> 1589846400 478612 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Clementine14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=72456&oldid=72455 5* 03Orby 5* (+36) 10/* Translation from Underload into Clementine */ Bolding Clementine commands
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< 1589846512 941865 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :orbitaldecay: I haven't checked in detail, but it doesn't look wrong, at least
< 1589846532 265605 :orbitaldecay!~bob@forder.cc PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, thanks. I'll go back over them as well.
< 1589846605 453316 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-48-139.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here is a custom Magic: the Gathering card that I found in a box with other card games: Sad Jester {UU} Creature - Human (0/1) ;; {WB}, {T}: Add {UU}.
> 1589846656 303203 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Clementine14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=72458&oldid=72457 5* 03Orby 5* (+6) 10/* Translation from Clementine into Underload */ Bolding more clementine commands
< 1589846749 766250 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: that doesn't look like a very powerful card
< 1589846814 296120 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-48-139.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it doesn't look that good to me either
< 1589847017 386020 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe it's better in the presence of other cards, like Festering Newt/Bogbrew Witch/Bubbling Cauldron.
< 1589847055 319602 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-101.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are creatures that tap to convert color, but I think they take just one mana as input
< 1589847070 149551 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-101.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/convert/filter/
< 1589847073 915340 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-48-139.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. Although I looked and found a lot more custom cards too.
< 1589847087 304708 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-101.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and some might take {1}... let me search
> 1589847111 662499 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Salpynx/Pico14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=72459&oldid=72340 5* 03Salpynx 5* (+5162) 10now with full brainfuck IO support in 2 symbols. My brain does hurt now.
< 1589847172 308874 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-101.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` card-by-name "Ceta Disciple" # a search finds a few
< 1589847173 769557 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ceta Disciple \ U \ Creature -- Merfolk Wizard \ 1/1 \ {R}, {T}: Target creature gets +2/+0 until end of turn. \ {G}, {T}: Add one mana of any color. \ AP-C
< 1589847179 759856 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-101.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`card-by-name Fire Sprites
< 1589847180 570556 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fire Sprites \ 1G \ Creature -- Faerie \ 1/1 \ Flying \ {G}, {T}: Add {R}. \ LE-C, ME3-C
< 1589847185 896692 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-101.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`card-by-name Helionaut
< 1589847186 670081 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :Helionaut \ 2W \ Creature -- Human Soldier \ 1/2 \ Flying \ {1}, {T}: Add one mana of any color. \ AP-C
< 1589847198 579721 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-101.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`card-by-name Neera Disciple
< 1589847199 340471 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
< 1589847200 421514 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-48-139.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some seem a little bit too powerful, some seem a bit too less powerful, and some of them have effects that won't work or that are unclear. One of them says if it is tapped at the end of your turn, shuffle it into your library. It should probably be something like "At the beginning of each end step, if ~ is tapped, shuffle it into its owner's library."
< 1589847263 699564 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-101.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`card-by-name Viridian Acolyte
< 1589847264 457059 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :Viridian Acolyte \ G \ Creature -- Elf Shaman \ 1/1 \ {1}, {T}: Add one mana of any color. \ DST-C
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> 1589853771 522869 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Salpynx/Pico14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=72468&oldid=72460 5* 03Salpynx 5* (+1076) 10ideas for next steps
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< 1589867543 544517 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-48-139.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How common is it to use unusual headers for commentary on Usenet?
< 1589867692 97087 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I imagine you could single-handedly make it very common.
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< 1589868197 404118 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-48-139.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have seen at least two writers who have done such things (although I am not one of them).
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> 1589907933 595568 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Special:Log/upload14]]4 upload10 02 5* 03UltimateProGrammer 5* 10uploaded "[[02File:B^2 Editor.png10]]"
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< 1589917248 741036 :orbitaldecay!~bob@forder.cc PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any underload wizzes around?
< 1589917361 799027 :orbitaldecay!~bob@forder.cc PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying to convert the clementine e combinator to underload to establish the simple translation
< 1589917491 724730 :orbitaldecay!~bob@forder.cc PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's obviously possible in theory, but I can't figure it out as I don't know enough of the underload tricks
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> 1589919994 242619 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Clementine14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=72509 5* 03Orby 5* (+195) 10Created page with "I'm trying to find a nice basis which we'll call '''e''' and '''k''' s.t. '''[]''', '''[e]''', '''[k]''', and k are complete. There are many, but it would be nice to find a re..."
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< 1589922596 966897 :salpynx!794954f8@121.73.84.248 PRIVMSG #esoteric :orbitaldecay: I've just been looking at Clementine and Underload. Not sure if you have seen my wip Pico page https://esolangs.org/wiki/User:Salpynx/Pico but it is a wip 2 commands representing a single bf-like contaminator function
< 1589922650 696458 :salpynx!794954f8@121.73.84.248 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm likely to change all the encodings soon, but it should be able to implement any of the bit or byte wise bf minimisations using simple tanslations.
< 1589922752 128278 :salpynx!794954f8@121.73.84.248 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wanted to find another non-bf language to attempt a simple translation for, Clementine / Underload seems like great candidates. Underload uses concepts that I seem to have implement in pico(), so it might not be too difficult
< 1589922762 312620 :orbitaldecay!~bob@forder.cc PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was looking at that! Very cool!
< 1589922796 464001 :orbitaldecay!~bob@forder.cc PRIVMSG #esoteric :Underload has been minimized to M^, but it's not very pretty
< 1589922830 926834 :salpynx!794954f8@121.73.84.248 PRIVMSG #esoteric :orbitaldecay: I'd be interested to hear your thoughts on how that relates to picofuck. I'm still exploring my meta-interpreter ideas, but I think they basically boil down to the same thing when trying to minimise into two symbols
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< 1589922954 902935 :salpynx!794954f8@121.73.84.248 PRIVMSG #esoteric :'contaminator' function? I meant 'combinator' -- I didn't think I had an auto-correct here. That may have been a Freudian-slip.
< 1589923055 494079 :orbitaldecay!~bob@forder.cc PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, I'm still getting my head around the underload minimization, but it will definitely have ramifications on pico
< 1589923074 427465 :salpynx!794954f8@121.73.84.248 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd approach it by figuring out a bf translation for each Underload operation and then try to combine and minimise from there. Has anyone made an Underload interpreter in bf?
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< 1589923480 811153 :salpynx!794954f8@121.73.84.248 PRIVMSG #esoteric :when the definition of pico() stabilises , I can begin to think about how that algorithm might be translated into rbf, or something else. I imagine it'll be more painful than getting it to work in python.
< 1589923530 204006 :orbitaldecay!~bob@forder.cc PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, underload and bf are wildly different beasts. I'm fairly happy with what I have on the page right now. I just need to find a way to write * in terms of [e], [k], k and []
< 1589923550 602897 :orbitaldecay!~bob@forder.cc PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool, yeah doing it in python then translating is smart
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< 1589923893 509878 :salpynx!794954f8@121.73.84.248 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need to get some work done today, but I'll read through more Clementine and Underload and explore their simple translations more later.
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< 1589924056 942129 :salpynx!794954f8@121.73.84.248 PRIVMSG #esoteric :small nitpick, when I see CT I think Cyclic Tag. Not sure if that could be counted as a 'common' confusion though :)
< 1589924339 805698 :orbitaldecay!~bob@forder.cc PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good point. Feel free to alter it if you think of a better abreviation.
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< 1589926416 247326 :orbitaldecay!~bob@forder.cc PRIVMSG #esoteric :salpynx: does the restricted ct make sense?
< 1589926443 149676 :orbitaldecay!~bob@forder.cc PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need to find a way to express * in it
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> 1589931521 206672 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Sea14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=72528 5* 03Orby 5* (+85) 10Created page with "Working on this ~~~~"
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