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01:09:00 <zzo38> Please tell me if this is good http://zzo38computer.org/textfile/miscellaneous/separate_deck_crypto it is what I mentioned a few days ago
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19:39:23 <delta23> what class of language would it be if there was a programming language that had no conditionals or branches - but
19:39:37 <delta23> had self modification and by definition each program was in an infinite loop ?
19:40:28 <kmc> it depends on the details but such a thing could easily be turing-complete
19:41:46 <kmc> you can easily build data conditionals out of arithmetic -- if x is a 0-or-1 bool then x*a + (1-x)*b is equivelent to (x ? a : b)
19:42:12 <kmc> and if you have self modifying code then it's easy to turn data conditionals into control flow conditionals
19:45:39 <int-e> delta23: what do you think of https://esolangs.org/wiki/SMETANA
19:47:04 <delta23> int-e: that case is more obvious though
19:49:10 <int-e> delta23: Well, it's simple, it has no conditionals, and it is self-modifying.
19:50:00 <kmc> you can implement unconditional 'goto' as a write to some 'program counter' variable
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19:50:05 <kmc> (not in SMETANA but in general I mean)
19:50:41 <kmc> every instruction in your infinite loop is assigned a "line number" and is coded in such a way that it checks the pc variable and has no side effect unless the pc is equal to that line number
19:50:52 <kmc> then you 'goto' by writing to pc and just waiting for it to loop around to that instruction
19:52:53 <kmc> 10 X = Y; GOTO 20 ==> x = (pc == 10 ? y : x); pc = 20
19:53:01 <kmc> this sort of thing doesn't need self modifying code either
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19:53:16 <kmc> unless your arthimetic primitives are sufficiently impovrished
19:53:47 <int-e> Well if you allow ?: you should be happy with Fractran-like formalisms.
19:54:49 <kmc> oh yeah, fractran is a good point of reference here
19:55:15 <kmc> but I aimed to show above that the ?: construct is not essential
19:55:26 <kmc> if you have more ordinary arithmetic
20:00:22 <int-e> . o O ( s/SGX (compromise|vulnerability)/SGX backdoor/g )
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