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< 1633998333 157052 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esolangs :^echo rev
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< 1633998336 289248 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esolangs :oops
< 1633998345 920194 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esolangs :^show rev
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< 1633998453 123802 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-2-81.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :and even the least accessed memory might be accessed too much if you have too little RAM
< 1633998462 835590 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-2-81.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :there's only so much that swap can help
< 1633998598 42591 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-2-81.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :if you have different speeds of disk, I certainly recommend putting swap on the fastest one, so an SSD on M2 port if available
< 1633998643 360296 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-2-81.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(in my spiffy new machine it's on an SSD on M2 port, but I also have enough RAM that the swap is almost never used
< 1633998653 672505 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-2-81.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :)
< 1633998712 267820 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-2-81.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I guess I should get back to that round integer puzzle, because I should be able to fill any amount of RAM trying to compute that
< 1633998900 910086 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esolangs :hm a spam purporting to be from a company i actually _do_ pay bills to.  fiendish.
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< 1633998953 401966 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esolangs :(but since the real mails about those bills actually come via the bank, fruitless).
< 1633999095 75958 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-2-81.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :oerjan: well sure, I get spam in the name of more banks and telephone/internet providers than I've ever been in real contact with, 
< 1633999116 415752 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esolangs :yep.  this time it was a telephone provider
< 1633999118 658439 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-2-81.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :plus also in the name of ebay and paypal and I think even the tax agency 
< 1633999139 698163 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh and it was in norwegian so i was actually fooled for a few seconds.
< 1633999153 504911 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-2-81.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :it's not hard to guess in a way that some of the spam match my actual contacts
< 1633999231 969122 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esolangs :true.  but i guess nvg's spam filter catches most of them for me.
< 1633999246 602021 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-2-81.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :though the largest amount that I get right now are the ones that try to claim that my email server will stop delivering emails to my inbox if I don't confirm my personal details, and/or they have already stopped delivering but I can get the emails that are on hold if I confirm my personal details, and/or the password is going to expire or I'm over the quota or whatever
< 1633999257 168841 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-2-81.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :and I have a large variety of these in different formats, which is funny
< 1633999275 393664 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-2-81.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :they're all "last warning" and "you have a day", for months now
< 1633999283 342659 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh i get those.  but since my actual email provider is a small computer club, those don't have a chance of fooling me.
< 1633999337 124133 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-2-81.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :you would think sending so many last warnings about the same thing is pointless
< 1633999347 395271 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-2-81.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I mean who's going to pay attention to the tenth one?
< 1633999354 208700 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esolangs :well i suppose some of them try to claim to be from the club, but usually in english.
< 1633999382 999080 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: standard "it's not meant to catch smart people" reply
< 1633999392 640638 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-2-81.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :yeah
< 1633999444 662829 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-2-81.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :the real target for these kinds of spam is my grandmother, not me
< 1633999474 659112 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-2-81.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(not the ones sent to my email address with my name, obviously)
< 1633999509 97795 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-2-81.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(they think I'm a time-traveler and my own grandmother)
< 1633999664 249671 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :hm, "sudo mount -a" says "mount point does not exist." so I mkdir it, then I run it and then lsblk does not show the device is being mounted
< 1633999670 682219 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esolangs :are you _sure_ you're not?  strange things happen to people's gender is this channel.
< 1633999681 238285 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :and findmnt does not show the dir to be a mounted disk too
< 1633999793 177346 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :velik what's your gender?
< 1633999807 553566 :velik!~velik@nakilon.pro PRIVMSG #esolangs : I now sat your plan
< 1633999822 44132 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :velik don't sit my plan pls
< 1633999835 316165 :velik!~velik@nakilon.pro PRIVMSG #esolangs : yep, the christmas was some, when with nmero takes back
< 1633999864 968501 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :also umount confirms that it's not mounted
< 1634000002 595285 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-2-81.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :oerjan: I'm not sure, but I very much hope that I'm not my grandmother. that would suck.
< 1634000073 246021 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-2-81.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :oerjan: also I'm now old enough that I have photos of her in my age, including wedding photos
< 1634000093 973392 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :how is this even possible https://dpaste.org/9zEr/slim
< 1634000104 340664 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-2-81.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :but I know that's not a very strong proof, the photos need not depict what they claim to
< 1634000280 698692 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esolangs :i guess strange things would have to happen to your age too.
< 1634000632 681964 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esolangs :lots to skip in the logs today
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< 1634004707 795731 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :so for some reason it's impossible to mount anything to a path that was used previously for a swap disk
< 1634004714 370875 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :so I mounted it as swap2 ..D
< 1634005082 769080 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esolangs :. o O ( maybe there's still something swapped out to it )
< 1634006003 953322 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esolangs :hmph i have defined a table that isn't on OEIS, but it has it if i only use the columns at power of 2 positions https://oeis.org/A098539
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< 1634006110 772065 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esolangs :(column 3 in my table starts 1,6,42,406,5866,133910,5034218,321429270,35668066538,7000281120534 and there's only one (irrelevant) OEIS hit that contains 406 and 5866)
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< 1634006289 753465 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esolangs :except A098539 also contains an extra column that would be 1/2 in my table :P
< 1634006309 787835 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esolangs :well it's square doesn't, by definition.
< 1634006311 984353 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esolangs :*its
< 1634006414 808098 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh hm maybe there is a way to see the connection
< 1634006494 942038 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :You mount swap disks to a path? Never heard of anything like that.
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< 1634006719 172890 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :oerjan it was after swapoff and all zeroes in free and empty proc
< 1634006818 231552 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie I mount a disk like a usual disk to then define swapfile in it or use in any another way
< 1634006840 455810 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Okay, well. I guess you can do that.
< 1634006887 504546 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Just sounds odd to insert a useless filesystem abstraction in the way if you don't have anything else in that filesystem except a swap file.
< 1634006899 946246 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :maybe
< 1634006912 460894 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :I came up to this historically
< 1634006949 520644 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :maybe I'll use the disk for anything else at the same time in future
< 1634007056 962959 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Swap devices are supposedly more performant than swap files. No idea if that *actually* matters in practice though.
< 1634007059 401051 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Files are definitely more flexible, I just wasn't expecting the disk then need to be mounted for swap purposes because if it has other uses, it'd have already been mounted for that.
< 1634007122 763460 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://serverfault.com/q/25653/67097
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< 1634007575 650573 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :I used to always set up an LVM thing because "maybe I'll need to reshuffle the way the disk is partitioned or create snapshots or something, and then it'll be convenient", and then I never ever did any of those things.
< 1634007593 884660 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :maybe there is something more to run to really-really disable swap to make the path mountable again
< 1634007603 592772 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :but guys on #linux didn't know, so I just used another path
< 1634007693 815278 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :I remember the time when I had about 10 partitions on Windows, and they were all different, the stuff was compilcated
< 1634007727 666888 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :there were so many details and combinations that limit you in the way of size and numbers of volumes/partitions
< 1634007769 940248 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :and today I just have disk C for one drive and D for a another one
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< 1634024628 331129 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-2-81.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I prefer swap partitions. Why make the kernel developers' job more difficult where they have to implement file system drivers in a way that they can be called from any weird context where you'd swap something? And why risk your undefined behavior on them doing that correctly? Swap partitions are better. The only reason not to use them is if you have something like Windows that doesn't support them.
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< 1634053940 817976 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :riv cool! it now need some materia/energy preservation
< 1634054230 60938 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :anyone familiar with configuring the rrdtool?
> 1634054591 965978 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Trivial brainfuck substitution14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=88765&oldid=87925 5* 03Kaveh Yousefi 5* (+192) 10Added !!Fuck to the list of examples.
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< 1634057270 44107 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Does Unicode have a (non-breaking, ideally) space with matched width for box drawing? 
< 1634057719 865940 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :does unicode define width?
< 1634057781 605133 :earendel!uid498179@user/earendel PRIVMSG #esolangs :you mean like &nbsp; but same size as space(bar)
< 1634057785 607448 :earendel!uid498179@user/earendel PRIVMSG #esolangs :?
< 1634057846 635937 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: U+2588 FULL BLOCK + extra-Unicode mechanisms to invert colors? ;)
< 1634057893 132223 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :eww
< 1634057904 90357 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :eryes, like that
< 1634057921 23853 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :I've seen many many broken line-drawing pictures I feel like there can't be a dedicated space of the right size.
< 1634057924 635734 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :earendel: yes, like that
< 1634057953 426555 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :IMHO the width is a responsibility of a font
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< 1634057986 722220 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :`unidecode  
< 1634057988 752917 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :​[U+2007 FIGURE SPACE]
< 1634057998 751813 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(I suspect that one is probably too narrow in practice)
< 1634058017 186640 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(Because it's specified as the same width as *digits* in fonts where digits have fixed width)
< 1634058023 925325 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Hmm, "space equal to tabular width of a font", "this is equivalent to the digit width of fonts with fixed-width digits".
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< 1634058074 960503 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :So that leaves the usual em-wide space stuff but the width of the box drawing characters seems to be completely unspecified so that doesn't help either
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< 1634058319 170303 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Heh, there's a very nice alignment test at the bottom of https://www.w3.org/2001/06/utf-8-test/UTF-8-demo.html :)
< 1634058358 829226 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :(It's just using the regular space, so it breaks in many browser/font combinations, apparently.)
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< 1634058538 67408 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :seems to be one pixel off https://i.imgur.com/EoQJWMa.png
< 1634058611 816745 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :ah but that's supposed to use a fixed width font (default for <pre>)
< 1634058646 894173 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :fine in safari too but all broken in firefox https://i.imgur.com/nOiSCEg.png
< 1634058647 800591 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :it's mostly fine here except there are 1px gaps between lines which look ugly.
< 1634058658 292786 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :but at least it's all properly aligned
< 1634058781 150899 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(hmm there is a bit of jumping around at different scales)
< 1634058808 267691 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :the gaps are probably just hinting artefacts
< 1634058899 12736 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :and perfectly aligned in Sublime Text https://i.imgur.com/ueI6S5g.png where ir's probably Andale Mono
< 1634058899 702533 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yeah, turns out "fixed width" isn't always so fixed. :)
< 1634058962 869011 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :and with Menlo in Terminal
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< 1634061868 60826 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie: Sure, but at least /in theory/ any of the half-width spaces should align with the box drawing then
< 1634061895 316842 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :while for proportional fonts all bets are off
< 1634061939 291153 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(I love how "full width" is twice the usual character size)
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< 1634062049 686441 :foxsouns!~foxsouns@168.212.100.23 PRIVMSG #esolangs :nakilon: ive updated the readme and comments to be more informative, and reformatted to account for the stupid broken replit thing
< 1634062099 860103 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :foxsouns you are still with no good machine?
< 1634062124 177424 :foxsouns!~foxsouns@168.212.100.23 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yeah. i wish i had a real one >:(
< 1634062139 146831 :foxsouns!~foxsouns@168.212.100.23 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but whatever ill make do till then
< 1634062140 484664 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Oh, who has ever seen a full height 5 1/4" device :) (I've seen *one*... it was a 70MB HDD)
< 1634062169 410711 :foxsouns!~foxsouns@168.212.100.23 PRIVMSG #esolangs :you might be able to run dos on that
< 1634062178 802870 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :It broke
< 1634062182 761708 :foxsouns!~foxsouns@168.212.100.23 PRIVMSG #esolangs :rip
< 1634062239 444329 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :But when it was alive it had MS DOS and maybe Windows 3.0? Maybe that was later...
< 1634062243 88239 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :I've seen one, but I don't think I've ever "had" one.
< 1634062251 142295 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think the HDD we had around that era was a half-height drive with 40MB of storage.
< 1634062267 445637 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :When it broke it did that in a most ridiculous way too.
< 1634062270 760931 :foxsouns!~foxsouns@168.212.100.23 PRIVMSG #esolangs :smallest "drive" ive ever had is a 1gb standard size sd card
< 1634062279 245370 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Still too big for one partition though. Had to split it to 32MB C: and an 8MB D: partitions.
< 1634062305 342125 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :One of the (MFM) address lines broke so it had tons of aliased sectors.
< 1634062314 591756 :foxsouns!~foxsouns@168.212.100.23 PRIVMSG #esolangs :smallest hdd ive dealt with was a 30gb in a 2001 laptop
< 1634062326 148613 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :To great effect on "disk repair" tools.
< 1634062387 970385 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :They just don't make hardware that way anymore ;)_
< 1634062390 618936 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Also, DoubleSpace.
< 1634062410 788502 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think I stayed away from DoubleSpace.
< 1634062422 820186 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :But I do remember the concept.
< 1634062433 719902 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :I didn't know you're not supposed to compress your Windows 3.1 system partition, so I went ahead and did it on the C: drive, and it just broke.
< 1634062460 440426 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Windows only got as far as the start-up logo, then a chunk got eaten out of it and it just hung.
< 1634062464 700851 :foxsouns!~foxsouns@168.212.100.23 PRIVMSG #esolangs :dang
< 1634062475 5823 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :you wasn't supposed to compress it using a high pressure air chamber
< 1634062485 729466 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I have used compressed file systems... because of Knoppix :P
< 1634062513 389341 :foxsouns!~foxsouns@168.212.100.23 PRIVMSG #esolangs :im spoiled, oldest os ive used was 2000
< 1634062516 569837 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(and I guess initrd, technically)
< 1634062543 444497 :foxsouns!~foxsouns@168.212.100.23 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and i think puppy at one point
< 1634062565 93641 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :let's be realistic: s/spoiled/young/
< 1634062590 87422 :foxsouns!~foxsouns@168.212.100.23 PRIVMSG #esolangs :basically
< 1634062604 297897 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(old systems did have their own charm btw... you could understand them)
< 1634062612 916158 :foxsouns!~foxsouns@168.212.100.23 PRIVMSG #esolangs :haha yeah
< 1634062631 607057 :foxsouns!~foxsouns@168.212.100.23 PRIVMSG #esolangs :hate the ambiguity of modern windows
< 1634062705 414055 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :nowadays you have to look at some really small embedded device (about the size of an arduino) to get that same feeling.
< 1634062710 377424 :foxsouns!~foxsouns@168.212.100.23 PRIVMSG #esolangs :if i had a proper system for it id probably run gentoo, but ive been stuck up till now without a system, and when i did have one it only had 4gb ram and a 1.6ghz proscessor
< 1634062711 747983 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :I invented a encoding that the width is defined (as well as simple to calculate), so hopefully that is better for a purpose where you need to render fix pitch text into a grid display. Not all of the characters are defined, but once they are that only requires providing a font; width calculation and terminal emulators and other programs do not need to change (except ones that convert encodings).
< 1634062730 211919 :foxsouns!~foxsouns@168.212.100.23 PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: pi0, maybe
< 1634062738 739970 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :yeah, maybe
< 1634062757 1894 :foxsouns!~foxsouns@168.212.100.23 PRIVMSG #esolangs :the pico, but thats not really a computer
< 1634062762 495583 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :just some 12 years ago I used hard drive that sounded differently on different volumes so when I was in another room trying to sleep and I heard a HDD noise I could realise 'that's gonna be ICQ message' before the notification sound plays
< 1634062763 665001 :foxsouns!~foxsouns@168.212.100.23 PRIVMSG #esolangs :well, not a modern one
< 1634062771 895339 :foxsouns!~foxsouns@168.212.100.23 PRIVMSG #esolangs :haha
< 1634062772 919632 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :It will not be suitable for other purposes, but I think that is acceptable since no character encoding will ever be suitable for all uses.
< 1634062820 252003 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :basically I heard every activity and knew when computer is doing something that it's not supposed to, so no background crap could waste my resources or hide itself
< 1634062851 40065 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :A code page number can be assigned, and a escape code to select by code page numbers if you need to change the selection
< 1634062856 254421 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: I don't know, I've been fiddling on an ESP32 microcontroller lately, it's running FreeRTOS and this chunky Espressif SDK with a wifi stack, I don't really have a feeling of understanding it. ;)
< 1634062879 403376 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie: not small enough :)
< 1634062896 381966 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yeah, I think it's just that I wanted it to do wifi.
< 1634062945 263907 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :I should patent a retrodevice
< 1634062997 762485 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :a thingy with a speaker that you attach to USB and it starts intercepting SSD operations and emulate the HDD sound
< 1634063004 381911 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :(But if you want to display box drawing in a terminal emulator, the VT100 codes for box drawing can be used if they are suitable)
< 1634063011 507417 :foxsouns!~foxsouns@168.212.100.23 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i kinda want a built-for-linux laptop, support the community and shit
< 1634063029 789291 :foxsouns!~foxsouns@168.212.100.23 PRIVMSG #esolangs :nakilon: haha yeah id buy that
< 1634063032 809158 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think I had used disk compression on DOS before but only because the computer came with that feature already enabled
< 1634063122 247008 :foxsouns!~foxsouns@168.212.100.23 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wish linux for arm would come along quicker :<
< 1634063183 327001 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :nakilon: Can you also have it monitor the wifi/ethernet interfaces and make the modem sounds at appropriate times? 
< 1634063195 823597 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :hehe
< 1634063207 290599 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :also it can be a software probably, not need of USB plug
< 1634063260 609571 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :It depend how well the software in the computer can be trusted to not change is one thing
< 1634063262 809095 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie it can be a browser extension probably
< 1634063285 347388 :foxsouns!~foxsouns@168.212.100.23 PRIVMSG #esolangs :zzo38: linux kernel module :)
< 1634063307 950959 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :The browser will not be the only program which accesses the internet
< 1634063330 807331 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Linux kernel module could work, yes, although it will then use up memory and CPU time
< 1634063365 263765 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :I dislike USB though, I think USB is a bad idea
< 1634063372 298732 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :it can be a service with plugins sending the signals from any kind of programs
< 1634063388 213510 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :(although maybe it could have be better designed)
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< 1634063404 32409 :foxsouns!~foxsouns@168.212.100.23 PRIVMSG #esolangs :please dont make it systemd only
< 1634063414 900047 :foxsouns!~foxsouns@168.212.100.23 PRIVMSG #esolangs :lol
< 1634063457 956834 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :I don't like systemd either, but a lot of people don't like systemd, it is full of many problems. If I would upgrade my system it would have to be to one without systemd.
< 1634063466 514585 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :"USB is a bad idea" -- but it makes a content for kickstarter video
< 1634063475 78626 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :people love physical stuff
< 1634063492 156897 :foxsouns!~foxsouns@168.212.100.23 PRIVMSG #esolangs :zzo38: devuan and artixlinux
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< 1634063615 309911 :foxsouns!~foxsouns@168.212.100.23 PRIVMSG #esolangs :zzo38: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Linux_distributions_without_systemd
< 1634063652 661897 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :No, I mean USB is badly designed, I don't mean physical hardware cannot be used. For one thing, it doesn't identify by which port it is connected to, another is needing identification by vendor codes (protocol identification would be better, although it does that too), and many other design problems. USB can be OK for providing power for some kinds of devices, though
< 1634063664 54642 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :foxsouns: OK thank you I will look
< 1634063705 85532 :foxsouns!~foxsouns@168.212.100.23 PRIVMSG #esolangs :devuan and artix are debian and arch w/ other init options, and are the main two i think of, and that page has others
< 1634063789 729253 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :what do you mean "by which port"? pretty sure I found which port I connect the speaker to just few weeks ago
< 1634063825 45829 :foxsouns!~foxsouns@168.212.100.23 PRIVMSG #esolangs :usb isnt consistent across systems, and sometimes across poweroffs
< 1634063851 943156 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :at least on Windows there is some .cpl that showed me the name of the device or something, that it's connected to "USB #5"
< 1634063930 901115 :foxsouns!~foxsouns@168.212.100.23 PRIVMSG #esolangs :then thats the 5th usb that got to the kernel, whether or not thats consistent is up to the operating system
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< 1634064147 239096 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I don't even get stable sda/sdb anymore (both are builtin devices)
< 1634064152 29773 :foxsouns!~foxsouns@168.212.100.23 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i would say a service (openrc and runit are the most popular non-systemd ones) or a kernel module would be the easiest way to do so software-wise, and on linux
< 1634064180 565170 :foxsouns!~foxsouns@168.212.100.23 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i have no idea how to do so on windows though
< 1634064189 447263 :foxsouns!~foxsouns@168.212.100.23 PRIVMSG #esolangs :software wise
< 1634065147 547523 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :I also dislike GTK. Is there alternatives of GTK which implement the same API so that the dynamic linking can be changed and then it will work?
< 1634065229 593177 :foxsouns!~foxsouns@168.212.100.23 PRIVMSG #esolangs :whats the one kde uses
< 1634066012 350736 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :I don't know
< 1634066250 657630 :foxsouns!~foxsouns@168.212.100.23 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ah, it came back to me
< 1634066256 855201 :foxsouns!~foxsouns@168.212.100.23 PRIVMSG #esolangs :zzo38: its qt
< 1634066337 793604 :foxsouns!~foxsouns@168.212.100.23 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but i dont know if it has the same api, probably not
> 1634066464 976710 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03TheXappy 5*  10New user account
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< 1634066792 186634 :foxsouns!~foxsouns@168.212.100.23 PRIVMSG #esolangs :hewhew, welcome another user
< 1634066794 183254 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-2-81.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: I saw a 100 MB HDD that is as wide as normal hard disks or CD drives (5.25 inch) but thicker, yes, it used to be in our computer when I was a small child
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< 1634066965 917663 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-2-81.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :also I'm still looking to buy a monitor, and the selection in large monitors is underwhelming
< 1634067210 956816 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-2-81.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :It still seems like I'll be buying one with 2560x1440 px resolution, so I will have to make a 24 px tall font (named fecupboard24 obviously)
< 1634067774 452198 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :The "standard" height of a CD-ROM drive bay is called "half-height", which I think int-e was referring to.
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< 1634067886 854139 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :"Full-height bays were found in old PCs in the early to mid-1980s. They were 3+1⁄4 inches (82.6 mm) high -- Half-height drive bays are 1+5⁄8 inches (41.3 mm) high --“
< 1634068014 126590 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :It's also a little confusing how they're called "5.25" bays" when they're actually 5.75" wide, but of course the bay needs to be a little bit wider than the 5.25" floppy that goes into it.
< 1634068049 266232 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-2-81.catv.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie: in that case I only saw a hard disk that is as thick as a CD drive, not a full height one
< 1634068163 83421 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :velik do you like USB?
< 1634068177 510019 :velik!~velik@nakilon.pro PRIVMSG #esolangs : you doin etc.
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< 1634070236 949669 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :oracle cloud is different from google and yandex in many ways; the minimal disk size is 50 gb even for the boot one and you don't choose between hdd, ssd, etc. but precisely select the performance stats
< 1634070483 129095 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think Xaw is mostly OK, although it isn't used so much in modern programs and is only on X. Programs using SDL might have their own widget implementations, which is what I did (and also a independent implementation of X resource manager).
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< 1634082958 908303 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :I love Apple Script
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< 1634082972 901257 :nakilon!~nakilon@user/nakilon PRIVMSG #esolangs :just look at this: " tell application "Terminal" to get the history of every tab of every window"
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