< 1580689606 531083 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1580689733 204723 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 JOIN :#esoteric < 1580689768 475514 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1580689903 340471 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 NICK :Lord_of_Life < 1580690179 597623 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: i knew about C = cold/chaud/caldo, but i didn't know hungarian completed the confusion... < 1580690522 849262 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1580692173 230288 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@77.79.177.174.dynamic.ufanet.ru QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1580694291 848734 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode JOIN :#esoteric > 1580694850 157533 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Special:Log/upload14]]4 upload10 02 5* 03Lebster 5* 10uploaded "[[02File:Qwerty.png10]]": UK QWERTY Standard keyboard layout graphic > 1580694903 45141 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:LSCEF14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=69575&oldid=69399 5* 03Lebster 5* (+236) 10/* ? */ > 1580694952 818238 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07LSCEF14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=69576&oldid=69358 5* 03Lebster 5* (+6) 10replaced '' with TAB > 1580695031 807132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User talk:Lebster14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=69577&oldid=69554 5* 03Lebster 5* (+144) 10/* LSCEF */ > 1580695040 423016 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User talk:Lebster14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=69578&oldid=69577 5* 03Lebster 5* (+1) 10/* LSCEF */ > 1580695152 760453 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Rogex14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=69579&oldid=69386 5* 03Lebster 5* (+0) 10consistent case < 1580696245 109786 :atslash!~atslash@static.231.107.9.5.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1580696627 47171 :atslash!~atslash@static.231.107.9.5.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1580698083 500723 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. < 1580698094 243376 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mh? < 1580698171 503306 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :2020-02-02-20:20:02:02 is coming up. < 1580698462 917377 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::O < 1580698471 583951 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks for reminding me < 1580698478 890644 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :np. < 1580698497 585412 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm in PST < 1580698501 688654 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :same. < 1580698736 232730 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am also PST < 1580698866 866509 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :up here in washington. < 1580699096 501384 :Hooloovo0!Hooloovoo@sorunome.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :shoot, I missed it < 1580699102 983596 :Hooloovo0!Hooloovoo@sorunome.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(CST) < 1580699366 971237 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Due to my testing, TeXnicard image mask format seems to work better for its purpose than the other formats I have tried. Maybe it is useful outside of TeXnicard; I don't know. (It is called TeXnicard image mask format because the format was invented for TeXnicard, although it may be useful with other applications too.) < 1580699405 284785 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://zzo38computer.org/fossil/texnicard.ui/artifact/24fb5fb375602b54 < 1580699611 634144 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know of a similar format? < 1580703664 360075 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :happy uber-palindrome day, west coast. < 1580703683 82867 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is the timeline of programming languages in Wikipedia, but many of them they do not explain it much. < 1580707281 924792 :MDude!~MDude@97-127-171-136.cdrr.qwest.net QUIT :Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com) < 1580708384 42398 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1580712722 858430 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds > 1580712820 717381 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Esolang:Sandbox14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=69580&oldid=68725 5* 03Dtuser1337 5* (+21418) 10 < 1580713147 859279 :atslash!~atslash@static.231.107.9.5.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1580716530 823033 :Hooloovo0!Hooloovoo@sorunome.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :~hand < 1580716580 639005 :Hooloovo0!Hooloovoo@sorunome.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hand < 1580716582 489624 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :hand? No such file or directory < 1580716592 197372 :Hooloovo0!Hooloovoo@sorunome.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`?hand < 1580716592 894437 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​?hand? No such file or directory < 1580716724 581394 :Hooloovo0!Hooloovoo@sorunome.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hand < 1580716726 49461 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :A hand in the bush is better than a stoned bird. < 1580719910 82443 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-85.catv.broadband.hu QUIT :Quit: leaving > 1580720826 762875 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User talk:A14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=69581&oldid=69170 5* 03Dtuser1337 5* (+162) 10;) < 1580721228 700555 :atslash!~atslash@46.188.0.82 JOIN :#esoteric < 1580721540 677120 :atslash!~atslash@46.188.0.82 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1580721580 798145 :atslash!~atslash@static.231.107.9.5.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1580724593 63841 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 JOIN :#esoteric > 1580725452 319545 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Esolang talk:Sandbox14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=69582&oldid=65845 5* 03Dtuser1337 5* (+1487) 10 < 1580725507 717026 :atslash!~atslash@static.231.107.9.5.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1580725651 282065 :atslash!~atslash@static.231.107.9.5.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1580730327 206827 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so there's an O strip promised for later today. presumably in some American timezone. we'll keep watching. in the meantime, there's a news entry about the forum. < 1580736022 435940 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.9.184.dynamic.ufanet.ru JOIN :#esoteric < 1580737435 722212 :sprock1em!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1580738214 857834 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 JOIN :#esoteric < 1580742008 705487 :rain1!~debian@unaffiliated/rain1 JOIN :#esoteric < 1580742676 29037 :rain1!~debian@unaffiliated/rain1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1580742798 709530 :wib_jonas!25bf3cd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.191.60.209 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1580745649 452253 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1580745905 899224 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.9.184.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :¡ı̣ɥ < 1580746171 788308 :rain1!~debian@unaffiliated/rain1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey < 1580746176 596034 :rain1!~debian@unaffiliated/rain1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you recommend any books? < 1580748783 439586 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1580748949 886882 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:aaaa:0:aaaa:0 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rain1: I read The Long Dark Teatime of the Soul recently < 1580748956 157689 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:aaaa:0:aaaa:0 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was enjoyable < 1580749328 669572 :rain1!~debian@unaffiliated/rain1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks! < 1580750171 818898 :Taneb!~Taneb@2001:41c8:51:10d:aaaa:0:aaaa:0 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(second in the Dirk Gently series by Douglas Adams) < 1580752710 386304 :Hooloovo0!Hooloovoo@sorunome.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :moby dick is... an interesting book < 1580752789 361050 :Hooloovo0!Hooloovoo@sorunome.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like he set out to write an encyclopedia but starts off with two men getting married < 1580752918 314125 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1580753457 363960 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :rain1: what kind of book do you like < 1580754327 893232 :rain1!~debian@unaffiliated/rain1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like sci fi and science. im reading judea pearl's book 'the book of why' right now < 1580754333 622170 :rain1!~debian@unaffiliated/rain1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about yoU? < 1580754342 889729 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :various types of books < 1580754420 51430 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :people in this channel might enjoy the novel Recursion by Blake Crouch < 1580754505 769410 :rain1!~debian@unaffiliated/rain1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :woah i just read that < 1580754511 82431 :rain1!~debian@unaffiliated/rain1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the first book i read this year < 1580754523 449527 :rain1!~debian@unaffiliated/rain1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i really liked it, did you like it? < 1580754648 922289 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1580754665 223880 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought it was great < 1580754705 365694 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you read anything by Nick Harkaway? < 1580755118 724858 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can recommend a book < 1580755124 726978 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ANSI C Programming by Dennis Ritchie < 1580755503 823433 :xelxebar_!~xelxebar@gateway/tor-sasl/xelxebar JOIN :#esoteric < 1580755523 716367 :xelxebar!~xelxebar@gateway/tor-sasl/xelxebar QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1580755806 867468 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-41.catv.broadband.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1580756813 50841 :rain1!~debian@unaffiliated/rain1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tNick Harkaway? no. I was thinking of reading some rudy rucker < 1580756988 478590 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-41.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`olist 1190 < 1580756989 773349 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :olist 1190: shachaf oerjan Sgeo FireFly boily nortti b_jonas < 1580757211 892606 :rain1!~debian@unaffiliated/rain1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :might try Gnomon < 1580758091 321280 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-41.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa < 1580758137 679589 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-41.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Giant, author of the O strip, has caved in. he previously claimed that he doesn't want to accept donations, because he's already behind with the Kickstarter run (due to both overpromising and his hand injury), < 1580758173 231962 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-41.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and doesn't want to accept money if he can't give any thing concrete in exchange, but can't promise new things either until he finishes the Kickstarter. So he said that if you want to support him, buy his books or the various merchandise. < 1580758208 841898 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-41.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :But now, he set up a Patreon for donations, with the pretty good excuse that it helps cover costs of the server for the forum, and < 1580758261 790486 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-41.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :simultaneously claims that there won't be extra content locked behind the Patreon and that he'll release higher resolution versions of new OotS strips to supporters. < 1580758288 850662 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-41.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps those are both true if he releases those high resolution versions to the general public a week later. > 1580759578 852960 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User talk:A14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=69583&oldid=69581 5* 03Dtuser1337 5* (+22933) 10made it even better XD > 1580760012 751192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Dtuser1337/Sandbox14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=69584&oldid=67264 5* 03Dtuser1337 5* (+11) 10/* Beginning of the Sandbox line */ < 1580760021 70947 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or maybe he mean they are the same OotS strips for everyone but supporters have a higher resolution. > 1580760028 9368 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Dtuser1337/Sandbox14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=69585&oldid=69584 5* 03Dtuser1337 5* (-11) 10Undo revision 69584 by [[Special:Contributions/Dtuser1337|Dtuser1337]] ([[User talk:Dtuser1337|talk]]) < 1580760163 514004 :wmww!wmwwmatrix@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-rzmhbumqynljwcem QUIT :*.net *.split < 1580760170 297749 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-41.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: it's definitely the same OotS strips for everyone < 1580760202 875524 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-41.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what I don't know is just whether we'll be able to see the high res ones without supporting the Patreon account or buying the book, and when we'll be able to see them < 1580760943 679157 :kspalaiologos!~kspalaiol@176.221.122.71 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1580761426 660963 :wmww!wmwwmatrix@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-rzmhbumqynljwcem JOIN :#esoteric < 1580761436 770381 :xelxebar_!~xelxebar@gateway/tor-sasl/xelxebar QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1580761463 716664 :xelxebar!~xelxebar@gateway/tor-sasl/xelxebar JOIN :#esoteric < 1580762078 542997 :LKoen!~LKoen@lstlambert-657-1-123-43.w92-154.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1580763013 633868 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am reading the documentation for Information Processing Language, which apparently influenced Lisp. < 1580763146 410858 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :C is mostly good (and many of the programming languages trying to replace C tend to do it worse, in my opinion, although LLVM has some good features, but it isn't perfect either), but some things are bad, such as the syntax for octal numbers, and the syntax for types. And some things are difficult such as self-modifying code, associating data with a function (LLVM can do this), the preprocessor isn't good enough, etc < 1580763780 728074 :sftp!~sftp@unaffiliated/sftp QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1580763836 850453 :wmww!wmwwmatrix@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-rzmhbumqynljwcem QUIT :*.net *.split < 1580764143 170951 :sftp!~sftp@unaffiliated/sftp JOIN :#esoteric < 1580764619 163378 :sftp!~sftp@unaffiliated/sftp QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1580764904 910029 :wmww!wmwwmatrix@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-rzmhbumqynljwcem JOIN :#esoteric < 1580764991 334029 :LKoen!~LKoen@lstlambert-657-1-123-43.w92-154.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :the syntax for types, eh < 1580765012 483147 :LKoen!~LKoen@lstlambert-657-1-123-43.w92-154.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :A *B; < 1580765029 336728 :LKoen!~LKoen@lstlambert-657-1-123-43.w92-154.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :am I declaring a variable B of type A, or multiplying two variables A and B? < 1580765041 247212 :LKoen!~LKoen@lstlambert-657-1-123-43.w92-154.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :it gets worse in c++ :) < 1580765045 950979 :kmc!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you just need to read it in a spiral! < 1580765236 588177 :sftp!~sftp@unaffiliated/sftp JOIN :#esoteric < 1580765402 768399 :xelxebar!~xelxebar@gateway/tor-sasl/xelxebar QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1580765427 725278 :xelxebar!~xelxebar@gateway/tor-sasl/xelxebar JOIN :#esoteric > 1580765727 769847 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07CopyPasta Language14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=69586&oldid=69553 5* 03Rerednaw 5* (-497) 10/* Examples */ < 1580766001 470621 :rain1!~debian@unaffiliated/rain1 QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1580766163 265052 :MDude!~MDude@97-127-171-136.cdrr.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1580768517 677282 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I found a document where they compress pictures with a solid colour to compare the compression of different formats. PBM (either ASCII or binary, although they only consider the ASCII format) is O(n), and JPEG and lossy WebP also seems to be O(n) (but with a better constant factor). GIF works better than those formats, but has two "bumps"; the author of the document doesn't know why, but my guess is LZW resetting. < 1580768854 654272 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :GIF and the others are still monotonic though. (Also, I think GIF does not actually require LZW resetting, and can continue using the maximum code, although the encoder presumably resets it anyways.) PNG, BPG, and lossless WebP all compress better than that, but are non-monotonic (for PNG, this is probably due to the filter bytes; for BPG, I don't know why). FLIF is best; it is O(1) and always fifteen bytes long. < 1580769123 215306 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.50.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :TeXnicard image mask format is O(log n) in the case of a solid colour, although still it is usually smaller than FLIF except for very huge pictures. Farbfeld compressed with bzip2 (which they have not considered, but I have) seems to work better in this case than WebP, but worse than FLIF. > 1580771711 302460 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Golden sunrise14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=69587 5* 03Hakerh400 5* (+7484) 10+[[Golden sunrise]] > 1580771730 196209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Hakerh40014]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=69588&oldid=69529 5* 03Hakerh400 5* (+21) 10+[[Golden sunrise]] > 1580771767 630430 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=69589&oldid=69528 5* 03Hakerh400 5* (+21) 10+[[Golden sunrise]] > 1580771883 481598 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Convergaptor14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=69590&oldid=68542 5* 03Hakerh400 5* (-28) 10 > 1580771899 185003 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Golden sunrise14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=69591&oldid=69587 5* 03Hakerh400 5* (-28) 10 < 1580772164 543926 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.9.184.dynamic.ufanet.ru QUIT :Quit: gone completely :o