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< 1631408418 528457 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Is Tom7 interested in Free Hero Mesh now that bizarro is implemented? Someone told me that it is, but I don't really know. (Maybe, should also be implemented changing execution order of objects (like, I think, Tom7 did), but that might be difficult to know how to do it properly)
< 1631408583 624897 :keegan!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :what is bizarro
< 1631408634 540024 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :The bizarro world is another grid of objects which is normally invisible and intangible, but is still affected by most turn-based actions
< 1631408855 457225 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-104.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :dunno, you'll have to ask him. he has an email.
< 1631408867 760675 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-104.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :and a blog with comment forms.
< 1631408879 393351 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :OK. I looked and I found two different email addresses.
< 1631409032 894209 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :But, I will try.
< 1631412275 80695 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-104.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :in git, how do you list the refs of a remote repo?
< 1631412367 281240 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.242.171 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: does "git branch -v --remote" do what you want?
< 1631413051 170012 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-104.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: no, that only shows the local tags created that follow the remote tags. but (git ls-remote) does work.
< 1631413138 652175 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-104.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: the context is that I was trying to pull from a git repo that renamed its master branch to main, and didn't leave master even as a synonym, but I still have a local remotes/origin/main reference. so I wanted git to list remote refs to make sure that indeed, master doesn't exist on the remote.
< 1631413151 131339 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-104.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :*sigh*
< 1631413392 93960 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-104.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :the "master" nonsense started out sanely, with only the fancy web interface on github localizing "master" to "main", and using "main" as the branch name in repos if you create one with their fancy GUI tool. they don't need to touch actual branch names, because that would break compatibility, and the kind of people who don't understand that won't see the real branch names because they don't type (git 
< 1631413398 582457 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-104.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :lsref) or anything in the command-line, they just look at the github frontpage or something.
< 1631413416 29121 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-104.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :but no, at least one repository actually has the existing branch name deleted now. how did we get to this?
< 1631413494 374449 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-104.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :immibis: ok, you were right
< 1631413496 352071 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-104.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :um
< 1631413498 702217 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-104.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: you were right
< 1631413520 891248 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-104.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :and it sounds like it's from one of those puzzle/contest sites, not from coursework homework
< 1631413536 943018 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.242.171 PRIVMSG #esolangs :fwiw, I think it makes the most sense to name the primary branch after the project
< 1631413597 254647 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-104.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I don't care what you name the branch, I only care when it's renamed in an existing public repo with no synonym left
< 1631413801 978862 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-104.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(I also found another repo that did a non-fastforward change to their master
< 1631413956 766901 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :What I read is that git doesn't care about the branch name (except that it creates the "master" branch by default). But, you might want to use other branch names in any system, one reason being due to converting it, e.g. fossil<->git, since fossil uses name "trunk" by default, but again it doesn't care the branch name you can use other names.
< 1631414040 790745 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :(Fossil also has propagating tags too, so you can reference a range of commits using a name of any tag and you can have more than one. The branch name is also a tag, so that can also be used.)
< 1631414133 462590 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-104.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :what I don't know is how git knows which branch is the default? when I clone a repo, I don't explicitly tell it to check out the master branch, it decides that on its own.
< 1631414141 973467 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-104.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :is there something in the config that tells that?
< 1631414261 340130 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Does anything but Subversion use that model where you just have one big tree, and it's just a convention that you create top-level directories "trunk", "tags" and "branches" under the root, and make copies of all your code in them?
< 1631414287 357460 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-104.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :hmm... I think git checks out the HEAD of the remote
< 1631414340 258293 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-104.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie: no idea, ask someone who uses mercurial, they have like three or four different branch mechanisms so perhaps one of them is that
< 1631414351 482156 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-104.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs ::-/
< 1631414359 315868 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :git clone "-- creates and checks out an initial branch that is forked from the cloned repository’s currently active branch."
< 1631414410 750222 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :I guess a bare repository has an active branch as well? 
< 1631414449 876092 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-104.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie: apparently
< 1631414455 169523 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :And we use Mercurial at work, though weirdly.
< 1631414522 328199 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-104.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie: aren't you using git at work?
< 1631414574 68900 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :No. Well, except for a lot of open-source things of course.
< 1631414602 593109 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Chromium and Android and such.
< 1631414639 912278 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-104.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :well yeah, everyone has a lot of version control systems installed on their machine these days just to be able to check out third party repositories
< 1631414677 662080 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-104.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :that's why I have cvs, mercurial, darcs, fossil, bazaar installed
< 1631414698 944184 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-104.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(svn and git I have used for actual work or hobby)
< 1631414880 79315 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think we moved from Subversion to git for the "big" (not that big) shared ASR codebase at the university when I was there doing research.
< 1631414976 262764 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Hey, that fox is back.
< 1631415014 392265 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Well, okay, it might be an entirely different fox, I think there's many of them.
< 1631415097 388367 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Hadn't seen any for a while, but before that I frequently saw one of two at night out there crossing the (pretty quiet) side street or just walking on the sidewalk.
< 1631415157 542370 :earendel!uid498179@user/earendel JOIN #esolangs earendel :Amore Fuenfter Stock
< 1631415932 328723 :earendel!uid498179@user/earendel PRIVMSG #esolangs :new connection would also mean new secure socket layer handshake roundtrips overhead..no? this sucks hard on gprs connections, when scripts demand preflight check for modifications before it serves from cache. a page like irccloud easily make 30-40 https requests. it is a pain. not sure what keepAlive even does. probably additional overhead ping pongs. it in some ways stays open.  via stream end
< 1631416331 67255 :earendel!uid498179@user/earendel PRIVMSG #esolangs :a better protocol would put all requests in a single one. and fetch the whole package deflated, encypted.. vice versa.. and then evaluated "in time". and the user/webdeveloper would only notice when inspecting the network tab. good software never jumps in your way demanding your attention. 
< 1631416421 427011 :Corbin!~Corbin@c-73-67-140-116.hsd1.or.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :Sure, computers suck.
< 1631416444 884995 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-104.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :earendel: what is the context for this? and yes, we've been doing multiple HTTP requests per TCP connection long ago, regardless of SSL or not
< 1631416458 296478 :earendel!uid498179@user/earendel PRIVMSG #esolangs :yes, but not pleasently
< 1631416487 415431 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-104.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :well yes, HTTP 2 is trying to improve on that a bit I think
< 1631416507 919257 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-104.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :in that it allows you to abort a request without breaking the TCP stream
< 1631416521 445744 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-104.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :but the basics work well enough, and routinely used for downloading several small files
< 1631416526 456867 :earendel!uid498179@user/earendel PRIVMSG #esolangs :[ardon.. a few thoughts. context is my mobile connecion here :/
< 1631416567 934407 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :HTTP/3 uses UDP and has a 0-RTT encrypted handshake to known servers. Or at least QUIC did.
< 1631416594 943661 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-104.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I mean I have an old custom HTTP downloader program (I really should make a new one soon because it sucks), it has a delay mode where it downloads things slowly, and in that delay more I batch multiple requests together and longer delays between just so that I can take advantage of HTTP keepalive connections
< 1631416619 496179 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-104.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :and indeed I've done a debug output to verify that that works, it does not start a new TCP connection within the batches usually
< 1631416629 933080 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :(And TCP keepalive is pretty much just redundant 0-size frames + their acks.)
< 1631416647 765063 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-104.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie: this is a different keepalive
< 1631416650 732546 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-104.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :not TCP keepalive
< 1631416696 446826 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Oh, I got confused, because that was talked about earlier.
< 1631416707 125454 :earendel!uid498179@user/earendel PRIVMSG #esolangs :i am afraid all of this is crappy  om plicated and just doesn't work. or solve the problem it was invented for. obviously. so http is ok. one as well use bundlers. and just.. test a webapp in low bandwith.
< 1631416723 220750 :earendel!uid498179@user/earendel PRIVMSG #esolangs :right keepalive we were.
< 1631416739 657347 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yeah, the HTTP "keepalive" is almost a different meaning of the word.
< 1631416754 88095 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-104.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :it's just some stuff in the request and response headers where the server and client negotiate that you can reuse the TCP connection for another request, for which both parties have to make sure that if a request/response has a body, it uses either Content-Length or chunked encoding so the other party can tell where the body ends
< 1631416785 900598 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-104.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :but earendel might have asked about something else and I jumped to a conclusion
< 1631416786 475510 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.242.171 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it has crossed my mind recently that many web pages have heavy JavaScript for doing things like replacing small portions of the page so that there's no need to redownload the whole thing
< 1631416796 780532 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-104.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I don't know the context that earendel was trying to ask about
< 1631416799 178176 :earendel!uid498179@user/earendel PRIVMSG #esolangs :i was a bit off as i said. 1st sgt logbook entry. i understand we talked about tcp.
< 1631416799 947600 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.242.171 PRIVMSG #esolangs :when in fact, you could just do it all as plain HTML and it'd be faster due to the smaller download sizes
< 1631416841 2878 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.242.171 PRIVMSG #esolangs :there are complicated javascript-based web forums which have things like fake scrollbars because the real one wouldn't work properly, because the page isn't loaded all at once
< 1631416851 198520 :earendel!uid498179@user/earendel PRIVMSG #esolangs :yup.
< 1631416855 555583 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.242.171 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but, if it weren't for images (which you may be able to use placeholders for), you probably *could* just load the page all at once
< 1631416867 616007 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.242.171 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and it might well be lighter
< 1631416888 534747 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-104.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: and websites that put on a blur filter and an overlay popup that says you have to buy a payed subscription to view the article, on client side
< 1631416912 845093 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-104.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :or similarly a blur filter and an overlay popup saying that you have to claim to be at least 18 years old to view the content
< 1631416920 917452 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-104.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :usually also disabling the scrolling behind it
< 1631416932 644768 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.242.171 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: I've discovered that surprisingly many of those, the filter, overlay, etc. just don't load if you have JavaScript off
< 1631416954 17044 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-104.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: nah, on some sites nothing loads if you have Javascript off
< 1631416957 390098 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.242.171 PRIVMSG #esolangs :my "default" for browsing the web is JS-off (I have ways to turn it on if I need to), and it's actually much more usable that way, surprisingly
< 1631416967 701763 :earendel!uid498179@user/earendel PRIVMSG #esolangs :yes. images can, and were put into sprite bitmaps to keep conn low.
< 1631416980 341818 :earendel!uid498179@user/earendel PRIVMSG #esolangs :but images are not used much as back then.
< 1631416995 473437 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-104.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: but sure that happens too
< 1631417017 647564 :earendel!uid498179@user/earendel PRIVMSG #esolangs :usully u can do a lot with that minimal symbols that are fashinable and minimal (which i like too)
< 1631417050 654735 :earendel!uid498179@user/earendel PRIVMSG #esolangs :it helps indeed sometimes. 
< 1631417070 682442 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-104.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: there's at least one site where I enable javascript just to download the content, AND have a client-side CSS rule to remove the overlay and reenable scrolling
< 1631417081 685429 :earendel!uid498179@user/earendel PRIVMSG #esolangs :btw. gitter is lynx compatible. 
< 1631417139 974775 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-104.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: oh, and you need to accept at least some cookies for it to load too
< 1631417153 420859 :earendel!uid498179@user/earendel PRIVMSG #esolangs :i think most websites are mining coins when i use their interface in the background. and keeps machine learning my type style. and metriics more terrifying. :>
< 1631417405 231637 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-104.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :earendel: probably not very fast, because I'd hear the fan spinning
< 1631417471 704120 :earendel!uid498179@user/earendel PRIVMSG #esolangs :or contribute to SETI 
< 1631417497 89334 :earendel!uid498179@user/earendel PRIVMSG #esolangs :which i would cancel severly. 
< 1631417500 570243 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: I agree; it does usually work better.
< 1631417526 274873 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Sometimes, even though nothing is displayed if JS is disabled, you can disable CSS as well and then it will be displayed. However, sometimes this does not work.
< 1631417595 65801 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :(Sometimes by viewing the source you can still find a link to the data, though.)
< 1631417616 541635 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.242.171 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I discovered recently that Firefox has a built-in way to disable CSS on the page you're viewing
< 1631417633 113980 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.242.171 PRIVMSG #esolangs :alt-v, y, n
< 1631417644 468474 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.242.171 PRIVMSG #esolangs :this also lets you change between stylesheets, if the site defined more than one
< 1631417647 900373 :earendel!uid498179@user/earendel PRIVMSG #esolangs :about:config?
< 1631417657 773489 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.242.171 PRIVMSG #esolangs :no, in the menus for one page, rather than globally
< 1631417667 262336 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.242.171 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it's probably got a global CSS disable too, but I doubt it's a good idea to use it
< 1631417759 646640 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :I use that command a lot actually
< 1631417835 212798 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-104.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: yes, that's very old. the alternate stylesheets too, though mostly your readers won't guess they exist unless you include a built-in interface, whether client-side script to change which stylesheets are active
< 1631417865 204539 :earendel!uid498179@user/earendel PRIVMSG #esolangs :that matrix addon was quite powerful. usually its a bit too much work, but it could pay on 56KBit ~ 
< 1631417870 952776 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.242.171 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: still, it means that you could combine the JS stylesheet change, with the browser stylesheet change
< 1631417875 321222 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.242.171 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and have a page that works for non-JS viewers
< 1631417879 450518 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-104.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :also I think different browsers implement the alternate stylesheets a bit differently so you have to be careful, to tell if they're disabled when loading the page, some look at one attribute, some look at another
< 1631417911 664178 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-104.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :one attribute tells if it's a normal or alternate stylesheet; the other gives the name of the alternat stylesheet that the menu or scripts can reference to enable/disable it 
< 1631417939 720735 :earendel!uid498179@user/earendel PRIVMSG #esolangs :aaand. markdown would be totally sufficient for informational pages. articles. 
< 1631417984 256651 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.242.171 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I wouldn't like Markdown specifically for that because it has a few annoying corner cases
< 1631417988 937570 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.242.171 PRIVMSG #esolangs :like in the escaping rules
< 1631417997 314508 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Another alternative is the simpler gemini format
< 1631417998 32983 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.242.171 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but, the sort of page that can be generated from a markdown-ish input, yes
< 1631418004 565155 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.242.171 PRIVMSG #esolangs :or even POD
< 1631418046 224992 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :(Although gemini doesn't have inline formatting; there is no emphasis, strong, fixpitch (except for blocks), or inline links (links on lines by themself are possible).)
< 1631418056 897561 :earendel!uid498179@user/earendel PRIVMSG #esolangs :there can still be app vr world integrated within toaster and fridge. also rss has to somehow be spun together. then we can drop social media tech monopolies if we want. (we could keep the, if they behave nicely :)
< 1631418066 663188 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.242.171 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I actually really like POD's feature set, except for the non-semantic I<> and B<>
< 1631418091 877066 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-104.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: yes. but the menu only allows the reader to enable one alt stylesheet and disable all others, or enable no alt stylesheet. if you want multiple orthogonal axis by stylesheet, such as colors and font sizes, you need more than the menu. 
< 1631418108 834753 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-104.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I also don't like markdown. it's harder to use than HTML. 
< 1631418113 592572 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.242.171 PRIVMSG #esolangs :well, browsers have a built-in for variable font sizes nowadays too, but yes
< 1631418131 604316 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.242.171 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I was working on my own markdown-alike, but never finished, there were some things I couldn't decide how they should work
< 1631418135 256015 :earendel!uid498179@user/earendel PRIVMSG #esolangs :some p2p indexing distributed queryable node mastermind
< 1631418141 897131 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-104.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :you'd THINK it's hard to make a markup language that's worse than HTML with all its historical baggage, yet a lot of wiki or forum sites manage exactly that
< 1631418145 484281 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.242.171 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I /did/ decide that <details> was worthy of having a tag-equivalent, though
< 1631418158 823719 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.242.171 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and find an escaping syntax I was happy with
< 1631418159 3545 :earendel!uid498179@user/earendel PRIVMSG #esolangs :so. i hope u have noted this. :p
< 1631418160 479835 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-104.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :it'd be quite marvelous if I didn't want to post on some of those sites
< 1631418166 12340 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think plain HTML without CSS or scripts, and with some commands omitted and also some more things such as footnotes, can be good, perhaps.
< 1631418184 324338 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.242.171 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think there are three goals for a markdown-alike, in some amount of competition: a) be readable as plaintext, b) be easy to write, c) round-trip well with HTML-alikes
< 1631418193 583876 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.242.171 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I was primarily focusing on a) and c), but other combinations also make sense
< 1631418205 744109 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.242.171 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Markdown is moderately bad in all three areas
< 1631418225 666933 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-104.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: yeah, if I make a custom markup language, it will be HTML plus a lot of custom pseudo-tags that are rewritten on the server
< 1631418230 844307 :earendel!uid498179@user/earendel PRIVMSG #esolangs :hihi
< 1631418232 120768 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.242.171 PRIVMSG #esolangs :MediaWiki markup is good at c) and moderately good at b), less good at a)
< 1631418239 554278 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :I also had idea of markdown-alike too, with goals a) and b), and without the ability to embed HTML. Also some other differences, such as <...@...> for message IDs, and using ^H and ^W to represent strike-out
< 1631418323 979970 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :But regardless, I should think that a) is important
< 1631418433 538939 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :When writing a web page, ensure working without scripts if possible. Include a proper <noscript> block, with whatever is necessary, e.g. the text itself, links to the data, links to API documentation, alternative protocols (e.g. NNTP, IRC), etc
< 1631418661 670478 :chiselfuse!~chiselfus@user/chiselfuse JOIN #esolangs chiselfuse :chiselfuse
< 1631418804 113872 :earendel!uid498179@user/earendel PRIVMSG #esolangs :b-jonas. ah. thx. that's keep alive. well explained. i love you all. *whipcrack
< 1631419036 330027 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.242.171 PRIVMSG #esolangs :zzo38: I think it would be even better if the <noscript> block wasn't even required
< 1631419048 622931 :hendursaga!~weechat@user/hendursaga JOIN #esolangs hendursaga :weechat
< 1631419085 282451 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: Yes, although that is not applicable to all web pages. For ordinary documents, neither scripts nor <noscript> will be required, but some do something else.
< 1631419174 115075 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Another feature of Firefox I sometimes use is the jar: URI scheme. However, there seems to be a bug; if the file is replaced while Firefox is running, it gets confused and won't load it until Firefox is restarted (maybe it caches the index?)
< 1631419206 578586 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.242.171 PRIVMSG #esolangs :anyway, I'm a huge fan of <details> because there are many pages that use JavaScript (or more recently, CSS) to do the equivalent of a <details> and don't use it for anything else
< 1631419233 325570 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.242.171 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and yet, nobody uses it, they use the JS or CSS versions anyway :-(
< 1631419257 310992 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :What does the <details> command do? I think I saw it once but now I forgot.
< 1631419297 195074 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-104.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: I've seen at least one site that uses details, but most sites don't use it because it's new. the annoying part of details is that you can't easily force them open with user-style CSS
< 1631419339 846951 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-104.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: and that one site is (drumroll) … https://www.darthsanddroids.net/
< 1631419345 133319 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :You could include a script that checks if <details> is implemented and if not, provides it own, maybe. I also had idea of a "feature" attribute
< 1631419386 304157 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.242.171 PRIVMSG #esolangs :zzo38: it has a title and a body, the body is hidden by default until you click on the title
< 1631419411 488065 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.242.171 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so it's useful either for spoilers, or for things that are long and will only interest some people and you don't want them to take up space on the page by default
< 1631419440 889819 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-104.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think I might need to install greasemonkey or something just to open them on user side
< 1631419456 168113 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-104.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :is greasemonkey still a thing? or should I use something else when just CSS rules aren't enough?
< 1631419491 674316 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yes, that is better than what other thing are doing. Also it mean that depending on the implementation, the user might be able to configure the default state (visible or hidden)
< 1631419529 58553 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Is it possible for JavaScripts detecting which HTML commands are implemented and which ones aren't?
< 1631419554 843833 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.242.171 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: I think there are greasemonkey-alikes around but something happened to the original; but I don't know the details
< 1631419573 33541 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-104.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :hmm. maybe someone else here knows.
< 1631419583 132665 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-104.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :if not, I have other guesses of where to ask geeks.
< 1631419680 634156 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-104.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :it turns out, the internet is full of people who use browsers
< 1631419784 755335 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.242.171 PRIVMSG #esolangs :you'll probably find fewer browser-users on IRC than other parts of the Internet
< 1631419793 227773 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.242.171 PRIVMSG #esolangs :this is one of the very few parts that you don't have to use browsers to participate in
< 1631419824 838267 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-104.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: but more of those browser users are the kind who do custom stuff in their clients
< 1631419854 845169 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-104.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I mean there are several people here who made IRC bots
< 1631419905 862871 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.242.171 PRIVMSG #esolangs :there are even people here who made IRC bots in esolangs :-)
< 1631419920 21423 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.242.171 PRIVMSG #esolangs :although, I don't know how transferrable those skills are
< 1631419957 345086 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-104.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: hmm... like three of those bots have web interfaces, but that's server-side web stuff, not client-side
< 1631420114 12501 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.242.171 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and user scripts aren't even client-side web, really, they're something else
< 1631420115 691844 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.242.171 PRIVMSG #esolangs :user-side?
< 1631420125 267588 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-104.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :yeah
< 1631420127 591183 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.242.171 PRIVMSG #esolangs :client-side is normally used for the parts that the site writes but that run on the user's browser
< 1631420146 293941 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-104.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :correct
< 1631420303 358930 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-104.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I mean it's a bit of an orthogonal thing, you can have scripts or style or templates or other content originating from at least three places (the forum website, the third-party poster, the reading user), and any of the three could run on either the server or in your browser
< 1631420337 780162 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.242.171 PRIVMSG #esolangs :well, some combinations *shouldn't* be used (e.g. third-party scripts running on the user's browser)
< 1631420346 637300 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.242.171 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but I agree that every combinatino is technically possible
< 1631420357 888660 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-104.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: sure, it shouldn't just be arbitrary scripts,
< 1631420418 265718 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-104.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :but it can be other third-party content, including id or class names within a namespace, or sanitized css rules, or technically even sandboxed scripts, though that's quite hard
< 1631420474 353727 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-104.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :and some websites allow the third-party poster to upload images; some even go so far as allowing to include images by url from external sites, which is one of the main reasons why I'm now using the Umatrix plugin to disable those
< 1631420604 847690 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.242.171 PRIVMSG #esolangs :this is very common, sadly (the including images from external sites by URL)
< 1631420629 972947 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.242.171 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I'm generally of the opinion that webforums should ban images altogether, apart from images that they naturally host themself (which they may not have any of)
< 1631420649 479924 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :I am of the opinion that NNTP is better
< 1631420655 909896 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.242.171 PRIVMSG #esolangs :maybe if the forum has an attached wiki, it could allow embedding of an image from their wiki
< 1631420677 617669 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.242.171 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but, most of the uses of images that people want on web forums are copyright violations
< 1631420740 33817 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :(I also prefer that if you include a picture, should include a link that does not automatically display the picture, but you can still select to view if you want to)
< 1631420761 15061 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-104.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh, I actually have a question about this
< 1631420808 980222 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-104.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :suppose I want to make a mirror for a forum that allows embedding images. on the mirror, I turn embedded images to links. but I want to indicate which of those links were embedded images, eg. by putting some symbol before the link. what symbol should I use?
< 1631420831 949186 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-104.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :or what other markup to distinguish what was originally embedded image from plain links
< 1631420863 994701 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.242.171 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think that in order to avoid information loss, you should at least add a CSS class to the links that were converted from images (maybe also to the links that weren't convered from images)
< 1631420885 355120 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.242.171 PRIVMSG #esolangs :you could use the object placeholder character, I guess
< 1631420888 415253 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-104.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: yes, that's probably a good idea
< 1631420889 574565 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Perhaps use class="imagelink"; that way user CSS can override whatever style you decide to use. I don't know what style should be used, though.
< 1631420907 660028 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.242.171 PRIVMSG #esolangs :this one: ￼
< 1631420911 217679 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.242.171 PRIVMSG #esolangs :although it doesn't render at all for me
< 1631420913 991109 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.242.171 PRIVMSG #esolangs :`unidecode ￼
< 1631420918 649009 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :​[U+FFFC OBJECT REPLACEMENT CHARACTER]
< 1631420922 693587 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-104.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :but I still want some default formatting rule for this
< 1631420929 694379 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.242.171 PRIVMSG #esolangs :that's strange, it used to
< 1631420948 886598 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.242.171 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(it looked like "OBJ" in a dotted rectangle)
< 1631420957 774632 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.242.171 PRIVMSG #esolangs :maybe just draw a border around the link?
< 1631420965 959298 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.242.171 PRIVMSG #esolangs :to simulate the shape of an image
< 1631420972 377175 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yes, you should still have a default formatting rule so that it will work even if the user did not define such a rule on their own computer, too
< 1631420973 684222 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-104.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :a border... hmm, that might work
< 1631420996 637 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.242.171 PRIVMSG #esolangs :or even, draw a border, and then put that "missing image" symbol that Internet Explorer uses at the start (I think that's the one that people are most familiar with, not sure what the copyright status of it is)
< 1631421090 156123 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-104.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: I think the torn photo image could be misinterpreted as implying that the image link was broken which is why I'm not displaying the image. broken image links are pretty common on those boards, with the messages staying longer than the externally hosted image.
< 1631421141 654657 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.242.171 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: well, it is broken, isn't it? because you broke it
< 1631421146 973529 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.242.171 PRIVMSG #esolangs :although it'll still work when clicked on
< 1631421163 629886 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.242.171 PRIVMSG #esolangs :maybe this is just a quirk of me, I have my browser set to block images more than a certain number of kilobytes
< 1631421170 646260 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.242.171 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so I'm used to images looking broken but still working when clicked on
< 1631421184 781656 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-104.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I could try to use a Mona Lisa icon maybe
< 1631421220 762678 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-104.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :or a wooden picture frame hung on the wall with fishing strings and a single nail visible above icon
< 1631421246 924491 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.242.171 PRIVMSG #esolangs :now I'm bothered by the object replacement character not showing up
< 1631421256 631527 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.242.171 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it used to be quite frequent to see it in the middle of copy-pasted text
< 1631421263 60348 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.242.171 PRIVMSG #esolangs :what if it still is, and I simply can't see it?
< 1631422021 202193 :keegan!~beehive@li521-214.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esolangs :fnord
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< 1631432913 471004 :normsaa!~normsaa@101.175.64.73 PRIVMSG #esolangs :for ((i = -25680; i < +22000; i++)) do TZ=Z printf '%s%(%Y%m%d)T' Aaron $((i*86400)) | md5sum ; done > term.txt ;  grep -n 7f4986da7d7b52fa81f98278e6ec9dcb
< 1631432937 127288 :normsaa!~normsaa@101.175.64.73 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Is there a way to port this bash to an esoteruic language and make it more efficient and faster ?
< 1631432948 624809 :normsaa!~normsaa@101.175.64.73 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Can someone show me please?
< 1631432967 900485 :normsaa!~normsaa@101.175.64.73 PRIVMSG #esolangs :This has been going for over 40 minutes already
< 1631432971 376944 :normsaa!~normsaa@101.175.64.73 PRIVMSG #esolangs :No result
< 1631433603 901143 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :non normsaa answer where was that previous thing from?
< 1631433618 501610 :normsaa!~normsaa@101.175.64.73 PRIVMSG #esolangs :What?
< 1631433683 621640 :hanif!~hanif@gateway/tor-sasl/hanif JOIN #esolangs hanif :hanif
< 1631433753 498227 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :the 0101010
< 1631433791 114507 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :I mean where did your friend take it from
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< 1631434376 350706 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :\wa x^3 - 4x^2 + 6x - 24 = 0
< 1631434378 521841 :velik!~velik@nakilon.pro PRIVMSG #esolangs : Real solution: x = 4 | Complex solutions: x = -i sqrt(6), x = i sqrt(6) | Alternate forms: (x - 4) (x^2 + 6) = 0, (x - 4/3)^3 + 2/3 (x - 4/3) - 560/27 = 0
< 1631434391 703948 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :\wa seconds since 1 Jan 1970
< 1631434393 864763 :velik!~velik@nakilon.pro PRIVMSG #esolangs : Result: 1.631×10^9 seconds | Time span: 51 years 8 months 11 days, 2697 weeks 3 days, 18882 days, 51.7 years
< 1631434498 538717 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN #esolangs oerjan :Ørjan Johansen
< 1631434722 629165 :Everything!~Everythin@37.115.210.35 JOIN #esolangs * :Everything
< 1631434854 177783 :normsaa!~normsaa@101.175.64.73 PRIVMSG #esolangs :nakilon he made it
< 1631434861 190611 :normsaa!~normsaa@101.175.64.73 PRIVMSG #esolangs :himself
< 1631434877 674522 :normsaa!~normsaa@101.175.64.73 PRIVMSG #esolangs :this one is different
< 1631434894 908824 :normsaa!~normsaa@101.175.64.73 PRIVMSG #esolangs :mines still runnning its so slow
< 1631434902 580039 :normsaa!~normsaa@101.175.64.73 PRIVMSG #esolangs :my bash 
< 1631434944 265487 :normsaa!~normsaa@101.175.64.73 PRIVMSG #esolangs :velik how much can you cut it down to?
< 1631434947 483901 :normsaa!~normsaa@101.175.64.73 PRIVMSG #esolangs :the speed
< 1631434965 882786 :normsaa!~normsaa@101.175.64.73 PRIVMSG #esolangs :to find the passwrd that matches the hash
< 1631434973 471464 :normsaa!~normsaa@101.175.64.73 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and nakilon
< 1631435291 824852 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :I suppose int-e was right
< 1631435324 362913 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :. o O ( Please tell us more about this "efficiency" idea... it sounds like a fascinating concept. )
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< 1631435337 22660 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :it's a shame to pass off someone else's for your own
< 1631435973 463097 :normsaa!~normsaa@101.175.64.73 PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e well mines forking a new md5sum process each iteration
< 1631436011 546821 :normsaa!~normsaa@101.175.64.73 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so it'll be spending all it's time creating a new process and then tearing it down again
< 1631436073 306848 :normsaa!~normsaa@101.175.64.73 PRIVMSG #esolangs :So it is not efficient at all
< 1631436095 472427 :normsaa!~normsaa@101.175.64.73 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Mine has been running for over 1hour~
< 1631436103 979798 :normsaa!~normsaa@101.175.64.73 PRIVMSG #esolangs :on a standard laptop
< 1631436167 505898 :normsaa!~normsaa@101.175.64.73 PRIVMSG #esolangs :nakilon not sure what you're on about
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< 1631438810 247504 :immibis!~hexchat@62.156.144.218 PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie: seems like an outdated model. In Git your history is one big tree and so are your files. In Subversion I understand that your files are a tree but your history is not, and if you want tree history then you have to simulate it poorly with the file tree?
< 1631438832 256558 :immibis!~hexchat@62.156.144.218 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(git history is more accurately a DAG not a tree)
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< 1631446801 229604 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-104.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :normsaa: have you checked what those printfs actually print? because you're iterating one second increments rather than one day increments, which is why it's so slow. 
< 1631446835 307317 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-104.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :print some intermediate results, like those printfs, to see if they're right, before writing the whole program
< 1631446863 777496 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-104.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :because the statement you gave literally will only check two days, each 20000 times
< 1631446883 335382 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-104.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :but at least now you tried to implement something, so that's a plus
< 1631446942 473264 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: hmm? they multiply by 86400 in the middle.
< 1631446952 556452 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-104.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh, is there?
< 1631446957 603004 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-104.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :darn, I didn't notice that
< 1631446972 530527 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-104.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I wonder if they actually wrote that, or got that from a third channel
< 1631446983 23250 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :the code is fine. wouldn't even take hours on a linux system I think (didn't for me)
< 1631447007 139266 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :yeah, I don't know what to think about that
< 1631447016 341140 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :"my friend made it"
< 1631447041 678534 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-104.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :yes, so got it from a third channel. I'm only seeing their question in two channels.
< 1631447055 837757 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-104.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh hey
< 1631447087 451549 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-104.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :they are joined to #bash too, what a surprise
< 1631447117 489115 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I still find it funny to try to hook #esolangs into it by asking for a fast program
< 1631447138 552668 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-104.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: nah, they are asking for "an efficient solution" everywhere
< 1631447177 231716 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :probably /msg alis list *langu*
< 1631447199 285074 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-104.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I told them to forget the dates and to just append every decimal number from 19000000 to 23000000 to "Aaron" and it's still fast enough
< 1631447201 414294 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :or *progra*
< 1631447209 82072 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :-topic
< 1631447221 385780 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-104.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :but it's not clear if they even managed to write a single loop
< 1631447252 817399 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-104.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think they mentioned a range() for loop in python, that might be one original attempt, but I haven't seen an actual code line on how they'd use it
< 1631447257 475173 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :heh, there is a service to search for exact answer on SO
< 1631447275 138912 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :I imagine similar bot that joins relevant channels in IRC and asks
< 1631447287 118658 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :it could also be troll fodder from ##?python
< 1631447292 151029 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :just needs some AI to select the channels
< 1631447305 618310 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :it's the kind of helpful advice I'd give that totally evades the meat of the question :P
< 1631447358 835847 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :possibly along with advice to look at hashlib and datetime
< 1631447397 104407 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :IRC is a network of clusters of AI processes
< 1631447412 590394 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :this cluster has 86 processes, some of them are emitting STDOUT
< 1631447440 533327 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-104.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :nakilon: no, we would tell them to look at the hashlib module
< 1631447444 8197 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :some implement IPC
< 1631447487 787199 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-104.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh, they are in #python . darn it. I wasn't joined there for some reason, that's why I didn't see
< 1631447567 76965 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-104.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :no wait, they aren't
< 1631447570 909901 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-104.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I'm stupid
< 1631447574 732891 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-104.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :they didn't get past the nickserv barrier
< 1631447638 481204 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-104.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :well, the "no, it's not homework" thing is funny for a few days, and then they'll get bored
< 1631447641 484471 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-104.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :so no harm done
< 1631447664 552229 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-104.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :it's at least a refreshingly novel kind of user
< 1631447669 411807 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :I wonder if there really were any IPC systems based on IRC
< 1631447687 530229 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-104.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :nakilon: there are, for controlling botnets 
< 1631447700 669696 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-104.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :malware ones
< 1631447725 585120 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :I mean not some real chat channels with multiple bots built through years but some approach to solve problems by spawning a server in your network and proccesses around
< 1631447729 823592 :src!~src@user/src JOIN #esolangs src :realname
< 1631447730 814683 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :hm
< 1631447788 352195 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-104.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I wonder if we should explain them what we mean by "homework" in this case
< 1631447820 977297 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :I doubt he needs any explanation
> 1631447864 820508 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07List of ideas14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=88012&oldid=86767 5* 03Martsadas 5* (+59) 10
< 1631447883 472881 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :nakilon: IRC used to be popular for controlling botnets for a while
< 1631447896 741341 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :which comes pretty close to IPC
< 1631448460 896829 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :imagine esolang that can transfer values only between clients/machines
< 1631448482 927220 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :and can't transfer values between registers/memory_addresses within one client/machine
> 1631448511 70683 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:ight14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=88013&oldid=86756 5* 03Martsadas 5* (+164) 10!@#$%^&*()_+
< 1631448511 678201 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :so to run a program you have to have multiple machines
< 1631448585 900588 :normsaa!~normsaa@101.175.64.73 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Your conversations are hilarious to read
< 1631448599 246232 :normsaa!~normsaa@101.175.64.73 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Love a good whinge 
< 1631448609 209831 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :so it's like some form of life that stops working when there are no other creatures of your kind
< 1631448655 467817 :normsaa!~normsaa@101.175.64.73 PRIVMSG #esolangs :And your assumptions are totoally wrong too.
< 1631448669 628432 :normsaa!~normsaa@101.175.64.73 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Which makes it even more hilarious
< 1631448673 989054 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-104.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :google finds disappointingly few results for 7f4986da7d7b52fa81f98278e6ec9dcb  right now. only two. 
< 1631448708 20533 :normsaa!~normsaa@101.175.64.73 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yes which I already showed in the jsoftware channel
< 1631448717 456013 :normsaa!~normsaa@101.175.64.73 PRIVMSG #esolangs :And I pasted it here too
< 1631448723 29667 :normsaa!~normsaa@101.175.64.73 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I said someone else did that
< 1631448733 455176 :normsaa!~normsaa@101.175.64.73 PRIVMSG #esolangs :That gist
< 1631448754 491262 :normsaa!~normsaa@101.175.64.73 PRIVMSG #esolangs :So whats your point?
< 1631448792 382574 :normsaa!~normsaa@101.175.64.73 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Your OSINT isnt very good.
< 1631448835 13551 :normsaa!~normsaa@101.175.64.73 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I did the bash script though.
< 1631448840 543169 :normsaa!~normsaa@101.175.64.73 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Not the J script.
< 1631448856 850615 :normsaa!~normsaa@101.175.64.73 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I finished a working version of the bash script first though
< 1631448881 671532 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :it makes no sense
< 1631448960 595191 :normsaa!~normsaa@101.175.64.73 PRIVMSG #esolangs :What makes no sense?
< 1631448974 21458 :normsaa!~normsaa@101.175.64.73 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Please clarify when you say "makes no sense"
< 1631448986 746060 :normsaa!~normsaa@101.175.64.73 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Does the ground make no sense?
< 1631448997 260795 :normsaa!~normsaa@101.175.64.73 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Does the sky make no sense?
< 1631449010 557446 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :you make no sense
< 1631449016 800120 :normsaa!~normsaa@101.175.64.73 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Please clarify what you mean, dont give a general statement.
< 1631449024 138464 :normsaa!~normsaa@101.175.64.73 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Of nothing.
< 1631449051 324258 :normsaa!~normsaa@101.175.64.73 PRIVMSG #esolangs :In what way?
< 1631449059 933552 :normsaa!~normsaa@101.175.64.73 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Please clarify how I am make no sense.
< 1631449072 320648 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :I'm not here to clarify things for one with such attitude that asks others to solve his contests lieing on both sides
< 1631449072 875281 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :fungot: seems like you have some serious competition now
< 1631449073 53536 :fungot!fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::a PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: right now, i'm heading for home.
< 1631449073 812592 :normsaa!~normsaa@101.175.64.73 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Give me a reason
< 1631449103 36151 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :sounds like he gave up
< 1631449128 246229 :normsaa!~normsaa@101.175.64.73 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I asked for help.
< 1631449136 36508 :normsaa!~normsaa@101.175.64.73 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I did not ask for anyone to do it for me.
< 1631449151 164490 :normsaa!~normsaa@101.175.64.73 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Gave up?
< 1631449162 312941 :normsaa!~normsaa@101.175.64.73 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I wrote a bash script that solved it.,
< 1631449167 693234 :normsaa!~normsaa@101.175.64.73 PRIVMSG #esolangs :So I didnt give up.
< 1631449198 718154 :normsaa!~normsaa@101.175.64.73 PRIVMSG #esolangs :And I did not do it with anyones help from here.
< 1631449224 201874 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :re-mark-ab-le
< 1631449247 817953 :normsaa!~normsaa@101.175.64.73 PRIVMSG #esolangs :It is, I dn't have an ego though.
< 1631449264 837377 :normsaa!~normsaa@101.175.64.73 PRIVMSG #esolangs :As i am still learnng and accept my failings.
< 1631449285 856267 :normsaa!~normsaa@101.175.64.73 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Like most nerds who have egos.
> 1631449303 650001 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Subreal14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=88014&oldid=82311 5* 03RocketRace 5* (+73) 10add resource
< 1631449305 92213 :normsaa!~normsaa@101.175.64.73 PRIVMSG #esolangs :And are just condescending to people learning.
< 1631449319 152791 :normsaa!~normsaa@101.175.64.73 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I.e int-e
< 1631449348 74136 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :fungot do you have ego?
< 1631449348 420343 :fungot!fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::a PRIVMSG #esolangs :nakilon: i know. i use it for. fnord hand*' he means what he had for arch's config language, i didn't hear it
< 1631449348 577498 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Sure. Are you done?
< 1631449354 138766 :normsaa!~normsaa@101.175.64.73 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Humble yourself.
< 1631449358 583665 :normsaa!~normsaa@101.175.64.73 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Sure. Are you?
< 1631449380 589572 :normsaa!~normsaa@101.175.64.73 PRIVMSG #esolangs :As you had a whole conversation just about me earlier in here.
> 1631449380 755704 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Subreal14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=88015&oldid=88014 5* 03RocketRace 5* (-2) 10Formatting
< 1631449385 576446 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :fungot where is your home?
< 1631449386 35716 :fungot!fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::a PRIVMSG #esolangs :nakilon: there's my better version. :) :( getting really worried.
< 1631449408 375892 :normsaa!~normsaa@101.175.64.73 PRIVMSG #esolangs :So if you are done, then I am done.
> 1631449527 305590 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[0714]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=88016&oldid=80032 5* 03RocketRace 5* (+102) 10Add resource
> 1631449541 866918 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[0714]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=88017&oldid=88016 5* 03RocketRace 5* (+1) 10Formatting
< 1631449751 77660 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :I don't understand what is unstack
< 1631449757 799065 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-104.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :"<normsaa> I did not ask for anyone to do it for me." => yes, that's what I said. asking someone to do it for you would be plain boring, we have those kinds of people on support forums every day. asking “Can someone try it with J bot? / Curious to see how long it takes” is new, I haven't seen that one yet, so it gives some variety to the usually boring homework questions. that's why I said it's nice 
< 1631449764 83183 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-104.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :for a few days.
< 1631449798 982119 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-104.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :ideally I should write one of these silly obfuscated answers that happen to give the right answer for the wrong reason, but I'm kind of busy with real life so I'm not sure I'll do it
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> 1631450026 713723 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[0714]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=88018&oldid=88017 5* 03RocketRace 5* (+83) 10Describe extension
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< 1631450723 228660 :normsaa!~normsaa@101.175.64.73 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas youre on IRC all day I dont think youre busy with real life, lets be real.
< 1631450741 167166 :normsaa!~normsaa@101.175.64.73 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Quit lying to yourself.
< 1631450773 891429 :normsaa!~normsaa@101.175.64.73 PRIVMSG #esolangs :If you have the time to search and write paragraphs you have no real life. Just being honest.
< 1631450840 107051 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :and they tell me pithon does not have bad mental influence
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> 1631452806 138069 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Kolmogorov14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=88019&oldid=59479 5* 03Kaveh Yousefi 5* (+160) 10Added a hyperlink to my implementation of the Kolmogorov programming language on GitHub.
> 1631453632 191926 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07School14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=88020&oldid=88007 5* 03AceKiron 5* (+124) 10
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< 1631456132 377035 :riv!~river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://twitter.com/JDHamkins/status/1437021245602738184 hmm ordinal nim
< 1631456141 496925 :riv!~river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :even though the numbers are infinite the game ends in finite time
< 1631456190 419567 :riv!~river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :ω = 2^ω  apparently
> 1631456468 827633 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang:Sandbox14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=88021&oldid=88011 5* 034gboframram 5* (+165) 10/* Mycelium Hello, World! */
< 1631456774 272554 :Corbin!~Corbin@c-73-67-140-116.hsd1.or.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :normsaa: If you weren't on-topic in #ocaml, why would you be on-topic here?
< 1631456875 819285 :Corbin!~Corbin@c-73-67-140-116.hsd1.or.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :(Also, by what reasoning are esoteric languages more performant than mainstream languages? It's often the other way around, since only mainstream languages have companies paying for specialized compiler engineers.)
< 1631457058 911312 :riv!~river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :k
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> 1631463356 398162 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07OOLANG14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=88022&oldid=66457 5* 03Kaveh Yousefi 5* (+24) 10Added the deadlink tag to obsolete hyperlinks and amended an orthographic error.
> 1631464411 257257 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Kolmogorov14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=88023&oldid=88019 5* 03Kaveh Yousefi 5* (+1080) 10Amended orthography, corrected examples, especially involving the comments' quotes, and improved the code formatting.
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< 1631466894 641036 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Is $ the default mutt key binding for 'sync-mailbox' because that (potentially) involves network activity, and network activity may cost money? 
< 1631467266 966893 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :it could also be inspired by S = sync
< 1631467274 216692 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :And... I don't know
< 1631467421 427314 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Plausible. Though it would seem that "S" is unused. (Small "s" is used for save-message.)
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> 1631474822 121825 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Kolmogorov14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=88024&oldid=88023 5* 03Kaveh Yousefi 5* (+570) 10Added the cat program as a further example.
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> 1631483270 908677 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07!@$%^&*()+14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=88031&oldid=88030 5* 03Fmbalbuena 5* (+14) 10Undo revision 88030 by [[Special:Contributions/Fmbalbuena|Fmbalbuena]] ([[User talk:Fmbalbuena|talk]])
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> 1631485851 523928 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Parse this sic14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=88032&oldid=86391 5* 03Digital Hunter 5* (+399) 10/* Look-and-say sequence */ added a generalised version that takes an input
< 1631486171 213089 :shachaf!~shachaf@user/shachaf PRIVMSG #esolangs :What sort of esolang is this? https://cs.nyu.edu/pipermail/fom/2021-September/022861.html
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< 1631486576 605783 :Corbin!~Corbin@c-73-67-140-116.hsd1.or.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :It's a string-rewriting system akin to Thue, I think.
< 1631486611 583923 :Corbin!~Corbin@c-73-67-140-116.hsd1.or.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :Imagine that Thue's program states are restricted to bitstrings. Then a Thue program is Friedman's R and GEN(R) is the set of possible intermediate program states.
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< 1631488191 877523 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :I do like sudo's "This incident has been reported to the authorities" message.
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