00:26:12 -!- arseniiv has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 02:07:33 -!- Sgeo has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 02:12:01 [[Semeler]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82255&oldid=81958 * Icecream17 * (-2764) 02:17:25 [[User:Hiato]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82256&oldid=82179 * Hiato * (-195) cleaned up things 02:22:13 [[User:Hiato]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82257&oldid=82256 * Hiato * (+146) contact details 02:26:44 -!- Sgeo has joined. 02:38:52 [[Special:Log/delete]] delete * Ais523 * deleted "[[Project Euler]]": Copyright violation: copied from external website 02:40:13 [[User talk:ColorfulGalaxy (disambiguation)]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=82258 * Ais523 * (+355) warning about copyright violation 02:41:25 [[D]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82259&oldid=81881 * Ais523 * (-1083) rv changes by ColorfulGalaxy: copyright violation 02:41:49 [[Special:Log/delete]] revision * Ais523 * Ais523 changed visibility of 2 revisions on page [[D]]: content hidden: Copyright violation 02:46:53 [[Special:Log/delete]] delete * Ais523 * deleted "[[Branch]]": temporary deletion for housekeeping: doing a partial history merge after a cut-and-paste move, and need to temporarily delete the page to do this 02:47:24 [[Special:Log/delete]] restore * Ais523 * restored "[[Branch]]": history merge: restoring revisions that should be merged 02:48:02 [[Special:Log/move]] move * Ais523 * moved [[Branch]] to [[Branch (Johnki)]]: history merge: moving the history after a cut-and-paste move 02:48:02 [[Special:Log/delete]] delete * Ais523 * deleted "[[Branch (Johnki)]]": Deleted to make way for move from "[[Branch]]" 02:48:22 [[Special:Log/delete]] restore * Ais523 * restored "[[Branch]]": history merge: restoring revisions that should not be merged 02:49:18 [[Special:Log/delete]] restore * Ais523 * restored "[[Branch (Johnki)]]": history merge: restoring the revision present after the cut-and-paste move 02:49:46 [[Branch (Johnki)]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82261&oldid=82260 * Ais523 * (+157) set top revision after history merge 02:56:50 [[User talk:HyperNeutrino]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=82262 * Ais523 * (+1111) how to move pages 03:33:57 -!- xkapastel has quit (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity). 03:42:44 I wanted to write a program to convert levels from the DOS Vampire Tower format into Free Hero Mesh format. Am I strange for deciding that PostScript is the programming language to use for this? 03:43:26 (See http://sprunge.us/f9VgxB in case you are interested in the code) 03:44:33 I think on this IRC someone said that PostScript is both esoteric and non-esoteric programming language. Perhaps yes; in addition, it is also both general-purpose and domain-specific, and it is also both text-only and binary. What do you think? 04:08:34 -!- copumpkin has joined. 05:34:49 -!- delta23 has quit (Quit: Leaving). 06:15:48 [[Subreal]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82263&oldid=82182 * RocketRace * (+15) Allow surreal literals to push in arbitrary (numeric) forms 06:26:16 [[Subreal]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82264&oldid=82263 * RocketRace * (+685) Forms vs surreal numbers 07:38:38 -!- imode has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds). 08:00:25 -!- Sgeo has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 08:07:19 -!- hendursa1 has joined. 08:09:33 -!- hendursaga has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 08:19:58 [[Talk:]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82265&oldid=82254 * Hakerh400 * (+1776) 08:22:13 [[]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82266&oldid=82193 * Hakerh400 * (+102) /* Constant one */ 08:48:46 -!- bb010g_ has joined. 08:49:10 -!- bb010g_ has quit (Client Quit). 08:49:31 -!- bb010g has joined. 08:51:52 -!- sprock has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 09:18:15 -!- LKoen has joined. 11:01:10 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/702263071854559243/833658196467515402/EzO1Sl6VkAESE_k.png 11:48:00 -!- bb010g has quit (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity). 12:08:21 -!- Xavo34man has joined. 12:11:12 hello 12:17:41 -!- arseniiv has joined. 12:20:36 [[Suptiftam/Library]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=82267 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+1015) Make the page 12:20:44 [[Suptiftam/Library]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82268&oldid=82267 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+1) : 12:23:50 -!- Xavo34man has left. 12:28:13 [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * Lyxal * New user account 12:29:34 [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82269&oldid=82165 * Lyxal * (+182) Howdy y'all 12:30:33 [[User:Lyxal]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=82270 * Lyxal * (+83) Created page with "Yes. [[Keg]] [[Vyxal]] [[Minefriff]] [[Curlyfrick]] [[Keta]] Are all mine. Yes" 12:30:57 [[User:Lyxal]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82271&oldid=82270 * Lyxal * (+0) If I could do good spelling that would be great 12:31:46 [[User talk:Sporeball]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82272&oldid=82027 * Lyxal * (+36) /* Frick */ new section 14:19:44 -!- Sgeo has joined. 15:39:02 `ftoc 103 15:39:04 103.00°F = 39.44°C 15:42:27 @metar lowi 15:42:29 LOWI 191520Z 28003KT 230V340 9999 FEW050 SCT070 BKN090 11/01 Q1015 NOSIG 15:44:27 int-e: what does that mean? 15:45:33 it's a weather report. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/METAR 15:46:39 cool, TIL 15:48:21 fungot: are transposition tables important in Othello game tree search? 15:48:21 int-e: i'm also leaving for night soonish. 15:54:32 in particular, "LOWI" is the airport code, "191520Z" is a timestamp in the unusual %d%H%M%z format, "11/01" is the current temperature and the temperature at which the air would be saturated with water vapor, I think "Q1015" gives the atmospheric pressure in some way, and the rest I don't remember, there's something in it about clouds and wind speed and direction 15:55:17 air pressure at ground level is 101.5 kPa 15:55:38 ground level? they give the air pressure at ground level in these reports, not sea level? fun 15:55:49 but which one is the wind speed and direction? 15:55:51 FEW/SCaTterred/BroKen are cloud densities; the numbers following ar in 1k feet units, IIRC 15:56:10 280 03KT is average direction and wind speed 15:56:28 230V340 is the interval in which the direction varies 15:57:08 hmm, wasn't the wind direction measured in units of 10 degrees? I must have imagined that 15:57:34 well there *are* 0s there. 15:57:47 yes, but I mean the 0 would be omitted 15:57:49 oh well 15:57:53 mayby you're confusing it with runway numbering though 15:58:03 then "29003KT" must encode the wind speed somehow 15:58:17 or perhaps the "V" itself does that? 15:58:21 b_jonas: I added a space for readability 15:58:40 kt is "knots" 15:59:31 @metar KOAK 15:59:32 KOAK 191553Z 24004KT 10SM SCT008 OVC010 11/08 A3015 RMK AO2 SLP210 T01060078 15:59:51 ok, but then I still don't know what the wind speed is, because 29003 knots is unlikely 16:00:04 probably encodes variable wind speed too somehow 16:00:12 A3015 is probably pressure again but in a different unit, something mercury based maybe? 16:00:39 b_jonas: the first three digits are the direction 16:00:55 b_jonas: and it was 280, not 290 16:01:16 um but 16:01:31 isn't "230V340" the wind direction? 16:01:54 well, one is the dominant/average wind direction, the other is an interval 16:01:58 ah 16:02:03 but yes, there is some redundancy 16:03:27 @metar LHBP 16:03:27 LHBP 191430Z 08005KT 040V100 9999 FEW022 BKN080 10/05 Q1014 NOSIG 16:04:33 @metar EGLL 16:04:33 EGLL 191550Z AUTO 08004KT 010V160 9999 NCD 17/01 Q1019 16:04:45 hmm, NCD. 16:04:52 that's a bit old 16:04:55 no cloud data? 16:04:55 `dateu 16:04:56 2021-04-19 16:04:55.986 +0000 UTC April 19 Monday 2021-W16-1 16:05:17 '"Nil Cloud detected" automated METAR station has not detected any cloud, either due to a lack of it, or due to an error in the sensors' 16:05:19 the data is for ---19 14:30? 16:07:58 b_jonas: mm actually, it's possible that I'm breaking the wind direction/speed thing incorrectly and it's actually 08 005KT. 16:10:10 But no, apparently it is three digits but always rounded to the nearest 10 degrees. So that's in line with what you said earlier. (looking at http://meteocentre.com/doc/metar.html ) 16:10:48 ok 16:11:39 I was just surprised that the data is an hour and a half old. I know the airport is barely used, there are very few flights due to global pandemic, but still.\ 16:12:07 op_4: anyway it's obscure and almost, but not quite, useless... I don't know who started it (there was a bot called metasepia by boily that had a metar command, but I don't know whose idea *that* was)... but it's a pretty good fit for the channel 16:12:59 b_jonas: I have no idea how the data gets to aviationweather.gov where lambdabot gets it, but I assume there's some delay 16:13:29 and I'm hoping that aircrafts approaching the airport get more current information :) 16:22:23 ah yes, this channel has a rich history of strange bots 16:34:40 I was recently reading the logs for when I first joined #esoteric . apparently one of the first things I've done was to show termbot. 16:44:08 -!- imode has joined. 16:51:47 -!- atslash has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds). 16:53:22 -!- atslash has joined. 16:57:00 int-e: ``obscure and almost, but not quite, useless'' a good fit indeed :) 17:17:00 @metar EGLL 17:17:01 EGLL 191650Z AUTO VRB03KT 9999 NCD 16/02 Q1018 17:17:26 Oh, someone did that one already. 17:17:39 (Ridiculously good weather we're having.) 17:18:38 `` locale -a 17:18:39 C \ C.UTF-8 \ en_GB.utf8 \ en_NZ.utf8 \ en_US.utf8 \ POSIX 17:22:31 [[Talk:]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82273&oldid=82265 * Qpliu * (+353) 17:25:10 `` locale 17:25:11 ``` locale 17:25:11 LANG=en_NZ.UTF-8 \ LANGUAGE= \ LC_CTYPE="en_NZ.UTF-8" \ LC_NUMERIC="en_NZ.UTF-8" \ LC_TIME="en_NZ.UTF-8" \ LC_COLLATE="en_NZ.UTF-8" \ LC_MONETARY="en_NZ.UTF-8" \ LC_MESSAGES="en_NZ.UTF-8" \ LC_PAPER="en_NZ.UTF-8" \ LC_NAME="en_NZ.UTF-8" \ LC_ADDRESS="en_NZ.UTF-8" \ LC_TELEPHONE="en_NZ.UTF-8" \ LC_MEASUREMENT="en_NZ.UTF-8" \ LC_IDENTIFICATION="en_NZ.UTF-8" \ LC_ALL= 17:25:12 LANG=C \ LANGUAGE= \ LC_CTYPE="C" \ LC_NUMERIC="C" \ LC_TIME="C" \ LC_COLLATE="C" \ LC_MONETARY="C" \ LC_MESSAGES="C" \ LC_PAPER="C" \ LC_NAME="C" \ LC_ADDRESS="C" \ LC_TELEPHONE="C" \ LC_MEASUREMENT="C" \ LC_IDENTIFICATION="C" \ LC_ALL= 17:25:42 so the first still uses NZ locale? I thought that got changed at some point 17:25:46 good to know 17:27:06 I think the first one's pretty simple, and ` innately uses en_NZ. 17:27:21 -!- atslash has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 17:27:24 yes, I know 17:27:26 `locale 17:27:27 LANG=en_NZ.UTF-8 \ LANGUAGE= \ LC_CTYPE="en_NZ.UTF-8" \ LC_NUMERIC="en_NZ.UTF-8" \ LC_TIME="en_NZ.UTF-8" \ LC_COLLATE="en_NZ.UTF-8" \ LC_MONETARY="en_NZ.UTF-8" \ LC_MESSAGES="en_NZ.UTF-8" \ LC_PAPER="en_NZ.UTF-8" \ LC_NAME="en_NZ.UTF-8" \ LC_ADDRESS="en_NZ.UTF-8" \ LC_TELEPHONE="en_NZ.UTF-8" \ LC_MEASUREMENT="en_NZ.UTF-8" \ LC_IDENTIFICATION="en_NZ.UTF-8" \ LC_ALL= 17:28:00 but I thought bin/\` got changed at some point to be more like bin/\`\` 17:28:33 maybe that was just the other shell options 17:28:52 I also wish these didn't have rnoodl on them 17:29:27 `run echo -n $'one\ntwo'; sleep 9999 17:29:36 `` echo -n $'three\nfour'; sleep 9999 17:30:04 one \ two 17:30:13 No output. 17:34:17 -!- atslash has joined. 18:45:53 -!- sprock has joined. 18:55:37 who wants to do my work for me? 18:55:49 any takers? :D 18:55:55 * op_4 doesn't want to work today 18:58:27 -!- Lord_of_Life has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 18:59:28 -!- Lord_of_Life has joined. 19:16:37 depends on the work. 19:40:24 -!- oerjan has joined. 19:40:36 imode: writing an introduction for a paper? 19:49:46 int-e: seen girl genius yet? 19:50:29 oerjan: I have. You're just too good. 19:51:04 * oerjan does a little dance 19:51:08 op_4: do you have the rest of the paper? 19:55:54 -!- Lord_of_Life_ has joined. 19:56:23 [[Talk:OOLANG]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82274&oldid=50180 * Rdococ * (+178) 19:58:14 but I thought bin/\` got changed at some point to be more like bin/\`\` <-- the locale difference is to me the main one, so if that got changed there would hardly be a point of _having_ two commands. 19:58:33 -!- Lord_of_Life has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 19:59:00 -!- Lord_of_Life_ has changed nick to Lord_of_Life. 20:07:38 -!- delta23 has joined. 20:08:26 Is there a SASL mechanism with hashcash? I think that hashcash and CAPTCHA can be implemented as SASL mechanisms, and then SASL should be supported in HTTP(S) too. 20:09:57 oerjan: Yes, me too I think the locale is the main reason it was set up like that 20:14:24 `` locale | grep -v \" 20:14:25 LANG=en_NZ.UTF-8 \ LANGUAGE= \ LC_ALL= 20:14:28 ``` locale | grep -v \" 20:14:30 LANG=C \ LANGUAGE= \ LC_ALL= 20:20:35 int-e: yeah, i do, but this is a collaboration and i came in late to do some technical work. I'm finding it really difficult to write the background and motivation for ideas i didn't have 20:29:40 [[Special:Log/move]] move * Rdococ * moved [[Harp]] to [[Harp (Archived)]]: I don't like what I've created here, and originally tried to just blank the page but moving it here is probably a better idea. 20:34:26 [[Harp (Archived)]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82277&oldid=82275 * Rdococ * (+1524) Restored 20:36:18 [[Special:Log/move]] move * Rdococ * moved [[Upsilon]] to [[Upsilon (Archived)]] 20:37:55 -!- ProofTechnique has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 20:39:07 -!- j4cbo has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 20:39:08 -!- ProofTechnique has joined. 20:39:19 -!- pikhq has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 20:40:13 -!- pikhq has joined. 20:40:22 -!- j4cbo has joined. 20:40:53 [[Upsilon (Archived)]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82280&oldid=82278 * Rdococ * (+930) Restored for historical purposes (not that I think I'm making history or anything) 20:41:07 [[Upsilon (Archived)]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82281&oldid=82280 * Rdococ * (+1) 20:43:12 [[User talk:Rdococ]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82282&oldid=69945 * Rdococ * (+357) /* Harp, Upsilon and Mindscrew */ 20:46:30 [[C()]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82283&oldid=78555 * Rdococ * (+465) 20:47:15 [[C()]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82284&oldid=82283 * Rdococ * (+39) 20:47:23 [[Branch (Johnki)]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82285&oldid=82261 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+35) Confusion, proper bold 20:47:50 [[Special:Log/move]] move * Rdococ * moved [[C()]] to [[C() (Archived)]] 20:47:55 [[Branch]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82288&oldid=82253 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+44) Confusion 20:48:02 [[Branch]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82289&oldid=82288 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (+0) Typeo 20:58:23 Do you have 8x8 graphics for PC code pages and PC-like code pages (other than the default one, which I already have)? 21:24:47 -!- Sgeo_ has joined. 21:28:28 -!- Sgeo has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 21:37:24 [[Zeno]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82290&oldid=79363 * Rdococ * (+278) Risen from the ground, like a phoenix with brain damage. 21:44:01 [[Zeno]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82291&oldid=82290 * Rdococ * (-92) Last edit was accidental, finished edit for now while I flesh out details 22:09:55 [[Zeno]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82292&oldid=82291 * Rdococ * (+798) Added example 22:14:50 [[Zeno]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82293&oldid=82292 * Rdococ * (+236) /* Examples */ 22:17:14 [[Zeno]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82294&oldid=82293 * Rdococ * (+303) 22:18:01 -!- TheLie has joined. 22:23:52 -!- LKoen has quit (Quit: “It’s only logical. First you learn to talk, then you learn to think. Too bad it’s not the other way round.”). 22:29:53 [[Zeno]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82295&oldid=82294 * Rdococ * (+95) /* Examples */ Improved Goldbach example 22:31:59 [[Zeno]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82296&oldid=82295 * Rdococ * (+51) /* Data types */ Added limitations to integer type 22:33:44 [[Zeno]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82297&oldid=82296 * Rdococ * (+13) /* Data types */ Added note about arrays 23:07:17 -!- xkapastel has joined. 23:09:19 [[User:Rdococ]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82298&oldid=78165 * Rdococ * (+60) 23:13:37 [[Surreal FOREVER loop]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82299&oldid=58230 * Rdococ * (-27) Removed reference to Zeno. It has been limited to machines that can only perform hyperreal computations, not absolutely infinite ones, and thus may not apply here. 23:14:32 [[Zeno]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82300&oldid=82297 * Rdococ * (+62) /* Data types */ 23:22:40 [[Subreal]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82301&oldid=82264 * RocketRace * (-2) What are invalid operations 23:24:14 [[Subreal]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82302&oldid=82301 * RocketRace * (+16) Wording in intro 23:28:25 [[Subreal]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82303&oldid=82302 * RocketRace * (+220) About --> Execution model 23:29:13 [[Subreal]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82304&oldid=82303 * RocketRace * (+33) Clarify + can't elide its argument 23:31:36 [[Subreal]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82305&oldid=82304 * RocketRace * (+196) The ~ operation 23:52:06 [[Subreal]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82306&oldid=82305 * RocketRace * (+1338) A comprehensive fault model for operations 23:52:30 [[Subreal]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82307&oldid=82306 * RocketRace * (+10) Faults header 23:54:34 [[Subreal]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82308&oldid=82307 * RocketRace * (+95) Change subprocess EOF behavior