00:00:13 (I currently do not have HTTPS set up on my server. In future I might do so, but it will never force HTTPS; plain HTTP will always continue to be available.) 00:01:48 My site is HTTP and HTTPS enabled to satisfy everyone. The only reason GOOG is pushing HTTPS is because they got mad Verizon was injecting ads into their search pages (that's what they claim, but something else happened) 00:01:51 [[Talk:Dig]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81519&oldid=80802 * Emerald * (+88) /* Second truth machine (but it won't work) */ 00:02:40 I would wholeheartly support a security protocol that doesn't rely on a centralized source and will work without the standards constantly changing 00:02:56 HTTPS tried to kill two birds with one stone; and that is its biggest downfall 00:03:54 Also, I think that not everything needs to be a web application (although they can be provided as an alternative in some cases). 00:15:39 yes 00:15:47 instead of web application what would it be 00:17:35 Well, depending on what you are doing, it might be a local program, a command-line program, service accessed by curl, static HTML document, Gopher or Gemini, telnet/SSH, VM code, NNTP, IRC, etc. 00:21:01 that's true. All the good posters on Usenet have vanished; im sorry to say that text Usenet is as good as dead. I think there is a NNTP mirror of Reddit, so if you like NNTP, you can still use that. 00:21:35 What are your thoughts on Discord 00:22:10 I don't use Discord. I like IRC. 00:22:45 Usenet is still used a bit, althougn not much. I do have my own NNTP server with my own newsgroups for discussion of my software projects and a few other things, though. 00:26:11 Alot of gaming projects are on Discord. There seemed to be more activity last year than there was this year 00:26:26 Someone should make a Discord-IRC Bridge for the best discord guilds 00:26:39 The second sentence in the first chat was regarding usenet 00:28:05 OK, maybe they will, we will see 00:28:46 Are there any Discord guilds that you would join in a discord-irc/gemini bridge? 00:29:00 The esolangs discord seems like a good start 00:29:04 What are your thoughts on Matrix? 00:30:14 Matrix is better than Discord due to more openness, although it is still too complicated and lacks many of the benefits of IRC. 00:30:34 (Also, HTTP(S) is just not a good protocol for real time chat, anyways.) 00:33:13 HTTP is good for logs for chat. What does IRC have that Matrix doesnt? 00:33:33 Yes, HTTP is good for serving the logs, but not for the chat itself. 00:34:35 One thing that IRC has is its simplicity that does not require any specialized software to use (although specialized software is still very helpful, it can be used, and I have used it, without specialized software). 00:38:45 hwo long have you been using irc 00:41:49 IRC has history. 00:42:11 I don't remember, but it has been many years. 00:42:35 the zzo38 nick was registered in 2009, so that's a lower bound 00:42:41 I wrote the IRC client I am using now, although I used it (without any software) even before then. 00:43:03 (But I imagine it has been much longer.) 00:44:33 The logs I downloaded indicate zzo38 has been in "ops" since 2001ish 00:44:37 ever since the channel started 00:46:38 Freenode/OPN is a young upstart among the IRC networks :P. 00:47:54 [[Deadfish]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81520&oldid=81462 * Digital Hunter * (-105) /* Parse this sic */ cleaner 00:48:31 This channel started on... hmm, was it EFnet? For something like a day, before moving to Freenode. 00:49:07 I was born after 2001, but that's the only hint you'll get about my age 00:49:16 > I propose OPN (irc.freenode.net) other than EFnet, because for one, OPN is a much better network overall, ;) and there're simply more people on OPN who're actually interested in this kind of thing. 00:49:18 :1:50: error: :1:50: error: parse error on input ‘,’ 00:49:26 I don't know if that's true, but it got believed, so it might as well be. 00:50:45 Judging from https://netsplit.de/networks/top10.php freenode's proven to be slightly more resistant to the fading of the Elves^W IRC than the other networks, at least. 00:53:48 Drew Devault working on new programming language. 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First you learn to talk, then you learn to think. Too bad it’s not the other way round.”). 10:47:24 don't you love it when there's software documentation clearly formatted to be readable in a browser, rather than as a printed book, and it says something like "described elsewhere in this documentation" without a hyperlink? 10:48:18 nakilon: I'm certainly not into that sort of thing, I just sometimes add links to the wiki about potentially interesting esoteric stuff so it's easier to find later 11:05:09 -!- LKoen has joined. 11:06:15 -!- xelxebar has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds). 11:06:16 -!- xelxebar_ has joined. 11:08:40 -!- arseniiv has joined. 11:25:48 -!- verdecchia[m] has left ("User left"). 11:25:49 -!- Montse has joined. 11:55:09 -!- LKoen has quit (Quit: “It’s only logical. First you learn to talk, then you learn to think. Too bad it’s not the other way round.”). 12:12:44 -!- Ioanai7 has joined. 12:13:34 Best Browser Ever! Mine Your Own BitCoin While You Surffing The Web! https://cryptotabbrowser.com/16879401 12:23:27 lol 12:24:19 or if you want to, just mine them without a browser with a ponzi scheme 12:24:52 show me how :) 12:25:34 google "how to mine bitcoin", follow the first result that is not an obvious scam 12:25:46 also, bitcoin sucks 12:39:52 -!- LKoen has joined. 12:42:22 -!- LKoen has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 13:46:51 -!- LKoen has joined. 13:53:06 -!- Ioanai7 has quit (K-Lined). 13:56:18 -!- Sgeo has joined. 14:47:42 -!- Montse has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 15:00:14 -!- LKoen has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 15:44:35 -!- hakatashi has joined. 15:54:57 -!- arcsor5 has joined. 16:23:28 -!- spiegelau has joined. 16:25:20 -!- spiegelau has quit (Client Quit). 16:26:24 -!- ArthurStrong has joined. 16:42:40 -!- captaintofuburge has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 16:42:53 -!- stfb has joined. 16:44:37 -!- LKoen has joined. 16:59:09 -!- delta23 has joined. 17:00:44 lol 17:01:34 -!- Cale has joined. 17:01:57 you can't profitably mine bitcoin with anything short of dedicated hardware 17:02:00 that has been the case for years 17:02:18 can i have 1 bitcoin please 17:02:37 sure, give me 20k$ 17:05:53 -!- ArthurStrong has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 17:24:02 did you know that (1 + 1.11 ⋅ 10⁻¹⁶) BTC = 1 BTC 17:25:20 oh damn I should have used simply 10⁻¹⁶, that’d be both crispier and more correct wrt double precision 17:48:38 [[User:Dbtx]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81522&oldid=81511 * Dbtx * (-8) 17:49:26 lol floats 17:49:55 i was looking at some 3D printer G-code and it had this line 17:49:58 G1 X113.778 Y85.60300000000001 E0.1142 17:50:38 that extra 0.01 femtometers makes all the difference lol 17:52:06 [[User:Dbtx]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81523&oldid=81522 * Dbtx * (-533) 17:54:29 They added that 0.00000000000001 to account for tolerances. 17:56:19 obviously 18:38:37 [[User:Dbtx]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81524&oldid=81523 * Dbtx * (+985) Undo revision 81523 by [[Special:Contributions/Dbtx|Dbtx]] ([[User talk:Dbtx|talk]]) 19:02:35 -!- xelxebar_ has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 19:03:00 -!- xelxebar has joined. 19:08:27 -!- xelxebar has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 19:08:47 -!- xelxebar has joined. 19:23:48 -!- Remavas has joined. 19:24:07 -!- Remavas has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 19:35:40 -!- Lord_of_Life_ has joined. 19:38:16 -!- Lord_of_Life has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 19:38:39 -!- Lord_of_Life_ has changed nick to Lord_of_Life. 19:57:55 -!- ArthurStrong has joined. 20:26:27 -!- delta23 has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 20:27:19 -!- delta23 has joined. 20:30:55 -!- LKoen has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 20:33:11 -!- LKoen has joined. 20:45:12 -!- delta23 has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 21:37:44 [[2020]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81525&oldid=81506 * EnilKoder * (+733) added bit shift and rotate, started arrays 21:38:29 [[StupidBASIC]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=81526 * Not applicable * (+7008) Created page 21:40:36 [[StupidBASIC]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81527&oldid=81526 * Not applicable * (+17) screwed up categories again lol 21:42:09 [[StupidBASIC]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81528&oldid=81527 * Not applicable * (+0) AGAIN 21:42:32 -!- delta23 has joined. 21:52:52 [[Category:Stupid family]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=81529 * Not applicable * (+365) Create category page 21:54:04 [[Stupidc]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81530&oldid=81210 * Not applicable * (+28) Add stupidc family 21:56:27 [[Category:Stupid family]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81531&oldid=81529 * Not applicable * (+14) {{Lowercase}} 21:56:44 [[StupidBASIC]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81532&oldid=81528 * Not applicable * (+77) huh 21:57:48 [[Stupidc]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81533&oldid=81530 * Not applicable * (-1) stupid family not stupidc family 22:01:46 [[Parse this sic/Numbers]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81534&oldid=80223 * Digital Hunter * (+25) 22:04:13 -!- ArthurStrong has quit (Quit: leaving). 22:06:08 [[Hello world program in esoteric languages]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81535&oldid=81371 * Not applicable * (+73) add stupidBASIC 22:07:47 -!- Lord_of_Life has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds). 22:24:09 -!- zseri has joined. 22:45:53 [[User:Not applicable]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81536&oldid=81168 * Not applicable * (+572) 23:06:07 -!- delta23 has quit (Quit: Leaving). 23:20:57 -!- LKoen has quit (Quit: “It’s only logical. 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