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02:56:50 <oerjan> whee my Dbfi derivative now can run . and ,
02:57:04 <oerjan> now i just need it to manage to halt next...
02:57:34 <oerjan> (<>[] still unimplemented/unadapted)
03:01:59 <oerjan> hm actually the order it runs , and . and my debug printing makes no sense
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03:20:21 <esolangs> [[Astridec]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=88531 * PixelatedStarfish * (+932) Created page with "'''Astridec''' is a programming language created by [[User:PixelatedStarfish]]. It is designed for [[Starstuff]] such that any sequence of characters can be converted to runna..."
03:20:34 <esolangs> [[User:PixelatedStarfish]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=88532&oldid=88521 * PixelatedStarfish * (+3) /* Twink */
03:23:12 <esolangs> [[Twink]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=88533&oldid=88527 * PixelatedStarfish * (-806)
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03:26:15 <Corbin> I wonder if PixelatedStarfish has, like, a roadmap of some sort. It seems like they're producing many IRs but I'm not sure what their overall compilation strategy is supposed to be.
03:26:34 <esolangs> [[Astridec]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=88538&oldid=88531 * PixelatedStarfish * (+28) /* Commands */
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03:32:58 <oerjan> yay it halts and seems to run all +-., commands correctly
03:33:58 <oerjan> (and all the bugs so far were stupid mistakes)
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04:08:09 <j-bot> oerjan: seems to work
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07:23:06 <nakilon> was billed for $6 for a server on GCP
07:23:30 <nakilon> switched the machine type to get into the Free Tier and pay $0
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19:41:09 <nakilon> weird that there is no name for https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Travelling_salesman_problem without a return to origin
19:43:20 <nakilon> imagine that you have a bunch of photos and you want to order them in such way that playing the sequence would be rather smooth than chaotic
19:43:41 <nakilon> and there is no need to have start match the end
19:44:17 <nakilon> imagine if these are photos of a landscape during the day and they got shuffled
19:47:29 <riv> eulerian vs hamiltonian cycle/path?
19:47:49 <fizzie> I think that distinction is more the cycle vs. path part.
19:48:45 <fizzie> "The Shortest Hamiltonian Path Problem (SHPP) is similar to the Traveling Salesperson Problem (TSP). You have to visit all the cities, starting from a given one and you do not need to return to your starting point."
19:49:06 <fizzie> Although you could argue that's not really a name, more a description.
19:53:02 <int-e> . o O ( Retiring Salesperson Problem )
19:53:53 <Corbin> I've heard several names for it, based on the real-world problems involving garbage trucks, busses, or other vehicles with home garages.
19:53:54 <fizzie> Although that quoted bit conflates two changes: the bit that it's a path rather than cycle, and the bit that the starting point is fixed. I imagine there's no reason why you couldn't also just ask for the shortest Hamiltonian path from any starting point.
19:53:57 <int-e> Though I guess that suggests a fixed starting point, meh
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20:06:49 <fizzie> FWIW, apparently you can pretty much reduce either to the other. For the picture thing, add one extra photo at a fixed distance from all the other photos, and find the shortest Hamiltonian cycle: that gives the shortest Hamiltonian path on the original photos.
20:17:34 <Taneb> Oh, that's a neat trick
20:20:32 <fizzie> The other way around is trickier: you add two extra vertices with degree 1 (so they have to be the start and end of any Hamiltonian path), attach one to an arbitrary vertex and the other of a copy of that vertex with the same neighbours, and then find the shortest Hamiltonian path, which is then the shortest Hamiltonian cycle in the original graph (treating the copy as the original).
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