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00:16:15 <imode> gforth's socket library is surprisingly straightforward.
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03:53:59 <imode> yeah, it's literally just "create a socket, pass around a buffer, receive into that buffer, do stuff with the buffer."
04:24:35 <pikhq> That's rather straightforward.
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06:38:42 <dnm> shachaf: hey there! LTNS.
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07:23:55 <dnm> shachaf: How goes it?
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07:34:48 <dnm> shachaf: Ah. Understandable. How are you doing with the whole COVID-19 lockdown?
07:36:41 <shachaf> Hmm, I'm not sure I should talk about it in here.
07:38:15 <shachaf> I have been staying at home for about a month and a half.
07:39:04 <shachaf> I guess a bit longer than that.
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11:58:43 <fungot> kspalaiologos: take define-syntax, make your bfasm be a backend. i'm sure they've got plans for it. :p
11:59:13 <fungot> kspalaiologos: it's the internet. the man sounds like a good, clean scheme parser written in c.
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12:26:42 <rain1> any thoughts on the substrings of the thue morse sequence?
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15:30:34 <b_jonas> kspalaiologos: http://freenode.net/kb/answer/namespaces
15:32:22 <b_jonas> that naming policy is enforced only when the ops need to interfere in who owns a channel, typically in taking over unused old channel names
15:33:52 <b_jonas> so the policy is mostly just a suggestion, and many channels go against it
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17:10:34 <zzo38> I saw someone's solution to sorites paradox is that it remains a heap as long as some of the sand is on top of the other sand
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17:57:09 <orbitaldecay> Does anyone know the name for what I'm doing with combinators here? https://wiki.forder.cc/wiki/Combinators
17:58:47 <orbitaldecay> I'm basically poking around for binary operators on subsets of combinators that form quasigroups, semigroups, maybe even a group?
18:00:45 <orbitaldecay> question #4 at the bottom is basically the whole point
18:04:26 <int-e> my takeaway from this page is that I hate postfix notation for combinatory logic
18:06:37 <imode> postfix notation is deceptively simple.
18:08:00 <int-e> 1. is a cute puzzle... if you let T = (\x. x x) (\P x y. (\x. x x) P y x) then T x y ->> T y x. (Now do the abstraction elminiation and be happy.)
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18:10:11 <orbitaldecay> I'm just dipping my toe in the water with combinators. Still have a lot to learn.
18:12:28 <orbitaldecay> I think 3. is a very interesting question too. I have an intuitive feel for it, but haven't formalized it yet.
18:13:32 <int-e> 2. is standard pairing: (\x y p. p x y)
18:13:40 <int-e> I don't understand 3.
18:15:03 <int-e> 4. probably has some silly (artificial) solution that embeds both ` and a representation of the starting term
18:17:33 <orbitaldecay> 3 is stating when is <*> closed under application
18:17:43 <int-e> but what does that mean?
18:18:33 <orbitaldecay> if x, y are in <*> when is (xy) in <*> where the operation there is application, not *
18:18:55 <int-e> also what about silly things like \x y. x y
18:19:23 <int-e> (that is, a deliberately binary version of I)
18:20:23 <orbitaldecay> Let's call that I*, <I*``> is actually pretty weird. For x, y in <I*``>, x*y is always recursive
18:20:38 <orbitaldecay> so it just blows up my interpretter whenever I try to compute it
18:20:44 <int-e> I guess that's just ` really
18:21:39 <int-e> So okay, 3 may be a difficult question... but why is it interesting?
18:22:12 <orbitaldecay> Well, I'm interested in doing subturing computation in a context closer to a group
18:22:38 <orbitaldecay> 3 isn't terribly important, but it'd be nice to have
18:22:58 <orbitaldecay> that way I could generate the set <*>, then the group operation would just be regular function application
18:23:20 <orbitaldecay> since associativity is probably a no go with any useful computation
18:24:30 <int-e> associativity moves you close to string rewriting (semi-Thue systems).
18:24:51 <int-e> Which are Turing-complete but also awkward to actually use.
18:25:13 <orbitaldecay> It's been a long time since I've looked at semi-Thue systems. Lemme read the wiki real quick
18:26:03 <orbitaldecay> Ah, I see. Yeah associativity would basically give you a semi-thue system
18:27:11 <orbitaldecay> The crucial thing I want is for all x in <*> to have x^-1 in <*> where xx^(-1) = e
18:27:21 <orbitaldecay> not necessarily matching on the left and right sides
18:27:56 <orbitaldecay> either under the * operation, or under application (which I don't think is possible)
18:34:57 <int-e> I suspect this can be done but probably not in a satisfactory way; what I'd try is write a combinator that can distinguish S, K, and itself, and basically does symbolic evaluation on top of that. So... eww.
18:36:41 <orbitaldecay> Hmm, sounds unsatisfactory. I'm going to spend some time exploring subsets of combinators and see what I can come up with. Even if I don't get to the point of doing useful computation, it would be cool to find something isomorphic to some algebraic structures
18:40:05 <imode> when you work at the level of quarks and gluons, don't be surprised when you have to build atoms.
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19:07:35 <int-e> imode: but you don't have to enjoy it
19:11:40 <imode> who said anything about enjoying it. :P
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19:43:24 <rain1> have you tried the combinator birds book, to mock a mockingbird
19:44:41 <rain1> i feel like any inverse would work only a set that is not turing complete
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21:34:20 <zzo38> I am trying to figure out how to make the random pack function in TeXnicard. I have some ideas, but I thought one thing that would be needed is to be able to pair cards together so that one card requires or excludes another card or alters the probability of including that other card (or group of cards), but I am not sure what to do about that.
21:34:26 <zzo38> Do you have some ideas?
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