00:01:43 <fizzie> I think Cling supports #! as well.
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04:22:03 <esolangs> [[Talk:Uzumaki]] N https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=94753 * Celtschk * (+629) What does it mean to e.g. add 10 to the queue? And why is output NOOP?
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06:43:26 <river> https://twitter.com/johncarlosbaez/status/1514604371882876931
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07:19:44 <b_jonas> oh heck. seeing "Hungarian border" on the en.Wikipedia front-page is scary, but it's not about the ukraine war, it's about world war II
07:20:47 <river> sheeeeesh
08:11:54 <b_jonas> are all SATA drives and driver hardware supposed to be hotpluggable, or only some of them?
08:17:42 <river> I didn't know any SATA was hot pluggable
08:17:45 <river> I wouldn't risk it
08:18:41 <b_jonas> it's at least *sometimes* hotpluggable, because there are external cases for SATA drives that connect through USB and the ensemble is hotpluggable on USB
08:20:41 <river> yes USB, but
08:22:04 <b_jonas> wasn't this supposed to be one of the improvements over ATA, which is definitely not hotpluggable and can fry your motherboard if you try?
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10:40:41 <fizzie> There's an "enable hotplugging" per-port option in my BIOS settings, so I agree it's at least sometimes hotpluggable.
10:42:11 <fizzie> I've turned that on for the one port that's connected to a 5.25" drive slot dock for a 3.5" drive, and haven't had any trouble making use of it.
10:42:31 <fizzie> But I don't know what exactly the option does/changes.
10:44:27 <fizzie> (I use that dock for the backup hard drive, since it makes it easier to occasionally swap between the off-site backup drive and the one that's getting the automatic incremental updates.)
10:47:30 <fizzie> Wikipedia claims that: "The Serial ATA spec requires SATA devices be capable of hot plugging; that is, devices that meet the specification are capable of insertion or removal of a device into or from a backplane connector (combined signal and power) that has power on."
10:48:11 <b_jonas> fizzie: does "devices" there include the driver on the motherboard's side?
10:48:19 <b_jonas> or an expansion card etc
10:48:23 <b_jonas> or only the drives
10:48:58 <fizzie> I suspect it doesn't automatically mean all software is okay with it.
10:49:51 <fizzie> But if it's an explicit spec requirement at least I hope it means the drives don't need to be special "enterprise" models.
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10:50:14 <b_jonas> the drives are probably compatible, I'm asking about the motherboards
10:52:02 <b_jonas> some motherboards or expansion cards are, because these days people are making big hot-swappable raid arrays from sata hard disks instead of scsi, but those require bigger cards or motherboards than what I have, 
10:52:18 <b_jonas> or what someone else has
10:52:51 <fizzie> I imagine if there's that kind of a BIOS setting for it, it's a good sign it's at least supported on some level. If not, then I don't know how you'd be able to tell.
10:54:23 <fizzie> 'pedia's source link is to https://web.archive.org/web/20090124023117/http://ata.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Software_status#Hotplug_support which does imply its sometimes not supported.
10:57:00 <b_jonas> thanks
11:02:37 <b_jonas> fizzie: ah, that explicitly says "Most SATA controllers are hotplug-capable, if your system bus (PCI, etc.) is also hotplug-capable."
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12:32:56 <b_jonas> hehe. you know how the Cormen-Leiserson-Rivest-Stein Algorithms book does in a large part have its included material selected to what would compliment TAOCP well?  So since TAOCP talks about red-black trees only briefly, Cormen-Leiserson-Rivest-Stein describes them in full. But this becomes funny, because the current edition of TAOCP chapter 6.2.3 actually points to CLRS for where to read more about 
12:33:02 <b_jonas> red-black trees.
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12:33:43 <b_jonas> What's next, will it reference the ed. Iványi book too in a few years? References to the future are funny.
12:34:25 <b_jonas> Obviously this is the correct way to do bibliographic references in the digital age, I just find it funny because I always think of TSOCP vol 3 2nd edition as a four decades old book
12:36:39 <b_jonas> It's not actually: the 2nd edition is from 1998
12:37:10 <b_jonas> it's only the 1st edition, on which the Hungarian translation was based on, that's that old
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23:33:04 <fizzie> There's this song that starts with a fragment of a sentence repeated a couple of times with a low-fidelity speech synthesizer, I *think* it probably says "I am the light" but I keep hearing it as "iron delight".
23:43:50 <int-e> "misheard lyrics" is an viable (but awful) youtube keyword.