> 1622247212 282115 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Milk14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83583&oldid=83569 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+19) 10/* Implementations */ Total > 1622247426 314819 QUIT :and what does this button do then? < 1622247426 359458 :esolangs!~esolangs@techne.zem.fi QUIT :Quit: and what does this button do then? < 1622247444 95338 :esolangs!~esolangs@techne.zem.fi JOIN :#esolangs < 1622247444 129510 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services.libera.chat MODE #esolangs +v :esolangs > 1622249633 487355 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07DeBruijn14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83584&oldid=83582 5* 03S1(210) 5* (+2956) 10/* Feature Specification */ > 1622249787 48579 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07DeBruijn14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83585&oldid=83584 5* 03S1(210) 5* (+53) 10/* My own bad python interpreters */ > 1622249879 674511 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07DeBruijn14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83586&oldid=83585 5* 03S1(210) 5* (+124) 10/* Implementations */ > 1622249894 185274 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07DeBruijn14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83587&oldid=83586 5* 03S1(210) 5* (+1) 10/* Implementations */ > 1622250473 515085 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07DeBruijn14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83588&oldid=83587 5* 03S1(210) 5* (+30) 10/* Implementations */ > 1622250706 572294 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07DeBruijn14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83589&oldid=83588 5* 03S1(210) 5* (+24) 10/* Hello World */ > 1622250767 842721 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07DeBruijn14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83590&oldid=83589 5* 03S1(210) 5* (-15) 10/* Truth Machine */ < 1622251827 580665 :really3!~justafrie@c-73-149-231-106.hsd1.ma.comcast.net JOIN :#esolangs < 1622252104 650359 :really3!~justafrie@c-73-149-231-106.hsd1.ma.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds > 1622252203 237836 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07DeBruijn14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83591&oldid=83590 5* 03S1(210) 5* (+221) 10/* Feature Specification */ > 1622252273 419227 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07DeBruijn14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83592&oldid=83591 5* 03S1(210) 5* (+82) 10/* Overview */ > 1622252326 704507 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07DeBruijn14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83593&oldid=83592 5* 03S1(210) 5* (+0) 10/* Overview */ > 1622252902 913233 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Undefined behavior (language)14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83594&oldid=83543 5* 03Ais523 5* (+235) 10this is implemented, and has been since computers were invented > 1622253420 78076 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07DeBruijn14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83595&oldid=83593 5* 03S1(210) 5* (+150) 10/* My own python-based interpreter */ > 1622253445 494598 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07DeBruijn14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83596&oldid=83595 5* 03S1(210) 5* (-33) 10/* My own python-based interpreter */ > 1622254624 178361 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Computerdeutsch14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83597&oldid=77947 5* 03S1(210) 5* (-2) 10/* Type conversion */ schlich for floats means neutral, not feminine < 1622256342 94353 :salpynx!~salpynx@121.73.84.248 JOIN :#esolangs < 1622256596 466254 :salpynx!~salpynx@121.73.84.248 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Is there a (short) public domain/CC0 somewhat standard "Hello World!" for interactive fiction, for testing IF engines? < 1622256804 100241 :dyeplexer!~dyeplexer@user/dyeplexer JOIN :#esolangs < 1622258041 564895 :ffmct!~ffmct@62.182.99.245 JOIN :#esolangs < 1622258118 604668 :ircseeker!~ircseeker@62.182.99.245 JOIN :#esolangs < 1622258347 453542 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :I don't know. Can you elaborate about what you require, specifically? < 1622258482 680237 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 JOIN :#esolangs < 1622258495 929882 :salpynx!~salpynx@121.73.84.248 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I was looking for a simple recognisable scenario that could demonstrate a few branching choices, and at least one ending (possibly more), very simple but with more than one path. < 1622258514 790571 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1622258545 358837 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 NICK :Lord_of_Life < 1622258605 711316 :salpynx!~salpynx@121.73.84.248 PRIVMSG #esolangs :For an esolang idea that sub-TC, but could do a passable attempt at implementing IF style paths and end points < 1622258676 449177 :salpynx!~salpynx@121.73.84.248 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Correctly implementing a playable and recognisable scenario would be the proof that it works as intended, and can at least perform that function. < 1622258738 17237 :salpynx!~salpynx@121.73.84.248 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I could create my own scenario, but recreating an existing one seems more suitable for a proof of ability < 1622258817 307367 :salpynx!~salpynx@121.73.84.248 PRIVMSG #esolangs :basically being in a room with a desk and locked door, opening the drawer, getting the key and leaving the room to win would suffice. I feel like I have seen that < 1622259154 67761 :salpynx!~salpynx@121.73.84.248 PRIVMSG #esolangs :If interactive fiction has a Hello World or Lorem Ipsum, or whatever the term is, I'd want to use that. < 1622259190 731478 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-11-223.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :fungot, have you ever played the piano so fast that the limit becomes how slowly the keys return to their unpressed state after you release pressure on them? and if so, have you had the piano retuned to a scale that doesn't have all 12 notes in the octave but some notes duplicated? < 1622259190 818997 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::2 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: if you drop it for yourself. ( the leprechaun is not a number of people who said they had acquired stealth and craft, but with no greater success. < 1622259307 357365 :salpynx!~salpynx@121.73.84.248 PRIVMSG #esolangs :fungot, what is a simple IF scenario I could use to test an implementation (and what are your license terms)? < 1622259307 479824 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::2 PRIVMSG #esolangs :salpynx: a priest can get a genuine amulet of yendor: no one is quite sure which. and the caves of the flies" is a misery. < 1622259339 542476 :salpynx!~salpynx@121.73.84.248 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wow, that's pretty good. I was thinking it needed to start in a room or a cave. < 1622259359 760532 :salpynx!~salpynx@121.73.84.248 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I'm going to save that. < 1622259720 525323 :salpynx!~salpynx@121.73.84.248 PRIVMSG #esolangs :`` rev <<< Yendor < 1622259721 472006 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :rodneY < 1622259982 774029 :Ph0lk3r_!Ph0lk3r@user/ph0lk3r QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1622260035 977787 :salpynx!~salpynx@121.73.84.248 PRIVMSG #esolangs :^style < 1622260036 79438 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::2 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack* oots pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp ukparl youtube < 1622260217 794412 :Ph0lk3r_!Ph0lk3r@user/ph0lk3r JOIN :#esolangs < 1622260333 248484 :salpynx!~salpynx@121.73.84.248 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think Yendor, from Rogue, is PD. NetHack licensing seems more complicated. In the absence of a standard scenario, I might just run with Fungot's babble, and the Rogue reference will give it some recognisability, and is PD like I wanted. < 1622260421 699433 :salpynx!~salpynx@121.73.84.248 PRIVMSG #esolangs :`? Büchi < 1622260423 497539 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Büchi? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1622260986 785961 :ircseeker!~ircseeker@62.182.99.245 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1622261720 623227 :pikhq!sid394595@id-394595.highgate.irccloud.com QUIT :Changing host < 1622261720 623302 :pikhq!sid394595@user/pikhq JOIN :#esolangs < 1622261910 568271 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think that the idea of finding a key to open the door is good enough < 1622262274 346165 :salpynx!~salpynx@121.73.84.248 PRIVMSG #esolangs :qn2; is there a standard notation for a countably infinite alphabet, Σ? Σ denotes sets of words. Σ = {v0, v1, ...} I think expresses what I need, but is there a shorter or clearer form? < 1622263406 376005 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18b9875e.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Changing host < 1622263406 376059 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo JOIN :#esolangs < 1622263825 880975 :xkapastel!uid17782@id-17782.tinside.irccloud.com QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity > 1622263956 686211 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Moditape14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=83598 5* 03Mase 5* (+1964) 10Created page with "An esolang where you can modify the inital state of the circular, 16 value tape before the program is run. Contains brainfuck-like syntax, minus the loops. Because there are n..." > 1622264042 393076 PRIVMSG #esolangs : Testing > 1622264064 533117 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Moditape14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83599&oldid=83598 5* 03Nailuj29 5* (+3) 10 < 1622264081 307564 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :I wonder what would have happened if Sgeo[m] was already online < 1622264096 477101 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :Also really I should have just waited for Libera Chat to get the Matrix bridge > 1622264433 459798 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Moditape14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83600&oldid=83599 5* 03Aspwil 5* (+198) 10 > 1622264476 766463 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Moditape14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83601&oldid=83600 5* 03Aspwil 5* (+4) 10/* Hello World */ > 1622264550 100192 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Moditape14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83602&oldid=83601 5* 03Aspwil 5* (-15) 10/* Hello World */ > 1622264725 596071 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Moditape14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83603&oldid=83602 5* 03Mase 5* (+68) 10 > 1622264813 460989 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Moditape14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83604&oldid=83603 5* 03Aspwil 5* (+40) 10/* Hello World */ < 1622265022 95575 :salpynx!~salpynx@121.73.84.248 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds > 1622265037 263953 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Moditape14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83605&oldid=83604 5* 03Mase 5* (+316) 10 > 1622265059 995525 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Moditape14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83606&oldid=83605 5* 03Mase 5* (+0) 10 < 1622266997 555119 :ffmct!~ffmct@62.182.99.245 QUIT :Quit: Connection closed < 1622267090 404400 :simcop2387!~simcop238@2603-6080-3108-088d-18fc-1230-0f1a-2f6b.res6.spectrum.com NICK :accountabilibudd < 1622267139 901774 :accountabilibudd!~simcop238@2603-6080-3108-088d-18fc-1230-0f1a-2f6b.res6.spectrum.com NICK :simcop2387 > 1622268836 141812 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Moditape14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83607&oldid=83606 5* 03Mase 5* (-1140) 10 > 1622269317 95474 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Moditape14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83608&oldid=83607 5* 03Mase 5* (+0) 10 > 1622269829 522694 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Moditape14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83609&oldid=83608 5* 03Mase 5* (+0) 10 < 1622270911 785108 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :There are a whole bunch of mentions of Freenode on the wik < 1622270913 999269 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :wiki < 1622270920 754329 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 QUIT :Quit: Laa shay'a waqi'un moutlaq bale kouloun moumkine < 1622270955 735720 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 JOIN :#esolangs < 1622271632 95957 :tromp!~textual@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN :#esolangs > 1622272335 434610 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03TeamLightning 5* 10New user account < 1622272445 63432 :immibis!~immibis@62.156.144.218 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection > 1622272471 141321 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83610&oldid=83575 5* 03TeamLightning 5* (+183) 10/* Introductions */ > 1622272516 131277 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:TeamLightning14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=83611 5* 03TeamLightning 5* (+156) 10Created page with "Hey there, I'm TeamLightning and i write stuff in Python. --~~~~" < 1622273272 688674 :imode!~imode@user/imode QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds > 1622273946 434663 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07PainLang14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=83612 5* 03TeamLightning 5* (+2290) 10Created page with "==Overview== PainLang is basically [[Brainf***]] but written in and writes Python and has one less core command (7 excluding comments and debug). It was written by ~~~~ due to..." < 1622273952 714060 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.242.216 JOIN :#esolangs < 1622274018 940967 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.242.216 PRIVMSG #esolangs :!tell salpynx \mathbb{A} is sometimes used for a countably infinite set whose elements can be compared for equality (with two distinct elements being unequal) but have no other defined properties, that seems to fit what you're looking for > 1622274083 64110 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07PainLang14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83613&oldid=83612 5* 03TeamLightning 5* (+81) 10 < 1622274328 624070 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.242.216 PRIVMSG #esolangs :@tell salpynx \mathbb{A} is sometimes used for a countably infinite set whose elements can be compared for equality (with two distinct elements being unequal) but have no other defined properties, that seems to fit what you're looking for < 1622274328 699744 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esolangs :Consider it noted. < 1622274333 765467 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.242.216 QUIT :Quit: quit < 1622275289 630663 :salpynx!~salpynx@121.73.84.248 JOIN :#esolangs < 1622275443 925532 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :When making up a cryptographic hash algorithm, can it be helpful to compute also a secondary hash (perhaps with a different block size) and append that at the end of the message (as a part of the padding which also specifies the length of the message)? (The secondary hash also uses a different algorithm) < 1622275495 319914 :salpynx!~salpynx@121.73.84.248 PRIVMSG #esolangs :This might give me what I need for demonstrating choice : Choice of Plausible Alternatives (COPA) for AI research, BSD licensed: https://people.ict.usc.edu/~gordon/copa.html#:~:text=The%20Choice%20Of%20Plausible%20Alternatives,sets%20of%20500%20questions%20each. < 1622275519 551482 :salpynx!~salpynx@121.73.84.248 PRIVMSG #esolangs :found via an interactive fiction related paper: https://roemmele.github.io/publications/ICIDS17.pdf < 1622275782 458891 :hendursa1!~weechat@user/hendursaga JOIN :#esolangs < 1622275858 453876 :hendursaga!~weechat@user/hendursaga QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1622276191 624576 :salpynx!~salpynx@121.73.84.248 PRIVMSG #esolangs :`unidecode 𝔸 < 1622276193 42357 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :​[U+1D538 MATHEMATICAL DOUBLE-STRUCK CAPITAL A] > 1622276753 747823 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Wasif 5* 10New user account < 1622277421 607500 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :SWT displays only up to 41 buttons lol https://i.imgur.com/3K6b7qX.png < 1622277433 325744 :salpynx!~salpynx@121.73.84.248 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: thanks for the 𝔸 ( \mathbb{A} ) tip. It has me thinking that I do require an _ordered_ set (total rather than partial) and it seems alphabets in formal language theory ... don't care either way about ordering, which is interesting and something I hadn't thought about before. I'd assumed an alphabet was ordered, but ordered vs unordered < 1622277433 821738 :salpynx!~salpynx@121.73.84.248 PRIVMSG #esolangs :alphabets seem like quite different things. I'll look into that further. < 1622278458 823652 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1622279398 305269 :Thelie!~Thelie@2a02:8106:215:3300:e7ad:5ab7:4ea0:e177 JOIN :#esolangs < 1622279589 59385 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :currently in chrome when you select multiple tabs and right click it gives option "add to reading list" and "create new group" and I don't know what are these and why are they there < 1622279637 68961 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :but I'm definitely sure no one likes that they've removed the "create a bookmarks folder" from there > 1622280617 523297 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Wiki Cyclic Tag14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83614&oldid=8539 5* 03Salpynx 5* (+520) 10Relation to CSS TCness < 1622280698 96470 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.201.90 JOIN :#esolangs < 1622280927 328863 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.201.90 PRIVMSG #esolangs :hi < 1622281141 619081 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :hi < 1622281805 176523 :Thelie!~Thelie@2a02:8106:215:3300:e7ad:5ab7:4ea0:e177 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1622282128 77266 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://i.imgur.com/NUcyebv.png < 1622282232 627885 :river!~river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :lol < 1622282883 131041 :Noisytoot!noisytoot@sourcehut/user/noisytoot QUIT :Quit: ZNC 1.8.2 - https://znc.in < 1622282912 270640 :immibis!~immibis@62.156.144.218 JOIN :#esolangs < 1622282928 9011 :Noisytoot!noisytoot@sourcehut/user/noisytoot JOIN :#esolangs < 1622283359 404123 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :is brainfuck expanding the tape when needed both to left and right? < 1622283692 923684 :tromp!~textual@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl PRIVMSG #esolangs :that's implementation dependent < 1622283751 234634 :salpynx!~salpynx@121.73.84.248 PRIVMSG #esolangs :from the wiki page > Negative memory addresses should NOT be assumed to exist, however, an interpreter may provide some. (An optimising interpreter may be forced to) < 1622284040 126285 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :then I'll assume all basic examples of brainfuck don't use negative memory < 1622284060 595936 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :that would simplify my RASEL implementation of it < 1622284171 669562 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :higher address will be deeper in stack, otherwise I would need either to test for negativity to push and nulify the pointer or leak the memory like mad on every BF step in that direction < 1622284430 464440 :salpynx!~salpynx@121.73.84.248 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I had a recollection of there being a Hello World example that required negative cells, it's there on the wiki "by primo" from a codegolf.stackexchange. I think an implementation not supporting that is fine and is more standard. < 1622284480 137952 :salpynx!~salpynx@121.73.84.248 PRIVMSG #esolangs :^bf --<-<<+[+[<+>--->->->-<<<]>]<<--.<++++++.<<-..<<.<+.>>.>>.<<<.+++.>>.>>-.<<<+. < 1622284480 462751 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::2 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Hello, World! < 1622284525 19917 :salpynx!~salpynx@121.73.84.248 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I wasn't expecting that to work. < 1622284571 12843 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :is it using negatives? < 1622284600 89007 :salpynx!~salpynx@121.73.84.248 PRIVMSG #esolangs :still, just because fungot does something doesn't mean anyone else should. < 1622284600 190465 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::2 PRIVMSG #esolangs :salpynx: shopkeepers have incredible patience. she is usually depicted as wearing a ring of teleportation: it is the same tribunal in the dungeon. though not dangerous in and of laufey. loki is the property of fortune cookies, inc. < 1622284631 894468 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :^bf +[] < 1622284632 575377 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::2 PRIVMSG #esolangs : ...out of time! < 1622284633 26446 :salpynx!~salpynx@121.73.84.248 PRIVMSG #esolangs :the first three shifts are left shifts < 1622284651 949016 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh indeed < 1622284670 303382 :salpynx!~salpynx@121.73.84.248 PRIVMSG #esolangs :four shifts in fact < 1622284687 517087 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :^bf +[<+] < 1622284701 611743 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :fungot < 1622284701 858070 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::2 PRIVMSG #esolangs :nakilon: shopkeepers don't mind you bringing your pets in the struggle. perhaps the weasel knows the basilisk's deadly gaze, and commending himself most devoutly to his sister and maintained that she should impart the secrets of the waves he received by lot at the gaming board on the station every afternoon to wait for his powerful magic item hidden in a bag. < 1622284721 486737 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :hah, he failed to respond -- did it "crash"? < 1622285112 929483 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :It has a wrapping tape and wrapping cells, with pretty small limits, so that's technically an infinite loop. < 1622285122 813362 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :I would still have expected it to run out of time though. < 1622285140 328860 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think possibly 8-bit cells and a tape length of a 1000. < 1622285159 89124 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh so he did stop < 1622285172 549759 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :I sort of feel as if the original implementation used a wrapping (64k) tape too. < 1622285229 512381 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :^bf +[<+] --<-<<+[+[<+>--->->->-<<<]>]<<--.<++++++.<<-..<<.<+.>>.>>.<<<.+++.>>.>>-.<<<+. < 1622285230 156680 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::2 PRIVMSG #esolangs : < 1622285237 982947 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :okay < 1622285344 897110 :tromp!~textual@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl PRIVMSG #esolangs :if tape length 1000 is still considered a valid BF impl, then what's the minimum? < 1622285347 881497 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yeah, it's 1000 cells of 8 bits, and 1000000 steps of execution. I guess that's just barely enough for +[<+] to increment all of them enough that one wraps over. < 1622285379 905673 :tromp!~textual@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl PRIVMSG #esolangs :surely tape length 1 would be considered too little (does simplify shifting though:-) < 1622285424 320232 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :A three-cell tape is famously enough to be TC, as log as the values are unbounded. < 1622285449 983962 :tech_exorcist!~tech_exor@de1.hashbang.sh JOIN :#esolangs < 1622285473 319402 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :s/log/long/ < 1622285596 418515 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :256k per 4 instruction had to be more than 1mln limit < 1622285618 560103 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :The loop is only 3 instructions, the way it counts them. < 1622285628 847998 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :<, + and ], which jumps back to the <. < 1622285678 948568 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :^bf +[<+<>] < 1622285679 717166 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::2 PRIVMSG #esolangs : ...out of time! < 1622285690 175662 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :That would be too much though. < 1622285726 733789 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :I remembered the limit as being 100k instead of 1M, but I probably bumped it up because there was something interesting that didn't quite run. < 1622285762 889430 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :(Also, +++++ would be a single instruction in terms of that limit.) < 1622285793 400052 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :^bf +[<+-+] < 1622285794 208215 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::2 PRIVMSG #esolangs : ...out of time! < 1622285870 681587 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :^bf +[+.] < 1622285870 815308 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::2 PRIVMSG #esolangs : . . !"#$%&'()*+,-./0123456789:;<=>?@ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ[\]^_`abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz{|}~ ... < 1622285883 356299 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :rip your logs < 1622285909 367154 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :It's certainly not the first "all bytes" message we've had. < 1622285915 574949 :immibis!~immibis@62.156.144.218 PRIVMSG #esolangs :at least it strips \r and \n and prevents command injection < 1622285924 21681 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :^bf +[+.] +[+.] +[+.] +[+.] +[+.] +[+.] +[+.] +[+.] I wonder about max length < 1622285924 128610 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::2 PRIVMSG #esolangs : . . !"#$%&'()*+,-./0123456789:;<=>?@ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ[\]^_`abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz{|}~ ... < 1622285928 382505 :immibis!~immibis@62.156.144.218 PRIVMSG #esolangs :for some reason \x16 seems to make the rest of the message inverted colours for me < 1622285957 97033 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yeah, ^V does that quite often. < 1622285960 945740 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :It's also underlined for me. < 1622285987 45485 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://i.imgur.com/TomV619.png < 1622285991 308653 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :from the ^_ control character < 1622285992 654000 :immibis!~immibis@62.156.144.218 PRIVMSG #esolangs :^bf ++++++++++++++++.[-]--<-<<+[+[<+>--->->->-<<<]>]<<--.<++++++.<<-..<<.<+.>>.>>.<<<.+++.>>.>>-.<<<+. < 1622285992 981105 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::2 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Hello, World! < 1622285999 32650 :immibis!~immibis@62.156.144.218 PRIVMSG #esolangs :^bf ++++++++++++++++++++++.[-]--<-<<+[+[<+>--->->->-<<<]>]<<--.<++++++.<<-..<<.<+.>>.>>.<<<.+++.>>.>>-.<<<+. < 1622285999 366190 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::2 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Hello, World! < 1622286025 554782 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Heh, I didn't remember implementing strikethrough formatting in the HTML converter. < 1622286145 389564 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Potentially I should also convert invalid UTF-8 to U+FFFD in the prettified formats. But then someone'd complain it's not true to the original. < 1622286200 423931 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :^def tmp bf +++---+++ < 1622286200 505050 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::2 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Defined. < 1622286202 487408 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :^show tmp < 1622286202 563997 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::2 PRIVMSG #esolangs :+3-3+3 < 1622286245 78383 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :I've no idea why I didn't fold consecutive arbitrary sequences of +-s and <>s together, rather than just doing the per-instruction-type run-length encoding. < 1622286342 288838 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :I guess maybe that's just because that's something the programmer can already do on their side. < 1622286503 790062 :salpynx!~salpynx@121.73.84.248 PRIVMSG #esolangs :all of the bots here handle that negative cell example, F*ngot, HackEso, and lambdabot < 1622286537 806814 :salpynx!~salpynx@121.73.84.248 PRIVMSG #esolangs :@bf --<-<<+[+[<+>--->->->-<<<]>]<<--.<++++++.<<-..<<.<+.>>.>>.<<<.+++.>>.>>-.<<<+. < 1622286537 883422 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esolangs : Hello, World! < 1622286546 885170 :salpynx!~salpynx@121.73.84.248 PRIVMSG #esolangs :`! bf --<-<<+[+[<+>--->->->-<<<]>]<<--.<++++++.<<-..<<.<+.>>.>>.<<<.+++.>>.>>-.<<<+. < 1622286547 708460 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Hello, World! < 1622286605 498457 :salpynx!~salpynx@121.73.84.248 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I was hoping to see the output of that code where the left shifts couldn't work < 1622286669 646043 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :I feel like usually if < off the left edge is not allowed, it just terminates the program. < 1622286990 245315 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie so if fungot translating the bf to befunge? < 1622286990 368056 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::2 PRIVMSG #esolangs :nakilon: hu*h*eto*l, minion of huhetotl: huehuetotl, or ettin, is a spotted red. the streets were broken and the four men, of golden daffodils; beside the lake now lives in a clear cold voice. ' behold, i go to my profession. ( the colour of magic, by diana wynne jones) < 1622286994 600072 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :*is < 1622287010 596755 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :and the translator is implemented in befunge? < 1622287015 884170 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Not really, no. It just translates into an intermediate bytecode. < 1622287044 97203 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :ACTION changed nickname to huehuetotl < 1622287071 359232 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :There's a parser that goes from the source representation to that, and then an interpreter that runs it; ^bf does both, while ^def bf ... just does the first step and leaves the second when you invoke the defined command. < 1622287086 837376 :salpynx!~salpynx@121.73.84.248 PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://copy.sh/brainfuck has 3 memory overflow behaviours: undefined (fast), wrap, abort. Undefined gives garbage output, wrap works, abort gives a sensible warning and terminates, as you said. < 1622287141 442906 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :^def tmp bf +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ < 1622287141 527112 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::2 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Defined. < 1622287145 443107 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :^show tmp < 1622287145 521978 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::2 PRIVMSG #esolangs :+ < 1622287165 57854 :salpynx!~salpynx@121.73.84.248 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Ah, I had assumed / hoped fungot's interpreter was implemented in befunge < 1622287165 171237 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::2 PRIVMSG #esolangs :salpynx: latest news? put `rec.games.roguelike.nethack' in the cracks and it seemed to him asked, " hey guys, *wield* a lizard, which one's real? xander: no one knows why this is true, but it was light enough to enter, and the wolf did not take place, perhaps it was overheard or repeated by an exploding tin. < 1622287168 197829 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Also wrapped that % 256, because the cells do. < 1622287172 78272 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :salpynx: It is, yes. < 1622287243 847360 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Approximately lines 355-376 (brainfuck source to that bytecode format) and 298-310 (bytecode interpreter) of https://github.com/fis/fungot/blob/master/fungot.b98 if you want to see them. < 1622287243 937216 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::2 PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie: chromatic dragon, cut her body in two. the food with his claws and poison sting. < 1622287289 109656 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Likewise for ^ul, the Underload interpreter, except there the intermediate format is pretty much the same as the source text. < 1622287295 501075 :salpynx!~salpynx@121.73.84.248 PRIVMSG #esolangs :^def tmp2 bf --<-<< < 1622287295 571338 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::2 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Defined. < 1622287301 433384 :salpynx!~salpynx@121.73.84.248 PRIVMSG #esolangs :^show tmp2 < 1622287301 510174 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::2 PRIVMSG #esolangs :-2<-<2 < 1622287333 865392 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :I had a standalone "development" version of at least the underload one, but I don't think I've got a copy of the bf one not embedded in the bot. < 1622287398 672167 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :I feel like -2 is "really" a +254 and I just disambiguate when printing, maybe. < 1622287413 85064 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :^def tmp bf ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ < 1622287413 172406 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::2 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Defined. < 1622287417 149631 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :^show tmp < 1622287417 235809 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::2 PRIVMSG #esolangs :-2 < 1622287419 579234 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yep. < 1622287469 790482 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :There's six instructions in the bytecode, and it's actually documented in the comments, lines 438-446. < 1622287493 22564 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Well, seven if you count the marker at the end. < 1622287595 39754 :tromp!~textual@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1622287644 655057 :salpynx!~salpynx@121.73.84.248 PRIVMSG #esolangs :^def tmp2 bf [-][+]+ < 1622287644 732165 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::2 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Defined. < 1622287653 218587 :salpynx!~salpynx@121.73.84.248 PRIVMSG #esolangs :^show tmp2 < 1622287653 316797 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::2 PRIVMSG #esolangs :[-][+]+ < 1622287663 949123 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yeah, no, it's not a proper optimizing thing. < 1622287671 478504 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :I don't even have a "set value" opcode. < 1622287872 849207 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :^ul ((Underload, the language of easy quines)!aS(^:)S):^ < 1622287872 926497 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::2 PRIVMSG #esolangs :((Underload, the language of easy quines)!aS(^:)S)^: < 1622287897 400944 :salpynx!~salpynx@121.73.84.248 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think I misunderstood "Not really, no. It just translates into an intermediate bytecode." < 1622287925 877918 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yeah, that was an answer to the "is it translating the bf into a befunge" question, not the "is it implemented in befunge" one. < 1622287972 275457 :immibis!~immibis@62.156.144.218 PRIVMSG #esolangs :cat has easier quines < 1622287977 654929 :immibis!~immibis@62.156.144.218 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but it's not turing-complete < 1622287982 350972 :salpynx!~salpynx@121.73.84.248 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Right, so there is a befunge bf interpreter in fungot, but it doesn't work by translating bf -> befunge < 1622287982 436974 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::2 PRIVMSG #esolangs :salpynx: a katana might slice a worm in two. the waves to the carpet, where his eye. they are the devil's work. < 1622287988 858504 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :$ echo "-" | ruby bf_translator.rasel < 1622287988 989085 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs ::03--::\1-1\1-\$@ < 1622287995 887208 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :..\ < 1622288074 902371 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :The Brainfuck-on-Befunge-98 and Underload-on-Befunge-98 X's on https://esolangs.org/wiki/EsoInterpreters link to our bot's source code. Hmm, maybe they should link to its wiki page instead. < 1622288090 740252 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Also, I don't think that style works too well, let's stick with the standard. < 1622288094 198214 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :^style irc < 1622288094 274551 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::2 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Selected style: irc (IRC logs of freenode/#esoteric, freenode/#scheme and ircnet/#douglasadams) > 1622288230 24626 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang:Community portal14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83615&oldid=83522 5* 03B jonas 5* (-154) 10make the move to libera/#esolangs almost official > 1622288260 489780 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07EsoInterpreters14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83616&oldid=82808 5* 03Fizzie 5* (-88) 10/* Main table */ Link to wiki article instead of directly to source. < 1622288344 274411 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :does the amount of letters in table cell mean an amount of different implementations? < 1622288359 55010 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh those are links > 1622288557 736266 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolangs (irc)14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=83617 5* 03B jonas 5* (+859) 10Created page with "'''esolangs''' is an IRC bot maintained by fizzie that supports the official esoteric languages community IRC discussion channel. It usually uses the nick "esolangs" on the l..." > 1622288589 176277 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esowiki14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=83618 5* 03B jonas 5* (+28) 10Redirected page to [[Esolangs (irc)]] < 1622288602 960305 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :what does "Part of cycle" mean? > 1622288603 401235 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang:Community portal14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83619&oldid=83615 5* 03B jonas 5* (+25) 10 < 1622288719 797063 :salpynx!~salpynx@121.73.84.248 PRIVMSG #esolangs :fungot: ▬▬ι═══════ﺤ 🪱②.♒ 䋬 ,👁.😈J. < 1622288719 949809 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::2 PRIVMSG #esolangs :salpynx: it's been ages since i have done < 1622288721 45334 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think it's used just by the Bub/Brainfuck pair, but it's supposed to denote a case where you can build an arbitrarily long thing out of X-on-Y-on-X-on-Y-on-..., or A-on-B-on-C-on-A-on-... > 1622288721 213927 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Velik14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=83620 5* 03B jonas 5* (+249) 10Created page with "'''velik''' is an IRC bot maintained by [[User:Nakilon]] that evaluates the [[RASEL]] fungeoid language. It was created in 2021-05. It is resident on the libera/#esolangs ch..." < 1622288750 195363 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :I don't think the table's rich enough to show all the possible cycles though. < 1622288782 129114 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Someone could take that as an adjacency matrix of a DAG and convert it into a graph though. < 1622288948 599501 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :_^^ < 1622288989 450370 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-11-223.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :salpynx: I'd say use one of those mazes made of six rooms where every room has an indistinguishable description, each one has exits in eight cardinal directions, one of which takes you to the next room and eight takes you back to the very first room, the player has three or four objects that they can drop or take to figure out where they are, and you win after the correct exit of the last room which < 1622288995 456661 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-11-223.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :goes outdoors. > 1622289022 379001 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolangs (irc)14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83621&oldid=83617 5* 03Fizzie 5* (+80) 10Add source link < 1622289259 401570 :salpynx!~salpynx@121.73.84.248 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: Those mazes are annoying, and familiar, and that's a good idea. I think that will challenge what I have in mind, so is a good test case, thanks! < 1622289652 490221 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :heh https://dpaste.org/oRzr/slim < 1622289716 281592 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh idk why the extension is rasel, that's a mistake, should be rb < 1622289732 99420 :tromp!~textual@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN :#esolangs > 1622289773 659895 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Epidemic7 5* 10New user account < 1622289797 179829 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Oh, that reminds me, I need to restart that to fix a tiny little logging bug. < 1622289811 98644 :esolangs!~esolangs@techne.zem.fi JOIN :#esolangs < 1622289811 301261 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services.libera.chat MODE #esolangs +v :esolangs < 1622289829 707435 :salpynx!~salpynx@121.73.84.248 PRIVMSG #esolangs :.rb could be confused with Ruby < 1622289884 352668 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :really? < 1622290045 712870 :salpynx!~salpynx@121.73.84.248 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh wait, that code is ruby I thought the RASEL extension was .rb , ignore that > 1622290108 475868 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83622&oldid=83610 5* 03Epidemic7 5* (+209) 10/* Introductions */ < 1622290230 543416 :salpynx!~salpynx@121.73.84.248 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I had been keeping brainfuck and befunge extensions separate in my head, handling another pair of languages starting with the same letter (r) clearly broke me. < 1622290373 551091 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :there was .rbw for wxWidgets apps years ago, then .rbi for idk what, now .srb for static type annotation files < 1622290389 695635 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :pretty sure that's only a half of the zoo > 1622290613 476643 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Epidemic714]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=83623 5* 03Epidemic7 5* (+297) 10Created page with "Hello, I'm Epidemic7 / Epidem7c / EHGDTPSTLA. (Don't ask about the last one, it's a acronym and a long story.) I like making esolangs that are: One Dimensional Data Tape Styl..." > 1622290685 559389 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Epidemic714]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83624&oldid=83623 5* 03Epidemic7 5* (+36) 10 < 1622290735 732174 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :salpynx you forgot the stringmode instruction ..D < 1622291019 744623 :salpynx!~salpynx@121.73.84.248 PRIVMSG #esolangs :\rasel Z:::+,++,@ < 1622291020 931276 :velik!~velik@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :output: "", exit code: 255 < 1622291055 797898 :salpynx!~salpynx@121.73.84.248 PRIVMSG #esolangs :nakilon: I was trying to use the base36 numbers to set ASCII, why didn't that work? < 1622291086 382022 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :you probably want : before , < 1622291101 685754 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :at least before the first one < 1622291116 152666 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :\rasel Z:::+:,++,@ < 1622291117 406409 :velik!~velik@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :output: "", exit code: 255 < 1622291120 117238 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :hm < 1622291161 51798 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Oh, https://esolangs.org/wiki/PSOX was that thing I was thinking of when we had that discussion the other day about whether it's cheating to use netcat/socat when doing an IRC bot in an esolang that does only stdin/out. < 1622291165 67905 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :I still don't think it's cheating, but PSOX would arguably be a more esoteric way of going about it. < 1622291196 338677 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh < 1622291207 240296 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :salpynx there is no "+" in RASEL ..D < 1622291210 945604 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :only "-" < 1622291236 89444 :salpynx!~salpynx@121.73.84.248 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I've off-by-one errored in my attempt, which is frustratingly annoying, because if Z = 36, "Hi" would be easy to output < 1622291253 476550 :salpynx!~salpynx@121.73.84.248 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ah -- my second mistake! < 1622291285 306024 :salpynx!~salpynx@121.73.84.248 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I honestly thought it was some wiki quoting thing that swallowed the + char < 1622291430 958186 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-11-223.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :\rasel 918//,L15//,0@ < 1622291439 91890 :velik!~velik@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :output: "Hi", exit code: 0 < 1622291479 828018 :salpynx!~salpynx@121.73.84.248 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh, you beat me, that's what I was just working towards :P < 1622291509 977685 :salpynx!~salpynx@121.73.84.248 PRIVMSG #esolangs :was just trying to get the correct sequence of divisions < 1622291531 17050 :salpynx!~salpynx@121.73.84.248 PRIVMSG #esolangs :nice though :) < 1622291612 15176 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :\rasel L15//:v-,,0@ < 1622291670 311089 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :not sure why it timed out < 1622291693 333988 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :ah, sure < 1622291696 918089 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :\rasel L15//:V-,,0@ < 1622291700 148721 :velik!~velik@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :output: "Ji", exit code: 0 < 1622291711 335833 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :\rasel L15//:X-,,0@ < 1622291712 535898 :velik!~velik@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :output: "Hi", exit code: 0 < 1622291727 263274 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :\rasel L15//:X-,,@ < 1622291732 681322 :velik!~velik@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :output: "Hi", exit code: 0 > 1622291964 750022 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Marius is taken 5* 10New user account < 1622292208 715026 :tromp!~textual@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1622292465 777859 :tromp!~textual@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN :#esolangs < 1622293300 106037 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs : when ?> ; append.call "01--" < 1622293300 236906 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs : when ?< ; append.call "1-:01--?@" < 1622293321 861196 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :this is basically the safe "<" < 1622293372 634429 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :it calls @ with negative on the top of the stack so exits with code 255 < 1622293396 103075 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :now the hardest part: ], [ < 1622293548 79263 :salpynx!~salpynx@121.73.84.248 PRIVMSG #esolangs :\rasel HI::/\15//D-,16//3-,0@ < 1622293549 253874 :velik!~velik@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :output: "Hi", exit code: 0 < 1622293615 231109 :salpynx!~salpynx@121.73.84.248 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I'm too tired to optimise that further, not sure if there's a way to input 2d source < 1622293624 321202 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :isn't ::/ same as 1 ? < 1622293661 194370 :salpynx!~salpynx@121.73.84.248 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yes, but I wanted to delimit the initial HI from the rest of the code as much as possible < 1622293671 522851 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :yeah, there is no way to input 2d source but you can use '?' and 'j' to make a one-liner < 1622293688 785926 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :you could use spaces < 1622293773 1076 :salpynx!~salpynx@121.73.84.248 PRIVMSG #esolangs :For some reason the feature that appeals to me most is the ability to avoid string mode completely, and just use b36. The lack of + and * was an unexpected challenge :) < 1622293804 654820 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :all as planned < 1622293910 971910 :salpynx!~salpynx@121.73.84.248 PRIVMSG #esolangs :also non-wrapping cells meant I addition can't be done with -, and non-integer cells and no ability (AFAICT) to round down to integers for character output was another fun obstacle < 1622294001 861820 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :didn't understand the first part < 1622294034 164090 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :but you might be able to floor by :1%- < 1622294537 129124 :salpynx!~salpynx@121.73.84.248 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yes < 1622294538 903205 :salpynx!~salpynx@121.73.84.248 PRIVMSG #esolangs :\rasel H4H//::.1%-,0@ < 1622294540 92883 :velik!~velik@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :output: "72.25 H", exit code: 0 < 1622294566 52944 :salpynx!~salpynx@121.73.84.248 PRIVMSG #esolangs :vs an exit code 255 trying to output 72.25 as a character < 1622294766 528056 :xkapastel!uid17782@id-17782.tinside.irccloud.com JOIN :#esolangs < 1622296001 184160 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-11-223.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :nakilon: what? I thought you added a way to input 2d source by adding some character that is a synonym to the newline < 1622296034 926739 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas that was only an idea < 1622296057 227692 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-11-223.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :\rasel Z,@ < 1622296058 352177 :velik!~velik@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :output: "#", exit code: 0 < 1622296070 483284 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-11-223.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :\rasel v>Z,@¶>^ < 1622296163 867462 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :timeout < 1622296190 137550 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh you mean that's a character? ..D < 1622296302 854517 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-11-223.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :not necessarily < 1622296310 434406 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-11-223.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :you could pick a different character < 1622296315 341058 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-11-223.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :that's just an example < 1622296487 657635 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-11-223.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I mean you're defining this language, so you're picking the specific syntax < 1622296515 977865 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-11-223.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :you've already picked it for the other new instructions like the new swappeek or whatever that's called < 1622296522 951724 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-11-223.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :swappick < 1622296536 327644 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-11-223.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :swappeek would be for memory addresses, this is for the data stack < 1622296606 366065 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :"defining this language" -- not the language though but a bot interface but yeah, I'll probably go with the same how I made -stdin < 1622296624 953231 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :at least not swapdick < 1622296626 219870 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :swapn < 1622296643 888179 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-11-223.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :why? why would you put that feature only in the bot interface rather than the language? < 1622296653 29078 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-11-223.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :that would just make incompatible versions of your language for no good reason < 1622296685 941444 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-11-223.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :unless you, like, expect that good mnemonic characters as instruction names will be scarce or something < 1622296724 794939 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :are there any fungeoids that have a special "one-liner conversion syntax" < 1622296771 433632 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :the line break character is already defined and it's \n, it's just IRC's "fault" it can't handle it < 1622296775 993611 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-11-223.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I refuse, it's not "special syntax" because newlines aren't special, it's just multiple equivalent characters < 1622296783 955394 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :some multiline chat would do < 1622296813 602048 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-11-223.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :no, IRC uses that character for something else of significance, and for something useful too, unlike \r and \x00 which it just reserves for not much reason < 1622296902 178972 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-11-223.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :you could say that it's IRC's fault, but python's current syntax is inconvenient in contexts other than IRC too, exactly because it requires newlines, so it's hard to say a short python program in-line in a paragraph of text, on a webpage or printed book < 1622296917 615011 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :how do other bots here implement multiline? < 1622296922 912586 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-11-223.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :we can fix that in python, I have an idea that I should perhaps implement, though the hard part is not implementing it but documenting it properly < 1622296930 973410 :salpynx!~salpynx@121.73.84.248 PRIVMSG #esolangs :\rasel 91D//:1-:5-:1-:7-:1-,4\,,2\,1\,,@ < 1622296933 144092 :velik!~velik@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :output: "fungot", exit code: 0 < 1622296946 912602 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :ruby also judges ";" the same as "\n" < 1622296959 491240 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-11-223.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :nakilon: not quite the same, but you can program ruby without newlines < 1622296959 934564 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :..D < 1622297007 298262 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-11-223.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :the same can be said about javascript and haskell, and there are evaluation bots for both on freenode < 1622297033 186258 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-11-223.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :brainfuck and underload in fungot just require trivial substitutions < 1622297033 421689 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::2 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: swap x with y is always equal to whatever x is equal to < 1622297047 783301 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :salpynx hah, you built the array monotoneous and then traversed it in another order, right? < 1622297058 865605 :salpynx!~salpynx@121.73.84.248 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yup < 1622297066 447671 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-11-223.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :and perlbot lets you use compose to pass any string that you generate from any command as argument any other command, so that way you can pass newlines: < 1622297179 262959 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-11-223.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :perlbot compose @eval @eval qq|for (65..90) {\n\t$c .= chr;\n}\nprint $c|`` < 1622297181 834266 :perlbot!~perlbot@2603-6080-3108-088d-18fc-1230-0f1a-2f6b.res6.spectrum.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: ERROR: syntax error at (IRC) line 2, near ".=" < 1622297190 73308 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-11-223.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :perlbot compose @eval @eval qq|for (65..90) {\n\t\$c .= chr;\n}\nprint \$c|`` < 1622297192 629228 :perlbot!~perlbot@2603-6080-3108-088d-18fc-1230-0f1a-2f6b.res6.spectrum.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ < 1622297210 591987 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-11-223.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :the inner eval prints a perl program that contains newlines, the outer eval interprets that perl program < 1622297226 404956 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-11-223.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :of course perl doesn't care too much about newlines so this particular example is silly, but still < 1622297244 279730 :simcop2387!~simcop238@2603-6080-3108-088d-18fc-1230-0f1a-2f6b.res6.spectrum.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :but it does lead to monstrosities like the tempconv factoid < 1622297250 346611 :simcop2387!~simcop238@2603-6080-3108-088d-18fc-1230-0f1a-2f6b.res6.spectrum.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :perlbot: literal tempconv < 1622297250 511593 :perlbot!~perlbot@2603-6080-3108-088d-18fc-1230-0f1a-2f6b.res6.spectrum.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :simcop2387: <*:##NULL> P:macro tempconv is `eval %f=(`fact _tempconv_units!);`fact _tempconv_newton!;`fact _tempconv_init!;$in=`quote d `arg!!;if($in=~/(?[\-+]?\d+(?:\.\d+)?(?:ee?[\-+]?\d+)?)(?:\s*°)?\s*(?$ur)/i){($v,$u)=@+{v,u};$c=$f2{fc$u}->($v);join" = ",map{$q=d($_);(eval{inv($f2{$q},$c)}//"UND ").$_}sort{d($a)cmp d($b)} keys%f}else{"Not supported, use ".join(", ",sort{d($a)cmp d($b)}keys%f)}! < 1622297259 551211 :simcop2387!~simcop238@2603-6080-3108-088d-18fc-1230-0f1a-2f6b.res6.spectrum.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :perlbot: tempconv 27C < 1622297261 80930 :perlbot!~perlbot@2603-6080-3108-088d-18fc-1230-0f1a-2f6b.res6.spectrum.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :simcop2387: 27.00°C = 109.50°D = 80.60°F = 4.56e-03GM = 300.15K = 8.91°N = 540.27R = 21.60°Ré = 21.68°Rø = 53.80°€ < 1622297282 31615 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-11-223.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :the general idea of unquoting things with eval can be useful when programming perlbot < 1622297325 600813 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-11-223.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :it's an esoteric invention that I'm proud of < 1622297334 462431 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-11-223.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I should actually mention it on the wiki userpage > 1622297359 364801 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:B jonas14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83625&oldid=76586 5* 03B jonas 5* (+28) 10 < 1622297424 440717 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas compose is bot's command, not perl's, right? < 1622297463 6966 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-11-223.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :nakilon: yes < 1622297492 517244 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :but you advice me to put it into the language implementation rather than bot xyntax < 1622297494 550946 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :*s < 1622297506 639650 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :*specification < 1622297575 24182 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-11-223.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :the five commands, compose quote eval fact arg, together turn out to be universal in a sense, they together let you run any program that can invoke any sequence of buubot commands, store state, decisions between them, and define macros that can do that when invoked < 1622297632 504154 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :\help rasel < 1622297632 696745 :velik!~velik@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :\rasel ; \rasel -stdin ; don't forget the '@' instruction or it will timeout; timelimit=30s; https://esolangs.org/wiki/RASEL < 1622297675 380590 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-11-223.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :nakilon: yes, sandbox technology was basic back then, so we couldn't have easily changed the sandbox of the eval command that runs a perl interpreter to be able to invoke buubot commands. and even if we could make it invoke buubot commands, that would be less esoteric and easier to program than this horrible mess. < 1622297690 132783 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :I don't see a reason not to implement it as a \rasel -n[,...] < 1622297720 287450 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-11-223.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :nakilon: but note that the characters that IRC don't allow aren't really useful in a perl program. at best they can help encode string literals that have those characters, or heredocs. < 1622297736 401305 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :also considering that "n" isn't a valid RASEL instruction and so raises the error so the "-n" clearly reads as "aha, it's a bot flag" < 1622297743 214538 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-11-223.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :if the main interpreter was a language that needed newlines, we would probably have done something about that < 1622297780 802757 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-11-223.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :or... maybe not? < 1622297794 298914 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-11-223.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I mean we had a jeval there at some point (that's also my fault) and it only accepted a single line < 1622297797 304657 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-11-223.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :hmm < 1622297884 174672 :tromp!~textual@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1622297942 175452 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :the only [a-z] instruction is "j" < 1622297948 747839 :tromp!~textual@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN :#esolangs < 1622297959 293557 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :though maybe if it's the only one maybe it should be changed to some other char too < 1622297994 294331 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :that would even allow lowercase base36 for some reason < 1622298035 620549 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :ah, nope, the "v" < 1622298703 377157 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :`which xxd < 1622298704 934796 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :No output. < 1622298806 109313 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-11-223.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :no, you should reserve the other lowercase stuff for future extensions < 1622298895 738477 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-11-223.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :like use a-g to load and push seven named numeric registers, and k-q to pop store to them < 1622298904 80522 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-11-223.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :or whatever else you want to add < 1622298948 596381 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :I don't like the registers idea because the "seven" would be a magic artificial limit number < 1622298964 568584 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :while RASEL provides unlimited stack, precision, etc. < 1622298971 223576 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-11-223.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :an instruction to get the stack depth so you can use absolute pointers to the stack < 1622298977 219520 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-11-223.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :or something < 1622298983 299541 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-11-223.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :IO stuff, more arithmetic < 1622299065 726378 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-11-223.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :anyway, you don't have to add them now, you can keep them reserved for *future* extensions < 1622299092 645275 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :is there no analogue of xxd in hackeso? < 1622299115 41390 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-11-223.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :dunno, but you can install anything < 1622299119 748029 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-11-223.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :`whatis xxd < 1622299120 750684 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :xxd: nothing appropriate. < 1622299126 962015 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-11-223.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :``` type xxd < 1622299127 891300 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :bash: line 0: type: xxd: not found < 1622299143 146070 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-11-223.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I usually just use perl for that sort of thing < 1622299281 160157 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-11-223.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :`perl -eprint pack H99,"I068656c6c6f2c20776f726c64" < 1622299281 892149 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :​ hello, world..................................... < 1622299284 584898 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-11-223.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :`perl -eprint pack H99,I068656c6c6f2c20776f726c64 < 1622299285 374041 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :​ hello, world..................................... < 1622299338 157546 :hendursa1!~weechat@user/hendursaga QUIT :Quit: hendursa1 < 1622299396 481039 :hendursaga!~weechat@user/hendursaga JOIN :#esolangs < 1622299411 289541 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-11-223.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :you can also use base64 instead of hex, or python instead of perl, etc < 1622299451 912867 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :$ echo "+++[-.]" | ruby bf_translator.rb | rasel | xxd -p < 1622299452 42668 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :020100 < 1622299476 623168 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :probably made the loop, now need something nested < 1622299791 874375 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :yay < 1622299794 315866 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :$ echo "++++++++[>++++[>++>+++>+++>+<<<<-]>+>+>->>+[<]<-]>>.>---.+++++++..+++.>>.<-.<.+++.------.--------.>>+.>++." | ruby bf_translator.rb | rasel < 1622299803 675248 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :Hello World! < 1622299853 467794 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :but the "+[-->-[>>+>-----<<]<--<---]>-.>>>+.>>..+++[.>]<<<<.+++.------.<<-.>>>>+." just hangs -- is it just slow? < 1622299870 626052 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :\bf +[-->-[>>+>-----<<]<--<---]>-.>>>+.>>..+++[.>]<<<<.+++.------.<<-.>>>>+. < 1622299875 259696 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :^bf +[-->-[>>+>-----<<]<--<---]>-.>>>+.>>..+++[.>]<<<<.+++.------.<<-.>>>>+. < 1622299875 390151 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::2 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Hello, World! < 1622299878 818909 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :hm < 1622299904 668521 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh it's probably doing %256 < 1622300735 841949 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://github.com/Nakilon/rasel/blob/8b725636e9f84cb60c7eb1763936ca1c348f1066/examples/bf_translator.rb < 1622300901 621949 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :`! bf_txtgen Hello, World! < 1622300904 244558 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :118 +++++++++++++++[>+++++>+++++++>++>+++<<<<-]>---.>----.+++++++..+++.>>-.<++.<<+++++++++++++++.>.+++.------.--------.>+. [458] < 1622300910 591718 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :^bf +++++++++++++++[>+++++>+++++++>++>+++<<<<-]>---.>----.+++++++..+++.>>-.<++.<<+++++++++++++++.>.+++.------.--------.>+. < 1622300910 694931 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::2 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Hello, World! < 1622300918 833975 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Not quite as optimal though. < 1622300922 384313 :salpynx!~salpynx@121.73.84.248 PRIVMSG #esolangs :\rasel PI::/\1F//K-1\2D//4-/1A1A1A1A1A1A///////////:2\1\/:1%-1:\//.@ < 1622300923 594404 :velik!~velik@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :output: "3.141592 ", exit code: 0 < 1622300983 537701 :salpynx!~salpynx@121.73.84.248 PRIVMSG #esolangs :tomorrow I'll try to figure out how to remove the repetitions by changing dir and doing jumps. It's hard to debug in IRC chat :) < 1622301014 805155 :tromp!~textual@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1622301044 769935 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :(bf_txtgen output will always start with a +{n}[(>+{n}){4}] to set 4 "best" constants, followed by a sequence of ><+-. to do the output. Even when it doesn't actually need 4 constants.) < 1622301059 167225 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :`! bf_txtgen X < 1622301061 583546 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :32 +++++++++++[>++++++++>>><<<<-]>. [70] < 1622301093 79269 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :+{n}[(>+{n}){4}<{4}-], I mean. < 1622301176 569842 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :salpynx lol < 1622301233 172209 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :salpynx you can install ruby and gem or launch docker image ruby:alpine and install gem there < 1622301374 347294 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie >< < 1622301420 201342 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :that's just bot's face when he's trying hard < 1622301507 195930 :salpynx!~salpynx@121.73.84.248 PRIVMSG #esolangs :\rasel PI::/\1F//K-1\2D//4-/1A/A/A/A/A/A/:2\1\/:1%-1:\//.@ < 1622301508 348465 :velik!~velik@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :output: "3.141592 ", exit code: 0 < 1622301522 204397 :salpynx!~salpynx@121.73.84.248 PRIVMSG #esolangs :that's an obvious optimisation < 1622301985 67738 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :%256 didn't help, probably that "the shortest" helloworld also uses nagetive addressing < 1622302078 675471 :salpynx!~salpynx@121.73.84.248 QUIT :Quit: Connection closed < 1622302663 258295 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-11-223.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :`? fourier < 1622302663 938972 :xkapastel!uid17782@id-17782.tinside.irccloud.com QUIT :*.net *.split < 1622302664 525768 :sknebel!~quassel@v22016013254630973.happysrv.de QUIT :*.net *.split < 1622302664 711464 :simcop2387!~simcop238@2603-6080-3108-088d-18fc-1230-0f1a-2f6b.res6.spectrum.com QUIT :*.net *.split < 1622302664 893424 :FireFly!firefly@user/firefly QUIT :*.net *.split < 1622302665 175549 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :fourier? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1622302707 781256 :xkapastel!uid17782@tinside.irccloud.com JOIN :#esolangs < 1622302714 765604 :sknebel!~quassel@v22016013254630973.happysrv.de JOIN :#esolangs < 1622302756 389915 :FireFly!firefly@user/firefly JOIN :#esolangs < 1622302798 750188 :simcop2387!~simcop238@2603-6080-3108-088d-18fc-1230-0f1a-2f6b.res6.spectrum.com JOIN :#esolangs < 1622303030 441087 :simcop2387!~simcop238@2603-6080-3108-088d-18fc-1230-0f1a-2f6b.res6.spectrum.com QUIT :*.net *.split < 1622303031 107955 :rbtEngrDude!~textual@2600:8800:a610:3e00:3db8:948a:bf7a:303e QUIT :*.net *.split < 1622303156 105172 :simcop2387!~simcop238@2603-6080-3108-088d-18fc-1230-0f1a-2f6b.res6.spectrum.com JOIN :#esolangs < 1622303316 68906 :rbtEngrDude!~textual@2600:8800:a610:3e00:ad8c:ede5:f847:9ef1 JOIN :#esolangs < 1622303900 508445 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-11-223.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I wonder if you can take Fourier series to prove the Copernican model right by computing what epicycles the planets move on < 1622305029 625203 :cd!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony PRIVMSG #esolangs :`slap < 1622305030 386629 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :slap? No such file or directory < 1622305033 958822 :cd!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony PRIVMSG #esolangs :sad < 1622305048 810381 :cd!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony PRIVMSG #esolangs :ACTION wrote a slap command for their hackbot instance last night  < 1622305192 617354 :tromp!~textual@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN :#esolangs < 1622305325 30853 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-11-223.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :@slap cd < 1622305325 109491 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esolangs :ACTION smashes a lamp on cd's head < 1622305350 524093 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-11-223.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :perlbot slap cd < 1622305350 803688 :perlbot!~perlbot@2603-6080-3108-088d-18fc-1230-0f1a-2f6b.res6.spectrum.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: No factoid found. Did you mean one of these: [selfish] [slap] [self] [celebs] [solaris] [surveys] [alpaca] [ellipse] [globs] [gloves] < 1622305356 194462 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-11-223.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :perlbot slap < 1622305356 372798 :perlbot!~perlbot@2603-6080-3108-088d-18fc-1230-0f1a-2f6b.res6.spectrum.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: Saboted Light Armor Piercing > 1622305443 232085 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07DeBruijn14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83626&oldid=83596 5* 03S1(210) 5* (+30) 10 < 1622305468 893374 :cd!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony PRIVMSG #esolangs :@slap b_jonas ow < 1622305468 969223 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esolangs :go slap b_jonas ow yourself < 1622305475 349503 :cd!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony PRIVMSG #esolangs ::( < 1622305630 112210 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.201.90 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1622305682 88678 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-11-223.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :perlbot macro slap can has (echo (nick &n) slaps (eval (arg d)||"perlbot") on the head with a (eval (qw"herring trout baguette mapole","garden hose")[rand 5])) < 1622305682 328366 :perlbot!~perlbot@2603-6080-3108-088d-18fc-1230-0f1a-2f6b.res6.spectrum.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: Stored slap can has (echo (nick &n) slaps (eval (arg d)||"perlbot") on the head with a (eval (qw"herring trout baguette mapole","garden hose")[rand 5])) < 1622305686 383081 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-11-223.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :perlbot slap cd < 1622305686 651124 :perlbot!~perlbot@2603-6080-3108-088d-18fc-1230-0f1a-2f6b.res6.spectrum.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: Compose failed to find a plugin named: nick < 1622305693 837243 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-11-223.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :perlbot macro slap can has (echo (arg &n) slaps (eval (arg d)||"perlbot") on the head with a (eval (qw"herring trout baguette mapole","garden hose")[rand 5])) < 1622305694 445445 :perlbot!~perlbot@2603-6080-3108-088d-18fc-1230-0f1a-2f6b.res6.spectrum.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: Stored slap can has (echo (arg &n) slaps (eval (arg d)||"perlbot") on the head with a (eval (qw"herring trout baguette mapole","garden hose")[rand 5])) < 1622305697 231350 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-11-223.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :perlbot slap < 1622305698 635121 :perlbot!~perlbot@2603-6080-3108-088d-18fc-1230-0f1a-2f6b.res6.spectrum.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: Compose failed to find a plugin named: qw"herring < 1622305725 43309 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-11-223.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :perlbot macro slap can has `echo `arg &n' slaps `eval `arg d'||"perlbot"' on the head with a `eval (qw"herring trout baguette mapole","garden hose")[rand 5]'' < 1622305725 210702 :perlbot!~perlbot@2603-6080-3108-088d-18fc-1230-0f1a-2f6b.res6.spectrum.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: Stored slap can has `echo `arg &n' slaps `eval `arg d'||"perlbot"' on the head with a `eval (qw"herring trout baguette mapole","garden hose")[rand 5]'' < 1622305728 47703 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-11-223.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :perlbot slap < 1622305730 641642 :perlbot!~perlbot@2603-6080-3108-088d-18fc-1230-0f1a-2f6b.res6.spectrum.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: b_jonas slaps perlbot on the head with a herring < 1622305732 66954 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-11-223.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :perlbot slap cd < 1622305734 771738 :perlbot!~perlbot@2603-6080-3108-088d-18fc-1230-0f1a-2f6b.res6.spectrum.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: b_jonas slaps cd on the head with a herring < 1622305738 746198 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-11-223.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :perlbot slap < 1622305741 392205 :perlbot!~perlbot@2603-6080-3108-088d-18fc-1230-0f1a-2f6b.res6.spectrum.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: b_jonas slaps perlbot on the head with a mapole < 1622305747 610776 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-11-223.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :ok so it's not always a herring < 1622305755 694957 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-11-223.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I was afraid I messed up the rand < 1622305777 205037 :cd!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony PRIVMSG #esolangs :aha, i was too when i wrote mine and it pulled the same stunt but with salmon < 1622305793 900748 :cd!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://pybin.pw/9_K6 < 1622305805 911698 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-11-223.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :well I was more lucky when I demonstrated a random coin flip a few days ago < 1622305822 537173 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-11-223.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :as an exmaple statement to make a point about how J can't be compiled < 1622305831 350071 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-11-223.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :it managed to give the right coin flips like three times < 1622306006 723567 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.201.90 JOIN :#esolangs < 1622306094 342184 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Where's that whole "mapole" thing from, anyway? < 1622306097 861378 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :`? mapole < 1622306099 145926 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :A mapole is a thwackamacallit built from maple according to Canadian standards. The army version includes a spork, a corkscrew and a moose whistle. A regulatory mapole measures 6’ by 12 kg, ±0.5 inHg. < 1622306113 341479 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-11-223.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think it was some kind of wisdom thing < 1622306130 869372 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :I associate it with oerjan somehow, but that might just be a red herring. < 1622306144 812949 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-11-223.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :``` set -e; cd /hackenv/wisdom; grep -REli mapole . < 1622306146 927367 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :​./boily \ ./amphiboily \ ./thwackamacallit \ ./corkscrew \ ./swatter \ ./mapole \ ./userweps \ ./rdococ \ ./brontosaurus < 1622306152 841355 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-11-223.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :`? boily < 1622306154 84171 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :​“Sane Mapoleon” boily is monetizing a brotherhood scheme with the Guardian of Lachine. He is also a NaniDispenser, a Trigotillectomic Groan Man Eating Chicken, a METARologist, seriously lacking in the f-word department, a thwack doctor, a Quintopial antipodist, and a renowned Capitalist who helps keep the world kafkaesque. < 1622306162 377167 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-11-223.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :`? swatter < 1622306165 874211 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :The swatter is a tool for punishment commonly found in #esoteric. Not to be confused with the saucepan or mapoles. < 1622306166 512075 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-11-223.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :`? rdococ < 1622306168 345181 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :rdococ was thought to be from Budapest, then Mars, but he is actually in Airstrip One. Thanks to boily he is approaching permanent boredom & mapoledom. He is a relative of `words. < 1622306169 453969 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-11-223.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :`? brontosaurus < 1622306171 47620 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :A brontosaurus is an ancient mythological creature. They were well known for having mapoles for teeth. < 1622306222 331511 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-11-223.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :`? mroman < 1622306223 774177 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :mroman is a leading artist in password security (SFW). He also likes black madness. He can design password hashes that are worse than the identity function. He invented the identity function. He's also an artist in unconventional warfare. > 1622306554 703213 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07DeBruijn14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83627&oldid=83626 5* 03S1(210) 5* (+912) 10/* Recursion and Nonreducing Groups */ < 1622306647 329188 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :`? thwackamacallit < 1622306649 118451 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :A thwackamacallit is like a whatchamacallit, but more painful. See mapole. > 1622306663 602019 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83628&oldid=83622 5* 03Hypocritical 5* (+66) 10/* Introductions */ > 1622306669 227753 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Discordlang14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=83629 5* 03Hypocritical 5* (+43) 10Created page with "'''''Discord-Lang!''''' '''Coming soon!'''" < 1622306780 791534 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :It says BOTTOM in all caps right on the line before, how do you not notice? Anyway, I guess it doesn't really matter. < 1622306887 586291 :cd!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie: I've seen worse stupidity on enwiki, don't worry < 1622306889 359410 :cd!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony PRIVMSG #esolangs :that's nothing < 1622306894 233374 :cd!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony PRIVMSG #esolangs ::P < 1622306916 312642 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-11-223.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie: you can't make people on the internet read warnings < 1622306933 502343 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-11-223.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :or instructions or anything < 1622306988 490805 :cd!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: this reminds me, i can't wait to see people get ""banned"" from one of our mob farms on a server because they failed to read the "Mute the in-game volume or your game will die" warning > 1622307010 909647 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07DeBruijn14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83630&oldid=83627 5* 03S1(210) 5* (-107) 10/* Adder */ < 1622307024 725466 :cd!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony PRIVMSG #esolangs :(Minecraft is written badly and logs a warning every time it can't play a sound. Unfortunately, this area generates thousands of sounds it can't play because the queue is full every second.) > 1622307091 897087 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07FlipJump14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83631&oldid=83188 5* 03Tomhe 5* (+21) 10 < 1622307202 485942 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :so optiimizing the +/- chains improved size of the resulting helloworld from 4029 to 2017 > 1622307259 371951 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Shane Paton 5* 10New user account < 1622307456 485374 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :the resulting code is https://dpaste.org/asko/slim > 1622307462 97633 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83632&oldid=83628 5* 03Shane Paton 5* (+59) 10 > 1622308344 875967 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Camto14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83633&oldid=66666 5* 03Camto 5* (-19) 10It's actually been back alive for a while now. < 1622309892 722717 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.201.90 QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds > 1622309894 320695 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Nakilon14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83634&oldid=83447 5* 03Nakilon 5* (+71) 10about velik < 1622310742 609520 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.201.90 JOIN :#esolangs > 1622311129 788609 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07RASEL14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83635&oldid=83433 5* 03Nakilon 5* (-224) 10described language goals; linked velik < 1622311602 604986 :tromp!~textual@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… > 1622311619 638045 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Velik14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83636&oldid=83620 5* 03Nakilon 5* (+602) 10commands usage examples (moved from RASEL page); links > 1622311644 966019 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83637&oldid=83632 5* 03Fizzie 5* (+192) 10Seriously though, the instructions are right there. < 1622311865 570172 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :the "instructions were not enough clear" meme < 1622311987 199050 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :I accidentally added talk-thread style `--`s myself, because the immediately preceding introductions had one. Though to be fair, that's what comes out of the sign button by default. < 1622312206 822492 :imode!~imode@user/imode JOIN :#esolangs < 1622312377 696659 :tromp!~textual@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN :#esolangs < 1622312552 720487 :dyeplexer!~dyeplexer@user/dyeplexer QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1622312665 762824 :rbtEngrDude!~textual@2600:8800:a610:3e00:ad8c:ede5:f847:9ef1 QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Air has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1622312708 107256 :Thelie!~Thelie@2a02:8106:215:3300:e7ad:5ab7:4ea0:e177 JOIN :#esolangs > 1622313718 504253 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Crain 5* 10New user account > 1622313862 888567 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03NickDev-1666 5* 10New user account < 1622313890 582885 :tromp!~textual@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… > 1622314221 284861 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83638&oldid=83637 5* 03NickDev-1666 5* (+164) 10/* Introductions */ < 1622314454 897261 :Thelie!~Thelie@2a02:8106:215:3300:e7ad:5ab7:4ea0:e177 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1622314493 739277 :Ph0lk3r_!Ph0lk3r@user/ph0lk3r QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1622314586 52310 :Kaiepi!~Kaiepi@46.70.61.245 JOIN :#esolangs < 1622314589 634248 :Kaiepi!~Kaiepi@46.70.61.245 QUIT :K-Lined < 1622315307 948146 :cd!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony PRIVMSG #esolangs :`` cat $(which rainbow) < 1622315309 315098 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :print_args_or_input "$@" | pikhqbow < 1622315337 570618 :cd!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony PRIVMSG #esolangs :`` cat $(which pikhqbow) < 1622315338 522937 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :​ELF............>.....d@.....@....... ..........@.8..@.........@.......@.@.....@.@........................................@......@............................................@.......@.....4......4........ ............8......8`.....8`.....H......X........ ...........P......P`.....P`......................................@.....@.....D.......D..............Ptd...X......X@.....X@.....,.......,..............Q < 1622315344 206498 :cd!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony PRIVMSG #esolangs :ah a binary < 1622315345 399737 :cd!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony PRIVMSG #esolangs :hm < 1622315442 520479 :cd!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony PRIVMSG #esolangs :pikhq: bonk, do you happen to still have the src to that or should i just nab it? < 1622315460 663585 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :`dobg pikhqbow < 1622315463 131990 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :8746:2016-07-05 ` gcc -Os -s src/pikhqbow.c -o bin/pikhqbow \ 8744:2016-07-05 ` gcc -Os -s src/pikhqbow.c -o bin/pikhqbow \ 8742:2016-07-05 ` gcc src/pikhqbow.c -o bin/pikhqbow < 1622315474 87003 :pikhq!sid394595@user/pikhq PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh god i definitely don't < 1622315476 585714 :cd!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony PRIVMSG #esolangs :`ls ../src < 1622315477 561154 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :99.sh \ bob.c \ brainfuck.fu \ ciol \ ciol.c \ daoyu.c \ egobot.tar.xz \ emmental.hs \ factor-linux-x86-64-0.95.tar.gz \ fizziecoin.jpg \ fueue.c \ grph.c \ hello2.c \ hello3.c \ hello.c \ maze.c \ orenbow.c \ pikhqbow.c \ ploki \ ploki-0.6.5.1.tar.bz2 \ u8tbl.c \ ul.emm < 1622315481 997477 :cd!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh hey < 1622315482 453829 :pikhq!sid394595@user/pikhq PRIVMSG #esolangs :hey, there we are < 1622315483 343902 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :`cat ../src/pikhqbow.c < 1622315484 71403 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :​#include \ #include \ #include \ int main(){wint_t c;int a=0;setlocale(LC_ALL,"C.UTF-8");b:c=fgetwc(stdin);if(c==EOF) return 0;printf("\x03%d%lc%s",(int[]){4,8,9,11,12,13}[a],c,c==L','?"\x0f":"",c);if(++a==6)a=0;goto b;} < 1622315501 561470 :cd!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony PRIVMSG #esolangs :nevermind then, sorry for the ping :P < 1622315517 743513 :pikhq!sid394595@user/pikhq PRIVMSG #esolangs :no worries :) < 1622315541 105610 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :C99 is great. < 1622315558 769448 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :Is there a language like C99, but only with a few more good features? < 1622315579 991728 :cd!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony PRIVMSG #esolangs :for some reason the std* headers in my hackbot instance are broken. I'll need to stop being terrified and debug that now < 1622315587 539723 :cd!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony PRIVMSG #esolangs :i literally have no idea why @.@ < 1622315601 207057 :cd!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony PRIVMSG #esolangs :shachaf: uhhh, probably zig < 1622315911 421025 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :`` du -sh . < 1622315912 467036 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :30M . < 1622315924 136731 :cd!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://hackbot.hellomouse.net/file/tip/fuck aaAAAAAAAAAAA < 1622316015 818062 :river!~river@tilde.team/user/river QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1622316272 471852 :cd!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony PRIVMSG #esolangs :`gcc --version < 1622316273 398106 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :gcc (Debian 8.3.0-6) 8.3.0 \ Copyright (C) 2018 Free Software Foundation, Inc. \ This is free software; see the source for copying conditions. There is NO \ warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. > 1622316429 862020 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Moditape14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83639&oldid=83609 5* 03Mase 5* (+278) 10 > 1622317084 609516 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Moditape14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83640&oldid=83639 5* 03Mase 5* (+19) 10 < 1622317089 766841 :tromp!~textual@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN :#esolangs > 1622317144 95328 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Moditape14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83641&oldid=83640 5* 03Mase 5* (+89) 10/* Truth machine */ > 1622317157 212697 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Moditape14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83642&oldid=83641 5* 03Mase 5* (-21) 10/* Hello World */ > 1622317179 290015 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07DeBruijn14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83643&oldid=83630 5* 03S1(210) 5* (-81) 10/* Adder */ < 1622317180 640460 :river!~river@tilde.team/user/river JOIN :#esolangs > 1622317259 131455 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07DeBruijn14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83644&oldid=83643 5* 03S1(210) 5* (-26) 10/* Triangular Number */ > 1622317337 316193 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07DeBruijn14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83645&oldid=83644 5* 03S1(210) 5* (+99) 10/* Triangular Number */ < 1622317585 931146 :cd!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony PRIVMSG #esolangs :`` gcc -Os -s src/pikhqbow.c -o pikhqbow_tst < 1622317587 823222 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :gcc: error: src/pikhqbow.c: No such file or directory \ gcc: fatal error: no input files \ compilation terminated. < 1622317595 220689 :cd!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony PRIVMSG #esolangs :`` gcc -Os -s ../src/pikhqbow.c -o pikhqbow_tst < 1622317597 435088 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :No output. < 1622317603 799031 :cd!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony PRIVMSG #esolangs :;-; < 1622317710 461676 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Doing `du -sh` in . misses all the version-controlled part, because $CWD is in /hackenv/tmp to start with. < 1622317715 359225 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Doing it in /hackenv inside umlbox takes too long to be feasible, but it's about 750M all in all. < 1622317763 225208 :cd!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony PRIVMSG #esolangs :well wonderful, gcc, clang, and tcc all don't work inside umlbox in my instance, wtf < 1622317779 830816 :cd!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony PRIVMSG #esolangs :gcc segfaults, clang dies, tcc fails for some reason < 1622317797 700592 :cd!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony PRIVMSG #esolangs :ACTION sigh < 1622317878 977488 :cd!moony@hellomouse/dev/moony PRIVMSG #esolangs :guessing the best place to start is building a new uml kernel < 1622318312 386959 :tromp!~textual@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1622318676 596067 :Mirrexagon!~Mirrexago@softbank126082139157.bbtec.net JOIN :#esolangs < 1622318688 626251 :Mirrexagon!~Mirrexago@softbank126082139157.bbtec.net QUIT :K-Lined < 1622319137 943185 :Noisytoot!noisytoot@sourcehut/user/noisytoot NICK :[[ < 1622319422 728377 :[[!noisytoot@sourcehut/user/noisytoot NICK :Noisytoot < 1622319685 731812 :tromp!~textual@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN :#esolangs < 1622319754 256446 :hipodilski!~hipodilsk@218.37.77.106 JOIN :#esolangs < 1622319757 371981 :hipodilski!~hipodilsk@218.37.77.106 QUIT :K-Lined < 1622320000 846692 :Noisytoot!noisytoot@sourcehut/user/noisytoot QUIT :Killed (ozone (No Spam)) < 1622320061 733753 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo JOIN :#esolangs < 1622320124 39985 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :why not docker? < 1622320147 771175 :Noisytoot!~noisytoot@sourcehut/user/noisytoot JOIN :#esolangs < 1622321062 963260 :xkapastel!uid17782@tinside.irccloud.com NICK :abcdefrs < 1622321075 73710 :abcdefrs!uid17782@tinside.irccloud.com NICK :xkapastel < 1622321314 496154 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Okay, this is not ideal: In order to print something, I have to submit a print job, then reboot so that it notices that the printer is attached. < 1622321741 205407 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :I have a printer I've set up "properly", but when I turn on the printer, some automagical thing creates a second instance of it, and then I have to remember which one's the one that actually works. < 1622321766 691463 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :is it the new one or the original one? < 1622321836 11498 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think it's the original one. < 1622321870 676001 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think I gave the new one a try on the assumption that if it clever enough to create it automatically, it's clever enough to make a working one as well, but it wasn't. < 1622321881 347817 :fizzie!fis@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Or else it's possible both would work. But they're definitely different. < 1622322063 539634 :tromp!~textual@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1622322226 138182 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :this one is getting stuck on "waiting for printer to become ready" somehow < 1622322247 245575 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh well, I printed what I wanted to print... not in the mood for delving into cups stuff < 1622322292 804434 :tromp!~textual@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN :#esolangs < 1622322418 123857 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :ACTION does not know why everyone have printers < 1622322438 134354 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :because of paperwork < 1622322573 727163 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(This is a badly maintained vendor-provided printer "driver"... problems are not unexpected.) < 1622322625 980311 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :I have a trouble with printer on my computer (maybe it is a hardware problem though), so instead when I want to print, I print it on a different computer < 1622323452 26993 :Noisytoot!~noisytoot@sourcehut/user/noisytoot QUIT :Quit: ZNC 1.8.2 - https://znc.in < 1622323557 217313 :Noisytoot!noisytoot@sourcehut/user/noisytoot JOIN :#esolangs < 1622325335 101210 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-11-223.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: back with my pentium 2 compaq home computer and Epson matrix printer, I could only print from Linux if I started DOS first and then started Linux with loadlin from that. DOS did some magic and without that the printer didn't initialize, you could even tell from the status light on the printer. < 1622325410 866270 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-11-223.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :nakilon: I don't have any now; if I want to print, I can just go to a copy shop with self-serving printing. if it were for work then I could use the office printer, but I don't need to print anything for work. < 1622325461 446862 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-11-223.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :the office printers have some magic too for what you have to do to set up drivers to use them, but as a software guy, I never need to use them < 1622325545 766612 :tech_exorcist!~tech_exor@de1.hashbang.sh QUIT :Quit: tech_exorcist < 1622325969 675196 :tromp!~textual@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1622326163 612190 :Thelie!~Thelie@2a02:8106:215:3300:e7ad:5ab7:4ea0:e177 JOIN :#esolangs < 1622329195 100590 :salimfadhley!~salimfadh@195.230.130.123 JOIN :#esolangs < 1622329198 681552 :salimfadhley!~salimfadh@195.230.130.123 QUIT :K-Lined < 1622329198 838967 :salpynx!~salpynx@121.73.84.248 JOIN :#esolangs < 1622329564 539113 :Oddstr13!~Oddstr13@2a00:23c7:9e08:9d01:f02a:d324:247c:8bcf JOIN :#esolangs < 1622329568 1732 :Oddstr13!~Oddstr13@2a00:23c7:9e08:9d01:f02a:d324:247c:8bcf QUIT :K-Lined < 1622330196 409974 :Thelie!~Thelie@2a02:8106:215:3300:e7ad:5ab7:4ea0:e177 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1622330379 60515 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@136.169.201.90 QUIT :Quit: gone too far < 1622331024 802759 :dcristofani!~dcristofa@71-212-20-11.tukw.qwest.net JOIN :#esolangs < 1622331556 823544 :dcristofani!~dcristofa@71-212-20-11.tukw.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1622332140 432279 :Manishearth!~Manishear@91.130.1.193 JOIN :#esolangs < 1622332143 607138 :Manishearth!~Manishear@91.130.1.193 QUIT :K-Lined > 1622332635 432276 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Moditape14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=83646&oldid=83642 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+42) 10/* Reference Interpreter (Written in C, yes the code is bad) */ Cats