00:19:00 -!- Koen_ has quit (Quit: Leaving...). 00:28:54 [[Haltingfuck]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=86808&oldid=86805 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (-22) /* UnHaltingFuck */ Cat 01:17:10 [[Something]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=86809&oldid=86326 * PixelatedStarfish * (+3) /* Instructions */ 01:17:35 [[Something]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=86810&oldid=86809 * PixelatedStarfish * (+0) /* Instructions */ 02:36:09 -!- SGautam has quit (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity). 02:38:56 -!- perlbot has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds). 02:39:22 -!- simcop2387 has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 03:05:15 -!- simcop2387 has joined. 03:06:14 -!- perlbot has joined. 04:03:35 -!- hendursaga has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 04:04:02 -!- hendursaga has joined. 04:29:55 -!- delta23 has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 04:30:14 -!- delta23 has joined. 04:41:45 -!- oerjan has joined. 05:51:21 -!- delta23 has quit (Quit: Leaving). 06:03:50 -!- imode has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds). 06:18:33 -!- Sgeo has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 06:19:30 -!- SGautam has joined. 06:22:19 -!- Lord_of_Life_ has joined. 06:23:32 -!- Lord_of_Life has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 06:23:34 -!- Lord_of_Life_ has changed nick to Lord_of_Life. 06:57:43 21:03:36 there's a lot of free parameters to mess with 06:57:48 I had only two 06:58:32 one real parameter and another one -- I took only 15000 of 50000 of input strings, heh, or it would take a day to calculate 06:59:29 22:42:20 nakilon, https://bpa.st/5P6A 06:59:36 yeah only 3 first are good, the rest is broken 07:01:21 the next valid word is only 37, and 20 is a Russian word if you strip the _ 07:01:47 rabota = job 07:02:56 I suppose 15000 is big enough to not miss popular words, among the top-100 list that it produced 07:03:16 the next 100 had several errors, didn't count 07:08:44 117 nofficial 160 erchat 164 ernet 175 nchain etc. and some of them are weird but can be real words from languages I don't know 07:57:28 -!- riv has quit (Quit: Leaving). 08:06:05 -!- hendursa1 has joined. 08:08:26 -!- hendursaga has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds). 08:58:13 Stupid chrome forgets basic auth both on desktop and mobile 08:58:28 I use it for my thelounge 09:14:18 -!- Koen_ has joined. 09:39:36 -!- arseniiv has joined. 10:24:24 -!- oerjan has quit (Quit: Later). 10:34:26 -!- hendursa1 has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 10:34:47 -!- hendursa1 has joined. 11:38:04 -!- arseniiv has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds). 11:52:47 -!- Koen_ has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 12:40:49 -!- PinealGlandOptic has quit (Quit: leaving). 13:04:23 [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * Gducrash * New user account 13:15:11 [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=86811&oldid=86795 * Gducrash * (+229) /* Introductions */ 13:23:43 -!- Sgeo has joined. 13:42:45 [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * Zouguangchen * New user account 14:18:32 [[LTMCBCBYCII]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=86812&oldid=86800 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (-4) Unpipe 14:21:50 -!- arseniiv has joined. 15:31:43 -!- imode has joined. 15:40:42 -!- Koen_ has joined. 15:46:41 -!- riv has joined. 16:27:31 hi 16:28:20 `" 16:28:22 1/1:892) okay so like do Or do not? no no do There is no do not. \ 824) Do physicists have half-life crises? 16:29:57 wow 16:30:02 `', 16:30:06 ​',? No such file or directory 16:30:41 `' 16:30:43 852) yes Windows 98 installer, please perform a bad blocks scan of your virtual emulated hard drive you have no idea how completely i control your so-called reality 16:30:49 A single quote and a double quote. Checks out. 16:33:53 -!- Koen_ has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 16:49:02 https://gitlab.com/gpsd/gpsd/-/issues/144 is funny: "We would have gotten away with it too if there had been a leap second in the meantime" 17:03:10 -!- SGautam has quit (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity). 17:06:35 Woah, I'd never heard of global warming making Earth spin faster. 17:07:14 (apparently explaining the recent lack of leap seconds) 17:07:29 we literally can't predict leap seconds 17:07:38 there's never been any leap seconds removed either 17:08:10 that's what I thought so far :P 17:09:42 Hmm, maybe I have the orders of magnitude incorrect. 17:10:38 [[User:Epidemic7]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=86813&oldid=83961 * Epidemic7 * (-220) Blanked the page 17:12:53 So, eh, not sure it explains anything. But it's still an interesting phenomenon. I /think/ it says that the effect slightly outweighs the tidal slowdown in their scenario, resulting in a speedup of 0.12ms over 200 years rather than a slowdown by 4.6ms. 17:13:14 But the article could be written more clearly... 17:14:24 I read that the causes of variation of spin time are not all known 17:14:30 and the ones that are known are chaotic 17:16:20 More weirdness: "Over the past 3000 years, the core of the Earth has been speeding up a little, and the mantle-crust on which we stand is slowing down." https://phys.org/news/2015-12-scientists-reveal-rotation-earth-core.html 17:16:37 D: 17:19:17 Ah, at least there are a couple of mechanisms that I can understand: 1) As glaciers melt, melted water moves closer to the Earth's axis. 2) As arctic and antarctic ice melt, there's less pressure pushing the poles into the earth, so it becomes a little bit rounder, moving the whole surface closer to the center. 17:19:42 And by "understand" I mean they're plausible :P 17:20:29 I have no hope of estimating how big those effects are without some serious study. 17:23:56 (Which won't happen :P) 17:26:01 [[Headass]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=86814&oldid=86780 * TheJonyMyster * (+32) cornercase 17:36:07 -!- hendursa1 has quit (Quit: hendursa1). 17:37:05 -!- hendursaga has joined. 17:55:15 -!- lukalot_ has joined. 18:02:04 -!- arseniiv has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds). 18:04:10 -!- arseniiv has joined. 18:17:46 [[Minim]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=86815&oldid=86791 * KakkoiiChris * (-57) Reduced section levels by one, and added a 'Design Pattern' section 18:19:18 -!- riv has quit (Quit: Leaving). 18:19:42 [[Minim]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=86816&oldid=86815 * KakkoiiChris * (-24) /* History */ Removed section separators 18:22:06 -!- Koen_ has joined. 18:36:34 [[Minim]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=86817&oldid=86816 * KakkoiiChris * (+152) /* Values */ Testing same page link 18:36:56 [[Minim]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=86818&oldid=86817 * KakkoiiChris * (+0) /* Values */ 18:40:09 [[Minim]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=86819&oldid=86818 * KakkoiiChris * (+5) /* Values */ Added note about integers and conversion 18:42:11 [[Minim]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=86820&oldid=86819 * KakkoiiChris * (-7) /* V4 */ Changed wording of data type in last paragraph 18:44:04 -!- lukalot__ has joined. 18:44:05 -!- lukalot__ has quit (Client Quit). 18:44:37 [[Minim]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=86821&oldid=86820 * KakkoiiChris * (+80) /* V5 */ Added memory space upgrade to new features added 18:57:40 [[Minim]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=86822&oldid=86821 * KakkoiiChris * (+484) Added more planned sections 18:57:58 [[User:ZippyMagician]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=86823&oldid=86408 * ZippyMagician * (-2) Remove befunge from favorites 19:03:36 [[Minim]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=86824&oldid=86822 * KakkoiiChris * (-5) /* History */ Moved sentence from V2 to V1 19:09:48 -!- riv has joined. 19:22:42 -!- riv has quit (Quit: Leaving). 19:33:29 [[AsciiFunc]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=86825 * Gducrash * (+1400) Initial release (work in progress) 19:42:33 -!- Koen_ has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 19:44:24 -!- Koen_ has joined. 20:04:57 Swiss Ephemeris has a function for tidal acceleration; is that related to things that you mention? 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21:52:29 Where did starships come up? 21:55:17 They didn't, that was apropos of nothing. 21:55:54 I was reading an article about some photos Uncle Elon had posted in the context of an orbital visit. 21:56:20 Well, still lifes aren't considered to be starships, so maybe that's your answer. 21:56:40 Ah, that thing. 21:57:06 Aren't those called spaceships in Life anyway? 21:57:08 -!- Thelie has joined. 21:57:50 Ah, right. 21:58:20 If Elon's was called the Spaceship, I couldn't complain, because it does go to space. 21:58:56 I see. What about a solar probe? 21:59:53 I guess that could be a starship. Have we actually sent anything into the Sun though? 22:00:40 "The Parker Solar Probe is the first spacecraft to fly into the low solar corona." Maybe that will count. 22:01:29 Although they say it'll be "within 9.86 solar radii -- from the center of the Sun", and I guess really it should be strictly less than 1. 22:01:48 -!- riv has quit (Quit: Leaving). 22:02:39 "The solar radius is usually defined as the radius to the layer in the Sun's photosphere where the optical depth equals 2/3." Sounds pretty arbitrary. 22:03:25 oh, so it's not a starship unless it actually burns up in one? 22:05:07 Well, I mean, I think that's maybe a little negative. But I think maybe it should either touch a star, or alternatively there should exist a point during its journey when the nearest star is not the same as at some other point. 22:05:14 Hmm, can C++ break out of several loops without using goto yet... 22:05:23 (not exceptions) 22:05:29 s/not/nor/ 22:06:26 I don't think they've added that. 22:06:30 Pfft: "No, don't spoil it with a break. This is the last remaining stronghold for the use of goto." 22:06:47 I mean the Vikings already knew that burning ships is the way to go. 22:07:13 Which languages have a multi-level break where the operand is an integer denoting the number of loops to break, rather than a label? And of those languages, how many allow the integer to be non-constant? 22:07:30 PHP at least. 22:07:33 Oh boy. 22:07:46 Actually, I don't know if it can be a non-constant, but I'd sort of expect. 22:08:44 "PHP Fatal error: 'break' operator with non-integer operand is no longer supported" :/ :\ 22:08:54 I do note the "no longer" in there though. 22:09:06 TFW... bugs make your program better. 22:11:40 PHP is now developed by a bunch of cowards. 22:11:47 I bet they don't use strlen as their hash function anymore either. 22:18:50 fizzie: I think dc has such a multi-level break 22:19:31 UGH, why do people hate contrast so much 22:19:59 (cf. source code examples from https://esolangs.org/wiki/Minim ...except for the yellow used for brackets) 22:20:09 it's the Q command in dc 22:21:27 -!- Melvar has joined. 22:21:50 int-e: That's a pretty excessive example. Especially the string literals and comments. 22:22:28 fizzie: oh, and there's Intercal, I think it has a dynamic multi-level break too 22:22:45 -!- Melvar has quit (Client Quit). 22:23:06 -!- Melvar has joined. 22:23:41 [[Minim]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=86834&oldid=86833 * KakkoiiChris * (+144) /* Statements */ Added Memory Push and Memory Pop stubs 22:24:16 well, it's a multi-level return 22:24:26 (same for dc) 22:24:35 it's not quite the same :P 22:25:06 "This is because the easiest way to implement an if-like construct in INTERCAL-72 is by NEXTING, then NEXTING again, then RESUMING either by 1 or 2 according to an expression, and then if the expression evaluated to 1 FORGETTING the remaining NEXT stack entry." It's a nice manual. 22:25:35 does words (the program in HackEso) have an evaluate mode, as opposed to a generate mode, so that you give it a word, and it outputs the information (log probability) in it based on the model? 22:26:09 I don't think it has that implemented. 22:26:21 int-e: ok, but in dc about the only way to write a loop is by repeatedly executing a macro, so that's what a multi-level break should look like 22:26:27 as in tail-recursing a macro 22:26:55 yeah, which is why I only interjected when you brought it up for intercal 22:27:50 I think you need some lexical blocks in the language in order for a dynamic multi-level break to feel ridiculous. 22:28:12 Can a PHP break cross function boundaries? 22:28:21 I think I saw something like this in a language besides the ones we mentioned 22:28:58 [[Minim]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=86835&oldid=86834 * KakkoiiChris * (+4) /* Fibonacci */ Added link 22:29:25 I ended up with this... https://paste.debian.net/1206394/ (top: what I wanted, bottom: the result) 22:30:24 err, I messed up the hypothetical code, didn't I. 22:30:26 whatever 22:31:36 ah yes, (0) has multi-level break using a number that gives the depth, but only for a constant depth, not dynamic. the language spec doesn't say if it works past a function boundary, I assumed no because that was convenient because I wanted to transpile the language, not implement something in it. 22:32:09 that's where I must have seen it 22:32:56 `BEGIN AGAIN` in Forth is an infinite loop, which doesn't really fit the English meaning of that sentence fragment. 22:32:57 BEGIN? No such file or directory 22:36:07 Wonder if there's any production Forth code that says at some point ... THEN BEGIN AGAIN ... that's there, e.g., to give a supposedly unreachable piece of code defined semantics of just hanging up in there. 22:38:42 `` ulimit -t 1; forth ': foo if ." all good" exit then begin again ; 0 foo' # or something along those lines 22:38:44 ​/hackenv/bin/`: line 5: 52 Killed forth ': foo if ." all good" exit then begin again ; 0 foo' 22:42:21 fizzie: is that like the infamous {redo} in perl? 22:43:33 which geo knows as (*) 22:43:57 (shows that you can express useless stuff easily in that language, but not useful stuff) 22:45:43 apparently today's https://xkcd.com/2497/ mentions something that has come up often on #esoteric 22:53:23 Forth control structures are pretty flexible. The compilation semantics of `BEGIN` push the address of the next word to the control-flow stack, and `AGAIN` pops it. `UNTIL` is the same except it also pops a value at run-time to decide whether to follow the branch or not. So while you can use BEGIN ... UNTIL for `do {...} while (!cond)` and `BEGIN ... AGAIN` for `for (;;) {...}` loops, you 22:53:24 can also just mix the words up if you happen to need something strange. (I'm not very good at Forth.) 22:55:32 [[Minim]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=86836&oldid=86835 * KakkoiiChris * (+15313) /* Fibonacci */ Added syntax highlighting 23:05:58 [[Minim]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=86837&oldid=86836 * KakkoiiChris * (+37) /* Characters */ Added double quote 23:06:25 [[Minim]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=86838&oldid=86837 * KakkoiiChris * (+0) /* Characters */ Fixed double quote name 23:11:11 [[Minim]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=86839&oldid=86838 * KakkoiiChris * (+152) /* Size (-s) */ Added formatting to examples 23:12:18 [[Minim]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=86840&oldid=86839 * KakkoiiChris * (-5) /* Comments */ Removed separators 23:12:38 [[Minim]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=86841&oldid=86840 * KakkoiiChris * (-5) /* Memory */ Removed separators 23:13:33 [[Minim]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=86842&oldid=86841 * KakkoiiChris * (-35) /* Memory */ Removed separators 23:13:56 [[Minim]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=86843&oldid=86842 * KakkoiiChris * (-10) /* Memory */ Removed separators 23:15:14 -!- Thelie has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 23:36:56 I don't like the conditions of dc much and I think that arithmetic if would be a better command to add into dc for implementing conditions 23:47:24 [[Talk:Bitwise Cyclic Tag]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=86844&oldid=79818 * CosmicMan08 * (+610) /* Python Interpreter */ new section