00:13:12 -!- impomatic has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 00:28:37 [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * Tetrapyronia * New user account 00:31:18 [[Circlefuck]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=75538&oldid=34628 * Bangyen * (+155) 00:34:08 [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=75539&oldid=75502 * Tetrapyronia * (+174) 00:39:12 [[Affine Mess]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=75540&oldid=75460 * Caenbe * (+2353) Add interpreter; changed cat to reflect this 00:42:26 [[Affine Mess]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=75541&oldid=75540 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+4) /* Interpreter */ link 00:43:05 [[Circlefuck]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=75542&oldid=75538 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+4) Link 00:43:38 [[Noisett]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=75543&oldid=43389 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+4) Link 00:45:28 [[Affine Mess]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=75544&oldid=75541 * Caenbe * (+605) Added examples 00:46:42 [[Esolang:Sandbox]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=75545&oldid=75491 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+0) 00:47:37 [[Language list]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=75546&oldid=75534 * Caenbe * (+18) Added Affine Mess 01:40:31 [[Language list]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=75547&oldid=75546 * Bangyen * (+13) /* F */ 01:50:28 [[User:Bangyen]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=75548&oldid=75445 * Bangyen * (+257) 02:52:20 -!- catern has quit (Excess Flood). 02:54:11 -!- adu has joined. 02:54:46 Where do I find a cuneiform expert online at this hour? 02:55:17 I don't know? But I suppose you could try writing and see if anyone responds later. 02:55:22 "๐’‰๐’น๐’„‘๐’ ๐’‚ท๐’น๐’Œ‘ ๐’ด๐’•๐’ฆ ๐’€ญ๐’‰ก ๐’„ข๐’ต ๐’‰ฃ๐’บ๐’Œ‹ ๐’•๐’†๐’ˆจ ๐’Ž—๐’๐’Œ‹ ๐’„ฟ๐’…•๐’‘™ ๐’„ฅ" 02:55:41 `unidecode ๐’‰๐’น๐’„‘๐’ 02:55:43 โ€‹[U+1224F CUNEIFORM SIGN NIM] [U+12079 CUNEIFORM SIGN DISH] [U+12111 CUNEIFORM SIGN GISH] [U+12041 CUNEIFORM SIGN BAD] 02:56:04 . o O ( BAD SIGN ) 02:56:12 I know how it sounds, it took me a week to transcribe it 02:56:46 -!- catern has joined. 03:21:04 adu: I don't actually see the symbols in my terminal. (But I also have no clue what they are.) 03:22:09 how to paste image on irc...? 03:22:45 https://www.studenthandouts.com/00/200002/babylonian-cuneiform-capstone.jpg 03:24:28 So this is probably the stupidest translation job, because it's allegedly already translated 03:27:14 I remember reading something about that, seem to remember it being not that old 03:27:31 Yes, it's from 1980 03:27:48 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgia_Guidestones 03:28:50 Probably best is a URL to link (like you have), although I have also seen magnet: URLs (which, if they don't specify how to download them, aren't very useful unless you already have it), and data: URIs (which are too long). 03:28:55 I forgot my russian numbers. 100, 1000, 1000000, all gone. 03:30:45 But where does the cuneiform come from in that case? 03:31:01 wait, I see it in the image 03:32:10 That's an odd one. 03:33:38 *checks* almost 4.5 billion people at the time 03:33:51 so wtf is that 500M number? 03:34:02 Probably the work of the devil 03:35:26 so the "10 evil commandments" are written in 8 living languages, which have probably been read by someone in their native language 03:35:50 there's a shorter phrase written on the top in 4 dead languages, which is what I'm interested in 03:36:24 like does it really say the phrase as the English that is offered up? or does it have some evil nuance? 03:38:22 https://worldeventsandthebible.com/documentary/mystery-of-georgia-guidestones seems to suggest "Let These Be Guidestones To Reason" 03:39:09 (I quackquackwent "Georgia Guidestones" "babylonian") 03:39:19 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgia_Guidestones#Explanatory_tablet <-- also stated here 03:40:18 Arcorann: Ah. Reading is hard :) 03:41:30 (And skimming is harder... "Around the edges of the square are written translations to" is too convoluted for me to be parsed instantly.) 03:41:56 https://translate.google.com/#view=home&op=translate&sl=el&tl=en&text=%CE%91%CF%85%CF%84%CE%AD%CF%82%20%CE%BF%CE%AF%20%CE%BB%CE%AF%CE%B8%CE%BF%CE%B9%20%CF%84%CE%B7%CE%BD%20%CE%BF%CE%B4%CF%8C%CE%BD%0A%CE%B4%CE%B5%CE%B9%CE%BA%CE%BD%CF%85%CE%BD%CF%84%CF%89%CE%BD%20%CE%B1%CE%B9%CF%89%CE%BD%CE%B9%20%CF%83%CF%89%CF%86%CF%81%CE%BF%CF%83%CF%85%CE%BD%CE%B7%CF%82 03:41:58 They are ten different things, I think. The third one isn't so good; people can speak whatever language they like to do. 03:41:59 I find the "to" very subtle :) 03:42:27 Arcorann: thanks! 03:43:01 So the ancient greek is supposed to be "Ancient" but if you put it in a modern greek translater, you get that 03:43:10 "These stones the way, Indicators of eternal wisdom" 03:43:24 Maintaining 500M population sounds great, but there's no peaceful way to get there. 03:43:43 adu: That does sounds like a plausible translation. 03:43:58 indicator <--> guide... 03:44:02 close enough. 03:44:17 int-e: Well, don't have human children and then they will hopefully be reduced a bit. 03:44:57 zzo38: Sounds good until you realize it has to be a world-wide effort to have a meaningful effect. 03:45:21 For example, China kind of tried, and are now abandoning the attempt. 03:48:05 Oh well, let me go for a walk before it gets warm outside. (Oh, I might actually need more than just a t-shirt. Nice.) 03:48:08 @metar lowi 03:48:08 LOWI 080320Z AUTO VRB01KT 9999 NCD 10/08 Q1020 03:58:00 Further down it's suggested that the stones were intended for people rebuilding after the collapse of civliisation, implying that the human population would be already under 500 million 04:00:03 The tenth item is good, I think. But regardless of what is your opinions of any of this stuff, I think to have free speech to write what they like to write. Different people have different opinions of it, which is good. 04:01:24 (Except, they repeat themself) 04:02:57 Arcorann: Yes, that is a possibility, too. The lack of dates for the time capsule suggests they may have intended to put it later due to such thing, maybe, or maybe that is unrelated 04:04:07 But, I don't see the ancient languages writing on Wikipedia, just it mentions what languages it is. 04:05:57 zzo38: ikr 04:06:05 it's like a puzzle 04:06:40 Yes, I suppose so. 04:06:53 I haven't started on the Egyptian Hyroglyphics 04:07:20 well, I think I got the first part, "๐“‹ด๐“Œซ๐“…“๐“‚ป ๐“‡’๐“’" 04:08:25 but most of the hyroglyphics translators are of the transliteration variety 04:40:23 "เคฝเคฐเคฎเคพเคจเฅŠเคฆเคฟเคฐเคพเคพเคฎ เคฆเคฟเคฐเคพเคคเฅ–เคฏเฅ–เค—เคพเคฏเคฎเคค" 04:52:45 [[Talk:Factor]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=75549 * Salpynx * (+1829) zero-dimensional polyglots 04:52:58 -!- imode has joined. 05:02:48 [[Factor]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=75550&oldid=75457 * Bangyen * (+909) 05:12:19 -!- b_jonas has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 05:34:10 -!- adu has quit (Quit: adu). 05:46:26 -!- rain1 has joined. 06:05:40 [[Factor]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=75551&oldid=75550 * Salpynx * (+71) clarify residue is not a character but a value. I hope 0 and 9 aren't reserved, but they seem ignored too 06:08:32 [[Brainfoctal]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=75552&oldid=58551 * Salpynx * (+77) categories 06:16:55 [[Brainfoctal]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=75553&oldid=75552 * Salpynx * (+284) /* Polyglots */ Clearly I have been waiting two years to write a Gdel polyglot... 06:29:38 -!- craigo has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds). 08:01:28 -!- atslash has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 08:02:16 -!- atslash has joined. 08:20:32 -!- imode has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 09:18:10 -!- cpressey has joined. 09:53:53 -!- FreeFull has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 09:54:04 -!- FreeFull has joined. 10:36:48 -!- TheLie has joined. 10:37:38 -!- Lord_of_Life_ has joined. 10:39:44 -!- Lord_of_Life has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds). 10:39:45 -!- Lord_of_Life_ has changed nick to Lord_of_Life. 10:47:57 [[Talk:Javagony Turing-completeness proof]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=75554&oldid=74945 * Chris Pressey * (+260) 10:52:56 @tell arseniiv Maybe instead of implementing Generalized Minksy Machine in Tandem, there could just be Generalized Tandem? Associate each of the individual rewrite rules with a constructor like GMM associates each MM instruction with a constructor? 10:52:56 Consider it noted. 10:54:00 -!- cpressey has quit (Quit: WeeChat 1.9.1). 11:02:49 -!- arseniiv has joined. 11:07:15 fungot whatโ€™s your take on the generalized zeta functions? 11:07:16 arseniiv: have you ever seen this strange list-of-strings behavior in their emacs? that makes no sense 11:19:01 int-e: Do you know if IntSat (the CDCL ILP algorithm) is good in practice? 11:19:05 I don't know much about ILP. 11:20:13 no clue 11:21:55 I assumed you were related due to having the same first name. 11:22:30 har dee har 11:22:59 Do you like munching on grass? Because of Schaf, you may remember... 11:30:33 Hmm. 11:30:46 That word does highlight my IRC client. 11:30:49 So I must. 11:31:17 -!- Frater_EST has joined. 11:32:47 -!- kspalaiologos has joined. 11:44:35 hee 11:57:38 [[Unary]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=75555&oldid=69430 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+53) /* Links */ cats 12:20:43 -!- TheLie has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds). 12:25:23 [[Lenguage]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=75556&oldid=60166 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+101) cats + hdr + links 12:25:39 [[Unary]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=75557&oldid=75555 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+24) /* Links */ cat 12:52:23 -!- sparr has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds). 13:00:20 -!- rain1 has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 13:02:05 -!- cpressey has joined. 13:06:53 [[User:PythonshellDebugwindow/Cmt]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=75558&oldid=75403 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+280) /* Syntax */ 13:11:26 -!- TheLie has joined. 13:19:19 -!- sparr has joined. 13:30:40 [[Esolang:Sandbox]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=75559&oldid=75545 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+203) 13:45:19 -!- Frater_EST has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 13:45:24 -!- wib_jonas has joined. 13:48:02 -!- Cale has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds). 14:00:18 I managed to write a 15-byte truth machine for UM8 14:00:22 `562264926212D2A' 14:00:25 562264926212D2A'? No such file or directory 14:01:14 5 IN C / 6 SWP A,C / 2 SWP A,B / 2 SWP A,B / 6 SWP A, C / 4 OUT C / 92 MOV A,2 / 6 SWP A,C / 2 SWP A,B / 1 A=B IF C / 2 SWP A, B / D SHL A, 1 / 2 SWP A, B / A MOV [IP=C], B 14:01:24 best viewed with s/\//\n/g; 14:01:48 honestly I can't see much room for improvement here 14:04:25 [[90]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=75560&oldid=60948 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+18) /* Analysis */ cat 14:05:44 -!- Cale has joined. 14:08:09 15 byte? aren't programs made of multiples of 4 byte instructions? 14:10:06 oh wait, UM8. I thought of UM-32 from the tom7 ICFP 14:12:46 some programs are made of single bits 14:17:10 adu: I assume you already tried to search for translations on the web 14:19:06 adu: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgia_Guidestones#Description gives a supposed translation. I don't speak akkadian, ancient greek, sanskrit, ancient egyptian, so I can't tell for sure if it's accurate. 14:20:03 so does the bottom of https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgia_Guidestones#Inschriften , which gives an English translation too 14:20:32 I assume that's not a backtranslation, but the original claimed by the creators of the monument that they were trying to translate to those languages. 14:21:03 so there are probably actually inaccurate translations, as these monuments usually go 14:43:01 -!- catern has quit (Excess Flood). 14:43:53 -!- Arcorann has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 14:47:21 -!- catern has joined. 14:57:03 -!- TheLie has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 15:00:59 -!- rain1 has joined. 15:03:08 -!- craigo has joined. 15:18:54 -!- ArthurStrong has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 15:19:01 [[96]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=75561&oldid=34055 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (-15) 15:26:43 -!- kspalaiologos has quit (Quit: Leaving). 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* DmilkaSTD * (+18) 17:26:57 -!- tromp has joined. 17:30:57 -!- tromp_ has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 17:47:33 [[BF-ASM:8]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=75569&oldid=75568 * DmilkaSTD * (+44) 17:49:34 -!- ArthurStrong has joined. 17:52:57 [[BF-ASM:8]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=75570&oldid=75569 * DmilkaSTD * (+22) 17:54:12 -!- arseniiv has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds). 17:57:10 [[BF-ASM:8]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=75571&oldid=75570 * DmilkaSTD * (+90) 17:57:42 [[User:DmilkaSTD]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=75572&oldid=75512 * DmilkaSTD * (+22) 18:00:55 -!- ArthurStrong has left. 18:05:14 -!- arseniiv has joined. 18:05:26 -!- imode has joined. 18:06:04 -!- aaaaaa has joined. 18:08:38 -!- b_jonas has joined. 18:24:43 Now I read about Quasijarus compression format, which has the same .Z extension as UNIX compression, but the format is like gzip except the different header, which doesn't include the filename and timestamp. 18:26:11 (That is apparently now the compression format used in BSD.) 18:28:39 -!- tromp_ has joined. 18:32:29 -!- tromp has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds). 18:35:51 [[Surtic]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=75573&oldid=74584 * Digital Hunter * (+109) /* Example programs */ added a quine program 18:36:16 [[Surtic]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=75574&oldid=75573 * Digital Hunter * (+17) /* Quine */ 18:42:52 (Or at least, some versions of BSD.) 18:48:09 [[Microjump]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=75575&oldid=74399 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+239) cats 18:48:52 zzo38: how does such a format even get created? isn't gzip as old as zlib? 18:49:05 and the filename is optional in the gzip format 18:49:45 I know people also use zlib without the header, but that's mostly for network formats 18:50:13 [[Dig straight down like an idiot]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=75576&oldid=72646 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+122) cats 18:54:25 I think this format is supported only on VAX versions of BSD (although it could easily be implemented on other systems too), and they did that because they didn't want GNU software in their system nor the extra stuff in the gzip header, but also didn't like LZW and wanted a better compression algorithm. 19:00:10 I see 19:04:11 [[User:ZippyMagician/Ideas]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=75577&oldid=75527 * ZippyMagician * (+13) Update 19:04:24 [[User:ZippyMagician/Ideas]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=75578&oldid=75577 * ZippyMagician * (+1) Same as last change 19:06:15 [[User talk:Emerald]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=75579&oldid=73227 * DmilkaSTD * (+120) 19:13:31 zzo38: Quasijarus is a VAX version of 4.3 BSD from the 80s, and yes it's to switch to gzip algorithm while keeping the whole current system otherwise unchanged 19:13:49 is a modern branch of* 19:19:07 [[Comp]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=75580&oldid=69482 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+2) pipe->nil 19:31:13 -!- 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