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< 1607390938 640768 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-135.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? pushmi-pullyu
< 1607390940 554039 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :pushmi-pullyu? ¯\(°_o)/¯
< 1607390947 840211 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-135.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? deque
< 1607390949 98330 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :deque? ¯\(°_o)/¯
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< 1607403373 261099 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: so many islands... 509 now, still missing a few dozen I think
< 1607403402 126579 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a lotta islands.
< 1607403568 215474 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they're getting harder to reach too
< 1607403592 924246 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and there's still a couple of mechanical surprises
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< 1607404084 795884 :LegionMammal978!181e4e3e@c-24-30-78-62.hsd1.ga.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This AoC was pretty fun (somehow, I managed to get #14 on the first leaderboard)
< 1607404199 214005 :LegionMammal978!181e4e3e@c-24-30-78-62.hsd1.ga.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Writing interpreters for BF-like languages (i.e., one character per instruction + simple memory model) was definitely good practice
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< 1607406442 35968 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :So what shall we call the new virtual machine... HGC for Handheld Game Controller?
< 1607406483 765981 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( It should have a 720x348 monochrome display. )
< 1607406813 812814 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would say that this AoC is quite well-ordered so far. It definitely has a basis.
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< 1607407614 767427 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I was looking for a particular island I was playing around on yesterday. I didn't find it :-/
< 1607407649 600302 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(though I got sidetracked a bit because I found other ideas while looking)
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< 1607416604 254143 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`grWp economics
< 1607416606 165512 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :economics:Economics is just applied numerology.
< 1607416650 873734 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Economics is the science of winning at zero-sum games. It used to be applied numerology.
< 1607416653 354460 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learned 'economic': Economics is the science of winning at zero-sum games. It used to be applied numerology.
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< 1607417688 486092 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a term in Magic: the Gathering that can refer to both players and objects, in general? They have some things in common, such as counters, possibility to be damaged (although only some objects can be damaged), possibility to be a target, and possibility for permanents to be attached to it.
> 1607418166 161686 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Firstreplace14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=79311 5* 03Abyxlrz 5* (+1163) 10Created page with "'''Firstreplace''' is an accidental1 [[esoteric programming language]] made by [[User:Abyxlrz|Abyxlrz]]. (1) It is accidental because i was trying to make a interp..."
> 1607418252 588511 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Firstreplace14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=79312&oldid=79311 5* 03Abyxlrz 5* (+82) 10
< 1607418268 184883 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, they changed the phrasing.
< 1607418297 609922 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :E.g. Shock used to say "target creature or player", and now it says "to any target".
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> 1607418394 308249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Language list14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=79313&oldid=79299 5* 03Abyxlrz 5* (+19) 10
< 1607418446 81358 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: '115.4. Some spells and abilities that refer to damage require “any target,” “another target,” “two targets,” or similar rather than “target [something].” These targets may be creatures, players, or planeswalkers. Other game objects, such as noncreature artifacts or spells, can’t be chosen.'
< 1607418476 937807 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :So the change allows planeswalkers to be targeted as well.
< 1607418488 115724 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure planeswalkers could already be targeted.
< 1607418502 465764 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, or maybe not.
< 1607418506 116183 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you say "creature or player" then planeswalkers are excluded.
< 1607418512 350851 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you targeted the player and redirected the damage or something?
< 1607418518 870920 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :There was definitely a way to damage planeswalkers.
> 1607418541 127405 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Abyxlrz14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=79314&oldid=78053 5* 03Abyxlrz 5* (+17) 10
< 1607418550 39056 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes: https://www.hipstersofthecoast.com/2018/03/goodbye-planeswalker-redirection-rule-mtg-dominaria/
> 1607418555 867706 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Abyxlrz14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=79315&oldid=79314 5* 03Abyxlrz 5* (+4) 10
< 1607418572 647060 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The Planeswalker redirection rule was implemented in Lorwyn with the introduction of the first Planeswalker cards. The rule states that you cannot directly target a Planeswalker with damage dealing spells—instead, you must target a player and then redirect the damage from that player to a Planeswalker they control."
< 1607418602 167792 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ow, that sounds awkware.
< 1607418613 587577 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It meant you could decide at resolution time instead of targeting time.
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< 1607418624 768378 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"awkware" is an akward spelling of "awkward".
< 1607418637 752979 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And also that the spell wouldn't fizzle if the planeswalker was gone at resolution time, I suppose.
< 1607418641 285542 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah apparently they got rid of that
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< 1607418664 64685 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it is a functional change, maybe slightly for the worse, but surely better for the game overall.
< 1607418672 568722 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I heard they even deprecated regenerate!
< 1607418710 98595 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe one day you'll be able to play Standard and not have to know a zillion obscure rules to play correctly.
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> 1607422992 610697 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Talk:Brainfuck14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=79320&oldid=74940 5* 03Bog'riquet De FerChef 5* (+205) 10/* Input\Output format */ new section
> 1607423910 14466 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Dotter14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=79321 5* 03Sertdfyguhi 5* (+1342) 10Created page with "'''Dotter''' is a stack-based esoteric language created by me in 2020. ==Commands== * ..............[ascii]: pushes ascii as a character to the end of the stack...."
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< 1607426683 174358 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does it mean something that there's a gap between 8 and 9 on the calendar page? I don't think that was there before.
< 1607426721 379223 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It might just mean that the pretty picture just didn't fit well to 25 lines, I guess.
< 1607427007 207168 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it *could* mean there's going to be 3 somehow distinct stages (3*8 = 24), plus a special 25th day thing as usual.
< 1607427209 534139 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, first instance of panic for my solutions this year. Last year had a bunch: http://ix.io/2H8M (theoretically contains a really minor spoiler about what the task of part 2 will be, in case you haven't done it yet)
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< 1607429957 655363 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: maybe we're speeding up as things go downhill
< 1607430349 113830 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also did another GraphViz graph for today's example, can't help myself: https://zem.fi/tmp/aoc/day08-ex.png (again, one aspect of that could be considered a bit spoilery for what part 2's question is)
< 1607431373 913593 :Arcorann_!~awych@159-196-65-46.9fc441.mel.nbn.aussiebb.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :downhill -> south
< 1607432050 486077 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arcorann_: we don't know where that island is yet
< 1607432100 960950 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh
< 1607432131 729890 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I see what you mean. My bad
< 1607432143 890090 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I saw a hill, never considered that the blue would be water.
< 1607432182 250277 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I agree. South it is, then.
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< 1607432293 446161 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unfortunately that deprives me of the reason why we would speed up.
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< 1607433703 15997 :Arcorann_!~awych@159-196-65-46.9fc441.mel.nbn.aussiebb.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it'd be because we got on a bigger plane
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< 1607434221 898992 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh I skipped the fluff today. "interrupted by the kid sitting next to you" ... I hate it when they do that.
< 1607434269 557108 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arcorann_: I wondered about that on day 6. "As your flight approaches the regional airport where you'll switch to a much larger plane --". The previous plane already had 1024 seats, and this one's "much larger"...
< 1607434272 365410 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I don't recall it ever happened to me, actually.)
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< 1607434329 325257 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: fun
< 1607434353 110036 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :But do we know what species we are? I imagine a lot of elves would fit on an A380.
< 1607434396 617587 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The passports had heights, I don't remember what my input's distribution was.
< 1607434416 240602 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh right.
< 1607434424 662895 :Arcorann_!~awych@159-196-65-46.9fc441.mel.nbn.aussiebb.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heights were basically normal human heights
< 1607434442 267396 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Well, we know the bounds for validity which were human-sized.
< 1607434453 167183 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :So there goes that theory.
< 1607434463 270310 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Weights too, unfortunately.
< 1607434474 968093 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :So much for that theory.
< 1607434510 298510 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :All the titles have so far been Alliterative Assortments too.
< 1607434518 919870 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe the new plane is just a large, flat surface.
< 1607434519 686754 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Couldn't come up with a synonym for "pair" starting with a.)
< 1607434570 217902 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I missed the titles too.
< 1607434603 278056 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :alternate... alternation... not quite, but it feels like there should be something
< 1607434639 431248 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, alliterative alternation does not sound completely wrong to me
< 1607434754 57036 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(only mostly wrong)
< 1607434910 14333 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( rote repetition )
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< 1607437241 740145 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-135.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :" […] The previous plane already had 1024 seats" => no, day 5 twist spec is quite clear that it has somewhat less than 1024 seats, but it indeed turns out to have about 900, so that's only a technical difference
< 1607437285 560178 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-135.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The passports had heights, I don't remember what my input's distribution was." => doesn't matter we have seen much less than the 900 passports, so there could be 300 humans and 600 kobolds on the plane
< 1607437316 567452 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-135.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the kobolds may be gated to a different security control area, with kobold-sized x-ray machine and kobold-height conveyor belt for the luggage
< 1607437392 82176 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-135.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: I think the phrase you want is "Added Alliterative Appeal", see TVTROPES WARNING https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AddedAlliterativeAppeal
< 1607437436 623882 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-135.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is it? I guess it's not, that's for a lot of alliteration in the text, it maybe be just https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AlliterativeTitle
< 1607437445 778978 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: That's cute, but we wanted a pair.
< 1607437467 937484 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Using something that *means* "pair"
< 1607437480 86947 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :And that seems to be out of reach, in English at least.
< 1607437500 613698 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Alliterative Appeal" is good though.
< 1607437582 173197 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-135.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Consonance Csomething?
< 1607437597 714654 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Couple?
< 1607437673 455940 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though I'd really want an adjective there, which would be "Consonant Couple" which makes it look like a noun. Oops.
< 1607437817 648725 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-135.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Coding contest consonance, or AOC alliteration
< 1607437898 119683 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, I got no reaction to https://esolangs.org/logs/2020-12-08.html#lM *sniff*
< 1607437943 738934 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-135.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :also some of you wanted an intcode
< 1607437951 292012 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-135.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you may have the first part of one
< 1607437968 406723 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I know.
< 1607437999 95249 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Next up: memory and IO.
< 1607438003 942347 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hope.
< 1607438037 503829 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe just a stack
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< 1607438075 182958 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :A PDA should be powerful enough for AoC. And it even looks similar to a HGC.
< 1607438090 105817 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, an HGC
< 1607438166 528749 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-135.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or Abuse of Alliteration
< 1607438178 625691 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-135.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or just Added Alliteration
< 1607438216 407752 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-135.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: a PDA, sure. a stack plus just one numeric register? no.
< 1607438231 582752 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-135.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :not unless you get extra registers or access the stack deep enough.
< 1607438313 802867 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-135.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok wait, I should solve the task first
< 1607438386 224452 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :A stack gives you PDA power... a bit more if the register is an unbounded integer. In fact if you have division with remainder you can maybe even simulate a stack in the register, completing a tape and making it TC? Depends on the details, I guess.
< 1607438440 615850 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also imagine there's a conditional jump around... otherwise things will be tricky.
< 1607438469 417182 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(so enough to implement any desired amount of finite control)
< 1607438691 899360 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess this TC idea hinges on being able to inspect the top stack element without modifying the accumulator, which can either be achieved by adding an additional register, or by adding an swapping operation for the two two stack elements
< 1607438732 345866 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or by specialized instructions that work on the top stack element instead of the accumulator... but that really feels like an extra register.
< 1607440537 961346 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh I may be wrong about needing a swap, it's really a question of the order of operands of `mod`. Consider `PUSH; PUSH; IMM 2; RMOD` which extracts the bottom bit of the accumulator if `RMOD` divides the top of the stack by the accumulator. So we can branch based on that value and then `POP` the accumulator.
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< 1607440620 102765 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`RDIV` can pop a bit off the accumulator-based stack. And `PUSH; ADD; ADD` can shift a bit from the stack into the accumulator.
< 1607440620 828804 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :RDIV`? No such file or directory
< 1607440634 841397 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah.
< 1607440648 149859 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Another thing to be wary of.)
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< 1607444577 936284 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-135.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, I admit I totally mispredicted what the thist would be for https://adventofcode.com/2020/day/8 , and my program suffered from that; it also suffered from a stupid unrelated bug though
< 1607444714 155031 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-135.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, so what do we call the interpreted language featured in this task? the task doesn't give a name like "Intcode" this time. do we just call it "Handheld halting" from the title of the task until they give a better name?
< 1607444758 503757 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-135.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or just "Handheld" because "halting" is the task, not the language?
< 1607445511 966170 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it need a language?
< 1607445520 537234 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm, a name
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< 1607445652 125368 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-135.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: it will, after a few more tasks, yes
< 1607445665 325848 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-135.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it perhaps doesn't need a short name yet, we could wait until the next task
< 1607445694 900570 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :currently it looks like a crappy assembler
< 1607445747 662845 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-135.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course it's possible that they'll throw this language away and a next task will instead be running programs in an unrelated language
< 1607445780 684928 :myname!~myname@ks300980.kimsufi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i propose aocembly
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< 1607448158 406167 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a feeling they'd've provided a hint if this was to become a running theme this year.
< 1607448383 179437 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(They did in day 2 part 2, 2019.)
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< 1607448654 100556 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm also wondering whether everyone just did the obvious O(n^2) part 2, that's basically just n times part 1, because it's definitely not asymptotically optimal, but on the other hand it's perfectly reasonable.
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< 1607449878 827856 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, this points out some cards actually get worse in a way that can matter, due to not having their text changed: https://www.reddit.com/r/PonzaMTG/comments/83502o/psa_new_planeswalker_redirection_rule_nerfs_some/
< 1607449892 756013 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-135.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: yes, I did the obvious quadratic, because there are only 617 instructions in the ROM
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< 1607449920 516797 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :So did I, though I'm tempted to add an alternative solution as well.
< 1607449999 947078 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :For example, treating black edges as weight 0 and red edges as weight 1, finding the shortest path in the https://zem.fi/tmp/aoc/day08-ex.png representation should give the solution in O(n log n) time.
< 1607450034 330510 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-135.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did skip rerunning the program for the 338 acc instrs though
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< 1607450261 310352 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-135.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I know there's a fast solution, yes.
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< 1607451166 80469 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are some regular languages that are very easy to express as NFAs but incredibly complicated as regular expressions. What's that about?
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< 1607451716 391158 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-135.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yes, we talked about them recently. search for http://www.madore.org/~david/weblog/d.2011-04-25.1871.html in the logs to find it. fizzie: I can't load the https://esolangs.org/logs , is it just me? 504 Gateway Time-out
< 1607451815 934402 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got that too.
< 1607451816 893381 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-135.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can load the wiki
< 1607451834 570472 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-135.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, good to know
< 1607451860 861732 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's something in the websocket support of the (C++) embedded web server serving the logs; either I'm using it wrong, or it has a bug.
< 1607451885 817392 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Every now and then it goes into this mode where it just stops responding, and some gdb'ing suggested it's related to the stalker mode websocket stuff.
< 1607451905 479998 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-135.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm
< 1607451950 443412 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can just restart it, that usually fixes it.
< 1607451966 853268 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep, should be back.
< 1607452010 794652 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The problem is, it never breaks when I wouldn't have anything better to do than debug it. (Also, I'd need to build a binary with symbols, because "something with websockets" was the closest I could get to by attaching gdb to the binary without them.)
< 1607452310 474260 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-135.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sad
< 1607452872 937024 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.228.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :played Heaven’s Vault a bit, looks interesting
< 1607452904 572267 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.228.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and also I played Snake Pass and my fingers are now broken (at least in my imagination)
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< 1607454129 262288 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.228.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kspalaiologos: hi, what’s new with that hyper-Malbolge of yours?
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< 1607456117 731956 :rain1!~My_user_n@unaffiliated/rain1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Snake Pass is awesome
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< 1607456669 98084 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.228.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rain1: did you use keyboard or a controller?
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< 1607456776 33246 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.228.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I totally liked how even in the first level there are coins to grab and I completely missed where they even are. I’ll probably try to find them the next time. On the second level, I grabbed one or two coins, I think, but missed one blobby thing though
< 1607456795 332341 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.228.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the sighs Noodle makes are the best
< 1607456912 625757 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't be missing blobby things.
< 1607456953 123497 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.228.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also I wonder if there is any help from a bought gecko in Heaven’s Vault. Would it come with Aliya and find something in some wall cracks or is it just a decoration now
< 1607456997 936492 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.228.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we traded two historical artifacts for it, that would be unfair
< 1607457022 119305 :rain1!~My_user_n@unaffiliated/rain1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :xbox
< 1607457104 934882 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.228.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rain1: ah, I’m on a keyboard (and mouse, it uses the left button to go and the right to grip), it’s probably harder though I hope I’ll train my hands after the several next playings
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< 1607457307 327083 :rain1!~My_user_n@unaffiliated/rain1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think you need an analog controller
< 1607457321 78543 :rain1!~My_user_n@unaffiliated/rain1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or at least it makes it better
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< 1607461549 737774 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.228.48 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rain1: yeah it should be more appropriate for that kind of a game
< 1607461608 444074 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks cute but too hard
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< 1607466245 337777 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't like the planeswalker redirection rule so I think is good they changed that. However, I don't like the wording "any target" because it uses different phrasing than other targets and makes it not sufficiently general. In my own custom cards I am using "target damageable"; such things as "enchant damageable" are also allowed, and for the purpose of text changing effects (such as overload), "any target" used in that way is treated
< 1607466359 807345 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is not quite an answer to my original question, though.
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