1575993248 490580 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or that izabera is DOSed by too many incorrect submissions
< 1575993335 364764 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: also the spec said "i have a graph with 142k nodes and 2.5mil edges", that's not a complete graph so the diameter can't be 1
< 1575993373 100348 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well yeah, but i should be able to find some nodes with distance 3 pretty easily
< 1575993429 427067 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, couldn't you just contract parts of the graph?
< 1575993516 760130 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, if you have a path of length n > 1, you could just make that into a path of length 1 with a weight of n
< 1575993548 131614 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you do end on a complete graph, you just need to find the biggest weight
< 1575993600 237341 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or you could just split the graph in half, substitute the missing half with a new node and try some clever merging of paths, that run through that
< 1575993680 720711 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(paths meaning longest distance travels between two nodes in the later case)
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< 1575996563 112196 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf is this "The download cannot be saved because an unknown error occurred."
< 1575996677 24243 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, it's me, more specifically umatrix interfering in a way I have not identified before--it categorizes the request as "other" and blocks it. Fine.
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< 1576002461 912003 :mroman!b2c5e0d3@178.197.224.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh. long time no see I guess
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< 1576002581 164044 :mroman!b2c5e0d3@178.197.224.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://pastebin.com/EcuX91Hk <- and I'm already back at doing useless things.
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< 1576008327 72209 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-135.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? 4
< 1576008329 584368 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​`4 <cmd> is equivalent to `5 <cmd>, except that it only repeats 4 times. Useful when you've already run a command forgetting to use `5.
< 1576008745 887752 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-135.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't people invent normal names for these brainfuck-equivalents?
< 1576008787 988836 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-135.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, I'm not sure I'm allowed to complain, given how I name things
< 1576010218 214860 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.35.79.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: how?
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< 1576017072 444088 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: I've solved the AoC problems so far over the past 6 hours.
< 1576017113 344098 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Today's AoC challenge: Prove that every vector space has a basis.
< 1576017124 972555 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :KISS is such a powerful principle.
< 1576017143 962688 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea how long I've spent, because the timing starts from what's 5am here.
< 1576017179 742160 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Guess I could extrapolate from the delta between part 1 and part 2 though.
< 1576017187 959402 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can still keep track of the time *you* spend.
< 1576017195 74519 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but not retroactively. :)
< 1576017199 459735 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right.
< 1576017201 761324 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, maybe from file timestamps.
< 1576017221 579816 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm extrapolating from part 1 of the 1st day ;)
< 1576017240 784611 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll lose track if I continue doing this.
< 1576017250 744602 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :The leaderboard scoring is atrocious, btw.
< 1576017284 534652 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm kind of happy it is, because otherwise I'd probably start caring about it.
< 1576017300 245247 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(In fact I did today's right when it opened, because happened to be awake.)
< 1576017358 55704 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fortunately it's fun enough to just write those things.
< 1576017583 513241 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :for the later problems I could reconstruct things reasonably well by the file stamps of the inputs
< 1576017634 714476 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, or maybe not. I have not been consistent about downloading the input when I start.
< 1576017647 175408 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh well, who really cares.
< 1576017722 70326 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-135.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: https://www.xkcd.com/804/ I told you not to take the axiom of choice
< 1576017954 383157 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh, perhaps somebody cares: wc counts of what I've produced: http://paste.debian.net/1120577/
< 1576018210 185928 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think my Python's been more verbose.
< 1576018232 370622 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://ix.io/245v
< 1576018270 794061 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, same order of magnitude.
< 1576018391 640933 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Flatter directory structure though.)
< 1576018433 892845 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I expected slightly harder problem (so more exploration)
< 1576018461 389456 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's still nice not having to rename the 'input' files, but it's a minor thing.
< 1576018477 436195 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also I broke the Intcode API once so having copies is actually healthy.
< 1576018510 591997 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sharing, that's why I have test.py (which runs all the day*.py and compares their outputs to a golden copy).
< 1576018523 154749 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although from the "your Intcode computer is now complete", maybe there won't be any more.
< 1576018572 905886 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure I was doing these some previous year as well, but no idea where I've stashed the solutions.
< 1576018597 870268 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, the 2019 is a bit silly :)
< 1576018658 871834 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :To be fair, 'aoc2019' is the only thing in my '~/src/puzzles'. Not because there haven't been any puzzles, I just think I've used ~/tmp, ~/src/misc, or whatever.
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< 1576020458 167093 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.35.79.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.xkcd.com/2235 haha
< 1576022071 365944 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.35.79.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :luckily AoC can be googled by “aoc of code”; just "AoC" in quotes gives bizarre results, apparently lacking respect for mixed case in queries
< 1576022181 970394 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :quick, we need an axiom of code
< 1576023104 876216 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Quit: Sleep
< 1576024390 86577 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Axiom of Verge.
< 1576025911 601695 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: do you plundervolt?
< 1576025911 718217 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: not the nth? i didn't vote for either of these been used for any significant sites?
< 1576026688 728646 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.35.79.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: what is your nth-child?
< 1576026688 932962 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :arseniiv: not if you stopped working on it, or lump it.' many compilers will optimize them to the site and got the most interesting code is in
< 1576026717 114164 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.35.79.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :a poor optimized child
< 1576026766 465552 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.35.79.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: I’d prefer an axiom of chocolate!
< 1576026774 612587 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.35.79.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe not
< 1576026822 264445 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :axiom of chocolate: the darker the better
< 1576026869 339893 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Though honestly I'm not sure about the 90%+ area.)
< 1576026889 4258 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone had left some super-bitter "98%" or whatever chocolate at the snack area, I think that was kind of overdoing it.
< 1576026901 411807 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There were like six or eight different kinds, and they were all like that.
< 1576026907 699186 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sure it's healthty, but still.
< 1576026944 107151 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, I don't eat chocolate because it's healthy (or not)
< 1576027010 635240 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I just realized that I have some 85% chocolate around.
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< 1576027038 402558 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :And that's quite good :)
< 1576027225 995218 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That sounds reasonable enough.
< 1576027269 315225 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had some super high % chocolate and found that it was ... dry, almost dusty.
< 1576027284 93989 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like B-trees?
< 1576027302 868303 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't like dark chocolate.
< 1576027310 83220 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :So yeah, I share some super dark chocolate skepticism.
< 1576027338 583362 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: What's the difference between B+ and B* trees?
< 1576027377 871002 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think there are a lot of different points in B-tree design space, and people named a few of those points, but mostly not the ones I actually want to use.
< 1576027415 732794 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :B+ trees store values only in the leaves (reasonable), and also have links between leaf nodes (is that that important?).
< 1576027439 337475 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :B* trees will share keys with both left and right siblings, I think, so nodes can be 2/3 full?
< 1576027468 153083 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The point is: I thought B-trees were annoying and complicated until recently, when I thought about them. Now I think they're simple.
< 1576027485 689030 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, is that that important --> for external storage, I imagine it may help for linear scans?
< 1576027525 650987 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure. I mean, it seems like a reasonable optimization for some uses, but you make lots of those when you implement things in practice.
< 1576027528 725945 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(But I didn't really expect any answers.)
< 1576027795 743499 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: do you like side-stepping questions?
< 1576027795 831441 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: that wraps functions... and just eval it in some ways
< 1576027807 75921 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, which question did I side-step?
< 1576027819 174710 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: that wasn't about you
< 1576027837 126383 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've realized that I've identified a thing that *I* like.
< 1576027839 180490 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But everything is about me.
< 1576027891 460137 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Fine. You were the muse, the catalyst.
< 1576027917 144297 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? shachaf
< 1576027919 100431 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :Queen Shachaf of the Dawn sprø som selleri and cosplays Nepeta Leijon on weekends. He hates bell peppers with a passion. He doesn't know when to stop asking questions. We don't like this.
< 1576027938 5136 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn shachaf sprø som selleri and is the muse, the catalyst.
< 1576027974 136908 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :No more passion fruits?
< 1576028000 797373 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? bell pepper
< 1576028002 120238 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :bell pepper? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1576028015 368730 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa
< 1576028021 394876 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unicode has two code points with the same name?
< 1576028039 725351 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+7 and U+1F514
< 1576028102 981600 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I knew that once.
< 1576028173 495708 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :No bell pepper? Only 🌶...
< 1576028197 562154 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google 🔔🌶
< 1576028199 107817 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.dailykos.com/story/2019/4/19/1849291/-PWB-Freidai-Follies-and-Foolishness
< 1576028199 114330 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Title: Уведомление о переадресации
< 1576028267 499300 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Weird page. Oh well, I don't know what I was trying to find there anyway.
< 1576028323 477371 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``unidecode 🗭 # not for Democrats?
< 1576028324 212221 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​`unidecode? No such file or directory
< 1576028328 613377 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` unidecode 🗭 # not for Democrats?
< 1576028330 92652 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+1F5ED RIGHT THOUGHT BUBBLE]
< 1576028362 492457 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` unidecode 🗬 # this one also exists, of course
< 1576028364 230713 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+1F5EC LEFT THOUGHT BUBBLE]
< 1576028404 350640 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` unidecode 🗯 # haha!
< 1576028411 967127 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+1F5EF RIGHT ANGER BUBBLE]
< 1576028423 860927 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where's my RIGHTEOUS ANGER BUBBLE?
< 1576028513 465358 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? shachaf
< 1576028514 656369 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :Queen Shachaf of the Dawn sprø som selleri and cosplays Nepeta Leijon on weekends. He hates bell peppers with a passion. He doesn't know when to stop asking questions. We don't like this.
< 1576028528 757218 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is missing something
< 1576028617 104666 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, a ^O.
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< 1576036365 146048 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: hh and cc or hpp and cpp?
< 1576036365 227190 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: someone is either up very late, which can be checked
< 1576036681 353833 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :h and cc hth
< 1576036764 733809 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :h++ and c++ hth
< 1576036795 137099 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm
< 1576036798 158234 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :h and c hth
< 1576036880 145608 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: But I like a language strictly between C and C++... basically C++ without dynamic methods (and consequently, very limited inheritance).
< 1576036899 256201 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :dynamic -> virtual
< 1576036969 795885 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the benefit of inheritance at all?
< 1576037068 642314 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can still have some limited aggregation going on.
< 1576037109 864489 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only extending interfaces and functionality... no overloading of methods or things will quickly become insane.
< 1576037166 396471 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(virtual methods are what keep this sane)
< 1576037215 338538 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, are you for or against virtual methods?
< 1576037219 611641 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :The main thing I want is that every (struct/class) type has an associated namespace.
< 1576037262 901993 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: It depends? They are essential for OO. I don't want to do OO though.
< 1576037265 349896 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been wondering how important that is for a while.
< 1576037292 449610 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a big advantage to x.f() over foo(x)?
< 1576037329 494271 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I meant x.foo(), of course.
< 1576037332 439387 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Little, if you can overload foo().
< 1576037405 5136 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :But C can't overload functions either.
< 1576037446 583096 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think there's an advantage over having x.foo() or foo(x) vs. having to write type_foo(x) where 'type' happens to be the type of x.
< 1576037504 482209 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not a very fast typist, so that kind of redundancy really hurts.
< 1576037651 159647 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also find chaining of operations attractive... if you have  struct T { T &set_foo(); T &set_bar(); }; T t; and do t.set_foo().set_bar().
< 1576037740 192375 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like (T){.foo = x, .bar = y};
< 1576037753 509524 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which C has had for 20 years and maybe C++ is finally getting?
< 1576037839 974104 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, if you were to add methods to structs in C I might consider using it again ;) )
< 1576037862 936904 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :type_foo has the benefit that you can search for it.
< 1576037910 388125 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, we all rationalize our own choices.
< 1576037934 444461 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I said a few lines ago that I've been wondering about it for a while.
< 1576037949 2120 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :In particular I mean that I'm not sure whether it's a good idea or not.
< 1576038101 937947 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't help C's case that it's largely a subset of C++. (The field initialisers are a good point, of course.)
< 1576038140 118089 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :So basically the moment a person (like me) finds /anything/ they like in C++, they are tempted to switch.
< 1576038211 451157 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa, I just realized how my own program worked.
< 1576038218 269096 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Btw I also find the  iostream  and  iomanip  stuff cute.
< 1576038220 148161 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had a bug which turned out to be a clever trick.
< 1576038237 401761 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It did exactly the right thing. I'm going to document it and pretend it was what I meant to do all along.
< 1576038268 325110 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait a minute, no. Hmm.
< 1576038268 922392 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Been a while since I've done that, but yeah... those are interesting experiences.
< 1576038309 36725 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, the last time was actually code that I /knew/ couldn't work, that turned out to work /most/ of the time (much more often than it reasonably should), but not always :)
< 1576038339 600893 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was really glad when I finally discovered that it did, in fact, break.
< 1576038380 983029 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(This was with last month's Ponder This, in code updating determinants which worked with insufficient precision... and still produced exact results most of the time.)
< 1576038397 331502 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://slbkbs.org/tmp/b-trees.txt
< 1576038500 40255 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :The time before that was an overzealous (by my understanding at the time of writing it) check in a combinatorial search procedure which I could later justify to actually be valid (for quite subtle reasons).
< 1576038538 284217 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"overzealous check" -- this was for pruning a search tree, so I pruned more than I thought I could.
< 1576038657 365238 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: funny, I always think of B+-trees as 2-3-4-trees, only wider.
< 1576038682 354690 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :And 2-3-4-trees are 2-3-trees with lazier splitting.
< 1576038699 679268 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I always think of red-black trees as 2-3-4 trees.
< 1576038732 495923 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Are B- -trees those that can have between n and 2n-1 children at each node?)
< 1576038762 459891 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I usually don't think of red-black trees at all.
< 1576038788 340845 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you know they just encode 2-3-4 trees?
< 1576038835 469082 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, I like this array perspective.
< 1576038841 427452 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah, if I have to, I collapse it to a 2-3-4 tree.
< 1576038862 284539 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think just about all the operations are obvious from this viewpoint.
< 1576038876 17417 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :AVL trees make so much more sense to me.
< 1576039028 189554 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I think the array perspective is one of many possible views and it's impossible to say which view clicks for any particular person.
< 1576039140 335470 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Obviously /some/ sort of array is inherent in any Bx-tree because a flat array is what you get for very small data sets.
< 1576039168 815226 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, I've written a bunch of B-tree code in the past, I was already familiar with the data structure.
< 1576039182 495329 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :And observing some sort of chunking at the leafs when you flatten the tree is also inevitable.
< 1576039233 219813 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :But whether you view the thing top-down, emphasizing the tree structure, or bottom-up, empahsizing the (chunked) flattened array... is up to you.
< 1576039332 778565 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you do it bottom-up, you get intermediate forests as you group consecutive chunks under a common ancestor node.
< 1576039358 497146 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it's arrays all the way up. ;)
< 1576039366 586971 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :But trees all the way down.
< 1576039409 440742 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's plausibly reasonable to use different kinds of indexing for blocks and for values.
< 1576039422 991623 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since they're very different sizes.
< 1576039570 756778 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Btw, I don't know if anything of what I just wrote made any sense. But I'm very happy with the last two lines.
< 1576039694 653345 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, bedtime.
< 1576039810 65995 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :C++'s std::map is usually a red-black tree.
< 1576039812 237425 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure why.
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< 1576054821 789681 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-135.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: C++ std::map interface is defined such that when you modify the tree, the address of the contained items doesn't change (unless you erase that specific item), nor can the iterator to items. that negates some of the advantages of better B-trees. it could still use a B-tree with the items accessible through an extra pointer or index, but it's easier to just put every item in a separate node that 
< 1576054827 796953 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-135.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :never moves like a B-tree does.
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< 1576055066 606213 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, that's a good reason not to use std::map.
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< 1576055590 60028 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: did you figure out graphs?
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< 1576059409 728409 :cpressey!~cpressey@5.133.242.4 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good morning. Here's a kooky juxtaposition for y'all: The Löwenheim-Skolem theorem says that if a logic has an infinite model, it has a countable one. Meanwhile there's this folk theorem in programming: if a program requires a loop, then it can be written with a single loop.
< 1576059429 146723 :cpressey!~cpressey@5.133.242.4 PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/logic/theory/
< 1576059767 907143 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh
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< 1576060764 486514 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: I think that latter is Dijkstra's "Go To Statement Considered Harmful" theorem, though it was probably known before Dijkstra, because people had cpus with a single loop that fetches instructions then executes them
< 1576060983 974081 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: "https://esolangs.org/wiki/(0)" may be relevant for some infinite versions
< 1576061553 660705 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why is deletion so complicated?
> 1576061585 78311 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Oklomsy 5*  10New user account
< 1576061665 330508 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: that's the tradeoff about AVL trees versus B-trees or related. AVL trees have more complicated algorithms in general, but fast and simple deletion; B-trees and red-black trees have simple algorithms, but deletion can take O(log(n)) time.
< 1576061758 938147 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't care about about it being slow, right now, just complicated.
< 1576061782 881419 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Surely AVL tree deletion takes logarithmic time, anyway.
> 1576061861 298850 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67875&oldid=67846 5* 03Oklomsy 5* (+251) 10/* Introductions */
< 1576061964 508877 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: hmm, I might be misremembering, let me check the Knuth book
< 1576062028 651913 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Man.
< 1576062028 855775 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: you should look at the Okasaki book's description of red-black trees if you want a simple one
< 1576062033 572250 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I shouldn't be doing B+ trees?
< 1576062043 91855 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not interested in red-black trees.
< 1576062048 250555 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :red-black trees look very complicated to me at first, but when Okasaki explains them, they're simpler
< 1576062087 882017 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: well, what data structure you want depends on what you want it for. for storing on a disk that you read in sectors/clusters/blocks, some sort of B-tree with high degree is usually better
< 1576062101 807683 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Binary trees are scow.
< 1576062118 830305 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: also you could try to use a library written by someone else, such as that B-tree library from the future that ais523 will write
< 1576062143 91793 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why?
< 1576062342 431389 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok sorry, I was wrong. AVL tree deletion may require you to modify O(height) nodes
< 1576062359 741077 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :its insertion of a single node into AVL trees that is faster, because it requires you to adjust only O(1) nodes
< 1576062372 381986 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whereas with a B-tree, an insertion may require you to adjust O(log n) nodes
< 1576062407 590522 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: because if someone else already wrote a good and well-tested library, it's less likely to be buggy than if you write one
< 1576062423 311582 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and there are a lot of balanced search tree libraries out there
> 1576062613 424382 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Furcode14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=67876 5* 03Oklomsy 5* (+36) 10Created page with "Furcode  [[Category:Joke_languages]]"
> 1576062651 559162 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Furcode14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67877&oldid=67876 5* 03Oklomsy 5* (-36) 10Blanked the page
> 1576062760 675952 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Dd14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67878&oldid=67864 5* 03Dart 5* (+275) 10Added a shorter implementation
> 1576063213 295907 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Esolang:Sandbox14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67879&oldid=67276 5* 03Oklomsy 5* (+621) 10
> 1576063264 59769 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Esolang:Sandbox14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67880&oldid=67879 5* 03Oklomsy 5* (-584) 10
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> 1576064334 984500 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Furcode14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67882&oldid=67877 5* 03Oklomsy 5* (+2023) 10
> 1576064565 800929 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Furcode14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67883&oldid=67882 5* 03Oklomsy 5* (+653) 10
> 1576064599 321368 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Furcode14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67884&oldid=67883 5* 03Oklomsy 5* (+6) 10/* Bash interpreter */
> 1576065022 300301 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Furcode14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67885&oldid=67884 5* 03Dart 5* (-1486) 10There is no point copying the code to the page if there's already a link
> 1576065457 20947 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Joke language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67886&oldid=67706 5* 03Oklomsy 5* (+71) 10
> 1576065610 239452 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Dd14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67887&oldid=67881 5* 03Dart 5* (-20) 10
> 1576065612 92690 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Oklomsy14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=67888 5* 03Oklomsy 5* (+148) 10Created page with "Hello! Welcome to my page, I am [[User:Oklomsy|Oklomsy]] I am the creator of [[Furcode]]  I live in Denmark, and my life isn't interesting at all..."
> 1576066147 247402 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Furcode14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67889&oldid=67885 5* 03Oklomsy 5* (+10) 10/* Interpreters */
> 1576066204 978524 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Furcode14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67890&oldid=67889 5* 03Oklomsy 5* (-1) 10Marked the broken intrepeter
> 1576066512 454418 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Special:Log/upload14]]4 upload10 02 5* 03Oklomsy 5*  10uploaded "[[02File:Krazykat.png10]]": A picture of a crazy cat!
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> 1576083274 598280 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Long14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=67895 5* 03Hex96 5* (+368) 10Created page with "Long is an esolang that really should not exist.  The HELLO world program is this: <pre> Dwhhwxjwxgxshsxuxsysxhhaxhdhsxhsxhsxh print(string101010100101111001010101010101010101..."
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< 1576083811 467155 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :... so wrong, so nice: pl = read . ("[" ++) . (++ "]")
< 1576084560 170032 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh?
< 1576084576 526526 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah
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< 1576087221 174446 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh yay, another variation on the intcode interpreter.
< 1576087289 408452 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Purity means that synchronizing input and output takes extra effort... and as it turns out, that was not really required.)
< 1576087405 877850 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(while the description says that the hull painting robot can use input instructions all the time, the actual program nicely follows the patter of reading one input, then producing two outputs)
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< 1576087612 603590 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've also started to abuse pattern guards a lot...
< 1576087632 57468 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let f x | x <- x+1, x <- x*2 = x in f 4
< 1576087636 311409 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 10
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< 1576087921 403710 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, my prediction that we'd've seen all of Intcode got obsolete in record time.
< 1576088271 121017 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The one I have now has four I/O mechanisms. One to stdin/out with prompts for interactive use, one that's reads from / writes to a list for earlier problems, one which uses Python's thread-safe queues because I made that feedback loop actually run technically in parallel (I'm sure it's always 4/5 blocking for input though) and now one with just a pair of generic callback functions that do the robot.
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< 1576088470 75417 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :evolution: http://paste.debian.net/1120691/
< 1576088477 171745 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(very minor spoiler)
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< 1576088672 625552 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh the day 2 one didn't have a type signature, but it would've been Int -> [Int] -> [Int].
< 1576088719 365045 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe we'll see Intcode every second day? :)
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< 1576088760 475369 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: do you like Langton's ant?
< 1576088760 586070 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: ( and t f)) if you prefer; the effect is unspecified.
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> 1576090418 382635 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Intcode14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67901&oldid=67851 5* 03Int-e 5* (+244) 10/* Example Programs */ Langton's ant
> 1576090723 537907 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Intcode14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67902&oldid=67901 5* 03Int-e 5* (+3) 10days
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< 1576094522 687310 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-234.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, are raspberries better than strawberries?
< 1576094522 784513 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: i am using the fluid-let syntax ( very similar to fnord
< 1576094701 167087 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-234.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, that Intcode stuff, is that also about the Advent of Code? good for you. I'm busy doing ugly real-world stuff for work so I didn't bother with that now
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> 1576096725 703633 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Intcode14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67903&oldid=67902 5* 03Int-e 5* (-78) 10/* Hello, World! */ a working hello world (the previous version executed undefined opcodes, apparently assuming they would be skipped)
> 1576099905 871332 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Intcode14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67904&oldid=67903 5* 03Int-e 5* (+158) 10Restructure, improve consistency, reduce direct quotes from AoC site, and use less emphasis.
> 1576100011 318202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Intcode14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67905&oldid=67904 5* 03Int-e 5* (+3) 10missed a spot, as usual...
< 1576100573 828817 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hrm, what are the alternatives to  https://esolangs.org/wiki/Category:Usability_unknown ?
< 1576100978 318394 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-234.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: https://esolangs.org/wiki/Category:Unusable_for_programming
< 1576101177 562081 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-234.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: the Categorization page seems to say to me that there's no special category for languages that are usable for programming, I assume because most esolangs should be usable for programming, notwithstanding the large amounts of "brainfuck with some extra instructions but the loops can't nest" nonsense that some users post
> 1576101179 810643 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Intcode14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67906&oldid=67905 5* 03Int-e 5* (+501) 10Computational class, sort categories.
> 1576101260 667751 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Intcode14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67907&oldid=67906 5* 03Int-e 5* (-31) 10I believe Intcode (as of now) is eminently usable for programming
< 1576101263 282117 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: thanks
< 1576101305 2919 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-234.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but, as always, I may just be inventing things, don't trust me when I talk about esolang community traditions
< 1576101366 800270 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION shrugs.
< 1576101389 867965 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I take responsibility for the edit, obviously. It's no big deal, it's a wiki, people can overrule things.
< 1576101431 997963 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( let's rename it to int-code )
< 1576102114 544509 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: How's your SAT learning experience going?
< 1576102158 198378 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I was asleep the last few times you talked about it.
< 1576103128 210957 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Haven't touched it since the last time I talked about it here, I think.
< 1576104100 996228 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-234.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :for a change, I'm listening to such pop music where the lyrics is pronounced clearly so I can understand every word without refering to a transcript of the lyrics
< 1576104122 796111 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"enunciates well"
< 1576104188 547477 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-234.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, that
< 1576104214 270454 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-234.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :though it also slightly helps that these ones are in Hungarian
< 1576104235 348293 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's actually a remarkably awful google search term...
< 1576104246 711463 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or at least duckduckgo search term.
< 1576104289 969485 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-234.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is?
< 1576104299 614260 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :The thing in quotes.
< 1576104354 949251 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"awful" in the sense that none of the hits look in any way interesting... rather they look like actual reviews of singers and speakers of no significance.
< 1576104382 983428 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not "awful" in the goatse sense.
< 1576104443 135429 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-234.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it's not particularly specific
< 1576104451 922051 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-234.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are lots of things you could enunciate well or badly
< 1576104655 939262 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-234.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :some other times I like to Youtube binge for multiple performances of the same piece of music or poem. it can be interesting to compare them
< 1576104686 737726 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-234.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean multiple good performances by different bands or performers
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< 1576106009 472380 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-234.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the songs on this album vary a lot in how well the lyrics matches the rhythm of the music
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> 1576125441 474380 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Grime MC14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=67908 5* 03IFcoltransG 5* (+319) 10Created page with "Is this the sort of language where an interpreter would be impossible because it's subjective what a lyric means, or does it have a finite set of possible commands? If the lat..."
> 1576126576 498145 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07StackBeat14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67909&oldid=37539 5* 03IFcoltransG 5* (+1) 10/* Other notes */ Typo
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< 1576148238 696281 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages?
< 1576148238 702883 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, no messages today.
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< 1576148324 327575 :bunnyocte!b2c5e16e@178.197.225.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm.
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< 1576148387 647761 :bunnyocto!b2c5e16e@178.197.225.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no rename command on freenode?
< 1576148454 243908 :bunnyocto!b2c5e16e@178.197.225.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe it was /nick and not /rename 
< 1576148458 259487 :bunnyocto!b2c5e16e@178.197.225.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah yep
< 1576148699 116476 :bunnyocto!b2c5e16e@178.197.225.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aight. let me check out the newest bf derivatives.
< 1576149198 656119 :bunnyocto!b2c5e16e@178.197.225.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :verify register bunnyocto azdixccwwmkk
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< 1576150019 929584 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome bunnyocto 
< 1576150023 424613 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​08bunnyocto: 09Welcome 02to 06the 13international 04hub 07for 08esoteric 09programming 02language 06design 13and 04deployment! 07For 08more 09information, 02check 06out 13our 04wiki: 07<https://esolangs.org/>. 08(For 09the 02other 06kind 13of 04esoterica, 07try 08#esoteric 09on 02EFnet 06or 13DALnet.)
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< 1576150206 599347 :bunnyocto!b2c5e16e@178.197.225.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: hi
< 1576150207 26421 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :bunnyocto: ah well... thanks to intel addressing modes and variable-length opcodes it's not that
< 1576150381 208831 :bunnyocto!b2c5e16e@178.197.225.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :github workflows has a weird directory structure
< 1576150395 95556 :bunnyocto!b2c5e16e@178.197.225.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's /reponame/reponame
< 1576151082 50638 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :g'fternoon
< 1576151493 724857 :bunnyocto!b2c5e16e@178.197.225.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :github deprecated integrations?
< 1576151497 497645 :bunnyocto!b2c5e16e@178.197.225.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do I do CI Now then?
< 1576151514 656685 :bunnyocto!b2c5e16e@178.197.225.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like require pull requests to have passing tests.
< 1576152485 441230 :bunnyocto!b2c5e16e@178.197.225.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lel I can't review my own pull requests.
< 1576152487 829365 :bunnyocto!b2c5e16e@178.197.225.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm.
< 1576152496 560569 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.35.79.dynamic.ufanet.ru JOIN :#esoteric
< 1576153090 801516 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oops, I believe I accidently got some AoC points.
< 1576153120 594051 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, no. Phew.
< 1576154386 271883 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Do you think surjections have right inverses?
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< 1576155392 242566 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: depends
< 1576155544 752156 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh there are actually two issues here.
< 1576155600 774389 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :One of convention, and one of choice.
< 1576155602 346221 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: I got some for the one time I was awake at 5am, and now I have to fight the urge to try again. :/
< 1576155627 750952 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I was awake. I deliberately didn't look.
< 1576155696 623183 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the axiom of convention?
< 1576155701 336466 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :And now I was worried that today's second part was really hard so I might have earned points for it, but only because I momentarily misread the statistics page.
< 1576155723 403928 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: The conventional issue is which way function composition composes.
< 1576155906 175083 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Also I had trouble connecting dots... while I typed "AoC" I thought and read the whole "Advent of Code".
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< 1576156040 333878 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, sure.
< 1576156049 861051 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What should I call f and g such that f.g = id?
< 1576156191 767169 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :f is a left inverse of g; g is a right inverse of f
< 1576156197 413900 :bunnyocto!b2c5e16e@178.197.225.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yup
< 1576156238 435527 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's pretty uncontroversial this far.
< 1576156250 988045 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think those are pretty confusing terms.
< 1576156267 629614 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But if you say that's uncontroversial, where's the controvery?
< 1576156288 688595 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :doe (f.g)(x) = f(g(x)) or (f.g)(x) = g(f(x))?
< 1576156292 408235 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :*does
< 1576156304 288666 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the confusion.
< 1576156340 932692 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how so? it's clearly the first
< 1576156350 665167 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :The latter happens in some category theory texts.
< 1576156355 572371 :bunnyocto!b2c5e16e@178.197.225.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :f(g(x)) is the usual convention?
< 1576156373 66975 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because they want (.) : (a -> b) -> (b -> c) -> (a -> c)
< 1576156380 332316 :bunnyocto!b2c5e16e@178.197.225.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also it's the haskell way thus muh
< 1576156387 79231 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the inner -> are abstract anyway.
< 1576156407 30307 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :As much as I like Haskell, it's not defining the world.
< 1576156416 397499 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, there are people that are using \subset for implication
< 1576156420 755696 :bunnyocto!b2c5e16e@178.197.225.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? it isn't?
< 1576156421 104769 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't like that
< 1576156423 839188 :bunnyocto!b2c5e16e@178.197.225.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why am I using it then.
< 1576156439 17077 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :not \subset... \supset
< 1576156455 220881 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :right
< 1576156458 578769 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :still hate it
< 1576156463 117854 :bunnyocto!b2c5e16e@178.197.225.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, but (f.g) x = f ( g ( x ) ) is more intuitive imo
< 1576156476 985017 :bunnyocto!b2c5e16e@178.197.225.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that may just be because I'm accustomed to it
< 1576156504 758291 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the definition I am used to from math classes
< 1576156510 274045 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :You'll be surprised how little people value other's opinion in general.
< 1576156516 490759 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :coincidentally, haskell does it that way
< 1576156521 805331 :bunnyocto!b2c5e16e@178.197.225.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep. And thus I don't value their opinions.
< 1576156524 387397 :bunnyocto!b2c5e16e@178.197.225.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cruel world.
< 1576156547 675027 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also some people really like >>>
< 1576156557 813458 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :for what?
< 1576156559 845647 :bunnyocto!b2c5e16e@178.197.225.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that arrow notation?
< 1576156573 305513 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I believe we've had at least one proposal to flip the order of arguments of (.).
< 1576156576 321131 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t (>>>)
< 1576156576 636356 :bunnyocto!b2c5e16e@178.197.225.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :haven't used haskell in a while
< 1576156580 670164 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :forall k (cat :: k -> k -> *) (a :: k) (b :: k) (c :: k). Category cat => cat a b -> cat b c -> cat a c
< 1576156615 446757 :bunnyocto!b2c5e16e@178.197.225.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :>>, >=>, $>, >>>, 
< 1576156620 542014 :bunnyocto!b2c5e16e@178.197.225.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t (>=>)
< 1576156622 512011 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Monad m => (a -> m b) -> (b -> m c) -> a -> m c
< 1576156626 769193 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am okay with >>>
< 1576156637 397140 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :bunnyocto: The thing is, if you want to read math texts, you better keep an open mind about notation.
< 1576156665 700366 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :And unfortunately that includes basic things like the order of arguments of function composition.
< 1576156753 979717 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :That said, I /prefer/ (f.g)(x) = f(g(x)).
> 1576156902 413098 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Leo9 5*  10New user account
< 1576158129 749914 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I though the Haskell thing was to use (&) for the g(f(x)) case
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< 1576158153 332196 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :no need to pollute established notation with confusion..
< 1576158197 285261 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean I like the forward-direction composition just fine, but under a differet notation
< 1576158298 58685 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(&) is normally flip ($), not flip (.)
< 1576158322 607998 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right
< 1576158330 941799 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, point
< 1576158336 954167 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've seen (f;g)(x) = g(f(x)) but that doesn't work as a Haskell operator
< 1576158396 855410 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Clojure calls it (->>) IIRC, but that's more in a prefix, s-expr setting
< 1576158416 14546 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :but thee's he (>>>) from Category as mentioned, etc
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< 1576160524 306178 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the order of arguments for function composition is simple. if you write the evaluation of the function f at input value x as f(x) or fx then the function composition is (f o g)(x) = f(g(x)) or (f o g)x = f (g x); but if you write it as x f or x^f, then the function composition is x (f o g) = (x f) g or x^(f o g) = (x^f)^g
< 1576160571 511539 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and int-e, they're functions, so the left inverse and the right inverse are the same, we can just call it the inverse or inverse function
< 1576161115 564374 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wib_jonas: ...
< 1576161123 722420 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wib_jonas: you might want to think that through
< 1576161494 352755 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wib_jonas: what is true is that if a function has both a left inverse and a right inverse then they're equal (and that implies the inverse is unique in that case).
< 1576161548 37392 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :But existence is a bit of an issue.
< 1576162473 242575 :bunnyocto!b2c5e16e@178.197.225.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :f being left inverse of g and g being right inverse of f doesn't imply that f . g = g . f
< 1576162491 128277 :bunnyocto!b2c5e16e@178.197.225.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or does it?
< 1576162492 728446 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: hmm ok
< 1576162494 525194 :bunnyocto!b2c5e16e@178.197.225.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wouldn't think so
< 1576162532 696317 :bunnyocto!b2c5e16e@178.197.225.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait so if f . g = id and h . f = id then g = h?
< 1576162551 327183 :bunnyocto!b2c5e16e@178.197.225.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that doesn't _sound_ right?
< 1576162849 876684 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think so
< 1576162868 333617 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially if the signatures differ
< 1576162916 203983 :bunnyocto!b2c5e16e@178.197.225.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :f .g = id -> h . f . g -> h . id -> h
< 1576162968 688148 :bunnyocto!b2c5e16e@178.197.225.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :since h . f = id -> h . f . g -> id . g -> g
< 1576162970 246931 :bunnyocto!b2c5e16e@178.197.225.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thus h = g
< 1576162971 59507 :bunnyocto!b2c5e16e@178.197.225.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm.
< 1576162972 968402 :bunnyocto!b2c5e16e@178.197.225.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it true
< 1576163008 665854 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting
< 1576163029 316438 :bunnyocto!b2c5e16e@178.197.225.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait
< 1576163034 362956 :bunnyocto!b2c5e16e@178.197.225.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need paper for this.
< 1576163088 275358 :bunnyocto!b2c5e16e@178.197.225.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no it's right.
< 1576163112 60773 :bunnyocto!b2c5e16e@178.197.225.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :h . f .g = id . g but also h . f .g = h . id thus id .g = h . id and id . g = g and h . id = h thus h = g = h
< 1576163199 924646 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric
< 1576163206 870717 :bunnyocto!b2c5e16e@178.197.225.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now the question is whether there are functions (a,b) and (c,d) such that a . f = id and f . b = id and c . f = id and f . d = id but a /= c and b /= d
< 1576163239 909246 :bunnyocto!b2c5e16e@178.197.225.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean... evidently a=b and c=d
< 1576163265 108495 :bunnyocto!b2c5e16e@178.197.225.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that leaves us with a . f = id and c . f = id where a /= c
< 1576163293 953225 :bunnyocto!b2c5e16e@178.197.225.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which trivially if a . f = id and c . f = id then a . f = c. f
< 1576163346 504161 :bunnyocto!b2c5e16e@178.197.225.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the inverse is unique
< 1576163347 544910 :bunnyocto!b2c5e16e@178.197.225.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm.
< 1576163870 927569 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds
< 1576164240 684534 :bunnyocto!b2c5e16e@178.197.225.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :assuming id is unique
< 1576164245 256667 :bunnyocto!b2c5e16e@178.197.225.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D
< 1576164306 793830 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you define equality of functions as the same mappings from input to output, id is unique
< 1576164414 807429 :bunnyocto!b2c5e16e@178.197.225.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whats' f x = x / 0 called
< 1576164422 219342 :bunnyocto!b2c5e16e@178.197.225.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a function that isn't defined forall X
< 1576164486 161145 :bunnyocto!b2c5e16e@178.197.225.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the codomain is the empty set.
< 1576164532 868146 :bunnyocto!b2c5e16e@178.197.225.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the domain too
< 1576164533 992717 :bunnyocto!b2c5e16e@178.197.225.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm.
< 1576164964 996190 :bunnyocto!b2c5e16e@178.197.225.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wouldn chr(0)+x work to convert to hex
< 1576165060 760646 :bunnyocto!b2c5e16e@178.197.225.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean my current version (https://pastebin.com/C3kHSXMb) is probably awfully complicated and requires mem lookups
< 1576165075 514172 :bunnyocto!b2c5e16e@178.197.225.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could just add 0x30 to the nibbles
< 1576165403 610425 :bunnyocto!b2c5e16e@178.197.225.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no
< 1576165462 9679 :bunnyocto!b2c5e16e@178.197.225.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the guys making ASCII clearly didn't design for this.
< 1576165466 858931 :bunnyocto!b2c5e16e@178.197.225.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :BIG MISTAKE
< 1576165485 940840 :bunnyocto!b2c5e16e@178.197.225.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the other hand it would work if I wouldn't use ASCII
< 1576165673 979086 :bunnyocto!b2c5e16e@178.197.225.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also I hate it when people say a byte is a number from 0-255
< 1576165681 210168 :bunnyocto!b2c5e16e@178.197.225.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not accurate. bytes are typeless.
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> 1576173620 150549 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67910&oldid=67875 5* 03Nirex0 5* (+314) 10My First Edit as required by esolangs.org
< 1576173634 324873 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bunnyocto,  re: bytes  (last i checked anyways)  well more than that, eg. rfcs say "octet";    "byte" is totally arbitrary and IIRC basically IBM started doing it (engineers wanted 24-bits, so it was flexible for integer and some floating thing; but they found it was either no machine or compromise on this) and then everyone copied IBM  
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< 1576173660 702559 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i found that buried in an interview with a designer of that particular IBM CPU :)    8 bits is totally arbitrary from what i found; everyone just wanted to be "compatible" basically
< 1576173691 448924 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and IIRC IBM might have even been trying to be "compatible" with some competitor in the first place!   totally arbitrary from what i found 
< 1576173713 172405 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the interviewed person didnt say this, but it was implied)
< 1576173768 588169 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and e.g. knuth IIRC claims trinary would be more efficient (assuming everyone switched, economy of scale, etc.)  
< 1576173799 183313 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :more efficient pricewise versus performance i mean, but only if everyone switched
< 1576173858 266555 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont trust people who say "bytes"   if you mean 8 bits "octet"
< 1576174241 17018 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.35.79.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :[23:03] <kingoffrance> more efficient pricewise versus performance i mean, but only if everyone switched => is it that one argument about e-ary system? Because there it’s assumed that each state of each bit/trit/etc. is equally costly to make, which isn’t that true in reality — AFAIR bits are cheaper to make work reliably than trits, statewise
< 1576174260 367183 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.35.79.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry about timestamp, wasn’t mean to paste that :D
> 1576174327 891511 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67911&oldid=67821 5* 03Nirex0 5* (+10) 10Add: oof programming language (not to be confused with oof!)
< 1576174350 88912 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dunno, i think knuth says it in aocp so youd have to dig 3 volumes and whatever else i dunno if he ever finished them :)
< 1576174364 559984 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you google around you might find more detail
< 1576174399 309194 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :somehow he claimed either trinary or some other non-binary base would be cheaper for equal performance   (paraphrase on my part)
< 1576174434 767368 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :theres lots of potential weird bases ...
< 1576174454 440607 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :non-integer i mean
< 1576174484 503870 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :apologies if i sound vague, not really "trained" in that kinda stuff
< 1576174510 204858 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and doesnt come up in real life programming for me, however interesting it might be)
< 1576174555 37160 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(plus its been like 20 years since i skimmed that stuff)
> 1576174821 482205 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Oof14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=67912 5* 03Nirex0 5* (+1351) 10Add: oof programming language (not to be confused with oof!)
< 1576174918 354559 :bunnyocto!b2c5e16e@178.197.225.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does C return structs?
< 1576174927 771179 :bunnyocto!b2c5e16e@178.197.225.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't fit into register
< 1576174931 378571 :bunnyocto!b2c5e16e@178.197.225.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so presumably on the stack
< 1576174974 371326 :bunnyocto!b2c5e16e@178.197.225.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then presumably it's memcpied somewhere into the callee stack
< 1576174981 188268 :bunnyocto!b2c5e16e@178.197.225.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean.. later pushes might destroy the struct on the stack
< 1576174985 115983 :bunnyocto!b2c5e16e@178.197.225.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you gotta save it somehow
> 1576175082 67858 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Oof14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67913&oldid=67912 5* 03Nirex0 5* (+1) 10
< 1576175180 285970 :bunnyocto!b2c5e16e@178.197.225.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well... who needs to return structs :(
< 1576175208 736319 :bunnyocto!b2c5e16e@178.197.225.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just pass a pointer to the struct as the callee and let the caller fill that one in
> 1576175448 282598 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Oof14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67914&oldid=67913 5* 03Nirex0 5* (+6) 10Better Documentation
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< 1576175523 897171 :Jefe!~jeff@66.51.195.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi, my friend told me about a language where only the white space is significant, so all visible characters constitute comments.  Anybody happen to know the name?
< 1576175549 788822 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it was called whitespace
< 1576175556 602737 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and probably made slashdot
< 1576175561 795922 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :long ago
< 1576175608 137602 :Jefe!~jeff@66.51.195.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well that would just make too much sense, wouldn't it?
> 1576175612 439038 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Oof14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67915&oldid=67914 5* 03Nirex0 5* (+30) 10
< 1576175613 692157 :Jefe!~jeff@66.51.195.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks.
< 1576175648 774280 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION cries himself to sleep that slashdot moderation is actually something missing from a gazillion other sites; at least slashdot's perl forum you could browse the -5 flamebait if you wanted;   the modern web stuff just vanishes
< 1576175684 134864 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :murphy's law: someone can always do worse implementation of something you don't particularly like
< 1576175739 212044 :Jefe!~jeff@66.51.195.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's kind of like "every bad idea will eventually be implemented in JavaScript."
< 1576175794 243151 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :we called it jabbascript or jabbadabbascript in ##programming about 24 hours ago ; as in node.js is modular like slicing a chunk of lard off jabba the hut and moving it somewhere else
< 1576175810 933898 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont know if those are common nicknames
< 1576175849 132780 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(referring to node having 5000 dependencies i suppose)
< 1576175940 688947 :Jefe!~jeff@66.51.195.8 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Signal desktop client is apparently written in Node.  I ran it for a week, my load average wouldn't drop below 3.0, and frequently shot over 15.
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< 1576176139 210075 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats good, i dont feel bad for being cruel now
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< 1576176712 225045 :bunnyocto!b2c5e16e@178.197.225.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://stackoverflow.com/questions/22593259/check-if-string-is-int-golang
< 1576176713 943282 :bunnyocto!b2c5e16e@178.197.225.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so terrible
< 1576176768 422994 :bunnyocto!b2c5e16e@178.197.225.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean... the unicode.isDigit is bullshit.
< 1576176780 659647 :bunnyocto!b2c5e16e@178.197.225.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then using regexps? pff...
> 1576177088 341964 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Oof14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67916&oldid=67915 5* 03Dart 5* (-94) 10
< 1576177133 748850 :bunnyocto!b2c5e16e@178.197.225.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that Ook but s/k/f?
< 1576177268 775966 :bunnyocto!b2c5e16e@178.197.225.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OLen / 8
< 1576177269 729528 :bunnyocto!b2c5e16e@178.197.225.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhm.
< 1576177285 298945 :bunnyocto!b2c5e16e@178.197.225.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oof has on OLen of 2 so 2 / 8 = 0 so it's executed zero number times
< 1576177301 568905 :bunnyocto!b2c5e16e@178.197.225.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably should be (OLen / 8 ) + 1 as well
< 1576177312 26291 :bunnyocto!b2c5e16e@178.197.225.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also... > is f with zero os
< 1576177313 824208 :bunnyocto!b2c5e16e@178.197.225.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so...
< 1576177317 239725 :bunnyocto!b2c5e16e@178.197.225.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OLen always zero
< 1576177324 978938 :bunnyocto!b2c5e16e@178.197.225.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :means you can't express >>>> with this mechanism
< 1576177679 137138 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :<bunnyocto> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/22593259/check-if-string-is-int-golang ← the question is poorly defined; many of the answers produce different results in specific cases
< 1576177700 821760 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for example, is "123456789012345678901234567890" a string representing an integer?
< 1576177726 835375 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the answer depends on your use case; you can't convert it to an integer but in many cases you'd want to recognise it as one
< 1576177739 175824 :bunnyocto!b2c5e16e@178.197.225.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeh I'm aware of that.
< 1576177746 52911 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've so far avoided starting an argument with my girlfriend about golang.
< 1576177750 281876 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :she seems to be a fan
< 1576177775 752748 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in languages with compiled regexes, the regex solution is actually one of the most efficient ways of doing that, because it's basically a domain-specific language for generating string validators, and the compiler will have a lot of rules to optimise it
< 1576177788 29094 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I suspect golang doesn't actually compile regexes at compile time
< 1576177797 730154 :bunnyocto!b2c5e16e@178.197.225.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know any language that does?
< 1576177804 52370 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rust does
< 1576177811 548396 :bunnyocto!b2c5e16e@178.197.225.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Interesting.
< 1576177836 968760 :bunnyocto!b2c5e16e@178.197.225.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I like golang a lot.
< 1576177843 124525 :bunnyocto!b2c5e16e@178.197.225.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless it's for GUI stuff
< 1576177845 238997 :bunnyocto!b2c5e16e@178.197.225.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then puh
< 1576177861 686436 :bunnyocto!b2c5e16e@178.197.225.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think there are any reasonably good bindings to do GUI stuff with golang yet.
< 1576177888 404979 :bunnyocto!b2c5e16e@178.197.225.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you know
< 1576177903 448986 :bunnyocto!b2c5e16e@178.197.225.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :GUI is done in things..
< 1576177906 135085 :bunnyocto!b2c5e16e@178.197.225.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :html
< 1576177946 90107 :bunnyocto!b2c5e16e@178.197.225.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :webviews?
< 1576178045 149701 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean I'm not sure I'd say "rust does"
< 1576178051 381412 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm sure someone has a library that does it with a procedural macro
< 1576178080 839552 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think the 'regex' crate does
< 1576178092 206062 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it suggests using lazy_static so that each regex is compiled once, but that still happens at runtime
< 1576178110 463309 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :looking it up, it seems regex! isn't the recommended way of doing things that the moment
< 1576178113 814678 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm also sure someone has written a Lisp or Scheme regex library that does it at compile time
< 1576178116 798457 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok
< 1576178125 963024 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's more like it could be done in Rust but isn't the default
< 1576178130 620426 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah
< 1576178132 892584 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that's disappointing, I thought it would be)
< 1576178142 798674 :bunnyocto!b2c5e16e@178.197.225.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :muahaha. suck it rust.
< 1576178148 691973 :bunnyocto!b2c5e16e@178.197.225.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, but rust is cool.
< 1576178157 471681 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think Perl compiles regexes on first use rather than compile time, too
< 1576178159 247120 :bunnyocto!b2c5e16e@178.197.225.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :static memory safety is a neat concept.
< 1576178165 76906 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure though, its optimiser does weird things sometimes
< 1576178190 633254 :bunnyocto!b2c5e16e@178.197.225.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just that most oldschool programmers are too scared of it yet so few use it
< 1576178214 146421 :bunnyocto!b2c5e16e@178.197.225.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :even newschool programmers
< 1576178230 293718 :bunnyocto!b2c5e16e@178.197.225.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we had "tech discovery" meetings back at the place I worked
< 1576178255 97480 :bunnyocto!b2c5e16e@178.197.225.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I introduced Rust at one point.
< 1576178287 749462 :bunnyocto!b2c5e16e@178.197.225.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know. People just aren't really fond of learning new concepts I guess.
< 1576178325 92847 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I suspect that most compilers will not generate the fastest asm for verifying that a string consists only of digits on any input, short of outright writing the asm
< 1576178335 287182 :bunnyocto!b2c5e16e@178.197.225.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so we used golang. Which is awesome... better than python, C or Java
< 1576178337 890838 :bunnyocto!b2c5e16e@178.197.225.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or C#
< 1576178435 486209 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rust has a steep learning curve
< 1576178442 764786 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it tries to provide all of safety, convenience, and performance
< 1576178448 304837 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this means it's nearly as complex as C++
< 1576178455 339233 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the complexity is more necessary and less historical/accidental
< 1576178482 283306 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rust is largely an attempt to take modern C++ concepts and build a similar language without the historical baggage
< 1576178487 911791 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and in fact those concepts are getting backported into C++
< 1576178493 272909 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(which will make it even more complicated, but that's life)
< 1576178564 715205 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rust is a cool language with an annoying community and dickish leadership
< 1576178570 264108 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is also life
< 1576178583 943343 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :computers suck, people suck too but in a different way
< 1576178664 978424 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the Rust community is like the Haskell community, a bunch of really excited beginners who think Rust will solve every problem under the sun, plus they're full of themselves for being 'friendly and welcoming' but they don't want to hear about it if your experience is to the contrary
< 1576178727 614805 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :11:18 < ais523> hmm, I suspect that most compilers will not generate the fastest asm for verifying that a string consists only of digits on any input, short of outright writing the asm
< 1576178733 7638 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've seen LLVM do some clever things in that direction
< 1576178768 782615 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you have a switch-case with two branches over a set with less than 64 elements it will make a bitmask and use that as an immediate operand
< 1576178876 833960 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://gcc.godbolt.org/z/Ce-LBo
< 1576178915 27451 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm: https://godbolt.org/z/n3PKGD
< 1576178924 810930 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok gotta go
< 1576178926 80791 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ttyl
< 1576178940 921547 :bunnyocto!b2c5e16e@178.197.225.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://pastebin.com/WYsqm4aj is how I'd probably go about it if we're talking about no signs involved :D
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< 1576179011 970652 :bunnyocto!b2c5e16e@178.197.225.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not tested yet
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< 1576179224 258400 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suspect the correct option is probably to use the asm instruction VPCMPISTRI, but good luck getting a compiler to generate it
< 1576179277 671279 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I put in the check to make sure that the string's starting address was divisible by 32 to make sure that any resulting overread wouldn't cause issues with page faults, in case the compiler was scared to do an overread and that was suppressing the optimisation)
< 1576179360 283682 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this would be particularly good on long strings or if you were checking lots of different strings in a loop (because you can loop-invariant-code-motion the loading of the list of permitted character ranges)
< 1576179531 13423 :bunnyocto!b2c5e16e@178.197.225.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the string has to be <=128 bytes for pcmpistri?
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< 1576179543 456812 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bunnyocto: <= 128 bits for each call to pcmpistri (16 bytes)
< 1576179551 826637 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :however it lets you know if the whole segment of the string you're looking at matches
< 1576179562 143101 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it does you can just look at the next 16 bytes, and so on
< 1576179574 397893 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the length limit makes sense because this is using a hardware string-tesing circuit
< 1576179575 292358 :bunnyocto!b2c5e16e@178.197.225.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeh but what about \0?
< 1576179583 553665 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pcmpistri handles \0 itself
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< 1576179598 80732 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has a friend pcmpestri for length-prefixed strings
< 1576179622 859614 :bunnyocto!b2c5e16e@178.197.225.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it stops at a \0?
< 1576179662 915623 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1576179693 113437 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the basic idea is to use pcmpistri in a similar way to strspn to check how many bytes at the start of the string are digits
< 1576179699 459624 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you look for the byte just beyond those and see if it's \0
< 1576179709 147740 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it is, the string's entirely digits
< 1576179721 623486 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(you can then adjust for ensuring the string's nonempty, checking for +/-, etc., if you want to)
< 1576179744 645539 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if pcmpistri tells you that the 16-byte section of string you're looking at has 16 digits in it, you have to move onto the next section, otherwise you're done
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< 1576179858 874077 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(16 digits consecutively at the start, that is)
< 1576179895 374867 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :unfortunately it wouldn't work for UTF-8 (you could make it work for UTF-16 though, at least if you confined yourself to ASCII digits)
< 1576179902 908554 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or ,hmm
< 1576179911 248866 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually it does work for UTF-8 if you confine yourself to ASCII digits
< 1576179925 621674 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because you don't actually have to parse it
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< 1576180437 620934 :bunnyocto!b2c5e16e@178.197.225.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my neighbour is singing since like 3 hours
< 1576180483 556615 :bunnyocto!b2c5e16e@178.197.225.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: thx for your explanations.
< 1576180576 76222 :bunnyocto!b2c5e16e@178.197.225.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :PUNPCKLDQ
< 1576180580 304474 :bunnyocto!b2c5e16e@178.197.225.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice mnemonics.
< 1576180712 602094 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-129.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I suspect that most compilers will not generate the fastest asm for verifying that a string consists only of digits on any input, short of outright writing the asm" => the problem with that stuff is that "fastest" depends on whether you are allowed to assume 31 readable bytes after the end of the string or not, and we still don't have interfaces to malloc that even let you allocate vectors that way, or 
< 1576180718 518459 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-129.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :reference types or containers or any high-level abtstractions to track that info
< 1576180770 924647 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-129.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I put in the check to make sure that the string's starting address was divisible by 32" => yes, that
< 1576180788 827848 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oddly enough, C doesn't allow aligned pointers as function arguments
< 1576180807 822302 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it supports aligned pointers but there's an explicit rule that prevents you putting an _Alignas on a function argument, or sneaking one in via a typedef
< 1576180829 564661 :bunnyocto!b2c5e16e@178.197.225.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hu?
< 1576180830 892609 :bunnyocto!b2c5e16e@178.197.225.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why?
< 1576180834 214109 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(16 would actually be enough alignment, but I put 32 just in case the compiler could think of something clever to do with the 256-bit vector units)
< 1576180840 505102 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-129.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: sure, but you can put those things in a struct
< 1576180848 128016 :bunnyocto!b2c5e16e@178.197.225.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why does it care whether a char* is aligned?
< 1576180855 912707 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bunnyocto: it lets you overread safely
< 1576180874 634438 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :on basically all modern processors, there's a limit to the memory protection's granularity
< 1576180888 843635 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, say, memory can only go from readable to unreadable at a multiple of 512, or a multiple of 2048
< 1576180906 596447 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so if you know the address is divisible by 16, either the first byte is unreadable or the whole thing is readable
< 1576180918 160731 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-129.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :on a multiple of 4096 bytes on x86 actually
< 1576180927 401473 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forgot the modern number
< 1576180937 35199 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-129.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I think 8192 in linux userspace, but I'm not sure of that
< 1576180937 790060 :bunnyocto!b2c5e16e@178.197.225.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeh yeh page sizes and what not.... but how does this matter for this purpose?
< 1576180938 387874 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it keeps changing, wasting 4K of memory isn't really a big deal nowadays
< 1576180958 364644 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because if you have a string like "12", it might be right at the end of a page
< 1576180965 851148 :bunnyocto!b2c5e16e@178.197.225.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if I make like uhm void bar() { char* __align(16) blubb = "blubberlutsch"; foo(blubb); }?
< 1576180967 890209 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you can't read the first 16 bytes in case there's unreadable memory just after it
< 1576180990 62188 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bunnyocto: that works but the function isn't allowed to know that it was given a pointer that's 16-byte aligned, it just gets a char*
< 1576181011 707796 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-129.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and, I know I ranted about this a lot, I wish we could eventually transition to larger pages required system-wise, because there's a hard limit that the L1 data cache can be at most 8 pages large, and that's very often the bottleneck
< 1576181041 811740 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-129.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that reminds me
< 1576181057 14549 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: huh, why the limit?
< 1576181058 794031 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-129.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :did izabera return after she asked that question about graph algorithm to which I first gave a stupid answer?
< 1576181073 422791 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi
< 1576181077 428856 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-129.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello
< 1576181080 846479 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, it doesn't seem significantly harder to make the L1 cache bigger by doubling the page size, and by doubling the number of pages it supports
< 1576181081 969548 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have returned
< 1576181108 800986 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in either case the main cost is going to be the silicon that actually stores the values in the cache, rather than the control circuitry
< 1576181121 835045 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if the control circuitry is the issue, you might want to make cache lines longer instead
< 1576181134 432731 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-129.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: the L1 cache has to have a very low latency, so it needs to find which cache line to return when it only knows the linear address, and then verify if that's correct after the physical address is computed. 
< 1576181134 480738 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the issue actually the TLB rather than the L1 cache? that would be more believable
< 1576181157 653067 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-129.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok wait, I'm explaining that wrong
< 1576181161 163066 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: i ended up running bfs from each node
< 1576181174 891730 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: oh, the L1 cache works on virtual addresses? I'd have expected it to work on physical addresses (as the TLB that caches virtual addresses)
< 1576181175 369200 :izabera!~izabera@unaffiliated/izabera PRIVMSG #esoteric :easily parallelizable
< 1576181183 658803 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-129.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the L1 cache needs to have a very low latency, so it has to do most of the computation when only the linear address is available, the physical isn't
< 1576181212 695293 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-129.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so how it works is that it finds the bunch of 8 cache lines whose address matches the linear address modulo the page size, then when the physical address arrives, it chooses one of those
< 1576181220 692080 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-129.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has to be able to do this on two reads in parallel by the way
< 1576181227 869052 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-129.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or one read and one write
< 1576181246 953555 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-129.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :in order to keep the latency low, it can't have more than 8 cache lines with the same address modulo page size
< 1576181268 752106 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not actually a limit of 8 pages, though; it's just a limit of 8 addresses that are on the same place within the page
< 1576181278 803673 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-129.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the size of the individual cache lines, which happens to be 64 bytes on x86, doesn't influence this
< 1576181280 829562 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are a huge number of caching effects that have limitations like that
< 1576181288 378024 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-129.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yes, 8 page sizes of total data
< 1576181318 846140 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-129.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :32 kilobytes, divided to 64 bytes sized cache lines, such that each address modulo 4 kilobyte has at most 8 cache lines
< 1576181353 940621 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could have more while retaining the virtual address lookup behaviour, though
< 1576181396 165546 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-129.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"it doesn't seem significantly harder to make the L1 cache bigger by doubling the page size" => you can do that only if the OS guarantees that there can't be small pages anywhere, not even in other processes, because processes can share memory, and even then the cpu would need extra circuitry to handle the compatibility node for old OSes that can't guarantee that, so it's a bit messy
< 1576181489 961030 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: no, if you end up with more than 8 addresses in cache that would clash with each other, you just evict one to avoid hte problem
< 1576181506 478582 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if the addresses happen to not clash, you can go with it
< 1576181529 220645 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-129.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: no, it's definitely the L1 cache, not the TLB cache. the TLB cache is improved by making most pages large pages (2 megabyte in x86_64), while the OS can still allocate some normal 4 kilobyte sized pages, the TLB can handle the mixing reasonably efficiently 
< 1576181594 733226 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-129.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yes, you evict one if you have more than 8 addresses that clash, which means that the total L1 data cache (on a single cpu core) can be no larger than 32 kilobytes total, or 512 cache lines of 64 bytes if you wish. 
< 1576181639 686096 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-129.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and 32 kilobytes is rather small, it would be nice to be able to increase that for some applications, because the L1 data cache is often the bottleneck
< 1576181645 751221 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-129.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it isn't always for all computations, obviously
< 1576181670 151540 :bunnyocto!b2c5e16e@178.197.225.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bottleneck for what...
< 1576181671 972337 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-129.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :these cache lines could be from 512 different pages possibly
< 1576181678 642032 :bunnyocto!b2c5e16e@178.197.225.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :back in the old day we had 333mhz something
< 1576181683 155111 :bunnyocto!b2c5e16e@178.197.225.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it was running smoothly
< 1576181688 291368 :bunnyocto!b2c5e16e@178.197.225.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it should run incredibly fast now
< 1576181688 679528 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-129.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or they could contain the entirety of 8 pages
< 1576181800 656492 :bunnyocto!b2c5e16e@178.197.225.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also excel 2019 probably has still the same set of features as good old lotus
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< 1576182177 839655 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-129.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :izabera: good, that's what I figured too eventually. you may have read my answer in the logs.
< 1576182355 691863 :bunnyocto!b2c5e16e@178.197.225.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is really interesting.
< 1576182372 180900 :bunnyocto!b2c5e16e@178.197.225.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think that current basic software is any more advanced than like 15y ago
< 1576182387 163861 :bunnyocto!b2c5e16e@178.197.225.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure... it looks less pixely but other than that
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< 1576190361 696647 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-129.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the UK general election was today?
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< 1576190409 336662 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, the polling places just closed 40 minutes ago.
< 1576190451 267756 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :My phone tried to keep telling me how to vote, I don't think it realizes I'm not enfranchised.
< 1576190671 745868 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-129.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: you lied to websites that you're older than your real age because they don't allow you to use the website or buy drugs otherwise, and now your lie bites back in the form of election ads?
< 1576190744 510435 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think it's that.
< 1576190806 779541 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did want to share a picture of one of the most misleading infographics from the ads in our mailbox, but I threw it away already.
< 1576190849 78898 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-129.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you may be able to find a copy online
< 1576190849 334808 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It had a bar chart for Tories, Labour and Lib Dems, and the bar heights were not to scale.
< 1576190879 639287 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-129.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :was it one of these plots that show bars in 3D with exaggerated perspective for no reason?
< 1576190929 810246 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was flat, but the height difference indicating a 5 percentage-point difference was more or less the same as that for 9.
< 1576191009 281823 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well the glyphs are similar too so what's your complaint...
< 1576191033 672291 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :They had also drawn an up-pointing triangle on top of their own bar, but it didn't make any more sense even treating the top of the triangle as their bar height.
< 1576191066 268467 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-129.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if you consider the areas of the bars, with the triangle included?
< 1576191090 789765 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmmm, well. Too late now.
< 1576191103 791587 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-129.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :search the web, there's probably a copy online
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< 1576191253 921147 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did find an article about generally misleading leaflets -- https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-50375532 -- though this is mostly about dodgy data and other misrepresentation, rather than graphical tricks.
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< 1576191435 379155 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :IMO they should just stop with this FPTP stuff.
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< 1576191492 769271 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-129.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :another of those stupid power outages that they do some nights, when electricity goes down in the whole block for two minutes, then stays up for 10 to 15 minutes, then goes down for 2 minutes again
< 1576191504 347600 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-129.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know why they do this so often
< 1576191518 194220 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-129.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so expect me to disconnect again within 10 minutes
< 1576191623 780911 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-129.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the internet takes two more minutes to come back after the power of course, and even mobile phone disconnects for half a minute at the start of the power outage before the aggregator for the cell tower starts up
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< 1576192218 469707 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-129.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, maybe they're skipping the second outage this time?
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< 1576249893 158610 :Soni!~quassel@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :flags register is hot
< 1576249912 670143 :Soni!~quassel@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wish everyone used it
< 1576249925 598164 :Soni!~quassel@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :most programming language don't have flags register
< 1576249936 534359 :Soni!~quassel@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :most esolang don't have flags register
< 1576249940 883382 :Soni!~quassel@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why's that
< 1576249966 703094 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you mean by flags register? like the one that is used in conditional jumps?
< 1576250014 484012 :Soni!~quassel@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah
< 1576250036 333082 :Soni!~quassel@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or for shifting carry
< 1576250039 739011 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why should any high-level programming language explicitly use that?
< 1576250044 397241 :Soni!~quassel@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(rotate?)
< 1576250073 391993 :Soni!~quassel@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, bash does have a flags register, sort of
< 1576250082 756273 :Soni!~quassel@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has the success flag and that's it I guess
< 1576250102 960603 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a return value is not really a flags register
< 1576250111 164267 :Soni!~quassel@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it gets stored tho
< 1576250116 474621 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, perl has way more magic variables than bash
< 1576250136 440693 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't consider that good in any language i would want to seriously use, though
< 1576250147 323274 :Soni!~quassel@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, my point is basically it'd be fun, in a painful way, to have a flags register
< 1576250149 776799 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i can see the appeal for an esolang
< 1576250189 713313 :Soni!~quassel@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and basically make every opcode use it somehow, either conditionally or using some value from it in computations
< 1576250248 821480 :Soni!~quassel@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also always change it, even if the change keeps it the same
< 1576252391 176563 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think most mainstream languages try to minimise pain rather than bolster it
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< 1576260837 640332 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :2019-12-13 18:13:56.648 +0000 UTC December 13 Friday 2019-W50-5
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< 1576262375 577392 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-242.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? =@ccc
< 1576262376 784468 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​=@ccc is a great innovation in gcc 6, kept top secret, where inline asm statements can return a value in the carry flag on x86_64. See https://gcc.gnu.org/gcc-6/changes.html which keeps this secret, https://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc-6.1.0/gcc/Extended-Asm.html , https://marc.info/?l=linux-kernel&m=143786977730804 .
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< 1576266952 357806 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: I think you may have been right about that "every other day" thing.
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> 1576277167 125973 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Intcode14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67930&oldid=67907 5* 03Fizzie 5* (+9) 10One more day.
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< 1576285510 683000 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-242.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, so Intcode is a language where the source code is written as integers in decimal separated by commas, it puts multiple fields of an instruction into a single integer, the fields are decimal, and the numbers aren't too large. does that remind you of anything?
< 1576285523 189541 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-242.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Santa Claus is trying to make a better BANCStar
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< 1576289148 786112 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a way to determine how much space a BASIC module needs in a code segment without creating a assembly listing file? Can the .OBJ file be parsed somehow to determine this?
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< 1576295192 739727 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I found information about the .OBJ file format, so I can write a program to parse it. (I looked at the hex dump to confirm that it is the correct format.)
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< 1576295630 496573 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :good
< 1576295641 601709 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it like MZ format?
< 1576295644 208193 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is the format
< 1576295670 754887 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is described at https://pierrelib.pagesperso-orange.fr/exec_formats/OMF_v1.1.pdf
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< 1576295723 255514 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Soni: the condition code / flags register isn't used in high-level languages (and eventually turned out to be a mistake in low-level languages) because it's hard to optimise well
< 1576295756 831627 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it takes a fairly complex static analysis to determine whether a value stored in a flag was placed there intentionally and needs preserving, or whether it's just an unwanted side effect
< 1576295777 297772 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1576295781 900916 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is why RISC-V doesn't have condition codes
< 1576295783 471405 :Soni!~quassel@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yes
< 1576295792 629204 :Soni!~quassel@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: that's why it'd be perfect for an esolang
< 1576295801 536389 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, I see
< 1576295815 880102 :Soni!~quassel@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: also, you run something, then 20 opcodes later you use the result
< 1576295831 797894 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :instead the result of a comparison instruction goes into an ordinary register of the programmer's / compiler's choice
< 1576295833 305387 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :golfing languages are probably the genre that would most benefit from them
< 1576295837 878351 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not everyone uses high-level languages; some people use assembly language
< 1576295839 118062 :Soni!~quassel@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: but you make the esolang so that stuff like that is required if you wanna be able to do anything with it
< 1576295843 952280 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but maybe designed syntactically rather than in execution order
< 1576295864 482651 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Still, many assembly languages work fine without condition codes)
< 1576295882 384370 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: right, but, e.g., the condition codes on x86 turned out to be a problem because they reduce the information available to the optimiser
< 1576295885 68131 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so a < b or a == b are handled the same way as a + b
< 1576295911 325183 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I thought of an improvement to this: add 1 more bit in registers than in memory addresses
< 1576295920 158671 :Soni!~quassel@unaffiliated/soniex2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in other words, make the programmer have to suffer)
< 1576295926 203761 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, e.g., your 64-bit processor has a 65-bit ALU
< 1576295949 868210 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then instead of condition-code-dependent instructions like Jcc, you just look at specific bits of a number
< 1576295964 547744 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm
< 1576295966 961746 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure i follow
< 1576296001 872698 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :say you add two 64-bit numbers using a 65-bit register (and they were sign-extended or zero-extended as necessary)
< 1576296031 866692 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :carry flag is bit 64 of the result, sign flag is bit 63 of the result, overflow flag is the xor of those two
< 1576296074 748829 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for zero flag you have to check that the result is 0, but it's easy enough to imagine a dedicated zero-testing circuit, your ALU needs one of those anyway
< 1576296106 116842 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ZZ Zero does have a single condition flag (called "pflag"); many instructions use it as a result code since instructions have only two operands, for example LESS and GRTR and EQ all use it for the result of comparisons, and MOVE checks if a move is successful; you can then use JT and JF (or TLET and FLET) to conditionally jump or let. (There is also JZ and JNZ too, though)
< 1576296108 898330 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :parity flag can be implemented like zero flag if you care about it, most people don't
< 1576296142 147692 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the nice thing about this model is that the same register that stores the comparison result also stores the addition/subtraction result
< 1576296153 106676 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :reducing register pressure when both are relevant
< 1576296195 96745 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, hmm, I'm not convinced you can implement auxiliary carry in this model
< 1576296213 448495 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's a silly idea for a flag anyway, it's ridiculously specific and doesn't generalise well to most instructions
< 1576296239 847174 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still I don't like that Glulx doesn't have a carry flag, since then it is difficult to deal with numbers longer than 32-bits
< 1576296254 164239 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it also needs a bit of tweaking to handle overflowing multiplies, unless you produce a double-width result)
< 1576296449 233195 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(There are other ways it could be implemented also though, rather than using a carry flag; other way is to add a "add64" instruction)
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< 1576299475 565834 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm getting in so much trouble lately, it's great.
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< 1576300516 386190 :moony!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony PRIVMSG #esoteric :me and a few others are working on a computeri n MMindustry, which should be a fun proof of turing completeness. https://i.imgur.com/rwnvawO.png (pictured: 4 bit addder/subtracter)
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< 1576307788 767880 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :6502 has PHP and PLP instructions to save the flags in case you need them for later.
< 1576308345 254220 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I think auxiliary carry is possible, if you have a special register to store the carry out (similar to how MMIX has a special register to store the remainder of a division, and other special registers for other purposes). (It is only for addition and subtraction of course, but there are some uses of it. The same register might also be used for shifted out bits of a shift operation.)
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< 1576316728 285937 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone told me this week that cannibalism means eating parts of a human body which does not regrow (e.g. finger nails and hair will regrow so it doesn't count). But I cannot find that in the dictionary.
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< 1576322784 256978 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that makes sense except for the hair part
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> 1576331794 595005 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07///14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67933&oldid=67617 5* 03Hex96 5* (+72) 10/* Examples */
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> 1576335686 411694 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Deutsch14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=67934 5* 03CMinusMinus 5* (+387) 10Created page with "'''Deutsch''' is a language created by the germans at ~750 years A.d.  ==Versions== {| class="wikitable" |- ! Name !! Year |- | Althochdeutsch || 750 |- | Mittelhochdeutsch ||..."
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> 1576339594 141137 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Turing tarpit14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67942&oldid=58597 5* 03Dart 5* (+0) 10Pretty sure No-op isn't required for turing-completeness
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< 1576349216 28935 :Hamilton!~Hamilton@unaffiliated/hamilton PART #esoteric :"Leaving"
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< 1576351993 960077 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how comes nobody maintains any ihaskell binary package in aur? :(
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< 1576354170 250472 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Somehow AoC is great for writing terrible code...
< 1576354313 402225 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(E.g., today's problem, done properly, would involve topological sorting. But a stupid fixed point construction works, too, it's slower, but as it turns out, plenty fast enough.)
< 1576355035 576816 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-211.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :my job is also great for writing terrible code
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< 1576356428 592915 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: is your code better than average?
< 1576356428 972010 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: it was called ' afx'. i'm still just sipping at the scheme workshop in here?
< 1576356454 649449 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmm ' afx', could be a fingerprint?
< 1576357177 505737 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: I did a topological sort because I was worried the straightforward approach wouldn't be fast enough. :)
< 1576357190 263593 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The code's still terrible though.
< 1576357203 806123 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But maybe not algorithmically terrible.
< 1576357204 304340 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I decided to worry later.
< 1576357226 697555 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :And never got to the point where it mattered, not even for part 2, for which I reused part 1.
< 1576357246 173655 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reasonable.
< 1576357267 243896 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Which, I suspect, is the intended approach, because working things out backward is really messy due to all the rounding.)
< 1576357298 249351 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Could be. I did a binary search using the part 1 solution.
< 1576357304 168530 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah same here.
< 1576357323 371932 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also wrote a small thing to convert the puzzle input (and examples) to dot format, to render them as graphs, just because graphs are pretty.
< 1576357387 331020 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: actually, in case I ran into performance problems, I was going to do something between the naive iteration and topological sorting: keep a working list of products that were affected in the last iteration...
< 1576357413 467104 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I fully expected that to be fast enough.
< 1576357432 326656 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://zem.fi/tmp/day14-ex1.png to https://zem.fi/tmp/day14-ex5.png are the common examples, though the customized puzzle input was the prettiest (tangle-iest) one.
< 1576357439 83099 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even though it's still quadratic in the worst case.
< 1576357475 734513 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like they're more wide than deep anyway
< 1576357547 438015 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's 16 levels in my puzzle input, though I don't think dot's levels are necessary a meaningful theoretical concept.
< 1576357618 493046 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :In particular, one of the levels just has one node in it, and that node has no edges from level L-1 or to level L+1. I'm guessing it's just some sort of heuristics.
< 1576357619 825986 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, what matters for me... number of iterations is bounded by the longest path from source (ore) to target (fuel).
< 1576357741 458971 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I could count the actual iterations...
< 1576357757 551018 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(plus 1, because there's one extra iteration to detect the fixed point)
< 1576357799 802006 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :17 for me. So same depth as yours.
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< 1576357900 396091 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just 63 productions, 137 inputs anyway, not terribly large.
< 1576357916 776573 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :< input tr -dc ',=' | wc -c
< 1576357930 148345 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :counts inputs :)
< 1576357974 897788 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That gives 122 here, so at least it's not exactly the same structure.
< 1576358013 979617 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(56 lines.)
< 1576358027 815063 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lucky you ;)
< 1576358047 987352 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe unlucky because topological sorting is even more of an overkill then
< 1576358100 710920 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Annoyingly though it still took me 35 minutes to get it right. Though I was tired...
< 1576358126 748912 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :...which may explain that I got zillions of type errors and struggled to pinpoint them.
< 1576358182 587087 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It took annoyingly long for me too. Though the day leaderboard says 00:42:18 for rank 100, so maybe that's reasonable.
< 1576358278 360143 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :part 2 took 6 minutes on top of that which is more like it
< 1576358340 62825 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should probably stop looking at those times :)
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< 1576358389 313072 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh, clicking at some of the people on the leaderboard landed me on someone's GitHub repo where they write golfed solutions to the puzzles using their own golf language.
< 1576358448 947722 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :But FWIW, first star #100 was at 27:35 minutes
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< 1576360644 192699 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tc
< 1576360645 632795 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tc is the abbreviation for Technetium, an element so sophisticated that it does not exist naturally.
< 1576360661 886155 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i agree that this wisdom is technically correct hth
< 1576360704 902179 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tbc
< 1576360706 64127 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :tbc? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
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> 1576365704 35684 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67943&oldid=67910 5* 03Oerjan 5* (-81) 10Remove some redundancies
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> 1576365892 160496 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07///14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67944&oldid=67933 5* 03Oerjan 5* (-72) 10Undo revision 67933 by [[Special:Contributions/Hex96|Hex96]] ([[User talk:Hex96|talk]]) (Not a truth-machine as it never prints anything.)
> 1576366470 834381 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Burn14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67945&oldid=67923 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+90) 10Unsigned
< 1576367425 362538 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"this" is complicated. -- Maybe this(!) is more appropriate for here than for ##math :)
< 1576369391 665401 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I added fifteen new opcodes into ZZ Zero.
< 1576369434 647980 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And also a new board flag, a new mode of an existing opcode, the ability to append rather than overwrite when printing to a file, and other stuff.
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< 1576371227 928462 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :<kingoffrance> we only do alchemy metaphorical riches <-- better than homeopathy ones hth
< 1576372901 669067 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh homeopathic riches?
< 1576373102 661836 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :This makes me want to gauge the market for potentiated gold.
< 1576373189 207109 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: how do you pronounce "gauge"?
< 1576373189 561085 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: society of invasive cardiovascular professionals. we're on surgery here, ight?
< 1576373208 770614 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf
< 1576373218 209055 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :^styl
< 1576373219 533014 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style
< 1576373219 883355 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc* iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack oots pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp ukparl youtube
< 1576373268 571366 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: that's a bit long for a pronunciation
< 1576373268 962715 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: consider the set of symbols though... yeah... you're the guy who came in here not yesterday he spammed up the channel
< 1576373317 179010 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have _never_ spammed the channel and my `sleds don't count
< 1576373353 416111 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :countless sleds, how seasonally appropriate
< 1576373397 749823 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? password
< 1576373398 988756 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :The password of the month is naughty.
< 1576373414 802465 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, right. (I honestly forgot what I picked.)
< 1576373427 356552 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess the password of the month is not very memorable.
< 1576373445 606327 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is something you want in a password, but for different reasons.
< 1576373591 441226 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I were to pick one now I might go with "is going out with a bang."
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< 1576374410 673055 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: will there be a next year?
< 1576374410 949002 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: have i confused them? escape the space?
< 1576374865 222418 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: it's more of a time issue, i think.
< 1576374865 592945 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: everybody makes one, seveninchbread tells us what the interpreters can or can't do unless 1 is defined as () is a syntactic transformer?
< 1576374909 555627 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :seveninchbread hasn't been seen in a while, unless e morphed into a nick i didn't manage to track.
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< 1576375044 641987 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :27 weeks says nickserv
< 1576375283 474134 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1576375377 150913 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Are you feeling all right? You're being unusually coherent.
< 1576375377 491489 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: it implements a few features such as highlighting where exceptions were thrown, incredibly powerful syntax colouring system, and an output port
< 1576375452 69535 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 NICK :Lord_of_Life
< 1576375614 560550 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh oh i hope lota has a backup
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< 1576375651 207551 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it seems about time for the pa'anuri to start shooting back
< 1576375811 681380 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about 4, to keep with the Apocalypse theme.
< 1576375857 754227 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Hmmm, have we seen the design in the top-right?
< 1576375863 185882 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where right is left.
< 1576375877 680232 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :So the thing with spheres and rings.
< 1576375940 188906 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i only remember the zeus thing that got blown up
< 1576375948 846516 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, scale. The Pa'anuri don't mess around... they might just open a gate and push a star through. Wouldn't that be fun?
< 1576375977 768702 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :by chinook
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< 1576376035 737969 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it looks like the gate is smaller than their gas giant planet sized (IIRC) healing ships.
< 1576378619 855249 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :depends on perspective
< 1576379505 792488 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :True, I'm making big assumptions, but I can't be sure that they're big enough.
< 1576380261 483119 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah i spent an hour to find that zeus thing and it doesn't look the same at all https://www.schlockmercenary.com/2018-09-09
< 1576380308 364710 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(partly because i misjudged which chapter it was in)
< 1576380348 624709 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or well, _some_ similarities, but not the whole structure
< 1576380458 813276 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway
< 1576380462 183394 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite
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> 1576385359 218491 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Functional()14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67946&oldid=65703 5* 03Hakerh400 5* (+5327) 10Add quine program
> 1576385663 674118 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Functional()14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67947&oldid=67946 5* 03Hakerh400 5* (-55) 10
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> 1576389483 868041 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67948&oldid=67941 5* 03Salpynx 5* (+12) 10/* M */  add MUSYS
> 1576389653 986067 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Grime MC14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67949&oldid=58571 5* 03Salpynx 5* (+23) 10category
> 1576390178 960558 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Deklare14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67950&oldid=66465 5* 03A 5* (-151) 10
> 1576390439 142884 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Deklare14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67951&oldid=67950 5* 03A 5* (+471) 10/* Challenge: loop over a few values */
> 1576390625 225672 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Deklare14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67952&oldid=67951 5* 03A 5* (+434) 10/* Challenge: loop over a few values */
> 1576390698 368431 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Deklare14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67953&oldid=67952 5* 03A 5* (+194) 10/* Quick reference */
> 1576392531 25414 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Stack14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67954&oldid=67114 5* 03A 5* (+56) 10
> 1576392625 473197 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Volatile14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67955&oldid=66426 5* 03A 5* (-256) 10/* Volatile instruction minimalization */
> 1576392797 53995 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Stack14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67956&oldid=67954 5* 03A 5* (+103) 10/* Usage in esolangs */
> 1576393094 546241 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Stack14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67957&oldid=67956 5* 03A 5* (+36) 10Possible different mnemonics
> 1576393992 823250 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Postfix notation14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67958&oldid=67558 5* 03A 5* (+480) 10/* Concrete Implementations */
> 1576394188 83761 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Postfix notation14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67959&oldid=67958 5* 03A 5* (+25) 10/* Concrete Implementations */
> 1576394656 486878 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Postfix notation14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67960&oldid=67959 5* 03A 5* (-9) 10/* Concrete Implementations */ Clean the program up
> 1576394675 218189 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Postfix notation14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67961&oldid=67960 5* 03A 5* (+40) 10/* Concrete Implementations */
> 1576394964 547829 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Postfix notation14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67962&oldid=67961 5* 03A 5* (+58) 10/* Concrete Implementations */ Make it easier for beginners to understand
> 1576395101 709116 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Postfix notation14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67963&oldid=67962 5* 03A 5* (-92) 10/* Concrete Implementations */ Remove some dead code
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> 1576395877 967223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Arity14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67964&oldid=67595 5* 03A 5* (+140) 10/* In esolangs */ Add APL
> 1576397229 477410 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Postfix notation14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67965&oldid=67963 5* 03A 5* (+405) 10/* Implementation */
> 1576397267 585033 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Postfix notation14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67966&oldid=67965 5* 03A 5* (+56) 10/* Concrete Implementations */
> 1576397574 913146 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Hex9614]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67967&oldid=67898 5* 03Hex96 5* (-11) 10
< 1576398211 533038 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know there is dual port RAM, but is there a variant that has random access write-only on one side and sequential read-only on other side (or vice-versa), and is there a variant that has random-access write-only on one side, and the other side is sequential read-only that clears the memory being read (so not strictly read-only)?
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> 1576413111 516342 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Muppp14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=67969 5* 03Hex96 5* (+48) 10Created page with "Muppp is an esolang made by [[User:Hex96|Hex96]]"
> 1576413295 409083 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Muppp14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67970&oldid=67969 5* 03Hex96 5* (+191) 10
> 1576413605 681863 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Muppp14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67971&oldid=67970 5* 03Hex96 5* (+260) 10/* Tokens */
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< 1576414240 783583 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-211.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? time cube
< 1576414243 273560 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :EARTH HAS 4 CORNER SIMULTANEOUS 4-DAY TIME CUBE IN ONLY 24 HOUR ROTATION. 4 CORNER DAYS, CUBES 4 QUAD EARTH. Bible A Lie & Word Is Lies. Navel Connects 4 Corner 4s. God Is Born Of A Mother - She Left Belly B. Signature. Your dirty lying teachers use only the midnight to midnight 1 day (ignoring 3 other days) Time to not foul (already wrong) bible time. Lie that corrupts earth you educated stupid fools.
< 1576414244 79355 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-211.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? lie algebra
< 1576414245 264451 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :A Lie algebra is what you get if you take the region infinitesimally close to the identity of a Lie group and blow it up to normal size.
< 1576414262 152651 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-211.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do the four simultaneous rotations of Earth for a lie algebra of four dimensions?
< 1576414518 565393 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-211.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? lie group
< 1576414519 776440 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lie groups are groups that try being too smooth for their own good.
< 1576414531 797384 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-211.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? rotations of earth
< 1576414532 944242 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :rotations of earth? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
> 1576415192 717252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Hex9614]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67972&oldid=67967 5* 03Hex96 5* (+12) 10
> 1576415301 515673 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Muppp14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67973&oldid=67971 5* 03Hex96 5* (+108) 10/* Tokens */
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< 1576415602 715405 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the funny thing about time cube guy:  http://www.dict.org/bin/Dict?Form=Dict2&Database=gcide&Query=Civil+day     The Babylonians and
< 1576415602 922749 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :        Hindoos began their day at sunrise, the Athenians and Jews
< 1576415602 961159 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :        at sunset, the ancient Egyptians and Romans at midnight.    ; methinks his problem wasnt "science" it was bumping into "religions" who arent going to drop everything and switch
< 1576415624 443697 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like he was trying to "integrate" all the (or at least the seemingly 4 major)  systems :/   
< 1576415651 364285 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :its not surprising the "bible" did away with the other systems :/
> 1576415754 575905 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Muppp14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67974&oldid=67973 5* 03Hex96 5* (+543) 10/* Tokens */
> 1576415820 685256 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Muppp14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67975&oldid=67974 5* 03Hex96 5* (+75) 10/* Tokens */
< 1576415879 978255 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i only know that cuz i was researching lunar months once, and when you mentioned the time cube thing, it sounded familliar :/
< 1576415935 972534 :Lykaina!~lyka@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :called my parents to wish them a good saturday morning
< 1576415940 115258 :Lykaina!~lyka@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops
< 1576416089 734843 :Lykaina!~lyka@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :hint: it's sunday morning where i am
< 1576416256 107856 :Lykaina!~lyka@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :kingoffrance: astronemers begin their day at noon
< 1576416302 799469 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.35.79.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :kingoffrance: oh, Babylonians and Hindu seem the most reasonable of all. Why start the day when you’re supposed to be sleeping, or going to sleep soon, when the actual blank slate is the morning
< 1576416325 171891 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.35.79.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh so blank, it often needs coffee or tea to even become writable
< 1576416346 471491 :Lykaina!~lyka@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :or caffeine pills
< 1576416440 651859 :Lykaina!~lyka@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :healthier and cheaper than coffee or tea
< 1576416485 847461 :Lykaina!~lyka@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :(if you are already addicted to caffeine)
< 1576416687 268737 :Lykaina!~lyka@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :had a dream i was a muggle in hogwarts
< 1576416688 46766 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-211.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kingoffrance: also there are current maps that face north, old maps that face east, Australian maps that face south, and Middle-Earth maps that face west
< 1576416754 210918 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i thought if i ever get far enough for my os i would allow such things, if someone bothers to set up all the tables, why not ?
< 1576416755 396866 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-211.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :arseniiv: I think starting the day during the night is the most reasonable, because then usually each period when you're awake is completely within one day
< 1576416769 873881 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-211.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :starting in the morning wouldn't work well because not everyone wakes at the same time in the morning
< 1576416771 822121 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not so much for esoteric value, just i dont like to hardcode things
< 1576416816 93240 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i read once nasa had to do mars time, but they wrote a custom java app, didnt feel trying to make any OS do it was feasible :/
< 1576416832 252502 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :since reading that i always thought the OS was the proper place for such things
< 1576416875 958604 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-211.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lykaina: re dream where you were a muggle in Mogwarts => were you reading too much fanfiction?
< 1576416887 212748 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course you likely have lots of hardware stuff that youd have to translate back and forth
< 1576416897 427636 :Lykaina!~lyka@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: nope
< 1576416934 962251 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-211.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lykaina: Pottermore nonsense about that one historical Muggle that got into Hogwarts as far as the Sorting then?
< 1576416949 387103 :Lykaina!~lyka@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i woke before i could have sex with hermione
< 1576417052 156285 :Lykaina!~lyka@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh...she's straight...
< 1576417072 341483 :Lykaina!~lyka@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :who's the lesbian in hogwarts again?
< 1576417124 932467 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-211.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :everyone if you look through enough fanfics probably
< 1576417211 266292 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-211.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :including boys who change gender using magic such as the Polymorph potion
< 1576417401 418856 :Lykaina!~lyka@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :didn't harry marry his best friend's sister?
< 1576417458 190694 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lykaina, Lykaina Lykaina   what kind of dream is that?  cant you just convert her?
< 1576417495 454717 :Lykaina!~lyka@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was a muggle! i couldn't make hermione lesbian
< 1576417594 352583 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, your powers aren't up to the task yet
> 1576417667 43139 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Volatile14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67976&oldid=67968 5* 03A 5* (+71) 10/* More Interpreters */
< 1576417755 508728 :Lykaina!~lyka@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :brb
> 1576417871 74814 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Deklare14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67977&oldid=67953 5* 03A 5* (+46) 10/* More operators */ I give up on the confusing language
> 1576417885 353865 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Deklare14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67978&oldid=67977 5* 03A 5* (-250) 10/* Lists */
> 1576418155 126227 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Deklare14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67979&oldid=67978 5* 03A 5* (+382) 10/* Add two numbers */
> 1576418183 593438 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Deklare14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67980&oldid=67979 5* 03A 5* (-117) 10/* More operators */
< 1576418184 404106 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.35.79.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: mmayybe; at least starting the day at six or four feels better than at twelve
< 1576418268 347118 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-211.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't feel better to me. sunrise varies a lot, solar midnight varies only by half an hour, so starting at midnight is less arbitrary and follows the sun more closely
< 1576418288 880645 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-211.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(unless you live close to the equator, in which case sunrise time doesn't vary a lot, obviously)
> 1576418290 193727 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Deklare14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67981&oldid=67980 5* 03A 5* (+148) 10/* Compare two letters */
< 1576418321 374244 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.35.79.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: you shatter my dreams :P
< 1576418342 186693 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.35.79.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that they are actual things I want
< 1576418351 421237 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.35.79.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :or thingh I think about
< 1576418357 235419 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.35.79.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :things*
> 1576418411 290994 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Muppp14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67982&oldid=67975 5* 03Hex96 5* (+59) 10/* Tokens */
< 1576418414 518385 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 JOIN :#esoteric
> 1576418478 396207 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Muppp14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67983&oldid=67982 5* 03Hex96 5* (+50) 10
> 1576418542 259846 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Muppp14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67984&oldid=67983 5* 03Hex96 5* (+28) 10/* 1 character cat */
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< 1576418587 932142 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 NICK :Lord_of_Life
> 1576418751 400725 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Muppp14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=67985 5* 03Hex96 5* (+38) 10Created page with "More programs here:  ==More programs=="
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< 1576418906 23389 :LKoen!~LKoen@81.255.219.130 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1576418952 654792 :Lykaina!~lyka@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :back
< 1576419606 336750 :grumble!~grumble@freenode/staff/grumble QUIT :Disconnected by services
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< 1576420545 93220 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-211.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, do you watch airplanes?
< 1576420545 317773 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: i'm thinking stdio, fnord and fnord
< 1576420610 927092 :Lykaina!~lyka@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've seen Airplane!, does that count?
< 1576420649 258429 :Lykaina!~lyka@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, you were asking someone else
< 1576420804 724514 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.35.79.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lykaina: ah I think it’s totally okay anyway
< 1576420832 644857 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.35.79.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( stdio, fnord and fnord => are stderr and stdout in the channel’s banlist? )
< 1576420974 959900 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-211.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, seeing Airplane counts
< 1576421136 52202 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-211.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, is there a skeleton inside you?
< 1576421136 329267 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: that's a fnord fnord
< 1576421142 449402 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :In fact, the following two words were originally "stdmath" and "stdctrl".
< 1576421164 120288 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which are sufficiently rare to not have occurred more than whatever times the cutoff was.
< 1576421293 499642 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-211.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? fnord
< 1576421296 667474 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1576423409 361365 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.35.79.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :`fnord
< 1576423410 274151 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :fnord? No such file or directory
< 1576423484 828920 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.35.79.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: oh, so it’s even a thing :o I thought fungot said that accidentally
< 1576423485 354181 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :arseniiv: the problem is this: is a s/// joke of a fnord array /dev/ md0 consists of two hard drive partitions: /dev/ hda3 and /dev/ zero...
< 1576423529 584789 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.35.79.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :a s/// joke, he sed
< 1576423550 460007 :Lykaina!~lyka@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol
< 1576423823 93369 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-211.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` grep -c '<fungot>.*\<fnord\>' /hackenv/quotes # arseniiv: fungot says fnord a lot
< 1576423823 492664 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: no processes. for opening files i would've used an hp in the beginning of the other
< 1576423823 944562 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :17
< 1576423935 906889 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.35.79.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: I know
< 1576423991 592602 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.35.79.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: what a fun day we got here, don’t you agree?
< 1576423991 918153 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :arseniiv: the only scheme i know, i'm not sure what
< 1576424042 177208 :rain1!~debian@unaffiliated/rain1 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1576425325 913818 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-211.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, which species of penguin is the cutest?
< 1576425326 359705 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: you can use a simple translator from some other box look like it's published on paper too. i can't fix that right now. :)
< 1576425401 224484 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-211.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: it's not urgent, you can fix it after New Year
< 1576425401 572524 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: next will be a zone between the red and the blue whale. feels like goedel numbering somehow.
< 1576425407 676182 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-211.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok
< 1576425534 752762 :rain1!~debian@unaffiliated/rain1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :h
< 1576425535 635180 :rain1!~debian@unaffiliated/rain1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi
< 1576425794 678426 :rain1!~debian@unaffiliated/rain1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you recommend any recent science fiction?
< 1576425862 180710 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-211.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :rain1: what media would you like? anime, live action movie, comic strip, novel?
< 1576425876 764459 :rain1!~debian@unaffiliated/rain1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :novel
< 1576425924 373837 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-211.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :try Terry Pratchett, it's still recent enough
< 1576425949 33150 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-211.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or Andrzej Sapkowski's series, whatever it's called
< 1576425950 248884 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-211.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Witcher
< 1576426059 180126 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-211.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ 9 + 5
< 1576426059 826087 :j-bot!eldis4@firefly.nu PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: 14
< 1576426938 286799 :rain1!~debian@unaffiliated/rain1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ty
< 1576427308 562143 :kritixilithos!~kritixili@gateway/tor-sasl/kritixilithos QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds
< 1576428164 359391 :kritixilithos!~kritixili@gateway/tor-sasl/kritixilithos JOIN :#esoteric
< 1576429252 404377 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-211.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, why do lawyers and doctors invent crazy words for their jargon, rather than using good terminology like us in mathematics or computer science?
< 1576429253 264906 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: that's not very helpful. rarely used, scope declaration... " global" clause first.)
< 1576429468 255048 :kritixilithos!~kritixili@gateway/tor-sasl/kritixilithos PRIVMSG #esoteric :I must agree with fungot
< 1576429468 653877 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :kritixilithos: nothing against sisc specifically,
< 1576430657 939960 :rain1!~debian@unaffiliated/rain1 QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal
< 1576431322 80492 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-211.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the IOCCC website down?
< 1576433006 686162 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1576434201 810169 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-211.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, at what age do human babies start toothing?
< 1576434202 145152 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: i guess so. do you want the oo docs for the rc. :p
< 1576434212 387214 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-211.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's... not helpful
< 1576434489 600014 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :how small can a single process' state be in any given process calculus.
< 1576434514 225665 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm wondering if you can get away with storing two values, `left` and `right`.
< 1576435226 339656 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :the sparking idea is that I have a concurrent subset of my language, Mode, that uses only a few operations: spawn a process giving you back that process' ID, send a value to a process, and receive a value (from anywhere).
> 1576435552 466572 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Klein14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67986&oldid=53624 5* 03Salpynx 5* (+108) 10Add implementation link
< 1576436262 392116 :tromp!~tromp@2a02:a210:1585:3200:5450:617d:8a91:371c QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
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> 1576439576 502181 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Intcode14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67987&oldid=67930 5* 03Fizzie 5* (+4) 10It keeps happening.
< 1576439971 402256 :divergence!~div@103.108.117.150 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1576440021 265552 :diverger!~div@103.108.117.150 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
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< 1576442553 58073 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wrote a program to parse the .OBJ files for DOS program compiling (although the program that parses it does not itself run in DOS). I wrote it mainly because I wanted to see how much space a module takes up in the code segment. So, now I can see a line such as:   1 = PARA PUBLIC <0A129> "GAME_CODE" C="BC_CODE"   It will tell me that the code segment is 0xA129 bytes long.
< 1576442639 401118 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then also that it uses 0x17A bytes of a data segment.
< 1576442812 964285 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-211.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: does gnu binutils do that?
< 1576442961 814462 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :As far as I can tell it doesn't support the DOS format.
< 1576443008 129322 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :some NASM tool might?
< 1576443020 68543 :Kaynato!~Kaynato@173.199.80.51 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1576443045 475192 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe it does, although I do not have NASM
< 1576443220 438134 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have someone tried to make something with ZZ Zero? Then you can make your actual questions/complaints about it, including suggestions.
< 1576443270 589949 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Including if there is something unclear in the documentation)
< 1576443432 504727 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ZZT does not have a print to file option, but ZZ Zero does include such an option.
< 1576443475 678696 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know how to improve the keyboard handling? Currently sometimes if you try to change direction quickly it doesn't work very well.
< 1576443634 141876 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-211.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :buy a better keyboard? that's what helped me at work after I tried three different keyboards they could offer me
< 1576443698 966312 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-211.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the main problem was the strange habit I have that I press left control with the edge of my palm rather than with a finger, and some of these modern keyboards don't allow that
< 1576443791 716493 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean in the software, in ZZ Zero, it is a DOS program written in BASIC
< 1576443807 980190 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can examine the code to see how it is doing currently
< 1576443855 132939 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It uses INP(96)
< 1576444329 392944 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How many ZZT-likes are there now?
< 1576444607 645741 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wrote the file FUTURE.DOC now included with ZZ Zero mentions some possible ideas to implement in future, such as: joystick, ESC/P, FM music, ability to enable/disable rotations at runtime, eight dot mode, high score menu, etc
< 1576444864 843852 :LKoen!~LKoen@81.255.219.130 QUIT :Quit: “It’s only logical. First you learn to talk, then you learn to think. Too bad it’s not the other way round.”
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< 1576446269 832045 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric
< 1576446968 287828 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`fnord
< 1576446970 65834 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :fnord? No such file or directory
< 1576447027 593397 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`t mkx bin/fnord//echo '? No such file or directory'
< 1576447029 840487 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/fnord
< 1576447033 189477 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`fnord
< 1576447033 908220 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​? No such file or directory
> 1576447083 544597 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Daoyu14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67988&oldid=51821 5* 03Kaynato 5* (-777) 10
> 1576447122 147879 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Daoyu14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67989&oldid=67988 5* 03Kaynato 5* (-1) 10Updated description of link to implementation
< 1576447136 224904 :Kaynato!~Kaynato@173.199.80.51 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoops, didn't check "minor edit"
< 1576447158 608141 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shocking
< 1576447172 355523 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :we'll have to ban you now.
< 1576447182 899429 :Kaynato!~Kaynato@173.199.80.51 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alas, such is bureaucracy
< 1576447240 988520 :Kaynato!~Kaynato@173.199.80.51 PRIVMSG #esoteric :In other news, now that DOALC doesn't actually double the allocated memory for a Daoyu program, I feel it's much more possible to try my hand at demonstrably determining Daoyu's computational class
< 1576447497 613008 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm starting to regret sticking to a purely functional Intcode interpreter, it took me way too long to unravel the knot from output to input this time.
< 1576447531 568408 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :A monadic interface would probably help ;)
< 1576447680 555363 :Kaynato!~Kaynato@173.199.80.51 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A monadic interface for Daoyu?
< 1576447698 872100 :Kaynato!~Kaynato@173.199.80.51 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, for intcode, I wager
< 1576447726 316465 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, for Intcode, or rather the interpreter I have.
< 1576447883 506671 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :<b_jonas> fungot, which species of penguin is the cutest? <-- i read that question and a crested one immediately popped up in my mind, but then i learned they're a whole genus
< 1576447883 973760 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: where are you now? someplace warm? has no behaviour defined on numbers; it may behave however it pleases, as long as i'm alive."
< 1576447916 419713 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: in my apartment, which is warm yes
< 1576447916 803864 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: programs aren't even copyrightable" to " not even snot".
< 1576447937 684563 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: i think the courts may disagree?
< 1576447938 69327 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: last time i did it in awk, befunge, whitespace, is replaced with one backslash and the remaining instructions may deal with crouching and standing up
< 1576447994 134870 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: I managed to land on something incredibly slow (a runtime of ~one minute) this time around. The first part asked for the least amount of moves, so I wrote a BFS with a (for simplicity) return-to-origin after each visit, which was kind of pessimal given what the map turned out to look like.
< 1576448053 173222 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh yes. Heh.
< 1576448129 729749 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Switching to DFS for exploring the map and BFS for computing both the distances yielded about a 100x speedup.
< 1576448147 936030 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds
< 1576448166 455250 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I explored the map first, and realized that DFS will compute the right distance...
< 1576448174 696477 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :...so I took the lazy approach.
< 1576448225 497101 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :But my enemy this time was <<loop>>
< 1576448236 637166 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fix id
< 1576448241 183990 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : *Exception: <<loop>>
< 1576448253 599554 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, right.
< 1576448271 821113 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.35.79.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :may deal with crouching and standing up ==> I watch too many minecraft videos these times I immediately associate that phrase with it
< 1576448305 231989 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just added a "run to next output instruction" method on the side of the "run to halt" one.
< 1576448322 212998 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the loops happen because I have a function that maps the output of the program to its input... can't consume the output before the corresponding input is produced)
< 1576448339 150360 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and this time, the interleaving is somewhat intricate.
< 1576448343 365145 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds
< 1576448433 985433 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :So in the end, I took almost 80 minutes for part 1 and 8 more for part 2.
< 1576448444 636172 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it annoys me a lot.
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< 1576451399 804760 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I found a article about "ZZT Cliches", and I am not so sure of all of them. Anyways, XYZABCDE.ZZT has some things differences. It says "The most annoying songs are often repeated over and over again during gameplay, forcing you to turn off the music" but in XYZABCDE.ZZT it only plays the music once.
< 1576451445 452859 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It also says "Gems usually represent currency in ZZT games, even if they're called dollars." but I think in many games they do not call them dollars.
< 1576451455 936834 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-211.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there also an option to mute music that you can toggle during runtime?
< 1576452102 407476 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. You can push B to toggle sounds/musics
< 1576452779 200291 :Kaynato!~Kaynato@173.199.80.51 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it's fine to ask, are there any immediate tree-based computational models for which proving TC is sensible?
< 1576453081 935870 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :SKI calculus hth
< 1576453219 757157 :Kaynato!~Kaynato@173.199.80.51 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Assuming that I can't contract edges either, hmmm
< 1576453230 855660 :Kaynato!~Kaynato@173.199.80.51 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I should still view daoyu as a bitstring-based language
< 1576453528 798322 :Kaynato!~Kaynato@173.199.80.51 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm quickly remembering just how obtuse and frustrating daoyu was
< 1576456231 952129 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( next freefall better have a fan picture of florence eating soup )
< 1576456322 177732 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :possibly during a previous date
< 1576456385 840261 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i missed the previous one
< 1576456677 887173 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION reads about ZZT-OOP
< 1576456681 510897 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems pretty esoteric
< 1576456767 366668 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> ZZT-OOP is restrictive, but in a fun way. Because the language was only meant for simple adventure games, code that would be easy in other languages becomes a challenge in ZZT-OOP. However, some of us live for such challenges, and although it won't get you a date or a job, being able to code complex things - a fractal generation program, for example - using only an archaic game creation system is rather 
< 1576456770 438596 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : <hint>:1:23: error: parse error on input ‘,’
< 1576456773 373469 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :impressive.
< 1576456777 981934 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think under the right circumstances one could get a date or a job this way
< 1576457223 447368 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the ability to zap/restore labels, even in another object's program is interesting
< 1576457365 134629 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :do all objects execute in lockstep?
< 1576457912 69453 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, ZZT-OOP is working like that. Have you used ZZT-OOP?
< 1576457963 52708 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: spoilers... but this doesn't sound like Florence will be eating soup any time soon
< 1576457993 937731 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I believe we've seen her lap water from a bowl though?
< 1576458002 43112 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I expect soup would be the same.
< 1576458034 922386 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although making stuff in ZZT involves more than just ZZT-OOP; there is also programming the stats and board configuration, including many things not possible using the built-in editor (you will have to use external editors, such as KevEdit or ZZTQED, for some things)
< 1576458193 700370 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I haven't used ZZT or ZZT-OOP yet
< 1576458212 64792 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what sort of things are not possible using the built-in editor?
< 1576458380 46417 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Preset laser beams, abnormal directions, abnormal speeds, statless pieces that are normally stat or vice versa, preset bullets/stars/beams, putting arbitrary elements under stats, setting the starting health/ammo/gems/torches/keys, and many other things.
< 1576458578 173503 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: you're just not using your imagination tdnh
< 1576458702 578227 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: there won't be another noodle incident.
< 1576458733 394813 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also i said fan picture
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< 1576460576 251900 :Lykaina!~lyka@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :ever hear of something called toki pona?
< 1576460578 26907 :Lykaina!~lyka@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want to learn it
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< 1576460783 701006 :Kaynatwo!~Kaynato@176.113.72.227 NICK :Kaynato
< 1576460920 394767 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lykaina: looks interesting
< 1576461189 279113 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-211.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lykaina: yes, and I decided it's a really bad idea
< 1576461240 389315 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-211.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or at least it's not an idea that I like)
< 1576461257 203739 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-211.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(could be worth as an esoteric experiment for other people, just to see why it doesn't work)
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< 1576462139 307087 :Kaynato!~Kaynato@176.113.72.227 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there any good way to prove something *isn't* TC? Hmm
< 1576462370 933315 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-211.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kaynato: the most common way is to prove that you can translate the program of the language to finite state pushdown automata 
< 1576462398 690876 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-211.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :plus there are some more trivial special cases that are easier to prove
< 1576462406 766141 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :prove that you can predict its equivalent of the halting problem
< 1576462494 968577 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-211.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :in Slashes, what is the simplest way to write an infinite loop that fetches a new pattern infinitely many times?
< 1576462521 316445 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-211.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :not necessarily a different pattern, just a new pattern, it doesn't loop within a single substitution, such as a substitution with empty pattern
< 1576462579 53629 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :as far as i know you need a quine-like construction once you have more than one substitution involved
< 1576462621 855877 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-211.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kaynato: oh, and there are programming languages that can only do primitive recursive loops, but that comes up less often
< 1576462622 981719 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but maybe you could do a special case just for an infinite loop
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< 1576462650 411730 :Kaynato!~Kaynato@176.113.72.227 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ahh... I'm not entirely sure if that's the case for this one
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< 1576462890 642253 :Kaynato!~Kaynato@176.113.72.227 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd look more at treating daoyu as a FSPA but the self-modification and obtuse data structure make it ... problematic to wrap my head around
< 1576463056 237215 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-211.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I should check Rosetta Code, maybe it has such a program
< 1576463075 188447 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-211.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kaynato: the usual abbreviate is PDA for some reason
< 1576463082 360217 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-211.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in Push-Down Automaton
< 1576463085 390687 :Kaynato!~Kaynato@176.113.72.227 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, thanks
< 1576463111 54031 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-211.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :note though that that can refer to both the deterministic version and the nondeterministic version, which are different
< 1576463166 552489 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-211.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope, can't find anything about /// on Rosetta Code
< 1576463196 869095 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it may be hard to search for
< 1576463203 756585 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-211.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah
< 1576463218 815035 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-211.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but they usually have an index page for every language
< 1576463238 712565 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-211.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/every/each/
< 1576463339 259293 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-211.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd like to note that such an infinite loop in Fuun DNA is much simpler because, even though it only does one substitution for each pattern-replacement that it reads, the pattern can wildcard match and the replacement can copy matched parts, so it can just duplicate whatever is ahead if it, leading to a simple print<< x2 style quine
< 1576463429 653600 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-211.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I wonder if anyone ever made a quine in Fuun DNA+RNA, one that outputs its DNA code graphically
< 1576463880 279065 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: For fun, bolted a quick disassembler to the Intcode interpreter and added labels and comments to my day 15 input. Was actually relatively straightforward.
< 1576463914 666224 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: try it on my hello world program (on the wiki) :)
< 1576463937 52328 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it's actually tame)
< 1576463982 356828 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(there is self-modification, but only on immediate parameters)
< 1576464251 748153 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It outputs http://ix.io/24zb and then barfs on 29 being an "illegal opcode".
< 1576464293 220931 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is fine because that's all data
< 1576464302 965452 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :> ord 'e' - ord 'H'
< 1576464306 555481 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 29
< 1576464359 212543 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, the 0 between 'l' and the other 'l' is also the 0 for the jump target? 
< 1576464362 802865 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :though I guess it could start outputing 'db <nnn>' stuff.
< 1576464363 866216 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :How economical.
< 1576464368 568209 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: yes.
< 1576464380 300103 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that's probably what it would do if it was a real disassembler.
< 1576464419 494887 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :FWIW, there was exactly one instance of self-modification in the puzzle input, and it was on "setlt <...> #N VAR" instruction, where it was used to do indirect addressing of memory.
< 1576464424 529241 :Kaynato!~Kaynato@176.113.72.227 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it dishonorable to respecify an esolang to make it TC on the grounds that otherwise, proving or disproving TC is a nightmare? :(
< 1576464428 126017 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(To update the <...> part.)
< 1576464454 361430 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kaynato: no
< 1576464494 379888 :Kaynato!~Kaynato@176.113.72.227 PRIVMSG #esoteric :after reimplementing daoyu with lazy data structures, SIFTS from before turned out to be hideous and a total horror
< 1576464503 585809 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kaynato: However, if the TC status is uncertain it will probably attract more attention.
< 1576464524 856587 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(here)
< 1576464526 285670 :Kaynato!~Kaynato@176.113.72.227 PRIVMSG #esoteric :daoyu doesn't attract much attention, ahh
< 1576464543 61548 :Kaynato!~Kaynato@176.113.72.227 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!wiki Daoyu
< 1576464563 62821 :Kaynato!~Kaynato@176.113.72.227 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://esolangs.org/wiki/Daoyu
< 1576464627 792742 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite
< 1576464721 317507 :Kaynato!~Kaynato@176.113.72.227 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm probably just wasting my time and energy trying to do things with it :s
> 1576464915 529098 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Daoyu14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67990&oldid=67989 5* 03Kaynato 5* (+427) 10Annotate the running example
< 1576465245 559637 :Kaynato!~Kaynato@176.113.72.227 PART #esoteric :"Leaving"
< 1576465599 956723 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :never assume that.
> 1576465837 457693 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Pistons & Pistons14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67991&oldid=64201 5* 03Salpynx 5* (+616) 10/* Examples */ Hello World
> 1576465911 753658 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Special:Log/upload14]]4 upload10 02 5* 03Salpynx 5*  10uploaded "[[02File:Minecraft Pistons Hello World.png10]]"
> 1576466033 227673 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Pistons & Pistons14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67993&oldid=67991 5* 03Salpynx 5* (+118) 10/* Hello World */ Implemented in Minecraft pistons
> 1576466131 515977 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Special:Log/upload14]]4 upload10 02 5* 03Salpynx 5*  10uploaded "[[02File:Pnp-xx.png10]]"
> 1576466430 530922 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Special:Log/upload14]]4 upload10 02 5* 03Salpynx 5*  10uploaded "[[02File:Pnp-split.png10]]"
> 1576466533 227451 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Pistons & Pistons14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67996&oldid=67993 5* 03Salpynx 5* (+162) 10/* Infinite Loop */ Minecraft implementations of other simple examples
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> 1576476872 289786 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:12Me2114]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67997&oldid=60102 5* 0312Me21 5* (-761) 10Replaced content with "wish I had a BANCStar interpreter :("
< 1576480044 484970 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How can you write zero with roman numbers?
< 1576480272 476511 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I propose 'O'
< 1576480290 121735 :imode-ruby!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's no numeral for zero.
< 1576480349 74278 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is what I thought
< 1576480369 124435 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I do know how to write fractions with roman numbers, though.)
< 1576480805 310073 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see an "N" "NULLA" but you'd have to google to see where i saw that
< 1576480857 156652 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i might have done the "N" myself and it was specified some other way and i thought "N" was easier e.g. for ascii)
< 1576480908 208138 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :theres also ( vinculum that look like C and horizontally-reversed C, but i dont recall what those are used for;   there are some variants from what i recall,  whether nulla and vinculum's are used or not
< 1576480949 341359 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just used '(' and ')' for vinculums to specify in e.g. ascii
< 1576481174 935790 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, observe my local dialect "variant" use of apostrophe in vinculum's
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> 1576483427 549920 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Muppp14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67998&oldid=67984 5* 03Hex96 5* (+38) 10/* Tokens */
> 1576483734 534293 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Muppp14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=67999&oldid=67998 5* 03Hex96 5* (+182) 10/* Example Programs */
< 1576484339 495427 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :im not sure, i vageuly recall nulla might be it is supposoed to look like O with / through it,  aka "empty set" symbol;   i could be way off
< 1576486480 301863 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-211.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`toroman 0
< 1576486481 836606 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1576487222 512523 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-211.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`toroman 6270
< 1576487224 827672 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :Number too large
< 1576487228 296874 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-211.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm
< 1576487232 758154 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-211.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`toroman -1
< 1576487233 564833 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :I
< 1576487236 533361 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-211.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`toroman -20
< 1576487237 264470 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :XX
< 1576487239 877352 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-211.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`toroman 3.14
< 1576487240 588602 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :III
< 1576487273 402513 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-211.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :this isn't a particularly robust script
< 1576487286 712116 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-211.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :my excuse is that I basically lifted it off from a golf solution
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< 1576488056 185987 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, you can see it is not work with some stuff. (TeX will produce no output if you try to convert any zero or negative number into a roman number, and multiples of one thousand will always use M for each thousand.)
< 1576488138 428752 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The "Game of XYZABCDE" series is numbered by roman numbers, so I try to figure how to name a prequel; I have Part I, and then the sequel is Part II, and after that is Part III and then Part IV. But, then you would have "part zero", although I suppose Part S (meaning half) can still be possible
< 1576488338 707338 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Same can be true of any other series of something that will be named by roman numbers.)
< 1576488345 918085 :LBPHacker!lbphacker@trigraph.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1576488388 867277 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-211.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: does TeX do that with or without an error/warning message?
< 1576488421 68630 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is no error/warning message.
< 1576488526 767547 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can use \romannumeral-` to absorb the next character without interpreting it, which is sometimes useful in macros if the next character would be { or }
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< 1576489536 491599 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are many kind of "tricks" that can be made with TeX.
< 1576489769 593606 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is one of them (I forget where I read it). Another, that I think I made up by myself, is to use an insertion with alternating marks and penalties and then use \vsplit to extract the marks in the output routine; since \write will only work if a page is shipped out and will not preserve tokens exactly, using this other way can sometimes be helpful.
< 1576489898 582995 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Insertions are normally used for such things as footnotes, but can also be used for many other purposes, such as this.)
< 1576490237 778331 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Appendix D of the TeXbook lists many kind of tricks possible with TeX, too.
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< 1576495394 301207 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://familypedia.wikia.org/wiki/Roman_numerals   theres a little info about "N" for "NULLA"
< 1576495706 651618 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that page says the ( ) are called apostrophus, and vinculum are overlines or |, so whatever i read long ago was either confused, or they are somewhat interchangeable and i perhaps settled on input using ( ) for simplicity, but the number could be displayed as either ( ) or overlines, |, etc.
< 1576495749 793597 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i.e. i may have just chosen ( )   for simplicity of input, and called it "vinculum" on the theory i could output/display the overlines and/or  |  stuff )
< 1576495874 336303 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i.e. i probably wanted a standard ascii-like input format, user could pick their "output style")
< 1576495941 446221 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/ascii-like/subset of ascii/
> 1576497816 882251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User talk:12Me2114]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=68000 5* 03A 5* (+71) 10Created page with "[https://github.com/jloughry/BANCStar There is a BANCStar interpreter.]"
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< 1576501418 393364 :cpressey!~cpressey@5.133.242.4 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let a = 3 in let b = a in let a = b + 3 in a
< 1576501422 394299 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 6
< 1576501518 957752 :cpressey!~cpressey@5.133.242.4 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let a = 3 in let a = a + 3 in a
< 1576501523 747009 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : *Exception: <<loop>>
< 1576501696 87529 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let a = a in a
< 1576501700 911413 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : *Exception: <<loop>>
< 1576502029 277919 :cpressey!~cpressey@5.133.242.4 PRIVMSG #esoteric :letwreck
< 1576503069 155880 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let a = 3 in do a <- pure (a + 3); pure a
< 1576503073 184695 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : error:
< 1576503073 223241 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :     • Ambiguous type variable ‘m0’ arising from a use of ‘show_M336512966164...
< 1576503073 223322 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :       prevents the constraint ‘(Show (m0 Integer))’ from being solved.
< 1576503084 926023 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let a = 3 in runIdentity $ do a <- pure (a + 3); pure a
< 1576503088 970155 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 6
< 1576503097 646374 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :The worst possible workaround!
< 1576503836 587024 :kritixilithos!~kritixili@gateway/tor-sasl/kritixilithos JOIN :#esoteric
< 1576505264 757972 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds
< 1576507155 897748 :rain1!~debian@unaffiliated/rain1 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1576507246 308826 :rain1!~debian@unaffiliated/rain1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :terry tao is working on collatz problem
< 1576507251 84635 :rain1!~debian@unaffiliated/rain1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://terrytao.wordpress.com/2019/09/10/almost-all-collatz-orbits-attain-almost-bounded-values/
< 1576507870 355180 :rain1!~debian@unaffiliated/rain1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i found a story to read: ted chiang short stories book
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< 1576513212 751317 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`f2c 500
< 1576513217 544361 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :f2c? No such file or directory
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< 1576518213 381359 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.35.79.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ctof -273.15
< 1576518214 85312 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​-273.15°C = -459.67°F
< 1576518225 389365 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.35.79.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ctof -123456789
< 1576518226 169212 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​-123456789.00°C = -222222188.20°F
< 1576518229 559337 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.35.79.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow
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< 1576520125 285434 :bunnyocto!b2c5e252@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aight. how many attempts do I need to write memcpy and memcmp correctly in assembly :D
< 1576520178 19254 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah a nice exercise
< 1576520181 625601 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which architecture
< 1576520396 708599 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric
< 1576520549 299567 :bunnyocto!b2c5e252@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric :an esoteric one
< 1576520844 779606 :bunnyocto!b2c5e252@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but apparentely my assembler has a bug with address calculation
< 1576520846 41217 :bunnyocto!b2c5e252@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric :damnit
< 1576520952 922430 :bunnyocto!b2c5e252@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or I forgot an origin directive
< 1576520968 802256 :bunnyocto!b2c5e252@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or the assembler is ignoring the origin directive
< 1576521100 71155 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :doh
< 1576521368 966492 :bunnyocto!b2c5e252@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok. 1st attempt was a fail.
< 1576521466 894581 :rain1!~debian@unaffiliated/rain1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what books are you reading?
< 1576522554 140450 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.35.79.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :rain1: reading Egan stuff lately, mostly stories now, but several years ago I read novels like Schild’s ladder (that was actually a first book of his I read, and because of an acquaintance’s advice)
< 1576522602 188218 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.35.79.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :though I think this one dive is almost completed now, I’ll resume then with webserials’ updates
< 1576522667 734220 :bunnyocto!b2c5e252@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the assembler produces wrong code :(
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< 1576523044 778782 :bunnyocto!b2c5e252@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codepad.org/zBkxEUhC <_ yeah all right no wonder
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< 1576524097 690293 :kritixilithos!~kritixili@gateway/tor-sasl/kritixilithos QUIT :Quit: quit
< 1576524396 118194 :bunnyocto!b2c5e252@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: http://codepad.org/53TtacHM <- there you go
< 1576525044 813876 :bunnyocto!b2c5e252@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(.l is a label, .x is an exported label)
< 1576525053 620336 :bunnyocto!b2c5e252@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(.adrN is "load address into register N")
< 1576525065 853675 :bunnyocto!b2c5e252@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(.xadrN is the same thing but for exported labels)
< 1576525094 474184 :bunnyocto!b2c5e252@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(push and pop require an explicit stack pointer register)
< 1576525111 430579 :bunnyocto!b2c5e252@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(so do call and ret)
< 1576525139 875623 :bunnyocto!b2c5e252@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(comparison jumps implicitly use rc for the target address)
< 1576525863 421918 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-132.catv.broadband.hu JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1576526033 221328 :bunnyocto!b2c5e252@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess one downside is that you can only load 32bit constants into ra,rb and rc.
< 1576526041 138928 :bunnyocto!b2c5e252@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise you need a load plus a mov
< 1576526266 924086 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-132.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :bunnyocto: re memcpy and memcmp, if it's for x86_64 or x86_32, get a well-written one from https://www.agner.org/optimize/#asmlib ; for other archs get them from gnu libc or libgcc, I don't know which one has it these days
< 1576526290 168820 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-132.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait
< 1576526298 38286 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-132.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :for an esoteric architecture
< 1576526307 280900 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-132.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, then you might be out of luck, unless it's some well-known one
< 1576526323 570950 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-132.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :rain1: Umberto Eco books right now
< 1576526374 594070 :rain1!~debian@unaffiliated/rain1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yeah
< 1576526382 286548 :rain1!~debian@unaffiliated/rain1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i read one about the pendulum
< 1576526506 836573 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-132.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also have a Sapkowski book here, lined up for read later
< 1576526848 965365 :bunnyocto!b2c5e252@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well you could use ldw (load word) instead of ldb (load byte) and copy 4 bytes at a time
< 1576526874 817888 :bunnyocto!b2c5e252@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but as of now speed is not my concern :)
< 1576526884 936789 :bunnyocto!b2c5e252@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gotta get functionality running, optimization is for later
< 1576526962 949762 :bunnyocto!b2c5e252@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could even use the push instruction for that I guess.
< 1576526985 161987 :bunnyocto!b2c5e252@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric :push x y is basically memory[x] = y; x += 4;
< 1576526995 265060 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-132.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :bunnyocto: maybe make your compiler optimize copies of compile time known short length specifically, because that's the most common case. just make sure it works if you copy with the source and destination pointers being exactly equal.
< 1576527427 294974 :bunnyocto!b2c5e252@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't have a compiler yet.
< 1576527431 457153 :bunnyocto!b2c5e252@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric :still working on the assembler
< 1576527439 940838 :bunnyocto!b2c5e252@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric :needs support for linking.
< 1576527470 899794 :bunnyocto!b2c5e252@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm working on a project I call bootstrap.
< 1576527485 122742 :LKoen!~LKoen@lstlambert-657-1-123-43.w92-154.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1576527548 579836 :bunnyocto!b2c5e252@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has the parts: create and implement a CPU. Implement an assembler, linker, disassembler. Implement an OS. Create and implement a "high level" language in assembly. Then create and implement it in said "high level language"
< 1576527579 847842 :LKoen!~LKoen@81.255.219.130 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1576527744 410289 :rain1!~debian@unaffiliated/rain1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i ssthat nand to tetris?
< 1576527812 845649 :bunnyocto!b2c5e252@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric :?
< 1576527883 224128 :bunnyocto!b2c5e252@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah I see. "NAND to Tetris"
< 1576527885 642846 :bunnyocto!b2c5e252@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. That's not it.
< 1576527911 573152 :bunnyocto!b2c5e252@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've just always wanted to do this.
< 1576527923 270927 :bunnyocto!b2c5e252@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe i'll go further and do some VHDL maybe
< 1576527933 40470 :bunnyocto!b2c5e252@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that I can load it onto a nano FPGA or someting.
< 1576528071 591051 :bunnyocto!b2c5e252@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have nothing better to do might I say 
< 1576528085 262499 :bunnyocto!b2c5e252@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not at the moment at least.
< 1576528106 976875 :rain1!~debian@unaffiliated/rain1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :its a cool project
< 1576528329 591945 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-132.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :bunnyocto: look at Magic-1 at least, to learn from other people's failures in such a project, and look at other projects he links to
< 1576528953 178207 :rain1!~debian@unaffiliated/rain1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :does anyone know tensor products of modules?
< 1576528955 819106 :rain1!~debian@unaffiliated/rain1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do I work out Q[x]/(x-1) (x)_Q Q[x]/(x+1) ?
< 1576528988 388140 :rain1!~debian@unaffiliated/rain1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nvm i just realized its = Q[x]/((x-1) + (x+1))
< 1576530476 149358 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know some instruction sets have memcpy and/or memcmp are built in operations.
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< 1576530797 215110 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although some only have built-in memcmp to compare if it matches or not and not to determine the sort order.
< 1576530886 843084 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Glulx has mcopy to copy a memory block (which may be overlapping), and it is possible to use the linearsearch opcode to check for matching or not matching memory blocks.
< 1576531079 57241 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :For example, you can write "linearsearch X,Length,Y,0,1,0,5,$" to check if the memory blocks at X and Y with the specified length are matching or not. (You can also use the linearsearch opcode to implement strlen, too.)
< 1576532029 653558 :rain1!~debian@unaffiliated/rain1 QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal
< 1576532169 85381 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-132.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, in English, what do you call it when a men's suit jacket has buttons in two parallel columns?
< 1576532169 237139 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: hey... :) so gimp, emacs, java, assembler
< 1576532592 918270 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.35.79.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :I always suspected emacs!
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< 1576535455 72949 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-132.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: apparently they're called "double-breasted jacket"
< 1576535455 213848 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: someone once said the jungle is at http://stream1.jungletrain.net:8000 do
< 1576535472 397786 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, first hard AoC task.
< 1576535555 976192 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also somewhat nasty...
< 1576535691 672648 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I liked it, but it is kind of a trick.
< 1576535706 722390 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1576535754 203274 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Predicting a lower-than-usual 2-star : 1-star ratio.
< 1576535765 419340 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Very plausible.
< 1576535800 33411 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-132.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right, stars
< 1576535824 131732 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-132.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am a zero-star programmer, since I live in a city that's so bright even during the nights that I can't see any stars on the sky
< 1576535838 768402 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-132.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :only the Moon, the Venus, and clouds
< 1576535844 746992 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds
< 1576535845 149909 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-132.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and lots of reflected city lights
< 1576535852 861870 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not even Orion?
< 1576535876 472286 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-132.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, I'm exaggerating a bit
< 1576535881 879187 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 NICK :Lord_of_Life
< 1576535892 915239 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-132.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can walk a few hundred meters to get to places where I can see the brighter stars
< 1576535906 331270 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-132.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but zero-star programmer sounds nicer
< 1576536153 495765 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Now I'm wondering whether the periodicity of the input can be exploited. (I'm only exploiting a property of the offset, and I suspect that's kind of essential.)
< 1576536345 812407 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought about that before coming up with the trick, but it seemed like (at least for an arbitrary digit) the least common multiple of the periodicity of the signal and the pattern (which I'm calling W for 'wavelet' in my commentary, incidentally) would be a pretty large number. So it wasn't at least an obvious speedup.
< 1576536370 929348 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I don't think all the example and the input offsets would have had the property if it wasn't intended to be done that way.)
< 1576536390 858687 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-132.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? aoc
< 1576536392 113053 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :aoc? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1576536447 113956 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Hmm. Maybe we have different approaches.
< 1576536546 621721 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-132.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? advent of code
< 1576536547 825015 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :advent of code? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1576536583 141385 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-132.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slashlearn aoc/Advent of Code (AoC) is a series of programming puzzles that some regulars enjoy, found at "https://adventofcode.com/2019/about".
< 1576536585 825043 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'aoc/advent of code (aoc) is a series of programming puzzles that some regulars enjoy, found at "https:': adventofcode.com/2019/about".
< 1576536625 762802 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-132.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what?
< 1576536635 280929 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-132.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh darn
< 1576536645 443156 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert
< 1576536646 465134 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done.
< 1576536658 787998 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-132.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, I'd have fixed it too
< 1576536663 29378 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? slashlearn
< 1576536664 173098 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :slashlearn? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1576536669 769379 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? le/rn
< 1576536670 123765 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-132.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :two slashes
< 1576536670 945035 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :le/rn makes creating wisdom entries manually a thing of the past. Usage: `le/[/]rn <key>//<wisdom>
< 1576536696 367547 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh I thought it said something about preventing accidents...
< 1576536819 469385 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-132.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slashlearn aoc//Advent of Code (AoC) is a series of programming puzzles that some regulars enjoy, found at "https://adventofcode.com/2019/about".
< 1576536822 25095 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'aoc': Advent of Code (AoC) is a series of programming puzzles that some regulars enjoy, found at "https://adventofcode.com/2019/about".
< 1576536824 641368 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-132.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? aof
< 1576536825 897083 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :aof? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1576536826 418364 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-132.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? aoc
< 1576536827 661043 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :Advent of Code (AoC) is a series of programming puzzles that some regulars enjoy, found at "https://adventofcode.com/2019/about".
< 1576537154 697366 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-132.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? euclid
< 1576537155 879769 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :euclid? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
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< 1576537370 509383 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-132.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slashlearn euclid//Euclid is a short geeky game in which the goal is to do Euclidean compass and straightedge constructions in as few steps as possible. It runs in the browser, found at "http://www.euclidthegame.com/". It was popular among #esoteric regulars in 2016-07.
< 1576537372 873200 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'euclid': Euclid is a short geeky game in which the goal is to do Euclidean compass and straightedge constructions in as few steps as possible. It runs in the browser, found at "http://www.euclidthegame.com/". It was popular among #esoteric regulars in 2016-07.
< 1576537466 73626 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-132.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :we should document these community fads
< 1576537492 834678 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're called "Euclidean compass and straightedge constructions" because they're constructions similar to the game Euclid?
> 1576537544 265660 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Mu614]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68001&oldid=59060 5* 03Challenger5 5* (-10) 10Simplify Turing machine
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< 1576537743 601731 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-132.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: no, or at least not the browser-based game. I have on my bookshelf Hajós's great reference book to elementary geometry, and in chapter 22 it introduces Euclidean compass and straightedge constructions. The book was published in 1960, so it definitely predates any browser-based games. 
< 1576537770 83650 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-132.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though of course the browser-based game could be just a modern implementation of an older game, just like how there are browser-based chess games.
< 1576537961 615181 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-132.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, now I'm imagining children born in the 21st century who meet chess as a browser-based video game first, and are later astonished to find out that it's centuries old and used to be played with carved wooden pieces or steps sent in snail mail.
< 1576537979 60041 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-132.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or the same about Go.
< 1576538011 553056 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-132.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually I think I even read an anecdote of that sort somewhere on the internet about Go.
< 1576538109 488507 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-132.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :And unlike chess, compass and straightedge constructions make much more sense as a video game than on paper, because on paper your constructions get imprecise very quickly. You can get somewhat better if you're careful what steps you take, and if you know how to handle the tools like rulers as well as an architect, but then it's no longer the simple abstract system of compass and straightedge 
< 1576538115 480901 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-132.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :constructions.
< 1576538245 399268 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-132.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Obviously you could also say that typing is more convenient on a computerized word processors on a computer and printer than on electromechanical typewriters where you can edit text by cutting ticker tape, and that even that makes more sense than typing documents on a mechanical typewriter where you can make at most three or four copies at a time with carbon paper, and you have to retype the whole thing 
< 1576538251 430200 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-132.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you need more than that many copies.
< 1576538418 433262 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.35.79.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yeah
< 1576538456 865109 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.35.79.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used a mechanical typewriter for fun for a time, I never made anything neat enough
< 1576538474 504866 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.35.79.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :and there were oh so many typos
< 1576538503 73051 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.35.79.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I beaten all my fingers off
< 1576538508 737654 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-132.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I played with two mechanical typewriters when I was young, just for playing: a normal one and one of those toy ones that you buy for children and aren't suitable for real applications because IT DOESN'T HAVE LOWERCASE LETTERS;
< 1576538531 312766 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.35.79.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow :D
< 1576538557 737740 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Suitable only for angry applications.
< 1576538572 115975 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would sometimes use a typewriter for typing an address on an envelope.
< 1576538573 463185 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-132.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then, much later, I used a more modern electronic typewriter with hundreds of bytes of RAM buffer so you can set it up to not immediately type a line so you can backspace errors without any physical remains, to learn typing
< 1576538585 955056 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.35.79.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :now you remind me what traditions there were for typing roman numerals on cyrillic-only typewriters (almost all of them here)
< 1576538588 943294 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-132.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :though of course that wasn't when I really learned to type, it's IRC that did that
< 1576538688 882719 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-132.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :arseniiv: cheaper typewriters in Hungary traditionally omitted three letters: íúű. you can find older manuscripts written without those letters.
< 1576538723 493662 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-132.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and of course those typewriters also don't have the digits 0 and 1, so o and l were used instead
< 1576538778 61907 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-132.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and even the better typewriters don't have all the symbols that mathematicians use for formulas, so mathematical manuscripts use handwritten greek letters, and you use underlining and double underlining to mark bold and italic variables when you want to be clear
< 1576538812 846845 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.35.79.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 often looked as I already, and for V one used У (and Х for X, and what for L, I don’t remember at all, but surely that should have occurred sufficiently rarer), but that’s not all: for economy or what, I’ve usually seen II typed as П and III as Ш. Now that’s really eclectic: 1, П, Ш, 1У, У, У1, УП, УШ, 1Х…
< 1576538895 251683 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-132.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :arseniiv: is that used in legal texts, which often number sections or lists in roman numerals, sometimes in lowercase?
< 1576538897 341313 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :chess was also occasionally played with real people as the pieces:  https://archive.org/details/TheSeventhSealAFilm/
< 1576538905 934417 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.35.79.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :this looks more in context printed in the a typewritery font, though. In a sans serif it doesn’t invoke too many associations for me here in my IRC client
< 1576538909 493444 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this seems lost to history too
< 1576538925 801524 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-132.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kingoffrance: yes, there were performances of live chess
< 1576538992 470268 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-132.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kingoffrance: also chess sets that are more decorated than the ordinary carved ones, ranging in price from the ordinary tourist souvenier ones up to ones you find in museums that inherited royal collections
< 1576539025 288071 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that makes total sense; billiards was supposedly for royalty at first, now in bars
< 1576539027 110966 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-132.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :arseniiv: well sure, we're programmers, we use fonts where 1 and l look different
< 1576539038 181792 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.35.79.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :<b_jonas> arseniiv: is that used in legal texts, which often number sections or lists in roman numerals, sometimes in lowercase? => this is an interesting question. I haven’t been in time to see many such typed documents, but I think here lower-case romans should have been a rare occasion. Hopefully someone wrote about that, but it wasn’t occurred to me to find out until now
< 1576539064 904751 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-132.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :arseniiv: I haven't seen typewritten legal texts either, admittedly, only printed and online ones
< 1576539077 264653 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-132.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but they do sometimes have lowercase roman sequences
< 1576539122 658948 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-132.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :plus the weird § sign that's used only in legal texts
< 1576539142 285378 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-132.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :admittedly mathematical texts have much more unique weird signs
< 1576539164 588272 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh im almost certain my mother's electronic typewriter had that :/  not on my computer keyboard
< 1576539168 590932 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and some fractions IIRC
< 1576539170 287063 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A section sign is sometimes used in documents other than legal texts
< 1576539177 70150 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-132.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :∂
< 1576539220 964438 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.35.79.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :here we are also accustomed to that § sign, it’s often used in school textbooks and I think many non-school ones still
< 1576539239 196869 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-132.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno, I only see them in legal texts
< 1576539296 179966 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.35.79.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :<b_jonas> admittedly mathematical texts have much more unique weird signs => I like there are plethora of signs for [beginning and] ending proofs
< 1576539329 215100 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Section sign is included in the PC character set (for whatever reason they decided which characters to put, I don't know), so like everything else in the PC character set they are sometimes used in computer games for PC
< 1576539557 819285 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-132.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sign has the shortcut \S in plain TeX, and a place in one of the base fonts of plain TeX, so it can't be too rare
< 1576539588 805226 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it is also included in Plain TeX
< 1576539622 762112 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-132.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, it's also included in iso-8859-1 and CP437, but that makes more sense if it's used in legal texts, because they wanted to sell those PCs and printers to people who work with legal texts
< 1576539698 225397 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I suppose that is something they may wish to do
< 1576539933 934217 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-132.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :about today's http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/love-5 , I think that the solution in https://pbfcomics.com/comics/nice-shirt/ may work better
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< 1576563451 986079 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Empathic Healer {2WB} Creature - Cleric Horror (2/2) ;; Lifelink ;; First strike ;; {T}, Pay X life: Prevent the next X damage to target damageable this turn.
< 1576563691 693758 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hymn to Aurora {1WG} Legendary Enchantment ;; +1: Add one mana of any color. ;; +1: Change all manas in your mana pool into a single color of your choice. ;; -X: Target player gains X life.
< 1576563872 274317 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Discordant Crossroads {?} World Enchantment ;; Nonworld permanents enter the battlefield tapped.
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< 1576572938 893900 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-132.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: the mana cost for that last one is {3}, it's called Orb of Dreams
< 1576573059 850587 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-132.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Empathic Healer looks interesting
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< 1576574493 68120 :bunnyocto!b2c5e1f7@178.197.225.247 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay. all asm tests finally pass for memcmp and memcpy
< 1576574626 607026 :bunnyocto!b2c5e1f7@178.197.225.247 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but writing asm is way too painful.
< 1576574630 669518 :bunnyocto!b2c5e1f7@178.197.225.247 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gotta start working on the compiler :)
< 1576575011 431299 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1576575145 50261 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except the type and supertype.
< 1576575268 541666 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bunnyocto: Assembly language of what computer?
< 1576575287 948447 :bunnyocto!b2c5e1f7@178.197.225.247 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or at least introduce some macros for the assembler :)
< 1576575292 751744 :bunnyocto!b2c5e1f7@178.197.225.247 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: A made up one
< 1576575303 447158 :bunnyocto!b2c5e1f7@178.197.225.247 PRIVMSG #esoteric :see https://github.com/bunnyocto/bootstrap
< 1576575343 694522 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, allowing macros in assembler is good
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< 1576578343 771815 :bunnyocto!b2c5e1f7@178.197.225.247 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok. added .save, .ret and .eof
< 1576578360 758496 :bunnyocto!b2c5e1f7@178.197.225.247 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this way you don't have to remember to pop saved registers, .ret will take care of it. Just use .save to save them.
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< 1576579142 273938 :bunnyocto!b2c5e1f7@178.197.225.247 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Could not compile assembly file "stdlib_test.S": "Invalid line: \".m\\txcallc\\tstd::test::memcpy\"! Unknown op \".m\"!"!
< 1576579147 418234 :bunnyocto!b2c5e1f7@178.197.225.247 PRIVMSG #esoteric :too much string nesting...
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< 1576580035 677948 :bunnyocto!b2c5e1f7@178.197.225.247 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now I could add .whilenz or something. Hm.
< 1576580050 215829 :bunnyocto!b2c5e1f7@178.197.225.247 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the problem is it's gonna produce slow code.
< 1576580077 227335 :bunnyocto!b2c5e1f7@178.197.225.247 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because jumps don't take immediate addresses
< 1576580081 600526 :bunnyocto!b2c5e1f7@178.197.225.247 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you have to juggle registers.
< 1576580107 375037 :bunnyocto!b2c5e1f7@178.197.225.247 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so if you're nesting whiles or ifs then you'll have to juggle registers
< 1576580137 819098 :bunnyocto!b2c5e1f7@178.197.225.247 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or constantly reload the address at every jump
< 1576580184 201146 :bunnyocto!b2c5e1f7@178.197.225.247 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I mean...
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< 1576581165 524338 :bunnyocto!b2c5e1f7@178.197.225.247 PRIVMSG #esoteric :technically the assembler can calculate which registers need to be saved and where
< 1576581183 642587 :bunnyocto!b2c5e1f7@178.197.225.247 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if the user declares which registers he/she wants to use
< 1576581243 597152 :bunnyocto!b2c5e1f7@178.197.225.247 PRIVMSG #esoteric :neat
< 1576581418 935578 :bunnyocto!b2c5e1f7@178.197.225.247 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codepad.org/zQvvtSqq
< 1576581465 952625 :bunnyocto!b2c5e1f7@178.197.225.247 PRIVMSG #esoteric :based on var and args I can determine which registers are in use and which need to be saved before a call
< 1576581544 697436 :bunnyocto!b2c5e1f7@178.197.225.247 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also I can determine which need to be saved within the function
< 1576581550 857257 :bunnyocto!b2c5e1f7@178.197.225.247 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so no need for .save directives either :)
< 1576581552 591075 :bunnyocto!b2c5e1f7@178.197.225.247 PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha
< 1576582041 253035 :bunnyocto!b2c5e1f7@178.197.225.247 PRIVMSG #esoteric :genius :D
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< 1576587155 76811 :A__!725fb9c1@114.95.185.193 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a way to make a TC proof more complicated?
< 1576587235 397331 :rain1!~debian@unaffiliated/rain1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could explain it badly
< 1576587240 832414 :rain1!~debian@unaffiliated/rain1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or do needless extra work
< 1576587252 289029 :rain1!~debian@unaffiliated/rain1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or do a much more difficult reduction than necessary
< 1576587266 172964 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :explain everything obvious as detailed as possible and skip the parts that are actually necessary to proof as obvious
< 1576587271 955851 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just take a black sharpie and "classify" random portions
< 1576587323 565453 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :what prompted the question?
< 1576587358 618956 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :everything should be made as simple as possible, and no simpler; less is more;   i posit that confusion via ambiguity can be accomplished by selective omissions
< 1576587359 757159 :A__!725fb9c1@114.95.185.193 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: I need to analyze a long text in order to get a character frequency.
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< 1576587738 65788 :A-ee!725fb9c1@114.95.185.193 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did I just see "trimp"?
< 1576587864 141453 :A-ee!725fb9c1@114.95.185.193 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No I didn't. (I feel that I am always thinking of the trim function.)
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< 1576589334 734032 :A__!725fb9c1@114.95.185.193 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/A-ee/w I only need 1 commit for a final golfing language. (Golfscript seems to have 8)
< 1576589356 442093 :A__!725fb9c1@114.95.185.193 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait... what's happening?
< 1576589363 361037 :A__!725fb9c1@114.95.185.193 PRIVMSG #esoteric :8-commits
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< 1576592266 960461 :rain1!~debian@unaffiliated/rain1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i find tensor products very hard to learn
> 1576593423 936662 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Intcode14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68002&oldid=67987 5* 03Yay 5* (+4) 10
< 1576593425 983059 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.226.193.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :rain1: those products of modules you mentioned?
< 1576593528 619150 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.226.193.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don’t know almost anything about modules in general, I read mostly about linear spaces, and of course these are much less complex
> 1576594042 209078 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Intcode14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68003&oldid=68002 5* 03Yay 5* (+396) 10added section "Advent Of Code"
> 1576594195 430585 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Intcode14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68004&oldid=68003 5* 03Yay 5* (+55) 10/* Advent of Code */  test
> 1576594389 653016 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Intcode14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68005&oldid=68004 5* 03Yay 5* (+337) 10/* Advent of Code */
> 1576594431 887598 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Intcode14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68006&oldid=68005 5* 03Yay 5* (+0) 10/* Advent of Code */ add caps
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< 1576595642 477946 :bunnyocto!b2c5e22f@178.197.226.47 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codepad.org/5ArFNbEi haha
< 1576595658 299131 :bunnyocto!b2c5e22f@178.197.226.47 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it won't produce the most efficient code but whatever works
< 1576595761 372961 :rain1!~debian@unaffiliated/rain1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :arseniiv_: yeah it's an algebra thing im trying to pick up
< 1576595778 478134 :rain1!~debian@unaffiliated/rain1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think linear spaces are the prototypical example
< 1576596105 487100 :arseniiv_!~arseniiv@136.169.201.7 NICK :arseniiv
< 1576596158 118558 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.201.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rain1: ah, are you considering tensor products of arbitrary algebraic structures?
< 1576596198 333837 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.201.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm I think I don’t know if that’s defined somewhere
< 1576596212 834540 :rain1!~debian@unaffiliated/rain1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah
< 1576596222 617134 :rain1!~debian@unaffiliated/rain1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i found a definition i like today
< 1576596237 196985 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.201.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would be nice!
< 1576596239 305002 :rain1!~debian@unaffiliated/rain1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://imgur.com/a/dOoZFKQ
< 1576596265 207201 :rain1!~debian@unaffiliated/rain1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has a defining universal property like usual in category theory
< 1576596390 487682 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.201.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, I think that definition is very close to the one for vector spaces; (i), …, (iii) and quotienting are certainly familiar
< 1576598557 253871 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i am no mathematician, but to backwards segueway to yesterday, re: roman numerals in papers, lower and upper case, is something i would do for nesting/multiple levels, e.g.   Section I subsection i subsubsection A subsubsubsection a subsubsubsubsection 1      i.e. it was useful for me simply as another layer of sections
< 1576598604 726329 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i would totally use them in that manner for any kind of paper, merely to differentiate layers
< 1576598839 669606 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.201.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone knows how hard it is to build some kind of a one-pass automaton equivalent to a bunch of sequential string replacements? Tried to google but yet to find something
< 1576600261 358791 :bunnyocto!b2c5e22f@178.197.226.47 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a what?
< 1576600284 716367 :rain1!~debian@unaffiliated/rain1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sequential string replacements, like thue
< 1576600291 416940 :rain1!~debian@unaffiliated/rain1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps
< 1576600890 868810 :bunnyocto!b2c5e22f@178.197.226.47 PRIVMSG #esoteric :are there non-sequential string replacements
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< 1576606307 737962 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.201.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rain1: yeah, just without looping back after the last replacement, and each replacement is made as many times as possible during the single pass, so for example ab → b applied to abaabaaab will give babaab
< 1576606367 145380 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.201.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :<bunnyocto> are there non-sequential string replacements => yeah, it’s possible to make certain replacements in parallel, like "abc"[a → b, b → c, c → a] = "bca"
< 1576606483 420771 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.201.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :when the substring to replace are all disjoints, this is natural, and when not, one could handle conflicts in a not too unnatural way too, e. g. picking the longest replaceable substring LTR
< 1576606494 324877 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.201.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/the substring/the substrings
< 1576606628 104930 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.201.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think my case could be answered by an algorithm to compose two string-replacing DFAs, I think it shouldn’t be hard to reinvent one, given that I use certain prefixes of a yet-to-be-replaced suffix of the string as states of such a DFA; I think that would work
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< 1576607391 497643 :bunnyocto!b2c5e22f@178.197.226.47 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I'm blind and using OCR to solve captchas
< 1576607394 457270 :bunnyocto!b2c5e22f@178.197.226.47 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Am I a robot then?
< 1576607449 953496 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :we've already evolved into machines in our minds
< 1576607482 707671 :bunnyocto!b2c5e22f@178.197.226.47 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also... wouldn't it be against antidiscrimination laws to exclude robots?
< 1576607507 345819 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :robots aren't a protected class, yet
< 1576607629 359252 :bunnyocto!b2c5e22f@178.197.226.47 PRIVMSG #esoteric :too bad.
< 1576607661 329645 :bunnyocto!b2c5e22f@178.197.226.47 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well... actually that's great :D
< 1576607718 715205 :bunnyocto!b2c5e22f@178.197.226.47 PRIVMSG #esoteric :time to implement memset
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< 1576607845 443233 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.201.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :<kmc> we've already evolved into machines in our minds => oh, Röyksopp!
< 1576607860 335597 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D
< 1576607864 31533 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :glad someone got the reference!!
< 1576607873 380590 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.201.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are many nice songs in that album
< 1576607876 740181 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1576607879 165947 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a personal favorite
< 1576607888 628280 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.201.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm I would say so maybe too
< 1576607891 102445 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact i think i'll listen to it while i drive home
< 1576607962 125466 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've heard one of the better ways to crack captchas is to set up a porn site and make people solve a captcha to get in, which is actually a captcha presented from the site you're trying to get into
< 1576607994 342704 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :either that or you pay someone in bangladesh $0.001 per captcha
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< 1576608648 602128 :bunnyocto!b2c5e22f@178.197.226.47 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeh that happens.
< 1576608657 382685 :bunnyocto!b2c5e22f@178.197.226.47 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION worked in research for security for 4 years
< 1576608672 808826 :bunnyocto!b2c5e22f@178.197.226.47 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(security & privacy to be specific)
< 1576608687 556194 :bunnyocto!b2c5e22f@178.197.226.47 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then I got schizophrenia.
< 1576608688 352504 :bunnyocto!b2c5e22f@178.197.226.47 PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha
< 1576609211 468201 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.201.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::′( hopefully it got better? (uh I don’t even know how to talk properly about such matters, sorry if I’m impolite)
< 1576609818 290376 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i also like that there's a browser plugin that just solves recaptcha via the audio challenge
< 1576609854 448289 :bunnyocto!b2c5e22f@178.197.226.47 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it got a little better.
< 1576609885 77561 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it related to your work?
< 1576610292 309857 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :security seems like a field that would both attract and encourage paranoia
< 1576610382 113799 :bunnyocto!b2c5e22f@178.197.226.47 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeh
< 1576610397 242896 :bunnyocto!b2c5e22f@178.197.226.47 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm very good at being paranoid.
> 1576611028 119027 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=68007 5* 03Hex96 5* (+174) 10Created page with "User is an esolang by [[user:hex96|hex]] which requires an esolangs account.  This is basicly chicken but you say your username instead of chicken, the commands are the same."
> 1576611053 394463 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Hex9614]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68008&oldid=67972 5* 03Hex96 5* (+11) 10/* List of esolangs */
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< 1576612637 238378 :bunnyocto!b2c5e22f@178.197.226.47 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so one thing's bothering me about medeival movies
< 1576612649 798077 :bunnyocto!b2c5e22f@178.197.226.47 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*medieval
< 1576612697 322419 :bunnyocto!b2c5e22f@178.197.226.47 PRIVMSG #esoteric :an arrow to the head is portraied as lethal
< 1576612707 359346 :bunnyocto!b2c5e22f@178.197.226.47 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*portrayed
< 1576612722 157730 :bunnyocto!b2c5e22f@178.197.226.47 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it just penetrates the tip so maybe an inch or two
< 1576612731 938428 :bunnyocto!b2c5e22f@178.197.226.47 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that'll probably just result in damage to the frontal lobe
< 1576612736 733141 :bunnyocto!b2c5e22f@178.197.226.47 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which isn't really lethal
< 1576612798 50832 :bunnyocto!b2c5e22f@178.197.226.47 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think generally the lethality of wounds is drastically exagerrated in movies.
< 1576612801 560207 :bunnyocto!b2c5e22f@178.197.226.47 PRIVMSG #esoteric :one cut and dead.
< 1576612818 20651 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i generally think the people tend to look too clean-shaven, nice haircut, etc.
< 1576613600 707047 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to figure out how to make better rules for injury in Scientific Role Playing System (SciRPS)
< 1576613639 508991 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never got struck by an arrow, nor ever shot anyone else with an arrow, so I don't know
< 1576613694 329901 :bunnyocto!b2c5e22f@178.197.226.47 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well.. a lobotomy is basically destroying someones frontal lobe...  which is sometimes lethal, sometimes the patients left severely disabled, other times it "worked" (for some fucked up definition of worked)
< 1576613720 337108 :bunnyocto!b2c5e22f@178.197.226.47 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I'd presume that a shot to the head that doesn't penetrate deeply is probably non lethal... maybe infection 
< 1576613732 599210 :bunnyocto!b2c5e22f@178.197.226.47 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you might want to discuss your ideas with a pathologist.
< 1576613743 214027 :bunnyocto!b2c5e22f@178.197.226.47 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they oughta know what is lethal on how soon
< 1576613913 321923 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, although I don't know a pathologist
< 1576613932 310119 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would hope that real scientists and real martial artists will help me to design SciRPS
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< 1576616514 658552 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-16.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, what do you want for Christmas?
< 1576616514 773902 :fungot`!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: i don't know
< 1576616566 665996 :bunnyocto!b2c5e22f@178.197.226.47 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungo, why the backtick?
< 1576616572 956973 :bunnyocto!b2c5e22f@178.197.226.47 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, why the backtick?
< 1576616573 102023 :fungot`!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :bunnyocto: i apologize.
< 1576616578 832312 :bunnyocto!b2c5e22f@178.197.226.47 PRIVMSG #esoteric :good bot.
< 1576616586 901185 :bunnyocto!b2c5e22f@178.197.226.47 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so well-mannered
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< 1576624631 994442 :fungot`!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why the backtick, indeed.
< 1576624640 245885 :fungot`!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot NICK :fungot
< 1576624723 515180 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Grumble, Inkscape's doing a really weird thing: when I have an object that has any clones selected (not sure if the clones are relevant), the UI widgets (other than the drawing canvas) stop responding, or even updating.
< 1576625282 827135 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-16.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: it's not a very old version of Inkscape, right?
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< 1576625382 328091 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not a terribly old. "Inkscape 0.92.4 (5da689c313, 2019-01-14)"
< 1576625437 278992 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I managed to make it start working again after a bit, but then I opened the "Fill and Stroke..." sidebar and it started bugging out again.
< 1576625512 510816 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It also uses 100% of CPU (of one core) as long as the object is selected.
< 1576625573 184260 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selecting one of the clones doesn't cause it to bug out, nor does selecting an object that doesn't have clones.
< 1576625587 267711 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Thing is, I wanted to copy the color of the object that has clones.)
< 1576625690 232614 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, well. Using the "pick color from image" thing worked as a workaround. But it's still a bug.
< 1576625760 211188 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/1462051 apparently.
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< 1576634317 309782 :Bowserinator_!Bowserinat@hellomouse/dev/Bowserinator NICK :Bowserinator
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< 1576649073 301635 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is the Ghostscript interpreter API reentrant?
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< 1576658088 928828 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :'Unless Ghostscript has been compiled with the GS_THREADSAFE define, only one instance at a time is supported.' -- So it depends.
< 1576658168 999684 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually... https://ghostscript.com/doc/current/API.htm#new_instance suggests that the answer is "no, but we're working on it" for practical purposes, 
< 1576658263 450966 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, but is a single instance reentrant? (For example, can the I/O implementations execute PostScript code?) (I am making it so that it doesn't, and if it does need to, the PostScript code that calls it uses "(%stdin) run".)
< 1576658304 237976 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know. I expect not.
< 1576658503 607641 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also expect not, which is acceptable even if it is capable.
> 1576660955 829682 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[071+14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68009&oldid=66679 5* 03TwilightSparkle 5* (+15) 10/* External resources */
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< 1576666988 934494 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :My uint64_t->uint64_t B-tree map is faster than Rust's BTreeMap<u64, u64> and Google's absl::btree_map<uint64_t, uint64_t>
< 1576666993 112689 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's that about?
< 1576667044 250167 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:aaaa:0:aaaa:0 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does it provide the same or an equivalent API?
< 1576667068 142681 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It proved sets, gets, deletes, and iterators that can be used for range queries.
< 1576667091 677412 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:aaaa:0:aaaa:0 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmmmm
< 1576667151 895111 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :For the most part it's a pretty naive implementation, just the first thing I wrote down that worked.
< 1576667158 832559 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It does linear search through nodes and so on.
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< 1576700395 989755 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If someone's interested in helping me with the chess engine I said here about the other day
< 1576700405 149052 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/KrzysztofSzewczyk/MANIAC-2
< 1576700410 641019 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :repo link, early review would be appreciated
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< 1576703087 72945 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, it is the variant without bishops.
< 1576704118 969709 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
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< 1576709588 876237 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: your guess for day 16 is working out
< 1576710670 521836 :imode-ruby!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been thinking a lot about context recently, and why people shy away from things like Forth and my language Mode. I'm trying to understand where the middleground is between positional and random access for data you pass around.
< 1576710725 151870 :imode-ruby!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :focusing on the context of an operation is important. I find myself looking around for context whenever I'm presented with some new code.
< 1576710760 378381 :imode-ruby!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :forth and similar languages have an implicit context: you don't have neat points in time where you can save something that came from somewhere, only to recall it again.
< 1576710785 765172 :imode-ruby!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :you instead have to rely on "juggling": placing elements in an active area and then performing operations on them.
< 1576710805 517352 :imode-ruby!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :forth is like baking a cake with only two hands instead of the support of a countertop.
< 1576710856 286202 :imode-ruby!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :you juggle things around until they're in the right position for one step, then you juggle things around for the next step, and so on. likewise for Mode, but you _really feel it_ because there's no load and store ops.
< 1576711036 690916 :imode-ruby!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :figuring out how to do things like building and using objects is difficult, for example, because of the way the juggling works: in Mode, you need the ID of the process at the head of the queue, and then the thing you want to send to it up next. this results in you enqueueing a value, swapping it, duplicating it, saving it for later, doing the send, then recalling it.
< 1576711119 690834 :imode-ruby!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :but with the right macros... this happens: https://hatebin.com/qhbjgbsysn
< 1576711243 213519 :imode-ruby!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a theory that with the right series of primitives, there will be a point where you stop seeing the queue.
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< 1576714479 525607 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.201.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :<imode-ruby> forth is like baking a cake with only two hands instead of the support of a countertop. ==> ooh a good metaphor. I do sometimes think two hands is not enough
< 1576716603 354673 :imode-ruby!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, now I have to figure out how to give a user N number of hands. :)
< 1576716789 341788 :imode-ruby!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :or give the _illusion_ that they have an N number of hands...
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< 1576717864 752606 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.201.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :imode-ruby: illusion may be as hard
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< 1576718194 277529 :imode-ruby!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :another problem Mode has is the idea of code duplication. everything's done via inline macros so if you have a chunk of code _you're going to plop a new copy down everywhere you use it_.
< 1576718249 898225 :imode-ruby!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is both good and bad... compression takes care of that in some way. still working on a compile and runtime solution to that.
< 1576718437 646703 :imode-ruby!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's almost the inverse of the inlining problem. everything you define is inlined by default. not very much of a problem but it does matter when the resulting code size is giant.
< 1576718981 999814 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( wouldn't that be the outlining problem )
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< 1576725074 225490 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, hm
< 1576725074 379257 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: somewhere between 2 and 5 years was a bit confused about the distiction because of code-as-data. see you
< 1576725093 127387 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks, that explains it
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< 1576725250 940518 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should I put parent pointers in my tree nodes?
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< 1576725916 452074 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe, but not if you want a persistent data structure
< 1576725994 373625 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The alternative (which I'm using now) is to have "cursors" into the tree contain a stack rather than just a node pointer.
< 1576726074 276948 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :next you'll be inventing zippers
< 1576726201 934885 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: can you solve a megaminx?
< 1576726202 72854 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: and not backspace... can be translated
< 1576726301 295849 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Is that like a megamix?
< 1576726318 535683 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no?
< 1576726334 884473 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, it's a puzzle thing.
< 1576726339 859043 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a Rubik's cube, but dodecahedrical.
< 1576726347 721745 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Persistent data structures are kind of a scam, I think.
< 1576726353 674255 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You rarely need them and they're very expensive.
< 1576727238 727903 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@metar ENVA
< 1576727239 76908 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :ENVA 190250Z 09005KT 9999 OVC042 M00/M01 Q1011 RMK WIND 670FT 21012KT
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< 1576727332 625006 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :moo:Moo is the sound made by a cow as it freezes.
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> 1576743228 611672 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68021&oldid=68013 5* 03Felixcesar15 5* (+16) 10/* L */
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< 1576749130 511344 :bunnyocto!b2c5e150@178.197.225.80 PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-bot can execute J?
< 1576749483 303053 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ |. 'puy'
< 1576749483 932180 :j-bot!eldis4@firefly.nu PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: yup
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< 1576749548 38325 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh, didn't know that works with a dot
< 1576749698 856828 :bunnyocto!b2c5e150@178.197.225.80 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[<. 5.3
< 1576749713 922239 :bunnyocto!b2c5e150@178.197.225.80 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[.<. 5.3
< 1576749716 225210 :bunnyocto!b2c5e150@178.197.225.80 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm.
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< 1576749740 739944 :bunnyocto!b2c5e150@178.197.225.80 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah.
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< 1576749743 65071 :bunnyocto!b2c5e150@178.197.225.80 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D
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< 1576749814 267063 :bunnyocto!b2c5e150@178.197.225.80 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that doesn't look right.
< 1576749826 181741 :bunnyocto!b2c5e150@178.197.225.80 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shouldn't that be 6.0
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< 1576750051 870698 :bunnyocto!b2c5e150@178.197.225.80 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ */ % # (1 2 3 4)
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< 1576750056 856608 :bunnyocto!b2c5e150@178.197.225.80 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::(
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< 1576750216 380259 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :bunnyocto: you're applying them monadically, not as a train
< 1576750231 223523 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ (*/ % #) 1 2 3 4
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< 1576750251 991706 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :asuming you meant product over length
< 1576750296 778284 :bunnyocto!b2c5e150@178.197.225.80 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. thanks.
< 1576750395 956589 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :monadic % is reciprocal, so that' a bit different :p
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< 1576782269 412437 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-88.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, when is the U.S. senate eating the peaches?
< 1576782269 584568 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: the syntax is much nicer than oko-in-c amirite) that was written in sicp?
< 1576782345 557148 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-88.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, is Elon Musk secretly Satoshi?
< 1576782345 706930 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: and butt-ugly :d :d :d), i configured my irc client.) in our example
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< 1576782914 302167 :bunnyocto!b2c5e00b@178.197.224.11 PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhm.
< 1576782926 585545 :bunnyocto!b2c5e00b@178.197.224.11 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought / is fold
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< 1576783956 480093 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :(because all verb application is right-to-left)
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< 1576784010 212212 :j-bot!eldis4@firefly.nu PRIVMSG #esoteric :bunnyocto: -/ |.
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< 1576784013 625854 :j-bot!eldis4@firefly.nu PRIVMSG #esoteric :bunnyocto: 2
< 1576784050 495745 :bunnyocto!b2c5e00b@178.197.224.11 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do I get -8 then?
< 1576784092 209862 :bunnyocto!b2c5e00b@178.197.224.11 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so -/ is basically foldr1
< 1576784097 559032 :bunnyocto!b2c5e00b@178.197.224.11 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's foldl1
< 1576784107 708558 :bunnyocto!b2c5e00b@178.197.224.11 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> foldl1 [1,2,3,4]
< 1576784110 920077 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : error:
< 1576784110 997373 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :     • Couldn't match expected type ‘a -> a -> a’
< 1576784111 55824 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :                   with actual type ‘[Integer]’
< 1576784126 949930 :bunnyocto!b2c5e00b@178.197.224.11 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> foldl1 (-) [1,2,3,4]
< 1576784131 201962 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : -8
< 1576784226 582536 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know of a super concise way
< 1576784269 213091 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas might have some idea
< 1576784277 427415 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :or #jsoftware in general
< 1576784407 258580 :bunnyocto!b2c5e00b@178.197.224.11 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let (-/) = foldl1 (-) in (-/) [1,2,3,4]
< 1576784409 964170 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : -8
< 1576784424 130939 :bunnyocto!b2c5e00b@178.197.224.11 PRIVMSG #esoteric :who needs J. You can just define weird operators in Haskell.
< 1576784439 234888 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :weird scenes inside the gold mine
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< 1576785039 664106 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-88.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you want to solve?
< 1576785068 389044 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-88.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ ({.-+/@{:) 1 2 3 4 
< 1576785069 36929 :j-bot!eldis4@firefly.nu PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: _3
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< 1576785087 488778 :j-bot!eldis4@firefly.nu PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: 9
< 1576785091 699955 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-88.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ ({.-+/@}.) 1 2 3 4 
< 1576785092 360357 :j-bot!eldis4@firefly.nu PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: _8
< 1576785093 612399 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-88.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, that
< 1576785177 901371 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-88.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` python3 '-cimport sys, numpy; v = numpy.float_(sys.argv[1].split()); print(v[0]-v[1:].sum())' '1 2 3 4'
< 1576785179 323982 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​-8.0
< 1576785225 329384 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-88.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` python3 '-cimport sys; v = list(map(float, sys.argv[1].split())); print(v[0]-sum(v[1:]))' '1 2 3 4'
< 1576785226 285172 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​-8.0
< 1576785659 521641 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`guile (- 1 2 3 4)
< 1576785660 434417 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​-8
< 1576785667 350700 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who needs Haskell when you've got Scheme.
< 1576785709 648775 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-88.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yeah, that's a good one
< 1576785719 89890 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-88.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway
< 1576785729 594156 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-88.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ -~/|. 1 2 3 4
< 1576785730 281410 :j-bot!eldis4@firefly.nu PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: _8
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< 1576785994 933108 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :-~/|. looks like one of those animated spinners except the backspace isn't working and someone's tried to make it a little more lively than the standard spinny -/|\ thing.
< 1576785995 243224 :bunnyocto!b2c5e00b@178.197.224.11 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thx
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< 1576802567 359706 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Heh, my Go-based Intcode interpreter (was bored) has kind of a funny (but arguably logical) undefined behavior: if you attempt to write to a parameter in immediate mode, you will actually write to the corresponding field of the instruction (and the previous value is ignored).
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< 1576807371 51673 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, huh, I've been assuming that day 9's comment on how the interpreter "should have support for large numbers" meant arbitrary-precision integers, but is that actually the case? The two examples are just 50-ish bit values.
< 1576807425 64675 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :50-ish bits is considered arbitrary-precision some places :)
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< 1576807762 484959 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think it's necessarily a coincidence that double-precision floats can represent all integers exactly between -2^53 and +2^53.
< 1576807779 592444 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :This might've been just a concession to make life easier for JS people and suchlike.
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< 1576809849 447622 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I think I read VAX does that too. Also it is defined to do that in a "video instruction set" I have invented. However, 6502 doesn't; the instructions that would write to immediates (all unofficial) instead read from (and ignore) the value.
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< 1576812087 440269 :tswett[m]!tswettmatr@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-cnmuwprjzgxupwct PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: What's the potentially-a-coincidence that that isn't?
< 1576812092 636415 :tswett[m]!tswettmatr@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-cnmuwprjzgxupwct PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like... what does that coincide with?
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< 1576815152 367991 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Re: Intcode, that seems to be the most reasonable behavior to me, if one were to define it.
< 1576815294 697829 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh and I have not really thought about how big the numbers are supposed to be. The specification said "large" which I interpreted as "unbounded" as well, but which is woefully imprecise.
< 1576815349 937948 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The esowiki page reflects my interpretation... because I wrote that part.)
< 1576815562 347036 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe the page should have a disclaimer that it's not an official specification ;)
< 1576817308 155072 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :In Glulx, writing to any nonzero immediate is illegal.
< 1576817361 727796 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(If you try to write to an immediate zero operand, then the value is discarded.)
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< 1576819635 779733 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps I should add support for separations into TeXnicard, in order to implement such thing as the shiny mark on Magic: the Gathering cards. The next consideration is then how to do the output format with such thing.
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< 1576840219 841399 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, is Sgeolang still Rust? No way.
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> 1576841391 734155 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07(HA)pple waITING14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68073&oldid=68072 5* 03DmilkaSTD 5* (-2) 10
> 1576841609 437707 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07(HA)pple waITING14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68074&oldid=68073 5* 03DmilkaSTD 5* (+53) 10
> 1576841628 106103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07(HA)pple waITING14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68075&oldid=68074 5* 03DmilkaSTD 5* (-11) 10
> 1576842795 123770 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07(HA)pple waITING14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68076&oldid=68075 5* 03DmilkaSTD 5* (+408) 10
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< 1576844901 674054 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett[m]: The not-a-coincidence was the fact that the two examples of "large numbers" in Intcode-related AoC problem statements (2^50, and approximately 1.083*2^50) are quite close but still under the limit of representable integers in IEEE 754 binary64 format (2^53), which I speculate is to make it easier to build Intcode implementations on top of languages that only have access to numbers like that.
< 1576844966 650914 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that makes sense
< 1576852208 155758 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phew, breadth first search did not explode for part 2 :)
< 1576852273 599946 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Today, 20th of December. Yesterday was relatively easy, I thought.)
< 1576852348 205228 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is borne out by the statistics, I guess... yesterday had twice as many solvers as the day before that.
< 1576852626 642943 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know how sometimes people use their children as excuse to buy toys or other items for themselves, saying that it's for their children?
< 1576852652 626397 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I succeeded to buy a Christmas present for my brother's kids that the parents won't be able to use
< 1576852673 239668 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a children size headphone, and it's built in such a way that it's really impossible to use with an adult size head
< 1576852695 603909 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't even tell what it sounds like, because I can't put it close to my ears without breaking it
< 1576852708 312052 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can at least hear sounds coming out of it when I turn up the volume
< 1576852725 711801 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I realize that this may be a feature from the vendor's perspective
< 1576852749 59569 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :since if it sounds really cheap, the customers won't be able to tell
< 1576852788 769597 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the minus side, I bought two, and one of them is broken. I'll have to return that one.
< 1576852801 925662 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the plus side, the other one is not broken
< 1576852830 378822 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1576853007 757805 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.14.62.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :<wib_jonas> you know how sometimes people use their children as excuse to buy toys or other items for themselves, saying that it's for their children? => haha I hoped that’s more of a joke when read it somewhere, but on the other hand it seems pretty natural, for better or for worse. I mean, no person uses all their belongings all the time, children included, so there may be valid cases of such er… abuse, if the parent doesn’t mon
< 1576853007 875131 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.14.62.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :opolize. Though I think that’s too ideal a scenario
< 1576853027 385206 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds
< 1576853029 238598 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 NICK :Lord_of_Life
< 1576853070 69202 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also bought a portable music player, which I'm now testing -- using different earbuds
< 1576853096 116401 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :DARN IT
< 1576853124 464526 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this one has the same bug as my mobile phone
< 1576853159 535899 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not willing to sort the tracks in any way, neither by filename nor by track number, so I have to make sure that the directory is sorted, which is difficult because typical file system interfaces don't care about that
< 1576853293 57652 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :seriously, people, if you have a processor that can decode mp3s, please put in a fucking routine that can sort filenames
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< 1576854859 58629 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.14.62.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :<wib_jonas> seriously, people, if you have a processor that can decode mp3s, please put in a fucking routine that can sort filenames => unfortunate :( I have almost the same complaint: often there are no shuffle mode, and everything plays in the exact same order each time you switch the thing on. Makes very boring searching for something appropriate for this or that moment
< 1576854961 406097 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: I agree that 19th was surprisingly easy. Maybe it was just checking that people's Intcode interpreters were functional. I had a look at the program, and while I didn't bother to trace it fully, it uses the relative mode heavily. Although I guess Intcode is so simple, it's hard to make bugs that wouldn't have failed the earlier tests.
< 1576856356 572476 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1576856906 460224 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently my VPS provider has killed my bot
< 1576856925 774744 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for no reason really, and I suppose unintentionally
< 1576857753 331290 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kspalaiologos: could it just be a reboot?
< 1576857762 601062 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I doubt
< 1576857772 152088 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because other services I ran there are running
< 1576857777 439682 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they would die if this was a reboot
< 1576857783 869992 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no idea really, I'd have to check logs
< 1576857790 700789 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. What about OOM, hmm. Ah, not my problem.
< 1576857816 467536 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it can't be oom
< 1576857817 932857 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :c'mon
< 1576857820 656102 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2019-12-17 08:57:39 <b_jonas> zzo38: Empathic Healer looks interesting
< 1576857824 18073 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is the last message it logged
< 1576857908 210927 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. That bot.
< 1576858053 845581 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :There was a netsplit. Maybe the server closed the connection? Does it reconnect?
< 1576858197 203974 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :netsplit
< 1576858197 778247 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well
< 1576858208 518782 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is explaining the accident
< 1576858222 816763 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just a simple 50-line perl bot
< 1576858232 875625 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wouldn't expect it to be able to recover off a netsplit really
< 1576858259 842497 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that the bot with fascinating escaping issues?
< 1576858280 319672 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: no, this is the logging bot. https://esolangs.org/logs/2019-12-17.html#leb is where it left
< 1576858304 932580 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: and the github link in the topic is where it logs to
< 1576858309 203527 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah
< 1576858310 294435 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(when it's around)
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< 1576873418 541280 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly, yeah, this one
< 1576873429 476613 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas, that discovery was genius really
< 1576873437 554852 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would have never thought about that
< 1576873451 105093 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't get to rewriting the bot though yet :p
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< 1576873874 785114 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-224.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kspalaiologos: did you burn the source code yet?
< 1576873966 568763 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-224.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kspalaiologos: could it be that rather than the VPS killing it, the IRC server closed the connection to your bot? it sometimes does that
< 1576874000 159149 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-224.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? logs
< 1576874001 954163 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#esoteric channel logs: https://esolangs.org/logs/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ https://github.com/KrzysztofSzewczyk/esologs/
< 1576874063 63573 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-224.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suspect it was the server
< 1576874415 640188 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tomorrow is Yule (if you are in the northern hemisphere), and then two days later is Hanukkah, and then two more days later is Christmas. Happy Yule/Hanukkah/Christmas
< 1576874423 673775 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: same to you!
< 1576874454 732894 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: some friends of mine celebrate the Solstice, or Isaac Newton's birthday on Dec 25
< 1576874505 398163 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, yes it is Isaac Newton's birthday on Dec 25 too (I think Stallman refers to this as "Gravmas")
< 1576874517 752864 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :celebrating Newton's birthday as a secular/atheist holiday is somewhat ironic because Newton was an occult Christian and alchemist
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< 1576874576 533238 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but it is still his birthday. (It wasn't Jesus's birthday on Dec 25, even though Jesus's birthday is still celebrated on that day.)
< 1576874601 402476 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah
< 1576874607 773955 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a repurposed pagan holiday
< 1576874691 278141 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-224.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll be celebrating pine holiday with my family. I'm traveling the day after tomorrow.
< 1576874983 365521 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't have plans for christmas as such
< 1576875017 303473 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :on sunday (the 22nd) I'm celebrating a personal milestone (2 years on HRT!) with my girlfriend and wife
< 1576875025 478935 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there will be chinese food and cake.
< 1576875035 191007 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the 24th I'm going to gf's friend's birthday party
< 1576875077 487167 :MDude!~MDude@97-127-171-136.cdrr.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1576875082 721602 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-224.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is my plan for a whole week, so it's longer than christmas
< 1576875352 288032 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-224.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, what is the ranking of swords in SNES Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past from worst to best?
< 1576875352 509852 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: oh right, those would be _that_ surprising as murder suspects: theo is certainly freaky enough as it is
< 1576876514 876066 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :IIRC   non magical/red/magically forged
< 1576876552 602168 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coincidentally, i believe you can beat it without getting the greatest armor, because i thought blue was more stylish
< 1576876566 68906 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just dont open that chest
< 1576876646 551187 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well blue armor + gold shield anyways, without gold shield i may have chosen otherwise
< 1576876779 941037 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-224.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kingoffrance: I asked about swords, not armor
< 1576876950 604541 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :arms are arms :/         i dont think player has a fashionable choice with swords :/
< 1576876995 594357 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the best you can do is color coordinate around the sword
< 1576877177 259983 :shikhout!~shikhin@nat-tvwna-outside-visitornet2-66-180-180-101.princeton.org JOIN :#esoteric
< 1576877229 395671 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know much of that games, how the rules for the attacks work. What I know with GURPS, different swords (and other types of unpowered melee weapons) have differnt amount of damage, type of damage, reach, price, mass, defense, options, etc. Also some require two hands (although if your character has four hands, then maybe you can use two such two-handed weapons)
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< 1576896239 156370 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 NICK :Lord_of_Life
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< 1576904237 307810 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What I would want to have is setjmp/longjmp with the possibility to define a cleanup step which is executed if you longjmp past there. This would make a possibility of many kind of libraries better, I think.
< 1576904270 516662 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Did you see Per Vognsen's ideas about that?
< 1576904316 432921 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I did not see that.
< 1576904372 256547 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder whether I can find it.
< 1576904550 659463 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you remember what some of the ideas are? Is it like what I wrote?
< 1576904553 653492 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I think he mostly discusses it in video form unfortunately.
< 1576904557 941180 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2G2wbOQQjU&t=3940
< 1576904719 388383 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the code is also online.
< 1576904918 680347 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, more preamble than I remembered.
< 1576908384 577881 :zappascout!9df5b953@157.245.185.83 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1576911451 32961 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Do you like this?
< 1576911526 332642 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't look
< 1576911605 899617 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh no.
< 1576911611 642830 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think there's a small example here: https://github.com/pervognsen/bitwise/blob/master/ion/test1/test1.ion#L1241
< 1576911975 400674 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK
< 1576912169 754581 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That isn't quite an explanation of it
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< 1576912296 475454 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a document?
< 1576912452 870179 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I think there's only a video.
< 1576912460 374143 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could watch that.
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> 1576913443 298938 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Cell14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68077&oldid=67507 5* 03OsmineYT 5* (+91) 10
> 1576913458 186080 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Cell14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68078&oldid=68077 5* 03OsmineYT 5* (+30) 10
< 1576913670 980639 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: can you count unrooted, unordered trees?
< 1576913671 100186 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: maybe you should
> 1576913684 535341 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:OsmineYT14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68079&oldid=67490 5* 03OsmineYT 5* (+16) 10
> 1576913816 770739 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Cell14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68080&oldid=67506 5* 03OsmineYT 5* (+198) 10
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< 1576917349 613665 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: turns out I actually can count those after all... but it's slightly tricky to get right
< 1576917349 844147 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: i'm not getting it. they're building o(n4) solutions and wondering why the hell is relative addressing of the call sites, the calls are trapped and if they do work......
> 1576918834 815052 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Salary program14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68084&oldid=66262 5* 03YamTokTpaFa 5* (-23) 10pls be kind to the wiki syntax more
> 1576919427 222312 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Truth-machine14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68085&oldid=67863 5* 03YamTokTpaFa 5* (+56) 10/* Pxem */
> 1576919720 416737 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:ASCII art/mandelbrot14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=68086 5* 03YamTokTpaFa 5* (+271) 10Created page with "== So, what is the article supposed to explain? == Thought this article has no contents other than the ascii art. I have no ideas what the original editor wanted to tell us. -..."
> 1576919729 960202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07W (A)14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68087&oldid=67512 5* 03A 5* (+35) 10/* Project Euler 1 */
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< 1576929330 53130 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sometimes the wiki makes me sad. https://esolangs.org/wiki/ASCII_art-
< 1576929531 320401 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, what a language.
< 1576929557 543242 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :innov... nah I can't make myself type that.
< 1576929617 398844 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know what's innovative? My completely standard B+ tree mapping uint64_t keys to uint64_t values.
< 1576929631 589079 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's faster than every ordered data structure I've found.
< 1576929699 594249 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where can I find reasonable ones?
< 1576929934 151518 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever happened to Judy arrays?
< 1576929982 525464 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, good question.
< 1576930041 889125 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember a short hype, then nothing. And apparently that's how it played out. But I don't know why.
< 1576930069 499707 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://rusty.ozlabs.org/?p=153 was an interesting (though probably outdated) read at least
< 1576930124 702862 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, Judy isn't ordered, is it?
< 1576930135 713205 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-180-83.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds good to optimize for cache line usage, but B+ trees can do that too and Judy arrays seem to be a lot more complicated
< 1576930372 150551 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was going to add Judy to my benchmark but the API looks way too complicated.
< 1576930379 573146 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: my understanding was that it is ordered (it's supposed to be a radix tree with various specializations for nodes of different sizes, and radix trees are ordered; they tend to not store full keys in internal nodes though). maybe I understood wrong.
< 1576930398 541901 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, hmm, it is ordered.
< 1576930412 465255 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I saw something about hashing that confused me.
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< 1576930625 322425 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, I'll try it.
> 1576930657 125512 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07W (A)14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68088&oldid=68087 5* 03A 5* (-13) 10/* An Incompatible implementation */
> 1576930697 939316 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07W (A)14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68089&oldid=68088 5* 03A 5* (+54) 10/* Project Euler 1 */
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> 1576930799 371296 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07W (A)14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68091&oldid=68090 5* 03A 5* (+127) 10/* An example */
> 1576930975 105598 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07W (A)14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68092&oldid=68091 5* 03A 5* (+9) 10/* Quine */
< 1576931531 17344 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, I haven't figured out the range API, but it's already slower on point lookups.
< 1576931710 851957 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I added range queries and it's really slow at them.
< 1576932362 634656 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I measured wrong. It's OK on point lookups, though a lot slower than a regular hash table.
< 1576932456 803648 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-180-83.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :how big is the data set here?
< 1576932538 403026 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm testing with https://github.com/petersn/btreetests
< 1576932812 345406 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-180-83.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like that only goes up to 1 million entries? that would probably fit in L2 (but at least it's not small enough to fit in L1)
< 1576932873 569420 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it was shortened from 10M.
< 1576932996 575057 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-180-83.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe Judy starts helping when you no longer fit in cache (it could of course never be faster, but since the point to the extra complexity is doing more work to read fewer cache lines...)
< 1576933207 790621 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: The Intcode part of these every-odd-day puzzles is getting less and less relevant. I guess it's just a handy way to obfuscate the answer, to offload the actual solution validation from the puzzle site to the user.
> 1576933435 725365 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Intcode14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68093&oldid=68028 5* 03Fizzie 5* (+95) 10Add day 21.
< 1576933618 256612 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good call on the bigger test. I'm doing even better than all competitors on this one.
< 1576933636 243605 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course maybe it's not that realistic.
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< 1576934186 158348 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Yeah (though I have not looked at today's task(s))
< 1576934239 64571 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I wonder how many people have solved problems by reverse engineering some code rather than interacting with it.
< 1576934262 718882 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(So far interaction has always seemed easier. Though I was tempted for a moment with the breakout task.)
< 1576934356 513987 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :In fact I've only solved one task manually so far, namely the compression from day 17, part two.
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< 1576935280 730376 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wondered about that too. Even counting today, it's still been easier to solve it the presumably-intended way. Actually, today is a little bit similar to day 17 part 2 (though not that much).
< 1576935348 814038 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :vaguely relatedly, I found https://projecteuler.net/problem=689 quite annoying.
< 1576935423 298576 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I just don't like numerical stuff very much. Though somehow I managed to get it right on the first try.)
< 1576935491 161399 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(First *submitted* try that is. Not the first attempt to get a value.)
< 1576935837 690811 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, going meta.
< 1576935926 220240 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, I was doing Project Euler for a bit, in sequential order, but I think I stopped way before 689.
< 1576935955 696967 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, looks like I did just the first 100.
< 1576936373 522297 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha: 1.hs: Prelude.chr: bad argument: <nnnnnn>
< 1576936469 354161 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the program accidently printed the answer in an error message)
< 1576936610 178538 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-179.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: yes, you can do that deliberately:
< 1576936616 184626 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-179.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`perl -e '40*18'
< 1576936617 949186 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1576936620 624905 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-179.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`perl -we '40*18'
< 1576936621 402423 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :Useless use of a constant ("40*18") in void context at -e line 1.
< 1576936626 287785 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-179.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, the w switch is essential for that
< 1576936636 790128 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-179.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm
< 1576936642 774456 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-179.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't print the answer? they changed that
< 1576936660 690184 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-179.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :perl 5.24 printed the product in the warning message
< 1576936685 707781 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-179.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn, this is lost functionality
< 1576936788 366603 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: hmm that was surprisingly easy.
< 1576936853 811018 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :And that adds two more manually solved tasks.
< 1576936991 61357 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder how big the luck factor is.
< 1576937493 834049 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-179.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, how big is the luck factor?
< 1576937494 57791 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: not sure how to loop? ( i mean fnord' as... well, except for the nice model, eh?), here is a nice way for a long time
< 1576937657 385309 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-179.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: so intcode is used sort of like UM-32?
< 1576937873 483601 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes.
> 1576938118 597817 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:B jonas14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68094&oldid=67538 5* 03B jonas 5* (+82) 10
> 1576938122 978847 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Intcode14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68095&oldid=68093 5* 03B jonas 5* (+149) 10
> 1576938158 817085 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07UM-3214]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68096&oldid=39232 5* 03B jonas 5* (+159) 10
> 1576938176 401378 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Intcode14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68097&oldid=68095 5* 03B jonas 5* (+9) 10see UM-32
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< 1576951925 77088 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :came upon an interesting idea yesterday: the use of the tail of the queue to act as long-term scratch memory, with the head being used as short-term scratch memory.
< 1576951956 987411 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :with the aid of the `last` operator, you can recall an item from the tail of the queue to the head. if this were on a tape, this would be a move left.
< 1576951996 491634 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you move left N times, duplicate and carry your item right N times, that's a load from RAM.
< 1576952032 418373 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :same for storing, you just carry the item left N times, drop whatever's there, then move right N times.
< 1576952051 652832 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :allocation of scratch space is just a repeated enqueueing of zeroes.
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< 1576952893 593436 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still wonder if `[]01` is enough for turing completeness. part of me thinks it's possible but the end result is non-recognizable. `[]01$` is a candidate. `[]01<>` is boolfuck with dynamically resizable tape.
< 1576959378 567871 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don
< 1576959382 112757 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :'t seem to understand
< 1576959386 830963 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What would 0 and 1 do?
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< 1576968610 489050 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.14.62.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :<imode> part of me thinks it's possible but the end result is non-recognizable. => have you tried to find a counter-example, like how logicians search for a model where A and ¬B are both true to show that one can’t prove B from A? In this case B is something TC and A is this reduced language
< 1576968869 930464 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.14.62.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm I don’t know how to make this analogy rigorous but I believe it can be made and was even used by someone at some time — it seems so natural to try…
< 1576969717 868765 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-179.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :look, an em-dash
< 1576969833 798797 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :arseniiv: oerjan iirc said it could be used like bitwise cyclic tag.
< 1576969875 729333 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.14.62.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: – − ‒, all different!
< 1576969950 431520 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.14.62.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :imode: mmhm… (not that I’m sufficiently familiar with cyclic tag systems, but interesting!)
< 1576970027 616539 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not either.
< 1576970045 945958 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I'm okay with the possibility of a `[]01$` or a `[]01<>` instruction set.
< 1576970290 189262 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :I really need to get Mode up to a git repo lmao.
< 1576970797 735763 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.14.62.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D
< 1576970944 483331 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's an ugly mix of C and Python though.
< 1576971305 717184 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9960:35:b10f:8f52:c4e3:8509 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds
< 1576971604 908872 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.14.62.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :imode: oh, do you call C from Python or Python from C or both?
< 1576971643 860950 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.14.62.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :I’m not yet familiar how to do either. I only ever used Lua bindings for Delphi very very long ago
< 1576971692 859507 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.14.62.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :(maybe for C# to but probably I just downloaded them and left them lay still)
< 1576971703 802395 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a Python preprocessor that generates an array of function pointers. this array of function pointers gets inserted via an #include into a barebones interpreter.
< 1576971744 897975 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :388 lines of C.
< 1576971752 271888 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :95 lines of Python..
< 1576971976 344255 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.14.62.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, simple
< 1576972109 383872 :Cale!~cale@2607:fea8:9960:35:fd83:1f5b:b5fb:7c4a JOIN :#esoteric
< 1576972353 416731 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-179.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :some years ago someone said in the channel that the "ff" in the name of the program "ffmpeg" stands for "fast forward"
< 1576972380 334433 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-179.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently ffmpeg doesn't think so, because if you run it without arguments, it prints this line among others:
< 1576972388 291674 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-179.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Hyper fast Audio and Video encoder"
< 1576972394 196304 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-179.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so "ff" stands for "Hyper fast"
< 1576972412 443213 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I always thought it derived from FFT.
< 1576972428 990408 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I assumed that, never gave it much thought.
< 1576973037 389081 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.14.62.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :ffffffast
< 1576973080 797381 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.14.62.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :. . . . . sssso ffffast iiiit hhhas aaaan aaaafterimage
< 1576973082 53341 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's many f-words.
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< 1576974201 732595 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-179.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: hmm, that would make the first F stand for "fast" rather than the second
< 1576974250 93529 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-179.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: the complication is that zzo38 has some pixel image processing utilities that are also named "ff", but they're named of "Farbfeld", which is an entirely logical name for processing pixel images
< 1576974275 620160 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-179.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :only ffmpeg also mostly processes pixel images and videos made of them, though it also processes audio
< 1576974280 815640 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-179.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm encoding audio using it right now)
< 1576974382 951024 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait that's another Fabrice Bellard child?
< 1576974387 887330 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :yup.
< 1576974477 781108 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :So https://ffmpeg.org/pipermail/ffmpeg-devel/2006-February/010315.html is to be taken as gospel.
< 1576974525 340722 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And that also kind of make sense... skipping forward in a video stream isn't trivial after all.)
< 1576974531 359946 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :*makes
< 1576975375 757139 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyways the names of the Farbfeld Utilities programs do not match those of FFmpeg, I think
< 1576975424 361835 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-179.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: yeah. it's not too hard, I think ffmpeg only has three executable names: ffmpeg, ffprobe, ffplay
< 1576975444 314708 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-179.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(plus there's three shadow copies in the old fork that is IIRC called avutils, but those don't start with ff)
< 1576975462 558300 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-179.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: ok, so the "fast forward" was right
< 1576975473 884531 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-179.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder why they changed it to the euphemistic "hyper fast" then
< 1576976990 268856 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The web page for 3rd Party Applications for Icecast lists some media players that can play back Icecast streams, although Firefox also plays back Icecast streams just fine, and piping curl to SoX also works fine for playing back Icecast streams.
< 1576977681 172769 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell arseniiv https://git.imode.tech/?p=mode;a=summary
< 1576977681 220853 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
> 1576979408 710975 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07W (A)14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68098&oldid=68092 5* 03A 5* (-13) 10
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< 1576993082 508706 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell imode yes []01 is TC, i explained how to compile a version of BCT that halts if it gets a 0 as data at a particular step in the program. (showing that that is as TC as ordinary BCT is left as an exercise hth)
< 1576993082 589069 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1576993161 684428 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION may not have remembered to explain that that was what he was explaining.
< 1576993178 55318 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, sorry, I did not understand what you meant. :(
< 1576993193 344144 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that familiar with BCT either.
< 1576993521 483395 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :0 is a command that deletes from the queue. 10 is a command that appends a 0 if the head of the queue is 1, and 11 appends a 1 similarly.
< 1576993578 732466 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although for this compilation you really want whole productions i.e. "cyclic tag", without bitwise.
< 1576993717 107256 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you have a list of bit strings that you cycle through: pop a data bit from the queue, if it was 1 append the current string.
< 1576993913 287233 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :if CT data bits are reencoded as 0 -> 0, 1 -> 10, then you reencode each string in the cycle in the same way and enclose it in brackets
< 1576993986 635789 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then you put brackets around the whole list. this gives a different halting condition from ordinary CT, but one that should be as TC.
< 1576994028 475281 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :jeeesus.
< 1576994051 397929 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :I apologize that my head really isn't in the right spot right now (a little intoxicated)
< 1576994109 32914 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok i'm tired myself
< 1576994144 58650 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's fascinating, though... can I pick your brain about this later?
< 1576994178 813857 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure
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< 1577001564 576942 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. "The password of the month is present." ... maybe next year.
< 1577001689 930712 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(But it only makes sense for December)
< 1577002107 212163 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Man, why are my trees so fast?
< 1577002135 281678 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are there any good libraries for ordered u64->u64 key-value maps I should be comparing to?
< 1577002140 838032 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel like this should be a standard thing.
< 1577002334 638034 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh I'm done counting trees for the time being.
< 1577002417 689680 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :in other news, https://twitter.com/WitzigWeil/status/1208441458426044422
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< 1577005301 150760 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, today's AoC part 2 was hard?!
< 1577005389 570746 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(For once I sucessfully extrapolated what part 2 would be like from part 1 and wrote my code accordingly.)
< 1577005726 860881 :olsner!~salparot@c80-217-180-83.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: out of curiosity, how bad is std::map in comparison?
< 1577005821 52878 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quite bad.
< 1577005879 469705 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here are some old numbers: https://slbkbs.org/tmp/btree/ordered.txt
< 1577005900 142685 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :My implementation improved since then (unless I've just added a regression).
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< 1577007110 30203 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I
< 1577007113 31659 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ve never been so scared
< 1577007115 703509 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :to run my code
< 1577007123 315776 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like in case of this engine
< 1577007131 239113 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because I put around four days in it, without prior testing
< 1577007635 683640 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Imagine working in chemistry, having spent days assembling a complex reactor, and switching it on for the first time.
< 1577007840 35808 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I don't. I've read a few stories.)
< 1577009272 31048 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't actually implemented the engine
< 1577009273 846585 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh
< 1577009354 229101 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's just settle on srand(NULL) and rand() lol
< 1577009364 33960 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(so it's predictable yet pretty random at first)
< 1577009397 380858 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hate this code though
< 1577009402 538856 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's very slow and underperformant
< 1577009410 145715 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it could be made way faster it is currently
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< 1577031107 540282 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Another day with quite the difference between part 1 and part 2.
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< 1577038011 935137 :arseniiv_!~arseniiv@95.105.11.215.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you think, is unit4 eso? And int4?
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< 1577056310 723552 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: The dramatic difference between the AoC parts surprised me. I mean the top 100 goes up to 2h, that's amazing. Though I wonder how much impact the upcoming holidays have.
< 1577057365 524196 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Or maybe not the difference so much as the fact that part 2 seems to stump so many people.
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< 1577064789 863306 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume a lot of people just did the straight-forward solution to part 1 (I know I did), which isn't very useful as a starting point for part 2, unlike on many other days.
< 1577064926 395708 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How to allow commands given to "at" to play sounds in Linux?
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> 1577093025 963149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07PINAPL14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=68115 5* 03Bunnyocto 5* (+223) 10Created page with "PINAPL is an abbrevation for '''P'''INAPL '''I'''s '''N'''ot '''A''' '''P'''rogramming '''L'''anguage. PINAPL is pronounced like pineapple.  It is an attempt at a collaborativ..."
> 1577093439 810615 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Rotary Quine14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=68116 5* 03Bunnyocto 5* (+453) 10Created page with "A rotary quine is a quine that is a quine under all rotations. For example if the program 'ABCD' where a quine in some language X then for it to be a rotary quine the programs..."
< 1577093615 456092 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that seems like an odd definition
< 1577093655 64398 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, almost no language will do that, but on the other hand it restricts the possible permutations to only rotationary ones
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> 1577094286 200204 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07PINAPL14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68118&oldid=68117 5* 03Bunnyocto 5* (+92) 10/* Integers */
< 1577094344 553182 :bunnyocto!b2c5e40b@178.197.228.11 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well. trivially some languages which output the number 555 for the code 555
< 1577094349 724621 :bunnyocto!b2c5e40b@178.197.228.11 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then 555 would be a rotary quine
< 1577094359 518259 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Programs with only one character don't have rotations and are thus never rotary quines." Is that right? I wouldn't think so.
< 1577094360 561908 :bunnyocto!b2c5e40b@178.197.228.11 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is kinda boring so hm.
< 1577094383 27273 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: i agree
< 1577094395 450883 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :bunnyocto: which is also a permutation quine, though
> 1577094410 102048 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Rotary Quine14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68119&oldid=68116 5* 03Bunnyocto 5* (+187) 10
< 1577094410 299466 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only thing that comes to my mind are languages wrapping around like befunge
< 1577094433 225661 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would be interested in a language that does not wrap around line ends and has a non-trivial rotary quine
< 1577094456 259454 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"All of its rotations" is vacuous if it doesn't have rotations (or does it count itself as a rotation? it doesn't matter if it does or not), so "all of its rotations are quines" would be true, I think.
> 1577094545 528718 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Rotary Quine14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68120&oldid=68119 5* 03Bunnyocto 5* (+50) 10
< 1577094563 841242 :bunnyocto!b2c5e40b@178.197.228.11 PRIVMSG #esoteric :might not be technically correct language but I guess the meaning behind it should be clear.
< 1577094633 545556 :bunnyocto!b2c5e40b@178.197.228.11 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could obviosuly trivially create languages that have such quines
< 1577094640 479362 :bunnyocto!b2c5e40b@178.197.228.11 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess.
< 1577094657 126733 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well yeah, HQ9
< 1577094667 477358 :bunnyocto!b2c5e40b@178.197.228.11 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why?
< 1577094686 341857 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because Q is defined to be a quine in HQ9?
< 1577094702 502172 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, you mean to explicitly disallow other commands
< 1577094724 220972 :bunnyocto!b2c5e40b@178.197.228.11 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah but the program Q would be only one character
< 1577094729 149756 :bunnyocto!b2c5e40b@178.197.228.11 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thus no rotations
< 1577094733 590767 :bunnyocto!b2c5e40b@178.197.228.11 PRIVMSG #esoteric :QQ would work
< 1577094737 820252 :bunnyocto!b2c5e40b@178.197.228.11 PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless that prints the source code twice
< 1577094743 347277 :bunnyocto!b2c5e40b@178.197.228.11 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in which case it wouldn't be a quine
< 1577094747 132574 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, there is one rotation, id
< 1577094749 329185 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, although HQ9+ also has a + command, so you can have Q+ or +Q
< 1577094775 461960 :bunnyocto!b2c5e40b@178.197.228.11 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would work yep
< 1577094798 978632 :bunnyocto!b2c5e40b@178.197.228.11 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Q+ would be a rotary quine in HQ9+
< 1577094854 242508 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :bunnyocto: if you don't include id as a rotation than you could have a string that will be a quine in all but one rotation
< 1577094863 458709 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I fail to see this being intended
< 1577094890 234950 :bunnyocto!b2c5e40b@178.197.228.11 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no.
< 1577094891 264913 :bunnyocto!b2c5e40b@178.197.228.11 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok
< 1577094912 889934 :bunnyocto!b2c5e40b@178.197.228.11 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a rotary quine is a quine under all rotations
< 1577094913 63550 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :therefore, Q does have a rotation, namely id
< 1577094915 982535 :bunnyocto!b2c5e40b@178.197.228.11 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it must be a quine
< 1577094921 820943 :bunnyocto!b2c5e40b@178.197.228.11 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and all rotations must be a quine
< 1577095084 341938 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I described why it doesn't matter if you include id as a rotation or not. It already says "A rotary quine is a quine that is a quine under all rotations."
< 1577095127 141731 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, any predicate over the elements of an empty set is true
> 1577095162 759367 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Rotary Quine14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68121&oldid=68120 5* 03Bunnyocto 5* (-306) 10is this more formal?
< 1577095167 269616 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :every elephant in this room is pink
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> 1577097583 51790 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07PINAPL14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68125&oldid=68124 5* 03Bunnyocto 5* (-3) 10/* Example */
> 1577097863 663509 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07PINAPL14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68126&oldid=68125 5* 03Bunnyocto 5* (+1) 10/* Example */
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< 1577115570 760705 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Heh, I wonder if today will be a little unfriendly for your pure Intcode approach.
< 1577115718 721435 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :haven't looked
< 1577115759 666983 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ask me tomorrow :)
< 1577115860 78657 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:aaaa:0:aaaa:0 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, I haven't touched AoC very much since like the 9th but I wonder if mine'll handle it?
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< 1577134007 779334 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do they call the letters of alphabets named in Old English?
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< 1577134658 890794 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if what some people claim is true that "letters" were leaf/plant-based, then saxifrage would be my wild and inaccurate speculation
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> 1577150022 919494 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07TPLHBPTBOTEW14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68127&oldid=65433 5* 03Gamer 5* (-14) 10
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> 1577150242 233575 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Category:Pseudonatural14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68129&oldid=68128 5* 03Gamer 5* (+0) 10changed "A Pseudonatural language" to "A pseudonatural language"
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< 1577160357 239062 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: It turned out to be terribly unfriendly... took me 2 hours to resolve the knot-tying exercise.
< 1577160470 924174 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It really should be faster. But I made many stupid mistakes. It's all way too subtle.)
> 1577162743 871687 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03BrainF99 5*  10New user account
< 1577163457 223329 :tswett[m]!tswettmatr@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-ipmhwqeekqpxnnrx PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, anyone want to hire me? I have five years of professional experience as a software developer, and I'm really, really, really good at math. I'm not interested in software development positions. I'm looking for a salary around $60k.
< 1577163557 691329 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :what position are you looking for exactly.
< 1577163599 751176 :tswett[m]!tswettmatr@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-ipmhwqeekqpxnnrx PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have an exact position in mind.
< 1577163611 136872 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, "not interested" will be the only thing anybody reads in there.
< 1577163632 713914 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unfortunately.
< 1577163668 367065 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unfortunately we live in a world where people expect you to know what you want :-/
< 1577163677 635033 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you don't know what you want apply to a FAANG.
< 1577163742 215033 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, what if your ethics aren't flexible enough for that?
< 1577163783 30472 :tswett[m]!tswettmatr@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-ipmhwqeekqpxnnrx PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: That makes sense.
< 1577163797 508975 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think your average systems engineering job requires ethics that can bend over backwards
< 1577163818 756835 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :I work at Amazon. you'd be surprised how mundane this job actually is from every standpoint. we just help people buy ebooks.
< 1577163840 478254 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm giving up on the software industry
< 1577163844 829530 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i'm going to become a mushroom farmer
< 1577163852 908565 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :good choice.
< 1577163860 531670 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :we'll see
< 1577163894 345569 :tswett[m]!tswettmatr@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-ipmhwqeekqpxnnrx PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I like that idea.
< 1577163896 740210 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :A hacker's dream, build something from wood... simple and sturdy.
< 1577163915 45195 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(That's based on a pun that works much better in german.)
< 1577163930 636195 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :build your own computing ecosystem.
< 1577163983 934344 :tswett[m]!tswettmatr@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-ipmhwqeekqpxnnrx PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like that idea too.
< 1577164014 598003 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you in desperate need of a job.
< 1577164014 744255 :tswett[m]!tswettmatr@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-ipmhwqeekqpxnnrx PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'm going to dogfood an operating system for the original IBM PC.
< 1577164040 400764 :tswett[m]!tswettmatr@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-ipmhwqeekqpxnnrx PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes.
< 1577164054 247507 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are your skills and where are you located.
< 1577164142 803968 :tswett[m]!tswettmatr@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-ipmhwqeekqpxnnrx PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I have experience in plenty of programming languages: C#, Perl, SQL, and bits of C++, HTML, JavaScript, Rust, and VBA.
< 1577164166 191043 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you will make a operating system for the original IBM PC, then maybe you should use x86 assembly language.
< 1577164169 224024 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :got any examples of things you've built with these tools.
< 1577164180 942628 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :any past work experience.
< 1577164183 126176 :tswett[m]!tswettmatr@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-ipmhwqeekqpxnnrx PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a degree in math and knowledge of bits and pieces here and there. I like Haskell and category theory.
< 1577164203 683046 :tswett[m]!tswettmatr@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-ipmhwqeekqpxnnrx PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, here's the flight simulator autopilot I wrote in C#. https://github.com/tswett/WarrigalsAutopilot
< 1577164218 835676 :tswett[m]!tswettmatr@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-ipmhwqeekqpxnnrx PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have several professional software development positions.
< 1577164227 968827 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :such as.
< 1577164268 380369 :tswett[m]!tswettmatr@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-ipmhwqeekqpxnnrx PRIVMSG #esoteric :Diagnosed and fixed issues with a large variety of production software for Priority Health, the health insurance arm of Spectrum Health.
< 1577164287 552091 :tswett[m]!tswettmatr@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-ipmhwqeekqpxnnrx PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wrote desktop application software for the “eXact” line of color measurement instruments using both C# and C++.
< 1577164290 450436 :tswett[m]!tswettmatr@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-ipmhwqeekqpxnnrx PRIVMSG #esoteric :That kind of stuff :D
< 1577164344 926599 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :neat. do you have any idea of the roles/duties you'd like to take on at your next position.
< 1577164439 518958 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Which assembly syntax should I use?
< 1577164442 515194 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or should I make my own?
< 1577164567 596134 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I don't know. Depend what assembler software you use, I suppose. Make up your own if you do not like that one.
< 1577164679 509166 :tswett[m]!tswettmatr@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-ipmhwqeekqpxnnrx PRIVMSG #esoteric :imode: Vaguely. I'd like to be an actuary (for one); I'd like to compile and analyze data in order to make calculations related to financial risk.
< 1577164706 776592 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :so find actuary positions.
< 1577164792 374176 :tswett[m]!tswettmatr@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-ipmhwqeekqpxnnrx PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm working on it.
< 1577164812 481098 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are/were a number of banks that use Haskell for modelling financial contracts
< 1577164830 727243 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so perhaps you could get a job which isn't just programming, but utilizes your programming skills
< 1577164866 213241 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: what's the german pun?
< 1577165019 29677 :tswett[m]!tswettmatr@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-ipmhwqeekqpxnnrx PRIVMSG #esoteric :That does sound interesting.
< 1577165131 788528 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :thinking about work makes me sad
< 1577165138 696325 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: There's "hacken" meaning to chop wood.
< 1577165160 652132 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arguably not much of a pun.
< 1577165162 51844 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: you retired?
< 1577165169 811601 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i used to love programming but 10 years of working in the tech industry while struggling with mental health problems killed that :/
< 1577165188 325646 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i flamed out
< 1577165194 549807 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm kittensitting this week. It's so good.
< 1577165196 140541 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :my spouse supports me financially
< 1577165201 110018 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :oof.
< 1577165212 489960 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happened, if you don't mind me asking?
< 1577165223 396649 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: cushions are less messy
< 1577165228 921913 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I quit my job a longish time ago and haven't mustered up the whatever to get another one.
< 1577165238 192276 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I'll do that at one point?
< 1577165252 111108 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :you must have quite a bit of savings or financial cushion.
< 1577165273 347222 :tswett[m]!tswettmatr@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-ipmhwqeekqpxnnrx PRIVMSG #esoteric :One option is to, instead of getting another job, just retire now and live off of $90 a month.
< 1577165274 339215 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :imode: it's a long story and not one i wish to retell at this moment
< 1577165288 362786 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had savings, not so much anymore
< 1577165292 641690 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like I said, my spouse supports me
< 1577165301 405795 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: that was moreso directed at shachaf, sorry.
< 1577165306 60682 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :the last message, I mean.
< 1577165306 676329 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, sorry
< 1577165311 942697 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're good. :)
< 1577165312 842674 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have shachaf on /ignore
< 1577165318 316447 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :oof.
< 1577165321 300074 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suspected as much.
< 1577165325 543708 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is also a long story i don't wish to retell
< 1577165338 534692 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::(
< 1577165351 33814 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? shachaf
< 1577165353 512137 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :Queen Shachaf of the Dawn sprø som selleri and cosplays Nepeta Leijon on weekends. He hates bell peppers with a passion. He doesn't know when to stop asking questions. We don't like this.
< 1577165362 853392 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: I get the pun now, thanks
< 1577165370 565790 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am also sad now.
< 1577165382 374503 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it works in english, once you know what it's supposed to be
< 1577165387 652530 :tswett[m]!tswettmatr@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-ipmhwqeekqpxnnrx PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like everyone.
< 1577165400 928248 :tswett[m]!tswettmatr@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-ipmhwqeekqpxnnrx PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's mine...
< 1577165402 243340 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been poor for a very long time now. this job is a miracle despite being not creatively fulfilling. but holy shit is it almost a cake walk.
< 1577165403 121365 :tswett[m]!tswettmatr@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-ipmhwqeekqpxnnrx PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tswett
< 1577165409 776651 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett is livin' it up with the penguins. He's a title under the cruxite in the lathe.
< 1577165415 2283 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? imode
< 1577165418 778192 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :imode is an Innovative Multicomponent Drug Designer, afflicted by a severe case of the UPPERs.
< 1577165432 267106 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least I'm innovative.
< 1577165446 685393 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? kingoffrance
< 1577165447 861166 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :kingoffrance? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1577165457 522267 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :IMDD -> imode is a bit of a stretch?
< 1577165460 339292 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats totally accurate
< 1577165489 604745 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know, that's true int-e. wonder who made that entry.
< 1577165508 193370 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cwlprits imode
< 1577165510 189123 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :boil̈y
< 1577165519 581886 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :git blame boily
< 1577165882 523094 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :imode: Ah https://www.project-imode.eu/ is to blame.
< 1577166007 401943 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah!
< 1577166109 300962 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :see also https://esolangs.org/logs/2017-08-03.html#ly ff.
< 1577166173 668475 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn that was a long time ago.
> 1577166183 238561 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68130&oldid=68114 5* 03BrainF99 5* (+309) 10
< 1577166210 646203 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :imode: i can't complain though. aside from lacking a sense of purpose, my life is fucking awesome :) I've finally dealt with the major root cause of those mental problems, and I have awesome friends and partners, and new exciting interests :) I've gone mushroom foraging every day since the 8th, which is awesome
< 1577166301 191210 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :good to hear you're doing well.
< 1577166353 669617 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks :)
< 1577166370 787428 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :life's a fucking trip, eh?
< 1577166391 550440 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah.
< 1577166429 800601 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've had a similar stint in the industry and there have been times (including recently) where I've just wanted to give it all up.
< 1577166441 335057 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :was homeless at one point.
< 1577166452 327766 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn
< 1577166454 26183 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :for how long?
< 1577166471 148914 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :around 7 months.
< 1577166585 289183 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :at one point I thought of becoming a writer. or working in retail. I got into programming sort of by accident and never started anything as a career. it's hard when working takes your hobbies and turns them against you.
< 1577166613 138871 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah :(
< 1577166625 30228 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't do something you love, or you'll come to hate it
< 1577166627 111619 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's how i feel
< 1577166639 178406 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it probably depends
< 1577166682 498798 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wanted to stop as early as August of this year, when I left my last position. I was essentially told that I was less than dog shit despite designing the core of the entire business from the ground up.
< 1577166710 224897 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :drifted for a month. wanted to quit. came close to ending it. then I got a call from an Amazon recruiter.
< 1577166725 205140 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"don't take something you love and try to pursue it within a bullshit corporation where most of your success/failure is not even dependent on how well you can do that something you love"
< 1577166740 606753 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's probably better if you, like, love carpentry and manage to make a little money selling tables you made in your garage, or something
< 1577166749 524952 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used to think that too.
< 1577166792 694962 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I think I favor rigidity in a lot of ways. nothing says you have to be passionate about your work life. larger corporations (usually) give you the opportunity for work/life balance. I use my spare time to work on what I want.
< 1577166793 62792 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :most jobs I worked ended due to mental health problems (whether me quitting or them firing me)
< 1577166801 871341 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah
< 1577166823 836989 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes i just got depressed and stopped going in to work
< 1577166842 514414 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :reward detachment is a real thing.
> 1577166842 524641 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:BrainF9914]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=68131 5* 03BrainF99 5* (+223) 10Created page with "== BrainF99 == Hi Everyone! I'm a "simple" programmer. The languages I know contain Python, [[Brainfuck]], [[Unary]], and to some extent BASIC. I '''''Feel''''' like I am the..."
< 1577166867 658568 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :you aren't hunting food and then feeling a full stomach. you're sitting at a desk or in a meeting to earn tokens to exhange for goods which may or may not be food.
< 1577166880 326780 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's three levels of indirection just to get to a reward.
< 1577166959 896891 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1577166967 409520 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :alienation of labor
< 1577167002 418937 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does enable us to have some nice things, though
< 1577167015 584550 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps it requires a mindset that is unnatural and somewhat hard to come by
< 1577167055 185530 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :labor is an application of energy. energy is a finite resource with multiple sources and sinks. depending on the job, the distribution of energy into different labors may not be ideal to your working lifestyle. in which case, time to find a new company.
< 1577167063 566642 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used to work 12 hour days, 6 day weeks.
< 1577167078 229803 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's unnatural and unsustainable.
< 1577167161 622846 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo it's useful to not think of as money as a reward, but as a requirement for life. once you've met the requirement, _then_ you can use your remaining energy to do whateeeeever you want.
< 1577167181 888087 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :people chase cash and then burn out because the cash wasn't a reward enough to them.
< 1577167194 679783 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't know if that was part of your cse.
< 1577167197 752676 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/cse/case
< 1577167255 542287 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no not really
< 1577167259 422193 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've never been that motivated by money
< 1577167268 527126 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :imode: "necessary evil" comes to mind
< 1577167269 303466 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :when I was working I always made more than enough to be comfortable
< 1577167287 400889 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :we talking east or west coast tech salaries.
< 1577167304 671124 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :um, some of each? and also startups that didn't pay that much salary, but still plenty
< 1577167328 242946 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :I ask because I used to frame "more than enough" around $60k.
< 1577167340 247105 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :then I was introduced to the concept of $150k+.
< 1577167348 945634 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was one job where I got way too into it and worked too many hours, but that's because i cared about the thing not because of money or being obliged to
< 1577167374 409653 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :$150k of which half immediately goes to your landlord ;P
< 1577167387 644220 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :where you renting. o_O
< 1577167392 528767 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(not quite that bad, but not too far off)
< 1577167404 436313 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn that's hard.
< 1577167435 353666 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you said west coast tech industry. housing in the san francisco area is insanely expensive
< 1577167447 192670 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you need a household income of $350k to buy a median house
< 1577167449 216320 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :PNW.
< 1577167454 146229 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :washington.
< 1577167457 547836 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seattle's pretty expensive too
< 1577167463 30468 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but at least they are building housing at an adequate rate
< 1577167489 493171 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :I live much further up north, you'd be surprised at 1. how affordable things are and 2. how good the public transit is.
< 1577167524 210053 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :currently we pay around $2k for rent + utils.
< 1577167533 827975 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's a 4 bedroom house.
< 1577167650 266042 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :the lack of state taxes is also nice. really wouldn't live in seattle though.
< 1577168885 291069 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah that's crazy cheap
< 1577168897 548665 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :we pay $3k for rent + utils, for a tiny 1BR
< 1577168908 687965 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's in a nice, though not central location
< 1577168914 807432 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :within san francisco
< 1577168962 281093 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a special place. there are reasons why people are willing to pay so much to live here
< 1577169128 646089 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll take your word for that.
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< 1577173481 399207 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What sample rate is needed to input or output video using a sound card?
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< 1577175057 965041 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :They say love of money is the root of all evil.
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< 1577176859 523517 :bunnyocto!b2c5e252@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric :halp. I'm continuing an old haskel project and the last change I made was adding a "lift $"
< 1577176863 497326 :bunnyocto!b2c5e252@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I have no idea why
< 1577176866 177321 :bunnyocto!b2c5e252@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it ain't building :D
< 1577176904 508076 :bunnyocto!b2c5e252@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It builds without the "lift $"
< 1577176915 424827 :bunnyocto!b2c5e252@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but for someone reason I added it
< 1577176920 262384 :bunnyocto!b2c5e252@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I have no idea why
< 1577176929 172947 :bunnyocto!b2c5e252@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric :something had to be broken and I had to try to fix it with a lift
< 1577176998 48293 :bunnyocto!b2c5e252@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also I added an unsafeInterleaveIO
< 1577176999 103525 :bunnyocto!b2c5e252@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhm.
< 1577177003 64752 :bunnyocto!b2c5e252@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck
< 1577177409 545280 :bunnyocto!b2c5e252@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. it seems to not to only build fine it actually seems to work without the lift.
< 1577177411 500571 :bunnyocto!b2c5e252@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh nvm then.
< 1577177439 773944 :bunnyocto!b2c5e252@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so. 1J2q.+C~ produces an infinite fibonacci sequence
< 1577177552 639254 :bunnyocto!b2c5e252@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh man.
< 1577177652 685187 :bunnyocto!b2c5e252@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf wtf wtf
< 1577177673 465376 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :3k for rent? wow
< 1577177832 539374 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18b982ad.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1577178712 626106 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@178.197.226.82 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1577178722 541934 :bunnyocto!b2c5e252@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq "ab12cd"`Frd
< 1577178723 81570 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | "12"
< 1577178743 972482 :bunnyocto!b2c5e252@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 1J2q.+C~3.+
< 1577178744 375156 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | {1 1 2}
< 1577178766 787178 :bunnyocto!b2c5e252@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric :blsqbot please do quit
< 1577178767 32262 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@178.197.226.82 QUIT :Client Quit
< 1577178822 597611 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@178.197.226.82 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1577178827 597824 :bunnyocto!b2c5e252@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq "foo.txt"rf
< 1577178828 33122 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | ERROR: Unknown command: (rf)!
< 1577178828 33160 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | "foo.txt"
< 1577178836 383670 :bunnyocto!b2c5e252@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric :good. no IO.
< 1577178930 162174 :bunnyocto!b2c5e252@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq {50 100}10rm
< 1577178931 136259 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | ERROR: Burlesque: (rm) Invalid arguments!
< 1577178931 143788 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | 10
< 1577178931 143815 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | {50 100}
< 1577178944 990118 :bunnyocto!b2c5e252@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq {50 100}10jrm
< 1577178945 723994 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | 61
< 1577178961 990756 :bunnyocto!b2c5e252@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq {50 100}55jrm
< 1577178962 480297 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | 55
< 1577179036 592278 :bunnyocto!b2c5e252@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq DB
< 1577179037 73929 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | <"____FILE","/dev/irc">
< 1577179054 112170 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@178.197.226.82 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1577179393 725046 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric
< 1577179740 910188 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@178.197.226.82 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1577179748 613216 :bunnyocto!b2c5e252@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq begin lisp (?+ 5 3) end lisp
< 1577179749 790024 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | 8
< 1577179774 799493 :bunnyocto!b2c5e252@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq {1 2 3 4}k++?/L[
< 1577179775 172963 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | 2
< 1577179794 619042 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, blsq has a lisp interpreter built-in?
< 1577179809 987001 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is it just the bot?
< 1577179818 319881 :bunnyocto!b2c5e252@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric :blsq has lots of things
< 1577179823 528521 :bunnyocto!b2c5e252@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know. the author of blsq is mad.
< 1577179936 206745 :bunnyocto!b2c5e252@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq begin lisp (rz (?* (?+ 5 3) 3) end lisp
< 1577179936 486501 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | ERROR: (line 1, column 16):
< 1577179936 494129 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | unexpected "("
< 1577179936 494159 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | expecting space, white space or ")"
< 1577179941 414029 :bunnyocto!b2c5e252@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm
< 1577179946 664953 :bunnyocto!b2c5e252@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq begin lisp (rz (?* (?+ 5 3) 3)) end lisp
< 1577179947 70226 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | {0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24}
< 1577180001 471107 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is a weird error message
< 1577180009 940160 :bunnyocto!b2c5e252@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq %squ={J?*} begin lisp (squ 3) end lisp
< 1577180010 776958 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | 9
< 1577180037 552809 :bunnyocto!b2c5e252@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: burlesques parsing rules are veeery complicated
< 1577180083 237895 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it looks like it loops or something
< 1577180093 221501 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or it is parsing from right to left
< 1577180097 595303 :bunnyocto!b2c5e252@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq begin lisp (?+ 1 1) (?+ 1 1) end lisp
< 1577180098 265915 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | 2
< 1577180098 265943 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | 2
< 1577180162 794843 :bunnyocto!b2c5e252@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq begin lisp (sv squ {J?*}) (squ 3) end lisp
< 1577180163 225712 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | ERROR: (line 1, column 16):
< 1577180163 225968 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | unexpected "s"
< 1577180163 225977 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | expecting space, white space or ")"
< 1577180166 338860 :bunnyocto!b2c5e252@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm.
< 1577180187 894525 :bunnyocto!b2c5e252@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq begin lisp (sv "squ" {J?*}) (squ 3) end lisp
< 1577180188 332971 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | ERROR: Unknown command: (squ)!
< 1577180188 333007 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | 3
< 1577180196 766968 :bunnyocto!b2c5e252@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq begin lisp (sv "squ" {J?*}) (squ 3) (DB) end lisp
< 1577180197 678202 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | ERROR: (line 1, column 16):
< 1577180197 678253 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | unexpected "\""
< 1577180197 678267 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | expecting space, white space or ")"
< 1577180210 181331 :bunnyocto!b2c5e252@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq begin lisp (sv "squ" {J?*}) end lisp DB
< 1577180210 597357 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | <"____FILE","/dev/irc"><{J ?*},"squ">
< 1577180225 205364 :bunnyocto!b2c5e252@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh.
< 1577180230 423911 :bunnyocto!b2c5e252@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a weird argument order
< 1577180253 605455 :bunnyocto!b2c5e252@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq begin lisp (sv {J?*} "squ") (squ 3) (DB) end lisp
< 1577180253 985358 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | ERROR: (line 1, column 16):
< 1577180253 985582 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | unexpected "{"
< 1577180253 985597 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | expecting space, white space or ")"
< 1577180261 32655 :bunnyocto!b2c5e252@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq begin lisp (sv {J?*} "squ") (squ 3) end lisp
< 1577180261 552599 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | 9
< 1577180265 435762 :bunnyocto!b2c5e252@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well.
< 1577180398 698277 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds
< 1577180421 254955 :bunnyocto!b2c5e252@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq begin lisp (sv {(J) (?*)} "squ") (squ 3) end lisp
< 1577180421 481139 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric
< 1577180421 633175 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | ?*
< 1577180421 640965 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | J
< 1577180421 640991 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | 3
< 1577180449 695202 :bunnyocto!b2c5e252@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: it supports S-expression but not really lisp
< 1577181055 880338 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.11.215.dynamic.ufanet.ru JOIN :#esoteric
< 1577181064 775548 :bunnyocto!b2c5e252@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 3S[
< 1577181065 694348 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | 9
< 1577181070 617467 :bunnyocto!b2c5e252@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 3S[S[
< 1577181071 158885 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | 81
< 1577181074 134192 :bunnyocto!b2c5e252@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 3oS[
< 1577181074 801889 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | ERROR: (line 1, column 5):
< 1577181074 801996 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | unexpected end of input
< 1577181102 440482 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds
< 1577181131 286714 :bunnyocto!b2c5e252@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 3oS[
< 1577181132 125077 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | ERROR: (line 1, column 5):
< 1577181132 125105 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | unexpected end of input
< 1577181137 214019 :bunnyocto!b2c5e252@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric :damnit.
< 1577181241 859899 :bunnyocto!b2c5e252@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 3oS[
< 1577181242 505012 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | 81
< 1577181441 926077 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric
< 1577182106 886958 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds
< 1577182522 964560 :bunnyocto!b2c5e252@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 1 3 <<
< 1577182523 846368 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | 8
< 1577182689 222552 :bunnyocto!b2c5e252@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq "1101"b2
< 1577182689 815939 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | 13
< 1577182699 734815 :bunnyocto!b2c5e252@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq "1011"b2
< 1577182700 78070 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | 11
< 1577182705 864883 :bunnyocto!b2c5e252@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 13 1rr
< 1577182706 256600 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | 26
< 1577182717 395979 :bunnyocto!b2c5e252@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm.
< 1577182723 836011 :bunnyocto!b2c5e252@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 13 1rrb2
< 1577182724 233424 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | "11010"
< 1577182770 469010 :bunnyocto!b2c5e252@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not rotate
< 1577182773 211639 :bunnyocto!b2c5e252@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that looks like a shift
< 1577182775 762111 :bunnyocto!b2c5e252@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wth.
< 1577182797 363107 :bunnyocto!b2c5e252@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 13b2
< 1577182797 733910 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | "1101"
< 1577182809 974412 :bunnyocto!b2c5e252@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 13 0rr
< 1577182810 327892 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | 13
< 1577182813 905481 :bunnyocto!b2c5e252@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 13 0rrb2
< 1577182814 347481 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | "1101"
< 1577182819 593173 :bunnyocto!b2c5e252@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 13 -1rrb2
< 1577182819 956062 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | "110"
< 1577182836 724130 :bunnyocto!b2c5e252@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's just not right.
< 1577182871 231798 :bunnyocto!b2c5e252@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ror(1101) should be 1110, and rol(1101) should be (1011)
< 1577183267 66713 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01cb0407597a00211defe36eb7f539.ipv6.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric
< 1577183366 184372 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric
< 1577183738 444276 :bunnyocto!b2c5e252@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 13 2dgrt2dg
< 1577183739 530634 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | ERROR: Burlesque: (dg) Invalid arguments!
< 1577183739 530665 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | 2
< 1577183739 530675 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | {1 1 1 0}
< 1577183744 228124 :bunnyocto!b2c5e252@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 13 2dg
< 1577183744 581357 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | {1 1 0 1}
< 1577183751 174942 :bunnyocto!b2c5e252@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 13 2dg2ug
< 1577183751 561316 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | 13
< 1577183756 333142 :bunnyocto!b2c5e252@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 13 2dg2rtug
< 1577183756 664107 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | ERROR: Burlesque: (ug) Invalid arguments!
< 1577183756 664164 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | ERROR: Burlesque: (+]) Invalid arguments!
< 1577183756 664179 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | 2
< 1577183760 946658 :bunnyocto!b2c5e252@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 13 2dg2rt
< 1577183761 294192 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | ERROR: Burlesque: (+]) Invalid arguments!
< 1577183761 295212 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | 2
< 1577183761 305085 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | ERROR: Burlesque: (l_) Invalid arguments!
< 1577183764 586583 :bunnyocto!b2c5e252@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 13 2dg2
< 1577183765 113392 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | 2
< 1577183765 121614 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | {1 1 0 1}
< 1577183768 579829 :bunnyocto!b2c5e252@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 13 2dgrt2ug
< 1577183768 905532 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | 14
< 1577183801 54712 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i squint that almost looks forthish
< 1577183893 715887 :bunnyocto!b2c5e252@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq "abcd"rt
< 1577183894 293793 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | "dabc"
< 1577183900 961170 :bunnyocto!b2c5e252@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq "abcd"RT
< 1577183901 336463 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | "bcda"
< 1577183907 270464 :bunnyocto!b2c5e252@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq "abcd"o3RT
< 1577183907 675575 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | "dabc"
< 1577183937 907125 :bunnyocto!b2c5e252@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 3o9S[
< 1577183938 253502 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | 19323349832288915105454068722019581055401465761603328550184537628902466746415537000017939429786029354390082329294586119505153509101332940884098040478728639542560550133727399482778062322407372338121043399668242276591791504658985882995272436541441
< 1577183946 425261 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | 19323349832288915105454068722019581055401465761603328550184537628902466746415537000017939429786029354390082329294586119505153509101332940884098040478728639542560550133727399482778062322407372338121043399668242276591791504658985882995272436541441
< 1577184156 792597 :bunnyocto!b2c5e252@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 13rl
< 1577184157 138607 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | 11
< 1577184262 465422 :bunnyocto!b2c5e252@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 13 1qrlC~4.+
< 1577184263 744194 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | {13 11 7 7}
< 1577184285 698643 :bunnyocto!b2c5e252@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 13 1qrlC~5.+
< 1577184286 63593 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | {13 11 7 7 7}
< 1577184317 177829 :bunnyocto!b2c5e252@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq "a" 1{"a"_+}C~5.+
< 1577184317 365902 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | {"a" "aa" "aaa" "aaaa" "aaaaa"}
< 1577184334 943110 :bunnyocto!b2c5e252@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq "a" 1{"a"_+}C~5.+wd
< 1577184335 299323 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | "a aa aaa aaaa aaaaa"
< 1577184391 260271 :bunnyocto!b2c5e252@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq "a"5ro?*wd
< 1577184391 378844 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | "a1 a2 a3 a4 a5"
< 1577184395 840894 :bunnyocto!b2c5e252@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn
< 1577184412 813454 :bunnyocto!b2c5e252@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq "a"5ro.*wd
< 1577184413 171784 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | {1 ERROR: Burlesque: (.*) Invalid arguments! 2 ERROR: Burlesque: (.*) Invalid arguments! 3 ERROR: Burlesque: (.*) Invalid arguments! 4 ERROR: Burlesque: (.*) Invalid arguments! 5}
< 1577184413 171836 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | "a"
< 1577184422 762644 :bunnyocto!b2c5e252@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq "a"5.*
< 1577184423 208111 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | {"a" "a" "a" "a" "a"}
< 1577184443 604955 :bunnyocto!b2c5e252@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 'a5.*
< 1577184443 773890 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | "aaaaa"
< 1577184449 233261 :bunnyocto!b2c5e252@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 'a5ro.*
< 1577184449 537143 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | ERROR: Burlesque: (.*) Invalid arguments!
< 1577184449 537187 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | {1 2 3 4 5}
< 1577184449 537195 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | 'a
< 1577184452 759543 :bunnyocto!b2c5e252@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pf.
< 1577184480 822210 :bunnyocto!b2c5e252@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq "a"5ro?*)im
< 1577184481 215466 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | {ERROR: Burlesque: (r[) Invalid arguments! {++} "a1" ERROR: Burlesque: (r[) Invalid arguments! {++} "a2" ERROR: Burlesque: (r[) Invalid arguments! {++} "a3" ERROR: Burlesque: (r[) Invalid arguments! {++} "a4" ERROR: Burlesque: (r[) Invalid arguments! {++} 
< 1577184485 311823 :bunnyocto!b2c5e252@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah screw it
< 1577184590 914289 :bunnyocto!b2c5e252@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 5iv
< 1577184591 111389 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | 0
< 1577184595 231585 :bunnyocto!b2c5e252@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 5.0iv
< 1577184595 343152 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | 0.2
< 1577184669 557896 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? spam
< 1577184670 692943 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :Spam is a delicious meat product. See http://www.spamjamhawaii.com/
< 1577184715 328657 :bunnyocto!b2c5e252@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sry :D
< 1577184720 246463 :bunnyocto!b2c5e252@178.197.226.82 PRIVMSG #esoteric :blqsbot please do quit
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> 1577186542 877987 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Pattern14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=68132 5* 03A 5* (+645) 10Created page with "[[Pattern]] is an esolang that is inspired by English grammar word describers. == Describers == <pre> x after y indicates that the following syntax must be fullfilled: The act..."
> 1577186711 197809 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Pattern14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68133&oldid=68132 5* 03A 5* (+302) 10
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< 1577189906 479974 :A-ee!725fb9c1@114.95.185.193 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq "Hello World"
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< 1577190009 567062 :A-ee!725fb9c1@114.95.185.193 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(How do I add my own bot onto IRC?)
< 1577190276 226900 :A-ee!725fb9c1@114.95.185.193 PART :#esoteric
< 1577190837 267463 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :by writing a program that listens to irc messages and letting it run?
> 1577195450 992864 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Quadril-Is14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68134&oldid=67795 5* 03Quadril-Is 5* (+31) 10/* Some random stuff */
> 1577195475 788020 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Quadril-Is14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68135&oldid=68134 5* 03Quadril-Is 5* (-31) 10/* Some random stuff */
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> 1577199081 867016 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07The Insane Esolang14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68136&oldid=58031 5* 03Galaxtone 5* (+58) 10A bit of detail
> 1577199341 911294 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07The Insane Esolang14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68137&oldid=68136 5* 03Galaxtone 5* (+48) 10/* Instructions */ Providing "substitute" for a instruction.
> 1577199988 708914 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07The Insane Esolang14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68138&oldid=68137 5* 03Galaxtone 5* (+154) 10/* Instructions */ Explicit definition of  to confirm turing completeness solution described in talk page.
> 1577200315 862387 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:The Insane Esolang14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68139&oldid=55311 5* 03Galaxtone 5* (-3757) 10/* Removed Submissions */ Moved submission to front page.
> 1577200432 641377 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07The Insane Esolang14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68140&oldid=68138 5* 03Galaxtone 5* (+3809) 10/* Prove Turing-Completeness */
> 1577200468 438068 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07The Insane Esolang14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68141&oldid=68140 5* 03Galaxtone 5* (-885) 10/* Prove Turing-Completeness */
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> 1577214079 229783 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:BrainF9914]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68142&oldid=68131 5* 03Hex96 5* (+11) 10/* BrainF99 */
> 1577214463 103267 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Your14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=68143 5* 03Hex96 5* (+303) 10Created page with "Your is a Turing complete esolang by [[User:Hex96|Hex]]. It contains 2 commands.  #Your: depending on the number of yours, it does a different task. #Youre: SCREAMS AT YOU,..."
> 1577214500 858857 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Hex9614]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68144&oldid=68008 5* 03Hex96 5* (+11) 10/* List of esolangs */
> 1577214536 440181 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Your14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68145&oldid=68143 5* 03Hex96 5* (+38) 10/* Examples */
> 1577214610 686249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Your14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68146&oldid=68145 5* 03Hex96 5* (+70) 10/* R cat */
> 1577214670 670815 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Your14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68147&oldid=68146 5* 03Hex96 5* (+54) 10/* Examples */
> 1577214716 672127 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Your14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68148&oldid=68147 5* 03Hex96 5* (+44) 10/* R cat */
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> 1577217314 939032 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:BrainF9914]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68149&oldid=68142 5* 03Palaiologos 5* (+149) 10
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< 1577228529 408037 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18b982ad.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mspalist 12/24
< 1577228531 650377 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :mspalist? No such file or directory
< 1577228535 790619 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18b982ad.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls
< 1577228536 741568 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :asmbf-1.1.1 \ banana.txt \ bfi \ compiled_brachylog.pl \ just \ karma \ le \ paste \ program \ spline \ spout \ test \ test.sh
< 1577228539 773353 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18b982ad.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls bin
< 1577228540 573028 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access 'bin': No such file or directory
< 1577228557 337249 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18b982ad.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Blah what's the Homestuck list?
< 1577228576 185352 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18b982ad.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls ..
< 1577228576 981254 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin \ canary \ emoticons \ esobible \ etc \ f \ factor \ hw \ ibin \ interps \ karma \ karma.orig \ karma.rej \ le \ lib \ misle \ paste \ ply-3.8 \ quines \ quotes \ share \ src \ stuff \ tmflry \ tmp \ wisdom
< 1577228583 966177 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18b982ad.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls ../bin
< 1577228584 801468 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ \  \  \ ! \ " \ # \ ' \ ( \ ? \ ?? \ @ \ ^.^ \ ` \ `^ \ `` \ ¿ \ ؟ \ ⁗ \ `̀ \ 04w08e09l11c12o13m04e \ ,1 \ 1 \ 13 \ 1492 \ ,2 \ 2 \ 2014 \ 2015 \ 2016 \ 2017 \ 3 \ 4 \ 5 \ 5quote \ 5w \ 8-ball \ 8ball \ aaaaaaaaa \ acronym \ addquote \ addscowrevs \ addtodo \ addwhatis \ age \ aglist \ airport \ airport-lookup \ allquotes \ analogy \ anonlog \ append \ as86 \ as-encoding \ asm \ asmbf \ asmbfx \ autowelcome \ bardsworthli
< 1577228591 605396 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18b982ad.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls ../bin/*list
< 1577228592 460961 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access '../bin/*list': No such file or directory
< 1577228795 705568 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`listlist
< 1577228796 621482 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFlist* \ aglist* \ bardsworthlist* \ bobadventureslist* \ calesyta2016list* \ danddreclist* \ don'taskdon'ttelllist@ \ dontaskdonttelllist* \ ehlist* \ emptylist* \ erflist* \ flist* \ idealist* \ ioccclist* \ keenlist* \ list* \ listen* \ listlist* \ llist* \ makelist* \ makelistlist* \ minimalist* \ mlist* \ olist* \ pbflist* \ slist* \ smlist* \ stylist* \ testlist* \ xkcdwhatiflist* \ ysaclist*
< 1577228845 590950 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? slist
< 1577228846 967185 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :Update notification for the webcomic Homestuck.
< 1577228859 77065 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :very logical
< 1577228877 195939 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :then again, it was one of the first, so people could still remember them all
< 1577228891 889386 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18b982ad.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slist 12/24
< 1577228893 440748 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :slist 12/24: Taneb atriq Ngevd nvd Fiora Sgeo ThatOtherPerson alot
< 1577228917 500627 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18b982ad.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? keenlist
< 1577228918 701117 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :keenlist is notification for when Tom Hall acquires the necessary intellectual property rights to create the videogame series Commander Keen: The Universe is Toast
< 1577228951 916665 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18b982ad.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :slist also used to be useful a lot more often
< 1577228957 674853 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18b982ad.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which probably helped.
< 1577228967 298222 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18b982ad.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :We'll probably have this conversation again in about a month
< 1577228975 63662 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY
< 1577228999 352740 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18b982ad.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ysaclist
< 1577229000 577216 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :ysaclist? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1577229025 641355 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18b982ad.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? erflist
< 1577229026 692934 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :erflist? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1577229142 64239 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :<myname> that is a weird error message <-- iirc burlesque is parsed with the haskell parsec library, which gives such errors.
< 1577229228 391284 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although i think it may not be written in the recommended style, or the errors would be more sensible.
< 1577229394 687544 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it parses left to right, but if you use backtracking in the wrong way it can give an error on a too early token because it forgets what really caused it to give up
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< 1577240175 306829 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: can you obfuscate boolean circuits?
< 1577240175 426023 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: python lets you assign things to variables.
< 1577240262 827737 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's... almost relevant
< 1577240417 231106 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Can you simulate B12/S1V? 
< 1577240417 389500 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: it was before i went to the party. the party. so you reported what he said... never mind. it needs an fnord.
< 1577240429 68809 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's less so.
< 1577240600 255726 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that an AoC question?
< 1577240621 496674 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, yes it is.
< 1577240651 730669 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I may have seen that notation before.
< 1577240678 158994 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe minus the letters, just 3/23 for GoL?
< 1577240791 256955 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I made the mistake of including diagonal neighbours... twice.
< 1577240811 208794 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I had seen B23/S3 for GoL.
< 1577240838 395695 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The V suffix I hadn't seen anywhere, picked it up from https://conwaylife.com/wiki/Rulestring for my notes though.
< 1577240846 949962 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Because I had to rewrite everything for part 2. The one bit I copied over turned out to be flawed :) )
< 1577240920 774916 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because for part 1, I included the cell itself in the "neighbour" count. So the formula for the final cell didn't work anymore in part 2...
< 1577240932 259054 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"formula"
< 1577240946 700976 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I managed to make about every single trivial mistake I could possibly have made when writing up part 1.
< 1577240960 194335 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe because I had just woken up.
< 1577240986 457013 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"This is easy... I'll just breeze through... why doesn't this work?"
< 1577240990 772744 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shifting to the wrong direction (in at least three separate occasions), using `i` where `1 << i` was intended, using the wrong variables.
< 1577240998 945385 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that's almost exactly what I was thinking.
< 1577241012 125846 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I'll just fix this and then we can have breakfast, won't take long."
< 1577241019 137216 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh I got the final count correct at least :)
< 1577241050 740727 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it was less frustrating then the day before (did you see my privmsg?)
< 1577241084 905910 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, right, I forgot to have a look at that. But yeah, kind of thought it might be.
< 1577241118 874957 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Which, btw, is all my fault for sticking to an inconvenient interpreter design. Purity is not really the problem, I could have an interpreter that returns continuations for input and output actions.)
< 1577241183 537421 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only one more. Although over on Go side, I've only done 1-6, 11, 18, 19, 22. Kind of want to do the complete set for some reason.
< 1577241201 490820 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rather than having a [Reply] -> [Request] type, it would be  data M = M Request (Reply -> M)
< 1577241227 405125 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I could collect requests, compute the replies, and feed them to the continuation at my leisure.
< 1577241258 952321 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I should've done that for the labyrinth task.
< 1577241397 672344 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think several of them have had labyrinths. The one with the keys, and the one with the donuts.
< 1577241483 225409 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's the one you missed, the oxygen one.
< 1577241509 339178 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :The one where you actually had to do some exploration of the labyrinth.
< 1577241527 566324 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Day 15.
< 1577241577 994066 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh https://conwaylife.com/wiki/Rulestring actually mentioned the variant without letters, but it has survival first: 23/3 for GoL.
< 1577241658 473929 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"has fallen into disuse in recent years"
< 1577241664 223266 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, right, the one I did super-slow.
< 1577241707 328100 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :AIUI, the Bx/Sy variant is what Golly uses.
< 1577241735 355579 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(TBF, the "in recent years" was written in 2017, so maybe it's still okay)
< 1577241802 466805 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I was briefly tempted to stop after day 21 actually, to keep the 42 stars :)
< 1577241914 349017 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Day 22 is shaping up to have the most difficult part 2 (relative to part 1)...
< 1577241967 114009 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess programmers don't need to know linear algebra.
< 1577241971 49089 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :By a wide margin, if the stats table is a good metric of that.
< 1577241982 556483 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1577242052 535091 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :But day 16 is holding up pretty well too.
< 1577242081 713601 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It might just be because part 1 is so eminently solvable without any cleverness, just by following the instructions. In fact, my part 1 solution actually did the motions on the whole deck, instead of just the card it asks about.
< 1577242126 192196 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :For 16 I think it's kind of a what do you call them, a trick question.
< 1577242150 311732 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think so, yes.
< 1577242173 759381 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds
< 1577242176 807337 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 NICK :Lord_of_Life
< 1577242222 592070 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's too bad that the absolute numbers are pretty much meaningless.
< 1577242242 719605 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(though we can see a nice decay from day 1 to now)
< 1577242268 224011 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :And, oh, the graph display is flawed.
< 1577242279 338573 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :It should carry the remainder from the gold stars into the silver stars.
< 1577242308 815102 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The bar on day 22 shouldn't be shorter than the ones above and below.)
< 1577242404 330494 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some of the top 100 scores are pretty impressive. For 3590, you'd have to average... about 75 points/star.
< 1577242441 719396 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 3590/48
< 1577242443 830478 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 74.79166666666667
< 1577242463 625174 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 728/48
< 1577242466 128872 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 15.166666666666666
< 1577242478 964248 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 728/75
< 1577242481 314351 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 9.706666666666667
< 1577242542 577085 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I agree, being consistently fast on these tasks is impressive.
< 1577242572 841383 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a few friends working at one of the sponsors (Reaktor -- kind of a given, they're pretty big employer of software engineers in Finland), though haven't seen them on the lists.
< 1577242688 441789 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course you have to approach this differently if you aim for the lists. Have a template ready (odd days: Intcode interpreter, parser, maybe even an invocation of the interpreter), and a command to fetch the input at the right time. May easily shave of 2-3 minutes from the solving time, which seems to be crucial.
< 1577242711 64262 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shave *off
< 1577243047 433588 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :today in schlock mercenary: unlearning thermodynamics
< 1577243056 356864 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, merry christmas
< 1577243128 599230 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Damn. I didn't even read that part.
< 1577243159 488025 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :schlocking
< 1577243164 568203 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :TBF it's a fiction-inside-fiction thing.
< 1577243179 65578 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah my lack of attention is deplorable.
< 1577243214 495355 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I kind of dozed off at "using" and switched to, what's her name again...
< 1577243218 72860 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cindy?
< 1577243233 896572 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Well, small detached fragment off her.)
< 1577243245 256346 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Now imagine saying that about a human.)
< 1577243273 458147 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/off/of/ (My spelling grows worse, tooo (sic!).)
< 1577243296 216774 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? santa
< 1577243297 513235 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :santa? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1577243402 178868 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :still waiting for the fragments to multiply. all we know about those two imply they _should_ be able to do that. assuming the fabber can handle all the fragsuit parts.
< 1577243413 622576 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*implies
< 1577243452 111912 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :including itself.
< 1577243579 272025 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although the pa'anuri are going to be suspicious if they keep nuking the evidence after every raw materical collection
< 1577243588 684357 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*-c
< 1577243740 455812 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course if they're any smart they're already suspicious after the first one.
< 1577243795 348867 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd be disappointed if they weren't smart.
< 1577243807 879382 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though not necessarily Pete levels of smart.
< 1577243825 901963 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Petey?
< 1577243836 697143 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Names are hard.
< 1577243850 532484 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :blame darths & droids hth
< 1577243879 682677 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Not all of them. "Ennesby" is easy.)
< 1577243897 971122 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :we're stilling waiting to find out what devious plan the people at the university have uncovered
< 1577243904 717790 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Because it has a story attached to it.)
< 1577243924 557872 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*still
< 1577243946 86072 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :this spelling thing is clearly not following normal causality tdnh
< 1577243953 127453 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I just checked... we had not seen Schlock for (just shy) over 4 weeks.
< 1577244002 743066 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are way too many story threads. Except, somehow, each of them is entertaining in and of itself (to me).
< 1577244025 809680 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's some heavy splitting of the party going on
< 1577244043 983762 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh right. Poor DM.
< 1577244186 778678 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :now with lota out of commission they can't use their original plan for getting the rest of the teams into that pa'anuri warship
< 1577244240 831197 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :then again maybe petey built a copy. he did say he would.
< 1577244251 44777 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Did you notice that LOTA was addressed with puny pronouns and did not object?
< 1577244268 214700 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :( https://www.schlockmercenary.com/2019-12-18 )
< 1577244299 418592 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :by putzho, yes.
< 1577244328 233645 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ironic because putzho is the one who actually shows he cares
< 1577254687 461672 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :merry christmas, happy holidays.
< 1577257333 881548 :wlp1s1!iczero@hellomouse/dev/iczero NICK :eno1
< 1577257658 64788 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :{?} Enchantment - Aura ;; Enchant permanent ;; Whenever any object with counters moves to another zone, add those counters to enchanted permanent.
< 1577258277 468048 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds
< 1577259053 447709 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's AoC done. No programming today. Maybe some luck.
< 1577259533 34197 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite
> 1577260902 89557 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Intcode14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68150&oldid=68113 5* 03JonoCode9374 5* (+127) 10
< 1577261074 756707 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well *someone* sounds relieved...
> 1577262744 398714 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[0714]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68151&oldid=43941 5* 03YamTokTpaFa 5* (+49) 10/* External resources */ Y U No Categorize!?
< 1577266571 443518 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1577267089 443139 :shkhn!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Quit: leaving
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< 1577270590 102456 :kritixilithos!~kritixili@gateway/tor-sasl/kritixilithos QUIT :Quit: quit
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< 1577273192 474321 :ArthurStrong!~ArthurStr@slow.wreckage.volia.net QUIT :Client Quit
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< 1577273237 246745 :ArthurStrong!~ArthurStr@slow.wreckage.volia.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi all!
< 1577276551 586773 :LKoen!~LKoen@2a01cb0407597a0055f0de10bc6e871c.ipv6.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric
< 1577277475 454900 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.11.215.dynamic.ufanet.ru JOIN :#esoteric
> 1577277609 105768 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User talk:A14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68152&oldid=67580 5* 03A 5* (-14431) 10Replaced content with "~~~~"
> 1577277968 187280 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User talk:A14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68153&oldid=68152 5* 03A 5* (+137) 10
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> 1577278385 108561 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Your14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=68154 5* 03A 5* (+228) 10Confused...
> 1577278415 304451 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Pattern14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68155&oldid=68133 5* 03A 5* (+22) 10
> 1577278729 114995 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Rebmu14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68156&oldid=66347 5* 03A 5* (-1) 10Move to the morely-used Golfing language category
> 1577278763 559992 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07W (A)14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68157&oldid=68100 5* 03A 5* (+53) 10Make the page visible
> 1577279078 60684 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:User14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=68158 5* 03A 5* (+257) 10Created page with "If User require an account, how does it know what esolangs.org user is executing the ''executable'' program? ~~~~"
> 1577279182 792077 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Rebmu14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68159&oldid=68156 5* 03A 5* (+80) 10
> 1577279371 422209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07B sharp14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68160&oldid=67535 5* 03A 5* (+24) 10You gotta categorize, even if this is a stub.
> 1577279492 86757 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Phone call14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68161&oldid=60441 5* 03A 5* (+22) 10
> 1577279517 285555 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Volatile14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68162&oldid=67976 5* 03A 5* (+23) 10
> 1577279547 239831 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Deklare14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68163&oldid=67981 5* 03A 5* (+23) 10
> 1577279620 305881 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Array Changer14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68164&oldid=56854 5* 03A 5* (+23) 10
> 1577279953 132767 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Intcode14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68165&oldid=68150 5* 03Fizzie 5* (+1) 10copyedit
< 1577279996 801278 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: I did a mixture of programming and not-programming, in the sense that I explored manually, but then had a computer try all subsets of items.
< 1577280038 576879 :A-ee!725fb9c1@114.95.185.193 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1577280071 353170 :A-ee!725fb9c1@114.95.185.193 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?title=Dd&direction=next&oldid=67881 That means fungot's 'or' language can also be extended to a 500-word requirement.
< 1577280071 571610 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :A-ee: it's the builtin language on my calculator once. got distracted by other projects?
< 1577280162 718743 :A-ee!725fb9c1@114.95.185.193 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Link to the language: https://esolangs.org/wiki/Or
< 1577280525 704847 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've got a suggestion
< 1577280538 561772 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can we merge ALL the trivial brainfuck derivatives into one site with multiple pages?
< 1577280555 615115 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would greatly increase quality of the wiki overall
< 1577280588 691892 :A-ee!725fb9c1@114.95.185.193 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Idea: make a separate wiki for brainfuck derivatives.
< 1577280695 750625 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would be the most boring wiki I've ever seen
> 1577280702 596376 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Or14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68166&oldid=66752 5* 03A 5* (+3830) 10
< 1577280707 559313 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't want to remove them, BUT
< 1577280717 391325 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we really need to get them concentrated
< 1577280728 392561 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because expecting to find a cool language I can work a bit on
< 1577280734 814788 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :most times I see another useless brainfuck derivative.
< 1577280740 558287 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*trivial
> 1577280826 53937 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Or14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68167&oldid=68166 5* 03A 5* (+148) 10/* Implementations */
> 1577280897 853118 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Solo14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68168&oldid=56399 5* 03A 5* (+31) 10
> 1577280932 355724 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07--Unless14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68169&oldid=61486 5* 03A 5* (+36) 10
> 1577280972 442845 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07OOOOL14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68170&oldid=56452 5* 03A 5* (+30) 10
> 1577281003 875156 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Is14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68171&oldid=65497 5* 03A 5* (+26) 10
> 1577281046 747778 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Code pointer14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68172&oldid=56525 5* 03A 5* (+36) 10
> 1577281307 501626 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07SimpleScript14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68173&oldid=61563 5* 03A 5* (+40) 10
> 1577281323 856281 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Turing-machine14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68174&oldid=57261 5* 03A 5* (+41) 10
> 1577281345 269446 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Braine14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68175&oldid=56591 5* 03A 5* (+34) 10
> 1577281357 385612 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Stop14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68176&oldid=56851 5* 03A 5* (+32) 10
> 1577281464 654352 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Frums14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68177&oldid=61564 5* 03A 5* (+704) 10
> 1577281495 57333 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07StubScript14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68178&oldid=56737 5* 03A 5* (+23) 10
> 1577281530 210678 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Parenthesisfuck14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68179&oldid=56703 5* 03A 5* (+43) 10
> 1577281733 738312 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07This=That 2.014]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68180&oldid=66441 5* 03A 5* (+23) 10
> 1577281746 805850 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[0714]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68181&oldid=58142 5* 03A 5* (+23) 10
> 1577281756 912611 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Simple Smurf14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68182&oldid=56959 5* 03A 5* (+23) 10
> 1577281860 221910 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Log14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68183&oldid=56951 5* 03A 5* (+34) 10
> 1577281872 536509 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Log++14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68184&oldid=56934 5* 03A 5* (+23) 10
> 1577281936 415444 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07IPVL14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68185&oldid=57449 5* 03A 5* (+23) 10
> 1577281959 752616 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07SequenceScript14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68186&oldid=56990 5* 03A 5* (+42) 10
> 1577282101 59411 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Functoin14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68187&oldid=57217 5* 03A 5* (+31) 10
< 1577282127 275198 :A-ee!725fb9c1@114.95.185.193 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm #16 in the https://esolangs.org/wiki/Special:MostLinkedPages!
< 1577282163 11903 :A-ee!725fb9c1@114.95.185.193 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoops https://esolangs.org/wiki/Special:MostLinkedPages
< 1577282181 977059 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: If the solution is unique then I got lucky in my manual up&down endeavour.
> 1577282224 399468 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Printf14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68188&oldid=57486 5* 03A 5* (+23) 10
< 1577282254 492498 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: The only programming I did was to add abbreviations (n = north and so forth)
> 1577282259 74450 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07OFC14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68189&oldid=57286 5* 03A 5* (+23) 10
> 1577282276 723629 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Register Automaton14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68190&oldid=57275 5* 03A 5* (+23) 10
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< 1577282344 278010 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: The solution does seem to be unique, at least for me.
> 1577282388 526695 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Printscript14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68192&oldid=59653 5* 03A 5* (+23) 10
> 1577282410 14395 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07TCC14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68193&oldid=58078 5* 03A 5* (+31) 10
< 1577282436 173440 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then again, there's only 256 possibilities, and with the hot/cold hints, you probably don't need to be *that* lucky to hit it manually.
> 1577282460 884931 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Printscript 514]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68194&oldid=59654 5* 03A 5* (+41) 10
> 1577282487 110349 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Printscript 914]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68195&oldid=59655 5* 03A 5* (+41) 10
< 1577282503 755426 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I found the non-pickable items cute btw
< 1577282537 219786 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I drew a map using Google Keep's drawing feature, and then it turns out the "download" option produces incredibly poor-quality low-resolution PNG exports of whatever the internal vector drawing format is.
> 1577282545 447231 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Is anything!14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68196&oldid=59442 5* 03A 5* (+40) 10
< 1577282551 676714 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Really need to find a better drawing program for my ChromeOS thing-with-a-pen.)
> 1577282565 332954 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Printscript 1314]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68197&oldid=59656 5* 03A 5* (+43) 10
< 1577282583 494092 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's an evil e,n,w,s non-loop in mine (and I'm assuming the map doesn't change).
> 1577282630 724169 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Golfuck14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68198&oldid=61560 5* 03A 5* (+23) 10
< 1577282638 819364 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seemed stable for me, but yeah, it's not physically feasible if all the steps have the same length.
< 1577282649 900747 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fortunately the drawing is at least editable while still in Keep. ;)
< 1577282656 30021 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :stable, yes, indeed.
> 1577282706 335089 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Assembly language14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68199&oldid=60067 5* 03A 5* (+23) 10
< 1577282719 458316 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://zem.fi/tmp/kqFQJlypd0Aoxhld.png if you want to check whether the map's the same for everyone, and only the password differs.
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> 1577282820 459063 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Bucket14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68201&oldid=65440 5* 03A 5* (+23) 10
> 1577282906 966237 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07String rewriting paradigm14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68202&oldid=60523 5* 03A 5* (+23) 10
< 1577282918 213564 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Well, maybe the password and the item set.)
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> 1577283126 691279 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Top-based turning14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68205&oldid=60764 5* 03A 5* (+23) 10
> 1577283142 394622 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07CARfish14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68206&oldid=60968 5* 03A 5* (+23) 10
< 1577283147 406461 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, that's completely different
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> 1577283741 163256 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Ephemeral14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68210&oldid=62238 5* 03A 5* (+23) 10
> 1577283779 131931 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07XO Mchne14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68211&oldid=62287 5* 03A 5* (+23) 10
< 1577283823 961570 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: https://int-e.eu/~bf3/tmp/map.txt is mine
> 1577283827 126024 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Cut14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68212&oldid=62276 5* 03A 5* (+23) 10
> 1577283925 867373 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Finite looping automaton14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68213&oldid=62666 5* 03A 5* (+23) 10
< 1577284005 64072 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fun, there's a list of powers of 2 up to 2^50 in the code :)
> 1577284124 940486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Steps14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68214&oldid=62771 5* 03A 5* (+23) 10
> 1577284146 261200 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Got a match?14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68215&oldid=65348 5* 03A 5* (+23) 10
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> 1577284574 935147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Deadfish 314]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68226&oldid=63615 5* 03A 5* (+23) 10
> 1577284593 697369 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Ruined BASIC14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68227&oldid=63892 5* 03A 5* (+23) 10
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> 1577284691 595576 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07If the question specifies that the number of the words should be less than 3, and the number of words in your answer is larger than 3, your answer is automatically wrong.14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68230&oldid=63687 5* 03A 5* (+23) 10
< 1577284761 958653 :ArthurStrong!~ArthurStr@slow.wreckage.volia.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi all.
> 1577284765 2393 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07EML14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68231&oldid=63782 5* 03A 5* (+32) 10
> 1577284774 669585 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Cyclic Amplification System14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68232&oldid=63747 5* 03A 5* (+23) 10
> 1577284789 522392 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Sign14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68233&oldid=63806 5* 03A 5* (+23) 10
< 1577284875 969504 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Looks like the map is different, and some of the items too. The instant-death (well, end-of-game) ones are the same though.
> 1577284878 667054 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07DerpScrp14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68234&oldid=63888 5* 03A 5* (+31) 10
> 1577284899 493780 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07SLOS14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68235&oldid=63881 5* 03A 5* (+30) 10
> 1577284943 436208 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Cal14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68236&oldid=64199 5* 03A 5* (+23) 10
> 1577284955 150484 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Forks & Forks14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68237&oldid=63949 5* 03A 5* (+23) 10
> 1577285006 20123 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Playlist14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68238&oldid=64241 5* 03A 5* (+23) 10
< 1577285017 814239 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which makes sense since they each have custom code.
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> 1577285170 748497 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07An arch is simply a curve.14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68240&oldid=64660 5* 03A 5* (+25) 10
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> 1577285418 583811 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Multi-Set Manipulator/Smaller14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68245&oldid=65315 5* 03A 5* (+24) 10
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< 1577285441 197516 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 NICK :Lord_of_Life
> 1577285448 107948 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Multi-Set Manipulator/Subset14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68246&oldid=65310 5* 03A 5* (+6) 10
> 1577285508 580521 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Multi-Set Manipulator14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68247&oldid=65237 5* 03A 5* (+23) 10
> 1577285567 998619 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07AutoColdKey14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68248&oldid=65407 5* 03A 5* (+23) 10
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> 1577285824 597504 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Trash14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68256&oldid=65971 5* 03A 5* (+23) 10
> 1577285838 292924 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07GolfSpace14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68257&oldid=66007 5* 03A 5* (+23) 10
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< 1577286048 922071 :A-ee!725fb9c1@114.95.185.193 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://esolangs.org/wiki/Special:MostLinkedPages Got a rank of 7. (Let your Christmas present be the edit-spam)
< 1577286065 131991 :A-ee!725fb9c1@114.95.185.193 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But zzo38 is going to be hard to beat.
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> 1577286398 840584 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Basis14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68271&oldid=66999 5* 03A 5* (+23) 10
< 1577286456 437133 :A-ee!725fb9c1@114.95.185.193 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's nothing more to do and I still didn't beat that user...
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< 1577291025 159188 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.11.215.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :<A-ee> (Let your Christmas present be the edit-spam) => this is funny because there are people who don’t celebrate it at this date
< 1577291046 298232 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.11.215.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :and there is a week still before the new year
< 1577291175 663443 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.11.215.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell imode oh! Haven’t seen that three days ago
< 1577291175 739234 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
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< 1577299085 30892 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I can decode strings but the final check is pretty funky... haven't penetrated it yet. The table of powers of 2 is associated with a division routine.
< 1577299206 765021 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let d (x:xs) = map chr $ zipWith (+) [x..] (take x xs) in d [6,4,3,2,52,51,21]
< 1577299208 914154 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : "\n\n\n== "
< 1577299267 872580 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh and the base register is used as a stack pointer. And there's quite a bit of self-modifying code (for indirect addressing)
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< 1577299335 818360 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah and the map and items are hard-coded in the input, not generated from a seed.
< 1577299346 297373 :shikhout!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shkhn
< 1577300883 719740 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :For vector format, I don't know what Google Keep uses, but I know of some other formats. There is DRAWX vector format, but very few programs support it (only two, as far as I know), and coordinates are integers limited to one thousand only.
< 1577300913 82704 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know if you can try to figure out the Google Keep's format if it has a internal vector format
< 1577301429 209868 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I'm just guessing it has one, because you can select individual parts of the drawing and move/scale them around. But even if there is one, there's no officially sanctioned way to access it that I know of.
< 1577301437 900712 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what software would be good for drawing things freehand with a pen while keeping them editable. I've used Inkscape for vector stuff before, but it might not be that good for that particular purpose.
< 1577301476 788989 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :illustrator?
< 1577301518 77149 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, well, it also needs to work on ChromeOS, because that's my only device that has a pen.
< 1577301573 858509 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, what do you think about moving all trivial brainfuck derivatives into one page
< 1577301592 501470 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we possibly could run a script to move all pages tagged with this tag into one page and create sections with each
< 1577301605 361336 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this amount of them is just making the wiki boring and low-quality
< 1577301618 242909 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Apparently there's an "Adobe Illustrator Draw" for Android though.)
< 1577301626 106306 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know if that would really help that much.
< 1577301677 564677 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not like the number of pages in the wiki matters. But maybe they should be all moved to one section, like how there's the separate joke language list. Not sure if that's so helpful either, though.
< 1577301975 116966 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know how to work a program on ChromeOS
< 1577301990 856071 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know how to write a drawing program on ChromeOS?
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< 1577302650 371726 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sort of. I mean, not in detail. Although these days it can run both Android applications and Linux software in a VM.
> 1577305739 231463 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:User14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68272&oldid=68158 5* 03Hex96 5* (+24) 10
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> 1577306283 20224 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User talk:Hex9614]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68277&oldid=67807 5* 03Hex96 5* (+63) 10
> 1577306318 552809 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User talk:Hex9614]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68278&oldid=68277 5* 03Hex96 5* (+70) 10/* Getting one of my languages on the random language button */
> 1577306355 426913 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User talk:Hex9614]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68279&oldid=68278 5* 03Hex96 5* (+39) 10
> 1577306573 331706 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User talk:Hex9614]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68280&oldid=68279 5* 03Hex96 5* (+38) 10/* Challenge answers */
> 1577306643 869600 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User talk:Hex9614]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68281&oldid=68280 5* 03Hex96 5* (+11) 10/* Challenge answers */
> 1577306822 233343 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07List of quines14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68282&oldid=66425 5* 03Hex96 5* (+36) 10/* Real Quines */
> 1577306947 847140 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07List of quines14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68283&oldid=68282 5* 03Hex96 5* (+13) 10/* Your */
> 1577306970 123181 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07List of quines14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68284&oldid=68283 5* 03Hex96 5* (+0) 10/* Your */
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< 1577309230 453527 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone told me they would make up a web interface for sqlnetnews. My requirement is that the NNTP link is always available even if CSS and JavaScript is disabled. Do you have any other feature suggestions?
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< 1577309430 214089 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :poll: are text inputs and displays a "universal" input method?
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< 1577309524 504329 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think so.
< 1577309547 494373 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/input method/IO method
< 1577310262 405350 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm on the fence about it. I think symbol streams are interesting and somewhat medium-agnostic.
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> 1577311582 428150 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07String rewriting paradigm14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68285&oldid=68202 5* 03Salpynx 5* (-61) 10Page should be renamed to distinguish from proper string rewriting (Shameful?)
> 1577312489 935216 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Or14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68286&oldid=68167 5* 03JonoCode9374 5* (+221) 10/* Implementations */
> 1577312512 915418 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Or14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68287&oldid=68286 5* 03JonoCode9374 5* (+12) 10/* RegExr Regex Expression */
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> 1577312594 448765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Intcode14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68288&oldid=68165 5* 03JonoCode9374 5* (+5285) 10/* Interpreters */
> 1577313028 601109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:JonoCode937414]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68289&oldid=65679 5* 03JonoCode9374 5* (+3660) 10/* About the Languages I've Made */
> 1577313062 820043 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:JonoCode937414]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68290&oldid=68289 5* 03JonoCode9374 5* (+3) 10/* Languages I'm working on */
< 1577313672 480456 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION belatedly eats the season's first nutella ball
< 1577314968 484406 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :We bought some Ferreros Rocher (is that the right plural?), because apparently they're a big thing here.
< 1577314990 980867 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also watched the Queen's Christmas message.)
< 1577315299 964217 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds legit.
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< 1577320092 221812 :paranick!5f6c3884@dhcp95-108-56-132.eaw.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :does some languaes have ratio?
< 1577320120 212240 :paranick!5f6c3884@dhcp95-108-56-132.eaw.com.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :golden mean?
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> 1577330510 764804 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Lingdong 5*  10New user account
> 1577331945 15370 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User talk:JonoCode937414]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68291&oldid=65470 5* 03A 5* (+387) 10
> 1577332200 617507 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User talk:JonoCode937414]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68292&oldid=68291 5* 03A 5* (+385) 10
> 1577332481 43811 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:JonoCode937414]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68293&oldid=68290 5* 03A 5* (+12) 10/* Languages I've Inspired (feel free to add anything I've missed) */ W is inspired by Keg's spirit
> 1577332567 181092 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User talk:JonoCode937414]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68294&oldid=68292 5* 03A 5* (+255) 10/* Please don't recover the examples on Keg (yet) */
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> 1577332885 556183 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07W (A)14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68297&oldid=68296 5* 03A 5* (+342) 10
> 1577333037 963781 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07W (A)14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68298&oldid=68297 5* 03A 5* (+394) 10
> 1577333205 98052 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Wenyan-lang14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=68299 5* 03Ts 5* (+1206) 10Created page with "'''Wenyan-lang''' ('''''') is a language created by [https://github.com/LingDong-/ LingDong-] in 2019. The language is Turing Complete. Wenyan-lang use classical Chinese..."
> 1577333347 508462 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Wenyan-lang14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=68300 5* 03A 5* (+253) 10Created page with "The language is a practical lang, not an esoteric programming language. I don't think it belongs here. --~~~~"
> 1577333366 37248 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Wenyan-lang14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68301&oldid=68299 5* 03Ts 5* (+114) 10
> 1577333400 19763 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07W (A)14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68302&oldid=68298 5* 03A 5* (+0) 10
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> 1577337442 457630 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Chef14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68303&oldid=59961 5* 03Quadril-Is 5* (+0) 10/* Hello, world! in Chef */ The person who made the page stated that it should be Liquefy for some reason.
> 1577337868 34920 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Wenyan-lang14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68304&oldid=68300 5* 03Ts 5* (+389) 10
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< 1577341412 768971 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: So the weight check turns out to be a lexicographic comparison, though obfuscated. So it's always the case that there's either an item that makes you too heavy all by itself, or an item such that all the other items together make you too light... which is basically what I did in my manual approach. So I wasn't all that lucky.
< 1577343005 844146 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Oh and the key is simply the bitmask corresponding to the items selected.
< 1577345292 325777 :Lykaina!~lyka@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello?
< 1577345331 280409 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello
< 1577345345 57940 :Lykaina!~lyka@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :had a nightmare
< 1577345353 372386 :Lykaina!~lyka@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :dog was dying
< 1577345429 492685 :Lykaina!~lyka@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :so shaken up
< 1577345443 269577 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :is your doggo okay?
< 1577345491 599991 :Lykaina!~lyka@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :not exactly gonna call my parents to see if i had a premonition
< 1577345522 553745 :Lykaina!~lyka@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think she's fine
< 1577345537 769903 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :fwiw I think so too.
< 1577345543 426707 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :hate those dreams. are you okay?
< 1577345609 922891 :Lykaina!~lyka@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure...
< 1577345651 691757 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sure your dog is alright. dreams are projections rather than predictions.
< 1577345938 938738 :Lykaina!~lyka@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :i always consider her my dog...even though i moved away a year ago
< 1577345982 998894 :Lykaina!~lyka@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :she's with my parents
< 1577346068 868890 :Lykaina!~lyka@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :she is technically their dog, i was just living with them at the time
< 1577346115 771602 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't stop you from caring about her.
< 1577346389 973683 :Lykaina!~lyka@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :my parents will be pissed if i call at 2:45am
< 1577346429 351131 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you might scare the dog too
< 1577346445 72426 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then wait until the morning if you want to call
< 1577347432 61642 :Lykaina!~lyka@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll go back to my room
< 1577347440 64241 :Lykaina!~lyka@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :brb
< 1577347570 50660 :Lykaina!~lyka@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :back
< 1577347622 158291 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some people have suggested Omnath, Locus of Mana to substitute for mana burn if you need it. However, it doesn't quite work, but something similar can probably be made up in some circumstances.
< 1577347669 181221 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :merry christmas all
< 1577347669 707472 :Lykaina!~lyka@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought mana burn was long gone from the ruleset?
< 1577347683 169981 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it's boxing day in most of the world. but happy boxing day, or something
< 1577347689 758012 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, mana burn is gone from the rules.
< 1577347689 970730 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has no idea what boxing day is about
< 1577347718 457167 :Lykaina!~lyka@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :regifting?
< 1577347799 343010 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :regifting should be encouraged
< 1577347805 735839 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it goes against the consumerist aspect of christmas
< 1577347828 60973 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Yes, I think regifting is good, and I think reusing is good
< 1577347838 713187 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm preparing a gift for my girlfriend, it's an emergency kit containing a mixture of new items, things i already had but want to get rid of, and things I got from other people on a "buy nothing" group
< 1577347877 903649 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That would be good, then
< 1577348058 117645 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have given away many items on the buy-nothing group, and got some good stuff myself (e.g. a nice messenger bag, several hundred USD worth of camping equipment)
< 1577348228 992117 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :increasing aggregate utility through pareto improvements!
< 1577348245 771878 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also like to take things others are throwing away and repair them
< 1577348277 937424 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :for example my friend was getting rid of an electric toothbrush because she broke the plug on the charger base
< 1577348303 195603 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in a rather spectacular accident involving a well known design flaw of American outlets, namely that a piece of metal can fall across the prongs while they are plugged in)
< 1577348316 215159 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, it was simple enough to cut off the plug and solder on a new one
< 1577348335 968940 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't actually want an electric toothbrush for my teeth, but I have used it to clean jewelry
< 1577348448 349547 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then I also accumulate a bunch of things I never get around to fixing, which are eventually thrown away
< 1577348451 408419 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well
< 1577348570 173422 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: If you're interested, here's an annotated (and abridged, when it comes to string data) disassembly of the whole thing I got, https://int-e.eu/~bf3/tmp/aoc25_dis.txt
< 1577348689 803266 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(mnemonics should be self-explanatory except maybe "IBR" for "increment base register)
> 1577348710 258639 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Intcode14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68307&oldid=68288 5* 03Betseg 5* (+34) 10/* Interpreters */
< 1577348827 99199 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you have Omnath with a -1/-1 counter and you have a lot of green manas in your mana pool, then you can get rid of Omnath if you can spend all of the green mana. (It may also be a different color, if Sleight of Mind or a similar effect is used.)
< 1577348839 758077 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you make a puzzle out of that?
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< 1577349653 619527 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: arguably you've just done exactly that
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< 1577355251 871828 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm considering adding a feature to asm2bf
< 1577355256 137406 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I'm looking some feedback
< 1577355266 376751 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/KrzysztofSzewczyk/asmbf/issues/31
< 1577355270 224552 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you think about it?
< 1577355288 514042 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :please @tell me on any chances on making it at least tiny bit usable
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> 1577356334 783330 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User talk:Hex9614]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68314&oldid=68281 5* 03A 5* (+295) 10/* Getting one of my languages on the random language button */
> 1577356430 463719 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Circ14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=68315 5* 03A 5* (+208) 10Created page with "[[Circ]] is an esolang inspired by numbers on the clock. == Syntax == Basically this tries to group a list into equal (or almost-equal) values. Therefore [1, ... 12] gets grou..."
> 1577356522 94707 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Backw14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=68316 5* 03A 5* (+238) 10I gotta make more so that the random click will result in my language.
> 1577356545 259194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Circ14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68317&oldid=68315 5* 03A 5* (+23) 10
> 1577356609 890044 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Flas14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=68318 5* 03A 5* (+201) 10Created page with "[[Flas]] is an esolang invented by [[User:A]] that is theoretically inspired by flashing keyboards. == What it does == For every iteration this language a random bit in the in..."
> 1577356673 876035 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Ref14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=68319 5* 03A 5* (+200) 10Created page with "[[Ref]] is an esolang invented by [[User:A]] that is inspired by the reflection of light on a flat surface. == What it does == * <code>|</code> changes the direction of the co..."
> 1577356728 616943 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Pens14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=68320 5* 03A 5* (+172) 10Created page with "[[Pens]] is an esolang invented by [[User:A]] that is based on the behavior of pen-clicking. == Syntax == * <code>Click x,y</code> click all of the pens in the given range."
> 1577356825 812678 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User talk:Hex9614]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68321&oldid=68314 5* 03A 5* (+151) 10/* Getting one of my languages on the random language button */
< 1577356911 490062 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat
> 1577356969 356577 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Help me!14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=68322 5* 03A 5* (+180) 10Created page with "[[Help me!]] is an esolang invented by [[User:A]] that outputs a specific help string for every language. == Syntax == * <code>Help(language)</code>: Display help for the lang..."
> 1577357055 43895 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Walk14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=68323 5* 03A 5* (+266) 10Created page with "[[Walk]] is an esolang invented by [[User:A]] that deals with how many paths there are in a specific maze. ==Syntax== * <code>#</code>: Defines a walkable area.  So this maze:..."
< 1577357112 615261 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how is that a language?
> 1577357116 338359 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Invoke14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=68324 5* 03A 5* (+184) 10Created page with "[[Invoke]] is an esolang invented by [[User:A]] that consists of invoking non-existing objects that have nothing in them. == Syntax == * <code>I</code>: Invoke the non-existen..."
> 1577357156 728602 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Quack14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=68325 5* 03A 5* (+74) 10Created page with "'''Quack''' is a '''qu'''eue/st'''ack''' language by [[User:A]].  {{stub}}"
< 1577357190 881064 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh, A is being even worse than before
> 1577357261 290857 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07EmojiForth14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=68326 5* 03A 5* (+143) 10Created page with "[[EmojiForth]] is an esolang invented by [[User:A]]. It ''is'' Forth, the only difference is that all of the commands are replaced with emojis."
< 1577357297 833862 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :'Start making at least 100 esolangs (like me), where each esolang involves just a printing to stdout function (those languages are the easiest to make).'
< 1577357303 110795 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-(
> 1577357331 478085 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[072dq14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=68327 5* 03A 5* (+174) 10Created page with "[[2dq]] is a two-dimensional queue-based langauge invented by [[User:A]]. == Commands == * <code>1</code>: Push 1 onto the queue. * <code>^v<></code>: Direction instructions."
< 1577357349 735072 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :most of these entries aren't even languages
> 1577357394 546513 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Esoteric coder14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=68328 5* 03A 5* (+138) 10Created page with "{{stub}} An '''esoteric coder''' would be anyone who codes in an [[esoteric programming language]].  == See also == * [[:Category:People]]"
> 1577357538 962381 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07DASW14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=68329 5* 03A 5* (+241) 10Created page with "[[DASW]] is a [[Brainfuck]] replacement invented by [[User:A]]. == Instructions == * <code>a</code>: Start a while loop all the way to the end of the program. * <code>w</code>..."
> 1577357560 64715 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07DASW14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68330&oldid=68329 5* 03A 5* (+61) 10
< 1577357632 526764 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Once again I'm happy with my decision to filter A-related edits from esowiki's messages. It's still happening, of course, but I don't have to watch it unfolding in real time.
< 1577357669 80983 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, I am more annoyed by the wiki entries themself
> 1577357682 773248 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Typeless14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=68331 5* 03A 5* (+183) 10Created page with "[[Typeless]] is an esolang invented by [[User:A]]. Since it has absolutely no usable types, and the only possible data storage/instruction is variables, Typeless is a useless..."
> 1577357795 357564 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07ROT-014]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=68332 5* 03A 5* (+114) 10Created page with "[[ROT-0]] is an "encryption" algorithm. [[User:A]] decides that this language just copies its input to its output."
> 1577357891 82396 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07TxeT14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=68333 5* 03A 5* (+337) 10Created page with "[[txeT]] is a language created by [[User:A]] which constantly output its reversed source code. This language seems in the same computational class as [[Text]]. Btw, a program..."
> 1577357997 533076 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07REPILF Computer14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=68334 5* 03A 5* (+183) 10Created page with "The REPILF Computer is a computational model made by [[User:A]] with -6 commands. == Instructions == -6 means that you already know all of the instructions in the computationa..."
> 1577358143 973324 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Morsefuck14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68335&oldid=51685 5* 03A 5* (+278) 10
> 1577358218 348632 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Letters++14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=68336 5* 03A 5* (+216) 10Created page with "Maybe incrementing a symbol can be increment its ASCII codepoint? --~~~~"
< 1577358315 161757 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this even somehow moderated?
> 1577358316 522285 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Prelude14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68337&oldid=37077 5* 03A 5* (+206) 10
> 1577358386 307538 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:D1ffe7e45e14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68338&oldid=45915 5* 03A 5* (+193) 10
> 1577358516 215753 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Runespells14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68339&oldid=45183 5* 03A 5* (+211) 10
< 1577358606 143534 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :We have wiki admins, but not around the clock.
< 1577358618 362628 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay
> 1577359577 695398 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Wenyan-lang14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68340&oldid=68313 5* 03Ts 5* (+407) 10
> 1577360240 773415 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Esolang:Sandbox14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68341&oldid=68022 5* 03A 5* (+13) 10
> 1577360347 924758 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Esolang:Sandbox14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68342&oldid=68341 5* 03A 5* (-1) 10
> 1577360616 882454 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Esolang:Sandbox14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68343&oldid=68342 5* 03A 5* (+17) 10
> 1577360647 541944 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Esolang:Sandbox14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68344&oldid=68343 5* 03A 5* (+2) 10
> 1577360682 8372 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Esolang:Sandbox14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68345&oldid=68344 5* 03A 5* (+11) 10
> 1577360708 731098 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Esolang:Sandbox14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68346&oldid=68345 5* 03A 5* (+10) 10
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> 1577361009 359268 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Works in progress14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68347&oldid=62785 5* 03A 5* (-82) 103var: latest commit = 2015 Zahlen: the author stopped expanding it at a useless subset.
> 1577361180 698780 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Works in progress14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68348&oldid=68347 5* 03A 5* (-109) 10Gotta continue removing some very old (or development-complete) languages
> 1577361307 248470 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Works in progress14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68349&oldid=68348 5* 03A 5* (-62) 10By this I mean if the latest commit of the wiki page is before (or is at) 2015, it is abandoned.
> 1577361616 26496 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Works in progress14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68350&oldid=68349 5* 03A 5* (-339) 10
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> 1577361653 888421 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Works in progress14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68351&oldid=68350 5* 03A 5* (-24) 10
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> 1577362046 234559 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User talk:A14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68352&oldid=68153 5* 03A 5* (+151) 10
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< 1577363973 942618 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Urgh.
> 1577364039 442297 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User talk:A14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68353&oldid=68352 5* 03Fizzie 5* (+12942) 10Reverted edits by [[Special:Contributions/A|A]] ([[User talk:A|talk]]) to last revision by [[User:Ais523|Ais523]]
< 1577364051 816361 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And that was a misclick.
> 1577364112 528983 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User talk:A14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68354&oldid=68353 5* 03Fizzie 5* (-12942) 10Undo revision 68353 by [[Special:Contributions/Fizzie|Fizzie]] ([[User talk:Fizzie|talk]]) -- sorry, MediaWiki UI is confusing.
< 1577364123 420461 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fortunately I don't think it really matters what's on that specific page.
< 1577364141 198514 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure what to call those "languages". It's unfortunate they got so obsessed about having the most-linked userpage.
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< 1577365293 515136 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh is that their goal... meh.
< 1577365316 221891 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, that, and getting the random page to land on one of theirs. At least that's my impression.
< 1577365356 576127 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I got that. I even quited something to that effect earlier (from a comment they left on another User's page)
< 1577365450 30360 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :See here, https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68321&oldid=68281
< 1577365566 818525 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Something else I find odd is, their signatures seem to have the "this comment by A; please sign your comments" bit, even though it looks like they're signing them as usual.)
< 1577365585 242690 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :They've been signing like that for a while now.
< 1577365606 733723 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's just another way of causing irritation.
< 1577365651 979029 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it's just that from the edit summaries -- https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=68336 for example -- it sure sounded like it was just a normal --~~~~ that they did.
< 1577365698 232603 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't want to think about it.
< 1577365721 243493 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, I think I removed createpage and createtalk rights from them. Maybe. MediaWiki is hard. Going to have to make some comments about it now, I guess.
< 1577365782 220079 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does that cover moving pages? (Or maybe they lost those rights earlier... hmm.)
< 1577366253 655113 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know. Removed "move" as well. I'm not too hopeful this approach to administration will actually work, though.
> 1577366353 529868 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User talk:A14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68355&oldid=68354 5* 03Fizzie 5* (+470) 10/* Spam pages */ New section.
< 1577366613 320354 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry in advance for the upcoming spam, I'm pretty sure Extension:Nuke will still report edits individually in here.
> 1577366756 526604 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 delete10 02 5* 03Fizzie 5*  10deleted "[[02REPILF Computer10]]": Cleaning up recent no-content stubs from [[Special:Contributions/A|A]].
> 1577366756 534128 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 delete10 02 5* 03Fizzie 5*  10deleted "[[02TxeT10]]": Cleaning up recent no-content stubs from [[Special:Contributions/A|A]].
> 1577366756 539700 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 delete10 02 5* 03Fizzie 5*  10deleted "[[02ROT-010]]": Cleaning up recent no-content stubs from [[Special:Contributions/A|A]].
> 1577366756 545948 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 delete10 02 5* 03Fizzie 5*  10deleted "[[02Typeless10]]": Cleaning up recent no-content stubs from [[Special:Contributions/A|A]].
> 1577366756 555652 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 delete10 02 5* 03Fizzie 5*  10deleted "[[02DASW10]]": Cleaning up recent no-content stubs from [[Special:Contributions/A|A]].
> 1577366756 563941 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 delete10 02 5* 03Fizzie 5*  10deleted "[[022dq10]]": Cleaning up recent no-content stubs from [[Special:Contributions/A|A]].
> 1577366756 571451 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 delete10 02 5* 03Fizzie 5*  10deleted "[[02EmojiForth10]]": Cleaning up recent no-content stubs from [[Special:Contributions/A|A]].
> 1577366756 577395 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 delete10 02 5* 03Fizzie 5*  10deleted "[[02Quack10]]": Cleaning up recent no-content stubs from [[Special:Contributions/A|A]].
> 1577366756 582667 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 delete10 02 5* 03Fizzie 5*  10deleted "[[02Invoke10]]": Cleaning up recent no-content stubs from [[Special:Contributions/A|A]].
> 1577366756 589625 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 delete10 02 5* 03Fizzie 5*  10deleted "[[02Walk10]]": Cleaning up recent no-content stubs from [[Special:Contributions/A|A]].
> 1577366756 598611 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 delete10 02 5* 03Fizzie 5*  10deleted "[[02Help me!10]]": Cleaning up recent no-content stubs from [[Special:Contributions/A|A]].
> 1577366756 604863 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 delete10 02 5* 03Fizzie 5*  10deleted "[[02Pens10]]": Cleaning up recent no-content stubs from [[Special:Contributions/A|A]].
> 1577366756 610999 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 delete10 02 5* 03Fizzie 5*  10deleted "[[02Ref10]]": Cleaning up recent no-content stubs from [[Special:Contributions/A|A]].
> 1577366756 617938 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 delete10 02 5* 03Fizzie 5*  10deleted "[[02Flas10]]": Cleaning up recent no-content stubs from [[Special:Contributions/A|A]].
> 1577366756 624042 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 delete10 02 5* 03Fizzie 5*  10deleted "[[02Backw10]]": Cleaning up recent no-content stubs from [[Special:Contributions/A|A]].
> 1577366756 629642 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 delete10 02 5* 03Fizzie 5*  10deleted "[[02Circ10]]": Cleaning up recent no-content stubs from [[Special:Contributions/A|A]].
< 1577366795 143996 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Weren't that many of them after all.
< 1577366876 410651 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Those were just the recent super-spammy ones. I know there's many many more from earlier, but at least they look a little bit more like content.0
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< 1577367213 328634 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :In related news, I'm not sure it's great to have that Intcode interpreter right there on the page.
< 1577367238 386123 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't like it there either.
< 1577367324 787779 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I don't want to simply remove it... I guess we could have an Intcode/Interpreters page?
< 1577367363 344710 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess the problem is, there isn't really an obvious place to host code that you just want to share for esolangs.org purposes but don't want to have a, say, GitHub repo for under your own account.
< 1577367380 359577 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That might work. MediaWiki still isn't the best thing for code, but at least it's not in the middle of the article that way.
< 1577367400 111093 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, let's see if I can move this content without accident :)
< 1577367437 259321 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do we have subpages enabled for main namespace in the first place? 
< 1577367461 198857 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Although I guess it doesn't really matter all that much whether it's an official subpage or not.)
< 1577367517 972326 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think they act as subpages, no.
< 1577367564 34962 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, probably none of the subpage features are that critical anyway.
> 1577367582 38470 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Intcode/Interpreters14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=68356 5* 03Int-e 5* (+5381) 10Moving Python interpreter from main language page.
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> 1577367804 131721 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Intcode14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68357&oldid=68307 5* 03Int-e 5* (-5338) 10[snip]
< 1577367953 753742 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: How do you feel about mnemonics for Intcode? Maybe if we can agree on a set... I was using  ADD, MUL, IN, OUT, JNZ, JZ, SLT, SEQ, IBR, and STOP. Also #nnn for mode 1, and B+nnn and B-nnn for mode 2...
< 1577368031 949260 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Which clearly shows my Intel assembly background. With Motorola I'd be using B instead of J)
< 1577368158 896722 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was using add, mul, in, out, jnz, jz, setlt, seteq, setb and halt.
< 1577368196 180897 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess AT&T would use b(nnn) for the base register use?
< 1577368211 443211 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm actually not sure.
< 1577368243 806152 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, "setb" is not logical.
< 1577368248 632911 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, agreed.
< 1577368270 176100 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :For the opcodes, I think I prefer 'halt' over 'stop'; I find 'setb' illogical as well; and I don't have an opinion for slt/setlt, seq/seteq.
< 1577368308 803708 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've thought about "addb", "incb", "advb" before going for the three-letter (but obscure) "IBR".
< 1577368320 785889 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :For operands, I was also first using #nnn for immediate and B+nnn and B-nnn for base-relative, but when I started considering labels, thought the "B" in something that looks like an expression but is actually special might be a little confusing. So I switched to nnn for immediate, *nnn for position mode, and @nnn for relative mode.
< 1577368397 685022 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh and I'm not sure how "relative base" became "base register" (and hence BR rather than RB) in my mind.
< 1577368519 450538 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, I imagined having a syntax like: "foo: add [bar:X], *[baz:Y], @[zuul:Z]" for what'd essentially be the instruction "add X, *Y, @Z" but with labels for all the four locations.
< 1577368552 669651 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fancy
< 1577368586 879214 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thought it'd be nicer than "foo: add X, *Y, @Z" and manually using foo+1, foo+2, foo+3.
< 1577368736 480648 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :In fact, wrote up http://ix.io/25xa as a potential syntax but then got sidetracked reading about parser generators.
< 1577368770 971717 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Looks like I was thinking of using mov, j, jlt and jeq as pseudo-ops as well.)
< 1577369024 741147 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :The AoC code is funny in that regard.
< 1577369068 747426 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The only one I disassembled properly seemed to be using "add x, 0, y" and "mul x, 1, y" about equally often.
< 1577369077 365422 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :j uses one of jz #0 or jnz #1, seemingly at random, and for mov it uses both  add src, #0, dst and  mul src, #1, dst
< 1577369094 956179 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I was thinking the pseudo-ops would pseudorandomly select one of the possible expansions.
< 1577369110 371287 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"That's why they're called pseudo-ops!"
< 1577369173 507802 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suspect the author actually has a higher level language implemented... maybe a minimal C dialect (in particular I suspect whatever language it is has a ternary conditional operator on the expression level.)
< 1577369197 809089 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is my impression from the adventure game.
< 1577369222 227771 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :FWIW, I do like # for immediate, just thought it'd be better to have a sigil for (pos, rel) instead of (imm, rel), after abandoing the B+ / B- approach.
< 1577369307 965095 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :42(%rb)
< 1577369346 776592 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm still trying to remember the AT&T vaersion)
< 1577369375 935443 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I think it'd be that.
< 1577369512 38692 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess @ is fine after a short period of adapting to it.
< 1577369626 858895 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Incidentally, while I still haven't redone all of these in Go, for the set I do have (1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 11 18 19 22), it takes the Python side 14 seconds to run through all of them, but 0.4s for the Go bunch.
< 1577369665 194171 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm changing my IBR to INCB and STOP to HALT. I like having short mnemonics so I'm sticking with SLT and SEQ.
< 1577369678 214568 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :We agreed on the rest :)
< 1577369807 616282 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that's perfectly reasonable.
< 1577369905 63861 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably the only reason I went with SETLT/SETEQ is because of Intel's SETcc, but those would be SETL and SETE instead of SETLT and SETEQ anyway.
< 1577369941 931843 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Maybe there should be a "Proposed assembly syntax" section on the Intcode page, though.)
< 1577369985 128928 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah that was the idea.
> 1577371416 154189 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Intcode14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68358&oldid=68357 5* 03Int-e 5* (+1014) 10/* Proposed Assembly Syntax */ new section.
> 1577371578 458993 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Intcode14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68359&oldid=68358 5* 03Int-e 5* (+15) 10/* Proposed Assembly Syntax */ oh, EBNF wants semicolons
< 1577371640 609036 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: ^^ it's a start
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< 1577373363 517380 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :LGTM
> 1577374261 3332 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07End14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=68360 5* 03Hex96 5* (+309) 10Created page with "End is an esolang by [[User:Hex96|Hex]]. They forgot how it works and lost the interpreter. They made a hello world program and a truth machine  Hello world <pre> 101001010011..."
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< 1577377678 536891 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://esolangs.org/wiki/Muppp
< 1577377680 963714 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this looks entertaining
< 1577377692 742061 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it lacks both the interpreter
< 1577377708 251267 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the brainfuck -> this transpiler I fancy writing
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< 1577386229 578462 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :has somebody yet invented an algorithm
< 1577386237 97492 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for generating multiplication loops?
< 1577386279 627855 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in form of (ax+)[>(bx+)<-](cx+ / cx-)
< 1577386454 224149 :bunnyocto!b2c5e4bc@178.197.228.188 PRIVMSG #esoteric :puh. how do I explain what a zip is?
< 1577386674 891373 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :file containing other files?
< 1577386938 212758 :imode-ruby!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :stitching files together with a note saying what file is what.
< 1577387007 269262 :bunnyocto!b2c5e4bc@178.197.228.188 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@type zip
< 1577387008 402704 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :[a] -> [b] -> [(a, b)]
< 1577387010 525337 :bunnyocto!b2c5e4bc@178.197.228.188 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this zip
< 1577387164 151179 :imode-ruby!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. explain to them how a zipper works.
< 1577387201 777494 :imode-ruby!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have list A, and list B, and something that interleaves the two, such that elements of A and elements of B become interleaved, with elements of A coming first, then elements of B, etc.
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< 1577391549 980034 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :"take two arrays of the same length, and return an array of pairs with each pair containing each successive element of the input arrays" perhaps?
< 1577391597 558159 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :could use "producing an association list" as a motivating example
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> 1577393199 530704 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07End14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68366&oldid=68362 5* 03JonoCode9374 5* (+0) 10Tiring complete sounds exhausting! :P
< 1577393218 199777 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i woul probably explain zipWith first and zip as a kind of "i don't have a function so here are just you values" version of it
< 1577393483 540292 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds reasonable too, yeah
< 1577393498 927408 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :and zipWith is probably quite easy to explain by analogy to map
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< 1577395026 905550 :bunnyocto!b2c5e4bc@178.197.228.188 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zip is just zipWith pair
< 1577395064 165593 :bunnyocto!b2c5e4bc@178.197.228.188 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's a great idea
< 1577395068 384666 :bunnyocto!b2c5e4bc@178.197.228.188 PRIVMSG #esoteric :explaining zip through zipWith.
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< 1577396237 543739 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now they invented "Naive Image Format", although I think that Farbfeld is better. Their own comment is: "Configurability is admittedly a trade-off: one person's configuration parameter is another person's unnecessary bloat. We're not saying that Farbfeld is a bad design, just a different design that has chosen different trade-offs."
< 1577396279 73778 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :My own opinion of that is that this configurability is unsuitable for some purposes, and is insufficient for other purposes, so that doesn't make so much sense to me.
< 1577398243 651340 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There may be sometimes the case where you will want to use premultiplied and sometimes not, but in a format such as this it is probably not useful since that would complicate the implementation, and instead is better that sometimes you may want to reinterpret existing data as premultiplied or not, or something more generalized. That is independent of the file format, and of most filters, too.
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< 1577400884 993940 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The "K" in "CMYK" stands for "key" or "black". Either way works, but which usage is older?
< 1577400991 693427 :Frater_EST!adrianbibl@172.242.0.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Without looking at outside information, I would state that self-evidently K is a sign for Key primarily.
< 1577401353 859509 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wikipedia says the K is "key[citation needed]", while in PostScript the name /Black is used to refer to the K component of CMYK colours.
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< 1577402286 29192 :Frater_EST!~adrianbib@172.242.0.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38 I think you are asking the wrong question, why is the K used, and not B? Black IS "Key" because that is its function, K is Key because the K is the first letter of the word.   
< 1577402321 519979 :Frater_EST!~adrianbib@172.242.0.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So when you ask "Which usage is older" - the question has an embedded category error because neither usage is older. The K has always been Key has always been Black?
< 1577402439 279491 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean whether whoever made the name "CMYK" intended the "K" to stand for "key" or "black".
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< 1577402499 994664 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`asmbf amp r1
< 1577402501 880038 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​+>+[#
< 1577402512 955628 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Duh, an old version 
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< 1577403358 874603 :Frater_EST!~adrianbib@172.242.0.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38 What I am getting at is your framing for inquiry is likely incorrect: K stands for Key, this is directly self-evident that the letter "K" is used and not "B".
< 1577403367 186056 :Frater_EST!~adrianbib@172.242.0.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Black ALSO - IS Key, they are the same thing. And are meant to be the same thing from the get-go.
< 1577403373 755373 :Frater_EST!~adrianbib@172.242.0.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nor is it arbitrary, such that for example, Green could be "K".
< 1577403381 193023 :Frater_EST!~adrianbib@172.242.0.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The context for choice is based on the qualitative relationships of color and the relevant field is "Color Theory".
< 1577403387 676803 :Frater_EST!~adrianbib@172.242.0.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :To simplify: Black is the "Key" for an analogous reason that 0 is the start of a number line and not "Infinity". 
< 1577403417 97644 :Frater_EST!~adrianbib@172.242.0.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Black is the perceptual phenomenon resulting from the "Lack" of colors, subtracting other color qualities.
< 1577403420 220644 :Frater_EST!~adrianbib@172.242.0.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Make sense?
< 1577403562 284227 :Frater_EST!~adrianbib@172.242.0.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you have "White" which is the background, and "All Colors" perceptually imposing such that none are individually distinguishable. Then the sign has to be a contrast. Black as opposite is the "Key" color from which you can gain orientation on a scale, then you pick a set of colors (CYM) as choices between this binary.
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< 1577404799 751463 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How to display subtitles on Raspberry Pi? It says there are two subtitles, but when I try to display them, the subtitles are not visible (although the message that says which subtitles are selected is visible)
> 1577404976 702058 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03EthanPixelate 5*  10New user account
< 1577405094 984756 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also how to configure the skip amount by pushing the arrows?
> 1577405426 342455 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68367&oldid=68130 5* 03EthanPixelate 5* (+468) 10
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< 1577407432 555334 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should there be a "languages with unknown working" category? There are some on esolang wiki.
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< 1577414017 748648 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you restrict thue's rule space to 3 symbols on the LHS and RHS, is it still turing complete?
< 1577414087 796533 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is also assuming a binary alphabet.
< 1577414117 280559 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess yes, because you can construct rule 110 from that...?
< 1577414374 189052 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think black is K because B was already blue, as in RGB
< 1577414380 868778 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure there's anything more to it
< 1577414392 205173 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :never heard of it meaning "key"
< 1577414417 907406 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i'm not an expert in the field
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< 1577416587 696025 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there such a thing as a X server in PostScript?
< 1577416629 111544 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That would allow you to print vector graphics from any X client.
< 1577416683 886302 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A book I got mentions using PostScript for printing, although they just describe their program generating a PostScript code and then telling the system to print; they also say they could instead generate vector graphics and generate those PostScript codes instead.
< 1577416702 891282 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: you should look at NeWS.
< 1577416715 265191 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :display postscript and all that.
< 1577416760 667560 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But other ways would be to write a PostScript program to parse the file format used, or to use a PostScript-based X server.
< 1577416800 292962 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :imode: I saw NeWS, but I think that PostScript is not a very good document format or protocol, but PostScript is OK as a programming language.
< 1577416839 385337 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And anyways it seem that NeWS is not X.
< 1577417087 895241 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I don't really like the pie menus either)
< 1577418347 103763 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can only see a 3-length binary string rewriting system as being TC if it's used to implement Rule 110. can't see any other way.
< 1577418640 246470 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you even do that? I mean you can implement the rules just fine, but you lose all the synchronicity.
< 1577418694 149762 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :In fact, since the transitions overlap... it's not obvious how to make a CA.
< 1577418695 922736 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you assume a priority order, sure.
< 1577418717 909148 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least I think..
< 1577418774 494862 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's also noteworthy that you operate on an infinite (to both sides) string here, so you're outside the string rewriting formalism anyway.
< 1577418891 796485 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(but that can be worked around; things like termination can still be undecidable for length-preserving string rewriting systems)
< 1577418990 656779 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess my real question is: given Thue, limit the string length for the LHS and RHS to some constant value, and limit the alphabet to binary. what's the smallest length that still makes the resulting variant turing complete.
< 1577419192 294680 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm. probably too hard to answer ;)
< 1577419213 696984 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's an interesting idea, though.
< 1577419249 442231 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :65536 systems for length 2; 2^2^(2n) for length n.
< 1577419275 643810 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then you have to decide on a question for "TC".
< 1577419327 13823 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(FWIW, I don't really accept the notion that rule 110 is TC. It embeds too much information in the starting configuration for my taste.)
< 1577419353 446556 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least with the proof we have.
< 1577419379 76737 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah... I'm kind of in the same boat.
< 1577419449 776933 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :The (related) problem with length-preserving SRSs is that if you fix a starting string then it has only finitely many successors, and that makes pretty much every question you might ask about that (termination, reachability of a particular string, even stuff like confluence, weak normalization, and so forth) decidable.
< 1577419469 46286 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :So the question you ask somehow has to allow strings of unbounded length.
< 1577419495 684526 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have any reservations about that.
< 1577419503 115818 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :like "is there a string that doesn't terminate"
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< 1577420460 212957 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello onejar!
< 1577421990 531690 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :moint-e
< 1577422018 784579 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm morning tea
> 1577423644 2378 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Human Resource Code14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=68369 5* 03EthanPixelate 5* (+2950) 10Created page with "'''Human Resource Code''' is an esolang based off a game called [https://tomorrowcorporation.com/humanresourcemachine Human Resource Machine]. The only commands used are those..."
< 1577424641 613491 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :xkcd updating early, what is this magic
< 1577424687 602965 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( it's always possible i just missed the previous one. )
< 1577424757 704261 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems a bit off season... unless Randall's gone Australian.
> 1577424765 568887 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Human Resource Code14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68370&oldid=68369 5* 03EthanPixelate 5* (+1518) 10
> 1577424836 907963 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Human Resource Code14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68371&oldid=68370 5* 03EthanPixelate 5* (+3) 10/* Carpet Manipulation */
< 1577425214 955618 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: not enough fires to be australian hth
< 1577425243 756271 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although dmm seems to have stopped twittering about it, so maybe they stopped
< 1577425352 828048 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :from what I'm reading they haven't. they have slowed down a little thanks to a bit of rain and less wind.
< 1577425429 744082 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah.
> 1577425505 697525 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Human Resource Code14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68372&oldid=68371 5* 03EthanPixelate 5* (+381) 10
> 1577425714 850422 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Human Resource Code14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68373&oldid=68372 5* 03EthanPixelate 5* (+2) 10/* Jumping and Controlled Flow */
> 1577426479 479121 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:EthanPixelate14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=68374 5* 03EthanPixelate 5* (+38) 10Created page with "I am potato :D  ,---. \___/ ^ | potato"
> 1577426563 576674 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:EthanPixelate14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68375&oldid=68374 5* 03EthanPixelate 5* (-20) 10
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> 1577426929 401575 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Human Resource Code14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68376&oldid=68373 5* 03EthanPixelate 5* (+200) 10
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> 1577427349 273868 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Human Resource Code14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68377&oldid=68376 5* 03EthanPixelate 5* (+0) 10/* Jumping and Controlled Flow */
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> 1577429587 304820 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Human Resource Code14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68378&oldid=68377 5* 03EthanPixelate 5* (+85) 10/* Basic IO */
> 1577429914 143198 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Human Resource Code14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68379&oldid=68378 5* 03EthanPixelate 5* (+0) 10/* Introduction */
< 1577431012 523021 :Lykaina!~lyka@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi
< 1577431085 535976 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello
< 1577431092 835442 :Lykaina!~lyka@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :i had a realy scary nightmare last night and i think i'm afraid to fall asleep
< 1577431117 868000 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::(
> 1577431148 779623 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Human Resource Code14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68380&oldid=68379 5* 03EthanPixelate 5* (+335) 10
> 1577431171 560850 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Human Resource Code14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68381&oldid=68380 5* 03EthanPixelate 5* (-1) 10/* Example Programs */
< 1577431173 497967 :Lykaina!~lyka@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :i moved bedding to my sofa
< 1577431223 780249 :Lykaina!~lyka@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :guess i'm trying to sabotage sleeping
< 1577431262 833086 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could try sleeping on the sofa
< 1577431279 632084 :Lykaina!~lyka@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :too late at night to move it back to my bed
< 1577431290 33686 :Lykaina!~lyka@unaffiliated/schrodingerscat PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, yeah
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> 1577432595 414263 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Human Resource Code14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68382&oldid=68381 5* 03EthanPixelate 5* (+1270) 10/* Example Programs */
< 1577432949 480848 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh we seem to have lost shachaf.
< 1577433633 266195 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? goto
< 1577433636 82545 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :goto? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1577433696 929389 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn GOTO is just one step removed from going to hell.
< 1577433699 385061 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'goto': GOTO is just one step removed from going to hell.
< 1577433995 393274 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, there was some display postscript extension for x on sourceforge long ago, i dunno if it ever was completed or any real programs really used it;   i think proprietary unices might have shipped a real thing by default (sun? hpux? vms? irix? i dunno) ...  i assume it was meant to be "compatible" to display such clients on a "free" x server (i.e. on a non-proprietary unix) but i could be way off
< 1577434011 847679 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :AFAIK it died and was never really used, so you might to google and archive.org to find it
< 1577434045 548554 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i vaguely recall it was related to the xprint extension, but also could be way off
< 1577434054 754690 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which im not sure anyone really uses/used that either
< 1577434149 491554 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont think it was meant to be compatible with nextstep/openstep non-x stuff, but there was some speculation e.g. gnustep might be curious too use it;     i assume they are/were somewhat use to aim with source-compatible with such apps, but how that manifested/manifests re: display servers i have no idea
< 1577434170 447504 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Display Postscript is ancient (oh but I didn't remember that it originated with NeXT)... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Display_PostScript
< 1577434186 230415 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fun.
< 1577434189 498880 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(ns/os display postscript i mean);  ns/os you could run x servers too, but i dont believe there was really a "bridge" to/from the DPS stuff, although you could run "rootless" somewhat
< 1577434245 976817 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cube x window x server for nextstep/openstep is free license nowadays :)  iso download i believe
< 1577434255 189971 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it supports 3 or 4 arches
< 1577434259 640934 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :been awhile 
< 1577434270 280207 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :To my mind it's one of those "next big things" that never materialized.
< 1577434311 321473 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably killed by 3D graphics.
< 1577434334 215169 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tru64 or dgux also might have been the thing that had display postscript x extension :/   
< 1577434343 508554 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dunno, maybe for same cad program or something :/
< 1577434358 713142 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think 3D graphics (and other fancy graphics) are overused
< 1577434363 778817 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so this x extension i think was meant to be compatible with that, and not the nextstep/openstep stuff
< 1577434407 292260 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can still use external PostScript interpreter, such as Ghostscript so you can still use Ghostscript to display PostScript graphics on a X window
< 1577434475 518971 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But as far as I know, Ghostscript does not provide any way to read X events, nor can the X drawing functions be used in PostScript
< 1577434612 413103 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ns/os  is one of the things i dont think ive ever seen a vnc server for;  client, but not server;   i believe there are "drivers" for e.g. vmware, but im not sure of any good remote display  (although qemu vnc server might suffice)
< 1577434612 633179 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's only appropriate. Ghosts generally have trouble interacting with their environment.
< 1577434685 243256 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Standard I/O still works, but it doesn't have X events.
< 1577434704 604373 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, some forum at least one person was trying to hack a darwin kernel to "backport", and i think they got this frankenstein booting at least, so maybe there will slowly be some up to date "ports",  lack of proper posix is a killer
< 1577434724 925090 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Even so, PostScript graphics are best for printing rather than on screen, since PostScript uses printer fonts rather than screen fonts)
< 1577434728 546750 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i believe its all legal, not stolen source or anything..... just very.....frankensteinish
< 1577434763 309986 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and theres a next emulator or two now too, to emulate the next hardware, so there are sort of some people still doing stuff
< 1577434773 464403 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are just vewwy vewwy quiet
< 1577434863 976689 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is also possible to write programs that embed Ghostscript; such as, TeXnicard embeds Ghostscript and SQLite, but uses the TeX fonts rather than PostScript fonts. It isn't very clear how to work separations when using the Ghostscript "display" device though; do you know how?
< 1577434915 318395 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hope you arent asking me, i play with oses; programming is another story :/
< 1577434954 533191 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, OK. Which oses you play with?
< 1577434990 541764 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :anything i can get my grubby hands on;  i dont have much hardware nowadays, just cheap x86 stuff;   the one thing i cant find an emualtor for is beos ppc, no powerpc emulator that i have found will run it
< 1577435012 497362 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(TeXnicard is written half in C, half in SQL, and half in PostScript. It does not embed TeX but does use its font formats and some of its algorithms.)
< 1577435075 374024 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone in ##electronics said they are writing an sgi indy emulator, qemu is too slow
< 1577435084 825845 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kindoffrance: I have not used many operating systems, but have used emulation of some systems, including 6502
< 1577435101 671446 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that perhaps is i used to have real hw, but never had time to play with
< 1577435109 387976 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so he is doing penance for my sins of losing that hw
< 1577435113 422146 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in my mind
< 1577435126 151771 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Well, TeXnicard includes PCRE as well)
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< 1577435182 980548 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess alpha emulators dont like windows nt, but that doesnt particularly interest me
< 1577435212 904683 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Once I worked it enough would you or someone to try to make templates to render Magic: the Gathering cards and other card games with TeXnicard?
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< 1577435235 552015 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :im not a tex guy other than lyx :)
< 1577435254 126657 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is rare i have do someting that looks nice
< 1577435406 73404 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think TeX is a good typesetting system (for when you want text, rather than graphics; for graphics, PostScript is better), and wrote my own DVI driver that reads the DVI and PK fonts and converts it into the rasterized format.
< 1577435454 980319 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :However, TeXnicard does not actually use TeX (it implements some of its algorithms and file formats itself) (although METAFONT is recommended, but not technically strictly required); it uses SQL and PostScript.
< 1577435480 254946 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you do not need to know how to program in TeX to use TeXnicard.
< 1577435490 101993 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you make up your own Magic: the Gathering cards?
< 1577435494 300351 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Sometimes I do.)
< 1577435529 989173 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was never part of such things, other than rpg video games vaguely reminescent/relate
< 1577435532 669838 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/related
< 1577435543 594312 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. some of the final fantasy games added cards eventually
< 1577435591 840910 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(You might wonder why it is called TeXnicard if it does not use TeX. I suppose the relation of TeXnicard to TeX is about as much as TeXmacs is to TeX; TeXmacs doesn't use TeX either.)
< 1577435596 702124 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dunno about modern stuff if they kept such things as a "side game" type thing
< 1577435868 596506 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think if you are making your own cards that is probably more in the spirit of such things
< 1577435898 655635 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"purists" probably hate people who do such, but so long as they are not blatant ripoffs, it probably shows you understand the "mechanics" or "substance" of things
< 1577435923 835994 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have to have some understanding to do such things i mean, or at least well
< 1577435982 427963 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lots of people hated many f.f. and square "3d remakes" and re-scores (music), but really, that to me is kind of what they wouldve done had they better hardware than e.g. snes
< 1577436041 276960 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :some people just dont like anyone touching their favorite thing, even the same company who made it, but as long as it is in the spirit of things, it doesnt bother me
< 1577436223 79240 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :its totally different if e.g. you are selling stuff commercially, then i would say stay far away from such things
< 1577436234 279806 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :for many reasons, not just "fan acceptance"
< 1577436275 896060 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :trademark issues
< 1577436331 252415 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats the beauty of my nick; so long as there is no competition i am scot free
< 1577436350 31133 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you dont want to mess with people who have not abandoned their throne
< 1577436971 670206 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the other beauty is i will probably never go to france, so in exile i am safer
< 1577437018 720193 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course if I make up the card, is unofficial. It is not meant to be used in official tournament. Many other people also make up such unofficial card
< 1577437048 438656 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(These unofficial cards is not meant to be sold commercially either)
< 1577438583 591089 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never got the populatory of mtg tbh. I know it has been around for quite a while, but imo there are better competitive card games
< 1577438638 829799 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yu-gi-oh ruined some of those, though
< 1577440459 390680 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sometimes you might want to construct puzzles out of nonstandard cards (like how sometimes they construct puzzles out of nonstandard chess pieces), so in such cases you might use names such as #1 and #2 and so on, and then list the text of the nonstandard cards with the puzzle.
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< 1577449582 397528 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how were the brainfuck constants on wiki generatede?
< 1577449746 755191 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I imagine brute force? enumerate all programs up to a certain length and run them to conclusion (up to some number of steps), then check the tape for numbers?
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> 1577452972 823109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Ral14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=68384 5* 03Herman-L 5* (+2892) 10Created page with "Ral is a stack-based random-access esoteric language created by Code Golf and Coding Challenges user [https://codegolf.stackexchange.com/users/70894/ Herman-L].  == Descriptio..."
> 1577453439 359124 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Ral14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68385&oldid=68384 5* 03Herman-L 5* (+408) 10Add sample code
> 1577453585 533489 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68386&oldid=68034 5* 03Herman-L 5* (+10) 10Add Ral
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> 1577456516 854659 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68387&oldid=68383 5* 03Aliu0130 5* (+280) 10/* Introductions */
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> 1577462425 6971 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User talk:Truttle114]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=68389 5* 03Hex96 5* (+75) 10Created page with "hey truttle, can your next vid be about one of my esolangs, [[Muppp]]? Thx."
> 1577463141 23112 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07A very long language name that is very weird and yeah, this is your but its this14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=68390 5* 03Hex96 5* (+204) 10Created page with "A very long language name that is very weird and yeah, this is your but its this is [[Your]] but every Your is replaced by A very long language name that is very weird and yea..."
> 1577463166 375422 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Hex9614]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68391&oldid=68363 5* 03Hex96 5* (+87) 10
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> 1577463460 987578 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68393&oldid=68392 5* 03Hex96 5* (+23) 10/* T */
> 1577463490 210049 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68394&oldid=68393 5* 03Hex96 5* (+12) 10/* M */
> 1577464023 955274 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68395&oldid=68394 5* 03Hex96 5* (+11) 10/* U */
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> 1577465013 362318 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68396&oldid=68387 5* 03Pppery 5* (+159) 10/* Introductions */
> 1577465111 975322 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Intcode14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68397&oldid=68359 5* 03Pppery 5* (+0) 10/* Evolution */  Relative mode wasn't actually introduced until Day 9
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< 1577470097 414610 :rain1!~debian@unaffiliated/rain1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello
< 1577470103 71354 :rain1!~debian@unaffiliated/rain1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :recommend any new nonfiction books?
< 1577470287 54175 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :on what subject
< 1577470680 726863 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have question relating to quantum entanglement. Will the "backward in time" model work? If two experimenters far away from each other make the same measurement and have the opposite answer, then they are, from the point of view from each other, backward in time to the source and then forward to the other one, in the other direction.
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< 1577471466 357493 :rain1!~debian@unaffiliated/rain1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :any subjects kmc 
< 1577471532 908712 :rain1!~debian@unaffiliated/rain1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: is this a way of asking does quantum information travel faster than light? i think the answer is no
< 1577471546 956753 :rain1!~debian@unaffiliated/rain1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can produce correlated results but not send any information
< 1577471616 597975 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No it is not a way of asking about information. I know it does not send any information.
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> 1577472037 296355 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Human Resource Code14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68401&oldid=68400 5* 03EthanPixelate 5* (+1) 10/* Lua */
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< 1577474374 73227 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what did the person nicknamed A do
< 1577474383 329955 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems like there was huge mess at the wiki
< 1577474396 546841 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and someone protected his user page from creating for unknown to me reason
< 1577474399 334236 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I read somewhere that if the German word "Deutsch" were made English, then it would be "Theech". Do you know if it is or not?
< 1577474461 316097 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if someone asked me, I'd reply it's reasonable
< 1577474528 235820 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know German so well? Then maybe you might know better than I would know
< 1577474595 317316 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used to learn it for couple of years
< 1577474599 105770 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not an expert though
< 1577474680 617615 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Theedish" or "Theech" is an adaptation of Old English þéodisc, meaning "national" (from þéod, "nation"). It's of the same origin as the German word Deutsch (which goes back to Old German diot, also meaning "nation"), hence why it's used as an English equivalent. A lot of national names come from words meaning simply "nation" in the native tongues.
< 1577474763 823740 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, OK.
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< 1577475365 660258 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.11.215.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :<kspalaiologos> what did the person nicknamed A do => a mess. Though what specifically in the last several days, I hadn’t watched
< 1577475433 242366 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's kinda sad
< 1577475438 185588 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :to see the wiki being vandalized
< 1577475479 596564 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.11.215.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are some people which unfortunately type faster than they should have been considering doing :(
< 1577475544 58365 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.11.215.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :technically A usually edited mainly pages created by them, and pages like language property lists. If it had progressed beyond that, well, shame
< 1577475556 537927 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.11.215.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/them/themselves*
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< 1577481782 484630 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@user-94-254-232-10.play-internet.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there any eaisly portable compiler for any language? 
< 1577481796 872366 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@user-94-254-232-10.play-internet.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tried currently 9cc,8cc,sdcc,cc65
< 1577481796 910658 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@user-94-254-232-10.play-internet.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :And smallerc
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< 1577486278 845634 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.11.215.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :my favorite question I hadn’t asked anybody, ever: how do you solve the expression problem?
< 1577486307 253122 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.11.215.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in a statically-typed language)
< 1577486317 451567 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :expression problem?
< 1577486569 768764 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.11.215.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :imode: there are several types of data, several types of operations applicable to all of them, and you need to be able to add both data and operations without modifying the existing code (e. g. it’s partially third-party or you don’t want to break API or something). Also it’s desirable that when a (data, operation) case isn’t defined for some existing data and operation, the compiler would complain even when that case isn’t u
< 1577486569 855408 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.11.215.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :sed anywhere. Though the last part is my invention I think. Also I’ll find a link about this thing
< 1577486674 73025 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.11.215.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://koerbitz.me/posts/Solving-the-Expression-Problem-in-Haskell-and-Java.html maybe here is a bearable description with some additional context too
< 1577486692 217946 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.11.215.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay I go to sleep
< 1577487009 813259 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.11.215.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw about that in Haskell, there are finally tagless interpreters but they aren’t very cool when you need to inspect the data structure?.. I hadn’t read much on that yet, though I’m partially interested in the topic. Maybe I would make a language and wish there were no e. p.
< 1577487043 357421 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.11.215.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, extensible records and ext. variants are nice for that part
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< 1577490243 922427 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have 3 days worth of free time and I'm doing nothing with it.
< 1577490264 395569 :x_!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net NICK :kingoffrance
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< 1577498264 906913 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :<kspalaiologos> what did the person nicknamed A do <-- most recently, deciding that e wanted to get higher on the "most linked" special page rankings and also in total number of pages created, and deciding to do so by creating a lot of even more trivial language pages than e previously had
< 1577498299 64477 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in general, a severe lack of self control and judgement.
< 1577498342 934186 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not quite enough to get permanently banned. yet.
< 1577498374 216232 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the user page ban was the result of one eir previous noisy experiments)
< 1577498379 862112 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*one of
> 1577498473 383206 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Human Resource Code14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68402&oldid=68401 5* 03EthanPixelate 5* (-1) 10/* Jumping and Controlled Flow */
> 1577498513 876414 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Human Resource Code14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68403&oldid=68402 5* 03EthanPixelate 5* (+18) 10/* Trying HRC */
> 1577498550 496249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Human Resource Code14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68404&oldid=68403 5* 03EthanPixelate 5* (+63) 10
> 1577498627 55404 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Human Resource Code14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68405&oldid=68404 5* 03EthanPixelate 5* (+0) 10
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< 1577501749 807222 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a command in Firefox to save a partially (or fully) filled form?
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> 1577508771 616883 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[0710Brainfuck14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=68406 5* 03BrainF99 5* (+695) 10Created page with "==10Brainfuck== 10Brainfuck is going to be my first contribution as far as esolangs are concerned. First of all programs are actually going to be written in octal. The octal c..."
> 1577509018 500127 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[0710Brainfuck14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68407&oldid=68406 5* 03BrainF99 5* (+40) 10
< 1577509352 541703 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A variant of the Magic: the Gathering "Commander" format would be to allow your commander to be any card (regardless of type and supertype), rather than only a legendary creature.
> 1577509397 107 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[0710Brainfuck14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68408&oldid=68407 5* 03BrainF99 5* (+4) 10
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< 1577509949 337579 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Another variant would allow cards with the wrong color identity but to have some sort of restriction and/or penalty involved for such thing.
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< 1577513262 111678 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember mentioned on here before about a prism that is red or blue when activated, and communicates with an alternative universe with a different colour. I think you mentioned to try to use monads to make it up in the computer?
< 1577513329 395974 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is what I have:   data Prism :: * -> * -> *; data Channel :: * -> * -> *; instance Eq (Channel a b); instance Monad (Prism a); runPrism :: forall a. (forall b. Prism b a) -> a; new :: forall a b. Prism b (Bool, Channel b a); send :: forall a b. a -> Channel b a -> Prism b (); receive :: forall a b. Channel b a -> Prism b a;    I don't know what the definitions would be though, or even if those types will work
< 1577513332 425318 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know?
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< 1577513875 775724 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://fahrplan.events.ccc.de/congress/2019/Fahrplan/events/10703.html is promising :)
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< 1577516926 590316 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh nice, an ultimate talk
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< 1577517481 269434 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: well I liked it
< 1577517537 577658 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(We can argue about the title. I picked it for contents. https://fahrplan.events.ccc.de/congress/2019/Fahrplan/events/10703.html )
< 1577517550 950609 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops(I should've linked to that 
< 1577517553 34078 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops
< 1577517612 827773 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I meant to link to the video: https://media.ccc.de/v/36c3-10703-the_ultimate_acorn_archimedes_talk
< 1577517778 532832 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah right
< 1577517826 976354 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I saw the Intel ME talk yesterday, haven't really looked closely at the others yet
< 1577517835 745437 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll catch the recordings later
< 1577518362 188025 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm I guess the Plundervolt talk would be more interesting if I had not read the paper.
< 1577518523 108088 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the (cleaned up) uploads are lagging behind the schedule. I'll check again later.
< 1577518698 367745 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(That's *not* a complaint. The CCC media team is amazing.)
< 1577519857 81563 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey are
< 1577519860 57530 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :they*
< 1577524099 684656 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@user-94-254-232-10.play-internet.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :imode, I've got something if you want to somehow spend these three days
> 1577524518 203247 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Pppery14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=68409 5* 03Hex96 5* (+27) 10Created page with "Welcome to esolangs Pppery!"
< 1577524596 63910 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :kspalaiologos: what would that be
> 1577524644 378039 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Hex9614]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68410&oldid=68391 5* 03Hex96 5* (+86) 10
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< 1577528518 871589 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :imode, well, I'm looking for someone to help me with finding a reasonable compiler to tweak it so it targets my asm2bf
< 1577528538 766118 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't feel like writing my own language, but I could take on creating yet another C compiler
< 1577528599 272355 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell imode please check the logs if you feel like it
< 1577528599 329625 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
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> 1577532771 104230 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Asm2bf14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68411&oldid=67298 5* 03Palaiologos 5* (+265) 10amp & sm, r5
> 1577532868 64669 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Asm2bf14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68412&oldid=68411 5* 03Palaiologos 5* (+0) 10four GPR's -> five GPR's
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< 1577535307 6116 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone willing to read the article, give some feedback on the assembler
< 1577535312 30798 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe suggest somethying
< 1577535859 716137 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Oh, this reminds me of you: https://media.ccc.de/v/36c3-10701-select_code_execution_from_using_sqlite
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> 1577541141 676440 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Asm2bf14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68413&oldid=68412 5* 03Palaiologos 5* (+976) 10Programming techniques / Portability
< 1577541164 899168 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I believe asm2bf article may be the longest one currently on wiki
> 1577542029 357256 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Asm2bf14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68414&oldid=68413 5* 03Palaiologos 5* (+576) 10Programming techniques / Compact loops
> 1577542828 108041 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Keg14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68415&oldid=68038 5* 03Hex96 5* (+20) 10/* Cat program */
< 1577543434 702971 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, the wiki XML dump has started failing with a "LocalFileLockError". :/
< 1577543472 247740 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :On an apparently-random directory (archive/d/d9/) which looks just like all the other directories as far as permissions are concerned.
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< 1577543607 770672 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://esolangs.org/wiki/Funciton/Brainfuckiton
< 1577543611 136190 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn
< 1577543612 878603 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's amazing
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< 1577544845 122810 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 NICK :Lord_of_Life
< 1577545501 243129 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bah. This error message is just useless.
< 1577545818 380266 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It does seem to fail for the third revision of https://esolangs.org/wiki/File:Plus1b.PNG which doesn't have a thumbnail either. I think it's missing the file name (for whatever reason), and consequently attempting to lock the directory instead of a file in it.
< 1577545904 237774 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is a file in the directory, it's just somehow lost track of it I guess.
< 1577546538 547622 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, some careful direct database manipulation seems to have resolved it. Couldn't even delete it from the web interface; because the archive name was missing, the delete link was pointing to the "delete all versions" action.
< 1577546815 627068 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :What I was *going* to say before all that, in terms of lines of raw wikitext, the Asm2bf article is #19 in the main namespace (but it's not a size competition). It might be the longest in terms of content; most of the longer ones are just long lists of implementations and/or examples.
< 1577546892 696606 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Top-20 at http://ix.io/25Im .)
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< 1577549548 220902 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, yeah, looked at them
< 1577549561 336237 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is a special page listing the articles
< 1577549641 493167 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :any ideas on example programs for asm2bf?
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< 1577550276 228539 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: What I saw so far, it is clearly enough, and is even intended behaviour. But I suppose that is why they added SQLITE_DBCONFIG_ENABLE_VIEW, since some programs will not want that.
< 1577550898 68244 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The bugs with shadow tables clearly is not intended, but I think they start to correct that and have also added a defensive mode to mitigate that a bit.)
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< 1577551931 829179 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What they mention now seems to be FTS3 anyways; there are newer versions of FTS, with a better way to pass pointers to SQL codes. (The pointers can only come from a C code, and if passed to any SQL function or INSERT statement or whatever that is not expecting it, you will just get null instead and will not be able to use the pointer.)
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< 1577552884 640729 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some stuff in that video is just badly written. (Did they not proof read it?)
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< 1577553579 900442 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Their exploit depends on FTS3 being available, so won't work without that.
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> 1577564634 67508 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03WilliamRagstad 5*  10New user account
> 1577567048 57925 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68417&oldid=68396 5* 03WilliamRagstad 5* (+360) 10Added an introduction about me (William Rgstad)
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> 1577567934 750541 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Herman-L14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=68418 5* 03Herman-L 5* (+99) 10Created page with "Hello! I am the Code Golf Stack Exchange user with the same name. I am also the creator of [[Ral]]."
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> 1577568507 325153 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Ral14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68419&oldid=68385 5* 03Herman-L 5* (+196) 10Add categories
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> 1577569441 696278 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Special:Log/upload14]]4 upload10 02 5* 03WilliamRagstad 5*  10uploaded "[[02File:Sweden-Flag-icon.png10]]"
> 1577569839 666516 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:WilliamRagstad14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=68421 5* 03WilliamRagstad 5* (+1243) 10My personal page
> 1577569937 251229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:WilliamRagstad14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68422&oldid=68421 5* 03WilliamRagstad 5* (+31) 10Split some text
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< 1577573520 562266 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm planning to add bitops to asm2bf
< 1577573543 799768 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone's got a decent Brainfuck implementation or I have to roll my own? 
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< 1577573727 297850 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you wanna do it naively, shifting, ANDing and such should be doable in terms of multiplication division by 2.
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< 1577573746 464219 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :ANDing though I'm not really sure..
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< 1577576277 856548 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :imode, already got shifts
< 1577576294 897038 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need just and, or, xor 
> 1577576641 504611 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07WordLang14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=68424 5* 03WilliamRagstad 5* (+458) 10Started writing about WordLang
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< 1577577565 556981 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"You will need to configure a better logger to collect the extra fields, for example Monolog."
< 1577577568 559717 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks MediaWiki
< 1577577570 356881 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, MediaWiki. ThediaWiki.
< 1577578505 592964 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looks like it's just broken. The response is successful (and looks to have all the content it needs), but has a 'code' of 0 (instead of the expected 200), so is treated as an error.
< 1577578888 444385 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :...because it runs curl and tries to do a regex match on /^(HTTP\/1\.[01]) (\d{3}) (.*)/ to parse the protocol, code, and reason, and the response from this particular server is "HTTP/2 200". No, it can't seriously be that stupid...
< 1577579177 49393 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki/commit/b05b69d -- yes, it is that stupid.
< 1577579191 429326 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least they've fixed it... 27 days ago, in a version I haven't installed.
> 1577580440 411053 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07WordLang14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68425&oldid=68424 5* 03WilliamRagstad 5* (+76) 10Added more categories
> 1577580762 679411 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07WordLang14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68426&oldid=68425 5* 03WilliamRagstad 5* (+90) 10
> 1577580790 710011 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07WordLang14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68427&oldid=68426 5* 03WilliamRagstad 5* (-1) 10
> 1577580957 770433 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07WordLang14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68428&oldid=68427 5* 03WilliamRagstad 5* (+54) 10
> 1577582542 309943 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68429&oldid=68395 5* 03WilliamRagstad 5* (+15) 10Added WordLang
> 1577582675 202969 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07WordLang14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68430&oldid=68428 5* 03WilliamRagstad 5* (+657) 10
> 1577583198 875895 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07WordLang14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68431&oldid=68430 5* 03WilliamRagstad 5* (+196) 10Wrote about the etymology
> 1577583361 135640 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Cryptoleq14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68432&oldid=54297 5* 03Fizzie 5* (+316) 10Put some math in it. Not sure about that last paragraph...
< 1577583399 153989 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: zzo38: I've provisionally installed the Math extension, and it seems to work at least a little bit. No guarantees it will always continue to work, if MediaWiki makes it too hard to keep working.
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> 1577584174 521417 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Special:Log/move14]]4 move10 02 5* 03Oerjan 5*  10moved [[02User:Pppery10]] to [[User talk:Pppery]]: Generally, discussion should go on talk pages, and you should normally not edit another users main page
< 1577584233 333356 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*+'
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< 1577589163 781246 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and there's a scene change, i guess we'll have to wait to see if cindy's plan is a gooey one
< 1577589242 944477 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorlie should have a talk with the freefall police chief
< 1577591221 889635 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there any insane mechanics to sed other than find/replace.
< 1577593141 639334 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :imode: i think the hold space stuff can get pretty hairy?
< 1577593227 880857 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :anything where you try to do things across lines requires that
< 1577593350 210208 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting. I don't know how hold space works.
< 1577593398 979438 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :time to learn.
< 1577594019 793834 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there used to be sourceforge page something or other with a bunch of sed scripts
< 1577594034 445452 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont know if they are "quality" but only time ive seen a collection of them assembled in one spot
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< 1577596328 903502 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have to wonder if a tool/"language" like `sed` has been adopted as an actual practical, general purpose programming language. it isn't hard to build control flow in it.
< 1577598467 684104 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i think it was like to solve/sort the towers of discs thing i forget what its called; i.e. not necessarily useful, but to prove it can be done in pure sed
< 1577598474 746434 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :little puzzles like that mostly
< 1577598496 295612 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hanoi
< 1577598499 166400 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :hanoi? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1577598501 569332 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yup
< 1577598807 723007 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont really have a cs background so my closest frame of reference is i just imagine:   https://cuphead.fandom.com/wiki/Talk:Chips_Bettigan/@comment-34432156-20180122112550    "In Japan the toy is called 'Daruma Otoshi'"
< 1577598856 271209 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :the puzzles are nice, but I can't shake that there might be some actual practical elements of working with a parallel rule processing engine.
< 1577598865 634098 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or parallelizable, anyway...)
< 1577598910 656418 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i learned something googling that:   "This traditional Japanese game requires a good eye and fast reflexes. The purpose of the game is to knock the center pieces out with the hammer without causing the doll on top to fall over"
< 1577598925 236334 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :took me a while to find a screenshot :/  i didnt know that was based on a real thing
< 1577599024 484414 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that seems a lot like the table cloth thing in movies where they try to yank it out without breaking/moving plates
< 1577599110 153384 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coding-wise, it seems to be a "refactoring/maintenance" metaphor
< 1577599128 566399 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and better than zuckerburg's (IIRC) "trying to change a tire on a moving car"
< 1577599161 393457 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo
< 1577599299 547023 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lotmn is almost nethack-esque in that you can throw coins/money at enemies
< 1577599312 930966 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you need a long-range projectile (it will cost you of course)
< 1577599326 495365 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess nethack you can too
< 1577599450 387320 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was a time when I actually had plans for a practical string rewriting language. it was based on the idea of communicating components: segments of the string were mapped to things like queues, stacks, arrays, program memory, etc. they communicated by sending signals back and forth through the string.
< 1577599477 860919 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :guess it was less of a language and more of an implementation layer. almost like an FPGA.
< 1577599779 780728 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose roguelikes "anything is possible" and bruce less/ninja "anything can be a weapon" such a similarity is not surprising
< 1577599785 996642 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/less/lee/
< 1577599964 407089 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in my mind nethack i suppose is a "typeless items" game, ideally you can "cast" many things and they will do *something* at least, depending on how they are used
< 1577600125 963011 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or at least, items should allow more than one use/"type")
< 1577600258 103020 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523 has said similar things on reddit
< 1577600737 666924 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"For example, the reason NetHack's UI is so clunky is that it has to allow players to attempt to do anything they might think of; most of the possible combinations won't be useful, but we have to try to make the game react sensibly to anything you might think of, whereas Pathos is typically happy to prevent you trying something that couldn't possibly help."
< 1577600745 693920 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :last i found
< 1577600766 690561 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(comparing with a different game)
< 1577600786 68559 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that makes sense
< 1577600806 938055 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"we" sounds like ais523 is/was a dev or otherwise involved
< 1577600811 546890 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :he is
< 1577600915 692463 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :he was developing the nethack 4 variant, and then got induced into the devteam for original nethack when they expanded a few years ago
< 1577601051 348011 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*inducted
< 1577601455 821172 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :imode, that sounds like it would keep "state" contained in a human-accessible form all the time, so long as they are kept relatively "small" you have an easy representation of "the world [of the program]" you can pass around, copy, change, spin up a new "instance" or "clone",  "snapshots",  "rewind" etc.
< 1577601490 274283 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i am understanding correctly
< 1577601517 323019 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :almost like everything is kept "serialized" all the time
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< 1577603851 602838 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :kingoffrance: pretty much, yeah.
< 1577603876 677557 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a really nice side effect of it. it's literally just a giant string.
< 1577603918 288115 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's basically "what if we made Thue not shit".
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< 1577606049 111506 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :...then we would end up with a terrible case of congestion...
< 1577606236 845584 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh.
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< 1577616843 258657 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://media.ccc.de/v/36c3-10601-how_not_to_build_autonomous_robots is good
> 1577618407 557687 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07WordLang14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68436&oldid=68435 5* 03WilliamRagstad 5* (-2) 10
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< 1577619371 192869 :Gollypot!725fb9c1@114.95.185.193 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: have fun with what you got
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< 1577619470 622058 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :What a pun.
< 1577620325 161808 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bruh
> 1577620417 802223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07WordLang14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68437&oldid=68436 5* 03WilliamRagstad 5* (+789) 10
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< 1577621123 848339 :oren!~oren@ec2-18-234-164-48.compute-1.amazonaws.com NICK :\oren\
< 1577621132 246628 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, where's fungot? 
< 1577621165 702038 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, right, we had that power outage.
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< 1577621235 706405 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Sorry about that.
< 1577621236 191646 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: the acute observer may have noticed that at times a new comer i'd remove it. i just tried
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> 1577621452 184873 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Muppp14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68443&oldid=68099 5* 03Hex96 5* (+15) 10
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> 1577621885 690777 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07()14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68448&oldid=66180 5* 03Fizzie 5* (+3) 10/* Instructions */ Adjust the odd alignment for the math part.
> 1577621908 610346 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Muppp14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68449&oldid=68447 5* 03Hex96 5* (+36) 10/* Hello, World! */
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> 1577630081 519834 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Your14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68454&oldid=68148 5* 03Hex96 5* (+143) 10/* Examples */
< 1577630122 396421 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://esolangs.org/wiki/User
< 1577630126 262673 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not like I'm complaining
< 1577630133 703880 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's not the wiki I did nothing for
< 1577630503 11957 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some wiki spring cleaning would be nice.
< 1577630552 697154 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pages like that are still preferable to spam.
> 1577630777 37557 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:WilliamRagstad14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68455&oldid=68423 5* 03WilliamRagstad 5* (+232) 10Added SSPS
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< 1577633727 788202 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I finished some brand new tweaks to asm2bf
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< 1577648669 637392 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :has anybody ever written a roguelike in `sed`, I wonder?
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< 1577652391 287800 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could write one
< 1577652398 435904 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :good idea
< 1577652407 435510 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :better write one in thue.
< 1577652414 138299 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you point me to another codebase though, because I can't come up with creative idea
< 1577652420 839540 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or storyline
< 1577652440 653880 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thue doesn't seem like a possible task
< 1577652523 898482 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :idea: roguelike in befunge where you can manipulate the code
< 1577652560 432975 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's entirely possible.
< 1577652568 810142 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :you just need to build your way out of the tarpit.
< 1577652625 261382 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would be hard to make this in a way that's not completely broken, though
< 1577652640 875299 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :more like a baba is you, but with real code
< 1577652673 212647 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that reminds me, i shuld continue playing rogue bit
< 1577653025 153772 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :kspalaiologos: https://git.imode.tech/?p=python/prime;a=blob;f=examples/picture.t;hb=HEAD
< 1577653031 529169 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :an example of 2D movement.
< 1577653049 779758 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could write one in asm2bf
< 1577653052 212840 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would be trivial
< 1577653065 83394 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then write b2all backend for sed
< 1577653077 602842 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :possibly a more optimizing one towards the asm2bf patterns
< 1577653085 728495 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or use newest nav mechanic
< 1577653461 384649 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :been exploring string rewriting as a backend for Mode. don't know why I'm attracted to it.
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< 1577654174 277589 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :something about rule-based programming is attractive. very unlike structured programming.
< 1577654226 673632 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's hard to know where to start, though.
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< 1577654772 598660 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :imode: have you got some time on your hands? 
< 1577654790 616512 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm planning to write a lisp compiler targeting my certain platform 
< 1577654817 992722 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you'd like to help me just a bit I would be thankful
< 1577654824 349218 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :what can I help with.
< 1577654854 180926 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well I can get it up to the point of generating AST
< 1577654866 171181 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And some abstract wrappers over assembly 
< 1577654894 192393 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So optimalization and IR generation is left 
< 1577654932 772443 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmm.
< 1577655033 680746 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.11.215.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :passing by, wish you luck
< 1577655780 94232 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahaha, hell yeah. just wrote something that compares 2 binary strings.
< 1577655810 319559 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://hatebin.com/gemgrlrnry
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< 1577656418 80733 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am honestly surprised I was able to write that in one shot.
< 1577656499 713441 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well
< 1577656508 137316 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe barely someone is interested 
< 1577656747 844207 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :I swear this could be reduced to lesser states.
< 1577656978 821707 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :you trade runtime though.
< 1577657395 505623 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :kspalaiologos: sorry, not interested in doing codegen for your project.
< 1577657400 884306 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :too complicated for my tastes.
< 1577657414 717152 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's fine 
< 1577657437 188237 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I may be capable of doing it (like the most things) alone. 
< 1577657451 869754 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :my philosophy about projects like this are that they're for an individual.
< 1577657478 218159 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so? 
< 1577657493 987096 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :just that you'd know better about where you want to take your code than I would.
< 1577657514 728827 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I recently helped in developing a programming language, coincidentally a lisp like
< 1577657528 670392 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I noticed the same thing, but
< 1577657564 962549 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it really depends on what are you trying to do in the project 
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< 1577657631 215357 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The reason I'm looking for help is because I don't feel confident in IR generation and optimizations on it
< 1577657656 299383 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :so don't optimize. what IR are you targeting? LLVM?
< 1577657788 869173 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is it your own IR that you're designing.
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< 1577659847 91076 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to target asm2bf
< 1577659878 345483 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell imode I want to target asm2bf, but I need some form of IR to switch the targets back and forth
< 1577659878 422716 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
> 1577660543 691108 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:WilliamRagstad14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68463&oldid=68456 5* 03WilliamRagstad 5* (+101) 10Swearsult
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> 1577661254 490470 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Asm2bf14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68465&oldid=68458 5* 03Palaiologos 5* (+353) 10
> 1577661287 826001 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Asm2bf14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68466&oldid=68465 5* 03Palaiologos 5* (+0) 10Real publication/refurbishment date
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< 1577662929 971648 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :imode: I want to target asm2bf, but I need some form of IR to switch the targets back and forth
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< 1577676013 719540 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder if sorlie will be pointing out that they cannot be so sure that what iafa did was _wrong_
< 1577676102 41510 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Schlock Mercenary)
< 1577677431 440315 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :kspalaiologos: not that familiar with asm2bf but if it's an assembly language built on top of BF, just do the stupidest possible thing first and worry about optimizations later.
< 1577677435 379346 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-loud
< 1577677435 456623 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric :kspalaiologos said 4h 52m 37s ago: I want to target asm2bf, but I need some form of IR to switch the targets back and forth
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< 1577685252 515795 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :dimo is easy to please
< 1577685612 768406 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you know that the following problem is NP-complete: Given a candidate permutation network (like a sorting network, but rather than sorting, each building block is a conditional swap), and a target permutation, can the network produce that permutation?
< 1577685832 643614 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I'm also lagging behind on comics. How did that happen...
< 1577685862 442670 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I know how. A) I found some other things to tackle, including the above. B) I've been watching 36C3 videos.)
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< 1577692445 7762 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: have you pondered attending congress? :p
< 1577692616 284492 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: Pondered, yes. But I'm too lazy.
< 1577692641 254455 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :mm... I wouldn't say to come for the talks, because you can watch the recordings (and everyone does that)... but the atmosphere and all is amazing in general
< 1577692647 944523 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :and conversations with people and stuff
< 1577692652 614223 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :but, fair :)
< 1577692773 169358 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been to 28C3 and 27C3. It was exhilarating, but I didn't talk to people so it was also a bit of a waste.
< 1577692849 819942 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did get an Arduino soldered and running at 28C3 though. So that's something.
< 1577692851 839898 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION shrugs.
< 1577692877 69070 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders how many people in this channel have a ham radio license
< 1577693265 880495 :FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: fair
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< 1577698482 957120 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-18-234-164-48.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the suffix -hotic refers to the sound some letter makes in a language
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< 1577698531 503454 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-18-234-164-48.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :So one can say that the Spanish chotic is /θ/ in mainland spain but /s/ in much of latin america
< 1577698594 414745 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-18-234-164-48.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :while english chotics include /k/, /s/, /x/ and /tʃ/
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< 1577699133 653894 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:aaaa:0:aaaa:0 PRIVMSG #esoteric :chotic being the sound a c makes in the given language?
< 1577701403 574895 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-18-234-164-48.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah
< 1577701413 702663 :\oren\!~oren@ec2-18-234-164-48.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :by analogy with rhotic
< 1577701502 382679 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:aaaa:0:aaaa:0 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Castille" sounds a bit odd if you pronounce it with a θ
< 1577701509 570839 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:aaaa:0:aaaa:0 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought θ was Z
> 1577702001 27822 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Asm2bf14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68469&oldid=68466 5* 03Palaiologos 5* (+2) 10
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> 1577703228 524385 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07It Online14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68473&oldid=68268 5* 03Jo King 5* (-36) 10replaced external link with internal one
> 1577703544 493968 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Language list14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68474&oldid=68429 5* 03Jo King 5* (+15) 10added Backhand
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> 1577711407 638193 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Langlang14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=68478 5* 03Hex96 5* (+528) 10Created page with "langlang is an esolang which just does what you tell it to do.  note that there are alot of ways to do the same thing.  ==Examples== ===Hello World=== <pre> say "Hello, World!..."
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< 1577713464 264023 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-188.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :welcome back
< 1577713599 969375 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-188.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :how was your christmas, fungot?
< 1577713600 312690 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: especially if you wait to be taught to talk anymore
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< 1577735857 812270 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :three people starred my asm2bf repo
< 1577735873 585216 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :where is my champagne
< 1577735917 77415 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( I expect one is a bot, one is genuinely interested, and one is a person everybody despises, like A. )
< 1577736333 436401 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lmao
< 1577737193 244363 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Three people have starred fungot too; at least one's an #esoteric-er, no idea what's up with the other two.
< 1577737193 734197 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: retrieving body 61 of 61 from fnord, his race, his language, his homeland and origin, his faith or his religious or political opinions.
< 1577737219 812215 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Those sort of details don't really show up in GitHub profiles.
< 1577737220 64901 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: some fnord use source port 0 are true
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< 1577737925 772351 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've starred it
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< 1577738061 687485 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't expect a lot of updates
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> 1577739128 950751 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Naz14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68489&oldid=68488 5* 03Sporeball 5* (+108) 10add category tags
> 1577739326 389416 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Language list14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68490&oldid=68474 5* 03Sporeball 5* (+10) 10add naz to the language list
> 1577740545 407722 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Hello world program in esoteric languages14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68491&oldid=67522 5* 03Sporeball 5* (+194) 10add naz's hello world program
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< 1577741015 69100 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-188.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`q
< 1577741016 157333 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-188.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`w
< 1577741016 921000 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :1279) <ais523> (btw, "q = 1-p" should be the standard definition of q, IMO)
< 1577741017 629092 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​il//An il is a cohelix of pper wire.
< 1577741043 2384 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? W
< 1577741050 389656 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :A w is everything a cow isn't.
< 1577741054 344233 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? w
< 1577741057 588272 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :A w is everything a cow isn't.
< 1577741061 785618 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? cow
< 1577741063 209043 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :A cow is an animal best served at minus zero degrees Celsius.
< 1577741075 478771 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Amazing. 
> 1577741080 522885 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Sporeball14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=68492 5* 03Sporeball 5* (+106) 10create my user page
< 1577741081 260394 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`w
< 1577741082 287580 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​boring//Boring means of little interest, unless it is done to pigs.
< 1577741318 264595 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-188.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :@run fmap (\x -> shift (x * (x + 1)) (-1)) [0 .. 34]
< 1577741320 192310 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : [0,1,3,6,10,15,21,28,36,45,55,66,78,91,105,120,136,153,171,190,210,231,253,2...
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< 1577741366 544787 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-188.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :@run fmap (\x -> shiftR (x * (x + 1)) 1) [0 .. 34]
< 1577741368 578432 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : [0,1,3,6,10,15,21,28,36,45,55,66,78,91,105,120,136,153,171,190,210,231,253,2...
< 1577741431 665600 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-188.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :=echo WC_Ub6mTc3s1
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< 1577744615 261651 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-188.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, how many hearts do you need to obtain the Master Sword?
< 1577744615 575606 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: i don't know how debian handles it, sorry :))
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> 1577747187 755681 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Keg14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68493&oldid=68415 5* 03JonoCode9374 5* (+346) 10
< 1577748260 772305 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I played GURPS game yesterday (twice). I connected a Raspberry Pi computer to a television set at a hotel, but when it is connected, the remote control doesn't work. Do you know why? Is it related to HDMI-CEC somehow?
< 1577748520 31227 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-188.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :did the remote control work while the computer isn't connected to the television? was there a clear line of sight between the led of the remote control and the IR sensor on the television?
< 1577748690 29984 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, If the computer is not connected, the remote control worked, and there is a clear line of sight either way (even, there is a light on the TV set that flashed so clearly the signal was received, but failed to do anything about it). There is also one switch on the TV set itself, but it doesn't work, regardless of what is connected on the back.
< 1577749209 132145 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-188.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, have you ever tried to encode a hidden message in your replies, like via steganography or acrosticon?
< 1577749209 386283 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: ( box-set! a-box " hi")
< 1577750808 574478 :bunnyocto!b2c5e08d@178.197.224.141 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
> 1577751282 944763 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:BrainF9914]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68494&oldid=68149 5* 03BrainF99 5* (-159) 10
> 1577751565 726992 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[0710Brainfuck14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68495&oldid=68408 5* 03BrainF99 5* (+140) 10
< 1577751771 985886 :ArthurStrong!~ArthurStr@slow.wreckage.volia.net QUIT :Quit: leaving
< 1577751829 148029 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that reply had the hidden message "hi" cleverly concealed within it.
< 1577752540 627774 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :We were trying to go into the wizard's tower, but there was no friction on the roof so we keep falling down, and the windows have some kind of magical force field. But we were able to break the force field with arrows, and then go in and not only the magic orb we needed, but there are also books in there, which was helpful since we can use that information to disable most of the clay golems even though we are not near them.
< 1577752557 62297 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here is I wrote it in the computer:  http://zzo38computer.org/gurpsgame/1.ui/wiki?name=Session+26  Do you like this?
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< 1577760996 905934 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 NICK :Lord_of_Life
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< 1577762238 193448 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even though people have said that targets in a cost in Magic: the Gathering will not work, and it is certainly not designed to do this, I think it does work (if it is a spell or a activated ability other than a mana ability); for example if it says "{T}, Destroy target creature: You gain 2 life." then you won't gain 2 life if the target creature is successfully destroyed. Since the targets are chosen before the cost is paid, it might work.
< 1577768114 928726 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds
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> 1577771854 500271 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User talk:Hex9614]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68496&oldid=68480 5* 03JonoCode9374 5* (+169) 10/* Getting one of my languages on the random language button */
> 1577772166 761322 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:JonoCode937414]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68497&oldid=68293 5* 03JonoCode9374 5* (+206) 10
> 1577772582 733836 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Ekg14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=68498 5* 03JonoCode9374 5* (+2878) 10A little something I'm working on
> 1577772608 616073 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:JonoCode937414]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68499&oldid=68497 5* 03JonoCode9374 5* (+0) 10/* Languages I'm working on */
< 1577772673 47178 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If a map or dictionary contains a false entry for a copyright trap, then what will happen if the other people who read it then make it true? Such as, if there is a nonexistent street, build that street; if a dictionary contains a made up word, start using that word a lot.
> 1577772676 55393 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Keg14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68500&oldid=68493 5* 03JonoCode9374 5* (+102) 10
< 1577773266 498331 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wiktionary also lists the word "malamorous", which doesn't mention anything about a copyright trap, but says that the word is not used anywhere, only being listed in a book titled "1000 Words You Should Use More Often".
< 1577774085 505106 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's an obi wan street;  i suppose they like advertising
< 1577774097 749177 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dunno if they got "permission" first or not
< 1577774182 932419 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe, but that isn't what I meant. I meant when they put false streets in a map to detect those who make copies of the map and violate their copyright. If the street actually exists, then the map will be correct that such excuse might not count.
< 1577774311 748377 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Or in the case of a dictionary, the case for including it in other dictionaries if it is commonly in use may be even stronger, so it is a real fact and they might not be able to sue them for copyright violation if the word is in use since a fact in a dictionary is presumably uncopyrightable.)
< 1577774338 297736 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, like a disguised "watermark"
< 1577774391 904783 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was wondering what you meant by "coyright trap" yeah i have heard of such
< 1577774444 404675 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :some mayor sees it, decides they will call somewhere "new malamorous city" not knowing the original doesn't actually exist :)
< 1577774454 184951 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/sees it/sees it in an atlas/
< 1577774650 953645 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I suppose something like that can happen, although that isn't what I meant either, unless the new city is built in the same place where the original presumably (but actually isn't) was.
< 1577776418 100636 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :surely you will invent a word for such an occasion
< 1577776421 145372 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :surely
< 1577776455 938677 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shirley?
< 1577776821 794980 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would do
< 1577778444 662245 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-188.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: then the word will no longer work as a copyright trap after that
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< 1577778680 767992 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :malamorous if it means what i suppose, sounds to me like glamorous i.e. deception; although modern connotations is perhaps reversed, i.e. shining star to follow rather than "blinding light gypsy trickery"
< 1577778705 515653 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was thinking "mal" + "amorous" but glamorous actually makes sense to me, if that is what it is getting at
< 1577778706 479044 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-188.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: there was a different case for copyright trap that I was considering. some bus companies here publish their official bus timetable in a format that is hard to use, 
< 1577778743 213242 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would be curious who/how they made up "malamorous"
< 1577778789 248814 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-188.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so there's a market for more usable digital timetables on the internet. in such a timetable, you can put a copyright trap by nudging the stop time of a single bus in a small station forward by a minute. that's easy to detect when someone copies your presentation, and won't affect users much.
< 1577778909 217628 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i.e. even if malamorous was a bogus word, how did they come up with its meaning, etc.)
< 1577778925 918194 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cuz they had to somewhat make it sound real, unless it was just in a list without any def.
< 1577779030 517731 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know if maybe the author of the book just made it up because they hoped someone might use it.
< 1577779169 257592 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-188.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the case of a database where the individual items are under public domain but your compilation is protected by database right (a dictionary is a stronger example than that, you could consider artefacts in a museum, or works of art of a famous musician, or books in a library), another way to add a copyright trap is to omit the entry for an item that definitely exists
< 1577779282 511885 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes; and if they do that then you can complain to them about an item is missing.
< 1577779417 906925 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats good, because you just add it and remove something else
< 1577779423 889608 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like that idea b_jonas
< 1577779437 277372 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :harder to do now with computers of course
< 1577779493 19302 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If they do just add it and remove something else, and then repeat the complaint about the new missing item, and so on, then eventually they will have a bad reputation, I think.
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< 1577781554 105389 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-188.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :suppose I have a photo that I want to publish on a website in jpeg format. the website is a proper one that lets me publish the jpeg file byte to byte without changes, not eg. facebook or twitter. before publishing, I want to put a metadata field into the file that contains the website url where the published image and its description will be found when I publish, so that if someone downloads the file, 
< 1577781560 66107 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-188.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :they have a backlink. what metadata field should I use for that? I was trying to look at descriptions of IPTC but they're so arcane I couldn't find the right field. I don't insist on IPTC in particular, but I do insist on JPEG as the container.
< 1577782157 192128 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-188.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is for when I can predict a direct url on the website, such as on Mediawiki wikis, as opposed to websites that only allow urls with a random id (or a crypto checksum) in them
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< 1577782349 593564 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unfortunately I don't know
< 1577783249 772685 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:aaaa:0:aaaa:0 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does anyone ever use those suggested repo names that GitHub gives you
< 1577783277 590771 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :bots?
< 1577783294 578403 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:aaaa:0:aaaa:0 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know if I count bots in "anyone"
< 1577783300 337866 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't even know github did that.
< 1577783339 148200 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:aaaa:0:aaaa:0 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Great repository names are short and memorable. Need inspiration? How about psychic-octo-robot?"
< 1577783351 141848 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't remember.
< 1577783374 144379 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :When I create a repo on github I always have a name in mind already.
< 1577783427 853544 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :So as long as it's not obnoxious about making suggestions I will not notice that they're even there.
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< 1577785342 484893 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like they are trying to be "cute"
< 1577785381 818899 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but devs hopefully it will taste like disgust/trying too hard/etc. :/
< 1577785394 365382 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like ms is mocking foss
< 1577785408 290986 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dunno, maybe they think that is what it takes :/
< 1577785417 198380 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and totally not ironic, hard to say sometimes
< 1577785479 857418 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if they used hyphens instead of underscores, that makes compatibility with dns/hostnames slightly better, ill give them that
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< 1577785526 424242 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh! someone broke a foot of my office keyboard
< 1577785857 215182 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( Feet of Clay )
< 1577785867 224621 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:aaaa:0:aaaa:0 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kingoffrance: these predate MS buying GitHub by a long time
< 1577785960 357236 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats worse Taneb :/
< 1577785970 224760 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i hope it was meant to be "ironic"
< 1577786007 842726 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it could be a "just code, dont worry about name, you can change later"   thing, meant to inspire in that manner
< 1577786012 386804 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is less troubling to me
< 1577786040 159076 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but names keep things focussed IMO, so are important too
< 1577786182 474541 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:aaaa:0:aaaa:0 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kingoffrance: on another note, for important reasons I will leave unexplained, I will ask, do you have hair?
< 1577786296 209117 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( Is the h silent? )
< 1577786446 333649 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:aaaa:0:aaaa:0 PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( Would you like it to be? That power is yours, int-e )
< 1577786988 331799 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ugh, but I don't want all that responsibility.
< 1577787001 539644 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose I'd rather run out of hair than air.
< 1577787038 546271 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I'm not french.
< 1577787066 736452 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the "h" in what? in "github"?
< 1577787085 517585 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wib_jonas: No, in "hair".
< 1577787123 865791 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :'oo cares about git'ub?
< 1577787216 960700 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:aaaa:0:aaaa:0 PRIVMSG #esoteric :GitHub: it's like PornHub but with gits instead of porn
< 1577787277 147557 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.xkcd.com/624/ ?
< 1577787543 758106 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Has xkcd ever done an xkcd on how there's an xkcd on everything, except on xkcd?
< 1577787815 871167 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think so. There's https://www.xkcd.com/1000/ on how there are a lot of xkcd comics, and https://www.xkcd.com/442/ and https://www.xkcd.com/207/ are other strips about xkcd, but I don't think either of those matches what you ask
< 1577788150 477211 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1577788442 620153 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, what is a "gravity cell", and is it a sci-fi thing?
< 1577788443 136525 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :wib_jonas: tc as fnord describe it is " the incredible slowness". it is kind of mind bending so it's always square just at the scheme workshop.
< 1577788507 136760 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :burn, scheme, burn
< 1577788652 109065 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds like a squidbillies reference Taneb
< 1577788717 472413 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :emperor has hair and no clothes
< 1577788774 920846 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:aaaa:0:aaaa:0 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kingoffrance: it was not directly a squidbillies reference, as I don't know what squidbillies is
< 1577788953 425140 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i missed your ref then
< 1577788964 970251 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :historical accuracy?
< 1577788966 864491 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not my thing
< 1577789706 790690 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:aaaa:0:aaaa:0 PRIVMSG #esoteric :As I said, my reasons will remain unexplained
< 1577789711 537780 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:aaaa:0:aaaa:0 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you answer the question?
< 1577789786 955668 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's one of those robot test captcha things like https://www.xkcd.com/233/ , because mammals have hairs but robots don't.
< 1577792717 577076 :bunnyocto!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1577794736 352887 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can answer it yes, but "where" and "whose" seem pertinent
< 1577794747 96916 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont collect hair or anything :/  im not a freak
< 1577794940 210642 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :captchas will fail because they assume people cant be programmed
< 1577794949 728788 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or cant program themself even
< 1577795023 216959 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :its a question "which programming do people have" seems more pertinent IMO
< 1577795049 72839 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and "where did they get it" and "is that the programming they want" :/
< 1577795068 885682 :kingoffrance!~x__@c-67-161-241-22.hsd1.ut.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and "are they contagious"
< 1577798919 554552 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :UTC New Year is an hour after New Year. We should celebrate it and watch https://esolangs.org/logs/ change
< 1577799205 524740 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? password
< 1577799208 176120 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :The password of the month is naughty.
< 1577799244 56389 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yeah, you'll change that too
< 1577799357 193060 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have priorities ;)
< 1577799387 493476 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Though honestly... I expect to be in bed.)
< 1577799901 931721 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :will you change the password to "choking insurgent dogsled penetrate" at midnight?
< 1577799916 984557 :Frater_EST!adrianbibl@172.242.0.73 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1577800085 549130 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :most assuredly not
< 1577800111 577028 :bunnyocto!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds
< 1577800143 16785 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, what will the password for next month be?
< 1577800143 293352 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :wib_jonas: only if lambda is a macro
< 1577800501 781191 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wib_jonas: it may be better if somebody else picks the POTM, honestly. I'll just end up with something like "The password of the month is resolute."
< 1577800560 272965 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone else other than fungot?
< 1577800560 609996 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :wib_jonas: like number42 said. and still have it
< 1577801419 77358 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Australia east coast is already in the new year
< 1577802217 720097 :adu!~ajr@pool-173-73-86-191.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1577803763 555091 :adu!~ajr@pool-173-73-86-191.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: adu
< 1577803956 578917 :bunnyocto!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1577804009 921169 :bunnyocto!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :howdy
< 1577804107 568097 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1577804264 679446 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds
< 1577804264 794912 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 NICK :Lord_of_Life
< 1577806517 922825 :bunnyocto!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh my gawd.
< 1577806523 402526 :bunnyocto!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :blsq has a  switchcase now :D
< 1577806571 642654 :bunnyocto!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codepad.org/QS4CYmiu
< 1577806599 637425 :bunnyocto!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Imagine the possibilities.
< 1577806622 330322 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's blsq
< 1577806638 531055 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no wiki entry bout it
< 1577806641 771302 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? blsq
< 1577806643 921438 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :See: Burlesque
< 1577806648 581357 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? burlesque
< 1577806650 264872 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :Burlesque is only the sexiest language on Earth. (See: http://mroman.ch/burlesque)
< 1577806667 336893 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not close enough
< 1577806679 379130 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :verdict: no idea what is blsq
< 1577806709 371738 :bunnyocto!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :blsq ) %foo={{{{1 2 3} {9?*}}{{1 2 4}{8?*}}}/_} 1 2 4 %foo! 1 2 3 %foo!Cl{1 2 32 1 2 27}
< 1577806716 842534 :bunnyocto!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :blsq ) %foo={{{{1 2 3} {9?*}}{{1 2 4}{8?*}}}/_} 1 2 4 %foo! 1 2 3 %foo!Cl{1 2 32 1 2 27}
< 1577806722 640491 :bunnyocto!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. no newlines here
< 1577806725 162788 :bunnyocto!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well...
< 1577806731 939151 :bunnyocto!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :{1 2 32 1 2 27}
< 1577806735 467523 :bunnyocto!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :would be the output
< 1577806745 810579 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there an online compiler
< 1577806747 156418 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or interpreter
< 1577806750 350524 :bunnyocto!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is
< 1577806754 219347 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or any compiler
< 1577806754 789899 :bunnyocto!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's also an IRC bot.
< 1577806767 133365 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which one is it
< 1577806773 472520 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@178.197.228.160 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1577806774 861816 :bunnyocto!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^- this guy
< 1577806780 181051 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fine
< 1577806782 682291 :bunnyocto!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq "Hi there"Q
< 1577806783 74888 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | Hi there
< 1577806783 282757 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about the compiler
< 1577806786 958203 :bunnyocto!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no compiler.
< 1577806789 775929 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :source code?
< 1577806794 210370 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for the bot or interpreter?
< 1577806803 923611 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe an article online, have you got any of these?
< 1577806807 355797 :bunnyocto!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/FMNSSun/Burlesque
< 1577806813 581590 :bunnyocto!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://mroman.ch/burlesque
< 1577806818 625068 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a ha
< 1577806821 884232 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's this one
< 1577806836 415236 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I coiuldn't tell were they the same language
< 1577806855 408684 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :starred
> 1577806967 998164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Blsq14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=68501 5* 03B jonas 5* (+23) 10Redirected page to [[Burlesque]]
< 1577806972 843410 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :good point
< 1577807022 308467 :bunnyocto!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 4ror@4.+FL++
< 1577807022 472145 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | 40
< 1577807028 885961 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kspalaiologos: it's a golf language built in Haskell with a large standard library
< 1577807043 182073 :bunnyocto!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a piece of shit built in haskell
< 1577807046 362432 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a documentation that is somewhat vague
< 1577807050 492749 :bunnyocto!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mostly for homework stuff
< 1577807055 969584 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :umm, cool
< 1577807065 795453 :bunnyocto!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like it can do chisquaretests and shit
< 1577807072 521253 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :its syntax is made of mostly two-character builtins
< 1577807081 33802 :bunnyocto!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically the stuff that I needed to do during my studies 8 years ago or something
< 1577807082 62377 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it has a few one-character keywords too
< 1577807117 113441 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice
< 1577807118 651813 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :have a star
< 1577807129 354678 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :are there some more examples than the wiki page?
< 1577807155 760677 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kspalaiologos: there are examples in the channel logs
< 1577807158 807225 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :years ago
< 1577807167 567836 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't feel like scrolling them
< 1577807175 284365 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's nice anyways
< 1577807177 241445 :bunnyocto!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No but there's a link to the golf site which has more examples.
< 1577807200 272993 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :minimalistic website
< 1577807201 810955 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :love it
< 1577807207 742485 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nearly like mine
< 1577807207 891236 :bunnyocto!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kspalaiologos: http://golf.shinh.org/l.rb?blsq
< 1577807223 989 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a, this one
< 1577807262 955242 :bunnyocto!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also you're talking to the madlad inventing it so any questions you have I can answer :D
< 1577807276 610559 :bunnyocto!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's not a single person on the planet who knows more about blsq than me :D
< 1577807279 171544 :bunnyocto!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe clock
< 1577807293 642732 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's exactly like my languages
< 1577807295 924124 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or tools
< 1577807297 700944 :bunnyocto!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it also has support for concurrency/multithreading
< 1577807305 53371 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no one knows them really xD
< 1577807306 6587 :bunnyocto!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it has MySQL support as well
< 1577807316 359648 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would you add mysql support to an esoteric language
< 1577807331 550701 :bunnyocto!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you can plug it up to your mysql database and do your data analysis in BLSQ like a manic pro
< 1577807335 540730 :bunnyocto!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why
< 1577807339 117961 :bunnyocto!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :He asks me why?
< 1577807340 264013 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric : . O ( bruh, this json formatter in brainfuck is haunting me )
< 1577807346 573856 :bunnyocto!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because I can.
< 1577807354 960610 :bunnyocto!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And because I'm mad.
< 1577807372 741613 :bunnyocto!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I spent years in mental institutions
< 1577807373 456185 :bunnyocto!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so
< 1577807378 70267 :bunnyocto!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :muahahaha
< 1577807385 411535 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :umm
< 1577807386 717420 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank you
< 1577807388 184587 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :very cool
< 1577807392 690709 :bunnyocto!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :true story :D
< 1577807415 420111 :bunnyocto!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can also tell you lot of stuff about psychiatry
< 1577807423 261632 :bunnyocto!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and about splenology
< 1577807433 192515 :bunnyocto!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm an expert on spleens.
< 1577807464 82923 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that might be the most random thing I heard by the end of this decade
< 1577807472 594035 :bunnyocto!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah well
< 1577807476 864761 :bunnyocto!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lots of free time in the asylum so
< 1577807485 271773 :bunnyocto!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :either you do silly things
< 1577807489 76037 :bunnyocto!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or you memorize medical books
< 1577807500 536734 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about job?
< 1577807502 895804 :bunnyocto!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which some might consider silly
< 1577807509 348211 :bunnyocto!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't have a job in an asylum now can you
< 1577807515 991414 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're unemployed?
< 1577807520 443805 :bunnyocto!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty much
< 1577807525 321639 :bunnyocto!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also used to be homeless for a while
< 1577807525 864820 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fine
< 1577807535 30435 :bunnyocto!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was living on park benches for a while
< 1577807583 910690 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bunnyocto: wait, so you're the same esolanger as the one who created blsq, but under a different nick?
< 1577807591 311343 :bunnyocto!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep.
< 1577807603 650778 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :MySQL support?
< 1577807612 134551 :bunnyocto!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :blsq has mysql support yes
< 1577807639 202713 :bunnyocto!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not the ircbot version
< 1577807645 364327 :bunnyocto!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that one has all I/O commands disabled of course.
< 1577807786 923022 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`q harp
< 1577807787 893271 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :1280) <ais523> hmm, I just remembered that I was formally trained to tune harps
< 1577807790 273368 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`q splenology
< 1577807791 217000 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1577807803 427915 :bunnyocto!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq fancy def double: \2 \?* end end 8 %double!
< 1577807803 674531 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | 16
< 1577807817 998617 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how can one
< 1577807825 467458 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :put a tar.gz on hack eso filesystem
< 1577807830 11130 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't seem to remember
< 1577807839 969368 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`help
< 1577807840 9387 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :Runs arbitrary code in GNU/Linux. Type "`<command>", or "`run <command>" for full shell commands. "`fetch [<output-file>] <URL>" downloads files. Files saved to $HACKENV are persistent, and $HACKENV/bin is in $PATH. $HACKENV is a mercurial repository, "`revert <rev>" can be used to revert, https://hack.esolangs.org/repo/ to browse. $PWD ($HACKENV/tmp) is persistent but unversioned, /tmp is ephemeral.
< 1577807845 845667 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok
< 1577807852 68646 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't ask anything
< 1577807853 465376 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls
< 1577807854 633273 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :asmbf-1.1.1 \ banana.txt \ bfi \ compiled_brachylog.pl \ just \ karma \ le \ paste \ program \ spline \ spout \ test \ test.sh
< 1577807874 825370 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? fetch
< 1577807877 194627 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​`fetch [<output-file>] <URL> downloads files, and is the only web access currently available in HackEgo. It is a special builtin that cannot be called from other commands. See also `edit.
< 1577807878 639188 :bunnyocto!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq fancy def double: 2 \?* end def main: double(8) end end %main!
< 1577807878 775217 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | 16
< 1577807886 448171 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`fetch asmbf-1.2.6 https://github.com/KrzysztofSzewczyk/asmbf/archive/master.zip
< 1577807891 586821 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cannot write to ‘/hackenv/tmp/asmbf-1.2.6’ (File too large).
< 1577807891 769550 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls
< 1577807896 642871 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa what
< 1577807896 822977 :bunnyocto!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that basically defines a function double and main and invokes double(8)
< 1577807897 179486 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how
< 1577807915 354509 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the zip file is 56 kb big
< 1577807926 685370 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`fetch asmbf-1.2.6.zip https://github.com/KrzysztofSzewczyk/asmbf/archive/master.zip
< 1577807928 879861 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cannot write to ‘/hackenv/tmp/asmbf-1.2.6.zip’ (File too large).
< 1577807942 453455 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`fetch /hackenv/asmbf-1.2.6.zip https://github.com/KrzysztofSzewczyk/asmbf/archive/master.zip
< 1577807944 621479 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cannot write to ‘/hackenv/asmbf-1.2.6.zip’ (File too large).
< 1577807957 134130 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :funnyocto: (1) that doesn't look like blsq syntax, because blsq keywords are two characters long, those are longer; (2) you can't call a function "double", that's a keyword.
< 1577807971 738707 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`df
< 1577807972 577064 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :Filesystem     1K-blocks     Used Available Use% Mounted on \ none            24733776 14622324   8841948  63% /bin \ none             1026028        0   1026028   0% /dev \ none            24733776 14622324   8841948  63% /lib \ tmpfs             126192        0    126192   0% /tmp \ none            24733776 14622324   8841948  63% /usr \ none            24733776 14622324   8841948  63% /sbin \ none            24733776 14622324   8841948  63%
< 1577807973 537444 :bunnyocto!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codepad.org/2Ui5N9Ve wib_jonas
< 1577807982 243834 :bunnyocto!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's perfectly valid blsq code
< 1577807994 973363 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`python3 -cimport numpy; print(numpy.double([1]))
< 1577807996 465027 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[1.]
< 1577808005 496317 :arseniiv_!~arseniiv@94.41.41.57.dynamic.ufanet.ru JOIN :#esoteric
< 1577808027 737419 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1577808096 688871 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whats up with it
< 1577808115 245381 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`du .
< 1577808116 181052 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :52	./asmbf-1.1.1/doc \ 28	./asmbf-1.1.1/examples \ 12	./asmbf-1.1.1/test \ 8	./asmbf-1.1.1/.github/workflows \ 12	./asmbf-1.1.1/.github \ 84	./asmbf-1.1.1/bin \ 548	./asmbf-1.1.1 \ 1012	./paste \ 1648	.
< 1577808118 698718 :bunnyocto!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq fancy def double: \begin lisp (?* 2) end lisp end def main: \begin lisp (double 8) end lisp end end %main!
< 1577808118 865452 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | 16
< 1577808123 953508 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`du ..
< 1577808129 465253 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :4040	../lib/p7zip-16.02 \ 10732	../lib \ 24	../interps/dimensifuck \ 60	../interps/adjust \ 72	../interps/egobf/src/.deps \ 40	../interps/egobf/src/c2m/tests \ 16	../interps/egobf/src/c2m/i386 \ 60	../interps/egobf/src/c2m \ 824	../interps/egobf/src \ 48	../interps/egobf/scripts \ 1248	../interps/egobf \ 44	../interps/bf_txtgen \ 12	../interps/whirl \ 252	../interps/clc-intercal/CLC-INTERCAL-Docs-1.-94.-2/doc/html \ 96	../interps/clc-intercal/
< 1577808176 588890 :bunnyocto!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codepad.org/gDpNNn3P <- also perfectly valid blsq code
< 1577808219 673366 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`fetch asmbf-1.2.6.zip http://github.com/KrzysztofSzewczyk/asmbf/archive/master.zip
< 1577808221 737137 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cannot write to ‘/hackenv/tmp/asmbf-1.2.6.zip’ (File too large).
< 1577808226 655263 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :issues with https maybe
< 1577808281 459768 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`fetch asmbf-1.2.6.tar.gz https://github.com/KrzysztofSzewczyk/asmbf/archive/v1.2.7.tar.gz
< 1577808284 330388 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cannot write to ‘/hackenv/tmp/asmbf-1.2.6.tar.gz’ (File too large).
< 1577808289 677172 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :out of ideas
< 1577808303 242808 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :40KB -> file too large
< 1577808305 844840 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? fetch
< 1577808309 665346 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​`fetch [<output-file>] <URL> downloads files, and is the only web access currently available in HackEgo. It is a special builtin that cannot be called from other commands. See also `edit.
> 1577808321 126573 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Tplntivhtpaavwtpi14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=68502 5* 03Hex96 5* (+212) 10Created page with "This is an esolang by [[User:Hex96|Hex]] which you write <code>1</code> and gets the amount of 1s, converts it to decimal and converts to binary which is the code. The code..."
< 1577808328 397382 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`fetch https://github.com/KrzysztofSzewczyk/asmbf/archive/v1.2.7.tar.gz
< 1577808330 308904 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cannot write to ‘v1.2.7.tar.gz’ (File too large).
> 1577808347 167002 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Hex9614]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68503&oldid=68479 5* 03Hex96 5* (+24) 10/* List of esolangs */
< 1577808370 652919 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bruh it's like
< 1577808375 145404 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :unary -> binary
> 1577808387 876586 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68504&oldid=68490 5* 03Hex96 5* (+24) 10/* T */
< 1577808392 929453 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`fetch http://example.com/index.html
< 1577808394 284869 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :2019-12-31 16:06:33 URL:http://example.com/index.html [1256/1256] -> "index.html" [1]
< 1577808397 922034 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :???
< 1577808401 153379 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :` rm index.html
< 1577808402 117983 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​? Permission denied
< 1577808403 728729 :bunnyocto!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq begin lisp (sv {_+} "cnat") (sv {0!!} "fst") (fst (cnat {1 2} {3 4})) end lisp
< 1577808404 179465 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | 1
< 1577808406 609224 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wh a t
< 1577808408 269488 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls
< 1577808409 265008 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :asmbf-1.1.1 \ asmbf-1.2.6 \ asmbf-1.2.6.tar.gz \ asmbf-1.2.6.zip \ banana.txt \ bfi \ compiled_brachylog.pl \ index.html \ just \ karma \ le \ paste \ program \ spline \ spout \ test \ test.sh \ v1.2.7.tar.gz
< 1577808414 133369 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sudo rm index.html
< 1577808415 172981 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :sudo: effective uid is not 0, is /usr/bin/sudo on a file system with the 'nosuid' option set or an NFS file system without root privileges?
< 1577808423 273460 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm index.html
< 1577808424 865424 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1577808430 805572 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls
< 1577808431 845419 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :asmbf-1.1.1 \ asmbf-1.2.6 \ asmbf-1.2.6.tar.gz \ asmbf-1.2.6.zip \ banana.txt \ bfi \ compiled_brachylog.pl \ just \ karma \ le \ paste \ program \ spline \ spout \ test \ test.sh \ v1.2.7.tar.gz
< 1577808432 440521 :bunnyocto!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you probably don't want to know about begin asm do you?
< 1577808441 99075 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :about what
< 1577808457 155552 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tell me
< 1577808472 841753 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :` fetch https://github.com/KrzysztofSzewczyk/asmbf/archive/v1.2.7.tar.gz
< 1577808473 729024 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​? Permission denied
< 1577808477 532281 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :permission deined?
< 1577808478 877632 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's that
< 1577808491 676378 :bunnyocto!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :blsq 2.0 has an asm mode as well
< 1577808497 206176 :bunnyocto!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in addition to the lisp and fancy modes
< 1577808501 279755 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fine
< 1577808502 650344 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :?
< 1577808516 656526 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :any ideas
< 1577808520 760941 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :on this bot?
< 1577808530 486074 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric
< 1577808535 377506 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`fetch /tmp/what.tar.gz https://github.com/KrzysztofSzewczyk/asmbf/archive/v1.2.7.tar.gz
< 1577808536 365022 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :In another world: /tmp/what.tar.gz
< 1577808542 591243 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :?
< 1577808548 216333 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-aanjqnzgwzcfnvnb QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds
< 1577808551 217399 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`fetch /hackenv/tmp/what.tar.gz https://github.com/KrzysztofSzewczyk/asmbf/archive/v1.2.7.tar.gz
< 1577808553 20257 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cannot write to ‘/hackenv/tmp/what.tar.gz’ (File too large).
< 1577808560 437372 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls /hackenv
< 1577808561 401042 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :asmbf-1.2.6.zip \ bin \ canary \ emoticons \ esobible \ etc \ f \ factor \ hw \ ibin \ interps \ karma \ karma.orig \ karma.rej \ le \ lib \ misle \ paste \ ply-3.8 \ quines \ quotes \ share \ src \ stuff \ tmflry \ tmp \ wisdom
< 1577808565 635274 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait
< 1577808569 991533 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's actually there
< 1577808571 973364 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls
< 1577808572 921421 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :asmbf-1.1.1 \ asmbf-1.2.6 \ asmbf-1.2.6.tar.gz \ asmbf-1.2.6.zip \ banana.txt \ bfi \ compiled_brachylog.pl \ just \ karma \ le \ paste \ program \ spline \ spout \ test \ test.sh \ v1.2.7.tar.gz \ what.tar.gz
< 1577808575 281172 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what XD
< 1577808586 123157 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why does it show this message if it's actually there
> 1577808593 27965 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User talk:Hex9614]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68505&oldid=68496 5* 03Hex96 5* (+129) 10
< 1577808604 893668 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm /hackenv/asmbf-1.2.6.zip
< 1577808607 40132 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls
> 1577808611 824356 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User talk:Hex9614]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68506&oldid=68505 5* 03Hex96 5* (+78) 10/* Other Chat and questions */
< 1577808620 735548 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls
< 1577808621 301359 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :asmbf-1.1.1 \ asmbf-1.2.6 \ asmbf-1.2.6.tar.gz \ asmbf-1.2.6.zip \ banana.txt \ bfi \ compiled_brachylog.pl \ just \ karma \ le \ paste \ program \ spline \ spout \ test \ test.sh \ v1.2.7.tar.gz \ what.tar.gz
< 1577808623 261453 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1577808624 213072 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :asmbf-1.1.1 \ asmbf-1.2.6 \ asmbf-1.2.6.tar.gz \ asmbf-1.2.6.zip \ banana.txt \ bfi \ compiled_brachylog.pl \ just \ karma \ le \ paste \ program \ spline \ spout \ test \ test.sh \ v1.2.7.tar.gz \ what.tar.gz
< 1577808637 581364 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`tar -xzf what.tar.gz
< 1577808638 643552 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :tar (child):  what.tar.gz: Cannot open: No such file or directory \ tar (child): Error is not recoverable: exiting now \ tar: Child returned status 2 \ tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
< 1577808644 80406 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :?
< 1577808647 921517 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it doesn't really exist
< 1577808652 30338 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but ls is showing it?
< 1577808666 193399 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`tar -xzf v1.2.7.tar.gz
< 1577808667 121832 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :tar (child):  v1.2.7.tar.gz: Cannot open: No such file or directory \ tar (child): Error is not recoverable: exiting now \ tar: Child returned status 2 \ tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
< 1577808673 521072 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm done
< 1577808690 417354 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`tar -xzf /hackenv/tmp/v1.2.7.tar.gz
< 1577808691 216911 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :tar (child):  /hackenv/tmp/v1.2.7.tar.gz: Cannot open: No such file or directory \ tar (child): Error is not recoverable: exiting now \ tar: Child returned status 2 \ tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
< 1577808696 969379 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls /hackenv/tmp
< 1577808698 15551 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :asmbf-1.1.1 \ asmbf-1.2.6 \ asmbf-1.2.6.tar.gz \ asmbf-1.2.6.zip \ banana.txt \ bfi \ compiled_brachylog.pl \ just \ karma \ le \ paste \ program \ spline \ spout \ test \ test.sh \ v1.2.7.tar.gz \ what.tar.gz
< 1577808710 172540 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls /hackenv/
< 1577808712 485354 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls /hackenv/
< 1577808713 625748 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin \ canary \ emoticons \ esobible \ etc \ f \ factor \ hw \ ibin \ interps \ karma \ karma.orig \ karma.rej \ le \ lib \ misle \ paste \ ply-3.8 \ quines \ quotes \ share \ src \ stuff \ tmflry \ tmp \ wisdom
< 1577808722 395666 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no idea what happens
< 1577808733 766288 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CC fizzie
> 1577808734 834818 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Your14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68507&oldid=68154 5* 03Hex96 5* (+142) 10
> 1577808851 101539 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Your14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68508&oldid=68454 5* 03Hex96 5* (+128) 10
< 1577809062 946716 :bunnyocto!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq begin asm clr r0 end asm %r0?
< 1577809063 851688 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | 0
< 1577809078 535189 :bunnyocto!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :blsqbot please do quit
< 1577809078 697905 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@178.197.228.160 QUIT :Quit: Exiting
< 1577809080 189211 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait a second
< 1577809096 640065 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this syntax is very close to my assembler
< 1577809151 177720 :bunnyocto!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so we can all enjoy doing our mov r0, r1; inc r0; mul r2, r3; 
< 1577809159 243890 :bunnyocto!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :forwhatever reason you'd ever need to do that in blsq but
< 1577809193 570471 :bunnyocto!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want it to be a language where people look at it and say "What the FUCKING FUCK is this FUCKING shit"
< 1577809288 207359 :bunnyocto!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also I used it at work
< 1577809291 236015 :bunnyocto!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :to do SQL stuff
< 1577809295 739263 :bunnyocto!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the reason it has MySQL support
< 1577809306 930832 :bunnyocto!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my supervisor was shocked :D
< 1577809311 722303 :bunnyocto!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but
< 1577809320 135602 :bunnyocto!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :iiwtiw
< 1577809321 75169 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my registers start from r1
< 1577809354 670133 :bunnyocto!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :blsq even has generators
< 1577809360 391792 :bunnyocto!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is super cool
< 1577809401 39808 :bunnyocto!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 1{?i}C~ is a generator that produces 1..infinity
< 1577809509 517275 :bunnyocto!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :0 1{3?+}C~[-1+] is a generator for multiples of 3, to infinity
< 1577809647 584275 :bunnyocto!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm seriously going to write an IRC bot in burlesque
< 1577809768 450533 :bunnyocto!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has the concept of chans and async events and shit
< 1577809797 185777 :bunnyocto!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's grown up, it's a fully fledged language.
< 1577809811 250975 :bunnyocto!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well... gotta go
< 1577809824 654770 :bunnyocto!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 QUIT :Quit: see you in blsq town
< 1577809850 974701 :heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-rtubovciqjghedrn JOIN :#esoteric
< 1577810451 515564 :stux|away!stux@cosmo.lunarshells.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds
< 1577810575 472606 :TellsTogo!b2751b2c@178-117-27-44.access.telenet.be QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1577811005 943136 :stux|away!stux@cosmo.lunarshells.com JOIN :#esoteric
< 1577811094 499827 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: can you do symbolic integration, twh
< 1577811094 980111 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: maybe i'll search for files named like ubuntu's already existing layouts. and then the rest comes naturally. no one
< 1577811370 456422 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode JOIN :#esoteric
< 1577811521 788886 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-254.catv.broadband.hu JOIN :#esoteric
< 1577811576 398237 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :arseniiv_: as our channel somehow doesn't seem to have australian regulars, you're probably in the easternmost known timezone, so I'll have to ask you to open the #esoteric new year celebrations at your new year
< 1577811593 834020 :arseniiv_!~arseniiv@94.41.41.57.dynamic.ufanet.ru NICK :arseniiv
< 1577811628 820943 :imode-ruby!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's presuming he's not on fire.
< 1577811637 295088 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.41.57.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: thanks :) This will be two houes later
< 1577811641 795648 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.41.57.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :hours*
< 1577811668 73902 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :arseniiv: sure, I just want to warn you early
< 1577811687 85246 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :imode-ruby: who? the nonexistant australian?
< 1577811826 763080 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.41.57.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :imode-ruby: actually I’m quite wet, I can’t do anything with wet hands issue every time after I washed them too much in something like a shampoo e. g. being in a bath
< 1577811890 843568 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.41.57.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :and this is very inconvenient and it lasts hours
< 1577811976 922756 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :bunnyocto: people use Dyalog APL and Arthur Whitney's K APL-like, together with databases, for work in finance. and tswett just said that he wants to start working in finance, maybe you can talk to them and tell them why that's a bad idea.
< 1577812193 170568 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kspalaiologos: Re your question about tar, when you use ` you're passing just one command-line argument, so your filenames have an extra space in them.
< 1577812216 727468 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :man
< 1577812217 119382 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can see that in the error message: "tar (child):  what.tar.gz: Cannot open" -- see the double space there? 
< 1577812230 65124 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fine
< 1577812232 554639 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see
< 1577812239 598898 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` tar -xzf /hackenv/tmp/v1.2.7.tar.gz
< 1577812242 153133 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ \ gzip: stdin: unexpected end of file \ tar: Unexpected EOF in archive \ tar: Unexpected EOF in archive \ tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
< 1577812245 521630 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about
< 1577812250 883114 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fetch getting crazy?
< 1577812252 141356 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls
< 1577812253 108855 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :asmbf-1.1.1 \ asmbf-1.2.6 \ asmbf-1.2.6.tar.gz \ asmbf-1.2.6.zip \ asmbf-1.2.7 \ banana.txt \ bfi \ compiled_brachylog.pl \ just \ karma \ le \ paste \ program \ spline \ spout \ test \ test.sh \ v1.2.7.tar.gz \ what.tar.gz
< 1577812259 37355 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm asmbf-1.2.6
< 1577812259 813007 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1577812261 233568 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm asmbf-1.2.6.tar.gz
< 1577812262 181055 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1577812264 209363 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm asmbf-1.2.6.zip
< 1577812265 257320 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1577812272 61413 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm v1.2.7.tar.gz
< 1577812273 219857 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1577812274 609382 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls ..
< 1577812275 909003 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin \ canary \ emoticons \ esobible \ etc \ f \ factor \ hw \ ibin \ interps \ karma \ karma.orig \ karma.rej \ le \ lib \ misle \ paste \ ply-3.8 \ quines \ quotes \ share \ src \ stuff \ tmflry \ tmp \ wisdom
< 1577812294 592904 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a 10-megabyte size limit as well, just in general for everything running on it. Is this file larger than that? 
< 1577812315 466861 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds
< 1577812358 389719 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Apparently not. Hmm, weird.)
< 1577812435 364252 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: could it be a confusion about tmp and writing the version-controlled parts?
< 1577812471 360398 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kspalaiologos: you don't need the -z option for tar extraction these days by the way, unless you're reading a non-seekable archive
< 1577812478 112637 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That should be fine.
< 1577812507 785661 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know if wget might be doing something odd for the case where the webserver doesn't specify a Content-Length. Sounds unlikely though.
< 1577812536 510696 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas, that's how one of my older friends teached me
< 1577812538 805354 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` zcat /hackenv/tmp/v1.2.7.tar.gz | wc -c
< 1577812539 204312 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(GitHub's archive download doesn't specify one, maybe because they might end up making it on the fly.)
< 1577812540 93832 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :gzip: /hackenv/tmp/v1.2.7.tar.gz: No such file or directory \ 0
< 1577812541 201177 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :by a very simple mnemonic
< 1577812558 681070 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :xzf = eXtract Ze Giles
< 1577812560 191512 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, you deleted it
< 1577812566 607793 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's try downloading that one more time.
< 1577812567 629957 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`fetch asmbf-1.2.6.tar.gz https://github.com/KrzysztofSzewczyk/asmbf/archive/v1.2.7.tar.gz
< 1577812572 131543 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cannot write to ‘/hackenv/tmp/asmbf-1.2.6.tar.gz’ (File too large).
< 1577812576 541488 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls -l asmbf-1.2.6.tar.gz
< 1577812577 761115 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​-rw-r--r-- 1 1000 1000 10240 Dec 31 17:16 asmbf-1.2.6.tar.gz
< 1577812585 488050 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmmmm.
< 1577812587 7469 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :file too large... ok
< 1577812602 911665 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I maybe accidentally made the 10240 kilobytes 10240 bytes instead.
< 1577812644 737640 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did tweak the way those resource limits are set, maybe the units are different for setrlimit(2) vs. bash ulimit command.
< 1577812649 855953 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll fix that in a bit, lunchtime now.
< 1577812665 289945 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, or is it dinner? Some kind of food anyway.
< 1577812674 998451 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, after that we may have some regulars in Finland, which is the +2 timezone, then a lot of regulars in Germany and Norway and me in the +1 timezone, then a lot of regulars in England plus HackEso and possibly someone in Iceland in the +0 timezone, and then of course the east coast Americans in the -5 timezone
< 1577812688 335728 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm
< 1577812690 757032 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunch?
< 1577812716 950418 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's "brunch", there should be something for this as well. Though I suppose you just call it a late lunch.
< 1577812726 857371 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` perl -e 'print "a"x10241' > /hackenv/tmp/kVfyUkJd
< 1577812728 104998 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1577812738 337357 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` perl -e 'print "a"x10241 or die "write $!"' > /hackenv/tmp/kVfyUkJd
< 1577812739 376966 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1577812743 821371 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` perl -e 'print "a"x102400 or die "write $!"' > /hackenv/tmp/kVfyUkJd
< 1577812744 904970 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1577812778 241430 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` set -e; s=/hackenv/tmp/kVfyUkJd; perl -e 'print "a"x1026000 or die "write $!"' >$s; ls -l "$s"
< 1577812779 473280 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​-rw-r--r-- 1 1000 1000 1026000 Dec 31 17:19 /hackenv/tmp/kVfyUkJd
< 1577812792 809356 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` set -e; s=/hackenv/tmp/kVfyUkJd; perl -e 'print "a"x1_200_000 or die "write $!"' >$s; ls -l "$s"
< 1577812793 921948 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​-rw-r--r-- 1 1000 1000 1200000 Dec 31 17:19 /hackenv/tmp/kVfyUkJd
< 1577812801 715265 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` set -e; s=/hackenv/tmp/kVfyUkJd; perl -e 'print "a"x12_000_000 or die "write $!"' >$s; ls -l "$s"
< 1577812805 945548 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a restaurant called "Drunch" (a pizza/kebab kind of place) back in Helsinki.
< 1577812814 441199 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: line 1:    54 File size limit exceededperl -e 'print "a"x12_000_000 or die "write $!"' > $s
< 1577812820 630688 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: `fetch is different though.
< 1577812833 374447 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :So looks like I've got the limits right in the sandbox, but not for fetch.
< 1577812839 985379 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` set -e; s=/hackenv/tmp/kVfyUkJd; ls -l "$s"
< 1577812841 337071 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​-rw-r--r-- 1 1000 1000 10485760 Dec 31 17:20 /hackenv/tmp/kVfyUkJd
< 1577812843 461394 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` set -e; s=/hackenv/tmp/kVfyUkJd; rm -v "$s"
< 1577812844 717099 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :removed '/hackenv/tmp/kVfyUkJd'
< 1577812850 669408 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I see
< 1577812855 873812 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently there's many restaurants called Drunch.
< 1577812923 346150 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"r", hmm.
< 1577813054 936692 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, DinneR, maybe.
< 1577813156 986379 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm afraid the r comes from "brunch". :)
< 1577813486 152378 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the "Dr" comes from "drink" because you can order drinks in the restaurant
< 1577813525 340562 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh heck, the "drun" comes from "drunk" because you can order so many drinks you end up getting drunk, and the "ch" comes from "cheap" because you can order those drinks cheap
< 1577813863 926695 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.41.57.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :sad :D
< 1577813876 249441 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`fetch asmbf-1.2.6.tar.gz https://github.com/KrzysztofSzewczyk/asmbf/archive/v1.2.7.tar.gz
< 1577813878 276921 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :2019-12-31 17:37:57 URL:https://codeload.github.com/KrzysztofSzewczyk/asmbf/tar.gz/v1.2.7 [41301] -> "/hackenv/tmp/asmbf-1.2.6.tar.gz" [1]
< 1577813881 295036 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls -l asmbf-1.2.6.tar.gz
< 1577813889 707443 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​-rw-r--r-- 1 1000 1000 41301 Dec 31 17:37 asmbf-1.2.6.tar.gz
< 1577813891 139830 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's more like it.
< 1577813925 261382 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? alice
< 1577813927 5037 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alice doesn't want to go among mad people.
< 1577813996 165374 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.41.57.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Bob
< 1577813997 517232 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bob? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1577814010 266318 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.41.57.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :hopefully Bob isn’t mad
< 1577814027 505079 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`fetch too-big-file http://ftp.funet.fi/pub/linux/kernel/v5.x/linux-5.4.tar.xz
< 1577814029 577136 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cannot write to ‘/hackenv/tmp/too-big-file’ (File too large).
< 1577814031 813368 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls -l too-big-file
< 1577814032 889640 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​-rw-r--r-- 1 1000 1000 10485760 Dec 31 17:40 too-big-file
< 1577814038 814146 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm too-big-file
< 1577814039 629038 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1577814060 887300 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kspalaiologos: fizzie fixed fetch
< 1577814072 440519 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :great
< 1577814078 33361 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls
< 1577814079 196674 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :asmbf-1.1.1 \ asmbf-1.2.6.tar.gz \ asmbf-1.2.7 \ banana.txt \ bfi \ compiled_brachylog.pl \ just \ karma \ le \ paste \ program \ spline \ spout \ test \ test.sh \ what.tar.gz
< 1577814087 499673 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cd asmbf-1.2.7
< 1577814088 311200 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :cd? No such file or directory
< 1577814092 983928 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is it
< 1577814093 538484 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then
< 1577814102 465371 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` rm -rf asmbf-1.1.1 # not needed
< 1577814103 439440 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1577814120 37365 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` tar -xzf asmbf-1.2.7
< 1577814120 933087 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :tar (child): asmbf-1.2.7: Cannot read: Is a directory \ tar (child): At beginning of tape, quitting now \ tar (child): Error is not recoverable: exiting now \  \ gzip: stdin: unexpected end of file \ tar: Child returned status 2 \ tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
< 1577814128 925464 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` cd asmbf-1.2.7
< 1577814131 779359 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1577814132 921379 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` cd asmbf-1.2.7 && ls
< 1577814134 417339 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :AUTHORS \ INSTALL \ LICENSE \ Makefile \ NEWS \ README \ VERSIONING \ bconv.c \ bfasm.asm \ bfasm.b
< 1577814143 723004 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's more like it
< 1577814149 969387 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` cd asmbf-1.2.7 && make
< 1577814150 899023 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :make: *** No rule to make target 'bfasm', needed by 'all'.  Stop.
< 1577814155 888096 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That might be an incomplete thing.
< 1577814168 947267 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I only fixed `fetch, I didn't re-uncompress the thing.
< 1577814169 517388 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` cd asmbf-1.2.7 && ls bfasm.c
< 1577814170 635655 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access 'bfasm.c': No such file or directory
< 1577814172 819925 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fine
< 1577814173 247392 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok
< 1577814173 978465 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cd ..
< 1577814183 413374 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` rm -rf asmbf-1.2.7
< 1577814184 193056 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1577814194 549370 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` tar -xzf asmbf-1.2.6.tar.gz
< 1577814195 457084 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1577814198 573382 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :```ls
< 1577814199 525898 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​``ls? No such file or directory
< 1577814200 856275 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` ls
< 1577814202 232383 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :asmbf-1.2.6.tar.gz \ asmbf-1.2.7 \ banana.txt \ bfi \ compiled_brachylog.pl \ just \ karma \ le \ paste \ program \ spline \ spout \ test \ test.sh \ what.tar.gz
< 1577814210 85374 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` cd asmbf-1.2.7 && make
< 1577814214 974416 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh.
< 1577814216 121234 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :bfintd.c: In function 'main': \ bfintd.c:111:51: warning: format '%d' expects argument of type 'int', but argument 2 has type 'long int' [-Wformat=] \                      printf("Access Violation, ip=%d", ip); \                                                   ~^   ~~ \                                                   %ld \ bfintd.c:166:27: warning: format '%X' expects argument of type 'unsigned int', but argument 3 has type 'long int' [-Wf
< 1577814222 792534 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this garbage is normal
< 1577814228 492312 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it built theoretically
< 1577814239 225368 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` ls asmbf-1.2.7/bin
< 1577814240 405180 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :bconv \ bfasm \ bfi \ bfi-rle \ bfintd \ bfmake \ bfpp \ derle.pl \ labels.pl \ strip.pl
< 1577814242 282540 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep
< 1577814281 497368 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` ls /hackenv/bin
< 1577814282 653014 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​welcome \ 04w08e09l11c12o13m04e \  \  \  \ echo \ ! \ " \ # \ ' \ ( \ ,1 \ ,2 \ 1 \ 13 \ 1492 \ 2 \ 2014 \ 2015 \ 2016 \ 2017 \ 3 \ 4 \ 5 \ 5quote \ 5w \ 8-ball \ 8ball \ <command> \ ? \ ?? \ ?h \ ?hh \ @ \ CaT \ CoInS \ Eternity \ FireFlist \ No \ ReLcOmE \ WELCOME \ WeLcOmE \ Welcome \ ^.^ \ ` \ `^ \ `` \ `̀ \ aaaaaaaaa \ acronym \ addquote \ addscowrevs \ addtodo \ addwhatis \ age \ aglist \ airport \ airport-lookup \ al
< 1577814288 521364 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` ls /hackenv/bin/bfasm
< 1577814289 625197 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/bfasm
< 1577814291 749332 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's there
< 1577814303 123801 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can I make another directory for all that my garbage?
< 1577814307 355423 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kspalaiologos: sure
< 1577814312 281381 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially in lib or share
< 1577814317 889379 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` mkdir /hackenv/bin/bfasm
< 1577814318 796992 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :mkdir: cannot create directory '/hackenv/bin/bfasm': File exists
< 1577814321 705355 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah yes
< 1577814323 404642 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :forgot to remove
< 1577814328 781381 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` rm /hackenv/bin/bfasm
< 1577814331 180983 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1577814332 207288 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` mkdir /hackenv/bin/bfasm
< 1577814333 221182 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1577814333 933395 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` ls -abF /hackenv/lib
< 1577814335 63827 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​./ \ ../ \ c++decl* \ cdecl@ \ frink* \ frink.jar \ interp \ karma* \ morse-decode* \ p7zip-16.02/
< 1577814337 649405 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` ls -abF /hackenv/share
< 1577814338 889411 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​./ \ ../ \ 8ballreplies \ Complaints.mp3 \ UnicodeData.txt \ WordData/ \ airports.dat \ autowelcome_status \ awesome \ ballreplies \ candide* \ cat \ conscripts \ construct_grams.pl* \ delvs-master/ \ dict/ \ dict-words \ esolangs.txt \ esolangs.txt.sorted \ headers \ headers.gch \ hello* \ lua/ \ maimer \ maimery \ maze* \ mtg/ \ nothp \ recipe/ \ scapegoats \ scowrevs \ sedtest \ unic.txt \ units.dat \ usercmds \ whatis \ wisdom@
< 1577814340 185363 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` ls -abF /hackenv/libexec
< 1577814341 513079 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access '/hackenv/libexec': No such file or directory
< 1577814347 832762 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not interested
< 1577814373 799604 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` cp -rf /hackenv/tmp/asmbf-1.2.7/bin/* /hackenv/bin/bfasm/*
< 1577814375 742061 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :cp: target '/hackenv/bin/bfasm/*' is not a directory
< 1577814380 267605 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :A directory as /hackenv/bin/bfasm will prevent you from having a command `bfasm though.
< 1577814390 108386 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm
< 1577814395 518269 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok
< 1577814408 868763 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I recommend creating it under /hackenv/lib instead
< 1577814412 701969 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` rm -rf /hackenv/bin/bfasm
< 1577814413 692961 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1577814426 509376 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` mkdir -f /hackenv/lib/kps/
< 1577814427 521110 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :mkdir: invalid option -- 'f' \ Try 'mkdir --help' for more information.
< 1577814431 193089 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` mkdir /hackenv/lib/kps/
< 1577814432 127220 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1577814443 189371 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` cp -rf /hackenv/tmp/asmbf-1.2.7/bin/* /hackenv/lib/kps/*
< 1577814444 82685 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :cp: target '/hackenv/lib/kps/*' is not a directory
< 1577814447 621525 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` cp -rf /hackenv/tmp/asmbf-1.2.7/bin/* /hackenv/lib/kps/
< 1577814450 365060 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1577814458 304388 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls /hackenv/lib/kps
< 1577814463 866098 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :?
< 1577814467 917942 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :No `.
< 1577814473 746547 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or ``, or ```.
< 1577814476 63930 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gosh, what a derp
< 1577814485 710814 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` cls /hackenv/lib/kps
< 1577814489 273392 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` ls /hackenv/lib/kps
< 1577814490 96971 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: cls: command not found
< 1577814493 689587 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :bconv \ bfasm \ bfi \ bfi-rle \ bfintd \ bfmake \ bfpp \ derle.pl \ labels.pl \ strip.pl
< 1577814498 245907 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so now theoreticallty
< 1577814509 929393 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` kps/bfasm <<<"out .0"
< 1577814510 898781 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: kps/bfasm: No such file or directory
< 1577814518 901392 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` kps\bfasm <<<"out .0"
< 1577814519 781013 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: kpsbfasm: command not found
< 1577814540 175438 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems like the path doesn't work like I expected it to
< 1577814549 830692 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not a problem though
< 1577814555 428762 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not really all that feasible to have foo/bar commands, because of the way path lookups work.
< 1577814567 477373 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` cat /hackenv/bin/asmbf
< 1577814568 377078 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :print_args_or_input "$@" |tr / \\n | labels.pl | bfasm
< 1577814570 106467 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the script is here
< 1577814577 817630 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just modify it
< 1577814580 147741 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what was the command
< 1577814581 145403 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`help
< 1577814581 222934 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :Runs arbitrary code in GNU/Linux. Type "`<command>", or "`run <command>" for full shell commands. "`fetch [<output-file>] <URL>" downloads files. Files saved to $HACKENV are persistent, and $HACKENV/bin is in $PATH. $HACKENV is a mercurial repository, "`revert <rev>" can be used to revert, https://hack.esolangs.org/repo/ to browse. $PWD ($HACKENV/tmp) is persistent but unversioned, /tmp is ephemeral.
< 1577814599 809420 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`edit
< 1577814600 889057 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://hack.esolangs.org/edit/
< 1577814608 355412 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`edit /hackenv/bin/asmbf
< 1577814614 978160 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://hack.esolangs.org/edit/bin/asmbf
< 1577814617 43491 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just FYI, I don't think I've fixed the `fetch commands output by `edit.
< 1577814658 241647 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok
< 1577814859 186677 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kspalaiologos: you can put symlinks or wrappers in bin, even if the bulk of the stuff is installed under libexec or elsewhere
< 1577814866 190125 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(yes, I know we don't yet have a libexec)
< 1577815127 459724 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, fixed `edit, at least provisionally.
< 1577815146 822688 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: the encoding problem or the url problem of `edit ?
< 1577815153 94109 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/url/filename/
< 1577815154 826045 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, just the `fetch command samples.
< 1577815164 262488 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I guess the url problem, right.
< 1577815217 816224 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The encoding problem probably involves a little more understanding than the filename problem.
< 1577815224 488782 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah
< 1577815423 495496 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds
< 1577816029 896707 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.41.57.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :they say Betelgeuse dimmed to a degree
< 1577816084 182018 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :arseniiv: because of the collapsing Hrung disaster?
< 1577816211 479254 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.41.57.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: dunno :D
< 1577816519 725922 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :prepare the noisemakers and the new year sausage and lentils
< 1577816756 641396 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`fetch /hackenv/bin/asmbf https://hack.esolangs.org/get/bin/asmbf
< 1577816758 24956 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :2019-12-31 18:25:57 URL:https://hack.esolangs.org/get/bin/asmbf [250/250] -> "/hackenv/bin/asmbf" [1]
< 1577816821 69394 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`asmbf "STK 2/ORG 0/TXT "Hello World!"/DB_ 0/@LOOP/RCL R2, R1/JZ_ R2, 0/OUT R2/INC R1/JMP %LOOP"
< 1577816822 193358 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/asmbf: line 2: /hackenv/lib/kps/bfpp: Permission denied \ /hackenv/bin/asmbf: line 3: /tmp/no-toucha-prgm.p: No such file or directory \ /hackenv/bin/asmbf: line 3: /hackenv/lib/kps/strip.pl: Permission denied
< 1577816826 288483 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bruh
< 1577816833 517395 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll set the perms in a second
< 1577816869 89369 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` chmod -R +x /hackenv/lib/kps/
< 1577816872 136924 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1577816874 617378 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`asmbf "STK 2/ORG 0/TXT "Hello World!"/DB_ 0/@LOOP/RCL R2, R1/JZ_ R2, 0/OUT R2/INC R1/JMP %LOOP"
< 1577816876 220891 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​<stdin>:4:1: warning: missing terminating " character \ <stdin>:13:10: warning: missing terminating " character \ /hackenv/lib/kps/bfpp: line 6: /bin/labels.pl: No such file or directory \ /hackenv/bin/asmbf: line 3: /tmp/no-toucha-prgm.p: No such file or directory
< 1577816883 190713 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh fine
< 1577816883 446715 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok
< 1577816893 213448 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`asmbf "STK 2/ORG 0/TXT \"Hello World!\"/DB_ 0/@LOOP/RCL R2, R1/JZ_ R2, 0/OUT R2/INC R1/JMP %LOOP"
< 1577816895 821680 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​<stdin>:4:1: warning: missing terminating " character \ <stdin>:6:6: warning: missing terminating " character \ <stdin>:13:10: warning: missing terminating " character \ /hackenv/lib/kps/bfpp: line 6: /bin/labels.pl: No such file or directory \ /hackenv/bin/asmbf: line 3: /tmp/no-toucha-prgm.p: No such file or directory
< 1577816918 925377 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`asmbf STK 2/ORG 0/TXT "Hello World!"/DB_ 0/@LOOP/RCL R2, R1/JZ_ R2, 0/OUT R2/INC R1/JMP %LOOP
< 1577816920 460924 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/lib/kps/bfpp: line 6: /bin/labels.pl: No such file or directory \ /hackenv/bin/asmbf: line 3: /tmp/no-toucha-prgm.p: No such file or directory
< 1577816932 601848 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah
< 1577816934 275490 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the references
< 1577816959 475165 :ArthurStrong!~ArthurStr@slow.wreckage.volia.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1577816978 69376 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`fetch /hackenv/lib/kps/bfpp https://hack.esolangs.org/get/lib/kps/bfpp
< 1577816979 285032 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :2019-12-31 18:29:38 URL:https://hack.esolangs.org/get/lib/kps/bfpp [305/305] -> "/hackenv/lib/kps/bfpp" [1]
< 1577816981 149380 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`asmbf STK 2/ORG 0/TXT "Hello World!"/DB_ 0/@LOOP/RCL R2, R1/JZ_ R2, 0/OUT R2/INC R1/JMP %LOOP
< 1577816983 356934 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/asmbf: line 3: /tmp/no-toucha-prgm.p: No such file or directory
< 1577816987 841095 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bruh
< 1577817000 377366 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls
< 1577817004 653925 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :asmbf-1.2.6.tar.gz \ asmbf-1.2.7 \ banana.txt \ bfi \ compiled_brachylog.pl \ just \ karma \ le \ paste \ program \ spline \ spout \ test \ test.sh \ what.tar.gz
< 1577817068 945404 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`fetch /hackenv/bin/asmbf https://hack.esolangs.org/get/bin/asmbf
< 1577817070 127805 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :2019-12-31 18:31:09 URL:https://hack.esolangs.org/get/bin/asmbf [298/298] -> "/hackenv/bin/asmbf" [1]
< 1577817072 29372 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`asmbf STK 2/ORG 0/TXT "Hello World!"/DB_ 0/@LOOP/RCL R2, R1/JZ_ R2, 0/OUT R2/INC R1/JMP %LOOP
< 1577817073 596887 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/asmbf: line 3: /hackenv/tmp/no-toucha-prgm.p: No such file or directory
< 1577817157 929390 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` cat <<<"out .0" > test.asm
< 1577817159 53174 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1577817162 293381 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` cat test.asm
< 1577817163 699359 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :out .0
< 1577817178 885388 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` /hackenv/lib/kps/bfpp /hackenv/tmp/test.asm
< 1577817180 484977 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1577817182 589391 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls
< 1577817184 33205 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :asmbf-1.2.6.tar.gz \ asmbf-1.2.7 \ banana.txt \ bfi \ compiled_brachylog.pl \ just \ karma \ le \ no-toucha-prgm.asm.p \ output.b \ paste \ program \ spline \ spout \ test \ test.asm \ test.asm.p \ test.sh \ what.tar.gz
< 1577817196 77422 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm output.b
< 1577817197 306660 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1577817199 913421 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm test.asm
< 1577817200 916935 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1577817201 141431 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm test.asm.p
< 1577817201 981399 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1577817221 473373 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`fetch /hackenv/bin/asmbf https://hack.esolangs.org/get/bin/asmbf
< 1577817222 613500 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :2019-12-31 18:33:41 URL:https://hack.esolangs.org/get/bin/asmbf [306/306] -> "/hackenv/bin/asmbf" [1]
< 1577817225 605362 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`asmbf STK 2/ORG 0/TXT "Hello World!"/DB_ 0/@LOOP/RCL R2, R1/JZ_ R2, 0/OUT R2/INC R1/JMP %LOOP
< 1577817227 325230 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1577817232 837363 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` cat output.b
< 1577817233 833114 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​+>+[<[>>+>+<<<-]>>[<<+>>-]>[[-]>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>[-]>++++++++[<+++++++++>-]>[-]>++++[<+++++>-]<[>+++++<-]>+[-<+>]>[-]>+++[<++++++>-]<[>++++++<-]>[-<+>]>[-]>+++[<++++++>-]<[>++++++<-]>[-<+>]>[-]>++++[<+++++>-]<++[>+++++<-]>+[-<+>]>[-]>+++++[<++++++>-]<++>>[-]>+++[<+++++>-]<++[>+++++<-]>++[-<+>]>[-]>++++[<+++++>-]<++[>+++++<-]>+[-<+>]>[-]>+++[<++++++>-]<+[>++++++<-]>[-<+>]>[-]>+++[<++++++>-]<[>++++++<-]>[-<+>]>[-]>++++[<+++++>-]<[>+++++<-]
< 1577817236 860503 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay, works!
< 1577817273 577378 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` ./bfi output.b
< 1577817274 651932 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello World!
< 1577817278 913356 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :perfect
< 1577818297 777365 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` wc output.b
< 1577818298 817396 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​   0    1 1126 output.b
< 1577818299 838188 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.41.57.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :well I think I should start the celebration relay now as at 0:00 I would be occupied :D Happy NY, let our wishes fulfill themselves in as direct and unassisted manner as possible!
< 1577818316 269634 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay!
< 1577818327 764618 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :launch the fireworks! cut the ribbons! 
< 1577818357 616607 :ArthurStrong!~ArthurStr@slow.wreckage.volia.net PART :#esoteric
< 1577818369 297669 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd like to keep the fireworks imaginary... but no... people are not cooperative today.
< 1577818451 346961 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.41.57.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :(let there be less celebratory injuries also as a separate thing, as they unfortunately are pretty common)
< 1577818848 956380 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Happy New Year to the +5 timezone
< 1577819594 154818 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK; I am in -8 timezone
< 1577819633 746950 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hah. I might be awake again when you cross over.
< 1577819875 343646 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK
< 1577820030 801757 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.41.57.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :I find a lime-flavored Skittles in a cup of green tea appealing. I’ll try other flavors the other day
< 1577820050 269095 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.41.57.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :it flavors the tea nicely
< 1577820114 64484 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.41.57.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe a real lemon slice would accompany them even better, though that won’t mix well with milk or ice cream
< 1577822019 271064 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.41.57.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :<b_jonas> cut the ribbons! => done! https://i.postimg.cc/3xt7Bg3M/Screenshot-2100.png
< 1577822150 54145 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe "ribbon"
< 1577822505 154705 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :russian office?
< 1577822507 249607 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're russian!
< 1577822509 332025 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where do you live?
< 1577822513 53329 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(which city)
< 1577822540 717936 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kspalaiologos: we don't know, but we know which timezon
< 1577822627 344832 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.41.57.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :kspalaiologos: hehehe I won’t say while I’m sober :P
< 1577822656 263120 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it won't last long /s
< 1577822660 384613 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which timezone is it?
< 1577822667 753824 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.41.57.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :UTC+5
< 1577822699 783886 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nearly in the middle of Russia
< 1577822708 218536 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice
< 1577822749 323577 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.41.57.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw timezones here are partly an irregular mess. At the start of twentieth century they were much more regular but then various regions conglomerated with one another for shady reasons
< 1577822762 74875 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah I see on the map
< 1577822868 215565 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.41.57.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah at least I’m glad I’m not too far from the “capital area”, due to centralization it’s way better to live nearer than somewhere near e. g. Pacific ocean. There are several large centers but they aren’t enough
< 1577823148 579446 :bunnyocto!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1577823166 70805 :bunnyocto!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also as an addendum to whatever somebody said sometime ago: blsq has variable length commands
< 1577823171 61715 :bunnyocto!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's no limit on the length of a command
< 1577823182 750316 :bunnyocto!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a lower limit of 1 character though.
< 1577823200 687691 :bunnyocto!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or so you'd think
< 1577823205 966787 :bunnyocto!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but there's actually none
< 1577823214 197778 :bunnyocto!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the empty string is a perfectly valid builtin
< 1577823271 399607 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@178.197.228.160 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1577823297 626455 :bunnyocto!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :evidently
< 1577823301 565413 :bunnyocto!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq %=5
< 1577823302 578788 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | Ain't nobody got output fo' that!
< 1577823309 357021 :bunnyocto!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is a valid assignment.
< 1577823319 982384 :bunnyocto!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq %x=5 %=7 %x?
< 1577823320 403644 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | 5
< 1577823326 656680 :bunnyocto!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq %x=5 %=7 %?
< 1577823327 185366 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | ERROR: (line 1, column 12):
< 1577823327 191981 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | unexpected end of input
< 1577823346 739444 :bunnyocto!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq %=5""gv
< 1577823347 251130 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | 5
< 1577823351 604391 :bunnyocto!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so there you go
< 1577823416 578568 :bunnyocto!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also
< 1577823418 777243 :bunnyocto!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq %={S[S[}3``
< 1577823419 91018 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | 81
< 1577823446 597177 :bunnyocto!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this way we bind create a userdefined command and bind it to the empty string 
< 1577823470 939262 :bunnyocto!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so trivially commands can have 0 or more characters.
< 1577823543 699986 :bunnyocto!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq (ab)Sh
< 1577823543 964864 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | "ab"
< 1577823549 456775 :bunnyocto!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq (`` )Sh
< 1577823549 740265 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | ""
< 1577823554 280921 :bunnyocto!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :see.
< 1577823555 834767 :bunnyocto!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :empty string.
< 1577823592 64823 :bunnyocto!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq ``abcdefgh
< 1577823592 256324 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | ERROR: Unknown command: (abcdefgh)!
< 1577823603 485536 :bunnyocto!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :see. arbitrary long command.
< 1577823626 874822 :bunnyocto!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq %abcdefgh=5 ``abcdefgh
< 1577823627 130627 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | 5
< 1577823728 177558 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :welcome back, bunnyocto. in which timezone are you celebrating New Year?
< 1577823777 390195 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :variable length commands. ok.
< 1577823831 231123 :bunnyocto!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :switzerland so CET I guess
< 1577823898 991762 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :bunnyocto: does blsq have mutable cells (things where you can copy the reference to the cell, assign values to it, and retrieve the value)? does it have logic programming style backtracking, and retractable and preserved assignments to cells (whether to the same kind of cell or different kinds doesn't matter)?
< 1577823910 488173 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, that would make a multiparadigm language
< 1577824109 783722 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it can also be hard to implement
< 1577824393 441842 :moony!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony NICK :notmoony
< 1577824464 721090 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But they don't use coffee in medieval English, I think.
< 1577824807 409546 :notmoony!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony NICK :moony
< 1577825232 107579 :bunnyocto!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: do you know MVars?
< 1577825244 910192 :bunnyocto!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or chans
< 1577825386 978725 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :bunnyocto: sure, if you have threading you could use those too, but I was thinking plain not too threadsafe variables at first, without threads
< 1577825401 559704 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :haskell IO actually has those too under some name
< 1577825415 755512 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, MKun and MChan
< 1577825417 970297 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mostliy because they have the invariant of being always full
< 1577825491 579102 :bunnyocto19!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1577825505 635506 :bunnyocto19!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well there's mcJ{}j+]{rc}fk2wc for example
< 1577825519 202171 :bunnyocto19!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which creates a thread waiting for something to be written to the chan
< 1577825531 68638 :bunnyocto19!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :other than that as far as references go
< 1577825540 581502 :bunnyocto19!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sortof
< 1577825543 383540 :bunnyocto19!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean
< 1577825562 440965 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@178.197.228.160 QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds
< 1577825577 674629 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@178.197.228.160 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1577825591 604207 :bunnyocto!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds
< 1577825613 809154 :bunnyocto19!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq %5=3 {1 2 3}{5sv}m[%5?
< 1577825615 31745 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | 3
< 1577825615 39186 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | {}
< 1577825621 291867 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :bunnyocto19: are there cells (not just named variables) that you can read multiple times? ones you can assign multiple times as well?
< 1577825650 154633 :bunnyocto19!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :define "cell"?
< 1577825666 81578 :bunnyocto19!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a cell like an IORef?
< 1577825701 949569 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :bunnyocto19: I want a function that allocates a new cell each time you call it, and returns a reference to it, and then you can pass around that reference like an ordinary value, and get the value or assign the value through that reference, and if you assign the value it doesn't affect other cells
< 1577825707 284881 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, like an IORef
< 1577825747 751812 :bunnyocto19!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't an IORef just a chan with one value in it?
< 1577825755 565920 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think so
< 1577825760 599967 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :with a chan, you can only retrieve the value once
< 1577825770 309802 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :with an IORef, you can retreive the same value as many times as you want, 
< 1577825793 967093 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or not retrieve it at all, but assign a new value and the next time you retrieve it you get the new value
< 1577825798 853462 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I might not understand what chan you mean
< 1577826198 476250 :bunnyocto19!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq mC6wCrC
< 1577826198 881696 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | Invalid usage
< 1577826198 882015 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric : |   --file <path>           Read code from file (incl. STDIN)
< 1577826198 882024 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric : |   --file-no-stdin <path>  Read code from file (excl. STDIN)
< 1577826202 215193 :bunnyocto19!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm
< 1577826218 722165 :bunnyocto19!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :screw u
< 1577826220 943381 :bunnyocto19!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq mC6wCrC
< 1577826222 132903 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | 6
< 1577826222 132929 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | __INTERNAL__:BlsqCell _CELL_
< 1577826227 242221 :bunnyocto19!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so
< 1577826233 337365 :bunnyocto19!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you want to use cells for?
< 1577826252 164216 :bunnyocto19!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure if they're even memory safe
< 1577826258 438964 :bunnyocto19!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :blsq chans are memory safe
< 1577826258 921187 :bunnyocto19!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hope
< 1577826304 657713 :bunnyocto19!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 1R@++
< 1577826305 185993 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | Ain't nobody got time fo' dat!
< 1577826323 179235 :bunnyocto19!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 1 2K K+
< 1577826323 806111 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | (3, 2)
< 1577826388 355612 :bunnyocto19!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you mean more like an auto cell I guess
> 1577826841 835272 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Naz14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68509&oldid=68489 5* 03Sporeball 5* (+16) 10/* Overview */
< 1577826967 970343 :bunnyocto19!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :blsq cells are iorefs
< 1577826974 52631 :bunnyocto19!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :blsq chans are just haskell chans
< 1577826976 979600 :bunnyocto19!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what it has to offer
< 1577827134 88757 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :bunnyocto19: if they're IORefs, that's fine
< 1577827155 683540 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I wrote the second part (27)
< 1577827244 702298 :bunnyocto19!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could for example do uhm
< 1577827325 122962 :bunnyocto19!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq mcJbx{5s_1wc}fkrc
< 1577827325 572112 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | Ain't nobody got time fo' dat!
< 1577827331 995131 :bunnyocto19!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq mcJbx{1s_1wc}fkrc
< 1577827332 538900 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | Ain't nobody got time fo' dat!
< 1577827377 448010 :bunnyocto19!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm okay so the timeout here is less than 1 second
< 1577827390 394721 :bunnyocto19!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but 5s_ was supposed to simulate a heavy computation
< 1577827417 505643 :bunnyocto19!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you can have a heavy computation and have it write the result to a chan while you do some other heavy computation in parallel
< 1577827421 428013 :bunnyocto19!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then at the end you readchan
< 1577827428 539976 :bunnyocto19!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically
< 1577827437 49466 :bunnyocto19!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what ever you can do in golang you can do in blsq I dare say
< 1577827452 70730 :bunnyocto19!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's got chans and it's got iorefs
< 1577827459 203382 :bunnyocto19!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and fk is fork
< 1577827459 933412 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok
< 1577827481 674848 :bunnyocto19!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it has pairs since today
< 1577827486 875880 :bunnyocto19!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure what I'll be needing them for but
< 1577827498 213843 :bunnyocto19!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 10 5K K+
< 1577827498 656221 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | (15, 5)
< 1577827501 687996 :bunnyocto19!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 10 5K K+Kf
< 1577827502 281753 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | (5, 15)
< 1577827504 529702 :bunnyocto19!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 10 5K K+KfKd
< 1577827504 958521 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | ((5, 15), (5, 15))
< 1577827536 542598 :bunnyocto19!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm missing a graph datatype though
< 1577827546 102878 :bunnyocto19!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but haven't figured out a clever burlesque-ish way of doing it
< 1577827627 32308 :bunnyocto19!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was thinking of adding a wraparound datatype
< 1577827638 813412 :bunnyocto19!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :such that you can construct integers that wrap around at arbitrary numbers
< 1577827648 412920 :bunnyocto19!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :forexample for degrees of angles
< 1577827651 712703 :bunnyocto19!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :0..360
< 1577827661 123757 :bunnyocto19!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :such that when you'd do 360+2 you'd get 2
< 1577827692 557202 :bunnyocto19!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean... fairly trivial to implement.
< 1577827855 212854 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no it's not, because you have to implement like a hundred builtins that do arithmetic on them
< 1577827867 323155 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and many of them have two or three arguments, each of which can be various types
< 1577827907 32931 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :plus you're committing to support it in future operations too
< 1577827949 665114 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nevertheless, this is burlesque, it has lots of features, so if you think it's useful, do implement it
< 1577828071 570947 :rodgort!~rodgort@static.38.6.217.95.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Quit: Leaving
< 1577828121 334894 :bunnyocto19!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 259 360tm 5?+
< 1577828122 605337 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | __INTERNAL__:BlsqModInt 264 360
< 1577828142 80624 :bunnyocto19!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm.
< 1577828233 330692 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 QUIT :Quit: Leaving
< 1577828315 991194 :bunnyocto19!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 259 360tm
< 1577828316 848509 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | 259
< 1577828320 650522 :bunnyocto19!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 259 360tm 5?+
< 1577828321 335719 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | 264
< 1577828328 878019 :bunnyocto19!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 359 360tm 5?+
< 1577828329 498227 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | 4
< 1577828332 740712 :bunnyocto19!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah.
< 1577828335 59074 :bunnyocto19!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there we go
< 1577828372 150509 :bunnyocto19!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah... probably only supports +-/ and *
< 1577828527 431316 :bunnyocto19!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 359 360tm 5?+100?*
< 1577828528 295093 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | 40
< 1577828689 926733 :bunnyocto19!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course not all built-ins will take this sort of integer
< 1577828755 684616 :bunnyocto19!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: you do know nobody is using this crap anyway right?
< 1577828757 335519 :bunnyocto19!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so :D
< 1577828779 225026 :bunnyocto19!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's no userbase
< 1577828854 738824 :bunnyocto19!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq mcto
< 1577828855 366143 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | "Error"
< 1577828868 843340 :bunnyocto19!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what
< 1577828876 117523 :bunnyocto19!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq mc
< 1577828876 754373 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | ERROR: Unknown command: (mc)!
< 1577828878 796594 :bunnyocto19!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah
< 1577828884 911143 :bunnyocto19!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq nm
< 1577828885 561951 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | 
< 1577828970 617352 :rodgort!~rodgort@static.38.6.217.95.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric
< 1577828991 88767 :bunnyocto19!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq 1 2tmto
< 1577828992 213875 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | "ModInt[2]"
< 1577829079 862081 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :prepare for the New Year for the +02:00 timezone (Finland, Romania, Greece, Israel) in less than 10 minutes
< 1577829105 283608 :bunnyocto19!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm reading this as blsq needs timezone types
< 1577829107 729802 :bunnyocto19!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you're right.
< 1577829131 525681 :bunnyocto19!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also strongly working on integrating gui
< 1577829381 72874 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :less than 4 minutes
< 1577829487 739097 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :less than 2 minutes until New Year in the +02:00 timezone (Finland, Romania, Greece, Israel)
< 1577829602 183281 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Happy New Year for the +02:00 timezone (Finland, Romania, Greece, Israel)
< 1577829713 663449 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't remember who is in what timezone though
< 1577830409 930191 :bunnyocto19!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :good knews.
< 1577830435 283563 :bunnyocto19!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wit OpenGL.blsq you can create pong in blsq
< 1577830812 93767 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric
< 1577831407 592421 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.41.57.dynamic.ufanet.ru QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds
< 1577832001 281690 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :prepare for New Year in the +01:00 timezone (Norway, Germany, France) in 20 minutes
< 1577832017 360101 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The rules in GURPS for flying are similar to those for walking/running, but with double speed, and there is a minimum speed as well as maximum. But I should think the rules could be improved? Do you know how to make it better?
< 1577832151 49455 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: how is holding or lifting or dragging heavy items 
< 1577832156 234880 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :handled for flying that is
< 1577832204 642602 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Same as for walking, although I think that isn't very good, and should be improved. I should think you cannot carry as much stuff while flying as walking is what I would expect, but that isn't how the rules is written.
> 1577832211 122795 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User talk:Hex9614]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68510&oldid=68506 5* 03JonoCode9374 5* (+676) 10/* Other Chat and questions */
< 1577832239 581353 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wanted inventing SciRPS to do it better. (I set up a NNTP to discuss making up SciRPS, and also a Fossil repository with wiki)
> 1577832342 377702 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User talk:Hex9614]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68511&oldid=68510 5* 03JonoCode9374 5* (+264) 10/* Other Chat and questions */
> 1577832399 667048 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User talk:Hex9614]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68512&oldid=68511 5* 03JonoCode9374 5* (+223) 10/* Other Chat and questions */
< 1577832548 892302 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@user-5-173-129-50.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric
< 1577832559 909682 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :New Year for +01:00 timezone offset is coming up in 11 minutes. prepare the champange bottle and glasses, and the television or radio to watch the countdown, anthem, and the president's speech.
< 1577832565 151497 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@user-5-173-129-50.play-internet.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just 10 minutes left to absolutely nothing 
< 1577832619 846475 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@user-5-173-129-50.play-internet.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas, not today, I'll drink champagne with mirror and go to sleep minutes in 
> 1577832625 10641 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Ekg14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68513&oldid=68498 5* 03JonoCode9374 5* (+1484) 10
> 1577832655 249431 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Ekg14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=68514&oldid=68513 5* 03JonoCode9374 5* (+13) 10/* Very WIP Reference List */
< 1577832694 93978 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kspalaiologos: you're in the +01:00 timezone offset too?
< 1577832703 329375 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@user-5-173-129-50.play-internet.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup
< 1577832709 706427 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@user-5-173-129-50.play-internet.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're from hungary
< 1577832716 390056 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@user-5-173-129-50.play-internet.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm two countries north
< 1577832820 470740 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in Poland?
< 1577832867 591151 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@user-5-173-129-50.play-internet.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup
< 1577833209 271406 :bunnyocto19!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :go fuck yourself old year
< 1577833230 687594 :bunnyocto19!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(00:00 here)
< 1577833267 173158 :bunnyocto19!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I know the new year won't be happy but at least I'm gonna tell the old year to fuck off)
< 1577833308 724752 :bunnyocto19!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably going to have to go through benzowithdrawal from the PTSD I got from being abused in a mental hospital
< 1577833442 847299 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@user-5-173-129-50.play-internet.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it true? 
< 1577833498 688554 :bunnyocto19!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sexually if that's what you thought.
< 1577833511 135078 :bunnyocto19!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherthan that: yep.
< 1577833527 34467 :bunnyocto19!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I don't mean "security guard touched me. Abuse!" kind of abuse
< 1577833533 813941 :bunnyocto19!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like some mental patients claim
< 1577833555 494011 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hippy Happy New Year
< 1577833564 165441 :bunnyocto19!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :happy new year you fins
< 1577833601 714238 :bunnyocto19!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(there are always inpatients who threaten to sue hospital stuff for searching them because it's sexual abuse and what not)
< 1577833616 604958 :bunnyocto19!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(some threaten to call the police and actually call the police but the police ain't showing up dude)
< 1577833618 675969 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@user-5-173-129-50.play-internet.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, thanks. Have a great 2k20.
< 1577833639 914014 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@user-5-173-129-50.play-internet.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyways, I'm going to sleep.
< 1577833643 953482 :bunnyocto19!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :good night.
< 1577833650 94061 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@user-5-173-129-50.play-internet.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good night! 
< 1577833652 331215 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@user-5-173-129-50.play-internet.pl QUIT :Quit: Quit
< 1577833713 157849 :bunnyocto19!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the thing is this: procedure X on patients with Y is ok for as long as they actually have Y.
< 1577833733 695434 :bunnyocto19!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :procedure X on patients that really don't have Y is abuse.
< 1577833758 884816 :bunnyocto19!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(kinda like amupating an arm isn't abuse if the arm needs to be amputated)
< 1577833767 70715 :bunnyocto19!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(but it sorta is abuse if there's no medical reason to do so)
< 1577833893 561179 :bunnyocto19!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(so suppose a doctor knows you don't have a certain disorder but derliberately schedules you for surgery for that disorder and you're being operated on... that's the sort of abuse I'm talking about)
< 1577833965 566953 :bunnyocto19!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sexual abuse, but pretty much physical abuse.
< 1577834019 809918 :bunnyocto19!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and sure, "no harm done physically", just a scar from the op and stuff that comes with surgery
< 1577834067 690097 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :president Áder wished Happy New Year after like the worst cheesy New Year speech I ever heard, and ended his speech. the New Year is officially open.
< 1577834081 618275 :bunnyocto19!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ader?
< 1577834085 73654 :bunnyocto19!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what country is this?
< 1577834086 481014 :bunnyocto19!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :denmark?
< 1577834088 865879 :bunnyocto19!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dutchmark?
< 1577834095 656488 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, it's Hungary
< 1577834097 754152 :bunnyocto19!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :steiermark?
< 1577834099 274276 :bunnyocto19!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh.
< 1577834103 610155 :bunnyocto19!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a mark in hungary?
< 1577834154 488117 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :in Denmark they call her a Queen, not a President
< 1577834199 871233 :bunnyocto19!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm honstely not really a fan of royaldom.
< 1577834211 754454 :bunnyocto19!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I get it - it's for tourism and tradition.
< 1577834224 139544 :bunnyocto19!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the principle behind it still is disgusting to me.
< 1577834231 865316 :bunnyocto19!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I'm way too much leaning leftwards so...
< 1577834261 256580 :bunnyocto19!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't glorify remnants of human rights abuses.
< 1577834319 141124 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :a mark? interesting question. well if you grep the list http://math.bme.hu/~ambrus/pu/telep.txt , you find a few town names starting with Mark or Márk, so yes.
< 1577834361 489877 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kázsmárk, Markaz, Márkháza, Márkó, Markóc, Markotabödöge
< 1577834401 982660 :bunnyocto19!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Jászfelsőszentgyörgy
< 1577834402 376935 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :bunnyocto19: i should say. :p they even give you the top of the stack and explains them in terms of the separate branches.))
< 1577834439 62745 :bunnyocto19!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: tell me more about those branches
< 1577834439 277989 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :bunnyocto19: that sounds pretty sexp to me
< 1577834464 531032 :LBPHacker!lbphacker@trigraph.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I look away for a moment and suddenly > Jászfelsőszentgyörgy
< 1577834489 740172 :LBPHacker!lbphacker@trigraph.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :happy new year indeed
< 1577834500 177885 :bunnyocto19!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why. are you living there?
< 1577834516 547670 :LBPHacker!lbphacker@trigraph.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah, but I'm a native so it stands out
< 1577834516 954377 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think most queens could make better New Year speeches than *ahem* our two most recent presidents
< 1577834532 134710 :bunnyocto19!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Trump can do it.
< 1577834579 227047 :bunnyocto19!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has been a great year. Really great year. Was the greatest year. Just so great. We had some big things going, terrific, such big things.
< 1577834579 277116 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Trump could do too but he has the drawback of being a President in the wide sense, that is, he's also effectively a prime minister
< 1577834592 752305 :bunnyocto19!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can we feed trump speeches into fungot?
< 1577834593 30056 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :bunnyocto19: did you receive it, go ahead.
< 1577834596 926207 :bunnyocto19!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that'd be fucking awesome.
< 1577834647 173620 :bunnyocto19!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^styles
< 1577834656 198687 :bunnyocto19!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style
< 1577834656 403357 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc* iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack oots pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp ukparl youtube
< 1577834664 306365 :bunnyocto19!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :needs trump
< 1577834667 844157 :bunnyocto19!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style youtube
< 1577834668 69003 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: youtube (Some YouTube comments)
< 1577834670 501645 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :bunnyocto19: I don't know, but there are already Trump speech generators on the web I believe
< 1577834674 957432 :bunnyocto19!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Jászfelsőszentgyörgy
< 1577834675 213844 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :bunnyocto19: dude its a shame. can't wait to buy any of this fucking crash....
< 1577834693 405642 :bunnyocto19!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: i see
< 1577834735 271358 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, the stupidest town name on that list is probably Rábaszentmiklós
< 1577834742 707365 :LBPHacker!lbphacker@trigraph.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lololol
< 1577834745 895222 :LBPHacker!lbphacker@trigraph.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ouch
< 1577834813 209040 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, the Wiener Philharmoniker new year concert is starting in about 11 hours. I'll have to switch before I watch that one live.
< 1577834823 636999 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/switch/sleep/ sorry qwertyal aphasia
< 1577834844 742283 :bunnyocto19!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is miklos a toilet?
< 1577834847 616606 :bunnyocto19!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Rábaszentmiklós
< 1577835156 976869 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric
< 1577835404 296048 :bunnyocto19!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: is there something fishy with url params for blsq.cgi?
< 1577835423 905600 :bunnyocto19!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It ain't working anymore.
< 1577835511 953480 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :New Year for +00:00 timezone offset (UK, UTC, Iceland) will be in 22 minutes
< 1577835634 106527 :bunnyocto19!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1%2B seems to be convertet to "1 " instead of "1+"
< 1577835795 744768 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Happy new year!
< 1577835915 942717 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloerjan
< 1577835977 241898 :bunnyocto19!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dis huge bug.
< 1577835993 458727 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :<Taneb> "Castille" sounds a bit odd if you pronounce it with a θ <-- i think \oren\'s analysis may be a tad off
< 1577836015 274758 :bunnyocto19!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq '+L[b6
< 1577836016 77815 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | ERROR: Burlesque: (B!) Invalid arguments!
< 1577836016 77860 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | 16
< 1577836016 77874 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | 'a
< 1577836021 207984 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think we'll watch the BBC fireworks show, I think that's the British thing to do, and it's important to integrate well when you're an immigrant I hear.
< 1577836030 160248 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks Castille
< 1577836031 457083 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, Castille. Thastille.
< 1577836061 115564 :bunnyocto19!b2c5e4a0@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!blsq '+**b6
< 1577836061 779897 :blsqbot!~blsqbot@178.197.228.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | "2b"
< 1577836126 936200 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: ooh! do you also watch the Queen's speech?
< 1577836171 906221 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, we did, though this time not live.
< 1577836185 535235 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I mean, it's never live, but not at the time it was being broadcast.
< 1577836186 921667 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? but it's not midnight yet
< 1577836204 595365 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Queen's speech is 3pm at Christmas Day.
< 1577836207 282719 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'll be midnight in 10 minutes
< 1577836209 249890 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh...
< 1577836218 253199 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but doesn't she do a New Year speech too?
< 1577836239 491763 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not as far as I know. But I'm not an expert here.
< 1577836248 689655 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see
< 1577836425 909704 :mkzzz!~root@206.ip-51-91-102.eu JOIN :#esoteric
< 1577836429 866733 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since I'll be busy at midnight -- happy new year of misspelling the date in forms.
< 1577836447 660996 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think 2020's going to be a particularly bad one for that.
< 1577836454 126158 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"201 oh right."
< 1577836476 854814 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah
< 1577836478 851273 :mkzzz!~root@206.ip-51-91-102.eu QUIT :Client Quit
< 1577836564 306200 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :New Year for +00:00 timezone offset in 4 minutes
< 1577836581 514856 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in norway, at least back when i watched tv, there were two new year's speeches, one by the king and one by the prime minister.
< 1577836593 262513 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see
< 1577836622 355865 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think one was on new year's eve and one on new year's day
< 1577836713 904040 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :both still going strong, apparently
< 1577836737 313581 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-13-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :one minute