< 1617235571 786737 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.4.124.dynamic.ufanet.ru QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1617236677 505185 :arcsor5!~textual@185.240.244.141 JOIN :#esoteric < 1617236752 160306 :arcsor5!~textual@185.240.244.141 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am back < 1617236786 479808 :NotApplicable!~NotApplic@2600:1702:3680:7560:d88a:212:fdd6:bbee PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just got back too < 1617236799 481128 :NotApplicable!~NotApplic@2600:1702:3680:7560:d88a:212:fdd6:bbee PRIVMSG #esoteric :did i miss anything < 1617236822 827867 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1617237071 739618 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1617239446 746038 :NotApplicable!~NotApplic@2600:1702:3680:7560:d88a:212:fdd6:bbee QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1617239652 590864 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1617239857 587061 :tromp_!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1617239910 206379 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1617240017 758602 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1617240151 955106 :tromp_!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1617240330 296332 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1617240337 172838 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1617240609 63485 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds > 1617240990 972144 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07202014]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81718&oldid=81711 5* 03EnilKoder 5* (+225) 10added comment for unimplemented ideas > 1617242255 917962 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03ColorfulGalaxy (disambiguation) 5* 10New user account < 1617242293 300454 :arcsor5!~textual@185.240.244.141 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ < 1617242296 781608 :arcsor5!~textual@185.240.244.141 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops wrong place < 1617242300 367975 :arcsor5!~textual@185.240.244.141 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nvm > 1617242522 795975 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81719&oldid=81671 5* 03ColorfulGalaxy (disambiguation) 5* (+254) 10 < 1617242541 980741 :delta23!~deltaepsi@unaffiliated/deltaepsilon23 QUIT :Quit: zzzzz > 1617242908 608691 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:ColorfulGalaxy14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81720&oldid=81467 5* 03ColorfulGalaxy (disambiguation) 5* (+91) 10Fixed a broken link in the "Contact him" section < 1617243597 863028 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1617243986 774810 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1617244402 825938 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1617244661 796334 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds > 1617245455 274121 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07NoComment14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81721&oldid=79111 5* 03CaptainFoxtrot 5* (+97) 10 > 1617245473 132095 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07NoComment14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81722&oldid=81721 5* 03CaptainFoxtrot 5* (+0) 10 > 1617246662 531312 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Grain14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81723&oldid=81717 5* 03Grom 5* (+195) 10 > 1617246683 581351 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Grain14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81724&oldid=81723 5* 03Grom 5* (+1) 10 > 1617246857 54025 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Grain14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81725&oldid=81724 5* 03Grom 5* (+1) 10/* Properties of the Master Function */ < 1617247647 795033 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1617247901 836271 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1617248362 588267 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN :#esoteric > 1617248539 524863 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Grain14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81726&oldid=81725 5* 03Grom 5* (+108) 10 < 1617248652 599291 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1617248652 804548 :arcsor5!~textual@185.240.244.141 QUIT :Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1617249068 109462 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1617249378 95714 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds > 1617250513 821015 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Grain14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81727&oldid=81726 5* 03Grom 5* (+378) 10 < 1617252338 7671 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1617252621 988617 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1617254675 181124 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1617254796 208049 :tromp_!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1617254796 472491 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1617254887 562123 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1617254890 568374 :tromp_!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1617254948 614527 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1617255062 786328 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1617255229 851419 :tromp_!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1617255274 468306 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1617255551 771316 :tromp_!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1617257169 819327 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1617257420 838506 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1617257852 562205 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1617258135 569612 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1617258997 549513 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1617259424 707847 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18b98aa4.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1617261290 164997 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 JOIN :#esoteric < 1617263197 99842 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :annual 1 April AM contest starts in 6 hours https://codeforces.com/contests/1505 < 1617263227 98217 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm lazy to participate there but it's usually in esoteric languages so you might be interested < 1617263252 466297 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :*ACM < 1617263987 112130 :s0kx!~s0kx@tilde.town JOIN :#esoteric < 1617264412 147735 :LKoen!~LKoen@65.250.88.92.rev.sfr.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1617264418 793813 :hendursa1!~weechat@gateway/tor-sasl/hendursaga JOIN :#esoteric < 1617264573 772073 :hendursaga!~weechat@gateway/tor-sasl/hendursaga QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1617270049 577479 :LKoen!~LKoen@65.250.88.92.rev.sfr.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1617273711 554926 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.4.124.dynamic.ufanet.ru JOIN :#esoteric < 1617274067 584191 :NeverBorn!~NeverBorn@93-41-17-168.ip79.fastwebnet.it JOIN :#esoteric < 1617274442 812554 :LKoen!~LKoen@65.250.88.92.rev.sfr.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1617275231 614886 :LKoen!~LKoen@65.250.88.92.rev.sfr.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1617275565 874398 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and SIGBOVIK 2021 conference starts in less than a day, with online video stream: http://sigbovik.org/2021/ < 1617276110 542959 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, I would have missed it. It might not even be a ridiculous time to catch live. < 1617280799 217588 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's early in the morning I think... let me check < 1617280876 668461 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah no, it says "Starting at 6pm EDT on April 1, 2021", that's 2021-04-01 22:00Z < 1617280892 546200 :LKoen!~LKoen@65.250.88.92.rev.sfr.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1617280895 678040 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought it said "6pm PDT" for some reason < 1617281172 296286 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.4.124.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, new SIGBOVIK! As if the previous was yesterday, time flies like an arrow < 1617281193 532941 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.4.124.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn covid < 1617281248 43107 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.4.124.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, 22:00Z is pretty late for me to watch videos < 1617281288 573820 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.4.124.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :though anyway I mostly read the paper sum < 1617281420 176539 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.4.124.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thank b_jonas < 1617281422 684742 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank? No such file or directory < 1617281433 194923 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.4.124.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks b_jonas < 1617281434 124701 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, b_jonas. Thonas. < 1617281449 392180 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.4.124.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :never gets old < 1617281855 199958 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can watch the video on the next day > 1617285229 599890 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Grain14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81728&oldid=81727 5* 03Grom 5* (+129) 10 > 1617285278 442277 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Grain14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81729&oldid=81728 5* 03Grom 5* (-8) 10/* Evidence of viability */ > 1617285627 290191 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Grain14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81730&oldid=81729 5* 03Grom 5* (+9) 10/* Evidence of viability */ > 1617285946 885715 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Grain14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81731&oldid=81730 5* 03Grom 5* (+2) 10/* Formal Definition of and */ > 1617285957 566736 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Grain14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81732&oldid=81731 5* 03Grom 5* (-1) 10/* Formal Definition of and */ > 1617286102 98324 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Grain14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81733&oldid=81732 5* 03Grom 5* (+22) 10/* Formal Definition of and */ < 1617286292 924742 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :finally Ruby code goes vertical like Befunge: https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/17768 < 1617286443 844826 :myname!~myname@2001:41d0:1:766f::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tbh i like the basic idea < 1617286476 295099 :myname!~myname@2001:41d0:1:766f::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, maybe not that exact syntax, but that would make mass assigns and similar more readable < 1617286575 435005 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: when will this tiresome day be over? < 1617286575 668001 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: " erik. on c, for example, it's true that in scheme > 1617286611 850302 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Grain14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81734&oldid=81733 5* 03Grom 5* (+202) 10/* Formal Definition of and */ < 1617287031 157885 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should make that filter more permissive. < 1617287059 106707 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nothing wrong with /* Formal Definition of 𝕄 and 𝔾 */ at least for this channel, we're very UTF-8 friendly. > 1617287417 738273 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Grain14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81735&oldid=81734 5* 03Grom 5* (+174) 10 > 1617287429 158616 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Grain14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81736&oldid=81735 5* 03Grom 5* (+1) 10/* Evidence of viability */ < 1617287909 207909 :mniip!mniip@freenode/staff/mniip QUIT :Ping timeout: 608 seconds < 1617288121 894703 :LKoen!~LKoen@65.250.88.92.rev.sfr.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1617288810 145186 :drunken_lizard!~drunken_l@cpc1-bsfd9-2-0-cust12.5-3.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1617288894 413298 :drunken_lizard!~drunken_l@cpc1-bsfd9-2-0-cust12.5-3.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone have general advice for writing a Rockstar program that prints a specific message? In a totally mad and convoluted way, ofc < 1617289822 769143 :LKoen!~LKoen@65.250.88.92.rev.sfr.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1617290322 873830 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b98aa4.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1617290332 715738 :NeverBorn!~NeverBorn@93-41-17-168.ip79.fastwebnet.it QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1617290999 544111 :sprock!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1617291063 816100 :delta23!~deltaepsi@unaffiliated/deltaepsilon23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1617292961 904597 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.4.124.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :nakilon: :D < 1617293018 269883 :arcsor5!~textual@185.240.244.141 JOIN :#esoteric < 1617295682 908166 :delta23!~deltaepsi@unaffiliated/deltaepsilon23 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds > 1617295794 260638 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07No Literals, Gotos Only, Final Destination!14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81737&oldid=60888 5* 03Something Fawful 5* (+37) 10/* Official Implementation */ added... finally (took me long enough) < 1617295873 453669 :arcsor5!~textual@185.240.244.141 QUIT :Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… > 1617295902 144190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Parse this sic14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81738&oldid=81661 5* 03Digital Hunter 5* (+232) 10/* ROT13 cipher */ < 1617296564 863494 :Hooloovo0!Hooloovoo@sorunome.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1617296793 692001 :hendursa1!~weechat@gateway/tor-sasl/hendursaga QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1617296822 774212 :hendursa1!~weechat@gateway/tor-sasl/hendursaga JOIN :#esoteric < 1617297276 658033 :Hooloovo0!Hooloovoo@sorunome.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1617297627 789058 :drunken_lizard!~drunken_l@cpc1-bsfd9-2-0-cust12.5-3.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection > 1617298334 498503 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Grain14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81739&oldid=81736 5* 03Grom 5* (+179) 10/* Evidence of viability */ > 1617298431 510993 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Grain14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81740&oldid=81739 5* 03Grom 5* (+0) 10/* Evidence of viability */ > 1617298463 489655 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Grain14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81741&oldid=81740 5* 03Grom 5* (-70) 10/* Evidence of viability */ > 1617298471 865174 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Grain14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81742&oldid=81741 5* 03Grom 5* (-1) 10/* Evidence of viability */ > 1617298589 990317 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Parse this sic14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81743&oldid=81738 5* 03Digital Hunter 5* (+66) 10/* Commands and keywords */ important clarification to "succeed" > 1617299565 999627 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Grain14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81744&oldid=81742 5* 03Grom 5* (+185) 10/* Evidence of viability */ < 1617299918 233452 :moony!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1617299938 225377 :Bowserinator!Bowserinat@hellomouse/dev/Bowserinator QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1617300206 921612 :Bowserinator!Bowserinat@hellomouse/dev/Bowserinator JOIN :#esoteric < 1617300214 875634 :moony!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony JOIN :#esoteric < 1617300551 939397 :grumble!~Thunderbi@freenode/staff/grumble QUIT :Killed (Fuchs (♥ you)) < 1617300590 571040 :grumble!~Thunderbi@freenode/staff/grumble JOIN :#esoteric < 1617300893 910641 :delta23!~deltaepsi@unaffiliated/deltaepsilon23 JOIN :#esoteric > 1617300973 214734 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Intramodular Transaction14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=81745&oldid=74674 5* 03Hakerh400 5* (+601) 10Add TIO links < 1617301538 510044 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :amazing how hard it is to find any decent public chat logs in Russian < 1617301583 14202 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.4.124.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :for neural stuff? < 1617301590 413256 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :for learning stuff, ye < 1617301604 489388 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :had to parse some buggy php forum with some chat and chat-archive plugins < 1617301631 149798 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :broken bb codes, broken closing html tags, etc. -- got 73k pairs of message in the end < 1617301646 614701 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.4.124.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1617301755 807871 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :broken tags: https://i.imgur.com/gl4bWhf.png broken bb: https://i.imgur.com/WtX7OHN.png < 1617301800 341558 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually I have some megabytes of IRC logs somewhere on backup HDD, but I thought it would be easier to get some from the internet than to find those < 1617301810 570719 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure in my decision < 1617301859 397425 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.4.124.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I’m lacking in English words to console or sympathize < 1617301893 372968 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.4.124.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah something it’s way quicker to search something out there than in a mess of a file system you created :D < 1617302030 730725 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and all it to make another talking bot for my empty channel < 1617302128 121475 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made a KiwiIRC webpage that people can open it in a browser to leave me a message but from what they write it appeared that they are stupid enough to think that when they join my chat I have to respond to them immediately < 1617302192 221083 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like I'm 24/7 support manager < 1617302203 682083 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I'll make the bot to autorespond ..D < 1617302221 913068 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.4.124.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1617302250 678059 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :also a few megabytes is probably not enough < 1617302270 327304 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but good luck analyzing IRC logs, they're terrible and often full of spam and hard to understand jargon < 1617302278 934494 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :megabytes were good; 73k is probably not enough < 1617302287 65351 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.4.124.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :nakilon: wait, do you like Q&A for them or what? Or they just say hi and expect you to hi back immediately? :o < 1617302317 360222 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :arseniiv some mix of predefined QA and generated responses I guess < 1617302407 491455 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas the hard thing is grammar errors people do ( < 1617302424 720453 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.4.124.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :I’m too sad this ##math isn’t so esoteric, a couple of times I joined there it wasn’t very good for my questions, IIRC < 1617302433 360111 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.4.124.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/this/that < 1617302457 830204 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :IIRC it wasn't helpful for me either < 1617302487 521115 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that I can speak their language < 1617302493 476272 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nakilon: that's what you get anywhere if you want instant low latency chat with people rather than carefully composed long form replies with hours of latency between users on a web forum. IRC just made sure we have that in writing, not just spoken in person and on telephone < 1617302500 779496 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.4.124.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wanted to ask something about rotating bunches of vectors here but remembered about ##math and now I’m mixed < 1617302532 436408 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :arseniiv: you can't easily make a good forum whose topic is just "math", because by default it gets flooded by boring math homework questions < 1617302541 60587 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :arseniiv: you can ask here about rotating bunches of vectors though < 1617302554 53783 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas for some reason average Russian chat text has 5-10 times more errors in the words that average English chat text < 1617302568 194084 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.4.124.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :chats are awesome, though one-line chats are a bit Procrustean < 1617302587 988773 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the sentences are incorrect more often because of non-native speakers < 1617302596 828883 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :*more often in English < 1617302599 196874 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.4.124.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: I know! I’m just have issues with myself spamming esoteric questions in #esoteric < 1617302648 530043 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :one-line chat logs are easier to parse ..D < 1617302704 267937 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also private messaging logs are easier to build message pairs but they aren't shared publicly < 1617302774 192484 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nakilon: did you really sample all the average English text chat and the average Russian text chat? there's so much of it, at least for English, most in places that I avoid, that I have no idea what the average is like < 1617302793 207336 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.4.124.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :now I wonder about Hungarian, Finnish and some other chats (do I have a poor memory on who is a native speaker of what) < 1617302811 770558 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas I can judge by current dialog and reddit that I read every day < 1617302826 303223 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know, I do very little chat in Hungarian. about one small community these days, plus some chat for dayjob < 1617302832 196414 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :average Russian chats have mistakes in every 10th word < 1617302835 972180 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nakilon: ah yes. I rarely watch reddit < 1617302847 577189 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Russian would write "vord" instead of "word" by 10% chance < 1617302854 899180 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nakilon: do you have any guess why it has more mistakes? < 1617302875 568915 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't it just that you select for the English chats that have less mistakes, but there are fewer choices for Russian chat? < 1617302902 451791 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.4.124.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :nakilon: reminded me how I misspelled “wave” as “vawe” many times < 1617302906 315604 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean there's definitely a large spectrum for English too < 1617302909 19293 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess something about how the pronounciation and spelling correspond to each other < 1617302921 647083 :delta23!~deltaepsi@unaffiliated/deltaepsilon23 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1617302924 482208 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not sure < 1617302947 687644 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I often see users on English and French chat that seem to type old style SMS speech that I find hard to read < 1617302967 494532 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :with abbreviations that are often cryptic to me < 1617302985 438333 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas I read not only IT subreddits, a lot is about games < 1617303125 723449 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also ~10% of native Russian speakers are Ukrainian citizens and it hurts to read them today after years of ukrainization and prohibition to learn and sometimes even speak Russian < 1617303188 662778 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so? English chat has a lot of non-native speakers too, with often questionable command of English < 1617303206 884810 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's often obvious that someone is from Ukraine and has never had even a single lesson of Russian and in result they don't know neither of two languages because they are forced to speak one language in school but use another one at home < 1617303235 193388 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure, that happens in many places < 1617303328 180642 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yes, sometimes you can guess what native language someone speaks. it's easier in spoken text, but still often possible in written < 1617303380 332190 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used to watch a game stream by someone speaking English with the second most egregious Hungarian accent that I've heard from people who regularly speak English < 1617303394 623049 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the stream is still there, I'm just less interested < 1617303435 671954 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no one recognizes I'm Ukrainian though < 1617303525 533431 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could even recognize Belorussian by a surname but Ukrainian and Russian surnames are more mixed < 1617303567 262944 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure, some people speak English so well that it's harder to tell < 1617303730 264453 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are basically only two clues: 1) how I pronounce "шо" instead of "что" ("what") -- this is how you speak Russian in Eastern Ukraine, and 2) how I pronounce the sound "г" ("gh") that is so subtle that no one spots it unless tries to < 1617303755 123592 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.4.124.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah btw the question is interesting, though not mine. We have an euclidean space, say of dimension 3 (the original question is just about 3) and vectors v1, …, vN and w1, …, wN; < 1617303755 273384 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.4.124.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :we are interested in value of (v1 ⋅ R(w1)) … (vN ⋅ R(wN)) for an average rotation R, i. e. we want to integrate dμ(R) with respect to a Haar measure μ on SO(3) which is 1 on all of SO(3); < 1617303755 377922 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.4.124.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :I’ve written various expressions involving 3D vector operations or quaternions (IIRC Haar measure on SO(3) corresponds to an usual euclidean-induced measure on S⁴, the sphere of unit quaternions, < 1617303755 377984 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.4.124.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :which cover SO(3) doubly but that’s of no pain for this integration) but no use, the integral for even N = 1 looks unapproachable; < 1617303755 378002 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.4.124.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :for N = 1 it should be 0 (pretty obvious), for N = 2 the asker gives an empirical result (v1 ⋅ v2) (w1 ⋅ w2), and for N = 3 they claim (v1 ⋅ (v2 × v3)) (w1 ⋅ (w2 × w3)); < 1617303755 592113 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.4.124.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :⋅ is the inner product and × is a cross product; and I think we can slap a fixed orientation to the euclidean space for less worrying, as we use only SO, not O < 1617303797 364017 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nakilon: can your timezone be a clue too? < 1617303806 486219 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also when I speak to another Ukrainian (and we have some uplifted mood, maybe after a beer) we both start speaking with much more Ukrainian accent < 1617303857 823580 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas only one timezone in Ukraine ..D but you can timezone Russian citizen by his vocabulary similar to how you can differ far parts of US < 1617303898 273575 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nakilon: exactly, but I mean your timezone might be a clue how someone tells that you're Ukranian < 1617303913 282512 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :though while US pronounciation may differ from state to state it's much less different between parts of Russia even though it's bigger, idk why < 1617303999 219589 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nakilon: dunno, that should depend on television and radio, but I don't know much about the history < 1617304026 37281 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe US was more influence by immigration? < 1617304034 941377 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :*influenced < 1617304348 696024 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1617304365 416669 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"21:47:34 nakilon: do you have any guess why it has more mistakes?" -- oh, maybe because mistakes aren't in roots actually but in suffixes -- you use them in Russian to change the meaning of the word while in English you rather change the order of words < 1617304387 77153 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/actually/usually < 1617304631 428481 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :for example, "server / on the server" is "сервер / на серверЕ"; my CTO always wrote "на серверИ" -- that was awful < 1617305037 9354 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :серверИ doesn't seem to be a valid form according to wiktionary < 1617305084 768604 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.4.124.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :сервери is awful I agree < 1617305098 421410 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep, absolutely invalid word, and it's a pretty common mistake to write И instead of Е in the end < 1617305110 607607 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.4.124.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :that’s even more eye-straining than “у бабушке” < 1617305154 711896 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :к бабушки < 1617305262 420173 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.4.124.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :I’m glad I almost never see that < 1617305283 743694 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically when someone can't learn own language he can't learn English and I believe if you can't English you very likely can't program < 1617305303 503811 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :good that CTO don't code < 1617305318 863048 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.4.124.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least because good docs are in English yep < 1617305388 569840 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.4.124.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :my first major dive in English was because of Delphi 7 docs :D though that one was very shallow. Several years latter I started reading webfiction < 1617305497 767102 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, those F1 Windows API and stdlib docs -- you was either learning from them or from nowhere < 1617305723 929180 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in ~1990 there were Russian books for Spectrum / BASIC, not much computer science in them but a decent start, and then the world has changed somehow; maybe because of Internet, idk < 1617305813 105531 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course it's my point of view that is attached to my age < 1617306317 574356 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 JOIN :#esoteric < 1617306395 72714 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1617306501 47039 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 NICK :Lord_of_Life < 1617306568 640439 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.4.124.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think good physical books on programming and CS were pretty rare; I haven’t had one ever. Had plenty of somethings quickly becoming outdated and having not too much info, like a book on JS or a book about some interesting algorithms and data structures with Delphi code, but I wasn’t tempted to type all that code, and I think I had no internet these days so I couldn’t just download it. Ugh. So the book mostly sat on the shelf. Oh < 1617306568 787148 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.4.124.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric : I was glad I now understood regexes were compilable into graphs nice to use, but anyway the presentation wasn’t the best (it always finished with a page or several of plain code), nor was the breadth, though what do I want from ~300 pages < 1617306722 534611 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.4.124.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :one needs thousands of pages and tinkering with hundreds of examples of various style to gain a versatile enough understanding, shame paper books aren’t good with this these times. A couple of topics, surely — but at least a decent slice of a discipline? noo < 1617306784 878460 :mniip!mniip@freenode/staff/mniip JOIN :#esoteric < 1617306858 644824 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.4.124.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can have a reference for a small language like Lua, and its compact standard library, but you won’t learn how to use a programming language as an instrument decently, only knowing its reference, unfortunately. You can have an elementary group theory, but no more. Something is not right in the universe :D < 1617306990 188873 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.4.124.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :though it’s well-known since long ago that human learning is pretty inefficient, of course, why do I reiterate that < 1617308024 443959 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1617308689 593773 :delta23!~deltaepsi@unaffiliated/deltaepsilon23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1617310132 622155 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1617311948 668434 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: Hmmm < 1617312118 857805 :moony!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1617312345 37502 :moony!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony JOIN :#esoteric < 1617314422 608136 :ubq323!~ubq323@host109-148-97-157.range109-148.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1617314730 863655 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's SIGBOVIK time, I guess. I see they've made the proceedings available already. < 1617316836 10570 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh drat, I missed some of it < 1617316851 286810 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a schedule? < 1617316857 354699 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :to see what talks I missed < 1617316943 897427 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, there is the report, you could still read that < 1617317193 348029 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't see a schedule of talks, but there was a keynote from tom7 on the paper Lowestcase and Uppestcase letters: Advances in Derp Learning, and then regular talks for: Stone Tools as Palaeolithic Central Unit Processors, and Macro-driven metalanguage for writing Pyramid Scheme programs, in addition to this ongoing bird thing. < 1617317219 414232 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :They said for fairness the keynote was selected randomly just now, so I guess they couldn't have put it in a schedule ahead of time. < 1617317238 745134 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do like this model where the answers to the Q&A questions are prerecorded. < 1617318154 798676 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh no, I don't have an SSTV decoder at all. < 1617318628 143575 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: yes, and he promises a longer video version of his talk too < 1617318637 546088 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :a director's cut or something < 1617318647 147304 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :which I assume will be on his youtube channel after the conference < 1617318710 595405 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :he also said that I got him to play shapez.io, and that took up much of his time before the conference, and I'm not sure if I should consider that a success or a failure because it means worse sigbovik talk, < 1617318757 817334 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I recommended that game two months ago, so how was I to know he'd start playing it shortly before the conference deadline. should I have warned him that it will hook him for weeks? < 1617318769 505677 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean he's an adult, he can waste his time on his own < 1617318865 867668 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has wasted last hours to deploy his first Ruby code onto Google Cloud Functions as a backend for the future chat bot < 1617318982 784687 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There were some references in the keynote video about it being ruined (or some other adjective) by the SIGBOVIK organizing committee. < 1617319335 184622 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :This was nice. I don't know if all the papers and/or presentations were that great, but I'd kind of been missing the conference atmosphere. < 1617319521 928612 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, the conference ended, so I'll rewind and watch the talks at the start, including tom7's < 1617319533 259143 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :though I think I'll want to see the full version and read the proceedings too < 1617320349 623350 :LKoen!~LKoen@65.250.88.92.rev.sfr.net QUIT :Quit: “It’s only logical. First you learn to talk, then you learn to think. Too bad it’s not the other way round.” < 1617320481 763754 :delta23!~deltaepsi@unaffiliated/deltaepsilon23 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1617320575 945735 :delta23!~deltaepsi@unaffiliated/deltaepsilon23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1617320666 817280 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1617321012 804608 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: full version of tom7's talk is out at https://www.twitch.tv/videos/971776826