< 1618532582 916517 :arseniiv_!~arseniiv@136.169.237.136 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1618532867 135548 :pikhq!sid394595@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xxxtvzbxjcuouwfs PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION waves
< 1618534269 217996 :op_4!~tslil@2a01:4f8:c0c:7952::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey pikhq < 1618534936 275346 :pikhq!sid394595@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xxxtvzbxjcuouwfs PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION has had a fruitful day of professional computer-touching
< 1618535567 104112 :metcalf!~metcalf@host86-152-127-91.range86-152.btcentralplus.com QUIT :Quit: metcalf < 1618535585 30618 :metcalf!~metcalf@host86-152-127-91.range86-152.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1618535838 411243 :metcalf!~metcalf@host86-152-127-91.range86-152.btcentralplus.com QUIT :Client Quit < 1618535855 33878 :metcalf!~metcalf@host86-152-127-91.range86-152.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric > 1618537944 971248 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07STOD14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82203&oldid=75117 5* 03Mercerenies 5* (+38) 10 < 1618541659 922313 :mla!~mla@162.253.176.229 JOIN :#esoteric < 1618542862 315538 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-eeudlqiuuwrtzpbi QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1618543297 662904 :metcalf!~metcalf@host86-152-127-91.range86-152.btcentralplus.com QUIT :Quit: metcalf < 1618544185 996905 :delta23!~deltaepsi@unaffiliated/deltaepsilon23 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1618544676 621236 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you use hashes for random numbers? My idea is that the random number seed consists of two parts (which can contain arbitrary data), being the sequence number and the hash; use the hash of that as the random numbers, and then the next seed is the next sequence number (the initial sequence number can be any number, not necessarily zero) and the previous hash. < 1618545772 77371 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't see why not. < 1618546111 203288 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does the method I suggested work? < 1618547768 838402 :pikhq!sid394595@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xxxtvzbxjcuouwfs PRIVMSG #esoteric :that seems like it's basically just constructing a stream cipher out of a hash function? < 1618547824 565866 :pikhq!sid394595@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xxxtvzbxjcuouwfs PRIVMSG #esoteric :while i wouldn't be confident without a cryptographer looking into it, there probably is an acceptable construction that looks something kind of like that < 1618548712 127760 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The sequence number does not start at zero, because if it does, then it is possible to predict the random numbers.) < 1618551104 969891 :grumble!~Thunderbi@freenode/staff/grumble QUIT :Ping timeout: 608 seconds < 1618552887 878901 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds > 1618553885 999367 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Esolang:Sandbox14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82204&oldid=81574 5* 03ColorfulGalaxy 5* (+1873) 10/* C */ < 1618556318 922434 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b98aa4.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer > 1618556892 767942 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Esolang:Sandbox14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82205&oldid=82204 5* 03ColorfulGalaxy (disambiguation) 5* (+223) 10/* C */ > 1618557038 956662 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Hello world program in esoteric languages14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82206&oldid=81930 5* 03ColorfulGalaxy (disambiguation) 5* (+2129) 10 > 1618557097 688752 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Hello world program in esoteric languages14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82207&oldid=82206 5* 03ColorfulGalaxy (disambiguation) 5* (+17) 10 < 1618558986 408618 :S_Gautam!uid286066@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vmrfnsgpgjqpkmjn JOIN :#esoteric < 1618560419 717503 :hendursaga!~weechat@gateway/tor-sasl/hendursaga JOIN :#esoteric < 1618560573 721637 :hendursa1!~weechat@gateway/tor-sasl/hendursaga QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1618560956 880521 :jix!~jix@static.71.5.69.159.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 3.0 < 1618561299 974366 :jix!~jix@static.71.5.69.159.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1618561355 326018 :LKoen!~LKoen@65.250.88.92.rev.sfr.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1618562233 20701 :sprock!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1618562346 912077 :sftp!~sftp@unaffiliated/sftp QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1618563594 398228 :TheLie!~TheLie@2a02:8106:215:3300:e7ad:5ab7:4ea0:e177 JOIN :#esoteric < 1618567965 35530 :TheLie!~TheLie@2a02:8106:215:3300:e7ad:5ab7:4ea0:e177 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1618570767 997962 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :quick question. does git still only use sha-1 checksums, and how easy is it for a motivated attacker to mess up your repository by causing you to commit files with sha-1 collisions? < 1618571227 681119 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :They did some sort of a pinpoint mitigation for the shattered.io attack that I forget the details of, but I don't think the more ambitious plan of moving entirely out of SHA-1 has happened yet. < 1618571283 871798 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://git-scm.com/docs/hash-function-transition/ "Git v2.13.0 and later subsequently moved to a hardened SHA-1 implementation by default, which isn’t vulnerable to the SHAttered attack, but SHA-1 is still weak." < 1618571583 289600 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm mostly asking because someone wants to use git for storing certain some data in the future, where I think it would be a bad idea to use git, not only because of the sha-1 but for other reasons too, and want to give arguments to change their mind < 1618571608 941339 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-151.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: thanks < 1618572787 831292 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :should use git if data is binary < 1618572791 837135 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :for example < 1618572828 289776 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, wanted to ask < 1618572846 937574 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :has anyone of you ever seen the accidental md5 collision? < 1618572855 589592 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in reality < 1618572887 94975 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in your real projects, not brought to you by upvoted funny blog posts < 1618572925 667502 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :*should not < 1618572932 92296 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(typo in my first message) < 1618573731 790804 :hakatashi!~hakatashi@104.131.49.125 JOIN :#esoteric < 1618573746 982567 :hakatashi1!~hakatashi@104.131.49.125 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1618576107 711412 :djanatyn1!~djanatyn@vps-7f49a6b0.vps.ovh.ca NICK :djanatyn < 1618576637 608495 :delta23!~deltaepsi@unaffiliated/deltaepsilon23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1618577036 609379 :arseniiv_!~arseniiv@136.169.237.136 JOIN :#esoteric < 1618580886 775545 :LKoen!~LKoen@65.250.88.92.rev.sfr.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1618582653 601743 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah puzzles. https://paste.debian.net/1193985/ :) < 1618582754 667455 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the "(X moves first)" is tautology here < 1618582766 551493 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know that it can be inferred :) < 1618582832 626070 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :though it's not *quite* tautological... in Othello, O might have had the first move, but been forced to pass < 1618582898 277961 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1618582934 595820 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b98aa4.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1618582957 182861 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it actually turns out that the shortest Reversi games are one move shorter than the shortest Othello games. < 1618583074 721649 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :because in these positions with O to move, the game just ends: https://paste.debian.net/1193986/ < 1618583322 705668 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, didn't know < 1618583357 602492 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had to check Wikipedia on the precise rules. < 1618583448 299363 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Finally resolving a bit of cognitive dissonance that I've been suffering for a few decades :-P (because I learned the Reversi rules as a kid, and then I played Othello a lot on Windows, and the fixed starting pattern as well as the passing rule felt kind of wrong) < 1618583749 736238 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(A possible solution is https://paste.debian.net/1193987/ ...not sure how feasible this is without a computer. But I liked the diamond shape, that was unexpected.) < 1618583864 799425 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Out of those, I've just played Reversi on Windows 1.02. Not sure whether its exact rules match the name. < 1618583894 343958 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was reversi on zx spectrum < 1618583899 281037 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :couldn't beat it < 1618583917 666674 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually there were all kinds of games with difficulty levels we couldn't beat < 1618583924 792414 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :chess, gomoku < 1618584015 248420 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Windows 1.02 version has a "Skill" level selector (Beginner/Novice/Expert/Master), but I've no idea which one (if any) I could beat. < 1618584028 984585 :NotApplicable!4055ad82@64.85.173.130 JOIN :#esoteric < 1618584205 508049 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :we had this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyDSL_iJx2o < 1618584315 221353 :sftp!~sftp@unaffiliated/sftp JOIN :#esoteric < 1618584334 360645 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :my favourite logic game on spectrum was... < 1618584509 391480 :LKoen!~LKoen@65.250.88.92.rev.sfr.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1618584634 313048 :LKoen!~LKoen@65.250.88.92.rev.sfr.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1618584700 803308 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't find it ( < 1618584711 636672 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was like reversi on hexagonal field < 1618584724 23186 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1618584761 214096 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you have not to make more pieces of your color but fill more triangle sectors in between the hexagonal field lines < 1618584785 955254 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :every time you surround a triangle you permanently draw it to your color < 1618585298 749015 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :found it; the only video unfortunately https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7mtrim1u94 < 1618585314 750816 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does not show the second player to draw any triangles < 1618585730 267540 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1618586026 929836 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1618586329 61433 :blueskunk!blueskunk@ctrl-c.club QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 2.4 < 1618587021 813695 :xelxebar_!~xelxebar@gateway/tor-sasl/xelxebar QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1618587299 743781 :xelxebar!~xelxebar@gateway/tor-sasl/xelxebar JOIN :#esoteric < 1618588417 29804 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode JOIN :#esoteric < 1618588801 611405 :NotApplicable!4055ad82@64.85.173.130 QUIT :Quit: Connection closed < 1618590038 59718 :metcalf!~metcalf@host86-152-127-91.range86-152.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1618590043 829508 :metcalf!~metcalf@host86-152-127-91.range86-152.btcentralplus.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1618590055 867272 :metcalf!~metcalf@host86-152-127-91.range86-152.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1618590736 465576 :LKoen!~LKoen@65.250.88.92.rev.sfr.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1618592619 461392 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b98aa4.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1618593148 780709 :ArthurStrong!~ArthurStr@46-133-204-217.mobile.vf-ua.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1618593881 26008 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b98aa4.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1618594080 933095 :ITPaw!~ITPaw@dynamic-002-247-254-003.2.247.pool.telefonica.de JOIN :#esoteric > 1618594660 765145 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Toki pi ilo nanpa14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82208&oldid=82188 5* 03Olus2000 5* (+22) 10/* Verb sentences */ kipisi argument description update > 1618594691 535799 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Toki pi ilo nanpa14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82209&oldid=82208 5* 03Olus2000 5* (+6) 10/* Verb sentences */ grammar in kipisi description < 1618595899 495919 :ArthurStrong!~ArthurStr@46-133-204-217.mobile.vf-ua.net QUIT :Quit: leaving > 1618596832 561837 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Duocentehexaquinquagesimal14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82210&oldid=82183 5* 03Makonede 5* (+82) 10 < 1618597241 997766 :S_Gautam!uid286066@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vmrfnsgpgjqpkmjn QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1618598855 444094 :ITPaw!~ITPaw@dynamic-002-247-254-003.2.247.pool.telefonica.de QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1618602973 262835 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 JOIN :#esoteric < 1618603010 670511 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1618603160 262667 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 NICK :Lord_of_Life < 1618607696 903434 :LKoen!~LKoen@65.250.88.92.rev.sfr.net QUIT :Quit: “It’s only logical. First you learn to talk, then you learn to think. Too bad it’s not the other way round.” < 1618609886 584826 :xelxebar!~xelxebar@gateway/tor-sasl/xelxebar QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1618609903 801137 :xelxebar!~xelxebar@gateway/tor-sasl/xelxebar JOIN :#esoteric < 1618610568 412241 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meat_raffle "Care must be taken with seafood trays given the propensity for the contents to spoil in the heat as the lucky winner continues drinking; often a friendly publican will store the tray in the fridge until the winner is sufficiently refreshed and ready to head home.[citation needed]" < 1618610573 442801 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, Wikipedia, never change. < 1618613851 326068 :Cale!~cale@cpef48e38ee8583-cm0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1618616165 151315 :metcalf!~metcalf@host86-152-127-91.range86-152.btcentralplus.com QUIT :Quit: metcalf