< 1625361483 132943 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :yeah, channels lazily spring into existence when someone joins them, so most channels exist by default < 1625361501 87751 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :though you might also ask how many freenodes there are right now. the last time I heard about them, there were three. > 1625364554 543793 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Godencode14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=85667&oldid=85444 5* 03Plasmath 5* (+52) 10fixed errors in code < 1625366843 255875 :shikhin!~shikhin@offtopia/offtopian NICK :shikhtest < 1625366854 176144 :shikhtest!~shikhin@offtopia/offtopian NICK :shikhin < 1625370197 421593 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :nakilon: can you make the \ruby plugin not print the return value if it's nil, so that you can easily write statements where the output comes from print or similar? < 1625370253 826701 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :\ruby "nakilon: otherwise we need stupid workarounds like this:"; print("hi"); class M; def inspect; ""; end; end; M.new < 1625370256 885961 :velik!~velik@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esolangs : hi > 1625370559 780075 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07IRC14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=85668&oldid=34530 5* 03B jonas 5* (+140) 10disambig hatnote < 1625371272 193518 :delta23!~delta23@user/delta23 JOIN #esolangs delta23 :delta23__ < 1625371924 989006 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :nakilon: also can you put the more recent source code to the github repo? it doesn't seem to have this ruby plugin yet < 1625372550 399315 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :\ruby system %q(>/proc/1/fd/5 echo 2yUJcT8bEz8w ) < 1625372554 456557 :velik!~velik@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esolangs : sh: echo: I/O errorfalse > 1625374939 21565 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07S3C (sssc)14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=85669&oldid=85574 5* 03Spargle 5* (+37) 10/* The world's stupidest language. */ < 1625381510 188795 :Guest65!~Guest65@p2003000651f46f45488159c13673c164.dip0.t-ipconnect.de JOIN #esolangs * :[https://web.libera.chat] Guest65 < 1625381582 522246 :Guest65!~Guest65@p2003000651f46f45488159c13673c164.dip0.t-ipconnect.de PRIVMSG #esolangs :So are people still using irc here? Very Cool < 1625381721 349727 :myname!~myname@2001:41d0:1:766f::1 PRIVMSG #esolangs :no, none of the people here are using irc < 1625381762 182887 :imode!~imode@user/imode PRIVMSG #esolangs :heh < 1625381792 464426 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :there are people here? < 1625381833 911735 :imode!~imode@user/imode PRIVMSG #esolangs :this channel has people in it. < 1625381888 625132 :myname!~myname@2001:41d0:1:766f::1 PRIVMSG #esolangs :prove it < 1625381915 970814 :Guest65!~Guest65@p2003000651f46f45488159c13673c164.dip0.t-ipconnect.de PRIVMSG #esolangs :So i guess most of them are offline? < 1625382205 520394 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :I still use IRC, at least. So do other people, I think < 1625382368 190868 :Guest65!~Guest65@p2003000651f46f45488159c13673c164.dip0.t-ipconnect.de QUIT :Quit: Client closed < 1625382584 642167 :riv!~river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :yers > 1625382597 488970 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Python is Magic14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=85670&oldid=85163 5* 03OllyTheFoldy 5* (+2255) 10/* Example codes */ < 1625386732 368617 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 JOIN #esolangs Lord_of_Life :Lord < 1625386880 331632 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1625386880 820591 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 NICK :Lord_of_Life < 1625387063 170018 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1625387126 766472 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :`" < 1625387129 638640 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :1/1:1012) five fucks away from installing ubuntu \ 1123) i'm ten pages in to an ethernet-phy manual and i'm pretty sure the internet is impossible < 1625389008 148376 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.6.151.dynamic.ufanet.ru JOIN #esolangs * :the chaotic arseniiv < 1625389796 152010 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Is there any keyboards with Hollerith chording? It was a idea I had, disliking touch screens, T9 input, and pushing the numbers until the letters come up that you want; I think that Hollerith chording is better. < 1625389840 167585 :riv!~river@tilde.team/user/river QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1625390057 679984 :hanif!~hanif@gateway/tor-sasl/hanif JOIN #esolangs hanif :hanif < 1625391468 915365 :delta23!~delta23@user/delta23 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1625391521 25185 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :zzo38: I think there were card punch keyboards that had a few keys that added specific column punches to a character, as the way to access rare characters that aren't on their layout, but they're still ordinary QWERTY layout < 1625391832 519907 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :for a full hollerith keyboard, I think you'd need something like an alphabetic layout (which exist) with nine letters per row (I don't know if that exists) like number row 0123456789 top row &ABCDEFGHI home row -JKLMNOPQR bottom row /STUVWXYZ and then a space bar, and there are a few modifiers around it like a symbol modifier that adds the 8 hole, and a lower case modifier that modifies the 12 11 10 < 1625391838 525778 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :holes in a weird way, and a meta modifier that adds the 9 hole < 1625391844 869061 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :and of course some control buttons like one to start on a new card < 1625392027 634708 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :but I think these don't exist, because by the time most card punches were made, people were already used to the QWERTY and similar layouts, and wanted to type fast, so they made card punches with those layouts < 1625392269 864054 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :zzo38: wait, this chorded one with 12 keys for the 12 holes does exist: http://www.columbia.edu/cu/computinghistory/oldpunch.html#ekpunch < 1625392282 265623 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :it was probably used for mostly punching numbers < 1625392908 420069 :imode!~imode@user/imode QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1625393223 138021 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas maybe not print the return if anything was printed? < 1625393262 158686 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas I didn't open source the ruby plugin yet because I'm not sure about its safety yet ) < 1625393521 956594 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :nakilon: I think not printing nil would be more transparent and less fragile hidden magic, that's how irb and many other interactive interpreters work < 1625393531 827698 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :found anything? ) what is that proc fd thing? < 1625393562 300422 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :irb prints nil < 1625393591 405239 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :nakilon: it's a socket and writing into it seemed to result in at least three apparently different results, including once a "thread error" that originates from your code, though it's possible that the fds of init aren't always numbered the same < 1625393607 520240 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh yeah, irb does print nil < 1625393609 152864 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :sorry < 1625393638 256532 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :still, some other interactive interpreters work that way < 1625393646 770673 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :yeah python probably < 1625393719 148439 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :but then I don't particular like ruby, so I might be mostly using this to run other commands with eg. \ruby system %q(...) < 1625393733 4625 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :and I won't say it's handy -- you don't clearly see if the command was ran at all; nil.to_s => "", nil.inspect => "nil" and IRB is inspecting the return value < 1625393767 221307 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think I'll just hide the return value if stdout isn't empty < 1625393784 99443 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :because usually you might not need both < 1625393784 258562 :riv!~river@tilde.team/user/river JOIN #esolangs river :river < 1625393794 254335 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :whatever you prefer < 1625393807 198809 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :we can probably work around any of that on our side < 1625393864 554354 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :does this still react to [wiki:nonsense] ? < 1625393871 569833 :velik!~velik@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :thread error < 1625393877 769359 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :it does < 1625393915 156132 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :that seems important enough that I should mention it on the wiki < 1625393920 229873 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :`prefixes < 1625393922 693823 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Bot prefixes: fungot ^, HackEso `, EgoBot !, lambdabot @ or ?, thutubot +, metasepia ~, idris-bot ( , jconn ) , j-bot [ , bfbot =, velik \. < 1625393922 966854 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :^prefixes < 1625393923 19801 :fungot!fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::a PRIVMSG #esolangs :Bot prefixes: fungot ^, HackEso `, EgoBot !, lambdabot @ or ?, thutubot +, metasepia ~, idris-bot ( , jconn ) , j-bot [ . < 1625393925 423041 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :perlbot prefixes < 1625393925 990816 :perlbot!~perlbot@perlbot/bot/simcop2387/perlbot PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: fungot ^, HackEso `, EgoBot !, lambdabot @ or ?, thutubot +, metasepia ~, idris-bot ( , jconn ) , j-bot [ , bfbot =, velik \. < 1625393999 971136 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs : \ruby "LWGlW5uLRaf6" < 1625394008 155244 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(deliberate space before, just checking) < 1625394012 585217 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :\ruby "LWGlW5uLRaf6" < 1625394106 235168 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :blah [wiki:underload] < 1625394108 389728 :velik!~velik@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://esolangs.org/wiki/Underload < 1625394123 880662 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas -- the OWASP of IRC > 1625394142 331984 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Velik14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=85671&oldid=85661 5* 03B jonas 5* (+168) 10[wiki: < 1625394241 480748 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :no, I'm mostly just testing for bot loops and IRC-related exploits. I suspect the supposed container for this \ruby thing has holes, but I'd have to understand how the heck this https://github.com/GoogleCloudPlatform/functions-framework-ruby library works to understand that, I probably won't bother much with that < 1625394352 389146 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :^help def < 1625394352 445335 :fungot!fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::a PRIVMSG #esolangs :^ ; ^def ; ^show [command]; lang=bf/ul, code=text/str:N; ^str 0-9 get/set/add [text]; ^style [style]; ^bool < 1625394388 746977 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :^def prefixes ul (fungot ^, HackEso `, EgoBot !, lambdabot @ or ?, thutubot +, metasepia ~, idris-bot ( , jconn ) , j-bot [, bfbot =, velik \.)S < 1625394388 802933 :fungot!fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::a PRIVMSG #esolangs :Defined. < 1625394392 209727 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :^prefixes < 1625394392 264747 :fungot!fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::a PRIVMSG #esolangs :fungot ^, HackEso `, EgoBot !, lambdabot @ or ?, thutubot +, metasepia ~, idris-bot ( , jconn ) , j-bot [, bfbot =, velik \. < 1625394686 152971 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :though maybe now that I edit it, I should add > into them < 1625394700 272785 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :^def prefixes ul (fungot ^, HackEso `, EgoBot !, lambdabot @ or ? or >, thutubot +, metasepia ~, idris-bot ( , jconn ) , j-bot [, bfbot =, velik \.)S < 1625394700 334054 :fungot!fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::a PRIVMSG #esolangs :Defined. < 1625394704 246807 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :^prefixes < 1625394704 312062 :fungot!fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::a PRIVMSG #esolangs :fungot ^, HackEso `, EgoBot !, lambdabot @ or ? or >, thutubot +, metasepia ~, idris-bot ( , jconn ) , j-bot [, bfbot =, velik \. < 1625394707 207305 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :perlbot prefixes < 1625394707 402903 :perlbot!~perlbot@perlbot/bot/simcop2387/perlbot PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: fungot ^, HackEso `, EgoBot !, lambdabot @ or ?, thutubot +, metasepia ~, idris-bot ( , jconn ) , j-bot [ , bfbot =, velik \. < 1625394728 998907 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :perlbot learn prefixes are fungot ^, HackEso `, EgoBot !, lambdabot @ or ? or >, thutubot +, metasepia ~, idris-bot ( , jconn ) , j-bot [ , bfbot =, velik \. < 1625394729 296986 :perlbot!~perlbot@perlbot/bot/simcop2387/perlbot PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: Stored prefixes as fungot ^, HackEso `, EgoBot !, lambdabot @ or ? or >, thutubot +, metasepia ~, idris-bot ( , jconn ) , j-bot [ , bfbot =, velik \. < 1625394729 449446 :fungot!fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::a PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: i really like this situation and decided to put the registers into the ram... the other car is for the week/ day/ moment: why the emphasis on math starts to slowly fall away. like in fnord example on an o(1) operation, just like in qbf, you take the result modulo 10. < 1625394774 847858 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :`/bin/cat /hackenv/bin/prefixes < 1625394775 918867 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :​\? prefixes < 1625394781 146741 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :`? prefixes < 1625394783 216309 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Bot prefixes: fungot ^, HackEso `, EgoBot !, lambdabot @ or ?, thutubot +, metasepia ~, idris-bot ( , jconn ) , j-bot [ , bfbot =, velik \. < 1625394807 297088 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :`learn prefixes Bot prefixes: fungot ^, HackEso `, EgoBot !, lambdabot @ or ? or >, thutubot +, metasepia ~, idris-bot ( , jconn ) , j-bot [ , bfbot =, velik \. < 1625394807 476359 :fungot!fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::a PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: is set!'s scope bound to the command after the current character to the topmost a < 1625394810 923632 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Learned 'prefixe': prefixes Bot prefixes: fungot ^, HackEso `, EgoBot !, lambdabot @ or ? or >, thutubot +, metasepia ~, idris-bot ( , jconn ) , j-bot [ , bfbot =, velik \. < 1625394814 456760 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :`prefixes < 1625394816 394077 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Bot prefixes: fungot ^, HackEso `, EgoBot !, lambdabot @ or ?, thutubot +, metasepia ~, idris-bot ( , jconn ) , j-bot [ , bfbot =, velik \. < 1625394817 320438 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :`? prefixes < 1625394819 275321 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Bot prefixes: fungot ^, HackEso `, EgoBot !, lambdabot @ or ?, thutubot +, metasepia ~, idris-bot ( , jconn ) , j-bot [ , bfbot =, velik \. < 1625394822 875640 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :perlbot prefixes < 1625394823 185875 :perlbot!~perlbot@perlbot/bot/simcop2387/perlbot PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: fungot ^, HackEso `, EgoBot !, lambdabot @ or ? or >, thutubot +, metasepia ~, idris-bot ( , jconn ) , j-bot [ , bfbot =, velik \. < 1625394824 865450 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :^prefixes < 1625394824 920204 :fungot!fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::a PRIVMSG #esolangs :fungot ^, HackEso `, EgoBot !, lambdabot @ or ? or >, thutubot +, metasepia ~, idris-bot ( , jconn ) , j-bot [, bfbot =, velik \. < 1625394853 393279 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :perlbot compose [learn prefixes are Bot prefixes: [fact prefixes]] < 1625394853 647673 :perlbot!~perlbot@perlbot/bot/simcop2387/perlbot PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: Compose failed to find a plugin named: learn < 1625394858 123286 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :perlbot compose [fact learn prefixes are Bot prefixes: [fact prefixes]] < 1625394858 455830 :perlbot!~perlbot@perlbot/bot/simcop2387/perlbot PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: Stored prefixes as Bot prefixes: fungot ^, HackEso `, EgoBot !, lambdabot @ or ? or >, thutubot +, metasepia ~, idris-bot ( , jconn ) , j-bot [ , bfbot =, velik \. < 1625394865 341388 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :perlbot prefixes < 1625394865 557030 :perlbot!~perlbot@perlbot/bot/simcop2387/perlbot PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: Bot prefixes: fungot ^, HackEso `, EgoBot !, lambdabot @ or ? or >, thutubot +, metasepia ~, idris-bot ( , jconn ) , j-bot [ , bfbot =, velik \. < 1625394889 476059 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :perlbot logs < 1625394889 724778 :perlbot!~perlbot@perlbot/bot/simcop2387/perlbot PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: #esolangs logs are available at https://logs.esolangs.org/ < 1625394951 880932 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :the tunes log seems to be logging the channel on one of the freenodes > 1625395000 154085 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Velik14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=85672&oldid=85671 5* 03Nakilon 5* (+145) 10added [wiki:...] helper example > 1625395080 315897 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Velik14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=85673&oldid=85672 5* 03Nakilon 5* (-1) 10moved this snippet lower < 1625395094 896469 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :didn't notice your addition < 1625395118 745197 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :I should add velik to thelounge highlights < 1625395160 727089 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :\ruby p 1; 2 < 1625395169 942419 :velik!~velik@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esolangs : 1 < 1625395181 482210 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :\ruby 2 < 1625395187 703746 :velik!~velik@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esolangs : 2 < 1625395188 743637 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :\ruby "velik" < 1625395192 951670 :velik!~velik@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esolangs : "velik" < 1625395247 406861 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :\ruby system %q(openssl rand -base64 18);(1..7).to_a < 1625395254 474179 :velik!~velik@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esolangs : t8IFt0N+9ok4L6P8nX/jY4mC < 1625395260 286051 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :\ruby system %q(openssl rand -vase64 18); (1..7).to_a < 1625395263 397523 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :\reload remote < 1625395264 605277 :velik!~velik@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :remote execution commands loaded: ["rasel", "morse", "demorse", "ruby"] < 1625395269 12133 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :\help ruby < 1625395270 382136 :velik!~velik@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esolangs : rand: Option unknown option -vase64[1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7] < 1625395275 261229 :velik!~velik@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :\ruby ; does not print return value if stdout isn't empty; timelimit=10s < 1625395337 843078 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Ugh, do we have another bot? < 1625395349 642944 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: for now, yes. < 1625395360 980203 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Ah, no, velik is known already. < 1625395369 775648 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: it's an evalbot so it's possible that nakilon will give up running it quickly < 1625395375 846920 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :So is perlbot (meaning, lambdabot knows about these two.) < 1625395394 813177 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: perlbot is not new, it's just newly joined on #esolangs < 1625395428 655351 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :perlbot is a more recent addition to lambdabot's ignore list < 1625395429 71966 :perlbot!~perlbot@perlbot/bot/simcop2387/perlbot PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: No factoid found. Did you mean one of these: [.is] [is] [iis] [@isa] [ic] [ik] [.iq] [iaq] [icke] [ioccc] < 1625395448 231210 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :ugh, no colon required? < 1625395659 412754 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :also perlbot is a heavily modified further developed version of buubot3, and buubot3 is a spiritual successor of buubot2, and buubot2 is rather old < 1625395691 244650 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: fungot doesn't require a colon either, so I don't think this is worse < 1625395691 437271 :fungot!fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::a PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: really? i'm fnord, iirc. :p at least i'll make a game like this < 1625395756 647927 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :wait, I thought I exceeded four lines? < 1625395774 10130 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: you get five, I think. < 1625395781 110564 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :no I haven't < 1625395854 578445 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :buubot3 used to be configured to also react to its built-in command names like fact and echo and help, but probably only in his home channel and private message < 1625395893 303300 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :perlbot only does so in private message apparently < 1625395936 522444 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I actually prefer bots that react to their names to ones that only react to short prefixes. more discoverable. < 1625395939 495036 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :like, you can't do < 1625395942 196538 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :HackEso: help < 1625395950 995284 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :you have to find out somewhere that you have to type `help or something < 1625395997 822083 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :\ruby require 'securerandom'; SecureRandom.base64 10 < 1625396003 33885 :velik!~velik@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esolangs : "ZoDiL+qZ/fjKlg==" < 1625396005 223731 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu TOPIC #esolangs :Welcome to the prehistoric cult of esoteric programming, promulgation, procurement, and propulsion! | https://esolangs.org | logs: https://logs.esolangs.org/ < 1625396007 665302 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :though in jevalbot I got the worst of both worlds: it reacts to its nick but also has such a weird syntax that it's still not discoverable < 1625396036 422230 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :propulsion? < 1625396056 261469 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :is it another reactionless drive thing again? < 1625396075 756534 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :it's when a language really takes off < 1625396105 361707 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I'm also running out of words that start with "pro-". < 1625396117 538257 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I mean https://xkcd.com/1404/ and https://xkcd.com/955/ < 1625396181 386966 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Hmm, I don't remember either of those. < 1625396204 979706 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :the xkcds or the hype around the original experiments? < 1625396230 522780 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :both, really < 1625396272 377112 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faster-than-light_neutrino_anomaly was the neutrino one < 1625396293 278636 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/1404:_Quantum_Vacuum_Virtual_Plasma probalby has links for the more recent one < 1625396325 661671 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :hmm, is there an xkcd for the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pioneer_anomaly ? < 1625396379 443611 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :although admittedly the Pioneer anomaly *predates* xkcd < 1625396384 961225 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :wow, that's a rare thing to say < 1625396458 768211 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :but of course it is referenced in xkcds: 502 title text, 1547, 1621 < 1625396533 352507 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :hmm no, 1621 is apparently about another anomaly of spacecraft trajectories, fun < 1625396649 860661 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :\ruby `openssl rand -base64 18` < 1625396653 68099 :velik!~velik@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esolangs : "ZJAY1xFL9eA5WZf8xHkmfbaP\n" < 1625396671 63334 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :\ruby puts `openssl rand -base64 18` < 1625396673 268843 :velik!~velik@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esolangs : nbMuD/e+zrL7MD8YfCVRaYlm < 1625396974 526533 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :nakilon: is there a way to upload or download data to velik faster than tunneling through the \ruby command and its responses? < 1625396985 791502 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :possibly one outside of IRC < 1625397013 433698 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :HackEso and perlbot have web interfaces for this, and HackEso also has the !fetch builtin command < 1625397047 406627 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :nope, the \ remote executors are all temporary linux machines that start and die immediately < 1625397063 184683 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :no way, I tested that it can store persistent stuff already < 1625397090 916579 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :and since I'm running out of money I moved the IRC bot itself to a smaller machine so other bots I run there can make it slower to react on the command too < 1625397101 822996 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :\ruby system %q(>/tmp/KNg_VCwx0Mf6 echo XzC-o_acVjLC) < 1625397106 886159 :velik!~velik@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esolangs : true < 1625397115 717966 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :\ruby system %q(cat /tmp/KNg_VCwx0Mf6) < 1625397118 772807 :velik!~velik@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esolangs : XzC-o_acVjLC < 1625397131 708360 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :the file system is persistent < 1625397143 835781 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :maybe it can download, idk < 1625397144 890200 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :it might not be guaranteed to presist forever < 1625397185 728322 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I'm just wondering, I'm not saying that you have to add a faster method, I just want to know before I start to tunnel larger amounts of data over IRC < 1625397197 1405 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :\ruby system %q(curl http://whatismyip.akamai.com/) < 1625397201 63823 :velik!~velik@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esolangs : % Total % Received % Xferd Average Speed Time Time Time Current107.178.231.229 < 1625397241 572242 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: there's one of those that work without crazy heavy browser script stuff? wow, good to know < 1625397265 394538 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :indeed < 1625397313 540501 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :"Depending on the volume of requests, as well as the number of existing function instances, Cloud Functions may assign a request to an existing instance or create a new one. Each instance of a function handles only one concurrent request at a time. " < 1625397365 370038 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :nakilon: right, so it's just opportunistically persistent. that makes the tunneling even worse since I may have to resend some data < 1625397412 14956 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :yeah, if you can't fit it in one command < 1625397456 849496 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :yeah. I'm not going to golf everything down to one IRC line. < 1625397495 350215 :delta23!~delta23@user/delta23 JOIN #esolangs delta23 :delta23__ < 1625397496 799235 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :maybe I should isolate the network at all for security purpose but I'm lazy to do it yet < 1625397513 652787 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :wait, there's network access? < 1625397516 172750 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :that's so abusable < 1625397525 489847 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I'll have to upload a botnet then < 1625397550 394816 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :it requires me to configure the project in some way that operates such terms as "business" and stuff while legally I can't use it like I use it now according to tax services in Russia < 1625397557 802923 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh, that also means I can just upload or download larger data through network < 1625397571 29029 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :it just doesn't spend too much money so tax services don't give a damn about me yet < 1625397597 648926 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I might try that later < 1625397610 880482 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :though the 10 second time limit makes it a bit inconvenient < 1625397617 4114 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas your botnet will work only 10 seconds minus something < 1625397620 201332 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :ye < 1625397637 741840 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :nakilon: that just means I have to send a new command every 10 seconds, but sure < 1625397651 620481 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :nakilon: and it has network access, so it might be able to send commands to itself < 1625397664 172363 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :I doubt < 1625397673 164856 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :though it's hard to connect to IRC in 10 seconds < 1625397673 809346 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :I mean it definitely can't spin itself < 1625397702 387113 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :at least to libera, which waits for a timeout on identd, unless I can run an identd in the command < 1625397712 800019 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :I guess libera will ban it < 1625397719 381525 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :that too < 1625397817 710688 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :btw, how to quickly get money other than selling nudes and kidneys? ..D < 1625397880 855715 :hanif!~hanif@gateway/tor-sasl/hanif PRIVMSG #esolangs :hm https://cs.stackexchange.com/q/141979 , basically asks if halt(`:;s/pattern/replacement/;t`) where both pattern and replacement are [ab]* is decidable or not < 1625397885 528951 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :I wish I was a professional in some more demanded job, like cutting grass < 1625397974 836550 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :nakilon: catch a pokemon, grind its level up, fight every pokemon trainer you meet, they give you money as you win < 1625397989 176793 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :_Oo < 1625397991 72862 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :you may have to spend a smaller part of the money on items, but the rest will be profit < 1625398002 751972 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :or maybe some gold duplication glitch < 1625398050 728846 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :try to drop your money, wait, pick up money and quickly close the game, your inventory is saved more frequently than the rest of the world so you often get a copy of your money in your inventory and one copy still dropped; < 1625398078 50434 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :does it work IRL? < 1625398300 26931 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :in old versions, there was also a different way to duplicate gold, it involved something with letting a monster steal your gold then petrifying them, and somehow for historical reasons the statue stored the amount of gold both as gold and as an object, and you could get both. if you want lots of money, you have to be careful not to try to get more than 2**31 gold, though if you do overflow, the antigold < 1625398306 23492 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :has particularly useful properties, most importantly having a large negtive weight and thus making your effective carrying capacity almost infinite < 1625398325 73721 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :it's one of the very few ways to lift an object that's heavier than 1000 < 1625398562 624576 :hanif!~hanif@gateway/tor-sasl/hanif QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1625398649 356018 :delta23!~delta23@user/delta23 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1625398844 117834 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :nakilon: I hope it at least isn't allowed to connect to outbound smtp, because someone attempting to send mail (even if it fails) is the quickest way to get people angry at your service < 1625398891 829799 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Reminds me of my favorite bug in a MUD... so, there's money. When you try to pick up more money than you can carry, it'll produce as change the money that you couldn't carry. Now imagine you're overloaded due to another bug... it would produce change corresponding to the amount by which you were overloaded, and give you a negative amount of money, which it conveniently clamped at 0. < 1625399024 66334 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: is there one of these no-javascript whatismyip services that work for ipv6? < 1625399073 30218 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: um... I don't understand that money thing, your statements are a bit unclear < 1625399086 518667 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :also, a MUD with weight limit and money that has a weight? weird < 1625399226 471621 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :is it weird? < 1625399229 295240 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :
ACTION shrugs
< 1625399249 123897 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :no, I probably just played too few MUDs < 1625399257 733224 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :so I find everything weird < 1625399262 819304 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :it had banks, so you didn't have to carry all your riches around at all times < 1625399316 599953 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: let me guess. if you die, you lose half or all your cash but keep the money in the bank, so you have to find an ATM to deposit and withdraw money often as insurance, and the ATM's interface is very annoying < 1625399363 809053 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Normal scenario: You have 1kg capacity left to carry. You pick up 2kg of coins. So that would put you 1kg over the limit. So the code would produce change making up 1kg of coins and leave that in the room. < 1625399394 575532 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Bug scenario: You're 1kg over capacity. You pick up 2kg of coins. So the code produced 3kg coins of change and left that in the room < 1625399408 146046 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :while the -1kg of coins that you'd get in this exchange went poof. < 1625399465 404557 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: `dig -6 +short myip.opendns.com @resolver1.opendns.com aaaa` works for me. < 1625399478 108828 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :
ACTION is actually simplifying because the real combination of bugs was way too convoluted.
< 1625400128 135974 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie: wow, one with a name server interface, that's interesting < 1625400178 589946 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: ah I see. but it doesn't try to produce different denominations of coins, like silver coins if you can't pick up a whole gold coin or something < 1625400253 690193 :Trieste!T@user/pilgrim JOIN #esolangs pilgrim :T < 1625400263 822967 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :yeah, that wouldn't even work with a weight limit, because lower denominations are heavier < 1625400270 709090 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :or at least relatively heavier < 1625400275 517875 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :usually < 1625400324 349117 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: right, it would do this separately for each denomination, actually < 1625400417 382300 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :now I wonder if there's a currency that has two denominations such that a larger denomination coin or banknote is realtively heavier (in proportion to its nominal value) than a smaller one < 1625400536 134263 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :ah, there is < 1625400568 508567 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :the pre-1990 1 HUF aluminium coin was much lighter than the thick and large 2 HUF that's made of normal metals < 1625400668 726882 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coins_of_the_Hungarian_forint#People's_Republic_issues_(1949-1989) says the pre-1990 aluminium 1 HUF coin weighs 1.4 g and the pre-1990 2 HUF coin weighs 5.0 g < 1625400679 345489 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :ah no < 1625400683 850293 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :only 4.44 g < 1625400700 28356 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :apparently 5.0 g is the figure of some older coin of 2 HUF denomination < 1625400707 930862 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :but still it's an example for what I was looking for < 1625400875 650040 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :though perhaps a heavy coin compared to a lighter banknote might also be an example < 1625400892 705538 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :or, for that matter, two different coins with the same denomination is sort of a stupid example < 1625401039 373396 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :The pre-Euro Finnish markka *almost* had that, but not quite: the variant of the 50p coin introduced in 1990 weighed 3.3g, while the 1 FIM coin that stayed current up to 1993 was 6.1g, which is just slightly too light to count. < 1625401117 949025 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :(They were kind of in the process of making them lighter, but staggered the introduction of new coins.) < 1625401342 812674 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Oh, there's an actual example too: between 1977-1982 or so, the new (aluminium) 5p coin was just 0.8g, while the older (aluminium-bronze) 10p coin was a whole 3g. < 1625401636 886390 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think back when the pre-1990 10 and 20 HUF banknotes still existed, even though they were rare because of the pre-1990 10 and 20 HUF coins, the 10 HUF banknote was lighter than the 20 HUF coin < 1625401738 121275 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I mean they were both used as money, obviously copies still exist in collections < 1625401977 776400 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :one thing the MNB managed to do correctly so far is that old forint coins and banknotes can be exchanged in post offices for face value for quite a long time after they're removed from circulation < 1625402000 229930 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :soviet 1 kopeika was weighting exaclty 1 gramm < 1625402007 224171 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :same for 2, 3 and 5 < 1625402050 636313 :hanif!~hanif@gateway/tor-sasl/hanif JOIN #esolangs hanif :hanif < 1625402066 14108 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think I thought that was the normal way how you replace coins and banknotes, and later I learned that a few years ago when the swedish krona coins and notes got replaced, you could exchange them for only a very short time; I also know that you can't exchange finnish marka anymore < 1625402096 593210 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :nakilon: "same" as in they weigh exactly 1 gramm, or they weigh exactly 1 gramm per kopek of face value? < 1625402106 979813 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :per < 1625402140 899657 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :are they made of ordinary metals? < 1625402152 360581 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/91S7NIA1fhL._SS400_.jpg < 1625402205 398102 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :that metal color was red, probably had some copper in it, the higher coins were not < 1625402244 355849 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :these photos show the color better: https://www.amazon.com/USSR-Coins/s?k=USSR+Coins < 1625402261 717724 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_ruble#Coins_3 < 1625402311 894886 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(and yes, ordinary metals) < 1625402329 429306 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :1 Ruble was cool, the largest and the heaviest coin, but was rare < 1625402384 100816 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :wikipedia page table fucks up colors < 1625402583 73026 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :then when Rubles were changed to Grivnyas the 2 kop. coin was of pure aluminium for who knows why for several years < 1625402615 682166 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :it didn't shine and you could draw dark lines with it like with a pencil, it was awful < 1625402826 700986 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :nakilon: it's because aluminium became cheap because of industry developments, and it's light so suitable as cash back when people payed more with cash than now because bank cards were rare or nonexistent, while ordinary coin metals like copper/nickel/zinc/tin/manganese/iron didn't become cheaper < 1625402852 298025 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :in the past, aluminum would have been too expensive for cheap coins < 1625402853 213225 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :the proportial weight was cool in the way that you could just mix all the 1 2 3 and 5 and the total weight in grams would be equal to its price < 1625402972 636780 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :I won't call aluminium cheap -- in 90s all the aluminium on streets was stolen and sold, all the rods, all the wires even < 1625402995 424855 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :nakilon: yes, but the same applies to copper < 1625403014 856261 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :iron is the only metal cheap enough to avoid that < 1625403024 416888 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :if some alcoholic gets into your garden he steals all the aluminium wires that were commonly used to wire plants to vertical rods < 1625403036 986302 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :yes < 1625403085 157834 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :and even iron can be stolen if there's a large amount together, which happened with railway transformers and cables and railway rails, no matter that it often shocks the thieves < 1625403123 45662 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :transformers had copper < 1625403127 730770 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :a lot of bronze statues got stolen < 1625403134 850186 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :nakilon: yeah, that might the reason < 1625403149 928396 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :and rails might be worth more than their metal < 1625403172 950705 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :because they're very standardized so easy to reuse and hard to trace < 1625403180 417747 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :there is a diggers' hobby to find WW2 tanks and ammunition < 1625403195 117165 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :the whole tank sells well as an iron < 1625403203 136786 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :but usually it's only tracks < 1625403213 698375 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :broken tracks that were abandoned < 1625403309 893208 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :as for that, you know how people say that cash is untracable? I wonder how long it will stay that way. a lot of cash is handled in vending machines and banks who already inspect all the banknotes in interesting electronic ways to catch counterfeats and remove damaged or old banknotes from circulation. I think from a technical point it would be easy for banks and vending machines to read the unique < 1625403315 842539 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :serial number from each banknote, so it's only a legal and political question for when banks start to do that for most banknote cash transactions and collect the data to a shared serial database. < 1625403353 83331 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :and technologically it even gets easier, because once banks do that, new banknotes can be printed with serial numbers in a format that's easier for machines to read, and then more vending machines can read them < 1625403362 876312 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :not sure about rails -- you can't just meld them together in the way no one would notice -- they are numbered and periodically checked with ultrasound < 1625403400 434795 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :cash never was untraceable, they are all numbered < 1625403403 779024 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I don't really understand the political side, but I think it would be easy to introduce by scope creep: first say that it's supposedly only against things that everyone hates: counterfeits and money laundering. < 1625403434 566732 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :the trace is just lost when you use cash without a cash register < 1625403459 944770 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :like... enter some shop and ask them for exchange < 1625403460 625199 :hanif!~hanif@gateway/tor-sasl/hanif QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1625403499 485376 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :then extend to catch money used for services that are clearly illegal and that I won't name here, then to services that can technically be done legally but most payment providers will ban you for it, then to things that ebay bans, then to trace things that youtube demonetizes you for, then to catch large scale tax evasion in construction industry, then finally to catch small scale tax evasion for < 1625403505 911146 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :ordinary businesses and individuals. < 1625403519 455153 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh I mean not just cash register but ATMs < 1625403522 240332 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :nakilon: yes, but you don't need to trace every transaction perfectly, you just need to trace enough of it until it becomes hard to use < 1625403527 147337 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :cash registers don't scan numbers < 1625403538 761119 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :yes, ATMs too, not just banks and vending machines < 1625403586 687285 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :banks are already pushing for people to use these fancy new ATMs where you can insert banknotes and it scans them without manual intervention and pays the money on your bank account, so you can use ATMs in both directions < 1625403595 908904 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :all this applies to banknotes only, not coins, but that's not a problem < 1625403661 931674 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :so I think if such large scale tracing isn't done yet, it will be in two decades < 1625403674 201017 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :and cash will no longer count as untracable < 1625403700 471618 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :when I tell someone about the data mining and stuff and the persons laughs "no one stole anything from me, ahaha, you are paranoid, I am smart, ahaha" -- I wish I could someone telepathically make that person understand the amount of stupidity I see in them < 1625403741 619564 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :that said many of the people who mention this usually contrast it with payment methods from bank cards and bank accounts, and cryptocurrency, so they do have a valid point that currently cash is less tracable than other common payment methods < 1625403741 788066 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :maybe the language needs some words for illiteracy measurement < 1625403775 986521 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :the virus easily made people switch to card, even me < 1625403869 93048 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :but they also love to demonstrate in stores: "hey people around me, look! I pay with phone! look I pay with watches!" -- not even understanding that it's absolutely opposite from being handy, and they spend much more time paying in this way than it was using cash because the device battery dies or it's just lagging, etc. < 1625404070 18208 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :it's important to understand that they don't believe in things not just because they didn't get any true evidence of stuff but purely because of stubbornness because in fact no evidence in the world would change their minds, even if Zukerberg would say "dudes, I was stealing, I was fooling", they would say "we don't give a shit" just because < 1625404070 173465 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :admitting that they were always wrong would be too butthurting < 1625404094 549654 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :I just feel to much disgust to this phenomenon < 1625404131 765667 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :the "pay with phone" thing I don't understand. I carry with me three important items: a wallet of money, a mobile phone, and my home keys. If a pickpocket steals them from me, I'd rather they not steal two at the same time, because I can use the others to ask for help, eg. I can use phone to call my relatives who have a spare key or use money for the same, if money is stolen I go home with keys and grab < 1625404137 857419 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :spare money or card, so I keep the three separately. paying with phone seems like you put your bank card and your phone in the same place, ready to be stolen together. < 1625404185 41252 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(well, in reality it's five important items that I should keep separately, but I simply can't figure out how to keep five things separately and easy to reach and hard to pickpocket, so they just go in four locations) < 1625404202 681513 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :I realised that people are fools not because they were not told the truth but purely because it's their level of illiteracy and arrogance when even the "I worked for Facebook" argument was absolutely nothing for them < 1625404238 323595 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :yeah I switched to topic, sorry < 1625404259 884147 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :the topic of tracking the people is just what annoys me < 1625404268 599016 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :*fact of < 1625404341 330327 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I really wish I could solve this, but there seems to be no easy solution. if I keep anything really important in my backpack, I'm afraid it gets stolen. if I keep anything in my shirt or coat, I'll misplace it. that leaves my jeans and a small belt loop bag. jean back pockets are limited: most things would get damaged and/or would be inconvenient to sit on, so I only store one of the five things there. < 1625404347 337079 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :that leaves a small bag and two front pockets for four items. < 1625404366 192536 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :perhaps I should try to get a second belt loop bag. I have worn such for a compact camera occasionally. < 1625404382 649722 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :when they say "no one stole from me anything" they are smiling like if the demonstrating own illiteracy was something to be proud of < 1625404433 406491 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :and they don't even care if there is a one person like you who is disgusted because all other people around that they are carefully filtering believe that everything is ok < 1625404485 66373 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :what about inside pockets? < 1625404591 979479 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :nakilon: inside pockets are in the jacket, which I can replace or not wear some day and won't think of moving items from it < 1625404618 901185 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I (usually) don't forget moving items when switching jeans < 1625404664 990508 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :there are freaks who implant credit cards under their skin < 1625404691 581769 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :there should be anonymous-friendly yet useful implants < 1625404701 27296 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I should probably consider storing my keys in my backpack, and storing IDs in my right jean pocket where I normally have the keys < 1625404714 1818 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :or was it a guy who implanted a metro ticket < 1625404864 957251 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :in the apartments where I live people are taught to use the same device to open their house doors and enter the metro < 1625404938 134335 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :while the metro (subway, whatever) was ALWAYS known to be stealing the data -- the WiFi ALWAYS had the broken certificates and mobile devices tell you that ut NO ONE cares and millions of people use the wifi every day < 1625405006 549545 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :even after articles where dudes have sniffed the wifi traffic to see that there are data flying around that tracks every wifi user with such attributes like phone number, estimated age, estimated salary, estimated home and job locations, education level, etc. < 1625405100 120197 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :and to see that they are tracking this it wasn't even needed to hack their databases -- it's only what was leaking to the wifi lan; the metro tracks every wifi user about where he lives, works, studies, what's his family status, etc. -- it was all discovered and no one still cares < 1625405183 337455 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :people are still using the Mosgortrans Wifi that is in metro and buses, not caring at all when the device says "dude the certificates are invalid", and so the Mosgortrans that is already exposed several times to track the data clearly can read all the traffic but no one cares < 1625405328 755463 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :so now this company is partnering with companies who build new apartments -- they are now offering the way to pay for metro with the keys, so no metro doesn't need to estimate your location -- they have your personal data directly, knowing which flat you own, your full identity < 1625405508 979684 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :this is a sample sniffed packed https://dpaste.org/YBED/slim < 1625405519 508698 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :*packet < 1625405561 73069 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :here is another view https://tproger.ru/s3/uploads/2018/04/hash.jpg < 1625405588 832652 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :they even track if you are married < 1625405867 947919 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :the articles even explain that there are standard hacking utilities that you can use in the way that you just stalk the person from one wagon to another until you identify his MAC or you can make it faster by filtering by model/laptop model that is also tracked < 1625405912 398263 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :when you identify the person the metro wifi gives you this person's phone number and all this datamined data < 1625405926 210315 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :metro/bus < 1625406141 471759 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :did anyone make any conclusions when these articles were published on the most popular IT-related website of the country that everyone knows? nope. people are absolutely okay with that come company tracks everything about them -- they just say "so what? how can they use it against me? they can't take money from my pocket, ahaha" and not even the < 1625406141 624593 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :fact that they read all their traffic, i.e. email, etc., makes any sense to them < 1625407698 641797 :hanif!~hanif@gateway/tor-sasl/hanif JOIN #esolangs hanif :hanif < 1625407939 150445 :imode!~imode@user/imode JOIN #esolangs imode :imode < 1625409080 306967 :immibis!~immibis@62.156.144.218 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1625409115 239779 :immibis!~immibis@62.156.144.218 JOIN #esolangs immibis :realname < 1625410240 196916 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.6.151.dynamic.ufanet.ru QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1625410763 578083 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.6.151.dynamic.ufanet.ru JOIN #esolangs * :the chaotic arseniiv > 1625411511 874520 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07BIT14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=85674&oldid=77824 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+85) 10Add implementation from website, fix cats < 1625411682 225455 :Noisytoot!noisytoot@sourcehut/user/noisytoot QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1625412234 366054 :Trieste_!T@user/pilgrim JOIN #esolangs pilgrim :T < 1625412272 607500 :Trieste!T@user/pilgrim QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1625412609 285402 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :should I rename "Esolang categories intersector" into "Esolang cats intersector" < 1625412824 675987 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.6.151.dynamic.ufanet.ru QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1625413060 218027 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN #esolangs oerjan :Ørjan Johansen > 1625413334 466441 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07S3C (sssc)14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=85675&oldid=85669 5* 03Spargle 5* (+0) 10/* Links: */ > 1625413476 182575 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Common-S3C14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=85676&oldid=85573 5* 03Spargle 5* (+0) 10/* Links: */ > 1625413863 934999 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Common-S3C14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=85677&oldid=85676 5* 03Spargle 5* (+0) 10/* Links: */ > 1625413910 515338 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07S3C (sssc)14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=85678&oldid=85675 5* 03Spargle 5* (+0) 10/* Links: */ < 1625413925 898219 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esolangs :>hi < 1625413930 299021 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esolangs :^prefixes < 1625413930 356508 :fungot!fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::a PRIVMSG #esolangs :fungot ^, HackEso `, EgoBot !, lambdabot @ or ? or >, thutubot +, metasepia ~, idris-bot ( , jconn ) , j-bot [, bfbot =, velik \. < 1625413939 925968 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esolangs :`? prefixes < 1625413941 995716 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Bot prefixes: fungot ^, HackEso `, EgoBot !, lambdabot @ or ?, thutubot +, metasepia ~, idris-bot ( , jconn ) , j-bot [ , bfbot =, velik \. < 1625413954 914875 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esolangs :perlbot prefixes < 1625413955 240581 :perlbot!~perlbot@perlbot/bot/simcop2387/perlbot PRIVMSG #esolangs :oerjan: Bot prefixes: fungot ^, HackEso `, EgoBot !, lambdabot @ or ? or >, thutubot +, metasepia ~, idris-bot ( , jconn ) , j-bot [ , bfbot =, velik \. < 1625414062 578877 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esolangs :*sigh* < 1625414068 628517 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esolangs :`? prefixe < 1625414070 699969 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :prefixes Bot prefixes: fungot ^, HackEso `, EgoBot !, lambdabot @ or ? or >, thutubot +, metasepia ~, idris-bot ( , jconn ) , j-bot [ , bfbot =, velik \. < 1625414078 303056 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esolangs :`forget prefixe < 1625414080 941042 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Forget what? < 1625414273 147702 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.6.151.dynamic.ufanet.ru JOIN #esolangs * :the chaotic arseniiv < 1625414317 606304 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esolangs :`le/rn prefixes//Bot prefixes: fungot ^, HackEso `, EgoBot !, lambdabot @ or ? or > , thutubot +, metasepia ~, idris-bot ( , jconn ) , j-bot [ , bfbot =, velik \. < 1625414317 842653 :fungot!fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::a PRIVMSG #esolangs :oerjan: but bsmnt_bot isn't throttled, but not enough to put pics with an alpha value, there's problems with every language is interpreted < 1625414321 164032 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Relearned 'prefixes': Bot prefixes: fungot ^, HackEso `, EgoBot !, lambdabot @ or ? or > , thutubot +, metasepia ~, idris-bot ( , jconn ) , j-bot [ , bfbot =, velik \. < 1625414370 781354 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esolangs :^def prefixes ul (fungot ^, HackEso `, EgoBot !, lambdabot @ or ? or > , thutubot +, metasepia ~, idris-bot ( , jconn ) , j-bot [, bfbot =, velik \.)S < 1625414370 836812 :fungot!fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::a PRIVMSG #esolangs :Defined. < 1625414380 136282 :Noisytoot!noisytoot@sourcehut/user/noisytoot JOIN #esolangs Noisytoot :Ron < 1625414380 230824 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esolangs :^prefixes < 1625414380 246656 :fungot!fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::a PRIVMSG #esolangs :fungot ^, HackEso `, EgoBot !, lambdabot @ or ? or > , thutubot +, metasepia ~, idris-bot ( , jconn ) , j-bot [, bfbot =, velik \. < 1625414386 478806 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esolangs :`prefixes < 1625414388 768732 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Bot prefixes: fungot ^, HackEso `, EgoBot !, lambdabot @ or ? or > , thutubot +, metasepia ~, idris-bot ( , jconn ) , j-bot [ , bfbot =, velik \. < 1625414446 901117 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esolangs :^def prefixes ul (Bot prefixes: fungot ^, HackEso `, EgoBot !, lambdabot @ or ? or > , thutubot +, metasepia ~, idris-bot ( , jconn ) , j-bot [, bfbot =, velik \.)S < 1625414446 957373 :fungot!fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::a PRIVMSG #esolangs :Defined. < 1625414452 536637 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esolangs :^prefixes < 1625414452 591575 :fungot!fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::a PRIVMSG #esolangs :Bot prefixes: fungot ^, HackEso `, EgoBot !, lambdabot @ or ? or > , thutubot +, metasepia ~, idris-bot ( , jconn ) , j-bot [, bfbot =, velik \. < 1625414467 433623 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esolangs :perlbot prefixes < 1625414467 723105 :perlbot!~perlbot@perlbot/bot/simcop2387/perlbot PRIVMSG #esolangs :oerjan: Bot prefixes: fungot ^, HackEso `, EgoBot !, lambdabot @ or ? or >, thutubot +, metasepia ~, idris-bot ( , jconn ) , j-bot [ , bfbot =, velik \. < 1625414690 249895 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esolangs :perlbot learn prefixes are Bot prefixes: fungot ^, HackEso `, EgoBot !, lambdabot @ or ? or > , thutubot +, metasepia ~, idris-bot ( , jconn ) , j-bot [ , bfbot =, velik \. < 1625414690 469164 :fungot!fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::a PRIVMSG #esolangs :oerjan: ratty is the name ' nine inch nails crowd?' as ' sine' should pronounce ' char'...? < 1625414691 15954 :perlbot!~perlbot@perlbot/bot/simcop2387/perlbot PRIVMSG #esolangs :oerjan: Stored prefixes as Bot prefixes: fungot ^, HackEso `, EgoBot !, lambdabot @ or ? or > , thutubot +, metasepia ~, idris-bot ( , jconn ) , j-bot [ , bfbot =, velik \. < 1625414708 262958 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esolangs :perlbot prefixes < 1625414708 573687 :perlbot!~perlbot@perlbot/bot/simcop2387/perlbot PRIVMSG #esolangs :oerjan: Bot prefixes: fungot ^, HackEso `, EgoBot !, lambdabot @ or ? or > , thutubot +, metasepia ~, idris-bot ( , jconn ) , j-bot [ , bfbot =, velik \. < 1625414720 554248 :FireFly!firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :\.help < 1625414737 737583 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh wait < 1625414741 767625 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esolangs :*sigh* < 1625414744 14540 :FireFly!firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :.help < 1625414767 456600 :FireFly!firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :
ACTION can't tell if it's supposed to be an escaped dot or verbatim backslash dot
< 1625414772 594654 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esolangs :perlbot prefixes < 1625414772 916850 :perlbot!~perlbot@perlbot/bot/simcop2387/perlbot PRIVMSG #esolangs :oerjan: Bot prefixes: fungot ^, HackEso `, EgoBot !, lambdabot @ or ? or > , thutubot +, metasepia ~, idris-bot ( , jconn ) , j-bot [ , bfbot =, velik \. < 1625414777 728062 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esolangs :^prefixes < 1625414777 783989 :fungot!fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::a PRIVMSG #esolangs :Bot prefixes: fungot ^, HackEso `, EgoBot !, lambdabot @ or ? or > , thutubot +, metasepia ~, idris-bot ( , jconn ) , j-bot [, bfbot =, velik \. < 1625414782 876270 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esolangs :`prefixes < 1625414785 25644 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Bot prefixes: fungot ^, HackEso `, EgoBot !, lambdabot @ or ? or > , thutubot +, metasepia ~, idris-bot ( , jconn ) , j-bot [ , bfbot =, velik \. < 1625414849 627243 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esolangs :argh < 1625414918 131585 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esolangs :^def prefixes ul (Bot prefixes: fungot ^, HackEso `, EgoBot !, lambdabot @ or ? or > , thutubot +, metasepia ~, idris-bot ( , jconn ) , j-bot [ , bfbot =, velik \.)S < 1625414918 187940 :fungot!fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::a PRIVMSG #esolangs :Defined. < 1625414930 395405 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esolangs :ok now i hope they are identical. < 1625415035 173067 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esolangs :^prefixes < 1625415035 229673 :fungot!fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::a PRIVMSG #esolangs :Bot prefixes: fungot ^, HackEso `, EgoBot !, lambdabot @ or ? or > , thutubot +, metasepia ~, idris-bot ( , jconn ) , j-bot [ , bfbot =, velik \. < 1625415178 118458 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :It sure is a good thing we've got balanced parentheses in prefixes. < 1625415232 488805 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :FireFly: it's a backslash, the dot ends the sentence < 1625415236 1347 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :\help < 1625415236 145449 :velik!~velik@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :available commands: ["rasel", "morse", "demorse", "ruby"]; usage help: \help < 1625415278 610330 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :oerjan: oh, it was under prefixes, not prefixe? sorry < 1625415319 910830 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :oerjan: oh, it was under prefixes, not prefixe? sorry < 1625415323 59848 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :`? rules of wisdom < 1625415325 247833 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :unless essential for the entry‘s humor, \ they should: be understandable without the lookup key, be single spaced and end in a newline with no space before that, and use proper capitalization and punctuation < 1625415364 527976 :FireFly!firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: ...oh < 1625415396 381515 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :\ruby system %q(ls /tmp; df); # FireFly: this is the latest command, an evaluator < 1625415409 402279 :velik!~velik@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :thread error < 1625415441 139880 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :\ruby system %q(ls /tmp; df); # FireFly: this is the latest command, an evaluator < 1625415451 201509 :velik!~velik@62.241.154.104.bc.googleusercontent.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :thread error < 1625415455 130330 :FireFly!firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :
ACTION pets velik
< 1625415460 452214 :FireFly!firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :it's okay < 1625415600 880262 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie: i lobbied for jconn to get that prefix for that precise reason < 1625415632 249850 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esolangs :before that i used bf. it was painful. < 1625415653 431346 :FreeFull!~freefull@user-5-173-138-76.play-internet.pl JOIN #esolangs FreeFull :FreeFull < 1625416728 622699 :hanif!~hanif@gateway/tor-sasl/hanif QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds > 1625416730 671522 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03BurningApparatus 5* 10New user account < 1625417460 341693 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Later < 1625417562 673697 :mnrmnaugh!~mnrmnaugh@pool-96-252-87-182.bstnma.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving > 1625418163 319934 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07A:;14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=85679&oldid=63932 5* 03OrichalcumCosmonaut 5* (+203) 10re-add fizzbuzz example that was accidentally deleted > 1625418210 356969 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07A:;14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=85680&oldid=85679 5* 03OrichalcumCosmonaut 5* (+4) 10make the fizzbuzz section header a link like the others < 1625418887 986442 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo JOIN #esolangs Sgeo :realname > 1625420375 103912 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Pointless14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=85681&oldid=63537 5* 03Traveller 5* (+461) 10Reflection on a property formerly held to be true. < 1625420498 375808 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: Yes, but were there any such keyboards used for purposes other than punching holes in cards? (When you have constrainted space and not many keys, it might be helpful) > 1625420523 211769 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Pointless14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=85682&oldid=79210 5* 03Traveller 5* (+66) 10 > 1625420555 387287 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Pointless14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=85683&oldid=85682 5* 03Traveller 5* (+1) 10 < 1625420818 381987 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :(Just, I don't really like the existing methods of text entry on telephone keypads, and I think that Hollerith chording would be better way of entering text on numeric keypads. If you have a full keyboard that is better, but that won't work when you do not have a full keyboard) < 1625421085 986556 :riv!~river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :Hollerith chording? > 1625421148 571255 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Pointless14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=85684&oldid=85681 5* 03Traveller 5* (+230) 10 < 1625421231 938204 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :riv: Meaning a numeric keypad (and another key for a space); if you push a number by itself then it makes a number, but if you push in combination with - & or other numbers then you can make alphabets/punctuations. < 1625421248 62700 :riv!~river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :how does it work? < 1625421394 747061 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :riv: The possible combinations are shown in the picture: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4c/Blue-punch-card-front-horiz.png So, pushing 0 and 2 together makes "T", and pushing & and 1 together makes "A". > 1625421445 330425 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Pointless14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=85685&oldid=85683 5* 03Traveller 5* (+117) 10 < 1625421508 717625 :riv!~river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :I see < 1625421519 10408 :riv!~river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :this would take a long time to learn to use < 1625421526 230695 :riv!~river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :and could be bad fpr fingers < 1625421666 228319 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :I dislike the more common methods though (such as pushing the numbers until it comes up the letters that you want and waiting for delays or explicitly skipping) < 1625421689 100428 :riv!~river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :yeah < 1625421972 956093 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :I also dislike touch screen < 1625423612 148307 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN #esolangs oerjan :Ørjan Johansen < 1625426114 118388 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esolangs :cal 7 1776 < 1625426118 737341 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esolangs :oops < 1625426147 153543 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esolangs :so wrong window :P < 1625426199 116913 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esolangs :
ACTION is playing with doomsdays and was checking if he got it right
< 1625427576 78023 :riv!~river@tilde.team/user/river QUIT :Quit: Leaving > 1625429117 747695 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07S3C (sssc)14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=85686&oldid=85678 5* 03Spargle 5* (-84) 10/* Links: */ > 1625429159 574052 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Common-S3C14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=85687&oldid=85677 5* 03Spargle 5* (-84) 10/* Links: */ > 1625429212 120763 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Common-S3C14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=85688&oldid=85687 5* 03Spargle 5* (-4) 10/* The world's stupidest language. */ < 1625429827 247989 :shikhin!~shikhin@offtopia/offtopian QUIT :Quit: brb < 1625430210 894005 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1625430991 688847 :riv!~river@tilde.team/user/river JOIN #esolangs river :river > 1625431650 52597 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07S3C (sssc)14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=85689&oldid=85686 5* 03Spargle 5* (-4) 10/* The world's stupidest language. */ < 1625434172 170453 :riv!~river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://i.postimg.cc/q4nqtWRt/s-l1600.jpg zzo38 < 1625435395 646126 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :looks like scrambled rubik's cude < 1625435397 553509 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :*b > 1625435682 180686 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Skelozard 5* 10New user account > 1625435896 569397 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=85690&oldid=85659 5* 03Skelozard 5* (+146) 10/* Introductions */ > 1625435901 300010 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:PokBattle14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=85691 5* 03Skelozard 5* (+205) 10Created page with "I've created a [https://github.com/Educorreia932/PokeBattle Python interpreter] for PokBattle. I tried to stay as close as possible to the original specification and it has..." < 1625437152 153766 :arseniiv!~arseniiv@94.41.6.151.dynamic.ufanet.ru QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1625437924 259435 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1625439699 185240 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@2a02:ab88:6:9f00:d65d:64ff:fe3a:f77f JOIN #esolangs * :[https://web.libera.chat] wib_jonas < 1625439746 383144 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@2a02:ab88:6:9f00:d65d:64ff:fe3a:f77f PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh great. ISP is doing weird things again. for like 20 minutes the whole internet connection was down. now it's mostly down, but a few ranges of hosts like this webchat are reachable. < 1625440032 364935 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@2a02:ab88:6:9f00:d65d:64ff:fe3a:f77f PRIVMSG #esolangs :perlbot eval "or at least I think it's reachable,"; "pong" < 1625440034 29589 :perlbot!~perlbot@perlbot/bot/simcop2387/perlbot PRIVMSG #esolangs :wib_jonas: pong 🇺🇸 < 1625440376 489694 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@2a02:ab88:6:9f00:d65d:64ff:fe3a:f77f PRIVMSG #esolangs :direct IRC connections and most other hosts still don't work < 1625441006 506505 :FreeFull!~freefull@user-5-173-138-76.play-internet.pl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1625441183 246287 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.242.178 JOIN #esolangs ais523 :(this is obviously not my real name) < 1625442028 161472 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu JOIN #esolangs * :b_jonas < 1625442058 99478 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-12-145.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :well I think now it's working, after power cycling the cable modem router the second time < 1625442115 169563 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@2a02:ab88:6:9f00:d65d:64ff:fe3a:f77f QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds