-Cable coverings. No, no, no. No, no, no. No, no, no. Archive not applicable to hobbits The Hobbit. You must lock the page. Kabul and Work No, no, no. Storage 
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> 1724833853 415594 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:RNDM14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=137019 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+128) 10Created page with "wtf is this. i cant understand at all... ~~~~"
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> 1724834412 991722 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Joke language list14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137021&oldid=135557 5* 03None1 5* (+68) 10/* Horribly translated variants */
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> 1724838044 880821 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07PoeticFuck14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=137026 5* 03None1 5* (+1587) 10Created page with "{{lang|a=User:None1|i=[[brainfuck]] and [[Poetic]]|f=made to represent [[Poetic]] in a brainfuck-like way}}  ==Instructions== {| class="wikitable" ! PoeticFuck !! Poetic Digit equivalent !! Meaning |- | ; || 0 || End program execution here. |- | [ || 1 || If the curren
> 1724838290 452174 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Poetic/Interpreter14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=137027 5* 03None1 5* (+2118) 10Created page with "This is a: * [[Poetic]] interpreter * [[PoeticFuck]] interpreter * [[Poetic]] to [[PoeticFuck]] translator by [[User:None1]] in [[Python]]. 
 import sys from random import randint def p2pf(code): # Translates PoeticFuck to Poetic     res=''     while code: 
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< 1724840854 73349 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs : although... you might actually want to disallow declaring the scoped constant value as mut in the rules, because if it were mut then you could just change the base within the lifetime of the scope, and then the functions that deal with those SparseBigInt couldn't rely on it being constant ← right – that would mean the wrong thing semantically, and most of these types want to rely on the fact that it's constant
< 1724840861 899897 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :a scoped constant with interior mutability should work for that case
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< 1724844490 178537 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :so as it turns out, in stable rust for a nullary struct/variant constructor, you can already use an empty pair of braces after the name of the constructor, either in an expression or a pattern. this is nice, and may be a better idea than the empty parenthesis that I recommended.
< 1724844490 673650 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :"https://play.rust-lang.org/?version=stable&mode=debug&edition=2021&gist=4d0f6fad13fb5ef7afcaa0fe71e6b07d" is an example, "https://github.com/llogiq/rfcs/blob/alloca/text/0218-empty-struct-with-braces.md" is the relevant RFC
< 1724844532 707782 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :you can use that to disambiguate a pattern to show that something is a constructor rather than a new binding
< 1724844721 577184 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :and you can in fact also use the @ mark to disambiguate for a newly bound name. this doesn't let you shadow an existing constructor, but it does give a compile error, which is enough. https://play.rust-lang.org/?version=stable&mode=debug&edition=2021&gist=6c88ffffed647ecc2a23f70df3441adf
> 1724844942 971583 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07()()()14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137039&oldid=137025 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (-55) 10Blanked the page
< 1724845198 214287 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :it seems you can't shadow an existing constructor even if it's from a wildcard import, whether it's a wildcard from a mod (importing a nullary struct) or a wildcard from an enum (to import all its variant constructors)
< 1724845306 398053 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: I'm not surprsied that Rust does that with {}, but I am surprised that there was an RFC specifically for the one feature
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> 1724845995 874757 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:4ME14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=137040 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+107) 10Created page with "why is dis a stub?? ~~~~"
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< 1724847164 962586 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I'm just embarrassed that I didn't know that this worked. I suggested the empty parenthesis, which is not allowed, and should have realized that empty braces work instead.
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< 1724850948 427302 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :in general I am not a huge fan of Rust's syntax
< 1724851016 383268 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it has a huge number of elisions, auto-derefs, etc. in order to make it look nicer, but that makes it harder to work out what a program is doing – it would be better if it were clearer in the first place
< 1724851080 585926 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I also don't like the way that trait methods are in the same namespace, even if they belong to different traits – that can cause collisions if a trait adds a new method, makes it hard to tell which trait you're using a method of, and the syntax to disambiguate is ugly (and frequently used in the sort of code I write)
< 1724851116 766273 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it would be nice to be able to say object.Trait::method(args) rather then ::method(trait, args)
< 1724851135 979576 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and to be to able to import individual trait methods, rather than needing to do the equivalent of a wildcard import
> 1724851336 521468 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Microwave14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137050&oldid=130454 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (-3) 10/* Looping Through Numbers 1-10 */
< 1724851368 986608 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :there are some parts of Rust syntax that I don't like either, but on the plus side it looks like they are now capable of using editions to introduce broken syntax changes in a way that you can compile crates with different editions together, and most of the time even use a macro written for an older edition in newer edition, kind of like every
< 1724851369 498444 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :token were tagged with the edition it's written in and the grammar supporting mixing tokens from different editions.
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< 1724851427 579236 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :that means the syntax can be improved in future versions, or even forked so you have multiple syntaxes living in parallel and having access to Rust's extra features
> 1724851456 539015 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Microwave14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137054&oldid=137053 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+0) 10/* Fibonacci */
< 1724851503 70156 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :because of this flexibility I'm more willing to invest into Rust despite some of the drawbacks of the syntax
< 1724851680 548461 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: is `::method(trait, args)` a typo for `::method(object, args)`, and can't you just write `Trait::method(object, args)` most of the time if the typechecker can determine ObjectType?
< 1724851885 150445 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yes, and possibly yes
< 1724851896 880569 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I have very weird trait disambiguation problems
< 1724852070 979491 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I guess that if the object conforms to the same trait twice in two different ways, you could still probably write Trait::::method(object, args)?
< 1724852108 38808 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(it probably says something about me that I even know that syntax exists)
< 1724852116 570062 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :two-ended turbofish?
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< 1724853937 551852 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I believe rust just doesn't allow an object to conform to the same trait twice (as in with two different impl blocks), and the rules for where you can put impl blocks imply the compiler will always detect when such an error could happen between any two impls, even if you never try to use a type with a trait where this would come up. If you do want
< 1724853938 57398 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :something like that then you usually have to wrap your object in a newtype and let one of the impl match that, eg. this is what you do when you have two orderings for a structure, you impl Ord for it as one of the orderings, and impl Ord for a newtype wrapper for the other ordering.
< 1724854111 833409 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Something like this though not quite the same actually came up in my polyform program: eventually I need two different orderings for the polyforms, a simple one that I use internally to be able to filter out equal polyforms and leave only unique ones, and a second one that determines the order of the lists of smaller polyforms that I emit. I
< 1724854112 333425 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :haven't yet implemented the latter, and I'm not sure what the best order is, but I will eventually implement it.
> 1724854855 762806 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Anything14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137060&oldid=137059 5* 03Unname4798 5* (-1040) 10clear tests
< 1724855348 501931 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh wait, do you mean you have a trait with extra generic parameters, like i32::from(0i8) and i32::from(0u8)? I think you would disambig those as >::from(0i8) and >::from(0u8)
< 1724855453 27350 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yes, same trait but different generics
< 1724855464 361425 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :but I guess you could also write { let r: i32 = From::::from(0i8); r }, or std::convert::identity::(From::::from(0i8), or 0i32 + From::::from(0i8)
< 1724855488 639350 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :today I tried writing a trait that the same type could conform to multiple times with different *lifetime* generics, it didn't go very well
< 1724855501 288776 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :you need the i32 type somewhere because it would be ambiguous
< 1724855523 414707 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I'm not even sure the addition is enough
< 1724855524 926599 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs : Something like this though not quite the same actually came up in my polyform program: eventually I need two different orderings for the polyforms, a simple one that I use internally to be able to filter out equal polyforms and leave only unique ones, and a second one that determines the order of the lists of smaller polyforms that I emit. ← in general Rust is bad at handling that sort of "I want to implement a standard trait in two different 
< 1724855526 359706 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ways"
< 1724855552 966376 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :newtype wrwappers often don't work because you need to take references, but the references need to be both outside and inside the wrapper
< 1724855567 398820 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :there are a couple of potential ways to fix this, but both would need new language features I think
< 1724855596 605838 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I have something like four blog posts I want to write about improvements to Rust, but that one is far back in the pipeline because I haven't figured out the details yet
< 1724855643 929072 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(being able to safely transmute &/&mut T into &/&mut Wrapper(T) where Wrapper is #[repr(transparent)] and has exactly one field, which is public, would help, though – and I *think* it would be sound to implement but am not completely sure)
< 1724855808 895161 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I don't understand, what do you mean by "the references need to be both outside and inside the warpper"?
< 1724855866 748669 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :ah, you want to be able to fmap a reference or slice or vector through the newtype wrapper or its inverse
< 1724855918 253345 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :right – generic APIs tend to put the references in the wrong place
< 1724855958 923583 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :At the very least that should be allowed only if you have access to the name of that one field from the scope where you do the conversion
< 1724856010 225426 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :because the field could be private if a mod wants to ensure that the newtype always satisfies an invariant, or if it doesn't want you to access the field
< 1724856031 180473 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yes, I mentioned public field for a reason
< 1724856049 816594 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I see
< 1724856052 726656 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it's clearly unsafe if the field isn't public and belongs to someone else
< 1724856073 805765 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(I am not sure if it's unsafe if the field isn't public but you can access it anyway – probably not?)
< 1724856078 317145 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :well I'm not sure if this should be allowed or not
< 1724856124 833633 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :IIRC there's some sort of "safe transmute project" but I'm not sure if they care about this, or if it's more about the "reinterpret an &[u8] as an object" sort of transmute
< 1724856308 815283 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :especially transmuting a mut reference this way makes me a bit uneasy. Rust does allow transmuting for one-element arrays and slices, but slices are special so that doesn't mean this should be allowed for other newtypes
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< 1724856662 322867 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :honestly I'm kind of surprised that rust traits can have generic type parameters and associated type parameters but not arbitrary fundeps between Self and the generic type parameters (yet).
< 1724856683 934803 :wib_jonas!~wib_jonas@business-37-191-60-209.business.broadband.hu PRIVMSG #esolangs :but maybe it would just be harder to implement in the typechecker
< 1724857020 251110 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :afk for a while
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> 1724861694 220233 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07A Question of Protocol14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137070&oldid=137069 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+0) 10/* example */
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> 1724862437 710156 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[0740114]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137076&oldid=136729 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+127) 10Categories
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> 1724870644 652321 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:4ME14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137080&oldid=137079 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+120) 10
> 1724870787 16521 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Yayimhere14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137081&oldid=136960 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+58) 10
> 1724871736 215913 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Larry14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137082&oldid=136973 5* 03ArsenicCatnip 5* (+1379) 10added a paste section. Changed a word in the copy section for clarity.
> 1724873097 534426 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Larry14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137083&oldid=137082 5* 03ArsenicCatnip 5* (+1472) 10added a peripheral section, and moved it above each of the instruction descriptions
> 1724873208 898179 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/move14]]4 move10 02 5* 03Ractangle 5*  10moved [[02Waretel BASIC10]] to [[Yayimhere like esolang]]
> 1724873217 508637 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/move14]]4 move10 02 5* 03Ractangle 5*  10moved [[02Yayimhere like esolang10]] to [[Yayimhere-like esolang]]
> 1724873404 515621 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Yayimhere-like esolang14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137088&oldid=137086 5* 03Ractangle 5* (-678) 10
> 1724873658 157618 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Yayimhere-like esolang14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137089&oldid=137088 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+49) 10
> 1724873742 669224 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Yayimhere-like esolang14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137090&oldid=137089 5* 03Ractangle 5* (-8) 10
> 1724873887 811671 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Zzo38/Untitled 514]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=137091 5* 03Zzo38 5* (+2628) 10Created page with "The program essentially consists of a set of rules and an input. Each rule has a "old" part, a "new" part, and a "add" part. Each of these parts, and the input, consists of a sequence of characters.  == Rules ==  The set of rules (after all implied rules are
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> 1724874812 948611 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Yayimhere-like esolang14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137094&oldid=137093 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+50) 10/* stack management */
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> 1724875272 542896 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Yayimhere-like esolang14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137096&oldid=137095 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+56) 10/* stack management */
> 1724876031 947331 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Larry14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137097&oldid=137083 5* 03ArsenicCatnip 5* (+3244) 10Added a cut section.
> 1724876974 90634 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/upload14]]4 revert10 02 5* 03Tommyaweosme 5*  10uploaded a new version of "[[02File:Tommy aweosme.png10]]": uniform background just makes this whole thing pointless
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> 1724877939 740432 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Yayimhere-like esolang14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137101&oldid=137100 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+1) 10/* syntax */
> 1724877944 871812 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Tommyaweosme unary14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=137102 5* 03Tommyaweosme 5* (+208) 10Created page with "{{lowercase}}tommyaweosme unary (or just tommyaweosme) is like [[unary]] but it uses repitions of the image below:  [[File:Tommy_aweosme.png]] [[Category:Joke languages]][[Category:Concepts]][[Category:2024]]"
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> 1724878010 484807 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Tommyaweosme14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137104&oldid=137099 5* 03Tommyaweosme 5* (+272) 10
> 1724878131 443610 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Tommyaweosme unary14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137105&oldid=137102 5* 03Tommyaweosme 5* (+124) 10
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> 1724879204 406632 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Yayimhere-like esolang14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137108&oldid=137107 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+31) 10/* Conditionals */
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< 1724880902 173236 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I hate that these repeated attempts to skirt the edges of the rules are beginning to potentially create something that could be defined as art (despite not necessarily tessellating into a rectangle) and thus might in some sense be valid esolangs?
> 1724881103 833869 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:MihaiEso14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137109&oldid=137041 5* 03Tommyaweosme 5* (+32) 10/* bring back the old sandbox war */
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