00:09:15 <spruit11> egelbot: List:map [(S::text F)->(S,F 7)] ([F->{F 0,F 1,F 2}][X->if 0<X then "add" [Y->X+Y] else "zero" [Y->10*Y]])
00:09:15 <egelbot> (System:cons (System:tuple "zero" 70) (System:cons (System:tuple "add" 8) (System:cons (System:tuple "add" 9) System:nil)))
00:15:57 <b_jonas> spruit11: anyway, those snippets I wrote, the prime lister and the mandelbrot, would probably have been much cleaner if I defined some functions with good names, like a rangeTo function, and used List:map
00:17:18 <b_jonas> or List:foldr as appropriate
00:18:07 <b_jonas> or whatever else, just proper abstractions
00:19:41 <spruit11> Nah, good enough.
00:19:53 <spruit11> Or awesome!
00:19:59 <spruit11> I liked them a lot
00:20:36 <b_jonas> Well, I have to relax. I sometimes need to write readable and maintainable code for work.
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00:21:56 <spruit11> Go do that!
00:22:27 <b_jonas> helloerjan
00:23:34 <oerjan> hellonas
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00:25:38 <oerjan> b_jonas: my theory has a corollary: the cause of belkar's very permanent death may be him trying to save the cat from the snarl
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00:26:31 <b_jonas> oerjan: I don't think he'll live long enough to meet the snarl, but it's possible
00:27:11 <oerjan> we'll see.
00:27:53 <oerjan> of course it could still be years in real time until either event happens.
00:28:07 <b_jonas> sure
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00:32:29 <oerjan> visiting explainxkcd was useful today, i learned about https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spacecraft_cemetery
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00:33:44 <b_jonas> oerjan: yeah, but it doesn't always tell all the important things about strips, and I'm too lazy to edit it
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00:34:49 <b_jonas> oerjan: like, did you know that there's actually a James Bond movie in which the villain tries to kill James Bond with a giant centrifugue? so that strip mixes up two different James Bond movies (the other being Goldfinger, which is what the punchline refers to)
00:39:33 <oerjan> i think i learned that when i googled "i expect you to die"
00:40:01 <oerjan> well the goldfinger part
00:40:07 <oerjan> ...i guess i didn't, then.
00:44:54 <b_jonas> I knew about the goldfinger one
00:45:07 <b_jonas> and I think explainxkcd tells about Goldfinger too
00:45:15 <b_jonas> it doesn't tell about the other movie
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01:09:15 <arseniiv> didn’t even know that related to actual Bond movies
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01:30:51 <zzo38> I tried compressing some pictures with and without YCoCg, LZ77, Paeth, etc. It seems that YCoCg helps even if LZ77 is disabled.
01:37:59 <zzo38> If the picture is CMYK, then what loss transformation could be used?
01:45:31 <zzo38> s/loss/lossless/
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06:08:21 <zzo38> int encode_prediction(int p,int v) { if(p==v) return 0; if(p&128) v^=255,p^=255; if(v<p) return 2*(p-v)-1; if(v<p+p) return 2*(v-p); return v; }
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13:20:56 <rain1> hi
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19:14:15 <zzo38> Have you worked with experimental picture compression?
19:16:01 <b_jonas> zzo38: no. I considered it, and it would have been in profile for my previous job, but no.
19:18:37 <b_jonas> I think they were more interested in experimental video compression though
19:18:50 <b_jonas> for images, there are good enough compressions already
19:20:31 <zzo38> Yes, although improvements can be made, and sometimes different compressions can be good for a different purpose, etc. And, I am not interested in it for the money.
19:21:10 <b_jonas> different compressions good for different purpose => sure! and you can pass parameters to the encoders too. but I wouldn't call that experimental.
19:22:47 <zzo38> Yes, although there can be ways to modify the format and to do stuff which is not already a part of the format; such as, PNG doesn't have the LOCO-I predictor, doesn't have the function I mentioned above to encode predicted values, encodes the prediction types as part of the same data stream as the picture, doesn't support YCoCg, and doesn't have a rotation flag.
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21:40:48 <zzo38> There is a simple way to calculate the length of huffed data without actually encoding the data: While more than one node remains, combine the two smallest nodes into a single node with their sum, and add that sum to a running total.
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