00:22:03 <ais523> zzo38: I think this is normally called an "API" rather than a "format" – it's certainly possible to design something like that but it's unlikely that people will use it
00:26:30 <zzo38> Yes, but still each part will have functions to call each other, unlike some other API
00:36:33 <b_jonas> fungot, have you tried the new object-oriented version of Skype?
00:36:33 <fungot> b_jonas: im not that important to me how many people watching??? u most b kiding me rigt like.
00:53:41 <fizzie> fungot: u most b kiding me by using that sort of vernacular.
00:53:42 <fungot> fizzie: 5) bad idea bad results. stupid and simply not worth commenting so why do you keep telling yourself that.
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03:32:22 <esolangs> [[Deadfish]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93026&oldid=93006 * Laclale * (+331) /* Perl */
03:37:29 <esolangs> [[Boyfriend.xml]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=93027 * McDude73 * (+975) Created page with "'''Boyfriend.xml''' is a joke [[esoteric programming language]] created by [[User:McDude73]] in 2022 based on the player's main avatar from Friday Night Funkin', Boyfriend ..."
03:39:23 <esolangs> [[Joke language list]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93028&oldid=92953 * McDude73 * (+20) /* General languages */
03:40:07 <esolangs> [[Plurple]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93029&oldid=93002 * Laclale * (+36) /* XKCD fish */
03:40:23 <esolangs> [[Boyfriend.xml]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93030&oldid=93027 * McDude73 * (+0)
03:43:56 <esolangs> [[Boyfriend.xml]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93031&oldid=93030 * McDude73 * (+7) /* Basic idea */
03:44:42 <esolangs> [[Boyfriend.xml]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93032&oldid=93031 * McDude73 * (+0) /* Architecture */
03:45:34 <esolangs> [[Boyfriend.xml]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93033&oldid=93032 * McDude73 * (+26) /* Architecture */
03:51:00 <esolangs> [[User:McDude73]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93034&oldid=89969 * McDude73 * (+13) /* Joke languages */
04:32:07 <esolangs> [[Plurple]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93035&oldid=93029 * Laclale * (+21) /* Calculatives */
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05:39:56 <esolangs> [[ECL]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93037&oldid=93036 * Bushbo * (+2) /* Introduction */
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06:12:27 <esolangs> [[Simpler]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93039&oldid=93038 * Yeetb01 * (-8) prn Print value
07:47:06 <esolangs> [[Language list]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93040&oldid=93010 * Soyuzguy123! * (+13) added SRlang to the list
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08:55:25 <esolangs> [[Language list]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93042&oldid=93040 * Oerjan * (+0) orst
08:56:38 <ais523> oerjan: can I confirm that I put Advance The Wheel! in the correct spot on the language list? I wasn't sure how the alphabetisation rule interacted with spaces
08:58:28 <oerjan> ais523: you did (and i made a comment on irc but maybe you didn't notice the ping because it was just after your edits)
08:58:45 <ais523> ah right, I did indeed miss the ping
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09:17:16 <esolangs> [[Plurple]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93043&oldid=93035 * Laclale * (+75) /* Examples */
09:42:12 <oerjan> sorry dr. monahan, but lucrezia is probably right
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09:51:42 <esolangs> [[Woodchuck/Implementation]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93045&oldid=86451 * Rdococ * (+1)
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13:03:49 <oerjan> argh astral codex ten front page changed to embed the whole posts directly
13:06:44 <oerjan> ok i can use the archive page instead
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14:24:17 <esolangs> [[Boyfriend.xml]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93051&oldid=93041 * McDude73 * (+0) /* Basic idea */
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14:49:24 <esolangs> [[Esolang:Introduce yourself]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93052&oldid=93008 * CapeMan * (+196) /* Introductions */
15:17:38 <esolangs> [[C()]] https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93053&oldid=93048 * Rdococ * (+614) Add "copy-with-assignment-made" assignment operator and first-class functions
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18:53:31 <esolangs> [[Talk:MechaniQue]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=93060 * Monochromeninja * (+2612) created page, added my post
19:05:15 <b_jonas> oerjan: I recommend https://www.datasecretslox.com/index.php?board=12.0 instead of the archive page. works without magic javascript "scroll down load more" nonsense.
19:07:32 <int-e> fungot: are you capable of bottomless scroll?
19:07:33 <fungot> int-e: you didnt put mcgruber on there. simple.
19:09:23 <zzo38> If you make the viewport height property to return an exception or return a negative number or Infinity, how much will that confuse them?
19:12:59 <int-e> Ah, happy to see that "bottomless scroll" is already in use. It could be more popular though.
19:14:12 <int-e> (I *mostly* don't mind it that much... except that it makes scrollbars lie. That's abominable, I use those as progress indicators.)
19:17:43 <fizzie> I thought "infinite scroll" is the standard word for that.
19:18:05 <zzo38> I mostly dislike web pages with JavaScripts (and also CSS), in general. There are some ways to improve some situations in client implementations, though, in some cases.
19:18:13 <fizzie> Bottomless scroll sounds like that thing they offer in restaurants with non-capped drink refills. Bottomless brunch and so on.
19:19:12 <int-e> fizzie: Yes, "infinite scroll" is standard. "bottomless" is expressing a sentiment.
19:20:03 <int-e> Because I have this tendency to fall into those scrolls and realize after 3 updates what's happening. And then I get annoyed.
19:20:53 <int-e> It also connects nicely with concepts like the bottom of a page.
19:21:22 <zzo38> I mostly disable the scripts anyways
19:22:51 <oerjan> b_jonas: i don't think that link fits the limited purpose i want to _use_ that archive page for
19:24:02 <int-e> zzo38: I do too. So it doesn't happen *too* often; I'm familiar with the most frequent instances of that pattern (youtube, mostly, for me)
19:26:04 <oerjan> (basically the archive page looks similar to what the front page used to be until about today)
19:35:46 <zzo38> What is needed (also mention in a web page from GNU) is that you can substitute scripts and parts of scripts. However, I should think that it is not good enough; scripts added by the end user should have the capability of native codes too, and needs possibility to inspect the received scripts and to override certain functionalities even if you do not want to override everything.
19:36:56 <zzo38> There are also some new functions and HTTP headers I had seen mentioned; if there is possibility for end user to customize them then it can help, but as it is, it is not helpful and may be harmful. Even, you can remove many other options if this one is added, since if you have request/response overriding then you do not need the option for cookies, languages, etc.
19:38:04 <zzo38> It can then use the request/response overriding also to disable autoplay (since they have defined headers to do that, already), scripts, iframes, and other features, as well as to force them to be enabled, too.
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19:43:57 <zzo38> The document view format that I mentioned is one part of what would be my idea making a better web browser out of C header files (without executable codes), and then the actual implementations can be modular.
19:45:32 <b_jonas> int-e: is bottomless scroll like the bottomless drink in the title text of https://xkcd.com/1099/ ?
19:45:52 <b_jonas> yeah, what fizzie says, restaurants
19:46:37 <int-e> a bottomless drink doesn't sound very attractive
19:47:02 <int-e> It'll make a big splash and who mops the floor afterwards?
19:47:57 <zzo38> I would expect the people who are doing the cleaning, will mop the floor afterward, but if that is too common then someone will complain
19:48:07 <int-e> "A skeleton walks into a bar and asks for a beer and a mop."
19:48:22 <riv> orders spare ribs
19:51:11 <HackEso> CDOP is OCPD, except with the letters in the *proper* order.
20:05:27 <esolangs> [[Talk:AmBored]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=93061 * Monochromeninja * (+1230) created page, added my post
20:06:01 <esolangs> [[AmBored]] M https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=93062&oldid=79445 * Monochromeninja * (-2) changed category unimplemented to implemented -- implementation is on the talk page
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21:13:38 <fizzie> Hmf. The space bar of this (relatively cheap, "non-mechanical", scissor-switch) keyboard still works properly, but somehow it's lost the tactile feedback bump completely. I didn't even know that was a possible failure mode.
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