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< 1665237647 311870 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-13-99.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :the brilliant part about "authorization" and "authentication" is that "authorization" derives from the word "author", but it's "authentication" that's concerned with determining who the author is. etymology often doesn't make sense. and in this case it's not even entirely the fault of English, only partially.
< 1665237676 860441 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-13-99.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :basically "author" had multiple meanings even in latin, and english just chose the one that results in this unfortunate situation
< 1665237835 59903 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :there's also "authority" in the mix which is closer to "authorization"
< 1665237978 818819 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-13-99.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :heh
< 1665238981 835851 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-13-99.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :whereas "authorization" derives from the greek word "auto", which means self, and so is closer to authentication
< 1665238995 458741 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-13-99.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :so they're like swapped
< 1665239036 143760 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-13-99.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :obviously at this point it would be a bad idea to just swap the meanings back, rather if we don't like the etymology we should just replace them with unrelated words
< 1665239118 472154 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I have bigger gripes.
< 1665239134 55102 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :No. 1 is "inflamable". No. 2 are the pronunciations of "finite" and "infinite".
< 1665239161 410117 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Or inflammable. That double-m is also getting me a lot.
< 1665239989 157499 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-13-99.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: how about the pronunciation of "sign" and "signal", or of "cycle" and "bicycle"? 
< 1665240031 825611 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-13-99.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :there are probably word choices that we could popularize instead of authentication and authorization that have just as many problems
< 1665240039 278945 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I don't mind those as much, they tend to appear in different contexts.
< 1665240110 957441 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-13-99.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :different context? cycle and bicycle mean literally the same vehicle
< 1665240153 900491 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I don't call the vehicle that. (Though there is "cycling")
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ACTION shrugs

< 1665240172 849429 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :cycles are for graphs ;)
< 1665240187 130123 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-13-99.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :do you call it bike, which many people use for motorbikes? I approve of that, it's nicely ambiguous
< 1665240259 771859 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-13-99.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :also what do you call the verb to ride on such a vehicle? cycle, bicycle, bike, or just ride?
< 1665240300 696035 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-13-99.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :or pedal perhaps, which is derived from a word that means foot and is related to pedestrian, so basically means to walk on foot
< 1665240330 953378 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :"Peddle".
< 1665240361 435288 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Don't mind me, I'm just peddling my bicloid.
< 1665240443 168214 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-13-99.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I guess you could call the vehicle velo, short for velocipède, which must means fast walking on foot or running based on its etymology
< 1665240462 958113 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-13-99.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :er, vélo and vélocipède presumably
< 1665240604 599311 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-13-99.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :heck, why not call it fiets, which has an unclear etymology but sounds like the english word feets, so also clearly means walking on foot
< 1665240803 444915 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-13-99.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :heck, just call it "kerékpár", the less often used formal word for a bicycle in Hungarian, which means pair of wheels, and as such sounds like it's a mirror translation for bicycle invented by Kazinczy, although I don't think it actually is because bicycles were rare back then
< 1665240933 534757 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-13-99.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :or call it the somewhat less obvious but still descriptive pejorative word "drótszamár"
< 1665240960 620232 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: I call it a bike or a bicycle, depeding.
< 1665240965 179624 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :+n
< 1665241053 980783 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-13-99.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: and the verb>
< 1665241068 211923 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-13-99.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :s/>/?
< 1665241090 425539 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Let's go with riding :P
< 1665241109 450141 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Just to sidestep the discussion. (See also above where I already admitted that the verb is problemantic.)
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< 1665259438 510740 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-13-99.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I would like to suggest "engedélyezés" as the confusing alternative for "authorization". It means something close enough, but it comes from "enged" which means permit, and while it has an unclear etymology, you could suspect that it is related to "én" or "engem", and thus should mean authentication rather than authorization.
< 1665259457 203987 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-13-99.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :but I don't know of a good replacement for "authentication" that would be similarly confusing etymologically
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< 1665260462 119635 :sprout!~quassel@2a02-a467-ccd6-1-3904-fc5c-14a0-7a72.fixed6.kpn.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :what about 'blessing'?
< 1665260467 66713 :sprout!~quassel@2a02-a467-ccd6-1-3904-fc5c-14a0-7a72.fixed6.kpn.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :neat and short!
< 1665260484 142447 :sprout!~quassel@2a02-a467-ccd6-1-3904-fc5c-14a0-7a72.fixed6.kpn.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :the CPU blessed you
< 1665260490 550486 :sprout!~quassel@2a02-a467-ccd6-1-3904-fc5c-14a0-7a72.fixed6.kpn.net PRIVMSG #esolangs :I could need that
< 1665260575 845948 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-13-99.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :no no no. we need long names, not short easy to understand ones.
< 1665260614 339358 :b_jonas!~x@adsl-89-134-13-99.monradsl.monornet.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :it's 6 syllable words that we're potentially replacing
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