00:06:22 [[Cammy]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=88084&oldid=88083 * Corbin * (+355) /* Functors */ Remove formerly-primitive functors and explain how to define custom functors. 00:12:16 -!- arseniiv_ has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 00:33:17 -!- oerjan has quit (Quit: Nite). 01:10:39 -!- joast has quit (Quit: Leaving.). 01:16:58 -!- joast has joined. 01:35:11 -!- delta23_ has joined. 01:36:01 -!- delta23 has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 01:36:09 -!- delta23_ has changed nick to delta23. 01:49:56 -!- delta23 has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 01:50:20 -!- delta23 has joined. 02:00:00 -!- delta23 has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 02:00:43 -!- delta23 has joined. 02:17:01 What I can think of for when you want to insert one item in a proper sorted position in a double linked list can be: you can start on one end, or you can start on both ends, or you can start on the middle. 02:18:50 Is there a better way? 02:43:31 -!- op_4 has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 02:47:32 Sometimes people do that thing where they keep a pointer to the single most recently added (or used) node, so that when they need to find an item (or a place) in the list, they can pick as start points either one of the ends or that most recently added item, depending on which is "closest" (assuming that can be measured). The thinking is, often things that get added close to each other are 02:47:34 related. 02:49:54 OK, that make sense 03:04:24 -!- delta23 has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds). 03:10:35 -!- Bowserinator has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 03:11:40 -!- Bowserinator has joined. 03:12:26 By the way, what do you do about the fact that "naively" inserting into a B-tree in sorted order produces a maximal-space (every node half-full) tree? 03:12:51 I've seen people address it with a special case behavior for inserting at the very last element of the tree. 03:13:26 But I'd like something more general that can also address inserting in reversed order, and probably fancier patterns. 03:22:00 -!- hendursaga has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 03:22:05 -!- hendursa1 has joined. 03:32:37 -!- delta23 has joined. 03:32:39 The latest issue of 2600 mentions post-quantum cryptography, and they mention ambiguous keys. It says: "Block cipher systems which have ambiguous keys generally have the property that the key size is larger than the block size." 03:33:37 Well, I think, if you use a hash function in CFB, OFB, or CTR mode, then the key can be as longer as you want to be, or maybe even combining these modes 03:35:48 They also mention putting random data in a part of the block before encryption. I also had a similar idea but my idea was to use irregular and misaligned random padding, including codes (part of the text before being encrypted) to detect this. 03:40:28 Depending on what requirements, there are other possibilities such as to somehow shuffle the message before encrypting it (but after applying the random padding and codes), in a way which can be reversed 03:43:54 -!- sebbu has quit (Quit: Quitte). 04:37:52 -!- ecs has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 04:38:09 [[Brainfuck]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=88085&oldid=87637 * Pipythonmc * (+43) /* Self-interpreters */ Fix dead link (changed to wayback machine snapshot) 04:51:15 -!- ecs has joined. 04:55:47 -!- sebbu has joined. 05:16:22 [[Brainfuck]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=88086&oldid=88085 * Pipythonmc * (+42) /* External resources */ Fix broken link (change to wayback archived page) 05:45:34 -!- imode has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 06:13:22 -!- tromp has joined. 06:23:39 -!- tromp has quit (Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…). 06:48:52 -!- tromp has joined. 07:05:11 -!- Sgeo has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 07:05:25 -!- Sgeo has joined. 07:14:27 -!- delta23 has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 07:14:46 -!- delta23 has joined. 07:29:18 -!- Sgeo has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 07:52:28 -!- Trieste has joined. 08:05:55 -!- hendursaga has joined. 08:09:18 -!- hendursa1 has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 08:19:42 -!- imode has joined. 08:55:05 -!- Koen has joined. 09:09:11 -!- riv has quit (Quit: Leaving). 09:10:36 -!- riv has joined. 09:18:00 oh great, they're back under a slightly different name 09:18:19 the date md5 checksum guy that is 09:20:25 omg 09:20:29 md5 checksum... oh the programming puzzle stuff 09:33:49 int-e: yes. the spec as quoted doesn't explicitly state md5, but it gives a full checksum and there's a matching solution if you use md5 so I assume they just left out that part 09:36:02 -!- imode has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 09:36:22 I have a weird idea. you know these modern language models that the AI research folks are experimenting with, like GPT-2 or the ones that generate faces or dog pictures? you could use those to make the modern equivalent of a Chef/Piet style language. take a model and make sure it can be decoded then encoded losslessly by throwing in an arithmetic coder if necessary, write your program in a golfing 09:36:28 language and *decode* it with the model to get your actual source code, bang you have an esolang that represents programs as English text or machine-generated dog pictures. 09:37:37 for #esolangs purposes, we probably have to use one of fungоt's (or words's) models, since they've been stable for years and widely used so can be considered canonical. then we'd get a programming language where the source code looks like a European parliament speech or an IRC conversation about Scheme 09:38:52 b_jonas: eh I'm just glad they (apparently) decided that #esolangs isn't for them 09:40:37 int-e: possible, but I wouldn't be so hasty in that conclusion. they may just have learned not to ask the same question on many channels at the same time, so that they can continue saying the "my solution in is" thing with higher probability 09:40:54 the language model thing... feels squishy (eww). 09:41:23 true, social engineering is hard 09:42:18 if you don't want anything modern, I could use my old steganography thing https://www.perlmonks.com/?node_id=877696 , to have an esolang where your source code can look like your favourite text, and only the whitespace in the source code matters for the actual program meaning 09:45:41 oh another thought... aren't you just reinventing copilot ;-) 09:45:57 you could even train a model on corporate style Java programs, or programs on github, or code on StackOverflow, and use that model to make a language whose source code looks like Java. of course there are easier and more practical ways to make a language that looks like Java. 09:46:02 int-e: yeah, possible\ 09:46:51 My issue is, I prefer things to have a clear specification. Putting a NN in the pipeline utterly destroys that property. 09:47:53 int-e: it doesn't need to be a NN. fungot's models don't use an NN. 09:47:53 b_jonas: ( just as the important thing here is that i'm trying to 09:48:10 It's bad enough that "real" programming language specifications are ludicrously big. 09:48:34 int-e: but in that case, I point again to https://www.perlmonks.com/?node_id=877696 , which does have a simple specification, though it's not quite obvious what it is because I deliberately wrote the interpreter is an obfuscated style 09:48:55 fungot: Wait a sec, what exactly are you trying to use a neural net for? 09:48:56 fizzie: some find them interesting and educational, and i've clearly gone loopy. 09:49:10 I can't argue with that. 09:49:14 (also it's inefficient for long source code) 09:49:28 (Actually, I have C and C++ in mind in particular... Java too... ECMAscript is noticably shorter but growing. How are the newcomers like Rust doing on that front?) 09:49:47 int-e: Rust is no exception, it's growing too 09:50:35 that was an excellent reply, fungot 09:50:36 int-e: yet k is called with any argument, which is an sxml-based thumbnail gallery script that does that 09:50:37 technically there's also my own model that makes fake (and sometimes accidentally real) town names in Hungary, but I can't really use that because I wrote it for work 09:51:14 https://golang.org/ref/spec is pretty reasonable lengthwise, I've always thought. 09:51:25 wtf is sxml *googles* oh must be from the scheme channel? 09:53:15 (I've certainly seen SXML before, it just never seemed relevant.) 10:16:45 * Taneb hello 10:50:33 -!- Koen has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 10:52:02 -!- Koen has joined. 10:57:06 -!- wib_jonas has joined. 10:59:25 what I said is actually a straightforward application of Shannon's theorem, which tells us that if you want to encode codegolf problems to food recipes, you don't need to have DMM's double domain specific insights on how the concepts of programming map to the concept of cooking (eg. variables to mixing bowls), you can get the same asymptotic 10:59:25 density if you make an encoder from codegolf problems to coinflip sequences, and separately make a decoder from coinflip sequences to food recipes 11:00:02 that doesn't count as modern as esolangs go (though may count as modern as mathematics goes) 11:07:01 by the way, as for modern mathematics, have you noticed how on the list of Hilbert's problems from 1900, there's the one about diophantic equations which asks about computability, even though computability or algorithms weren't defined until Church–Turing invented them in 1930–1936? 11:08:17 -!- leah2 has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds). 11:08:31 that's interesting 11:08:58 of course the notion of a method to solve things that didn't require extra insights would have been known 11:12:04 that kind of thing is hardly unique of course, Gauss–Bolyai–Lobačevskij in the 1830s tried to figure out if Euclid's parallel postulate is independent from the rest of the axioms in the plane, and Beltrami–Klein proved that it is independent around 1860, but people didn't actually know how to work with mathematical proofs from a precise 11:12:04 axiom system until Frege figured it out around 1980; 11:12:14 not to mention all the things that eventually Taneb invented 11:12:19 `? tanebventions/math 11:12:21 tanebventions/math? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ 11:12:24 `? tanebventions 11:12:26 Tanebventions include necessity, Go, submarine jousting, Fueue, the universe, metar, sand, dragons, persistence, the BBC, _46bit, progress, sanity, the hug, Italian, the grace period, the limerick, ruin, and this sentence. See also tanebventions: maths or tanebventions: foods. He never invents anything involving sex. 11:12:36 `? tanebventions: maths 11:12:37 Mathematical tanebventions include D-modules, Chu spaces, the torus, Stephen Wolfram, Klein bottles, string diagrams, linear logic, the reals, Lambek's lemma, Curry's paradox, Stone spaces, algebraic geometry, locales, and histograms. 11:14:33 mathematicians tried to use real numbers even before Taneb invented them 11:15:30 `? kayak polo 11:15:32 kayak polo? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ 11:15:47 -!- tech_exorcist has joined. 11:27:57 -!- leah2 has joined. 11:50:23 -!- arseniiv_ has joined. 11:59:23 plausible idea 12:05:28 02:14:37 olist//#!/bin/bash \ set -e; n=$*; [[ $n = +([0-9]) ]] 12:05:35 thread error 12:05:53 this is exactly why I did [wiki ...] and not [[...]] 12:05:57 _-- 12:07:20 00:34:13 The requested page title contains invalid characters: "[". 12:07:41 I'll catch it later 12:12:02 Evil, GG, evil. How am I supposed to focus on that statue's face... 12:14:53 oh btw, guys 12:15:20 I'm imagining the website for RASEL golf and kind of solved most of the security but 12:17:04 I don't understand how to prevent that hacker hacks into my webserver and can now send his own solutions to the interpreter server pretending he's another user 12:18:29 2FA via IRC bot would be too tedious for user experience 12:18:54 um 12:19:08 does that bot just react to [[double brackets]] ? 12:19:09 and delayed, since velik isn't "listening" to requests anyway 12:19:10 https://esolangs.org/wiki/Patternfuck 12:19:18 yes it does. that's probably not a very good idea. 12:19:22 -!- tromp has quit (Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…). 12:19:29 lol it was your idea 12:19:30 how about [[double opening] bracket with] separate single closing? 12:19:34 my idea? now ay 12:19:45 then another guy said the same so I made it finally 12:20:32 idk how to search in channel logs but it must be somewhere in the first day when the [wiki ...] was implemented 12:20:59 I just said [[Brainfuck]] is how we usually denote wiki links. 12:21:00 https://esolangs.org/wiki/Brainfuck 12:21:10 it's kind of lucky that [[...]] and [...] do the same thing in Brainfuck so the former doesn't usually come up in that context. 12:21:10 And then someone else did re-suggest it later on. 12:21:41 I think I was imagining it to work with [[Foo]] only for exact title matches though, and be silent when not. 12:21:42 maybe 12:21:42 https://esolangs.org/wiki/Foo 12:21:56 If you want to implement it that way, be my guest. :) And then [wiki ...] can be a general search. 12:22:28 Of course we _would_ have a page titled "Foo". 12:23:38 nakilon: I said that even the bot reacting to [wiki: inside the line is a bad idea], and I suggest that the bot should only react if there's an invocation sequence right at the *start* of the message 12:23:59 The two ends of the spectrum, I guess. 12:24:11 nakilon: this lets us avoid botloops by bots putting something at the start of the line, like a space or a control-O or whatever that was, so that it doesn't match any bot invocation sequence 12:24:38 and yes, fungоt goes against this rule, and it gets a pass, life isn't fair 12:25:14 this particular reply replies only with URLs so it's harder to make a bot loop unless you put fungot in it and teach fungot to do [[]] 12:25:14 nakilon: i was busy dying with a fever! :) 12:25:20 thread error 12:25:44 woah, broke the empty query somehow 12:25:56 hmm [[ꙮ]] 12:25:57 https://esolangs.org/wiki/1CP%3D1ICL 12:27:18 Oh I see, it's because that article actually contains the letter ꙮ. 12:27:26 Heh, Chrome's find-on-page search highlights both ꙮ and ꙩ when I search for ꙮ. 12:27:46 `unidecode ꙮꙩ 12:27:47 ​[U+A66E CYRILLIC LETTER MULTIOCULAR O] [U+A669 CYRILLIC SMALL LETTER MONOCULAR O] 12:28:02 "Close enough." 12:28:10 case insensitivity 12:28:11 nakilon: yes, it's not easy to get a botloop with just the bots we have now, but surely you've seen those very annoying title-printer bots that try to retrieve any http url they see even in the middle of the line, and can imagine how that together with your bot can cause a loop 12:28:29 right, if you squint, closing 6 of your 7 eyes 12:29:07 and yes, I know that some of the wikimedia channels have a bot that reacts to [[double square brackets]] and outputs a URL to the article, and those are a bad idea too 12:29:08 https://esolangs.org/wiki/Roco 12:29:28 lol 12:30:01 I have no problem with a command to search on the wiki, but use an invocation prefix for that 12:30:12 [[pandemonium]] 12:30:13 similarly we have a command to retrieve a URL and get its title but it uses a prefix 12:30:22 perlbot get https://esolangs.org/wiki/Roco 12:30:25 wib_jonas: Roco - Esolang : RocoFrom EsolangJump to navigation Jump to searchRoco is programming language using a form of coroutines, designed by Lode Vandevenne in 2007. The coroutines are very basic, they have no input or output parameters, and their instruction pointer is never copied or reset. If a coroutine doesn't call ("ca" or "ac") or yield ("yi") an... [Output truncated. http://perl.bot/p/aujzqv ] 12:30:27 but there is already a search via \wiki 12:30:49 then I'll leave the search only for \wiki 12:30:51 Pfft, no pandemonium? I'm disappointed. 12:30:55 nakilon: thank you 12:30:57 and that would do exact match 12:31:02 \wiki double square brackets 12:31:03 nothing was found 12:31:12 _Oo 12:31:28 arguably the semantics of those two are the wrong way around 12:31:40 \wiki is a deliberate command so it can search wide 12:31:58 [[...]] is a casual quote so it should search narrowly 12:32:02 \wiki roco 12:32:03 Roco is programming language using a form of coroutines, designed by Lode Vandevenne in 2007. The coroutines are very basic, they have no input or output parameters, and their instruction pointer is never copied or reset. If a coroutine doesn't call ("ca" or "ac") or yield ("yi") another coroutine, it simply loops forever: if the instruction pointer reaches the end of a coroutine, it goes back to its beginning an... https://esolangs.org/wiki/Roco 12:32:24 lol perlbot's "jump to navigation" 12:32:37 -!- riv has quit (Quit: Leaving). 12:34:55 -!- riv has joined. 12:37:02 Oh, a busy beaver game... https://www.gog.com/game/timberborn (scnr). 12:42:49 looks like Towns but with water physics 12:46:14 https://esolangs.org/wiki/Brainfuck/w/index.php%3Ftitle%3DTalk:Brainfuck/index.php what the heck 12:46:35 "a language invented in a newly-awaken stupor" ok fair 12:50:09 nakilon: yeah it looks like an ordinary game... I'm not buying it. Just couldn't resist the BB connection. 13:04:48 fact macro wikisearch is {eval ($r,)=split" ",{quote d {get {eval use URI;use URI::QueryParam;$o=URI->new("https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ASearch&fulltext=1"); $o->query_param("search",{arg d});"$o"} //*[@class='mw-search-exists'or@class='mw-search-result-heading' ]//a/@href}};$r=~m(^/)?"https://esolangs.org$r":"null:"} 13:05:04 wikisearch beaver 13:05:08 \wiki beaver 13:05:10 The goal: given a program length, find the brainfuck program of that length that calls the . command the greatest (finite) number of times. https://esolangs.org/wiki/BF_busy_beaver 13:05:14 perlbot wikisearch beaver 13:05:14 wib_jonas: No factoid found. Did you mean one of these: [who's jeremy] 13:05:20 perlbot fact macro wikisearch is {eval ($r,)=split" ",{quote d {get {eval use URI;use URI::QueryParam;$o=URI->new("https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ASearch&fulltext=1"); $o->query_param("search",{arg d});"$o"} //*[@class='mw-search-exists'or@class='mw-search-result-heading' ]//a/@href}};$r=~m(^/)?"https://esolangs.org$r":"null:"} 13:05:20 wib_jonas: Stored wikisearch is {eval ($r,)=split" ",{quote d {get {eval use URI;use URI::QueryParam;$o=URI->new("https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ASearch&fulltext=1"); $o->query_param("search",{arg d});"$o"} //*[@class='mw-search-exists'or@class='mw-search-result-heading' ]//a/@href}};$r=~m(^/)?"https://esolangs.org$r":"null:"} 13:05:23 perlbot wikisearch beaver 13:05:27 wib_jonas: https://esolangs.org/wiki/BF_busy_beaver 13:05:46 there. 13:06:08 programmable bots can do everything custom bots can, it's just much harder to implement the commands 13:06:46 -!- Koen has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 13:08:35 https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2021/sep/16/home-computing-pioneer-sir-clive-sinclair-dies-aged-81 13:09:49 -!- tromp has joined. 13:10:24 can you add a not yet installed third-party library to perlbot with those commands? 13:10:36 since velik uses gem Infoboxer 13:10:56 to parse wiki properly 13:11:10 nakilon: you could if it's written in perl so you can run it in the eval sandbox 13:12:45 perlbot eval system(q[ruby -e'14.times{|k|p k}']) # doesn't even really need to be written in perl, you just need a suitable perl wrapper 13:12:47 wib_jonas: 31 13:13:49 why does that print 31? 13:14:19 ah, probably there's no ruby installed 13:14:31 -!- tech_exorcist has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 13:15:21 eval system(q[awk 'BEGIN{for(k=0;k<14;k++){printf("%s ",k)}}'])||"" 13:15:29 perlbot eval system(q[awk 'BEGIN{for(k=0;k<14;k++){printf("%s ",k)}}'])||"" 13:15:31 wib_jonas: 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 13:15:37 that then 13:15:45 can be written in awk or anything you can run in its sandbox 13:16:27 the whole library or at least a relevant piece of it would take day(s) to extract and a hundred of messages to eval 13:17:04 hundred even in case you've already golfed it all 13:17:21 nakilon: no, you don't have to send it through IRC 13:17:40 nakilon: you can download it from an external url, sort of like when we download things to hackeso, though the syntax for this is not obvious at all 13:17:49 or you can upload it through perlbot's web interface 13:18:36 so it's just more complicated way of building 13:27:37 or you could try to ask simcop to help, just like you can ask fizzie to install stuff to HackEso since that's sometimes easier than installing inside the sandbox, especially if there's a package in the debian version that HackEso's sandbox uses 13:33:25 Oh, I should probably upgrade that from buster to bullseye at some point. 13:35:56 sure, and I should upgrade my home computer. it will happen within months. 13:44:31 -!- Sgeo has joined. 14:08:46 -!- tech_exorcist has joined. 14:24:36 -!- Koen has joined. 14:27:30 I would upgrade Windows only for WSL if I was coding on it 14:29:16 and I'll probably update macOS when this macbook explode sinceit's already getting spherical 14:31:18 -!- Koen has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 14:32:45 nakilon: spherical as in https://xkcd.com/1422/ 14:34:56 yeah smth like that 14:35:10 The test phone on my desk at the office (that had spent the last 1+ years waiting on the "allow debugging from this host?" prompt) had gone slightly spherical by the time I got back. 14:35:36 my macbook appeared to be from 2017 when there were some bad batteries and there is an apple program of replacement for free 14:35:51 but for some reason my serial number says that my macbook isn't affected 14:36:21 My PPC iBook had its battery recalled and replaced. Chemistry seems to be hard. 14:36:38 so I have to spent time to figure it out with local apple centers and if they say that unfortunately it's not free I need to pay for it and I don't have money right now so it's like a ticking bomb lol 14:38:53 fizzie: nah, all the products that they make in east Asia are like that, hard to make, it's just that a few things like battery, mains power contact safety, things that can theoretically strangle a baby, are considered important enough that the product gets recalled when they mess it up. 14:40:21 All products are like that, period. Modern batteries are extremely intricate inside and it's easy for the chemical reaction to interact badly with the battery housing's geometry. 14:40:23 it used to be christmas lights that shock you, but that went out of fashion since we have leds and solid state power supplies, so now it's just mains power extension cord and sockets where either the grounding is broken or the live wire can get touched 14:40:45 that's in Europe I mean; in US it's the default that mains power connectors make the live wire easy to touch 14:41:10 Look at tetraethyl lead (TEL) for a fun example. Blaming just one jurisdiction for shoddy products both ignores their lax trading partners and stokes us-vs-them rhetoric. 14:41:54 I've also got one of those portable battery packs, and for the life of me I can't remember if it was *designed* to be slightly thicker from the middle, or if it's doing the battery thing. Because it's really not very pronounced, so it could be it was never entirely flat. 14:42:51 It'd be easier if one of the seams would split, since that sounds unlikely to be by design. 14:46:00 I think I also mentioned that when you board a plane, besides the instructions about your seat belt and the emergency exit, they now tell you not to charge your batteries during takeoff and to call the crew immediately if your batteries are on fire, instead of the older warnings that you should turn off your electronic devices during takeoff and 14:46:01 landing, and before that, that all of the airplane is non-smoking. 14:47:15 maybe I had to buy mac mini 14:47:26 but would also need the keyboard and trackpad 14:47:46 and I don't want to bother with replacing those little batteries 15:03:33 -!- dyeplexer has joined. 15:05:04 -!- p_____ has joined. 15:05:12 -!- p_____ has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 15:08:13 perlbot: jail 15:08:13 simcop2387: No factoid found. Did you mean one of these: [jql] [joel] [fail] [japh] [java] [.il] [.jm] [.jo] [.jp] [js] 15:08:26 hmm thought i had a factoid 15:08:34 perlbot: seach perlbot-jail 15:09:04 perlbot: search perlbot-jail 15:09:05 simcop2387: No matches. 15:09:12 perlbot: search perlbuut-jail 15:09:12 simcop2387: No matches. 15:10:11 nakilon: https://github.com/perlbot/perlbot-jail make a pr for this and it'll get put into the sandbox for playing 15:14:42 simcop: it's all hypothetical of course, because nakilon already has a bot running, so it's easier for them to add a command to that bot than to try to figure out how perlbot works 15:15:55 of course, just wanted to point out how the sandbox works to add data or small libraries 15:20:45 sure. and nakilon did ask after all. 15:21:25 this is one of the commands that we can't currently implement in HackEso, because there's no hole on the sandbox that lets us send queries to the wiki website 15:21:38 (nor a local wiki dump or anything like that) 15:22:11 not that it would be needed for HackEso 15:34:07 -!- dutch has quit (Quit: WeeChat 3.0.1). 15:36:58 -!- dutch has joined. 16:04:45 -!- tromp has quit (Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. 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