< 1583625849 116248 :rodgort!~rodgort@static.38.6.217.95.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric > 1583628683 489070 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Special:Log/upload14]]4 upload10 02 5* 03Neauoire 5* 10uploaded "[[02File:ESjAmDWU8AAVJsH.jpg10]]" > 1583628720 411765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Orca14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=70211&oldid=70097 5* 03Neauoire 5* (+192) 10Added image > 1583628851 955313 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Orca14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=70212&oldid=70211 5* 03Neauoire 5* (+15) 10Added caption to IDE image > 1583629026 450255 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Orca14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=70213&oldid=70212 5* 03Neauoire 5* (+175) 10 > 1583629278 95393 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Orca14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=70214&oldid=70213 5* 03Neauoire 5* (+40) 10/* External resources */ > 1583629507 34271 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Orca14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=70215&oldid=70214 5* 03Neauoire 5* (+273) 10Added midi example < 1583636405 758028 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1583636902 755868 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1583637502 868053 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-50-7.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I implemented the "setsheet" command in TeXnicard, which needs an array of up to sixteen sheet names. (Sheet names are separate from page names.) Hopefully sixteen sheets per card should be sufficient! < 1583643875 748403 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18b982ad.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1583644348 108509 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b982ad.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1583647740 831978 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b982ad.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1583647865 880950 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b982ad.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1583648539 854373 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.205.177 JOIN :#esoteric < 1583648986 655230 :phablet!~phablet@188.73.192.228 JOIN :#esoteric < 1583649304 87139 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1583649438 80835 :phablet!~phablet@188.73.192.228 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1583650569 222269 :phablet!~phablet@188.73.192.228 JOIN :#esoteric > 1583652066 794639 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07KEMURI14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=70216&oldid=69952 5* 03YamTokTpaFa 5* (+801) 10 < 1583653005 48791 :phablet!~phablet@188.73.192.228 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1583653750 208119 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 JOIN :#esoteric < 1583653854 694922 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1583653854 988444 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 NICK :Lord_of_Life < 1583656865 438538 :arseniiv_!~arseniiv@94.41.34.223.dynamic.ufanet.ru JOIN :#esoteric < 1583656922 860470 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.205.177 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1583660012 436249 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-8.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, where do I buy baby weight scales conforming to the 2019 redefinition of the kilogram? < 1583660012 534342 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: advice for me? :d hehe. yea. right) < 1583660272 421018 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-8.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, how do you pronounce "complacent"? < 1583660272 531375 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: yep also didn't like hw much, well doing electronics to be exact. < 1583660291 173799 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-8.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :neither hace I < 1583662464 219150 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm there's "complaisant" as well, didn't know that. < 1583662687 344406 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-8.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: that sounds like someone tried to spell "complacent" in french < 1583662767 6106 :MTGBusyBeaver!4c69b9e2@c-76-105-185-226.hsd1.or.comcast.net QUIT :*.net *.split < 1583666529 458827 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-8.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, what does the english verb "discress" mean? < 1583666529 594575 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: luxy like, *now*, for example < 1583666624 596795 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: No, they just borrowed the word from french, and it ended up with two homophones that have slightly different meanings. < 1583669043 696066 :xelxebar!~xelxebar@gateway/tor-sasl/xelxebar QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds > 1583672392 628989 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Deadfish14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=70217&oldid=67705 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (-17) 10/* C */ Changed x from an unsigned int just to an int, because the 'if x == -1' would never execute for an unsigned int. > 1583672908 970929 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07XENBLN14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=70218&oldid=70172 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+34) 10/* Commands */ < 1583672980 41748 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric > 1583674680 178719 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07XENBLN14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=70219&oldid=70218 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+172) 10Interpreters for esos > 1583675453 968102 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07DINAC14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=70220&oldid=70192 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+101) 10/* Interpret Deadfish 1 char at a time */ < 1583676004 252302 :rain1!~debian@unaffiliated/rain1 JOIN :#esoteric < 1583678276 212983 :rain1!~debian@unaffiliated/rain1 QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1583683506 676202 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-8.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: ok, so what's your quote for the immortality serum with the lifetime warranty, adult size? > 1583683857 91110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07DINAC/STDLIB14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=70221&oldid=70188 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+6) 10 > 1583684158 971683 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07DINAC14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=70222&oldid=70220 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+1248) 10/* Interpret Deadfish 1 char at a time */ < 1583685963 973697 :MTGBusyBeaver!4c69b9e2@c-76-105-185-226.hsd1.or.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1583686063 572827 :arseniiv_!~arseniiv@94.41.34.223.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: I join b_jonas here < 1583686063 732439 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :arseniiv_: if you think she is lacking in my idea, really; it's just an example of how to implement v and started writing them down < 1583686070 400324 :arseniiv_!~arseniiv@94.41.34.223.dynamic.ufanet.ru NICK :arseniiv < 1583686095 45577 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.34.223.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm fungot knows about the v language < 1583686095 101084 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :arseniiv: reading nested stuff is a pain < 1583686116 216447 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.34.223.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :I agree to an extent < 1583686436 185218 :ais523-!2e44083e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.46.68.8.62 JOIN :#esoteric < 1583686467 464207 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-8.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: what's your quote for the immortality serum with the lifetime warranty, adult size? < 1583686467 564848 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: does it generate? i'm not talking about programmers that are beginners in scheme. < 1583686477 820410 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-8.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1583686481 755965 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode JOIN :#esoteric < 1583686490 930312 :ais523-!2e44083e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.46.68.8.62 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the hyphen is half an underscore < 1583686556 38524 :MTGBusyBeaver!4c69b9e2@c-76-105-185-226.hsd1.or.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so underten? < 1583686570 947337 :ais523-!2e44083e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.46.68.8.62 PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems about right :-D < 1583686624 807938 :ais523-!2e44083e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.46.68.8.62 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I add extra underscores to my name to indicate how insane the method via which I'm connecting to IRC is) < 1583686644 365857 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-8.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was thinking more of ↽ which is half of ← < 1583686682 388473 :ais523-!2e44083e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.46.68.8.62 PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the subject of the "growing" alternative waterfall model, it doesn't act much like The Waterfall Model at all, I suspect it may be TC via some other mechanism but it's going to be hard to prove < 1583686696 488880 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-8.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I use nc_jonas as my nick when I connect using (rlwrap netcat chat.freenode.net 6667 | cat -v) except that I don't because I most often do that to renew the last seen time of alternate nicks that I own < 1583686701 498403 :ais523-!2e44083e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.46.68.8.62 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the way to think about it is that the zeroing triggers are delayed for a while, then all run at once < 1583686733 399802 :ais523-!2e44083e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.46.68.8.62 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: that's ais523|telnet (or ais523|nc) when I do it, and merits less than half an underscore < 1583686761 681824 :ais523-!2e44083e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.46.68.8.62 PRIVMSG #esoteric :really, the issue with the underscore scale is that ais523_ is actually fairly restricted, there should have been more scales with fewer underscores than that < 1583686821 563981 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-8.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't recall what exact program I used to connect from the rescue system of debian install images < 1583686838 671240 :ais523-!2e44083e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.46.68.8.62 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: that is very very close to my current half-underscore setup, as it happens < 1583686847 103816 :MTGBusyBeaver!4c69b9e2@c-76-105-185-226.hsd1.or.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you think it is actually TC? Interesting. I'm having a hard time seeing how it could behave nicely. < 1583686878 946191 :ais523-!2e44083e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.46.68.8.62 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as a general rule, if you can't easily prove something sub-TC, and don't notice a restriction that seems insurmountable, it usually is TC < 1583686930 693009 :MTGBusyBeaver!4c69b9e2@c-76-105-185-226.hsd1.or.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it is, that opens up a lot more waterclocks (249-c where c is some small constant like 3) < 1583686951 328405 :MTGBusyBeaver!4c69b9e2@c-76-105-185-226.hsd1.or.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and makes the setup a lot easier < 1583687064 871874 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-8.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think the difference between 120 and 240 clocks matters, if your limit on the matrix values isn't small < 1583687066 676544 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-50-7.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I add the underscores when the server is unaware that the connection with the name "zzo38" is lost. < 1583687077 227642 :MTGBusyBeaver!4c69b9e2@c-76-105-185-226.hsd1.or.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also there was a question about how these implementations handle the case when two waterclocks zero at the same time. Both of their rules get run before the next decrements. < 1583687252 657682 :ais523-!2e44083e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.46.68.8.62 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's OK, any deterministic resolution will be OK for this < 1583687263 785552 :ais523-!2e44083e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.46.68.8.62 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because you can write programs to never need to do that < 1583687283 264581 :ais523-!2e44083e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.46.68.8.62 PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously it has to be deterministic so that you can't create a loop where a player controls the number of iterations < 1583687327 985759 :MTGBusyBeaver!4c69b9e2@c-76-105-185-226.hsd1.or.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, exactly. Thats why we are using Coat of Arms as the way to boost toughness < 1583687341 657648 :MTGBusyBeaver!4c69b9e2@c-76-105-185-226.hsd1.or.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`card-by-name Coat of Arms < 1583687343 654679 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :Coat of Arms \ 5 \ Artifact \ Each creature gets +1/+1 for each other creature on the battlefield that shares at least one creature type with it. (For example, if two Goblin Warriors and a Goblin Shaman are on the battlefield, each gets +2/+2.) \ EX-R, 7E-R, 8ED-R, 9ED-R, 10E-R, M10-R, DDS-R, H09-R < 1583687559 262728 :kspalaiologos!~root@206.ip-51-91-102.eu JOIN :#esoteric < 1583688819 372104 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1583688845 996651 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 JOIN :#esoteric < 1583688992 815034 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-8.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, google says "Your search - immortality serum lifetime warranty - did not match any shopping results." < 1583689022 669182 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-8.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it also says "Suggestions: Make sure that all words are spelled correctly." which is a bit ridiculous because google knows perfectly well how to fix misspelled words < 1583690766 569476 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-50-7.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone told me that Google Groups has stopped carrying Usenet groups, but this morning I downloaded six articles and four were from Google Groups. Do you know anything about this? Maybe it is just new ones they have stopped adding? I don't know? < 1583695034 666402 :kspalaiologos!~root@206.ip-51-91-102.eu QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1583695639 445691 :atslash!~atslash@static.231.107.9.5.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1583696993 694816 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 JOIN :#esoteric < 1583697143 82614 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1583697143 559473 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 QUIT :Excess Flood < 1583697262 331553 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 JOIN :#esoteric < 1583697386 783665 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 QUIT :Excess Flood < 1583697451 202694 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 JOIN :#esoteric < 1583700498 365117 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.34.223.dynamic.ufanet.ru QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1583703958 133812 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds > 1583704169 948951 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[072C14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=70223&oldid=66753 5* 03Ais523 non-admin 5* (+0) 10/* Limited alphabet */ fix proof > 1583704224 225840 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[072C14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=70224&oldid=70223 5* 03Ais523 non-admin 5* (+0) 10/* Limited alphabet */ fix the other location too > 1583704283 182722 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[072C14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=70225&oldid=70224 5* 03Ais523 non-admin 5* (+3) 10/* Limited alphabet */ typo < 1583708711 480053 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-50-7.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made up a "separations output format", which is meant for use when a program outputs raster data for printing with an arbitrary set of separations, and to be not too complicated to read and write, but allows metadata to be specified if needed. < 1583708809 988133 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-50-7.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like this? < 1583708918 726802 :ais523-!2e44083e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.46.68.8.62 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think I've ever written a program that needs to do that < 1583708930 71342 :ais523-!2e44083e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.46.68.8.62 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but its probably good to have a defined format if you're writing a program that does < 1583709178 983792 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-50-7.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1583709323 641278 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-8.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: doesn't ImageMagick 7's format already allow an arbitrary number of color channels? < 1583709341 690668 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-8.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :although sometimes you want 8-bit rgb channels and 16-bit depth < 1583709420 53310 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-14-8.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just use multiple images for that sort of thing though < 1583709538 18215 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-50-7.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe it does, although I think that has a somewhat different use that what I did. < 1583709629 448814 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-50-7.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here is the current version of the document: http://sprunge.us/3VkU32 I can change it if you have suggestions to change it, though (maybe). < 1583709796 926863 :ais523-!2e44083e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.46.68.8.62 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1583709816 353427 :ais523-!2e44083e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.46.68.8.62 JOIN :#esoteric < 1583710138 513782 :ais523-!2e44083e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.46.68.8.62 QUIT :Quit: quit < 1583710425 383997 :Hooloovo0!Hooloovoo@sorunome.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I don't understand what "raster" and "separations" mean < 1583710466 785198 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :raster ~ a grid of pixels < 1583710485 268684 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I imagine separations are for color channels? I haven't looked. < 1583710525 49375 :Hooloovo0!Hooloovoo@sorunome.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, I know what both of those words mean, but not in context < 1583710719 376301 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-50-7.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, mainly, although separations are generally used for printing, and not for display on screen. < 1583711670 803812 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-50-7.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Printing separations is normally CMYK, although sometimes additional separations are used. (e.g. Magic: the Gathering cards are printed with two additional separations; one for the "underprinting layer" on shiny cards, and one for the text (which is still black, but I read somewhere that it is a separate black layer than the black layer for the art))