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> 1722630183 755927 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 delete10 02 5* 03Ais523 5*  10deleted "[[02Esolang:Sandbox/Archive 110]]": a) archiving a page for test edits is inherently useless; b) clearly an attempt to circumvent a block
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< 1722630327 351138 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 JOIN #esolangs ais523 :(this is obviously not my real name)
< 1722630361 58386 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :re: the "sandbox wars" – I have realised, that under the default principle of "follow Wikipedia's rules except when ours are explicitly different", I should be asking other administrators to do sandbox-related blocks rather than doing them myself
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< 1722630389 66557 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :are people OK to let me continue doing this, and/or to take over the blocks themself to make it clear that it isn't just one admin's opinion?
< 1722630401 257854 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I am still amazed that something this ridiculous has lead to this much controversy
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< 1722630700 997195 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :asking other moderators works better on bigger wikis which have more moderators that are active
< 1722630720 952797 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Was going to say. I think the problem with that is, all us other nominal admins are useless wretches who never manage to get anything done.
< 1722630804 381482 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :But I'm happy to at least confirm that I agree with your interpretation of the Sandbox page's intended purpose, and wish people would just stop messing with it. (They're of course welcome to continue their preservation work outside the wiki. Not that I really understand it fully.)
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< 1722631025 735295 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yes – although we probably can't interfere with what they're doing offwiki, I think it wouldn't make sense to do so even if we could
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< 1722631212 48544 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :can we book an arena, buy some weapons, and get them to fight to death? only it's the 21st century so we have to put cameras to their forehead for a nice first person view shots
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> 1722631307 661591 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Template:Reflist14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=134581 5* 03Ais523 5* (+14) 10a few people have attempted to use this template, presumably in an analogous manner to the template with the same name at Wikipedia: create a template that does the same thing (but with code that's written from scratch and is much simpler)
< 1722631430 156263 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :By the way, do we know if these are Discord people? And/or, is there any cross-pollination between the IRC channel and the (two?) Discord communities? 
< 1722631450 930117 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :I seem to have gotten an impression that the two had some sort of a spat.
< 1722631469 548890 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :...There are two Discord communities?
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< 1722631490 282873 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :According to https://esolangs.org/wiki/Esolang:Community_portal there are.
< 1722631491 348389 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :I most esolang here, but everything else I'm mostly on Discord. I've talked on one of the Discords a bit lately
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< 1722631530 669118 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :there used to be two, with some sort of dispute about which one was "official" / new users should go to (presumably they both wanted it), but I don't know what happened after that
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< 1722631599 862659 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it would be helpful if one or more of the regulars here was also a regular in the Discord community/communities, so that we could have some idea of what was going on over there
< 1722631618 699759 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Without an account, Discord apparently shows you user counts; there's 50 users "online" on one, and 218 on the other, which doesn't sound like a definite victory one way or another.
< 1722631643 171507 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :I don't know if the sandbox thing has anything to do with either Discord group, it just sounds like the sort of thing that could.
< 1722631691 553517 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :by comparison, there are 80 nicknames currently in this channel, which I suspect might be analogous to the Discord user counts
< 1722631702 375993 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i.e. mostly idlers, but people who would notice if you pinged them, plus the occasional bot
< 1722631738 665227 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I get the impression that many of the people messing with the sandbox know each other *somehow* offwiki, e.g. they are doing things with each others' permission but the permission wasn't sought onwiki
< 1722631846 158896 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :(Discord also shows "member" counts, 152 and 768 respectively, but I don't know if that's more like "has once been there and still has a Discord account and hasn't taken a positive step to disassociate themselves" or something else.)
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< 1722632783 985419 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think I joined these Discord guilds, or at least one of them, though I don't really use them for anything and they'll be among the first I leave when I leave the 200 guild limit
< 1722632812 783715 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I'm on only one of them I think
< 1722632883 213222 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ooh: apparently tag systems are TC with only two symbols: https://arxiv.org/pdf/1312.6700
< 1722632904 147461 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :both of their logos is a trilime, I'm on the one whose logo is a three-colored trilime, the other's logo is a rainbow trilime
< 1722632972 564969 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :even better, one of the symbols appears to expand to itself – which may make this good for creating other small universal constructions
< 1722633053 215373 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :we should make a fourth version of the trilime (besides these two and the wiki logo) and call it the official logo of this channel
< 1722633065 513022 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :`? logo
< 1722633066 864807 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :`logo
< 1722633068 862457 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :logo? ¯\(°​_o)/¯
< 1722633068 892692 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :logo? No such file or directory
< 1722633174 961103 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I don't think IRC channels normally have logos
< 1722633200 406966 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :I tried to make one that was three rectangles, somewhat similarly positioned, with colors taken from the original, but it didn't really look good.
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< 1722633257 636127 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :I guess the IRC channel's logo could be used as the favicon of logs.esolangs.org, now it's just the regular trilime.
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< 1722633299 531646 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I should try to photograph three slices of a lemon 
< 1722633314 700292 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :the history of the trilime is great
< 1722633326 280342 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :IIRC it was originally a placeholder image, but it fit so well we decided to keep it
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< 1722633338 320647 :drwizard!~drwizard@user/drwizard PRIVMSG #esolangs :wow! this channel is so much bigger than #cs
< 1722633378 904580 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :is that why Thue is the featured language forever? it "fits so well"?
< 1722633401 558964 :drwizard!~drwizard@user/drwizard PRIVMSG #esolangs :where is Thue the featured language?
< 1722633419 787572 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :`welcome drwizard
< 1722633421 557796 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :drwizard: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on EFnet or DALnet.)
< 1722633427 338468 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :^ on that wiki
< 1722633464 156041 :drwizard!~drwizard@user/drwizard PRIVMSG #esolangs :ok
< 1722633470 987281 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :no, Thue is mostly just the featured language because it takes a lot of effort to get a page up to a high enough level of quality to feature, and because the featured language process ends up getting very biased if I try to do the whole thing by myself
< 1722633472 817671 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :hi drwizard, anyway
< 1722633480 734231 :drwizard!~drwizard@user/drwizard PRIVMSG #esolangs :hi ais523
< 1722633497 869495 :drwizard!~drwizard@user/drwizard PRIVMSG #esolangs :what does the number 523 mean? what's its significance?
< 1722633511 685848 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it was originally randomly selected
< 1722633516 5748 :drwizard!~drwizard@user/drwizard PRIVMSG #esolangs :cool
< 1722633520 313554 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(by a computer, not by me)
< 1722633527 188269 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :followers of Discordianism apparently find this hilarious
< 1722633531 592997 :drwizard!~drwizard@user/drwizard PRIVMSG #esolangs :so is this the real place to discuss computer science?
< 1722633544 906647 :drwizard!~drwizard@user/drwizard PRIVMSG #esolangs :because otherwise #cs is almost dead
< 1722633557 105559 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :in a way – this place discusses esoteric programming languages, but there is something of an overlap with computer science
< 1722633574 836581 :fizzie!irc@selene.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :It's also... often not very lively here either.
< 1722633581 516420 :drwizard!~drwizard@user/drwizard PRIVMSG #esolangs :and #bitwise is active but they seem to focus more on reading complete books
< 1722633582 113722 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :there is a bias towards dicussing things that aren't practically useful here; we generally assume that there are other places doing the useful things, but maybe there aren't?
< 1722633603 253536 :drwizard!~drwizard@user/drwizard PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: interesting. so then I'll ask my CS questions here when I have them. hope that's fine.
< 1722633677 75178 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think CS might be technically offtopic, but a) conversation here doesn't always stay ontopic and b) esolangs run into random areas of CS often enough that it is hard to tell for sure that a CS question is offtopic
< 1722633698 38821 :drwizard!~drwizard@user/drwizard PRIVMSG #esolangs :ok
< 1722633724 675479 :drwizard!~drwizard@user/drwizard PRIVMSG #esolangs :then I'll stick to #bitwise for practical matters and ask questions about more theoretical stuff here
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< 1722633759 991498 :drwizard!~drwizard@user/drwizard PRIVMSG #esolangs :I'm guessing things theory of computation, complexity classes, decidability, etc. would be ok here?
< 1722633765 36741 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think #esoteric is currently in the state of "it can be idle for ages at a time, but if two people start having a conversation then often others join in"
< 1722633787 266462 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :we discuss computational class more often that complexity class, but complexity class does come up from time to time
< 1722633817 287318 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :theory of computation and decidability are very commonly discussed, although the things we apply them to are often pretty weird
< 1722633846 418620 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :discussing computational class vs complexity class... which one does this month's ultra-secret password belong to?
< 1722633849 961308 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :often, when a low-level esolang is designed, one of the most obvious questions is "is this Turing-copmlete"
< 1722633876 712986 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: well, the distinciton is that complexity class is based around how long a computation takes, whereas computational class is based around whether you can do it at all
< 1722633924 567803 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :the whole busy beaver project is based around taking an uncomputable function and trying to compute as much of it as we can – we know that eventually we will get stuck, but don't know where or why
< 1722633946 840700 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :or, well, we know why in general terms, but not what the specific issue will be
< 1722634159 571012 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :sure but that description doesn't apply to complexity classes only because we can't prove that we'll get stuck. if someone guaranteed that some computational problem (like breaking a cryptographical primitive) takes exponential time in its size, we'd still try to solve as much of it as we can and see how big sizes we can still wolve
< 1722634184 267828 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :s/wolve/solve/
< 1722634208 382906 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :there are two parts to the busy beaver problem, really: which machines halt, and how long does the slowest take to halt?
< 1722634225 547607 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and the former feels like more of a computational class problem, whereas the latter is complexity; but the former is probably more interesting
< 1722634319 974667 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :btw somehow the youtube content miners found out about the "who can name a bigger number" thing and there's suddenly like half a dozen videos out about it. I haven't try to watch them yet because when a topic is so trendy most of the videos would just make me despair, and I already know where to look for good articles on that topic.
< 1722634333 637998 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :the weird part is that one of the videos is by CodeParade
< 1722634362 590759 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(haven't watched that one either yet)
< 1722634381 711720 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I know this sometimes happens for some topic, when everyone tries to be the first to cover the same topic 
< 1722634384 745750 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but it's still weird
< 1722634472 92034 :drwizard!~drwizard@user/drwizard PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: what's the significance of codeparade? is that a popular name or personality?
< 1722634532 774111 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think "in Magic: the Gathering, the furthest distance you can send the opponent's life total below zero, on turn 1, with a Vintage-legal 60-card deck that is incapable of sending it an arbitrarily far distance" is likely to win most biggest-number competitions that don't use a similar construction
< 1722634564 715873 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :people have constructed Ackermann-like functions with the Busy Beaver function as part of it, in that
< 1722634798 140037 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: that ... might run into a problem where the M:tG rules aren't clear enough
< 1722634826 647666 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and even besides that I think people have named numbers bigger than that, but of course I can't prove this
< 1722634864 112469 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :drwizard: that I have heard of his youtube channel before these videos appeared
< 1722634884 660012 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: that is possible, I guess
< 1722634902 388814 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :there is the whole "is it possible to use Shaharazad as a halting oracle?" thing, but Wizards solved the problem by banning it from Vintage
< 1722634908 970787 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ackermann-like functions with the busy beaver function isn't something that didn't occur to the big number people before M:tG
< 1722634951 303258 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :"Wizards solved the problem by banning it from Vintage" => uh... 
< 1722634962 52306 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but also
< 1722634986 779969 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :haven't people already used the M:tG rules about infinite loops as a halting oracle?
< 1722634994 395737 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :without Shahrazad
< 1722635004 830616 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :possibly but I think the consensus among judges I've asked is that they don't work like that
< 1722635018 806295 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :in that a loop of actions which never repeats may not be a draw
< 1722635046 454098 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :the purpose of Shahrazad would be to replace the draw with something that allows the game to continue, so that a "doesn't halt" result wouldn't immediately cause a halt
< 1722635058 579409 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :well it can't be just any actions, you have to at least give the players no choice to break the loop
< 1722635082 622374 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but yeah, it's possible that the rules don't allow it
< 1722635113 671122 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :in any case, none of that should affect how large a number you can name using a modified version of M:tG
< 1722635152 667651 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :as long as the rules for the modified version are clear enough
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< 1722635617 699559 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I'm also not sure if that M:tG number can even reasonably be made well-defined
< 1722635648 350901 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but I'm very much not an expert on the large number thing, I mostly ignored it
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