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> 1651365447 294070 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07WUUI14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=95427&oldid=95426 5* 03Ais523 5* (+0) 10/* Programming in WUUI */ typo fix
> 1651365572 360084 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03Heav 5*  10New user account
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> 1651365637 24603 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Spiral Rise14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=95429&oldid=70343 5* 03Ais523 5* (+0) 10/* Computational class */ typo fix
> 1651365949 71274 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07The best esolang ever14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=95430 5* 03Heav 5* (+690) 10Created page with "{{lowercase}} {{infobox proglang |name=The best esolang ever |paradigms=The best ones |author=[[User:Heav]] |year=[[:Category:2022|2022]] |memsys=A really good system |dimensi..."
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> 1651366820 425797 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07BlueBell14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=95433&oldid=95432 5* 03PixelatedStarfish 5* (+57) 10/* Program Examples */
> 1651366875 828642 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07BlueBell14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=95434&oldid=95433 5* 03PixelatedStarfish 5* (+2) 10/* Hello World */
> 1651366978 760930 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:The best esolang ever14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=95435 5* 03Emerald 5* (+411) 10Created page with "== you are going to end esolangs == Heav what have you done, this esoteric programming language is far too powerful for the esolanging community<br> You have made an esolang s..."
> 1651367105 597657 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07The best esolang ever14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=95436&oldid=95430 5* 03Razetime 5* (+56) 10
> 1651367117 795460 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Heav14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=95437 5* 03Razetime 5* (+4) 10Created page with "heav"
> 1651367963 152641 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07BlueBell14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=95438&oldid=95434 5* 03PixelatedStarfish 5* (+549) 10/* An Indirect Proof */
> 1651368005 342136 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07BlueBell14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=95439&oldid=95438 5* 03PixelatedStarfish 5* (-7) 10/* Proof by Translation to bf */
> 1651368498 659937 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07BlueBell14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=95440&oldid=95439 5* 03PixelatedStarfish 5* (+156) 10/* Proof by Translation to bf */
> 1651368654 999767 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07BlueBell14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=95441&oldid=95440 5* 03PixelatedStarfish 5* (+0) 10/* Proof by Translation to bf */
> 1651368787 902696 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07The best esolang ever14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=95442&oldid=95436 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+18) 10category
> 1651368798 303479 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07BlueBell14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=95443&oldid=95441 5* 03PixelatedStarfish 5* (+43) 10/* Proof by Translation to bf */
> 1651369163 467310 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07BlueBell14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=95444&oldid=95443 5* 03PixelatedStarfish 5* (+181) 10/* Arguments */
< 1651369764 735168 :ccx!~ccx@82.142.125.46 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds
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> 1651370209 377717 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07BlueBell14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=95446&oldid=95445 5* 03PixelatedStarfish 5* (+12) 10/* Proof by Translation to bf */
< 1651370374 293771 :littlebobeep!~alMalsamo@gateway/tor-sasl/almalsamo QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds
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> 1651370739 822853 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07A?b.14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=95447&oldid=95398 5* 03Masalt 5* (+1) 10/* Hello World */
> 1651370770 721439 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07A?b.14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=95448&oldid=95447 5* 03Masalt 5* (+2) 10/* Hello World */
> 1651370790 229905 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07A?b.14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=95449&oldid=95448 5* 03Masalt 5* (-93) 10/* Truth machine */
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> 1651373317 321134 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Heav14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=95450&oldid=95437 5* 03Heav 5* (+132) 10
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< 1651380721 800862 :tromp!~textual@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl QUIT :Client Quit
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> 1651384001 332111 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07The Maze14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=95451&oldid=95313 5* 03LEOMOK 5* (+9) 10
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> 1651384031 307437 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07The Maze14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=95453&oldid=95452 5* 03LEOMOK 5* (-5) 10
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> 1651384068 874669 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07The Maze14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=95454&oldid=95453 5* 03LEOMOK 5* (-27) 10
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< 1651384828 158750 :SGautam!uid286066@id-286066.ilkley.irccloud.com JOIN #esolangs SGautam :Siddharth Gautam
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> 1651389145 200252 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07The Maze14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=95457&oldid=95456 5* 03LEOMOK 5* (+0) 10
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< 1651392092 279822 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
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< 1651392485 870096 :hppavilion[1]!~hppavilio@254-62-174-206.static.gci.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :`? test
< 1651393850 101637 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :> '`' == '`'
< 1651393851 714857 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot PRIVMSG #esolangs : True
< 1651394019 327784 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie... hmm, fizzie knows I think
> 1651394061 970259 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07A?b.14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=95458&oldid=95449 5* 03Masalt 5* (+7) 10
> 1651394082 784660 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07A?b.14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=95459&oldid=95458 5* 03Masalt 5* (+0) 10
< 1651394087 677446 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://logs.esolangs.org/libera-esolangs/2022-04-26.html#l8
> 1651394310 59494 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07A?b.14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=95460&oldid=95459 5* 03Masalt 5* (+0) 10
< 1651394331 304900 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-240.catv.fixed.vodafone.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :in the meantime we only have perlbot, j-bot, lambdabot, fungot on the channel. kind of less than we're used to but still can be used for programming.
< 1651394331 480134 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::a PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: i think he does. who wouldn't?.
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< 1651394999 582612 :hppavilion[1]!~hppavilio@254-62-174-206.static.gci.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :Heh, fungot
< 1651394999 823658 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::a PRIVMSG #esolangs :hppavilion[1]: ( my-list 1 2 3) ' (
< 1651395003 585983 :hppavilion[1]!~hppavilio@254-62-174-206.static.gci.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :I forgot about fungot
< 1651395004 86858 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::a PRIVMSG #esolangs :hppavilion[1]: what i mean, c++?), fnord well), paths are records with three fields: a list of threads!
< 1651395016 273660 :hppavilion[1]!~hppavilio@254-62-174-206.static.gci.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :What was it? Markov chains?
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> 1651395173 340268 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Cantonese14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=95461&oldid=95351 5* 03Indigo 5* (+9) 10
< 1651395247 883466 :kee!~wizzwizz4@user/wizzwizz4 JOIN #esolangs wizzwizz4 :wizzwizz4
> 1651395313 605301 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Language list14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=95462&oldid=95368 5* 03Indigo 5* (+16) 10Added Cantonese
< 1651395751 219643 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-240.catv.fixed.vodafone.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :hppavilion[1]: fungot is the least programmable among them, because it has way too strict limits on runtime and program length 
< 1651395751 729398 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::a PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: you can only use the very lowest bit is 0 for a dirty way to segfault without the section attribute.), the other just uses the html title... but why not
< 1651395808 641016 :hppavilion[1]!~hppavilio@254-62-174-206.static.gci.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :I always make the mistake of trying to parse things fungot says.
< 1651395809 162597 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::a PRIVMSG #esolangs :hppavilion[1]: but no, not exactly the same version around any longer. now there's a real camera version of creative's pc cam.
< 1651395843 939025 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-240.catv.fixed.vodafone.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :also in unrelated news, SGDQ 2022 list of accepted runs is public now
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> 1651396904 372486 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03E3w034q53 5*  10New user account
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< 1651398894 114982 :tech_exorcist!13203@user/tech-exorcist/x-0447479 JOIN #esolangs tech_exorcist :he/him - IT, EN
> 1651400054 564763 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07HeacunQ9+14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=95463 5* 03AmNow 5* (+984) 10Created page with "HeacunQ9+ is an esoteric programming language derived from [[HQ9+]], and was made by [[User:AmNow|AmNow]].  == Commands ==  # H - Print [[Hello, World!]]. # E - Execut..."
> 1651400068 703220 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:AmNow14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=95464&oldid=95141 5* 03AmNow 5* (+18) 10
> 1651400167 444539 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=95465&oldid=95462 5* 03AmNow 5* (+18) 10/* H */ lang
> 1651400193 851170 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:AmNow14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=95466&oldid=95464 5* 03AmNow 5* (-2) 10
> 1651400972 312032 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create10 02 5* 03RedGoldBelt 5*  10New user account
> 1651401171 621451 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=95467&oldid=95428 5* 03RedGoldBelt 5* (+174) 10/* Introductions */
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< 1651401918 351778 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 NICK :Lord_of_Life
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> 1651403535 643918 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Brainfoctal14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=95468&oldid=75553 5* 03Jan Gamecuber 5* (+73) 10
> 1651403703 365670 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=95469&oldid=95467 5* 03E3w034q53 5* (+176) 10E3w034q53
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> 1651404262 641670 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07ight14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=95470&oldid=87928 5* 03Jan Gamecuber 5* (+1449) 10Adding rectwrap and more length to the output.
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< 1651405849 361456 :Guest98!~Guest98@148-252-96.22.3p.ntebredband.no PRIVMSG #esolangs :Can a truth-machine use anything other than 1 or 0? I made one in Homespring that outputs either False or an infinite series of True. It only considers True, true, 1, and "In Homespring, the null program is not a quine." without quotes as True. Everything else returns False. I could make it only use 1 and 0, but it would be boring and way too easy,
< 1651405849 860958 :Guest98!~Guest98@148-252-96.22.3p.ntebredband.no PRIVMSG #esolangs :since Homespring is such a useful and programming practical language.
< 1651405885 502391 :Guest98!~Guest98@148-252-96.22.3p.ntebredband.no PRIVMSG #esolangs :*Practical programming language
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< 1651406282 822328 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Oh, right, HackEso. I've been on a trip to Canterbury, forgot about that.
< 1651406359 906979 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Hmm, kind of looks like it's failing to connect. Odd.
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< 1651406451 235569 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Due to: socat[61] E getaddrinfo("irc.libera.chat", "NULL", {1,0,1,6}, {}): Temporary failure
< 1651406471 256836 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Think the container's resolv.conf still has the previous platform's DNS servers.
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< 1651406809 777004 :Guest98!~Guest98@148-252-96.22.3p.ntebredband.no PRIVMSG #esolangs :What is fungot?
< 1651406810 68766 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::a PRIVMSG #esolangs :Guest98: so i've been panicking abotu this lately...)
< 1651406831 657333 :Guest98!~Guest98@148-252-96.22.3p.ntebredband.no PRIVMSG #esolangs :fungot
< 1651406832 63889 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::a PRIVMSG #esolangs :Guest98: fnord. ( to everybody). the gamma function: http://upload.wikimedia.org/ wikipedia/ commons/ thumb/ fnord/ fun/ fnord/ fnord
< 1651406836 968401 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :There's an explanation in https://github.com/fis/fungot/blob/master/README.md
< 1651406837 479771 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::a PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie: qt is written in fnord. i did a little.) have lower precedence than *shrugs*. mind you, but i think it's pretty simple
< 1651406866 39444 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :I guess there's also an explanation in https://esolangs.org/wiki/Fungot for that matter.
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< 1651406983 572318 :Guest98!~Guest98@148-252-96.22.3p.ntebredband.no PRIVMSG #esolangs :^style
< 1651406983 745023 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::a PRIVMSG #esolangs :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc* iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack oots pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp ukparl youtube
< 1651407004 791245 :Guest98!~Guest98@148-252-96.22.3p.ntebredband.no PRIVMSG #esolangs :what a selection
< 1651407147 166192 :Guest98!~Guest98@148-252-96.22.3p.ntebredband.no PRIVMSG #esolangs :^show
< 1651407147 250209 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::a PRIVMSG #esolangs :echo reverb rev rot13 rev2 fib wc ul cho choo pow2 source help hw srmlebac uenlsbcmra scramble unscramble asc ord prefixes tmp test celebrate wiki chr ha rainbow rainbow2 welcome me tell eval elikoski list ping def a thanks tmp2 8ball rreree rerere botsnack bf 
< 1651407157 394857 :Guest98!~Guest98@148-252-96.22.3p.ntebredband.no PRIVMSG #esolangs :^rainbow
< 1651407176 319330 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :^rainbow needs some input maybe
< 1651407176 409466 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::a PRIVMSG #esolangs :02n03e04e05d06s07 08s09o02m03e04 05i06n07p08u09t02 03m04a05y06b07e
< 1651407185 938364 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :^show rainbow
< 1651407185 979437 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::a PRIVMSG #esolangs :+3>4+6[->+8<],[<4.>[->+>+<2]>2-[-[-[-[-[-[-[<[-]>[-]]]]]]]]<[-<+>2+<]<+>4.[-<2+>3+<]<2+2.[-]>.>2[-<+>]<2,]
< 1651407200 302127 :Guest98!~Guest98@148-252-96.22.3p.ntebredband.no PRIVMSG #esolangs :neat
< 1651407239 471354 :Guest98!~Guest98@148-252-96.22.3p.ntebredband.no PRIVMSG #esolangs :Can you add a way to see only user-defined commands?
< 1651407289 79903 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Anything in ^show *is* user-defined. People have just added user-defined commands for ^ul and ^bf for documentation purposes.
< 1651407291 415908 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :^show ul
< 1651407291 456786 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::a PRIVMSG #esolangs :(^ul -- evaluates Underload)S
< 1651407294 23956 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :^ul
< 1651407294 105563 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::a PRIVMSG #esolangs :^ul -- evaluates Underload
< 1651407304 792840 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :^ul (this triggers the built-in instead)S
< 1651407304 834221 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::a PRIVMSG #esolangs :this triggers the built-in instead
< 1651407329 879641 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :(That's because the built-in is triggered by a leading "^ul " prefix, including the space.)
< 1651407336 816098 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :^show bf
< 1651407336 881406 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::a PRIVMSG #esolangs :(^bf -- evaluates brainfuck)S
< 1651407344 432367 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :ah
< 1651407363 679139 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Arguably that one should've been written in brainfuck just for consistency. But then it'd be substantially longer.
< 1651407370 154650 :FireFly!~firefly@glowbum/gluehwuermchen/firefly PRIVMSG #esolangs :heh
< 1651407928 942546 :esolangs!~esolangs@techne.zem.fi JOIN #esolangs esolangs :esolangs.org
< 1651407929 173425 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services.libera.chat MODE #esolangs +v :esolangs
< 1651407975 826075 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(But I have no clue to what extent that is automagic, and to what extend it's something you have to configure. I've only touched Linux' namespaces at their lowest level.)
< 1651408030 641454 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :(I don't know what was up with _that_ bot, maybe it was just a coincidentally well-timed usual fluke. Or maybe reloading the nftables rules removed the stateful firewall state.)
< 1651408038 612192 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :The container is using systemd-nspawn for some magic, but the networking's pretty manual.
< 1651408068 392097 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Annoyingly the container is also missing convenience features like `dig`, `host` and `ping`, so I have to test with socat, which I never remember how to use.
< 1651408140 374812 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :`ip link` says <NO-CARRIER,BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP> and I don't remember if it used to have that NO-CARRIER in it before.
< 1651408148 653485 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Hmm, oh in addition to connection tracking, the host also has to has forwarding for IP enabled
< 1651408169 332583 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :On the host side it says <BROADCAST,MULTICAST> ... state DOWN ... which doesn't sound right either.
< 1651408205 832082 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Oh, I get it: they had regenerated an /etc/network/interfaces file as part of the migration, and that was missing the rules for the container's interface.
< 1651408219 91026 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :(As an aside, they had generated a pretty weird one.)
< 1651408234 278001 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :ah!
< 1651408244 931945 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :the former makes sense... the latter sounds weird :)
< 1651408293 669493 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Oh, *that* migration. So that happened, good to know.
< 1651408325 875075 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :The one they made had only an IPv4 address on `eth0`, and then it had a separate `eth0:1` address with the IPv6 address on it, and 127.0.0.2/32 configured as the IPv4 address of that other interface. I don't really know what's up with that.
< 1651408356 916472 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :huh
< 1651408368 82062 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi JOIN #esolangs HackEso :HackEso
< 1651408390 990756 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :`relcome HackEso 
< 1651408394 108145 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :​13HackEso: 04Welcome 07to 08the 09international 02hub 06for 13esoteric 04programming 07language 08design 09and 02deployment! 06For 13more 04information, 07check 08out 09our 02wiki: 06<https://esolangs.org/>. 13(For 04the 07other 08kind 09of 02esoterica, 06try 13#esoteric 04on 07EFnet 08or 09DALnet.)
< 1651408400 151485 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Restoring the old /etc/network/interfaces on the host and restarting the container seems to have worked.
< 1651408414 78388 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :cool
< 1651408453 188875 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Thanks fizzie! (I imagine I helped a little)
< 1651408498 26236 :tromp!~textual@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User
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< 1651408553 237967 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Now that it's back up, I should probably break it again by finally upgrading from Debian oldstable to stable. ;)
< 1651408556 168413 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Well, maybe a little later.
< 1651408570 910429 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :sounds fun
< 1651408622 441150 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(I have had surprisingly good experience with upgrading debian stable... but it's always nerve-wrecking)
< 1651408653 433237 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yeah, I don't think it usually breaks, was being a little facetious there.
< 1651408660 887609 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think officially Debian 10's security support ends in July 2022.
< 1651408708 45318 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Anyway, the 127.0.0.2/32 makes absolutely no sense to me either.
< 1651408723 580023 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :nor the split between eth0 and eth0:1
< 1651408787 804891 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :It still had the usual 127.0.0.1/8 on `lo`. The only hypothesis I have is, some automation of theirs used 127.0.0.2/32 as a placeholder/"dummy" IPv4 address so that eth0:1 would not have only an IPv6 address.
< 1651408884 693342 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :It also said "# Automatically generated by OnApp" on top, which appears to be some sort a "cloud platform" you can brand and resell.
< 1651409185 182762 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :a cursory google search suggests it's not OnApp's fault (I'd expect hits for the combination of "127.0.0.1" and "onapp" then)
< 1651409243 875471 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Bytemark had an in-house thing (initially called "BigV", then renamed "Bytemark Cloud") but I guess their new overlords have bought the infrastructure from elsewhere.
< 1651409934 618907 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Uh, I meant 127.0.0.*2*
> 1651411075 281420 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07YABFD14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=95471&oldid=95370 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+53) 10Add categories
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> 1651414040 139236 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07A?b.14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=95472&oldid=95460 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+59) 10Categorise, header levels
> 1651414098 515221 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07A?b.14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=95473&oldid=95472 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+18) 10Add category
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< 1651418368 637695 :Ginger!~Ginger@104.225.161.187 JOIN #esolangs * :[https://web.libera.chat] Ginger
< 1651418390 649001 :Ginger!~Ginger@104.225.161.187 PRIVMSG #esolangs :hello
< 1651418421 917256 :Ginger!~Ginger@104.225.161.187 PRIVMSG #esolangs :fizzie: Could you make https://esolangs.org/wiki/User:GingerBot part of the bot group?
< 1651418738 669909 :razetime!~quassel@117.254.35.47 JOIN #esolangs razetime :razetime
< 1651418803 87319 :Ginger!~Ginger@104.225.161.187 PRIVMSG #esolangs :hello razetime
< 1651418824 951588 :razetime!~quassel@117.254.35.47 PRIVMSG #esolangs :hi 
< 1651418830 558215 :razetime!~quassel@117.254.35.47 PRIVMSG #esolangs :strange to get pinged here
< 1651418849 835190 :Ginger!~Ginger@104.225.161.187 PRIVMSG #esolangs :eh
< 1651418889 889378 :Ginger!~Ginger@104.225.161.187 TOPIC #esolangs :Welcome to the definitive cult of esoteric programming language design, dry-cleaning, and DNA modification! |qq https://esolangs.org | logs: https://logs.esolangs.org/
< 1651418904 255496 :Ginger!~Ginger@104.225.161.187 TOPIC #esolangs :Welcome to the definitive cult of esoteric programming language design, dry-cleaning, and DNA modification! | https://esolangs.org | logs: https://logs.esolangs.org/
< 1651418914 961132 :Ginger!~Ginger@104.225.161.187 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I... should probably _not_ be able to do that
< 1651418931 807652 :razetime!~quassel@117.254.35.47 PRIVMSG #esolangs :hm yes, that looks like it should be operator-only.
< 1651418957 570743 :Ginger!~Ginger@104.225.161.187 TOPIC #esolangs :Welcome to the definitive cult of esoteric programming language design, wet-cleaning, and DNA modification! | https://esolangs.org | logs: https://logs.esolangs.org/
< 1651418963 410908 :Ginger!~Ginger@104.225.161.187 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I wonder if anyone will notice
< 1651418969 653531 :Ginger!~Ginger@104.225.161.187 PRIVMSG #esolangs :let's find out
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< 1651418989 359554 :razetime!~quassel@117.254.35.47 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i assume many have already noticed.
< 1651418998 587580 :Corbin!~Corbin@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Hail Eris, full of mischief.
< 1651419013 341809 :Ginger!~Ginger@104.225.161.187 PRIVMSG #esolangs ::/
< 1651419015 659041 :razetime!~quassel@117.254.35.47 PRIVMSG #esolangs :just asking, are you GingerIndustries from Code Golf StackExchange?
< 1651419036 13958 :Ginger!~Ginger@104.225.161.187 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Well, I'm just Ginger now
< 1651419037 766884 :Ginger!~Ginger@104.225.161.187 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but yes
< 1651419044 577653 :Ginger!~Ginger@104.225.161.187 PRIVMSG #esolangs :the one and only [citation needed]
< 1651419069 106876 :razetime!~quassel@117.254.35.47 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ah, make sense.
< 1651419080 228935 :Ginger!~Ginger@104.225.161.187 PRIVMSG #esolangs :okay, lemme just google how to do that
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< 1651419560 394032 :river!river@tilde.team/user/river TOPIC #esolangs :.
< 1651420003 508195 :Corbin!~Corbin@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Why?
< 1651422244 157371 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.242.196 JOIN #esolangs ais523 :(this is obviously not my real name)
< 1651422267 879783 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.242.196 TOPIC #esolangs :Welcome to the definitive cult of esoteric programming language design, dry-cleaning, and DNA modification! | https://esolangs.org | logs: https://logs.esolangs.org/
< 1651422284 340155 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.242.196 PRIVMSG #esolangs :some amount of topic drift is expected here, we reset it back to the original when it gets too offtopic
< 1651422308 69508 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.242.196 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but you shouldn't blank the topic, there's some information that's supposed to always stay there
< 1651422327 258228 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.242.196 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(part of it was required to comply with Freenode rules, but now that we're on Libera, I'm not sure whether the rules have changed)
< 1651422369 268087 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.242.196 PRIVMSG #esolangs :err, I should probably have turned my op powers on for that announcement, but it's too late now, just assume that came with a little op marker next to it
< 1651422420 840936 :Corbin!~Corbin@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Channels with public logs definitely should still have an indicator, yes.
< 1651422425 160492 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo JOIN #esolangs Sgeo :realname
< 1651422441 893473 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://libera.chat/policies/#public-logging
< 1651422449 783950 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.242.196 PRIVMSG #esolangs :re: bot flags, they shouldn't be given to users just because they're bots
< 1651422483 654654 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.242.196 PRIVMSG #esolangs :a bot flag gives a user extra powers: it removes some rate limits, lets the user hide edits from Recent Changes, and lets the user edit user talk pages without triggering the Orange Bar Of Doom
< 1651422515 846027 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.242.196 PRIVMSG #esolangs :all those powers are abusable, so it only makes sense to give them to an account which has an active need for at least one of them, and can explain why it needs it
< 1651422531 312479 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.242.196 PRIVMSG #esolangs :also admins have a hair trigger for blocking bots, because they can do a lot of damage in a very short space of time
< 1651422664 425544 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.242.196 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I used to be very active in bot approval discussions on Wikipedia – some bots don't need a flag to act, generally the only ones that do are the ones that make a huge number of very boring changes
< 1651422872 422734 :Corbin!~Corbin@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: This all sounds in line with what I remember about WP. Certainly there were times when my manual edit rate on WP exceeded the bot edit rate that Ginger proposes.
< 1651422886 833341 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I believe Ginger wants to automate something around the (joke) language lists (for which we have both categories and separate pages). I'm not sure whether we've discussed any details of that here.
< 1651422941 681370 :tromp!~textual@dhcp-077-249-230-040.chello.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User
< 1651422970 554564 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.242.196 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I'm actually wondering whether the language list acts as something of a filter – many of the boring languages that nobody cares about never get added there
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< 1651423020 749869 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.242.196 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it would be nice if we could make Esolang work for its original purpose, as an archive of programming languages no matter how non-notable or pointless
< 1651423031 276154 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.242.196 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but also have some way of discovering the more interesting/nontrivial languages
< 1651423033 600690 :Corbin!~Corbin@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I personally think it's rude to list my languages on the language lists; I don't presume that anybody particularly would want to find them by scrolling through a list of names.
< 1651423063 395444 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I'm somewhat worried that such a bot might end up fighting manual edits. I'd like to have some details on how it's supposed to work before it starts editing stuff...
< 1651423073 613602 :Corbin!~Corbin@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :But I also appreciate PythonshellDebugwindow's hard work, and they're clearly motivated to maintain the list and categories somewhat.
< 1651423086 951337 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.242.196 PRIVMSG #esolangs :my general policy about this sort of thing is "you don't have to add your page to the language list, but it's recommended because it helps people to find it"
< 1651423104 992962 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.242.196 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I don't think I have a policy about adding someone else's page
< 1651423203 484431 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.242.196 PRIVMSG #esolangs :in theory, there's no ownership of language pages on Esolang – anyone can update any page with additional details about the language, examples, etc.
< 1651423234 722591 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.242.196 PRIVMSG #esolangs :in practice, though, the language creator is usually the best or only source for knowing how it functions, and some of the languages are under active development, so it can be hard to write about someone else's language and even harder to overrule the author about it
< 1651423275 138200 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Hmm. Maybe I'll add something to https://esolangs.org/wiki/Esolang_talk:Community_portal#Suggestion:_Bot_to_auto-update_the_language_list tomorrow.
< 1651423463 885713 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.242.196 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think it's generally agreed to be preferable to have all languages in Category:Languages, but not necessarily to have them all on the language list?
< 1651423543 655992 :Corbin!~Corbin@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yeah. Not to be a deletionist, but I personally wouldn't maintain something like the language list, not when the categories already suffice.
< 1651423550 609498 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Sounds reasonable to me. I have no strong opinion either way... I basically don't use the language list at all.
< 1651423597 354832 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :And I have been wondering why we have both that page and the category... the latter is easier to get right...
< 1651423627 439245 :river!river@tilde.team/user/river PRIVMSG #esolangs :I have a strong opinion on it
< 1651423738 695261 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :the subcategories are far more valuable
< 1651423956 855720 :Corbin!~Corbin@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Yeah. I wish that I had the headspace and time to keep hacking on the hierarchies for languages by computational complexity, or other subcategorizations.
< 1651423989 382583 :Corbin!~Corbin@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I guess I could answer specific questions, or fulfill specific requests to hack on a page.
< 1651424072 364693 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.242.196 PRIVMSG #esolangs :river: in that case, letting us know what the strong opinion is could be helpful, we might agree with it!
< 1651424103 920353 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.242.196 PRIVMSG #esolangs :the computational class categories have been working surprisingly well – it might be worth adding an "other", but they cover the vast majority of esolangs between them
< 1651424135 663597 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.242.196 PRIVMSG #esolangs :generally speaking, the only esolangs that have a known compuational class that isn't FSM/PDA/LBA/TC/uncomputable were explicitly constructed to be that way
< 1651424152 407623 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.242.196 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(and "uncomputable" is a big range of classes, but lumping them all together makes sense)
< 1651424265 203438 :Corbin!~Corbin@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :For sure. And that's not a bad thing, either; some complexity classes are only identified *because* we have real-world systems or automata which address problems in the class.
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< 1651424396 531296 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.242.196 PRIVMSG #esolangs :there is some ambiguity in the categorisation, e.g. is the LBA category for languages that can be implemented by an LBA but not an FSM, or is it for LBA-complete languages?
< 1651424417 687224 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.242.196 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but I think sorting out the ambiguity might be a bad thing because many people who categorise languages don't know the distinction
< 1651424505 549385 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.242.196 PRIVMSG #esolangs :even as it is, languages with finite storage frequently get incorrectly marked as TC…
< 1651424538 726232 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-240.catv.fixed.vodafone.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://github.com/fis/fungot/blob/master/README.md "Requires: a Funge-98 interpreter with support for the STRN, FILE, FING, SOCK, SCKE, REXP, TOYS and SUBR fingerprints." => hehe, documented just in case someone wants to port it to a different befunge interpreter.
< 1651424538 918670 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::a PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: ( scheme48 was already seven years old at that point
< 1651424582 988012 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.242.196 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: befunge interpreters were a Big Deal in this channel at one point
< 1651424629 368654 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.242.196 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I remember the big drive to get all the major interprets to obey the spec, I think it lasted for weeks
< 1651424709 457214 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-240.catv.fixed.vodafone.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :"esolangs quit / <fizzie> At least the wiki's still up." => https://xkcd.com/349/
< 1651424799 784368 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.242.196 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh, that bot's down too?
< 1651424809 191864 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.242.196 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I'll need to remember to check the recent pages page on the wiki explicitly then
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< 1651424817 430627 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.242.196 PRIVMSG #esolangs :sometimes I just rely on the bot feed in IRC
< 1651424823 585028 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-240.catv.fixed.vodafone.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :"<fizzie> Annoyingly the container is also missing convenience features like `dig`, `host`" => the third one is nslookup by the way
< 1651424918 390397 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-240.catv.fixed.vodafone.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :"and then it had a separate `eth0:1` address with the IPv6 address on it, and 127.0.0.2/32 configured as the IPv4 address of that other interface." => maybe it doesn't have native ipv6 internet access, and that's either a local network ipv6 address or a transparent ipv6 through ipv4 address or something
< 1651424951 426202 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.242.196 PRIVMSG #esolangs :127.0.0.2 is a weird way to write the loopback address
< 1651424974 744001 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.242.196 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I'm not sure whether or not a computer can distinguish between different loopback addresses, normally there isn't much of a need for more than one of htem
< 1651424978 774656 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-240.catv.fixed.vodafone.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :"I should probably break it again by finally upgrading from  Debian oldstable to stable." => yeah, I've been meaning to do that for a while, upgrading from debian 10 to 11. at least now I have a recent full backup for it.
< 1651425020 371254 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-240.catv.fixed.vodafone.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :some things always break when I upgrade debian version, but it often unbreaks more than it breaks
< 1651425148 829827 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-240.catv.fixed.vodafone.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :"a cursory google search suggests it's not OnApp's fault" => on my work machine I occasionally used a certain VPN client software to connect to a remote network where we installed/maintained our product on that remote network, and that client software always adds a nonexistant ip address as DNS server, so while the VPN is connected you have to wait for a timeout for any DNS request to resolve.
< 1651425233 599397 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-240.catv.fixed.vodafone.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Ginger: I did notice the topic change. we deliberately let everyone to change the topic, at least as long as they don't abuse that privilage much. because of freenode policy we were required ot have the url for the channel logs there, and presumably that still applies on libera.
< 1651425240 408578 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-240.catv.fixed.vodafone.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :hmm, wet-cleaning
< 1651425260 547725 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.242.196 PRIVMSG #esolangs :fwiw, it'd surprise me if Ginger logreads
< 1651425273 152127 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.242.196 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but maybe next time Ginger is here we can link to the logs
< 1651425290 208983 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-240.catv.fixed.vodafone.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :in theory ChanServ can enforce a topic suffix that users can't change
< 1651425292 871810 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-240.catv.fixed.vodafone.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :or maybe just a prefix
< 1651425366 27010 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-240.catv.fixed.vodafone.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :"some bots don't need a flag to act" => yes, but I think Ginger wasn't asking for a bot flag either, just approval
< 1651425398 402284 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.242.196 PRIVMSG #esolangs :<Ginger> fizzie: Could you make https://esolangs.org/wiki/User:GingerBot part of the bot group?
< 1651425404 598373 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-240.catv.fixed.vodafone.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :"it'd surprise me if Ginger logreads" => they were trying to automatedly fix stuff on the wiki. that's precisely the kind of user who might logread
< 1651425407 299153 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.242.196 PRIVMSG #esolangs :was a specific ask for a flag, prior to approval
< 1651425418 769252 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-240.catv.fixed.vodafone.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :ah, I missed that request then, ok
< 1651425452 904646 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-240.catv.fixed.vodafone.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :"I'm actually wondering whether the language list acts as something of a filter – many of the boring languages that nobody cares about never get added there" => hmm
< 1651425458 592999 :Corbin!~Corbin@2604:a880:4:1d0::4d6:d000 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Normally I'd be wary, but it seems like they're well-known in a sister community, and if the Stack Exchange sites can share reputation then so can we.
< 1651425468 476176 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-240.catv.fixed.vodafone.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :that might be a good idea
< 1651425538 418104 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.242.196 PRIVMSG #esolangs :well, Code Golf Stack Exchange has had to put very sharp restrictions on bots, at least in chat, because its userbase's enthusiasm for them often exceeds the bots' actual utility
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< 1651425545 859721 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-240.catv.fixed.vodafone.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :"the language creator is usually the best or only source" => most of the pages I add are stub link-only or short pages about languages that such other people who aren't on the wiki create
< 1651425562 439192 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.242.196 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: yes, but that's unusual
< 1651425567 446130 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-240.catv.fixed.vodafone.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :"preferable to have all languages in Category:Languages, but not necessarily to have them all on the language list?" => that can be ok, yes
< 1651425576 858869 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.242.196 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I do that sometimes as well, but I've added more of my own languages
< 1651425582 474274 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-240.catv.fixed.vodafone.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :then I might add more pages to the category when I see them
< 1651425588 606425 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-240.catv.fixed.vodafone.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :that can be partly automated too probably
< 1651425615 767866 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.242.196 PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://esolangs.org/wiki/Special:UncategorizedPages exists
< 1651425625 122044 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.242.196 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but, I don't think you can automate knowing how those pages are supposed to be categorized
< 1651425666 653258 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.242.196 PRIVMSG #esolangs :some of them are there because they're hard to categorize
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< 1651425722 78467 :ais523!~ais523@213.205.242.196 PRIVMSG #esolangs :there, I categorized one of htem
< 1651425747 468429 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-240.catv.fixed.vodafone.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :"ambiguity ... is the LBA category for" => the category page specifically says "computational complexity equivalent to a Linear bounded automaton" hmm wait, you're right, the "a" is ambiguous there. 
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< 1651425820 702641 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-240.catv.fixed.vodafone.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I had a weak suspicion that Amycus with a certain set of rules dropped was of an intermediate complexity class, but I never really had a proof
< 1651425905 117298 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-240.catv.fixed.vodafone.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: yes, that's half of the partly automation; the other half would be to find pages that have one of the subcategories but not Languages 
< 1651425940 211095 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-240.catv.fixed.vodafone.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :esolangs was down for a short time only, but yes, check RecentChanges
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< 1651433028 860712 :Guest98!~Guest98@148-252-96.22.3p.ntebredband.no PRIVMSG #esolangs :How common is it to turn joke languages into usable languages? Currently pondering whether I should even make the original joke language a subset or not, since I'm turning an output-only joke language into a high-level OOP usable joke language.
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< 1651433526 683752 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Do any cards in Magic: the Gathering cause objects to enter the battlefield initially phased out?
< 1651433550 912751 :Guest98!~Guest98@148-252-96.22.3p.ntebredband.no PRIVMSG #esolangs :Are you making an MtG esolang?
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< 1651443775 246915 :kee!~wizzwizz4@user/wizzwizz4 PRIVMSG #esolangs :MtG is already an esolang. https://arxiv.org/abs/1904.09828
> 1651444033 432661 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Bird14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=95478 5* 03Masalt 5* (+68) 10Created page with "{{stub}}  Fish is a language invented by User:Masalt, using Python 3"
< 1651444051 230287 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :Can a different kind of esolang be made with a custom set of Magic: the Gathering cards, that uses a significantly different construction for computation but is also suitable for puzzles and for playing a game, too?
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< 1651444638 786072 :kee!~wizzwizz4@user/wizzwizz4 PRIVMSG #esolangs :zzo38: If you pick a subset of cards such that a different set of constraints can force the players to execute a computation, yes.
< 1651444663 311803 :kee!~wizzwizz4@user/wizzwizz4 PRIVMSG #esolangs :You have to remove their ability to exit the states where computation can occur.
< 1651444782 306536 :sknebel!~quassel@v22016013254630973.happysrv.de PRIVMSG #esolangs :I guess maybe a variant could be where optimal play continues the computation
< 1651444893 204021 :zzo38!~zzo38@host-24-207-14-22.public.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esolangs :I mean making up custom cards, although it could lead to simpler situations where every valid choice works, but still is suitable puzzles/games that different choices are significant, too.
< 1651444921 58532 :kee!~wizzwizz4@user/wizzwizz4 PRIVMSG #esolangs :sknebel: That kind of thing is tricky, unless the player who defects has trivially lost.
< 1651444937 622364 :kee!~wizzwizz4@user/wizzwizz4 PRIVMSG #esolangs :"Optimal play" has a habit of not being what us squishy humans think it is.
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< 1651446155 735654 :b_jonas!~x@catv-176-63-3-240.catv.fixed.vodafone.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :fungot, tell us the story of how you became enlightened
< 1651446155 931758 :fungot!~fungot@2a01:4b00:82bb:1341::a PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: i'm on no time schedule, just want to know
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