< 1610496799 142177 :Arcorann!~awych@159-196-65-46.9fc441.mel.nbn.aussiebb.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1610497204 389160 :Arcorann_!~awych@159-196-65-46.9fc441.mel.nbn.aussiebb.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1610497345 42644 :Arcorann!~awych@159-196-65-46.9fc441.mel.nbn.aussiebb.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1610497524 128931 :rain1!~My_user_n@unaffiliated/rain1 QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 3.0 < 1610498893 533332 :Arcorann__!~awych@159-196-65-46.9fc441.mel.nbn.aussiebb.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1610499056 402855 :Arcorann_!~awych@159-196-65-46.9fc441.mel.nbn.aussiebb.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1610499350 770105 :arseniiv_!~arseniiv@145.255.10.228 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1610499973 529770 :Arcorann__!~awych@159-196-65-46.9fc441.mel.nbn.aussiebb.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1610500759 335901 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1610501428 895132 :Arcorann!~awych@159-196-65-46.9fc441.mel.nbn.aussiebb.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1610501601 441654 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does any programming language have a operator which works like addition, bitwise OR, or bitwise XOR, but with an undefined result if the operands share any bit positions set? < 1610501741 493478 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that i'm aware < 1610501796 651802 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :but there is the tristate logic of digital electronics, where 0+Z = 0+0 = 0, 1+Z = 1+1 = 1, and 0+1 = undefined < 1610501800 637066 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :and Z+Z = Z < 1610501854 629690 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Well, most languages have three such operators, right? < 1610501912 481327 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode JOIN :#esoteric < 1610501930 529398 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Yes, but not an operator that does all three (although if none of the set bit positions are shared, those three operations are equivalent) < 1610502026 735703 :mmmattyx!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tzsvjcfzpzlemwdx QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1610502045 812537 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and you can even define "weak" versions of 0 and 1 which override Z but can be overridden by the strong version of either bit) < 1610502113 278753 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :and weak 0 + weak 1 = undefined, but what about (weak 0 + weak 1) + strong 0? < 1610502121 73215 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think in the usual CMOS implementation of logic that would be a defined 0 < 1610502130 278167 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that means that algebraically you need "weak undefined" too < 1610502193 196094 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :and obviously the weak/strong thing breaks down at some point < 1610502230 191232 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you have enough different pins driving the same net as "weak 0" then a strong 1 might get it only to undefined or even leave it reading 0 < 1610502321 253693 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :the usual solution to that is the open-collector or open-drain bus, wherein you have a single device driving "weak 1" (a pull-up resistor) and the other devices are either strong 0 or Z < 1610502524 672671 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have never seen cases of multiple weak driving the same net at once except in cases where they are all weak (and all the same way 0 or 1), unless I misremembered, or if I missed something. In what I have seen, it is like what you describe, only one weak, the others are strong or Z. < 1610502969 658803 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :I learned the other day that there are "active pull-up" chips like LTC4311 which will feed the bus with extra current while it's rising, and then shut off when it reaches the high voltage so it can be pulled down again < 1610503010 882144 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :thus allowing higher speeds for a given level of bus capacitance < 1610514009 480100 :Lymee!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe JOIN :#esoteric < 1610514079 164552 :Lymia!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1610514079 354299 :Lymee!lymia@magical.girl.lyrical.lymia.moe NICK :Lymia < 1610516731 506368 :sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1610517271 371029 :diverger!~div@45.87.213.214 JOIN :#esoteric < 1610517306 154509 :adu!~arobbins@c-76-111-99-194.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1610519499 55541 :adu!~arobbins@c-76-111-99-194.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1610519977 574269 :aloril!~aloril@mobile-access-5d6a86-144.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1610520245 808336 :aloril!~aloril@mobile-access-5d6a86-144.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1610521394 925313 :MDude!~MDude@71.50.47.112 QUIT :Quit: Going offline, see ya! 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PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Language list14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=79966&oldid=79948 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+12) 10/* A */ Add [[Arsel]] < 1610565932 523690 :mmmattyx!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xamyedegeiljgbot JOIN :#esoteric < 1610576652 716528 :xelxebar!~xelxebar@gateway/tor-sasl/xelxebar JOIN :#esoteric < 1610576683 721073 :xelxebar_!~xelxebar@gateway/tor-sasl/xelxebar QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1610577386 4518 :kkkff!ac686138@172.104.97.56 JOIN :#esoteric < 1610579291 578810 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there any .NSF music player which will use two separate filter programs (operating using stdin/stdout), one which converts the NSF to the (infinite) register stream, and one which converts the register stream to the (also infinite) audio stream? < 1610580114 986085 :Arcorann!~awych@159-196-65-46.9fc441.mel.nbn.aussiebb.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1610580182 281513 :kkkff!ac686138@172.104.97.56 QUIT 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First you learn to talk, then you learn to think. Too bad it’s not the other way round.” < 1610581297 483244 :arseniiv_!~arseniiv@145.255.10.228 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds