< 1615507495 391221 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT : < 1615510167 623022 :S_Gautam!uid286066@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-uvkylstrnvhufpuc QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity > 1615514092 437964 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User talk:Trump Bot14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81283&oldid=81226 5* 03Trump Bot 5* (+23) 10 < 1615514734 157094 :dcristofani!~dcristofa@69-71-183-170.mammothnetworks.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1615517194 893762 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 JOIN :#esoteric < 1615517303 807772 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1615517303 953562 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 NICK :Lord_of_Life < 1615521043 644426 :arseniiv_!~arseniiv@94.41.226.89.dynamic.ufanet.ru JOIN :#esoteric < 1615525607 40248 :craigo!~craigo@144.136.206.168 JOIN :#esoteric > 1615525694 609132 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Esolang:Community portal14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81284&oldid=81252 5* 03ColorfulGalaxy 5* (+315) 10Added LifeWiki forum links. Not sure if useful. > 1615529307 806503 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Strucked14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=81285 5* 031hals 5* (+1541) 10create page > 1615529483 848872 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Strucked14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81286&oldid=81285 5* 031hals 5* (+254) 10add math to examples and explain more < 1615529608 785764 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b98aa4.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer > 1615529672 558233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Strucked14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81287&oldid=81286 5* 031hals 5* (+37) 10add WIP note > 1615529825 87723 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Strucked14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81288&oldid=81287 5* 031hals 5* (+20) 10 > 1615530221 659848 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Strucked14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81289&oldid=81288 5* 031hals 5* (+18) 10+2021 < 1615539078 909041 :sprock!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1615540166 742144 :hendursa1!~weechat@gateway/tor-sasl/hendursaga JOIN :#esoteric < 1615540279 977514 :hendursaga!~weechat@gateway/tor-sasl/hendursaga QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1615542574 457556 :LKoen!~LKoen@185.61.176.203 JOIN :#esoteric < 1615544892 473777 :dcristofani!~dcristofa@69-71-183-170.mammothnetworks.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1615546747 933169 :LKoen!~LKoen@185.61.176.203 QUIT :Quit: “It’s only logical. First you learn to talk, then you learn to think. Too bad it’s not the other way round.” > 1615548979 436247 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:Gilbert18914]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81290&oldid=80608 5* 03Gilbert189 5* (+21) 10 > 1615551296 99107 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Joke language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81291&oldid=81046 5* 03Gilbert189 5* (+59) 10/* General languages */ < 1615553505 436269 :dcristofani!~dcristofa@69-71-183-170.mammothnetworks.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1615557201 495887 :dcristofani!~dcristofa@69-71-183-170.mammothnetworks.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1615558245 558373 :dcristofani!~dcristofa@69-71-183-170.mammothnetworks.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1615558749 534257 :dcristofani!~dcristofa@69-71-183-170.mammothnetworks.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1615560158 894894 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Website https://esolangs.org/ security certificate expires soon (2.231561476999998e+06 seconds)." < 1615560161 897410 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the formatting of my alerts leaves a little to be desired, but at least it told me. (It's supposed to renew via cron, but I guess it's broken again.) < 1615560371 865055 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wonder what's up with that. It isn't the thing that was wrong once before, which was mixing up the minute/hour fields of crontab and trying to run it on the 37th hour of the day. < 1615561481 769432 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"expires soon (2.231561476999998e+06 seconds)." -- reminded me the old sub /r/totallynotrobots < 1615561507 253107 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't fix it < 1615561876 449723 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b98aa4.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1615563169 366842 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 2.23e6/86400 < 1615563171 673805 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esoteric : 25.810185185185187 < 1615565314 995895 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I set it to start complaining at 30d and have been ignoring it for a few days already. < 1615565333 393029 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The script itself succeeded again, for some reason cron's just not running it. < 1615565498 780687 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It's one of those normal Let's Encrypt 3-month certificates, and I set up my own scripts because certbot was kind of rudimentary at the time, so instead of the "run often and renew only when less than a month left" model I've got a "force-renew once a month model". Or would have it cron would behave. It works on all other machines, weird.) < 1615566485 570158 :delta23!~deltaepsi@unaffiliated/deltaepsilon23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1615566579 521516 :NeverBorn!~NeverBorn@151.61.77.19 JOIN :#esoteric < 1615567494 744401 :NeverBorn!~NeverBorn@151.61.77.19 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1615569120 283713 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I see... I have one certbot setup and one script around acme-tiny, but with working cron. < 1615569145 21259 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the acme-tiny thing came first) < 1615569317 579371 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, well. `journalctl -u cron` says "Logs begin at Mon 2021-03-08", and it's supposed to run on every 7th day of the month, so I guess I won't see if something went wrong there. It's running the other /etc/cron.d/ files just fine. Weird. < 1615569404 211705 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The cron.d file just says "1 2 7 * * letsencrypt /var/local/letsencrypt/letsencrypt-cron.sh" and doing "sudo -u letsencrypt /var/local/letsencrypt/letsencrypt-cron.sh" successfully renews the certificates. < 1615569446 72629 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm but the environment may be different, including $PATH < 1615569458 472672 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then you should get mails? < 1615569470 745766 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. Unless there's something wrong with mail delivery from this system. < 1615569593 821261 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I've gotten other emails from the system, so it would be specifically cron that's not sending mail right. < 1615569610 568178 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or does the letsencrypt user get those mails? < 1615569664 856828 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :which would be stupid... but somewtimes things are stupid < 1615569692 854582 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, maybe? I thought I had all role accounts aliased to root and then to me, but that one isn't. < 1615569708 231493 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, you might have got it. < 1615569737 280551 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Checking an earlier cron email from a different system, it's indeed "To: letsencrypt@.zem.fi". < 1615569807 264344 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, that user has 26 emails from cron. < 1615569809 125388 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Thanks.) < 1615569875 210822 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh, and all those emails say it successfully renewed... oh, wait a minute, maybe it's renewing the cert but failing to reload the web server, because it's missing a sudoers rule to allow it to do that. < 1615570161 217038 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, I seem to have two stages... one to get a new certificate, and one that runs as root, copies nthe certificates, and restarts the webserver < 1615570378 830633 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :not the cleanest approach < 1615571947 698856 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Quit: Quittin'. < 1615572040 576119 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1615572866 55560 :xelxebar_!~xelxebar@gateway/tor-sasl/xelxebar JOIN :#esoteric < 1615572950 982470 :xelxebar!~xelxebar@gateway/tor-sasl/xelxebar QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1615573617 643189 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :What I ended up with is, the whole thing runs as 'letsencrypt', there's POSIX filesystem ACLs that allow it to write to the specific cert files in /etc/ssl/letsencrypt/... and sudoers.d rules that allow it to run the specific reload commands. < 1615573721 531134 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1615573949 579260 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1615575080 314339 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1615576325 884413 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1615576465 752403 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b98aa4.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why was I convinced that PL/I was a database thing? < 1615576493 108108 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b98aa4.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh PL/SQL. Names too similar < 1615576749 139471 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b98aa4.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :". The PDP-7, however, did have a few `auto-increment' memory cells, with the property that an indirect memory reference through them incremented the cell. " < 1615576752 967022 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b98aa4.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :??? what. Weird. < 1615576860 968220 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no less weird than Intel's movs/cmps/scas < 1615576968 300489 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1615576969 40815 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh, I mean "no more", don't I :P < 1615577369 542724 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1615577795 637067 :myname!~myname@2001:41d0:1:766f::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :auto-increment registers are nice < 1615579263 322546 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But of course auto-increment registers with a circular buffer modulo support are extra-nice, and bit-reversed auto-increment registers are the nicest. < 1615579287 813641 :kmc!~beehive@unaffiliated/kmcallister PRIVMSG #esoteric :bit-reversed? < 1615579383 461918 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :DSPs (or at least some; I know the TMS320C54x does) have this thing where you can increment an address register and it'll do the carry bit the wrong way around. < 1615579390 240486 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's to save instructions when doing a FFT. < 1615579415 6409 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, FFT was my guess < 1615579438 768190 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'll need normal autoincrement registers as well < 1615579442 156814 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1615579532 525960 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It does those as well, of course. And for the bit-reversed mode, you'll need to dedicate AR0 (out of the 8 address registers, AR0..AR7) to holding a bitmask that defines the size of the FFT. < 1615579567 345390 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :makes sense < 1615579622 913346 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've only used a DSP for one tiny university project, and didn't get to use the bit-reversed addressing mode, but at least I got to use the circular buffer one. < 1615579978 84422 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have this old one-instruction language with a memory of words where the instruction is like m[2] = 0 <= (m[m[m[0]++]] -= m[m[m[0]++]]); (but with less undefined behavior from modifying the same cell twice in a statement), only I only ever wrote one small program for it, and that one is buggy. so this has not only the program counter memory-mapped to m[0] but also a comparison flag mapped to m[2] < 1615580002 941118 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the comparison flag has the value of 0 and 1 so that you can conveniently use it as a conditional goto, or an unconditional goto after you zero a cell < 1615580033 308951 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-254.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(there's also some IO mapped to memory) < 1615580157 851162 :sprock!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1615581613 642039 :arseniiv_!~arseniiv@94.41.226.89.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was displeased with Thue—Morse sequence and invented my own < 1615581629 972380 :arseniiv_!~arseniiv@94.41.226.89.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :it starts 01000111111010111110010000011001111001000001111000010110000101100110010000011110000101100001010100010110000100010001110100011100… < 1615581724 183799 :arseniiv_!~arseniiv@94.41.226.89.dynamic.ufanet.ru NICK :arseniiv < 1615581923 332397 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.226.89.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :the rule is not too complicated: S(0) = 0, S(n+1) = S(n) ++ ((S(n) + 1) | (S(n) cshr 1)), where + is addition modulo 2^|S(n)| (it shouldn’t overflow when starting with S(0) = 0, though!), | is bitwise or and cshr is cyclical right shift < 1615581974 885323 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.226.89.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried simpler rules but they give repeat-ish sequences, which is what I was displeased about the original one < 1615582084 478248 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shouldn't that start as... 0,01,0110 < 1615582126 515608 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you used xor where you wrote or < 1615582138 979074 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.226.89.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep, xor, my bad < 1615582196 367521 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it indeed cannot overflow becaus S(n) always starts with 0. < 1615582211 906578 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.226.89.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :my design was that if I take & or |, 0s or 1s will overgrow the sequence further to the right < 1615582269 944847 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.226.89.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep, though I think it’d be good to look at S(0) = 1 and other strings, also I need to take that and fetch it to some statistical tests to know how it looks overall < 1615582289 335914 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.226.89.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not right now < 1615582303 812145 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't like it... the +1 has very limited effect < 1615582356 569335 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.226.89.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn’t come up with anything better and simply calculated in a couple of minutes < 1615582404 50146 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.226.89.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :any suggestions! We need more jointly named made-up sequences! < 1615582446 950636 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.226.89.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :I daresay, seqυentions < 1615582544 293159 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.226.89.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :(υ was picked as a sorta middle ground between v and u) < 1615582834 274414 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :S(0) = 1 hmm. 1 1 11 1111.... < 1615582851 391139 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks boring ;) < 1615582905 516797 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.226.89.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :ow I didn’t expect < 1615582961 545957 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.226.89.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep, (all units + 1) is all zeros, and all units shifted is all units, so xor is all units again. Ow ow < 1615583053 361371 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.226.89.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: how do you thing, is there a place to concatenate two sequences of differing lengths? What could we do to them to make lengths different (in the general case)? < 1615583095 646503 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.226.89.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :one might skip particular subsequences but that’s too picky and expensive to compute < 1615583135 521224 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.226.89.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :(when using ordinary unbounded integers for sequences) > 1615583260 766945 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Horribly Translated BASIC14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81292&oldid=80606 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+30) 10/* New keywords */ cats < 1615583519 15800 :craigo!~craigo@144.136.206.168 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1615583579 146580 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :arseniiv: sorry I can't get excited about this < 1615583722 156234 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.226.89.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: ah no problem at all < 1615583746 835202 :S_Gautam!uid286066@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-uvbhgrfavpsfsotk JOIN :#esoteric < 1615583992 719536 :Brainz!~Brainz@209.127.191.180 JOIN :#esoteric < 1615584193 716144 :Brainz!~Brainz@209.127.191.180 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1615584210 573637 :Brainz!~Brainz@209.127.191.180 JOIN :#esoteric < 1615584268 999201 :Brainz!~Brainz@209.127.191.180 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1615584282 613205 :Brainz!~Brainz@209.127.191.180 JOIN :#esoteric < 1615584319 358076 :Brainz!~Brainz@209.127.191.180 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1615584340 522331 :Brainz!~Brainz@209.127.191.180 JOIN :#esoteric < 1615588529 525041 :NeverBorn!~NeverBorn@151.61.77.19 JOIN :#esoteric < 1615588717 640227 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.226.89.dynamic.ufanet.ru QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds > 1615588865 194499 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Pain14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81293&oldid=81103 5* 03RetroPain 5* (+7) 10/* Simple Pain Instuctions */ > 1615589342 941063 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Pain14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81294&oldid=81293 5* 03RetroPain 5* (+139) 10/* List of Instuctions */ > 1615589367 168989 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Pain14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81295&oldid=81294 5* 03RetroPain 5* (+2) 10/* List of Instuctions */ < 1615590132 874829 :Brainz!~Brainz@209.127.191.180 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1615591286 693989 :Brainz!~Brainz@209.127.191.180 JOIN :#esoteric < 1615592107 947084 :NeverBorn!~NeverBorn@151.61.77.19 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection