< 1620691970 769557 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1620692231 763550 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1620693472 988237 :arseniiv_!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds > 1620694257 491936 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Trump bot 3 5* 10New user account > 1620694299 173173 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82846&oldid=82841 5* 03Trump bot 3 5* (+122) 10/* Introductions */ > 1620694345 679724 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:ColorfulGalaxy14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82847&oldid=81720 5* 03Trump bot 3 5* (-18) 10Nationality no longer exists < 1620695205 909702 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1620695483 862281 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1620695568 398625 :pikhq!sid394595@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ztksgwwvugpeintq PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION waves < 1620695746 431892 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1620695768 445167 :pikhq!sid394595@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ztksgwwvugpeintq PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1620698453 788203 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1620698711 882788 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds > 1620698823 285477 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:ColorfulGalaxy14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82848&oldid=82847 5* 03ColorfulGalaxy (disambiguation) 5* (+88) 10Undo revision 82847 by [[Special:Contributions/Trump bot 3|Trump bot 3]]) ([[User talk:Trump bot 3|talk]]) (Text might be offensive) (/* Tag */ Undo < 1620701052 930903 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1620701336 898996 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1620701920 978609 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN :#esoteric > 1620702103 100701 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:ColorfulGalaxy/Aheui alphabet14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=82849 5* 03Trump bot 3 5* (+411) 10Dath sntnce wrning > 1620702168 989141 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:ColorfulGalaxy14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82850&oldid=82848 5* 03Trump bot 3 5* (-34) 10I told you that the Chins nationality does not exist < 1620702192 995118 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds > 1620703030 162830 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Airline food14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82851&oldid=82396 5* 03Largejamie 5* (+4) 10 < 1620704149 430318 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-porhvditswtjxxbh QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity > 1620705197 695791 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 delete10 02 5* 03Ais523 5* 10deleted "[[02User:ColorfulGalaxy/Aheui alphabet10]]": created by blocked user while circumventing the block > 1620705291 710473 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User talk:Trump bot 314]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=82852 5* 03New Army 5* (+33) 10Created page with "What did you say on my talk page?" > 1620705293 991561 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Special:Log/block14]]4 block10 02 5* 03Ais523 5* 10blocked [[02User:Trump bot 310]] with an expiration time of indefinite (account creation disabled, email disabled): Abusing multiple accounts > 1620705331 534937 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:ColorfulGalaxy14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82853&oldid=82850 5* 03Ais523 5* (+34) 10Undo revision 82850 by [[Special:Contributions/Trump bot 3|Trump bot 3]] ([[User talk:Trump bot 3|talk]]) edit by blocked user circumventing the block > 1620705374 135538 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82854&oldid=82846 5* 03Ais523 5* (-122) 10Undo revision 82846 by 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416742 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1620717009 659666 :LKoen!~LKoen@156.168.9.109.rev.sfr.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1620717722 235841 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b9875e.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1620720480 420442 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1620720549 703190 :hendursa1!~weechat@gateway/tor-sasl/hendursaga QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1620720631 697538 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN :#esoteric > 1620720670 108044 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User talk:Ais52314]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82855&oldid=82657 5* 03ColorfulGalaxy 5* (+237) 10/* Euler's birthday is coming. */ < 1620720758 800780 :hendursa1!~weechat@gateway/tor-sasl/hendursaga JOIN :#esoteric > 1620720868 72023 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User talk:Ais52314]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82856&oldid=82855 5* 03ColorfulGalaxy 5* (+39) 10/* Euler's birthday is coming. */ > 1620721237 475029 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Esolang:Sandbox14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82857&oldid=82732 5* 03ColorfulGalaxy 5* (+30) 10From CoffeeHax's introduction < 1620721346 802934 :moony!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1620721455 224213 :moony!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony JOIN :#esoteric < 1620721608 387655 :moony!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony QUIT :Excess Flood < 1620721868 429624 :moony!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony JOIN :#esoteric > 1620722950 448556 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User:ColorfulGalaxy/Google mirror14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=82858 5* 03ColorfulGalaxy 5* (+1649) 10Not completed yet > 1620723067 880781 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07User talk:Heavpoot14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82859&oldid=81914 5* 03ColorfulGalaxy 5* (+235) 10/* Please help me with the tricks for my Google mirror simulator */ new section < 1620723512 967262 :sprock!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1620726368 761521 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-223.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, what is your favorite matrix norm? < 1620726368 997386 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: the commission' s position with regard to the first group consists of the only parties, along with the view that we would discuss this prior to voting. < 1620726389 215853 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-223.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is a reasonable position < 1620727058 797700 :ArthurStrong!~ArthurStr@178-133-213-147.mobile.vf-ua.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1620731410 647360 :arseniiv_!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru JOIN :#esoteric < 1620732575 515121 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1620733533 175000 :APic!apic@apic.name QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1620733561 854288 :APic!apic@apic.name JOIN :#esoteric < 1620733663 766827 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1620733822 179343 :LKoen!~LKoen@156.168.9.109.rev.sfr.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection > 1620734628 908511 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Cheese14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82860&oldid=82845 5* 03Sanscicondos 5* (-2) 10formatting > 1620734668 999387 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Cheese14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82861&oldid=82860 5* 03Sanscicondos 5* (+0) 10/* Versions */ < 1620735169 743782 :xelxebar!~xelxebar@gateway/tor-sasl/xelxebar QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1620735190 752960 :xelxebar!~xelxebar@gateway/tor-sasl/xelxebar JOIN :#esoteric > 1620735677 548643 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Cheese14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82862&oldid=82861 5* 03Sanscicondos 5* (-11) 10Removed vAlpha1.3 while not avaliable < 1620735959 747420 :ArthurStrong!~ArthurStr@178-133-213-147.mobile.vf-ua.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1620736007 609133 :ArthurStrong!~ArthurStr@46-133-195-164.mobile.vf-ua.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1620736359 620182 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that UZG...SIr string near the top of the sandbox page bothers me... is it meaningless or is it a base62 encoded message? https://esolangs.org/wiki/Esolang:Sandbox (unfortunately there does not seem to be any standard base62 format... a quick search has turned up two conventions for the digits already: 0-9A-Za-z and 0-9a-zA-Z) < 1620736423 415535 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course the whole sandbox page is weird, so whatever < 1620737115 424591 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 JOIN :#esoteric < 1620737193 141819 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1620737273 299196 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-223.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: has HackEso's coins predict dogecoin before it became popular, and if so, does that make HackEso a hipster? < 1620737273 646314 :fungot!~fungot@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/fungot PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: the berlin summit, which, unfortunately, but it is not possible, at this stage, europe' s fnord every month. i should now like to confine myself to six of the proposed amendments of the cerdeira fnord report are based on real facts. and everything else which has been strengthened and clarified to very positive effect by the european union < 1620737301 64458 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362 NICK :Lord_of_Life > 1620737845 702260 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Cheese14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82863&oldid=82862 5* 03Sanscicondos 5* (+107) 10Added usable starting tab to syntax < 1620738143 391249 :xkapastel!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jebgsafpndujiwtn JOIN :#esoteric < 1620738274 356615 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1620741103 355212 :dbohdan!dbohdan@unaffiliated/dbohdan JOIN :#esoteric < 1620741147 830942 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1620741401 771001 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1620741777 878880 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1620742891 20533 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins 10 < 1620742894 507689 :HackEso!~h@unaffiliated/fizzie/bot/hackeso PRIVMSG #esoteric :​02piggercoin 06litiecoin 13sulacoin 04bosotiacoin 07coveralcoin 08repremcoin 09nevicoin 02adhacoin 06eclamcoin 13mancoin < 1620743362 877818 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b9875e.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1620744141 221330 :LKoen!~LKoen@156.168.9.109.rev.sfr.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1620744820 296225 :sftp!~sftp@unaffiliated/sftp JOIN :#esoteric < 1620746188 634433 :imode!~imode@unaffiliated/imode JOIN :#esoteric < 1620749957 892432 :delta23!~deltaepsi@unaffiliated/deltaepsilon23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1620752541 378791 :LKoen!~LKoen@156.168.9.109.rev.sfr.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1620753148 985606 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1620753360 75569 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1620753612 962630 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1620754846 281867 :LKoen!~LKoen@156.168.9.109.rev.sfr.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1620755323 1634 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1620756233 598545 :cGIfl300!~dragonfly@vds202104a.cgifl300.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1620756242 524802 :cGIfl300!~dragonfly@vds202104a.cgifl300.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol, it exist :) < 1620758739 413569 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1620759531 523749 :cGIfl300!~dragonfly@vds202104a.cgifl300.com QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1620759926 968690 :aloril!~aloril@mobile-access-5d6af6-251.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1620760543 814381 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 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:ProofTechnique!sid79547@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hmamblixaqsfzazg JOIN :#esoteric < 1620764037 179360 :catern!~sbaugh@2604:2000:8fc0:b:a9c7:866a:bf36:3407 QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1620764131 621598 :catern-!~sbaugh@2604:2000:8fc0:b:a9c7:866a:bf36:3407 JOIN :#esoteric < 1620764224 492613 :Discordian[m]!discordi1@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-muqohyzejkwphfmv QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1620764224 602280 :none30!none30matr@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-fnogedvuouzwhpfw QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1620764302 601442 :LKoen!~LKoen@156.168.9.109.rev.sfr.net QUIT :Quit: “It’s only logical. First you learn to talk, then you learn to think. Too bad it’s not the other way round.” < 1620764663 644798 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1620765333 63240 :catern-!~sbaugh@2604:2000:8fc0:b:a9c7:866a:bf36:3407 NICK :catern < 1620765480 984453 :catern!~sbaugh@2604:2000:8fc0:b:a9c7:866a:bf36:3407 NICK :catern- < 1620765493 703688 :catern-!~sbaugh@2604:2000:8fc0:b:a9c7:866a:bf36:3407 NICK :catern < 1620765608 45550 :Discordian[m]!discordi1@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-fbgmxzkdoitazcdt JOIN :#esoteric < 1620765693 947743 :none30!none30matr@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-logbtojbsdozxosr JOIN :#esoteric < 1620765786 840697 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection > 1620766410 82246 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Airline food14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82864&oldid=82851 5* 03Largejamie 5* (+0) 10 < 1620766972 585646 :Discordian[m]!discordi1@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-fbgmxzkdoitazcdt QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1620767027 143522 :none30!none30matr@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-logbtojbsdozxosr QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1620768559 998411 :Discordian[m]!discordi1@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-rjesqsybzqipydwi JOIN :#esoteric < 1620768759 839546 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1620768786 821612 :sprock!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1620769146 373143 :none30!none30matr@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-lxaoubzimnryythm JOIN :#esoteric < 1620769243 864765 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas I use to listen the stream too, sometimes when I go sleep < 1620769281 945597 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also used to go sleep while listening to Red Alert 2 gameplay < 1620769378 435120 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have an idea that after some machine learning you can simulate it -- using game sound samples you can simulate the game, each stage of it < 1620769416 915067 :nakilon!~nakilon@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"ASMR gameplay sound simulator for fans" < 1620769768 83714 :delta23!~deltaepsi@unaffiliated/deltaepsilon23 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1620770251 407034 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :pfft: https://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2021-32471 < 1620770350 541235 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh. Just because it started with CVE-, I thought it would've been about that Wi-Fi thing that's been making the rounds recently. < 1620770364 690348 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a lot more on-brand for us though. < 1620770583 805932 :delta23!~deltaepsi@unaffiliated/deltaepsilon23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1620770585 516007 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't know they have CVE for Universal Turing Machine; well, now I know. < 1620770618 988342 :laerling!~laerling@unaffiliated/laerling NICK :[ < 1620770624 25598 :[!~laerling@unaffiliated/laerling NICK :laerling < 1620770997 286996 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-223.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: lol < 1620771027 327961 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-223.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a full article linked < 1620771051 69064 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah I'm actually reading that right now (though not in full detail) < 1620771330 182729 :TheLie!~TheLie@2a02:8106:215:3300:e7ad:5ab7:4ea0:e177 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1620771518 370505 :tromp!~tromp@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1620771539 941663 :ArthurStrong!~ArthurStr@46-133-195-164.mobile.vf-ua.net QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1620771831 810413 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, I did enjoy the phrases "cognitive complexity" and "so unquestionably saunters" :-) < 1620771916 956670 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the attack is of some minor theoretical concern... you have to be careful of invalid inputs when doing things like diagonalizing over all Turing machines. < 1620772055 135535 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And by "theoretical concern" I mean, of course, that it concerns people working in computability theory :-) ) < 1620772193 474446 :b_jonas!~a@catv-176-63-11-223.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :makes sense > 1620772794 63 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Slendi 5* 10New user account > 1620773024 112587 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82865&oldid=82854 5* 03Slendi 5* (+167) 10/* Introductions */ > 1620774679 817083 PRIVMSG #esoteric :14[[07Airline food14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=82866&oldid=82864 5* 03Largejamie 5* (-15) 10/* Computational Class */ < 1620774881 633760 :arseniiv_!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :recently I dabble several minutes to half a hour of lazy mental effort in hyperbolic geometry, again, and in esoteric parts of it < 1620774925 452770 :arseniiv_!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, how many ends a straight line has? Two, but beware an euclidean one has just a single one < 1620774928 240823 :arseniiv_!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru NICK :arseniiv < 1620775270 8954 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, what geometry is on the absolute? One may first think that the absolute is an artifact of models of this geometry, but when transforming the space, the absolute undergoes the same transformations regardless of a model which we use, be it one of circle models, a half-plane conformal model or maybe the best of all, hyperboloid-in-Minkowski-space model, in which case the absolute is the sky sphere or whatsitcalled. And in this last case < 1620775270 219225 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric : it’s obvious the cone is acted on by the same O⁺(1, n) group the hyperboloid and all the rest of Minkowski space areor, what geometry is on the absolute? One may first think that the absolute is an artifact of models of this geometry, but when transforming the space, the absolute undergoes the same transformations regardless of a model which we use, be it one of circle models, a half-plane conformal model or maybe the best of all, h < 1620775270 219285 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :yperboloid-in-Minkowski-space model, in which case the absolute is the sky sphere, a projectivization of the null cone (or light cone) < 1620775428 270298 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :and in this case it’s obvious the sky sphere (hm I’m afraid I remember its name wrong, but it’s definitely not a heavenly sphere) is not a stranger here: it’s acted on by the same O⁺(1, n) the rest of the Minkowski space is (including our beloved hyperboloid which we used to cut all other transformations out) < 1620775574 975358 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then look at the sky: it seems it’s changed by different hyperbolic transformations in different ways, I mean its own symmetry group is also the same O⁺(1, n) — as it seems. So what geometry is that? It’s not hyperbolic, this thing is compact < 1620775678 407373 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :it’s not euclidean either (we might think that based on it being an “apparent” limit of concentric/parallel horospheres, the other being their center/end; horospheres by themselves are euclidean) < 1620775813 716737 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :it’s not elliptic too, as there are too many symmetries. I bet a physicist will say something conformal something, though barring the case of 2D absolute where, as we know, there are too many conformal transformations (thanks to complex numbers IIRC), but maybe it should be called an inversive geometry or something?.. < 1620775977 508104 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :now, are there some remnants of metric structure left after all that? It had angles but they got garbled by lorentzian boosts. But something should have remained. Well I fear what remains is exactly that unfamous riemannian conformal structure, which means the riemannian metric upto (uniform) scalings < 1620775995 266663 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, I’m finished now! < 1620776009 804919 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hoped someone would find this reading interesting < 1620776019 469913 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION watches a bit of https://int-e.eu/~bf3/tmp/moebius8.html < 1620776111 410202 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e wow this is really watchable < 1620776114 571501 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it's called moebius because translations in that particular model of the hyperbolic plane are moebius transformations) < 1620776136 981266 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep yep when we lay that all in ℂ we get those! < 1620776457 415132 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :on that note, did you know they LIED to you in the kindergarten by naming both euclidean translations and hyperbolic translations the same word? They are totally different things! Horolations are the same as translations, and hyperbolic translations are this new element we get by lowering the curvature, analogous to how we get translations when we move to euclidean space from elliptic space where there are only rotations. And then rotati < 1620776457 564835 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :on groups stay the same all the way, likewise with euclidean translation groups which continue their life as horolation groups. And hyperbolic translations have very lonely one-dimensional existence. As soon as we combine two different ones, the group grows to include other types of transformations. Which is good but we were doing classification < 1620776537 269415 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like how I can sound crackpotish by saying all that and still it would be perfectly mathematical, just a bit obscure and special, and not too interesting or new to be discussed widely < 1620776598 305084 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I *like* to say that euclidean lines are one-ended. That’s, how to put it, rebel-y? hm not that < 1620776706 557336 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :arseniiv: I don't know what you just said. I do know that actually achieving the tiling was not nearly as pretty as it is in Euclidean space. < 1620776752 231223 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :also I like to call euclidean geometry names, namely “degenerate”, which it is because it’s parabolic, and more graphically, that group of its similarity transformations is bigger than its isometries, which for both other constant-curvature riemannian space types, is not so < 1620776779 254570 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: do you mean, numerically? I think yes there are problems which would crop up no matter how do you calculate < 1620776845 691093 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, if we are to use unbounded rationals, then they would grow too fast, I presume < 1620776910 98241 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well you can cheat in the margins :) < 1620776927 641508 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: did you use coordinates, and then which ones? Though now I think you meant achieving no harring gaps was a hard thing, and I agree it should be, probably < 1620776956 974050 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah margins are that thing, I heard some people cheating at them too, and also again perfectly reasonable < 1620777034 325734 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :arseniiv: My coordinates are complex numbers in the unit circle. And given a target point I'm just shifting it closer to the origin 17 times (magic number?) and everything too far away will be black, I think... < 1620777079 170771 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's a massive cheat :P < 1620777136 860236 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also did I tell that hyperbolic space is really scary? I seemed to manage to realize one pretty scary group as its isometries. The group where you wouldn’t return close to home if you make mistake in de-applying just one element. I don’t remember the definition exactly) < 1620777183 194944 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, yeah, I should have realized they are complex numbers, you plainly mentioned Möbius transformations before and I even nodded < 1620777259 870232 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://int-e.eu/~bf3/tmp/moebius8_3s.html is what I'd get with 3 instead of 17 steps... it's cut in its own way, I suppose < 1620777289 106531 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: how do you paint a pattern on the tiles, do you just slide a tile on some image or do you generate things in more complex ways? < 1620777374 460849 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it takes a sector out of https://int-e.eu/~bf3/tmp/moebius.png... and that sector is slowly rotating which results in the kaleidoscopic(sp?) effect < 1620777382 818277 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :moebius8_3s.html looks very strange. Now I know I imagined your algorithm a wrong way < 1620777412 393558 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :FWIW, it looks strange to me, too :P < 1620777421 937871 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: oh, just like that easy, whew < 1620777465 645798 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :may I draw an alternative circle for you later this day (when I’ve slept)? < 1620777482 377118 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :with more acidity < 1620777490 183423 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :or how it would be called < 1620777525 479873 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :arseniiv: you can copy the html file and play around with it yourself :) < 1620777539 525815 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, that easy < 1620777549 547972 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@95.105.1.73.dynamic.ufanet.ru PRIVMSG #esoteric :I definitely should < 1620777570 58948 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just loads a moebius.png file as a texture relative to its location