> 1607215143 455260 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07A0A014]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=79201&oldid=79168 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+9) 10/* Implementations */ wayback, list > 1607215899 567167 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Noodle Soup14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=79202&oldid=71057 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+18) 10/* Hello World */ lk < 1607216919 396263 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-135.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :this will be the first Christmas that I won't be celebrating while being in person together with my brother. it's a bit sad. < 1607216942 170689 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-135.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :we'll still have some internet stuff of course < 1607218133 528699 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oddly enough, we've spent the last five Christmases here in the UK without meeting any family, but now we're planning on doing the video call thing, even though we could've done that any of the past years. < 1607218627 798922 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-135.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's been mixed for us, there were two non-consecutive years where we spent christmas at my brothers' in Sweden, which has the drawback of not being able to spend one day around christmas with my grandma < 1607218778 718728 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone who wishes to help for testing with Free Hero Mesh can compare with the behaviour of the EKS Hero Mesh; you will need the 16-bit Windows shareware version of Hero Defiant or Falling Hero (I think the 32-bit versions disable the class editor if you do not register, but the 16-bit versions still allow it to be used). < 1607218988 456536 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@46.217.217.114 JOIN :#esoteric < 1607219125 182350 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@46.217.216.2 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1607219130 330655 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@46.217.217.114 NICK :Lord_of_Life < 1607219366 889467 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode JOIN :#esoteric < 1607219497 616337 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode QUIT :Client Quit < 1607219514 510177 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode JOIN :#esoteric < 1607219534 656689 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode QUIT :Client Quit < 1607219550 490515 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode JOIN :#esoteric < 1607219585 565066 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode QUIT :Client Quit < 1607219600 476929 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode JOIN :#esoteric < 1607219605 295341 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode QUIT :Client Quit < 1607219751 994035 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What exactly is "VCC+GIGICAR 1989 !!"? Some Amiga music files contain this as the title, and they are not all the same music. < 1607219792 272993 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode JOIN :#esoteric < 1607219847 888920 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(They do not all identify the same composers either) < 1607220189 540781 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The database says there are two Frenchpeople with those names, http://janeway.exotica.org.uk/author.php?id=3895 and http://janeway.exotica.org.uk/author.php?id=36020 -- so perhaps that's related somehow. < 1607220569 946311 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, maybe it is related. < 1607231140 440110 :MDude!~MDude@71.50.47.112 QUIT :Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com) < 1607232766 569967 :adu!~arobbins@c-76-111-99-194.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1607235200 756676 :adu!~arobbins@c-76-111-99-194.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1607237751 422035 :xelxebar!~xelxebar@gateway/tor-sasl/xelxebar QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1607237799 726304 :xelxebar!~xelxebar@gateway/tor-sasl/xelxebar JOIN :#esoteric < 1607241184 573331 :iovoid!iovoid@hellomouse/dev/iovoid QUIT :Quit: iovoid has quit! < 1607241207 420461 :iovoid!iovoid@hellomouse/dev/iovoid JOIN :#esoteric < 1607242107 825835 :aaaaaa!~ArthurStr@188.163.100.177 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1607242408 993727 :aaaaaa!~ArthurStr@188.163.100.177 JOIN :#esoteric > 1607243468 817178 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Cybertelx 5* 10New user account > 1607243650 593940 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=79203&oldid=79164 5* 03Cybertelx 5* (+238) 10 > 1607243723 543392 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Cybertelx14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=79204 5* 03Cybertelx 5* (+106) 10Created page with "Hi guys! I'm Cybertelx, the creator of a programming language known as Dick, published on npm as Dicklang." < 1607245677 812169 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds > 1607246176 432997 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Dick14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=79205 5* 03Cybertelx 5* (+1757) 10dick > 1607246240 41088 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Dick14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=79206&oldid=79205 5* 03Cybertelx 5* (+63) 10added some clarification > 1607246487 738989 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Dick14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=79207&oldid=79206 5* 03Cybertelx 5* (+106) 10added categories > 1607246541 589955 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=79208&oldid=79178 5* 03Cybertelx 5* (+11) 10 > 1607246582 123290 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Dick14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=79209&oldid=79207 5* 03Cybertelx 5* (-28) 10remove joke lang < 1607246977 679742 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@46.217.217.114 QUIT :Changing host < 1607246977 679791 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 JOIN :#esoteric < 1607247766 209334 :delta23!~deltaepsi@d179-68-39-184.evv.wideopenwest.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1607250232 260429 :NeverBorn!~NeverBorn@93-41-17-168.ip79.fastwebnet.it JOIN :#esoteric < 1607250891 779489 :LKoen!~LKoen@73.174.9.109.rev.sfr.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1607253096 938579 :Discordian[m]!discordi1@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-qehgzewhenwuinpv QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1607253158 475983 :none30!none30matr@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-kqefkthjykiioohv QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1607253512 938082 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b98aa4.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1607253938 207225 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf is up with all those languages without any form of control flow < 1607253979 782540 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :which ones. < 1607254039 648719 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :imode: are you ignoring esowiki? The latest addition is https://esolangs.org/wiki/Dick which is about as terrible as it sounds, maybe more so. < 1607254043 414868 :rain1!~My_user_n@unaffiliated/rain1 JOIN :#esoteric < 1607254050 349548 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah.. < 1607254069 787665 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :imode: I'm not blaming you, but in this case you lost relevant context :) < 1607254098 349671 :Discordian[m]!discordi1@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-lyqmjgemtzmuyqwo JOIN :#esoteric < 1607254102 672832 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's less of a hard ignore, more "I just don't see it anymore". < 1607254105 923354 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :my eyes glaze over it. < 1607254117 746490 :delta23!~deltaepsi@d179-68-39-184.evv.wideopenwest.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is that language in the TC category? < 1607254142 503599 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :why did someone think that was a worthy addition. < 1607254147 719807 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumably cluelessness on part of the author < 1607254170 199589 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that may answer both questions, actually < 1607254261 450084 :delta23!~deltaepsi@d179-68-39-184.evv.wideopenwest.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lots of low effort joke esolangs on the wiki > 1607254436 291273 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Pointless14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=79210&oldid=75241 5* 03Int-e 5* (+0) 10speling of category < 1607254465 405400 :delta23!~deltaepsi@d179-68-39-184.evv.wideopenwest.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"speling" :) > 1607254543 340526 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07*14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=79211&oldid=75203 5* 03Int-e 5* (+0) 10category spilling > 1607254639 370299 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Cheems14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=79212&oldid=77575 5* 03Int-e 5* (-1) 10catypogory > 1607254709 134302 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07QTTRPG14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=79213&oldid=77578 5* 03Int-e 5* (-20) 10remove unpopulated category > 1607254757 109261 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Complack14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=79214&oldid=77804 5* 03Int-e 5* (-20) 10remove non-category > 1607254789 742543 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Categorial14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=79215&oldid=77006 5* 03Int-e 5* (-66) 10remove non-category > 1607254854 388199 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[075D 5D Brainfuck With Multiverse Time Travel With Multiverse Time Travel14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=79216&oldid=76511 5* 03Int-e 5* (-66) 10remove non-category > 1607254962 390645 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Absurd Brainfuck14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=79217&oldid=68937 5* 03Int-e 5* (-38) 10remove non-category < 1607254987 137644 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess that's the worst offenders from https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Categories&offset=&limit=500 < 1607255015 728825 :NeverBorn!~NeverBorn@93-41-17-168.ip79.fastwebnet.it QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1607255079 911269 :none30!none30matr@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-tpluxyeyibldhpuw JOIN :#esoteric < 1607255087 622908 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not sure how I feel about graph-based... it could be viable actually if it were to encompass the graph rewriting ones > 1607255228 594481 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Dick14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=79218&oldid=79209 5* 03Int-e 5* (-10) 10not TC < 1607257459 315227 :imode!~linear@unaffiliated/imode QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1607257564 289462 :aaaaaa!~ArthurStr@188.163.100.177 QUIT :Quit: leaving > 1607257828 833425 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03RSG4908 5* 10New user account > 1607258004 864779 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=79219&oldid=79203 5* 03RSG4908 5* (+295) 10 > 1607258121 592456 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:RSG490814]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=79220 5* 03RSG4908 5* (+141) 10Created page with "Hello. I'm RSG4908. I currently do not have my own esolang yet, but I am currently at this hour, trying to come up with an esoteric language." < 1607258479 69753 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-135.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: yes, the wiki is full of those. both ones with penis jokes https://esolangs.org/wiki/PenisScript https://esolangs.org/wiki/La_We%C3%A1 and stuff without control flow < 1607258479 801678 :rain1!~My_user_n@unaffiliated/rain1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I might do last years aoc < 1607258483 665467 :rain1!~My_user_n@unaffiliated/rain1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i keep hearing about the intcode > 1607258871 219196 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Skyespr 5* 10New user account > 1607258999 12715 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=79221&oldid=79219 5* 03Skyespr 5* (+167) 10added Skyespr's introduction > 1607259100 364605 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07List of ideas14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=79222&oldid=77766 5* 03Skyespr 5* (-190) 10/* Joke/Silly Ideas */ removed MLA idea after making it < 1607259141 790417 :TheLie!~TheLie@business-24-134-17-157.pool2.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric > 1607259233 719090 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=79223&oldid=79208 5* 03Skyespr 5* (+12) 10added MLang > 1607259392 187651 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07MLang14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=79224 5* 03Skyespr 5* (+9024) 10Created page, added readme from github because I didn't feel like typing the whole thing again > 1607259653 184383 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07MLang14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=79225&oldid=79224 5* 03Skyespr 5* (+31) 10formatting > 1607259752 940253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07MLang14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=79226&oldid=79225 5* 03Skyespr 5* (+2) 10 > 1607259874 351829 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07MLang14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=79227&oldid=79226 5* 03Skyespr 5* (+47) 10 < 1607260294 911379 :rain1!~My_user_n@unaffiliated/rain1 QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 2.9 < 1607260430 289193 :rain1!~My_user_n@unaffiliated/rain1 JOIN :#esoteric > 1607260944 135365 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07UClang14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=79228 5* 03RSG4908 5* (+1411) 10Create UClang language page > 1607261056 252090 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07UClang14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=79229&oldid=79228 5* 03RSG4908 5* (-74) 10 > 1607261059 256954 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07MLang14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=79230&oldid=79227 5* 03Skyespr 5* (+86) 10added output < 1607261082 365818 :dionys!dionys@gateway/shell/blinkenshell.org/x-xaacvvtpljzprofm QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 2.0.1 < 1607261095 196436 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-135.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :day 6 of Aoc 2020 is easy enough too. but then, it could get more difficult any day. < 1607261096 496431 :dionys!dionys@gateway/shell/blinkenshell.org/x-qzndpvdvnozrajjg JOIN :#esoteric > 1607261172 588071 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07MLang14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=79231&oldid=79230 5* 03Skyespr 5* (+8) 10formatting > 1607261182 992855 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Joke language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=79232&oldid=79089 5* 03RSG4908 5* (+13) 10 > 1607261284 423096 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07UClang14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=79233&oldid=79229 5* 03RSG4908 5* (+10) 10 > 1607261359 714006 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07MLang14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=79234&oldid=79231 5* 03Skyespr 5* (-8) 10 > 1607261503 584364 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07UClang14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=79235&oldid=79233 5* 03RSG4908 5* (+1) 10 > 1607261544 363097 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:UClang14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=79236 5* 03RSG4908 5* (+130) 10Created page with "can we rename this page to UClang*? okthxbyte --~~~~" > 1607261612 824869 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07UClang14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=79237&oldid=79235 5* 03RSG4908 5* (+31) 10 < 1607261623 77413 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.228.48 JOIN :#esoteric < 1607261838 317280 :earend1!uid342703@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ctucyqucppeujcfc JOIN :#esoteric > 1607262424 859558 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07UClang14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=79238&oldid=79237 5* 03RSG4908 5* (+25) 10 < 1607262434 199940 :delta23!~deltaepsi@d179-68-39-184.evv.wideopenwest.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1607262470 353671 :delta23!~deltaepsi@d179-68-39-184.evv.wideopenwest.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1607262615 802099 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'm mostly unsatisfied by all the part twos being pretty much the same as the corresponding part ones so far. < 1607262762 39907 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1607262790 796554 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :though I foolishly did today's union by concatenating strings < 1607262810 136748 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the difference is a tiny bit larger than it could be < 1607263130 401596 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-135.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I don't think they're the same. they sound similat but are always a bit harder to atually solve. < 1607263179 5737 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-135.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: I don't think that's foolish < 1607263244 655337 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-135.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I still wonder what happens if a traveler answers no to all questions. < 1607263398 654221 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :...oh, they specified the set of all questions... that corner case didn't come up. < 1607263698 850514 :rain1!~My_user_n@unaffiliated/rain1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :th e problem today did not excite me < 1607263707 984051 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The way I did today, literally the only difference between parts 1 and 2 was the choice of a boolean operator and initial value. And on day 3, part 2 was just "run part 1 five times". And on day 2, part 2 was arguably easier. < 1607263808 128545 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I liked most those puzzles last year where part 1 was solvable by just implementing the spec given in the calendar in the most straightforward way, but in part 2 that was obviously computationally infeasible, so you had to come up with something else. Unless you had overengineered part 1 already, of course. < 1607263959 912382 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://adventofcode.com/2019/day/16 and https://adventofcode.com/2019/day/22 being prime examples (though non-prime numbers) of that kind of thing, except of course you presumably can't see part 2 if you didn't do last year. < 1607264030 807821 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@46.217.217.114 JOIN :#esoteric < 1607264076 465988 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1607264105 268149 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-135.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: maybe you're better at guessing what the twist (second part) will be. I don't try to guess or make my first solution more complicated than it needs to be. today, I used one dictionary for the original, adding each letter, without bothering to do anything special between lines; for the twist I needed to use two dictionaries, the first collecting the letters of a line, the second intersecting the < 1607264111 275606 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-135.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lines. < 1607264153 556565 :Arcorann!~awych@159-196-65-46.9fc441.mel.nbn.aussiebb.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I agree, there haven't been any really challenging part 2s so far this year (day 4 was just tedious) -- I think we're all waiting for the difficulty to pick up < 1607264197 234990 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :FWIW, I realized that I only started AoC in the 10th day last year... so maybe that's why this year feels trivial so far < 1607264204 155345 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/in/on/ < 1607264229 301467 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-135.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: day 3 was the closest, though I personally converted for a one-pass read-compute to a two-pass read then compute solution, that wasn't really necessary. the first day needed to change from one loop with a dictionary to a nested loop with a dictionary, so definitely more complicated. < 1607264242 787154 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-135.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :day 2 indeed also barely changed. < 1607264299 550514 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :day 5 had identical code (none) :P < 1607264371 357334 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Mmmaybe. 2019 had the Intcode thing going on pretty early on, which was interesting in a different way, but it's true that e.g. day 4 2019 was very similar to this year so far. < 1607264421 310981 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And https://adventofcode.com/2019/day/6 was pretty simple though I generally like the graph-y ones more. < 1607264451 589197 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-135.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: for day 5, I had one line of code for the original (to convert from binary to decimal), but like ten lines of code for the twist < 1607264500 841432 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: I just inspected the sorted list manually < 1607264533 288838 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I'm not sure I'd have been faster writing code... probably not < 1607264544 519922 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was going to say, it's quite possible the shell oneliner "solution" would've been the one for the leaderboards. < 1607264546 792009 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-135.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: yes, but then how do you get from a binary number to a decimal number that you enter in the field? < 1607264559 240344 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-135.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: inspecting the sorted list would work, sure < 1607264569 802038 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :dc <<<2i1010101101p < 1607264581 204610 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-135.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't do that because I wanted to know that there's only one number missing < 1607264592 920840 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't care < 1607264614 572510 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-135.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I generally want to test and verify that the data is like what I expect. it doesn't matter for AoC, but for things I do at work it *does* help. < 1607264624 954667 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-135.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :because the data is very often not what it's supposed to be < 1607264625 385401 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I picked the first gap in the list and submitted < 1607264633 18954 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-135.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, I guess that makes sense for AoC < 1607264682 309948 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :in retrospect I should've converted to decimal, sorted, and then looked for the gap... might have saved half a minute because scanning decimals is easier < 1607264702 805119 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(for no better reason than familiarity) < 1607264721 917546 :rain1!~My_user_n@unaffiliated/rain1 QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 2.9 < 1607264733 477415 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-135.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: nah, it might be easier to find the gap in the last column of binary than in decimal < 1607264741 291619 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-135.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :since it's just two digits alternating < 1607264841 641969 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Today somebody did both parts in 1m27s... I wonder what kind of automation they have < 1607264847 547076 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and what sort of templates < 1607264891 491513 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-135.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't sort for the original btw, because the letters don't sort naturally. F=0 B=1 sorts backwards, L=0 R=1 sorts forwards. I just grepped for ^BBB and a few more greps later I found the last one. < 1607264910 729089 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-135.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :a sort could work if you tr first. < 1607264926 232397 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I imagine something like a Python repl with a few utilities like "read blank-line-separated paragraphs" would make a competitive AoC environment, at least for the simple ones. < 1607264940 649594 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-135.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: I guess you could at least automatically download the input from the webpage < 1607264962 851749 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-135.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :plus you could do way less verification than I do and submit the first attempt at an answer without checking < 1607264990 957336 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-135.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that only helps for a speed competition, which I don't care much about, for the real world work guessing wouldn't work well < 1607265256 141102 :Arcorann!~awych@159-196-65-46.9fc441.mel.nbn.aussiebb.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1607265261 456375 :rain1!~My_user_n@unaffiliated/rain1 JOIN :#esoteric < 1607265562 426364 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-135.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :by the way, in task 4 twist, several people have passports where the issue year or expiry year or both are many years before their birth year, but all those passports are denied in the twist for other reasons < 1607265585 164143 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-135.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but nobody brought a passport that expired before it was issued < 1607265640 452292 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-135.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :this mostly happens in passports with the birth year in the future, but there's one with byr:1983 iyr:1958 eyr:1979 < 1607265681 905551 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-135.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the people who bring that sort of fake document should probably get arrested and questioned, not merely denied their entry to the airplane < 1607265929 626294 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-135.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :many people also have nonexistant country codes, but the spec explicitly says to ignore that, so that's fine < 1607265948 171300 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-135.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact actual country codes seem to be rare < 1607266757 732859 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: you're definitely right though that Intcode made last year's AoC more likely to appeal to esolangers. And we did discuss the power of Intcode quite a bit back then. < 1607266995 609711 :NeverBorn!~NeverBorn@93-41-17-168.ip79.fastwebnet.it JOIN :#esoteric < 1607267805 911758 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-135.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`random-pizza < 1607267807 594902 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :random-pizza? No such file or directory < 1607267902 19560 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.228.48 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1607267989 867633 :NeverBorn!~NeverBorn@93-41-17-168.ip79.fastwebnet.it QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1607268007 536239 :NeverBorn!~NeverBorn@93-41-17-168.ip79.fastwebnet.it JOIN :#esoteric < 1607268231 293541 :user24!~user24@2a02:810a:1440:7304:3dd3:a99a:ac8e:540f JOIN :#esoteric < 1607268289 492383 :NeverBorn!~NeverBorn@93-41-17-168.ip79.fastwebnet.it QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1607268442 404341 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-135.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, does Horn Drill bypass normal damage calculation rules? < 1607268442 590275 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: ' i still don't like it," said ridcully. he scratched his chin with his free hand into a grinder? this place deserves vorbis! sheep deserve to be caught. < 1607269396 443371 :delta23!~deltaepsi@d179-68-39-184.evv.wideopenwest.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1607269538 308836 :delta23!~deltaepsi@d179-68-39-184.evv.wideopenwest.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1607269632 223166 :MDude!~MDude@71.50.47.112 JOIN :#esoteric < 1607269640 292818 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: b_jonas: Just to put some numbers on this, here's the median time in seconds to get one/two stars for the top 100s: http://ix.io/2GRX < 1607269643 527755 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The big numbers on 2020 day 1 are I think a problem when releasing the puzzle (that's why it awarded no points), and I think there's been some of those in the past too. < 1607270542 774947 :TheLie!~TheLie@business-24-134-17-157.pool2.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Remote host closed the connection > 1607270913 905108 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07UClang14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=79239&oldid=79238 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+21) 10wikilink, cat, / > 1607270993 138716 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:UClang14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=79240&oldid=79236 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+258) 10reply < 1607271313 206871 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-135.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: wow, that's a big table < 1607271328 467538 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-135.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice > 1607271803 451730 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Esolang:Sandbox14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=79241&oldid=79182 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (-219) 10Minification > 1607271822 707637 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Esolang:Sandbox14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=79242&oldid=79241 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+134) 10/* weivrevo egaugnaL */ min > 1607271853 442088 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07UClang14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=79243&oldid=79239 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+2) 10/* Instructions */ tb > 1607271952 484583 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07NDBall14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=79244&oldid=79126 5* 03Aspwil 5* (+853) 10/* Code examples */ > 1607271965 704881 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07NDBall14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=79245&oldid=79244 5* 03Aspwil 5* (-1) 10/* Add 2 numbers */ > 1607272201 815306 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Special:Log/upload14]]4 upload10 02 5* 03Aspwil 5* 10uploaded "[[02File:NDBALL.jpg10]]" > 1607272210 283314 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07NDBall14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=79247&oldid=79245 5* 03Aspwil 5* (+130) 10/* Add 2 numbers */ > 1607272238 28243 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07NDBall14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=79248&oldid=79247 5* 03Aspwil 5* (+1) 10/* Add 2 numbers */ > 1607272370 327789 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Dick14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=79249&oldid=79218 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+71) 10headers, cat, 69, not TC > 1607272401 203494 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07MLang14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=79250&oldid=79234 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+6) 10/* design parameters: */ list < 1607272446 298352 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Along those lines, here's also the twistiness rating for each day: http://ix.io/2GSu < 1607272452 957786 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Defined as the ratio between total think-time spent by the first 100 people to get two stars vs. to get one star. > 1607272458 964387 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Yo!nk14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=79251&oldid=79108 5* 03Mantita223 5* (+136) 10/* Syntax */ > 1607272476 431913 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07MLang14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=79252&oldid=79250 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+8) 10/* Hello world */ code < 1607272489 25637 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I guess it's not really that different from previous years, and in fact day 4 of 2020 was above-average twisty. > 1607272489 244779 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Yo!nk14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=79253&oldid=79251 5* 03Mantita223 5* (+12) 10/* Hello World */ > 1607272509 129172 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07MLang14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=79254&oldid=79252 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (-8) 10Undo revision 79252 by [[Special:Contributions/PythonshellDebugwindow|PythonshellDebugwindow]] ([[User talk:PythonshellDebugwindow|talk]]) (was this literal?) < 1607272533 407884 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :What was day 4 again? Oh, right, the passport verification, with the strict rules for part 2. Makes sense, I guess. > 1607272563 303955 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07MLang14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=79255&oldid=79254 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+90) 10/* output */ CATS < 1607272692 157886 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The numbers also suggest year 2019 was unusually twisty (median twistiness of 2.14, compared to 1.23, 1.53, 1.70 and 1.81 for 2015-2018 and 1.76 for 2020 so far), which might be why my expectations are amiss. < 1607272739 614602 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't argue with science. (Having some numbers equals science. (I learned that from some recent election lawsuits.)) < 1607272897 736019 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-135.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: nice < 1607272951 686805 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-135.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I wonder if we could guess from these numbers that day 7 will have the first harder task < 1607273057 829740 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That does look a little like a trend, from eyeballing the numbers. (Should've probably plotted these instead, because eyeballs are more compatible with pixels than numbers.) < 1607273126 436668 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, I didn't include today because I thought "I couldn't possibly, the day is still ongoing", but it's not like the leaderboard is going to change. < 1607273171 778458 :Guest26718!~unknown@191.95.50.41 JOIN :#esoteric < 1607273213 832518 :Guest26718!~unknown@191.95.50.41 PART :#esoteric < 1607273445 148577 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://ix.io/2GSF with day 6 included. < 1607273862 711595 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: thanks < 1607273929 379699 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so still in normal range, high variance. < 1607273963 319364 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the first couple of days in 2015 don't count, they mostly indicate a certain lack of popularity) < 1607274001 669792 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I finished Hiding Spot < 1607274041 388981 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: 609 is one of the hardest puzzles in all the game, though there are one or two more of comparable difficulty, to me. < 1607274084 959497 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: And there is one final puzzle after the 54 you can access at any time. < 1607274389 640177 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Oh ambiguity. There are 54 levels that you can access from the beginning. The final one unlocks when you've completed the other ones.) < 1607274400 321353 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-135.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: is day 1 always on --12-01 of the year given? < 1607274641 300428 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-135.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I find it a bit strange that there are 25 days, not 25, from --12-01 to --12-24 inclusive. is there an ISO standard advent calendar or something? < 1607274722 334555 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :cultural difference < 1607274852 195865 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or maybe just a matter of taste... 'Many Advent calendars take the form of a large rectangular card with "windows",[5] one for each day of December leading up to and including Christmas Eve (December 24) or Christmas Day (December 25).' < 1607274878 819455 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-135.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, probably < 1607274943 977046 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meanwhile, in Germany: "Nach 1945 setzte sich endgültig der Kalender beginnend vom 1. Dezember mit 24 Türchen durch." < 1607274962 910899 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Always trust the Germans to standardize all the important things. < 1607274963 803554 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting < 1607274987 527 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: well, but more often than not, there are german and international rules for something < 1607274997 495275 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-135.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1607275000 930026 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like jugger or quidditch < 1607275011 693839 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-135.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or chess < 1607275018 412928 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are german chess rules? < 1607275018 778908 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: Yeah I wasn't sure whether US advent calendars were universally 25 days long. < 1607275087 15913 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :One point in favor is that they tend to celebrate the 25th. One point against is that 6x4 is an aesthetically more pleasing rectangle compared to a 5x5 square. I mean, in the interest of overthinking it. < 1607275110 23140 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-135.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably. chess had a lot of variant rules, some of their differences are just phrasing and bookkeeping, some were bugs that got patched away when a player first used them in a tournament (like the bug when you used to be able to promote a pawn to an opponent's piece), some are just stupid rules that aren't used in practice (like the dead game rules) < 1607275110 471862 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :as a german, 24 is obviously the right way to go < 1607275140 318126 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-135.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: it's not 6x4 because the last day gets a larger door < 1607275141 424539 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would i ever change my figure to an opponent one? < 1607275148 203267 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: not always < 1607275179 433823 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-135.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: because in some very rare cases that lets you win an endgame < 1607275180 681768 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: because then the opponent can't capture it < 1607275190 197360 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1607275195 533442 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-135.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :give a check with very few pieces remaining < 1607275208 589341 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and there's less likelyhood of stalemate, right < 1607275215 38785 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :likelihood < 1607275224 611720 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-135.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the internet probably has an example < 1607275228 731023 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-135.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :a historical one that is < 1607275238 997357 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :of those rule gaps, 0-0-0-0 is my favorite < 1607275250 311187 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's that < 1607275347 569013 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :castling extra long. the rule phrasing it's based on stipulates that if the king hasn't moved and the rook hasn't moved, the king may castle by making two steps towards the rook while the rook moves to the crossed square... provided all intermediate squares are empty and the king is not in check before, after, or on the square it crossed. < 1607275348 78131 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-135.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: what's that? < 1607275348 754495 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, there was also castling forwards < 1607275350 866061 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1607275366 778431 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so... you promote the king pawn to a rook... has the rook moved? < 1607275375 639369 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously not < 1607275380 10445 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-135.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: oh heck < 1607275408 228728 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-135.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :can that lead the king to a point that's not aligned to a square if the rook isn't lined up nicely? < 1607275419 498166 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah < 1607275422 138711 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-135.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it would be hard to check it then < 1607275436 590282 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :also I've made that text up, trying to capture the important points < 1607275447 819690 :TheLie!~TheLie@2a02:8106:215:3300:7285:c2ff:fe0b:917f JOIN :#esoteric < 1607275490 452273 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's been a while since I learned about this. IIRC this rule interpretation was cooked up for a chess problem; it never happened in an actual game. < 1607275586 49104 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-135.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, those rules are found more often by puzzle makers than by players < 1607275654 466851 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-135.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :some rulesets also have silly bugs where it says that once the game ends, you can't change the result if an illegal move is later discovered, so you can just quickly make an illegal move that gives a checkmate, and unless the opponent is fast enough to call an umpire during your move, you've won < 1607275660 43509 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-135.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can do that right as your first move < 1607275672 193381 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh I think I need more zeros. < 1607275732 516812 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :0-0-0-0-0-0-0 (if the number of zeros represents how many squares the rook moves, which is the case for 0-0 and 0-0-0) < 1607275737 147367 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-135.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: I don't like the zeros at all, they're remains from old forms of notation. just denote castling by the logical Kb1, Kf1, Kb8, or Kf8 < 1607275768 942654 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I... like them, mostly < 1607275786 293552 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :to the extent that I care at all, which isn't very much < 1607275788 374595 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-135.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: plus if it represents how many squares the rook moves, you may have to use 0 zeroes and -1 hyphens in Fischer random chess < 1607275826 973024 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would be fun. < 1607275875 630193 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, I like that castling stands out in a game record. < 1607275889 846563 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-135.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :also the moves are Kc1, Kg1, Kc8, Kg8 because I'm stupid < 1607275945 614408 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. Which I would've noticed if I was familiar with chess notation :P < 1607275968 737977 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-135.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah, the notation with the king also doesn't work in Fischer random chess, because it may be ambigious with a normal king move < 1607275971 236309 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/familiar/fluent/ < 1607276001 55217 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-135.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you should write both? K0-0-0c1 or something < 1607276008 151342 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ow < 1607276079 465963 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-135.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or just K0c1 or something < 1607276099 853822 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-135.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the 0 takes the place of an x that indicates capture < 1607277150 202395 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why was castling notation written as "0-0" and "0-0-0" anyways? < 1607277465 437274 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, Advent starts on Sunday, so why do they call it that even though it does not start on Sunday? < 1607278003 113200 :TheLie!~TheLie@2a02:8106:215:3300:7285:c2ff:fe0b:917f QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1607280002 707877 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :"like the bug when you used to be able to promote a pawn to an opponent's piece" <-- lmao < 1607280012 323211 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a situation where this is advantageous? < 1607280057 287004 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I see there is some discussion of this < 1607280177 547704 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :0-0-0 ought to be a type of steam engine < 1607280180 956189 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :but probably not a very useful one < 1607280477 532827 :LKoen!~LKoen@73.174.9.109.rev.sfr.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1607280624 779324 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Finnish advent calendars definitely have 24 doors. < 1607280635 122532 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But we do the presents thing on the 24th as well. < 1607280685 804375 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The last day tends to get double doors. < 1607280728 419027 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And often it's not a regular pattern, since part of the fun is trying to find the next number, and that gets trickier when they're not in a grid but instead hidden away in natural edges of the picture. < 1607281077 71300 :LKoen!~LKoen@73.174.9.109.rev.sfr.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1607282098 583959 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@46.217.217.114 NICK :Lord_of_Life < 1607282170 449238 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@46.217.217.114 QUIT :Changing host < 1607282170 449314 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 JOIN :#esoteric > 1607282202 257779 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Finvara14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=79256&oldid=78715 5* 03Tetrapyronia 5* (-8) 10 < 1607282512 997067 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's cute < 1607282524 678193 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :you do regular xmas presents on the 24th? or something else? < 1607282633 167547 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes there are situations where it is an advantage to promote to opponent's piece, such as to prevent another opponent's piece from occupying it, and possibly also to avoid stalemate in some situations. I think some even older versions of the rules said that promotion is optional, and did not say that you are not allowed to promote to a king. < 1607282693 307797 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was wondering about that too < 1607282708 67540 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :having multiple kings seems disadvantageous < 1607282721 45662 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :because you'd be obliged to respond if either is in check, and you'd lose if either is in checkmate? < 1607282724 638250 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :but maybe that's not how it works < 1607282746 881499 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe these things would only apply to your last king < 1607282873 600664 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently once (I don't know if it is true) someone who did not know that promotion to king is disallowed did so, and opponent's next move was to checkmate both kings simultaneously. < 1607283164 864404 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1607284650 836272 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Regular presents, yes. Whatever that means. < 1607284713 817206 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :in my family we did regular christmas presents on the morning of the 25th, as is typical in the US, but each kid also got a book for a present on the evening of the 24th < 1607284725 856496 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :which I think was just a tradition of our family and not a particularly common thing < 1607284754 380488 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b98aa4.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1607284755 556903 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That all reminded me of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIj8NphrAFI < 1607284882 825583 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-135.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"0-0-0 ought to be a type of steam engine" or a football strategy when all players except one got the red card < 1607284904 241816 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-135.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :also not a very useful one < 1607284926 424392 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :we also did trick-or-treating on October 30th, not 31st < 1607284936 46322 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Beggar's Night" < 1607284940 701356 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a thing in certain parts of the Midwest < 1607284987 923817 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :We do trick-or-treating on Palm Sunday around Easter, curiously enough. < 1607284992 229326 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virvonta < 1607285050 861795 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca QUIT :Quit: zzo38 < 1607285117 762394 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Maybe not exactly the same, but closest we used to have, really. Although maybe these days they do a more Halloweeny thing too.) < 1607286862 227120 :Cale!~cale@cpef48e38ee8583-cm0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1607288023 661604 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1607288494 540866 :sebbu2!~sebbu@lfbn-dij-1-1065-70.w90-125.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1607288553 181705 :sebbu2!~sebbu@lfbn-dij-1-1065-70.w90-125.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1607288553 181772 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1607288576 402598 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1607288820 512534 :user24!~user24@2a02:810a:1440:7304:3dd3:a99a:ac8e:540f QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1607289082 151317 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1607289986 770951 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1607290393 488104 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1607291658 252962 :LKoen!~LKoen@73.174.9.109.rev.sfr.net QUIT :Quit: “It’s only logical. First you learn to talk, then you learn to think. Too bad it’s not the other way round.” < 1607292108 324051 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mostly as an excuse to use Altair outside the context of Google Colab: https://zem.fi/tmp/aoc/ < 1607292131 273842 :TheLie!~TheLie@2a02:8106:215:3300:7285:c2ff:fe0b:917f JOIN :#esoteric < 1607292555 376360 :Arcorann!~awych@159-196-65-46.9fc441.mel.nbn.aussiebb.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1607292609 940773 :Arcorann!~awych@159-196-65-46.9fc441.mel.nbn.aussiebb.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1607292635 384959 :Arcorann!~awych@159-196-65-46.9fc441.mel.nbn.aussiebb.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1607293179 785443 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1607294031 978393 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1607294238 769459 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1607295709 191417 :rain1!~My_user_n@unaffiliated/rain1 QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 2.9 < 1607297276 131352 :earend1!uid342703@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ctucyqucppeujcfc QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity