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00:23:10 <zzo38> Even if it says "you lose the game" and also split second, still you can win, anyways.
00:30:48 <b_jonas> zzo38: sure, the opponent could be stupid and react by damaging themselves with the mana ability of an Underground River
00:31:06 <b_jonas> that will make them lose before your split second card can resolve
00:34:43 <b_jonas> or they could lose from a trigger
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01:10:24 <oerjan> ooh langton's ant in backflip
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01:16:48 <esolangs> [[Talk:BackFlip]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=92732&oldid=92723 * Oerjan * (+91) /* Similarity to ants/turmites */ Cool!
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01:22:24 <oerjan> <tromp> int-e: remember i claimed that a CL basis of regular combinators needs one with 3 variables? <-- are you about to retract that claim? :)
01:24:00 <oerjan> . o O ( you know you're doing real science when being wrong is as exciting as being right )
01:24:34 <oerjan> or math.
01:24:55 <oerjan> *research
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01:26:49 <oerjan> hm i wonder if anyone famous has said something similar
01:29:29 <oerjan> The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one that heralds new discoveries, is not “Eureka” but “That's funny...” —Isaac Asimov
01:29:32 <oerjan> close enough
01:29:39 <oerjan> no wait
01:29:44 <oerjan> just parallel
01:33:30 <oerjan> last the whiteboard seems a bit anticlimactic
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02:32:42 <esolangs> [[Plurple]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=92733&oldid=92731 * Laclale * (+663) /* Commands */
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03:32:11 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/move]] move * Oerjan * moved [[User:Inferno/foresolang]] to [[Foresolang]]: In the language list, no special reason otherwise, so it should be in the main namespace
03:38:48 <oerjan> User:Language obviously has a special reason and i don't know what to do about that Melab thing.
03:52:56 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/move]] move * Oerjan * moved [[Y (programming language)]] to [[Y (Conor O'Brien)]]: More useful disambiguation
03:52:56 <esolangs> [[Special:Log/move]] move * Oerjan * moved [[Talk:Y (programming language)]] to [[Talk:Y (Conor O'Brien)]]: More useful disambiguation
03:54:09 <esolangs> [[Y]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=92740&oldid=60801 * Oerjan * (-7) Snap redirect
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03:58:36 <esolangs> [[Plurple]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=92741&oldid=92733 * Laclale * (+188) /* Commands */
04:02:29 <esolangs> [[Talk:Y (Conor O'Brien)]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=92742&oldid=92738 * Oerjan * (+378) Half done
04:08:18 <esolangs> [[Plurple]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=92743&oldid=92741 * Laclale * (+37) /* Commands */
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04:25:49 <esolangs> [[Language list]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=92745&oldid=92700 * Oerjan * (+67) Ginorst & some cleanup
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09:12:19 <int-e> tromp: I do remember, same question as oerjan...
09:13:19 <int-e> meh, I missed an announcement that there's no running water today.
09:16:05 <int-e> though I did avoid worst case scenarios like... being in the showerwhile they switch the water off
09:16:39 <oerjan> ouch
09:17:36 <FireFly> heh
09:20:52 <int-e> (And it'll be back mid afternoon. They did the same thing last Thursday, but that time I was prepared.)
09:25:22 <int-e> "файл" always cracks me up when I see it. (duckduckgo seems to think I'm russian)
09:26:55 <int-e> (it's a phonetic transliteration of "file")
09:53:36 <riv> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Btv68SAk-oM <- I think the first half of this video was great
09:53:41 <riv> I closed it for the second half
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11:05:22 <riv> fungot: You CAPTCHALOGUE them in your SYLLADEX. You have no idea what that actually means though.
11:05:23 <fungot> riv: why are there so few major lisps? ( networking and concurrency, despite my fnord it assumes absolute... if you wanted :)
11:15:17 <riv> > UTC is currently exactly 37 seconds behind TAI. The 37 seconds result from the initial difference of 10 seconds at the start of 1972, plus 27 leap seconds in UTC since 1972.
11:15:18 <riv> > It is also easy to convert GPS time to TAI, as TAI is always exactly 19 seconds ahead of GPS time
11:15:18 <lambdabot> <hint>:1:99: error: parse error on input ‘of’
11:15:20 <lambdabot> <hint>:1:43: error: parse error on input ‘,’
11:15:36 <riv> nmbers related to leap seconds: 37, 27, 10, 19
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11:29:30 <int-e> fungot: should I fix these 38 warnings? :-/
11:29:30 <fungot> int-e: can't grep for the stuff it needs ( such as those depicted on that page
11:30:07 <riv> fungot: you dropped this: )
11:30:08 <fungot> riv: s/ hum/ fnord right now. need to not compile one or the other
11:31:45 <int-e> (some of those are stupid. i8 = i8 + i8 causes C++ to implicitly convert to int, then complain about the narrowing back to i8. Uh, where i8 = int8_t = signed char.)
11:32:07 <int-e> s/C++/g++/
11:33:27 <sknebel> free overflow risk warning :D
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11:34:07 <int-e> apparently clang++ treats it as an error.
11:36:05 <int-e> sknebel: fine, but then why doesn't it give int + int the same treeatment...
11:38:14 <sknebel> yeah, it should offer that too
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12:03:07 <tromp> int-e: i made some conjectures that would imply that result, hoping to prove them. but i alrd found counterexamples to two different conjectures. i'll keep trying though, using every counterexampole to make a new conjecture....
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12:16:25 <fizzie> ^style homestuck
12:16:25 <fungot> Selected style: homestuck (Homestuck pages 1901-4673)
12:16:32 <fizzie> fungot: Say something thematically appropriate?
12:16:32 <fungot> fizzie: not that it would actually bother pitying you. i'm giving aradia a present that will make a new suit is all business quite frankly his brother makes a man want
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12:16:46 <fizzie> Slightly disappointing.
12:30:47 <esolangs> [[List of ideas]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=92747&oldid=92690 * ColorfulGalaxy * (+162) /* Ideas for Names */ This is not a page request.
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12:36:07 <int-e> is this a bell curve? https://paste.debian.net/1229174/
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12:37:00 <riv> :)
12:37:43 <sknebel> over the weekend I stumbled over https://esolangs.org/wiki/LogOS
12:38:07 <sknebel> would be fun to have something along those lines where the interpreter works by clicking/alt-tabbing around a windows98 VM or sth
12:38:33 <sknebel> (also, the proposed spec seems to lack branching?)
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12:44:35 <esolangs> [[User:ProjectEuler/pagebar]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=92748&oldid=91813 * ColorfulGalaxy * (+627) Attempt to fix a bug
12:55:25 <riv> fungot: by gum!
12:55:26 <fungot> riv: is it fair to say this whole thing is ridiculous
12:57:26 <esolangs> [[Project Euler/3]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=92749&oldid=91819 * ColorfulGalaxy * (+206) Fixed template bug
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13:08:01 <riv> https://www.homestuck.com/story/115
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13:17:31 <oerjan> fungot: pretty fair
13:17:31 <fungot> oerjan: be in cahoots with! you guess none the wiser, you board the shuttle. next stop, it's unbecoming suspense. you sincerely pity anyone who might be forced to face. you are jacked open on my lap and primed for the digestive ruination that's about to take is the ultimate riddle.
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13:18:36 <int-e> ^style
13:18:36 <fungot> Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck* ic irc iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack oots pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp ukparl youtube
13:18:56 <int-e> `? password
13:18:58 <HackEso> The password of the month is Caught-22
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14:34:34 <kit> hi, im making an esolang based on sound frequencies via FFT and i need some help on deciding how i should convert frequencies to commands and stuff
14:35:10 <kit> idk what commands should be what frequencies
14:35:14 <kit> like
14:35:34 <kit> yea
14:35:40 <kit> idk how to phrase it?
14:36:01 <kit> i already have the thing to parse the pitches from the audio file
14:36:13 <kit> and convert it into a format that can be easily interpreted
14:36:19 <kit> i just need to make the interpreter
14:37:18 <kit> perhaps i can make it stack based
14:37:31 <kit> stack based langs are fun
14:38:43 <sknebel> I guess the "lazy" way is mapping to symbols in some other esolang. i.e. see all the variants of brainfuck that are brainfuck with other symbols. but there could be fun things with multiple frequencies in parallel
14:39:05 <kit> yea i was thinking about asynchronous
14:39:23 <sknebel> e.g. conditional jumps could be a tone splitting into two, and following the higher/lower one as a "line" to the right command sequence?
14:39:28 <kit> but i also dont want it to be a bf derivative because those are done to fucking death
14:39:33 <sknebel> yeah :D
14:39:42 <kit> hmm
14:39:55 <kit> i was thinking id map commands to frequencies
14:40:13 <kit> and for asynchronousity you can have multiple commands run at the same time
14:40:28 <kit> say, 440hz would be print or smth
14:40:49 <kit> but then comes the question how would i deal with multiple things modifying the same thing at once
14:43:08 <kit> ooh what if i had octaves mapped to various stacks
14:44:42 <kit> huh, how come when i go to places to talk about a problem im having i always figure it out myselgf
14:45:30 <kit> i could have commands mapped to chords, octaves map to different stacks...
14:45:34 <kit> bee
14:47:30 <sknebel> octave stacks is a fun idea
14:47:43 <sknebel> so you have multiple threads
14:56:13 <kit> wait
14:56:26 <kit> how would i deal with non-linear time things
14:56:27 <kit> like
14:56:28 <kit> loops
14:56:31 <kit> and conditionals
14:56:52 <kit> atm its just a stream of frequencies present in the audio
14:57:20 <kit> i may need to divide the frequencies up during preprocessing
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15:06:39 <kit> im beginning to realize that it was a really bad idea to do this in C++...
15:07:22 <kit> fuck it im rewriting it in python
15:11:39 <kit> nope
15:11:58 <kit> i do not like python
15:12:05 <kit> im rambling arent i
15:12:10 <kit> ill shut up now
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16:04:14 <tromp> inr-e: here's my current Combinatory Logic Basis conjecture. Let T be a term over a basis of regular 2-variable combinators
16:06:21 <tromp> then 1) T contains no subterm with 3 free variables, and 2) T contains no subterm T' with 2 free variables which has a subsubterm T'' with 2 free variables that are bound in T'
16:08:14 <tromp> it seems to me that 1) & 2) together are preserved under beta reduction
16:10:17 <tromp> to clarify, the pattern that 2) avoids is T = ... \x ... \y. T_xy, and T_xy = ... \a ... \b. T_ab
16:10:38 <tromp> with T_xy denoting a term contains variables x and y
16:11:35 <tromp> (I should have added more ... after those T_)
16:13:51 <tromp> and inr-e should be int-e :-)
16:17:59 <riv> > "the Indian numbering system groups the rightmost three digits together (until the hundreds place), and thereafter groups by sets of two digits."
16:18:00 <lambdabot> "the Indian numbering system groups the rightmost three digits together (unt...
16:28:28 <int-e> hmm, can gdb access varargs arguments in a convenient way?
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16:41:16 <int-e> I guess not, but `info frame` gives me stack pointers to look nearby.
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17:02:51 <shachaf> i,i "The full documentation for the stack frame is maintained as a Texinfo manual."
17:04:42 <int-e> is there something magical about va_start() that relies on information that only the compiler knows, not the debugger?
17:07:13 <shachaf> I would guess that on a platform like amd64 with a complicated calling convention, the presence of va_start in a function tells the compiler to save registers in case it needs them.
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17:13:50 <leah2> go crux
17:13:56 <leah2> bla
17:14:35 <int-e> tromp: I don't understand the clarification of 2). Shouldn't there be x and y under the \a \b?
17:15:16 <tromp> no, that's not required
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17:17:02 <tromp> the thing is that a term as in 1) that fails 2) as stated can beta reduce in one step to a term that fails 1)
17:17:57 <tromp> simplest example being \x\y.(\a\z.z a) (x y)
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17:20:56 <int-e> Ah.
17:21:37 <int-e> Right, 1) means you can't have x or y free in T_ab because that would make 3 free variables.
17:21:51 <tromp> the conjecture should exclude all patterns that through beta reduction can result in a regular 3-variable combinator
17:22:45 <tromp> right
17:25:16 <tromp> quiz time: what's the simplest complete basis including W = \x\y.x y y as the only duplicating combinator?
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18:14:33 <esolangs> [[Project Euler/3]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=92750&oldid=92749 * PythonshellDebugwindow * (-21) /* C */ remove unused #define
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20:32:36 <riv> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_formatting_and_storage_bugs#Year_2022
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