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05:16:57 <int-e> . o O ( getting worse. no code for today. )
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05:22:25 <int-e> shachaf: Never mind about being stuck, I just missed a corner case. I've reached the end now, though obviously there are some lose ends yet to discover...
05:22:58 <shachaf> Hopefully you reached the win end rather than a lose end.
05:23:03 <int-e> Currently 450 islands, 3 friends... missing at least 2 more friends (I've seen them, but not managed to get there)
05:23:09 <int-e> there's a lose end?
05:23:16 <shachaf> That's what you said.
05:23:24 <int-e> loose, oops
05:23:27 <int-e> thanks
05:24:16 <int-e> (actually the final island is all one land mass but counts as several islands)
05:25:50 <shachaf> I didn't mean to do an obnoxious correction. I was instead trying to make an obnoxious opportunistic pun.
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05:27:21 <int-e> it's okay, I just hadn't noticed my typo
05:55:09 <int-e> oh... winning removes the global clouds, leaving only the ones over islands you have not yet visited
05:55:22 <int-e> that seems useful for eventual completion
05:55:42 <int-e> and I made another friend
05:57:44 <int-e> What else is interesting... I've reached the 13 hours mark.
06:02:27 <shachaf> That's a lot more than my hours.
06:02:40 <shachaf> I should catch up in islands or at least in hours.
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08:41:24 <b_jonas> day 5 is much simpler than day 4, but perhaps only because I'm familiar with this sort of problem
08:50:54 <Hooloovo0> so I'm on another channel where people are doing AoC, #cemetech on efnet
08:51:35 <b_jonas> hi Hooloovo0
08:51:52 <Hooloovo0> they also have a "write something in a bunch of languages" challenge... which seems like exactly the kind of thing yall would be interested in
08:51:56 <Hooloovo0> what's up?
08:56:45 <int-e> b_jonas: it's worse, the input generator sucks
08:58:02 <int-e> (as mentioned earlier I didn't write any special code)
08:58:09 <b_jonas> int-e: the input generator for what?
08:58:20 <int-e> for AoC today
08:58:51 <b_jonas> int-e: how so? doesn't it just generate an interval less one and shuffle it?
08:59:24 <int-e> b_jonas: try sort < input | sed s=.........== and see if you can see a pattern
09:00:03 <int-e> no, it has plenty of gaps
09:00:24 <int-e> hmm
09:00:27 <b_jonas> hmm
09:00:29 <int-e> you're right
09:01:07 <b_jonas> int-e: what pattern? if you sort it you'll get them all in order, so they have to be consecutive numbers in binary. 
09:01:27 <b_jonas> it has to be LRLRLRL... with one stumble in it
09:01:47 <b_jonas> but it's probably shuffled
09:02:05 <b_jonas> as for the gaps, the spec asks you to give the gap as a solution, and the one I got has exactly one gap, I verified that when solving
09:02:16 <b_jonas> no free seats on this airplane
09:02:38 <int-e> I didn't think the plane would be fully occupied
09:03:20 <int-e> okay now I'm even more disappointed
09:03:28 <b_jonas> int-e: the spec says "It's a completely full flight, so your seat should be the only missing boarding pass in your list."
09:04:11 <int-e> how do you even get on the plane without a boarding pass
09:04:54 <int-e> anyway, you're right, it's boring by specification, not by accident
09:05:32 <int-e> And I solved it by hand.
09:05:52 <int-e> (and sort and dc for conversion from binary)
09:06:57 <b_jonas> int-e: the story may have happened before 2001
09:07:38 <b_jonas> int-e: but even now, everyone knows how imperfect the security is in airports
09:07:45 <b_jonas> you can find stories about it on the internet
09:08:06 <int-e> Yeah it's largely security theater
09:08:47 <int-e> or commercial interest (the liquid restrictions make food vendors in the transit zone quite happy I'm sure)
09:09:30 <b_jonas> int-e: but to be precise, I think the protagonist lost their boarding pass in the long queuing corridor between the electronic boarding pass check and the airplane. an attendent at the airplane entrance looks at some of the boarding passes, but mostly to direct you to the right seat if you want, and at that point I think they let on anyone without a boarding pass
09:09:47 <int-e> true
09:10:24 <b_jonas> or this is still in one of the foreign lands that Mario visits, with star coins and red star/dragon coins, and it works quite different from our world
09:10:49 <b_jonas> ok give me a second, Irregular is about to update
09:10:59 <b_jonas> I want to catch it in the first second
09:11:14 <b_jonas> yup, late by a few seconds as usual so I had to keep refreshing
09:12:07 <b_jonas> well, not really late, but a few seconds after the nominal update time which is given to a minute precision only
09:14:17 <b_jonas> and actually not even that anymore, because the FAQ no longer mentions the update time, only the forum and a news entry about moving it one hour earlier does
09:14:59 <b_jonas> that change really felt strange at first by the way, changing the reliable schedule that has been there for a decade and only broken a few times by accident and once deliberately during that
09:17:20 <b_jonas> Irregular is like 17 years old, it's crazy
09:17:49 <b_jonas> well, a bit less since it had years of hiatus
09:17:51 <b_jonas> but sttill
09:18:17 <b_jonas> the time of day when it and the other comics were published was unchanged for a very long time, even through the hiatus
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10:09:41 <int-e> `grwp gray
10:09:44 <HackEso> No output.
10:09:45 <int-e> `grwp grey
10:09:46 <HackEso> gray:Gray is e common misspalling of grey.
10:10:20 <int-e> How about "græy"
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10:27:08 <b_jonas> `? græy
10:27:10 <HackEso> græy? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
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11:32:36 <b_jonas> fungot, are you friends with any of the Ancient ones?
11:32:36 <fungot> b_jonas: the man spat on the ground and, after they've done it, though, complaining like badly oiled pumps and smelling like a thousand damp carpets. men in djeliba moved among them and occasionally hit them with the other scrap. keep ‘em separate. keep a pot special for it, and all you needed to boil an egg," said
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12:31:06 <fizzie> b_jonas: Yeah, so about that "usually the solution space is larger" comment, I was basing that on 2019, when it was true even for early days. This year is shaping to be somewhat different.
12:31:13 <fizzie> Also wrote my day 5 expecting there to be something about rows and columns separately in part 2, but there wasn't. Now I'm wondering whether to streamline that from `pass -> (row, col) -> ID` to `pass -> ID`. But I've got unit tests for the steps separately already.
12:32:44 <myname> there is
12:33:08 <myname> convert F and L to 0 and B and R to 1, parse as binary
12:37:32 <b_jonas> fizzie: heh, yeah, this one was so easy I didn't even consider brute forcing the solution space without looking at the boarding slips, but I guess it would have been thematically appropriate, just trying to sit in every seat and see if I'm kicked out
12:38:55 <b_jonas> the first part was so quick that I didn't have time to wonder what the second part would have, plus the first part already basically gave away that you're looking at the boarding passes to find your seat that's missing from them, so it wasn't much of a surprise
12:39:37 <b_jonas> but admittedly I didn't know before that that it would be a single interval, with like all eight seats existing in all rows (except first and last), unlike on a real airplane
12:39:46 <b_jonas> this is like a one-dimensional airplane
12:41:18 <b_jonas> or a 21st century one: a discount airline with no first class section with fewer seats per row, because that's not their business model, if someone has money for first class they will buy it from an airline whose service is not so bad as theirs
12:41:20 <myname> i don't think it's more one-dimensional than a real airplane
12:45:13 <b_jonas> I still don't understand part of their business model: there are people who pay for the supposed privilage of boarding the airplane earlier. why? isn't that a hindrance? even the worst waiting room is more comfortable than an airplane, so I always try to get on the plane as late as possible, to spend the least time on it.
12:46:52 <b_jonas> at least that was the situation before 2020; I haven't exprienced airplane flight since then
12:49:15 <b_jonas> even selling the supposed privilage of choosing your seat seems weird to me. that one at least isn't a clear drawback, but I'm not paying for that, and typically get the good seats: the ones that are close to the aisle so I can get up easily, and not in the extra legroom rows, which means I can keep some of my luggage close, under the seat in front of me. this doesn't always work, I have been seated at 
12:49:21 <b_jonas> the extra legroom emergency exit row once, but usually it does. 
12:49:40 <b_jonas> but admittedly some people have very long legs, and for them the extra legroom rows may be an advantage
12:51:19 <myname> i am working in a software company for the aviation industry and never sat in a plane :D
12:51:58 <fizzie> I'm not sure how "there is" was an answer to what I said.
12:53:08 <fizzie> I think I took an intra-US flight on a plane that was kind of like that, except with 6 columns rather than 8.
12:53:31 <fizzie> Although it couldn't have been that one, because they had no seat reservations either.
12:54:55 <fizzie> (You get a boarding number based on how early you checked in and whether you paid extra to get a lower number, and then they just sort you in a queue based on that number and board in that order, and seats are first-come-first-served.)
12:55:53 <b_jonas> myname: and I'm working in a software company for the chemical industry, but never used the things that those chemical plants produce.
12:56:32 <b_jonas> fizzie: yes, American flights work somewhat differently from European ones
12:56:38 <b_jonas> in multiple ways
12:58:12 <b_jonas> myname: and I sat on airplanes too many times
12:58:27 <b_jonas> and probably will, because these days it's too cheap
12:58:50 <myname> go so so, you may as well secure my job :S
12:58:52 <myname> :D
12:59:37 <b_jonas> well, probably not during the pandemic
12:59:59 <b_jonas> but my mother will arrive home soon (next weekend), on airplane
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13:35:06 <Arcorann> Actually this airplane is really big - I can't think of any commercial plane that seats over 900 people
13:37:11 <esowiki> [[Ewpl]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=79180&oldid=79173 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+26) /* Hello, world! program */ implemented
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13:40:44 <b_jonas> Arcorann: true
13:40:59 <b_jonas> that part is a bit futuristic
13:41:42 <b_jonas> although I prefer a future where that won't be necessary because the vacuum train network that Elon Musk builds takes the bulk of the passenger traffic
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13:44:05 <fizzie> Wikipedia says you can in theory stick 853 passengers on an A380, which is pretty close.
13:44:48 <fizzie> "Other proposed variants included an A380-900 stretch – seating -- up to 960 passengers in an all-economy configuration --"
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15:19:51 <b_jonas> fungot, what does the "S" in "SQL" stand for? suffering? or several, for how many different dialects there are?
15:19:51 <fungot> b_jonas: in the sudden silence. ' i really must be off, then. maybe you could... help us?"
15:20:51 <b_jonas> "sudden silence"? ok.
15:33:17 <esowiki> [[Finite State Brainfuck]]  https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=79188&oldid=79183 * Delta23 * (+41) confirmed finite with inputs
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15:49:24 <fizzie> b_jonas: It's not actually an "S", it's the Kryptonian symbol of hope, which just coincidentally happens to resemble the letter S of the Latin alphabet, and is therefore usually rendered using that for technical reasons.
15:52:43 <b_jonas> fizzie: I see
15:53:34 <b_jonas> so it's "ЅQL"?
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16:00:07 <fizzie> `unidecode Ѕ
16:00:10 <HackEso> ​[U+0405 CYRILLIC CAPITAL LETTER DZE]
16:00:21 <fizzie> I'm not an expert, maybe that's closer.
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17:42:18 <arseniiv> int-e: b_jonas: . o O ( Græy is an uncommon spelling of both. )
17:42:32 <arseniiv> `? both
17:42:34 <HackEso> both? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
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