< 1725062668 469580 :mtm!~textual@c-71-228-84-213.hsd1.fl.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1725062773 948311 :mtm!~textual@c-71-228-84-213.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN #esolangs mtm :Textual User < 1725065673 491177 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :How did I only recently learn that 2's complement is akin to negating the most significant place value? < 1725065679 998119 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :That's so... beautiful < 1725065681 187423 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: I was recently looking at https://esolangs.org/wiki/BMOW_1 which takes a lot from 6502 including that register structure < 1725065703 108839 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :Although I suppose a negative base makes things less dependent on number of bits in the number < 1725066219 64942 :amby!~ambylastn@2a00:23c5:ce05:7801:447:1bf4:4482:60cb QUIT :Quit: so long suckers! i rev up my motorcylce and create a huge cloud of smoke. when the cloud dissipates im lying completely dead on the pavement > 1725068661 738198 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07TypeInt14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137338&oldid=121029 5* 03GUAqwq 5* (-20) 10Basic stage for proof > 1725069916 48428 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang:Introduce yourself14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137339&oldid=137308 5* 03Cycwin 5* (+82) 10 > 1725070350 735470 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Ractangle14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137340&oldid=137328 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (-59) 10 > 1725070365 275600 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07TypeInt14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137341&oldid=137338 5* 03GUAqwq 5* (+18) 10add Counting stage > 1725070479 742042 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07TypeInt14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137342&oldid=137341 5* 03GUAqwq 5* (+61) 10Add all stages > 1725071451 850129 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07TypeInt14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137343&oldid=137342 5* 03GUAqwq 5* (+292) 10/* Counting */ < 1725071459 950593 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :Turing Complete the game's architecture has more registers, but specific ones for ALU use. I don't know if it's documented anywhere except while playing the game > 1725071539 774919 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07U14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=137344 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+2306) 10Created page with "{{WIP}} This page is related to [[User:Ractangle/U]]. I used ChatGPT to make this except some command is added by myself and all program is written by myself. == Command == # U: Push 0 onto the stack. # D: Pop the top value from the stack. # L: Duplicate the top valu > 1725071669 797864 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Ractangle14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137345&oldid=137340 5* 03PrySigneToFry 5* (+584) 10/* Another topic about Esolang U */ new section < 1725072336 861741 :nitrix!~nitrix@user/meow/nitrix QUIT :Quit: ZNC 1.8.2 - https://znc.in < 1725072441 254069 :nitrix!~nitrix@user/meow/nitrix JOIN #esolangs nitrix :ZNC - https://znc.in < 1725072801 393687 :X-Scale!~X-Scale@123.64.114.89.rev.vodafone.pt JOIN #esolangs X-Scale :[https://web.libera.chat] X-Scale > 1725073463 515547 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07TypeInt14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137346&oldid=137343 5* 03GUAqwq 5* (+26) 10/* TC proof */ > 1725073477 54529 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137347&oldid=137291 5* 03None1 5* (+254) 10/* Question */ < 1725073513 536446 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :Overture doesn't seem to... use RAM < 1725073814 880477 :craigo!~craigo@user/craigo JOIN #esolangs craigo :realname < 1725074587 991220 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2782647016 documentation < 1725074597 83600 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :(Spoilers I guess?) < 1725074653 332320 :X-Scale!~X-Scale@123.64.114.89.rev.vodafone.pt QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1725074656 960712 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 JOIN #esolangs Lord_of_Life :Lord < 1725074658 476767 :Lord_of_Life!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1725074737 962334 :Lord_of_Life_!~Lord@user/lord-of-life/x-2819915 NICK :Lord_of_Life > 1725074982 708569 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137348&oldid=137347 5* 03PkmnQ 5* (+1) 10Parentheses < 1725076323 388984 :X-Scale!~X-Scale@31.22.200.28 JOIN #esolangs X-Scale :[https://web.libera.chat] X-Scale > 1725076356 43877 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07TypeInt14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137349&oldid=137346 5* 03GUAqwq 5* (+609) 10/* Boolean Operation */ > 1725076702 343936 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07TypeInt14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137350&oldid=137349 5* 03GUAqwq 5* (+1) 10forgot an 's' < 1725077074 319736 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 JOIN #esolangs * :[https://web.libera.chat] wWwwW < 1725077080 414243 :FreeFull!~freefull@46.205.206.114.nat.ftth.dynamic.t-mobile.pl QUIT : < 1725077781 327906 :X-Scale!~X-Scale@31.22.200.28 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds > 1725077819 447871 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07RECT4n=GLE14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137351&oldid=137321 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+18) 10/* the copying rule */ < 1725077896 68456 :troojg!~troojg@user/troojg JOIN #esolangs troojg :troojg > 1725078069 786351 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07RECT4n=GLE14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137352&oldid=137351 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+131) 10/* some complexity */ > 1725078117 752658 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07RECT4n=GLE14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137353&oldid=137352 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (-1) 10/* some complexity */ < 1725078958 861390 :troojg!~troojg@user/troojg QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1725080601 395636 :X-Scale!~X-Scale@123.64.114.89.rev.vodafone.pt JOIN #esolangs X-Scale :[https://web.libera.chat] X-Scale < 1725082534 736030 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 QUIT :Quit: Client closed > 1725084052 170860 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07TypeInt14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137354&oldid=137350 5* 03GUAqwq 5* (+656) 10/* Condition */ > 1725084586 901943 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07TypeInt14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137355&oldid=137354 5* 03Hakerh400 5* (+215) 10Add interpreter < 1725085086 219441 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1725085402 298457 :bookworms!~bookworms@user/bookworms QUIT :Quit: I give the F*%k up! Have a nice day! > 1725087707 366370 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Unname4798/Translated14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137356&oldid=137335 5* 03Unname4798 5* (-1) 10 > 1725088048 685978 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Unname4798/Translated14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137357&oldid=137356 5* 03Unname4798 5* (+0) 10Unname4798 changed the content model of the page [[User talk:Unname4798/Translated]] from "wikitext" to "plain text" > 1725088048 708108 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/contentmodel14]]4 change10 02 5* 03Unname4798 5* 10Unname4798 changed the content model of the page [[02User talk:Unname4798/Translated10]] from "wikitext" to "plain text" > 1725088080 355971 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Unname4798/Translated14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137358&oldid=137357 5* 03Unname4798 5* (+0) 10Undo revision [[Special:Diff/137357|137357]] by [[Special:Contributions/Unname4798|Unname4798]] ([[User talk:Unname4798|talk]]) > 1725088080 397647 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/contentmodel14]]4 change10 02 5* 03Unname4798 5* 10Unname4798 changed the content model of the page [[02User talk:Unname4798/Translated10]] from "plain text" to "wikitext": Undo revision [[Special:Diff/137357|137357]] by [[Special:Contributions/Unname4798|Unname4798]] ([[User talk:Unname4798|talk]]) > 1725088207 336255 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07TypeInt14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137359&oldid=137355 5* 03GUAqwq 5* (+54) 10/* Copy */ > 1725088272 136470 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07TypeInt14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137360&oldid=137359 5* 03GUAqwq 5* (+19) 10/* Compare */ > 1725088280 617593 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07TypeInt14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137361&oldid=137360 5* 03GUAqwq 5* (+1) 10/* Compare */ > 1725088465 208597 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Pointstack14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137362&oldid=126363 5* 03Catto.4 5* (+953) 10a pointstack interpreter exists now so yea > 1725088473 817742 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang:Sandbox14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137363&oldid=135639 5* 03PkmnQ 5* (+0) 10PkmnQ changed the content model of the page [[Esolang:Sandbox]] from "wikitext" to "plain text" > 1725088473 866019 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/contentmodel14]]4 change10 02 5* 03PkmnQ 5* 10PkmnQ changed the content model of the page [[02Esolang:Sandbox10]] from "wikitext" to "plain text" > 1725088518 683466 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Esolang:Sandbox14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137364&oldid=137363 5* 03PkmnQ 5* (+0) 10 > 1725088518 699327 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/contentmodel14]]4 change10 02 5* 03PkmnQ 5* 10PkmnQ changed the content model of the page [[02Esolang:Sandbox10]] from "plain text" to "wikitext" < 1725088532 984046 :Ae!Ae@linux.touz.org QUIT :Quit: Bye < 1725088650 692477 :Ae!Ae@linux.touz.org JOIN #esolangs * :Ae > 1725089006 773105 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07TypeInt14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137365&oldid=137361 5* 03GUAqwq 5* (+211) 10/* Calculation */ > 1725089024 878842 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07TypeInt14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137366&oldid=137365 5* 03GUAqwq 5* (+2) 10/* Compare */ < 1725089116 667973 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… > 1725089183 53883 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/move14]]4 move10 02 5* 03Unname4798 5* 10moved [[02User talk:Unname479810]] to [[User:Unname4798/Discussion archives/July 9 to August 31]] > 1725089214 117052 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Unname479814]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137369&oldid=137368 5* 03Unname4798 5* (-69) 10Blanked the page < 1725089300 320768 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 JOIN #esolangs * :[https://web.libera.chat] wWwwW < 1725089315 184588 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :hello? > 1725089465 574818 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07TypeInt14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137370&oldid=137366 5* 03GUAqwq 5* (+150) 10/* Copy */ > 1725089832 583719 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07TypeInt14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137371&oldid=137370 5* 03GUAqwq 5* (+149) 10/* Calculation */ > 1725089849 835268 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:TypeInt14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=137372 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+155) 10Created page with "if there is a TC proof than why is it unknown computational class --~~~~" > 1725089940 427482 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Unname479814]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137373&oldid=137369 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+119) 10 > 1725089998 327569 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Unname479814]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137374&oldid=137373 5* 03Unname4798 5* (+235) 10 > 1725090028 394888 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Unname479814]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137375&oldid=137374 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+98) 10 < 1725090167 977035 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :Hi wWwwW . Sometimes people aren't around, but at least some check logs < 1725090175 506502 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo PRIVMSG #esolangs :So you can say stuff and people might reply later < 1725090192 773836 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :k < 1725090208 904683 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :thx for telling me > 1725090242 269114 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07TypeInt14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137376&oldid=137371 5* 03GUAqwq 5* (+104) 10/* Div */ > 1725090285 787650 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07TypeInt14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137377&oldid=137376 5* 03GUAqwq 5* (+82) 10/* Mod */ > 1725090309 480500 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07TypeInt14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137378&oldid=137377 5* 03GUAqwq 5* (+2) 10/* Calculation */ > 1725093208 422839 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Kak-14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=137379 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+104) 10Created page with "is there a proof that its turing complete? --~~~" > 1725093353 949569 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Yayimhere-like esolang14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137380&oldid=137214 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+0) 10 > 1725093566 410343 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Yayimhere-like esolang14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137381&oldid=137380 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+0) 10 > 1725093650 978670 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Enrtopy14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137382&oldid=104228 5* 03Ractangle 5* (-10) 10/* Code */ > 1725093673 788954 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Enrtopy14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137383&oldid=137382 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+3) 10/* I/O */ > 1725093706 936005 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Enrtopy14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137384&oldid=137383 5* 03Ractangle 5* (-20) 10/* Creator and Name */ > 1725093859 700079 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Enrtopy14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137385&oldid=137384 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+20) 10 > 1725093896 548517 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Yayimhere-like esolang14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=137386 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+213) 10Created page with "i made a 4 function calculator! number then operator is order of input. heres the code: 42 1m 47 0m 43 1o 45 0o1 1" > 1725094072 493866 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Enrtopy++14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137387&oldid=106521 5* 03Ractangle 5* (-16) 10 > 1725094112 513230 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Enrtopy14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137388&oldid=137385 5* 03Ractangle 5* (-10) 10 > 1725094137 669213 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:Yayimhere-like esolang14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137389&oldid=137386 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+4) 10 > 1725094153 423680 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Enrtopy++14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137390&oldid=137387 5* 03Ractangle 5* (-10) 10/* Code */ > 1725094165 206753 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Enrtopy++14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137391&oldid=137390 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+3) 10/* I/O */ > 1725094941 759659 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Blackboard14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137392&oldid=136764 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+53) 10 > 1725094980 150980 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Blackboard14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137393&oldid=137392 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (-1) 10 > 1725095472 681299 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07TypeInt14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137394&oldid=137378 5* 03GUAqwq 5* (+378) 10/* Turing Machine */ > 1725095551 556485 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07TypeInt14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137395&oldid=137394 5* 03GUAqwq 5* (+122) 10/* Calculation */ > 1725095937 311026 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Blackboard14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137396&oldid=137393 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+8) 10 > 1725095980 97697 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07TypeInt14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137397&oldid=137395 5* 03GUAqwq 5* (+77) 10/* Turing Machine */ Tape invented! > 1725096942 813075 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07RECT4n=GLE14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137398&oldid=137353 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+14) 10/* the halting n' stuff */ < 1725097284 15118 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 QUIT :Quit: Client closed < 1725097576 213432 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User > 1725097591 787688 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07TypeInt14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137399&oldid=137397 5* 03GUAqwq 5* (+105) 10/* Turing Machine */ < 1725098177 432487 :__monty__!~toonn@user/toonn JOIN #esolangs toonn :Unknown < 1725098223 322348 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 JOIN #esolangs * :[https://web.libera.chat] wWwwW > 1725098357 424235 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07TypeInt14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137400&oldid=137399 5* 03GUAqwq 5* (+156) 10/* Turing Machine */ > 1725098393 759408 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07TypeInt14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137401&oldid=137400 5* 03GUAqwq 5* (+7) 10/* Turing Machine */ > 1725098655 648442 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07TypeInt14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137402&oldid=137401 5* 03GUAqwq 5* (+13) 10/* State Register */ > 1725098668 628169 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07TypeInt14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137403&oldid=137402 5* 03GUAqwq 5* (+1) 10/* Register */ < 1725098707 619788 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 QUIT :Quit: Client closed > 1725099496 37270 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07TypeInt14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137404&oldid=137403 5* 03GUAqwq 5* (+573) 10/* Turing Machine */ > 1725099616 235091 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07TypeInt14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137405&oldid=137404 5* 03GUAqwq 5* (+54) 10/* if-elif-else & while */ > 1725099730 937561 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07TypeInt14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137406&oldid=137405 5* 03GUAqwq 5* (-23) 10Turing Completeness proved > 1725099872 586012 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07TypeInt14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137407&oldid=137406 5* 03GUAqwq 5* (+35) 10 > 1725099997 289187 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07TypeInt14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137408&oldid=137407 5* 03GUAqwq 5* (-9) 10 > 1725100365 672342 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Gar14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137409&oldid=105566 5* 03Ractangle 5* (-13) 10 < 1725100857 252723 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1725103110 950486 :FreeFull!~freefull@46.205.206.114.nat.ftth.dynamic.t-mobile.pl JOIN #esolangs FreeFull :FreeFull < 1725103141 949629 :amby!~ambylastn@2a00:23c5:ce05:7801:43af:d0e0:d043:2f95 JOIN #esolangs * :realname < 1725103421 947870 :ajal!~ambylastn@host86-133-141-214.range86-133.btcentralplus.com JOIN #esolangs * :realname < 1725103444 562867 :amby!~ambylastn@2a00:23c5:ce05:7801:43af:d0e0:d043:2f95 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1725103899 315756 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1725104013 424480 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User > 1725104062 667791 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07U14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137410&oldid=137344 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+54) 10 < 1725105384 941580 :sprout!~sprout@84-80-106-227.fixed.kpn.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1725105804 961397 :mtm!~textual@c-71-228-84-213.hsd1.fl.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1725105921 992470 :mtm!~textual@c-71-228-84-213.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN #esolangs mtm :Textual User > 1725106408 655470 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Ractangle/U14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137411&oldid=135791 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+456) 10 > 1725106424 617716 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/move14]]4 move10 02 5* 03Ractangle 5* 10moved [[02User:Ractangle/U10]] to [[User:U (Ractangle)]] > 1725106434 281841 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/move14]]4 move10 02 5* 03Ractangle 5* 10moved [[02User:U (Ractangle)10]] to [[U (Ractangle)]] > 1725106506 287042 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/move14]]4 move10 02 5* 03Ractangle 5* 10moved [[02U10]] to [[U (PrySigneToFry)]] > 1725106717 636898 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07U (PrySigneToFry)14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137418&oldid=137416 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+123) 10/* Author */ > 1725106762 303981 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07U (PrySigneToFry)14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137419&oldid=137418 5* 03Ractangle 5* (-7) 10/* Example simple scripts */ > 1725106815 481131 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07U (PrySigneToFry)14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137420&oldid=137419 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+0) 10/* Example Programs */ > 1725106912 450342 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07U (PrySigneToFry)14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137421&oldid=137420 5* 03Ractangle 5* (-23) 10/* Simple examples */ > 1725107156 388401 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07U (PrySigneToFry)14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137422&oldid=137421 5* 03Ractangle 5* (-99) 10/* Example Programs */ > 1725107243 727750 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07U (Ractangle)14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137423&oldid=137414 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+35) 10 < 1725109030 332254 :impomatic!~impomatic@2a00:23c7:5fbd:8001:d8c8:87ae:1405:e6af JOIN #esolangs * :[https://web.libera.chat] impomatic < 1725109188 756784 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… > 1725109530 110424 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Tommyaweosme/Esolang:Sandbox14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=137424 5* 03Tommyaweosme 5* (+326) 10Created page with "== Instructions (please don't remove/hide/make hard to read) == You can use this page for any editing. Note that your edits may not be overwritten at all by other users you can use [[Esolang:Sandox|stupidbox]] to work on content that need < 1725109746 144263 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1725109928 334812 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1725111221 110944 :bookworms!~bookworms@user/bookworms JOIN #esolangs bookworms :bookworms < 1725111785 921228 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User > 1725111951 211202 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Tommyaweosme/Esolang:Sandbox14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=137425 5* 03Unname4798 5* (+402) 10Created page with "Please, remove this page! This wiki already has [[Esolang:Sandbox|the sandbox]]. Also, user pages are meant to be edited '''only''' by the user it belongs to. Example: [[User:Ais523]] is only meant to be edited only by Ais523. ~~~" > 1725111970 513124 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Tommyaweosme/Esolang:Sandbox14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137426&oldid=137425 5* 03Unname4798 5* (+9) 10 > 1725111992 608912 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Tommyaweosme/Esolang:Sandbox14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137427&oldid=137426 5* 03Unname4798 5* (-5) 10 > 1725112187 866238 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Tommyaweosme/Esolang:Sandbox14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137428&oldid=137427 5* 03Unname4798 5* (+209) 10 < 1725112295 916176 :sprout!~sprout@84-80-106-227.fixed.kpn.net JOIN #esolangs sprout :sprout < 1725113018 333351 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 JOIN #esolangs ais523 :(this is obviously not my real name) > 1725113105 721092 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 delete10 02 5* 03Ais523 5* 10deleted "[[02User:Tommyaweosme/Esolang:Sandbox10]]": userspace fork of the Sandbox (as opposed to userspace sandbox) > 1725113105 745995 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 delete10 02 5* 03Ais523 5* 10deleted "[[02User talk:Tommyaweosme/Esolang:Sandbox10]]": Deleted together with the associated page with reason: userspace fork of the Sandbox (as opposed to userspace sandbox) > 1725113303 858479 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Unname479814]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137429&oldid=136520 5* 03Unname4798 5* (+28) 10 > 1725113405 811907 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Futuri14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=137430 5* 03Unname4798 5* (+212) 10Created page with "Futuri is an esolang made by Unname4798. == Command == The only command is nothing, meaning that a new universe will be created and the old universe will be delayed by 1ms, resulting in infinitely many universes." < 1725113657 971547 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I had a great esolang idea this morning: Blindfolded Arithmetic, except with rationals, with / being rational division rather than floor-division < 1725113685 972051 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it is a fun puzzle to work out how this is TC, given sufficiently many registers > 1725113825 418654 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07NameError without a quine with a quine14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=137431 5* 03Tommyaweosme 5* (+478) 10Created page with "NameError without a quine with a quine is a derivative of [[NameError without a quine]] by [[User:Tommyaweosme]]. when you type this: Traceback (most recent call first): File "", line 1, in JustAnError: Why did yo < 1725114195 362966 :impomatic!~impomatic@2a00:23c7:5fbd:8001:d8c8:87ae:1405:e6af QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1725114238 859588 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: is that with just subtract, multiplication and division? no less-than comparison like https://esolangs.org/wiki/RASEL has? < 1725114344 509590 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: right, you also get addition < 1725114350 843124 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :also I just realised my proof was flawed < 1725114355 89782 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so it's a puzzle for me too < 1725114393 411874 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :if you have enough registers and subtraction than I think addition doesn't matter < 1725114406 437017 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :indeed < 1725114422 36831 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but on that basis, multiplication doesn't either, except for multiplication by 0 which can probably be worked around < 1725114461 598311 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh, for rationals? maybe < 1725114478 736749 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it's even more fun if you ban self-operations like self-subtraction, then the language becomes reversible < 1725114489 310620 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh no! < 1725114510 357153 :dawids_!~dawids@64.43.10.135 JOIN #esolangs * :realname < 1725114521 991746 :dawids_!~dawids@64.43.10.135 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection > 1725114531 778855 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07U (Ractangle)14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137432&oldid=137423 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+40) 10/* Commands */ < 1725114538 703710 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I don't know if this is TC or not < 1725114562 117533 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :nor did I – I thought it was but my proof was wrong < 1725114583 39880 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :any variant of integer division (together with multiplication and subtraction) lets you make conditionals easily < 1725114592 422959 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but if you lose that it becomes much harder < 1725114600 110479 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :which I guess is kind of the problem with conedy > 1725114652 105309 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Analogia14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137433&oldid=95388 5* 03Ais523 5* (+7) 10/* Specification */ fix thinko > 1725114742 981611 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07NameError without a quine with a quine without a quine14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=137434 5* 03Unname4798 5* (+156) 10Created page with "{{PAGENAME}} is a derivative of [[NameError without a quine with a quine]] by Unname4798 When you type this: JustAnError It outputs: lol no quinz foryou" > 1725114919 151454 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Unname479814]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137435&oldid=137429 5* 03Unname4798 5* (+76) 10 > 1725114929 694173 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[071 bytes :314]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=137436 5* 03Tommyaweosme 5* (+411) 10Created page with "1 bytes :3 is a esolang based off of [[3 bytes :v)]]. == interpreter == ,+++. the interpreter is in brainfuck, so every command is of a byte == print "a" == ^ == print start of heading == ~ note this only works on certain interpreters. other interpreters may > 1725115025 402633 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Analogia14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137437&oldid=137433 5* 03Ais523 5* (+969) 10/* Computational class */ proof sketch for Turing-power < 1725115075 303573 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: it's a little different from the Conedy problem – Conedy has simple conditionals but it's hard to get them to operate on anything other than recently added data, whereas this doesn't have simple conditionals at all < 1725115136 281862 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yeah > 1725115143 967668 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07NameError without a quine with a quine without a quine with a quine14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=137438 5* 03Tommyaweosme 5* (+527) 10Created page with "NameError without a quine with a quine without a quine with a quine is a language derived from [[NameError without a quine with a quine without a quine]] by [[user:tommyaweosme]] when you type in this: lo < 1725115167 412303 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I was planning to prove rational Blindfolded Arithmetic TC along similar lines to Analogia, but the proof comes down when it comes to storing arbitrary amounts of data – you don't get an accurate sin function that works on unboundedly large values < 1725115174 884534 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :`unicode GREEK SMALL LETTER PI < 1725115177 254976 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :​π > 1725115212 872953 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Analogia14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137439&oldid=137437 5* 03Ais523 5* (+9) 10/* Computational class */ sin works in radians, not full circles > 1725115235 478902 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Analogia14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137440&oldid=137439 5* 03Ais523 5* (+1) 10/* Computational class */ typo > 1725115250 313280 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07NameError14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137441&oldid=136196 5* 03Tommyaweosme 5* (+45) 10 < 1725115271 317503 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 JOIN #esolangs * :[https://web.libera.chat] wWwwW < 1725115275 741548 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so it's hard to prevent lack-of-rounding errors accumulating on your bigints < 1725115284 352597 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :hello < 1725115288 596390 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :hi wWwwW < 1725115303 801158 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :sory if i interupted an discussion < 1725115356 175846 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it's OK, IRC regulars are used to being in multiple conversations at once < 1725115367 806643 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :k < 1725115376 722558 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :after a while it reaches the point where you can have two conversations at once with the same person, because you've had so much practice doing it with two different people < 1725115391 124306 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :lol < 1725115423 260195 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :well thats wild < 1725115495 555326 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i had an idea and idk if its a good idea(a esolang idea). can i get some feedback? < 1725115500 653465 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :go for it < 1725115510 50382 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :k > 1725115517 545225 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07 bytes :lennyface:14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=137442 5* 03Unname4798 5* (+169) 10Created page with "{{PAGENAME}} is an esolang made by Unname4798. == Interpreter in [[branflakes]] == . This language always outputs NUL (0x00), no matter what. == Quine (hexdump) == 0x00" < 1725115519 985269 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so you know the chilcrens game word chain > 1725115528 552750 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07 bytes :lennyface:14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137443&oldid=137442 5* 03Unname4798 5* (+1) 10 < 1725115531 296505 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I know two different games with that name < 1725115545 243762 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :are you talking about the one where you change one letter of a word each time? < 1725115554 336905 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :to go from one word to another? < 1725115558 351007 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :that gam,e where you do like: cat -> cot -> dot < 1725115563 775563 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :that > 1725115570 133040 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Unname479814]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137444&oldid=137435 5* 03Unname4798 5* (+43) 10 < 1725115570 858146 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but as a stirng rewriting esolang < 1725115594 72303 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :idk how the syntax would be < 1725115596 957087 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but like < 1725115605 511223 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :there are a few rules: < 1725115611 223168 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :there is https://esolangs.org/wiki/2C which is similar to that but it changes all the letters at once < 1725115617 256622 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so yours would be different < 1725115630 298191 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :every state of the memory(string) must be a english woird < 1725115646 831429 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523 i read that. rlly cool < 1725115684 861102 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :second rule: only one letter at a time < 1725115702 335972 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :if no words can be generated then we go to the next word < 1725115706 660053 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :or append it < 1725115709 806116 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :idk which one < 1725115732 800180 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and we continue until < 1725115753 313244 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it'd be a different language, but it could be interesting if the "change one letter at a time, must be English words only" rule applied to the program rather than the memory < 1725115769 242116 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yea < 1725115778 913278 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and maybe the command run would be based on what letter was changed from and to < 1725115780 724440 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :maybe both? < 1725115792 79774 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :like both emmroy most be word < 1725115800 670396 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and also applied to program < 1725115802 752767 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but idk < 1725115803 118970 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh, I hadn't remembered this 2C thing. that's a nice way to represent a 1D cellular automaton that works on a finite region extendible to the left < 1725115805 604567 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :perhaps the position in the word gives the command, and the letter changed from and to specifies the arguments < 1725115816 83865 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :maybe < 1725115817 170379 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :idk¨ < 1725115817 670558 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :¨ < 1725115827 827702 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: right, it was invented as a "step in TCness proof" language but it's come in useful for more than one TCness proof < 1725115831 539287 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :how did i send ¨ twice < 1725115836 723891 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :in one click < 1725115837 877362 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :anyway < 1725115843 665773 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I'm not sure, that letter isn't even on my keyboard < 1725115853 726669 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ah, ¨ < 1725115867 48224 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :that thing i keep pressin while entering enter < 1725115899 153619 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I have a huge number of characters on my keyboard – I chose a keyboard layout that lets me type a wide range of possibilities because I need symbols and non-English letters so often < 1725115902 412882 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but, I don't know where all of them are < 1725115909 978651 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :lol < 1725115921 310878 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it's labelled like a normal keyboard, I just have to memorise all the characters that aren't there normally < 1725115924 697285 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wait i got an stubid(i think) idea < 1725115933 592803 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :for a esolang < 1725115958 96353 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :the "memory must be a real word" rule makes it hard to be TC because there are only finitely many real words < 1725115965 140991 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yea < 1725115971 836641 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but you could perhaps make it a list of real words, separated by spaces, and allow changing letters into spaces and vice versa < 1725115972 146161 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but if you can have multiple words? < 1725116016 77646 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :should i make it maybe? < 1725116025 296759 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I imagine programmers would find a way to work around the restriction fairly easily, though < 1725116032 305101 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it's an iso-8859-1 diacritic, the one from the series that interprets ASCII ` and ~ as such diacritics that you use by backspacing your printer and adds a few more to cover basically the same fricking letters that are already in iso-8859-1 (plus a few extra Welsh letters and). it's kind of weird to have both conceptions together in the same 256 byte character set. < 1725116042 31747 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523 yea. < 1725116049 317591 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think you can make it, although it might be hard to find a good set of commands < 1725116050 895875 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :people are wild < 1725116053 3775 :APic!apic@apic.name PRIVMSG #esolangs :☺ > 1725116068 347923 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07NameError without a quine with a quine without a quine with a quine without a quine14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=137445 5* 03Unname4798 5* (+146) 10Created page with "{{PAGENAME}} is an esolang by Unname4798. The titles are getting too long! When you type this: sercret quine code It outputs: secret quine code" < 1725116076 250413 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523 true. idk maybe it will just be subsititions but in that format < 1725116084 406074 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :name? < 1725116087 556887 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: but how else are you going to get the ¨n for your heavy metal album covers? < 1725116088 335728 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :idk what to name it < 1725116101 457502 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :probably some pun on "word chain" < 1725116110 631999 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yes > 1725116124 189336 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07NameError without a quine with a quine without a quine with a quine without a quine14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137446&oldid=137445 5* 03Unname4798 5* (+93) 10 < 1725116130 106328 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :hmm… what if it's basically Thue, but a command is written as two words that are only one letter apart < 1725116132 307407 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :idk how to make puns tho < 1725116146 556171 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :or letter-space correspondence < 1725116155 76886 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :that will enforce the "change only one letter at a time" naturall < 1725116157 849395 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :* naturally < 1725116176 512339 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :then you require the entire program to be one long word chain, and add a rule that memory must be a list of real words < 1725116189 48086 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :letter-space correspondence? wut does that mean(ik im stubid but) < 1725116192 575604 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :this would be called something like "change chain" I guess < 1725116194 910433 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: sure, and french Ÿ and the rare welsh ẁẃỳýẀẂỲÝ < 1725116211 863140 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wWwwW: I think I said the wrong thing, I meant you get to change letters into spaces and vice versa in your chain < 1725116219 613428 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yea < 1725116224 152225 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :that would be cool < 1725116224 845165 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so that you can have multiple words < 1725116236 724545 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ok < 1725116239 558063 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ill write it now < 1725116240 237300 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :. o O ( word worm ) < 1725116250 367225 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ill just make a stubid pun < 1725116255 393420 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :that's a good name too < 1725116262 892670 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wut? < 1725116267 932905 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e's name < 1725116271 806479 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yea < 1725116280 531931 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :can i use that int-e? < 1725116284 957085 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :sure go ahead < 1725116291 954888 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :thx:) credit?? < 1725116338 804332 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :up to you, it's just a name < 1725116347 489953 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but still < 1725116355 810190 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i dont wanna "steal" it < 1725116366 509259 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :the set is ASCII `~ (grave and tilde) then iso-8859-1 ¨¯´¸ (diaresis macron acute cedille) and possibly ° (ring) and then iso-8859-2 ˘˛ˇ˝ (brevis ogonek caron double-acute). I don't understand why the macron is in iso-8859-1 though. < 1725116370 781867 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :whats your esolang wiki profile(if you have one)? < 1725116374 403949 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :you are not stealing it, you have permission, with or without credit, I don't mind either way < 1725116379 80355 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :"Word Worm is an [[esoteric programming language]] designed by [[User:Yayimhere]] and [[User:ais523]] and named by [[User:int-e]]" < 1725116389 138497 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yes < 1725116396 600398 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :or, hmm, is that a lowercase or capital i on int-e? < 1725116405 536451 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I prefer lower case. < 1725116409 950651 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think that's how we've done the credit in the past < 1725116421 596816 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://esolangs.org/wiki/User:Int-e does that part right ;) < 1725116422 938599 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and then unicode has a few more of these backspacing diacritics outside of these sets < 1725116442 36220 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :low or uppercase wut? < 1725116443 920445 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :username? < 1725116448 896216 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :like link? < 1725116454 908472 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :right, the i on the link t the username < 1725116461 347806 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :* to the uesrname < 1725116471 26642 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :k < 1725116474 616362 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :wWwwW: no, like on the page itself where I put {{lowercase}} < 1725116477 108417 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: well Unicode has to contain all the characters in all the existing character sets < 1725116487 184548 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh that way < 1725116488 100573 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yea > 1725116502 617738 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07 bytes :lennyface:14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137447&oldid=137443 5* 03Unname4798 5* (-1) 10 < 1725116507 356310 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Oh the link works all lower case too... I'll keep that in mind for next time. < 1725116538 761757 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :first character of a MediaWiki page name is case-insensitive, except if the sysadmin chooses for it not to be < 1725116539 396465 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(has this changed in the past... hmm... 1-2 years?) < 1725116555 75639 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :this has been true since I first started using Wikipedia, decades ago < 1725116558 586332 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: supposedly. I think it doesn't have all characters from some of the PETscii versions, or at least the correpondence isn't always clear < 1725116562 854529 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523 ik < 1725116581 235999 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :this is the only reason that {{lowercase}} works, it's based on {{DISPLAYTIYLE}} which isn't allowed to change the title to something that wouldn't work in al ink < 1725116612 126551 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: this is actually how emoji originally ended up in Unicode, and it kind-of took off from there < 1725116614 146095 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I think you typoed that < 1725116617 839016 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :s/Y/T/ (the -YLE threw me off) < 1725116620 988512 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I did, should be DISPLAYTITLE < 1725116637 655633 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :though heh, that substitution would make it worse < 1725116642 669698 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it was originally for compatibility with some obscure Japanese format for encoding text messages sent by mobile phones < 1725116655 989803 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :DISPLATTIYLE < 1725116672 982462 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ik about displaytitle < 1725116680 337091 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :I didn't < 1725116723 552302 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: really? I thought it was because they got fed up with the workarounds that changed the displayed article title by some javascript magic or used a unicode lookalike < 1725116732 266310 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1725116739 238869 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and just implemented the sane solution < 1725116761 748200 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: oh, I was talking about emoji in Unicode, not DISPLAYTITLE < 1725116779 74398 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :your memory of how DISPLAYTITLE came about is correct < 1725116796 991674 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it used to be worse, the early versions involved absolute positioning and CSS < 1725116821 649922 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh < 1725116850 849091 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yeah, because articles aren't allowed to include random javascript, so the javascript only worked when it was in the template < 1725116863 672425 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :no, templates aren't allowed to include random javascript either < 1725116865 115098 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :im working on article < 1725116868 189637 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :rn < 1725116868 535238 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :sorry, not the template < 1725116874 441555 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :sould i send when im done? < 1725116877 272019 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :*should < 1725116887 751484 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :at the time it would have been MediaWiki:Common.js < 1725116890 238027 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but some of the ultra-protected internal pages in I think the Wikimedia: namespace that define how everything is displayed < 1725116891 724821 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wWwwW: you can submit it when it's written < 1725116897 567094 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yeah, MediaWiki: namespaces < 1725116902 64287 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :* MediaWiki:Monobook.js < 1725116905 911304 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it's Common.js nowadays > 1725116915 226213 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07PAGENAME14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=137448 5* 03Unname4798 5* (+349) 10Created page with "''The title of this article is not correct because of technical limitations. The correct title is actually '''{{PAGENAME}}''''' {{PAGENAME}} is an esolang made by Unname4798. It just outputs the page name if the program is a valid page name, otherwi < 1725116916 224779 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :k ais523 > 1725116916 653982 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:B jonas/List14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137449&oldid=134893 5* 03B jonas 5* (+91) 102C > 1725116971 470543 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Unname479814]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137450&oldid=137444 5* 03Unname4798 5* (+43) 10 < 1725116982 846031 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :also not to annoy you but is uses unicode < 1725116985 752087 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :cuz i like unicode < 1725116995 421161 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I like Unicode too, to some extent < 1725117010 642811 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i use angle brackets:D < 1725117012 736678 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I dislike some of its design decisions, but at least it can represent words that ASCII can't < 1725117017 727372 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and whatever dp is < 1725117028 257649 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :in the commands < 1725117259 208523 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wait < 1725117263 866656 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i realized something < 1725117275 438450 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :only two symbols are needed for turing completness < 1725117280 215611 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :*completeness < 1725117310 130948 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :since BCT is turing complete < 1725117350 662693 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :there are various ways to be TC with two symbols in the program and two symbols in memory < 1725117361 600818 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yes < 1725117363 300666 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :although, I think BCT is cheating a bit, it really has three commands and they're just written as 11, 10 and 0 < 1725117369 649691 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yea < 1725117374 470491 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but not fully < 1725117378 663132 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but still yea < 1725117412 902827 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :also in the esolang < 1725117418 350896 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i added a single featurew < 1725117426 191064 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :contractions are decontracted < 1725117435 543211 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :to let the program grow < 1725117480 149908 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :*string < 1725117484 634796 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :is that ok? < 1725117502 901134 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I like that, although it might be hard to specify unambiguously < 1725117520 913144 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yea < 1725117524 727507 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i would add a table < 1725117526 645564 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but jnot rn < 1725117528 558971 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :maybe later < 1725117534 145418 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :are there any English contractions that correspond to two different words? I vaguely remember that there are but can't think of one offhand (maybe it could be used as a random number generator) < 1725117545 320751 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yea < 1725117546 285659 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh right, "I'd" can be short for either "I had" or "I would", I think > 1725117547 651895 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07NameError14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137451&oldid=137441 5* 03Unname4798 5* (+2) 10 < 1725117555 540811 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :true < 1725117557 181197 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :also < 1725117570 333833 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/I'd says it can be "I should", too < 1725117580 13538 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: yes < 1725117593 278915 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :another alternative is to treat the string as ending with infinitely many spaces, and allow people to change a space at the end of a word into a letter < 1725117600 904127 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i just love that in a interview for a esolang creator he said we dont have errors, we have undefined behavior < 1725117602 278265 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and grow the string that way < 1725117603 43819 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :also "I'll" can be "I will" or "I shall" and "he's" can be "he is" or "he has" < 1725117641 811967 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: "I shall" is arguably not part of the language any more, it used to be that children were taught a lot of complicated rules for when it was correct to use it, but nowadays nobody bothers < 1725117674 464052 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I sometimes say "shall" but I certainly don't use it the same way as old grammar books claim it should be used < 1725117699 158582 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :though I admit "shall" is the least common among "will, shall, would, should" in how I use them < 1725117732 845644 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I vaguely think the old rule is something along the lines of "when applied to most subjects, 'will' produces future tense and 'shall' produces an imperative, but for 'I' as the subject it's the other way round" < 1725117747 566585 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but you can also use the wrong one for emphasis < 1725117761 672569 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but I am not surprised that hardly anyone does this in practice < 1725117770 168935 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :n' become and < 1725117775 166266 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :just so you know < 1725117795 758554 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it is also strange that "would" and "should" are technically the past tenses of "will" and "shall" but have entirely different meanings, which makes you wonder if they're really past tenses at all < 1725117801 311446 :Ae!Ae@linux.touz.org QUIT :Quit: Bye < 1725117834 460730 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :holee this went a little bot of the rails < 1725117852 701586 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :the conversation, or the esolang? or both? < 1725117870 651174 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :esolangs often end up going places you don't expect, especially if you're mixing them with something poorly-defined like the English language < 1725117871 451930 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :the conversation < 1725117886 733517 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523 yes with the esolang thing < 1725117897 88003 :Ae!Ae@linux.touz.org JOIN #esolangs * :Ae < 1725117906 75010 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :eh, I'm fine with those auxiliary verb stuff being irregular. will, would, can, could, shall, should, may, might, ought < 1725117933 537188 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :do and did, have and had < 1725117935 750920 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :is ought the past tense of anything? < 1725117940 732702 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :is and were < 1725117959 911067 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I don't think ought is past < 1725118015 438625 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :my dictionary says that etymologically it's the past tense of "own", and at one point in history it was the past tense of "owe" < 1725118026 923176 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :you own a dictionary?!?! < 1725118028 181639 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :sorry < 1725118029 99588 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :idk < 1725118030 345065 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I mean "would" and "should" and "could" are reasonable past tenses simply because English sometimes uses past tense in conditionals < 1725118035 708270 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :nobody i know does that < 1725118044 369350 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :of course I own a dictionary! I have three on the shelf next to me < 1725118057 683484 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :damn < 1725118089 876347 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :. o O ( welcome to people who grew up without smart phones ) < 1725118092 382206 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I do own several paper dictionaries but I generally use computerised ones nowadays < 1725118110 139551 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wow < 1725118133 372103 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I mean if you're not nomadic and have a bookshelf why wouldn't you own a dictionary < 1725118134 311516 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :when I was at school, a dictionary was one of the items I was supposed to carry with me to lessons < 1725118145 759345 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :holee < 1725118164 579269 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :jeez: couldn’t’ve < 1725118169 999904 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :what a contraction < 1725118170 569122 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :really? I don't think I was ever supposed to carry a dictionary, except to the language exams < 1725118176 616822 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :to school I mean < 1725118183 599509 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I imagine different schools have different rules < 1725118188 187076 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yes < 1725118208 776407 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :wWwwW: using a paper dictionary is easy to learn... but there's no real reason to anymore < 1725118226 140795 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yea < 1725118242 347266 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :im done with the contraction cuz else ill go insane < 1725118246 558815 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :not in newtons way tho < 1725118303 132488 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :. o O ( remember phone books? ) < 1725118311 779076 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I tried to learn how to use a dictionary for Chinese – this is a more helpful skill than for English because Chinese characters you don't know are almost impossible to enter into a computer if they aren't in a copy-pasteable form already < 1725118321 366833 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ye < 1725118329 842177 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: yes, although they were already mostly useless by the time I was growin up > 1725118331 674486 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Word worm14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=137452 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+1240) 10Created page with "{{Lowercase}} '''Word Worm''' is an [[esoteric programming language]] designed by [[User:Yayimhere]] and [[User:ais523]] and named by [[User:int-e]] based on the children's game word chain == types == there are two types: * letters which are letters in the memory (a < 1725118332 281361 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :* growing > 1725118363 879169 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Word worm14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137453&oldid=137452 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+3) 10 < 1725118372 348933 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :im done < 1725118401 569348 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wWwwW: oh, I think you need at least a little context-sensitivity for the letter replacements, although maybe the contraction-expansions are enough < 1725118443 980389 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :k < 1725118445 407009 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :how < 1725118449 235060 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :tho < 1725118458 546161 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wait < 1725118486 62923 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :unless one of the word s that would be replaced in is equal to x < 1725118510 726305 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wait, what letter replacements? in cellular automata? to enter chinese characters? to look up words in a dictionary? to transliterate a script to another? < 1725118515 580098 :ajal!~ambylastn@host86-133-141-214.range86-133.btcentralplus.com NICK :amby < 1725118525 147285 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I guess I need a little context for your statement < 1725118552 629449 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ah its about our esolang < 1725118553 769561 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: see the most recent new page, as posted by esolangs < 1725118563 736160 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yea > 1725118635 155981 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Word worm14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137454&oldid=137453 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+114) 10 < 1725118648 670232 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh nice, I can stop temporarily ignoring those because you banned Tommyaweosme indefinitely < 1725118651 672471 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :great < 1725118680 925284 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: Oh I think the lower/upper case confusion I had was really about the links in generated pages like page histories, where user names are always capitalized. < 1725118745 162798 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: I didn't < 1725118746 911381 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :did someone else? < 1725118786 79409 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I did ban them from the sandbox, specifically < 1725118824 99833 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ah, you just banned it from one page < 1725118831 444596 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yeah, I can't read < 1725118889 133172 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :if any of you can make a usefull program ill be very happty AND suprized:) < 1725119019 643785 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :are people allowed to add more contractions to the page? or is that the complete list? < 1725119031 769113 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yes they are < 1725119050 876557 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :you tend to design your esolangs on the side of maximum difficulty to program in, so it might take a while before anyone makes a serious attempt < 1725119065 590039 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :just maybe ask me in discussion < 1725119095 65387 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523 true.also this was inspired by an odd string rewriting esolang < 1725119102 912281 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :or whatever it was called < 1725119298 666500 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh, it's sub-TC – once you split a word into two words, those words no longer have a way to interact with each other, so all that matters is which words exist in the string, not how many < 1725119320 564111 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so there's only finite storage < 1725119379 455995 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :the esolang < 1725119402 556035 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oof < 1725119403 835971 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wait < 1725119408 651635 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i have an command idea < 1725119425 163736 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :just cuz i rlly want it to be TC < 1725119430 872237 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :wWwwW: this one? https://esolangs.org/wiki/An_Odd_Rewriting_System < 1725119444 395845 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :no < 1725119446 610003 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh yea < 1725119484 704957 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :(yeah context was 6 minutes ago) < 1725119491 261944 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :lol > 1725119581 690707 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Word worm14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137455&oldid=137454 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+146) 10 > 1725119694 756973 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Yayimhere14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137456&oldid=137081 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+16) 10 < 1725119724 999985 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :hey ais523 shouldnt word worm be added to your language list < 1725119735 822547 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :since you created it with me < 1725119740 759056 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I don't put every language I was involved with there < 1725119746 749221 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh k < 1725119932 477063 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ill make a program and try it out > 1725119951 272270 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Word worm14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137457&oldid=137455 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+15) 10 > 1725120056 520493 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Word worm14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137458&oldid=137457 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+101) 10 < 1725120312 756654 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wats the most usefull esolang? < 1725120376 602020 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :in your opinion < 1725120419 210994 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :useful for what? < 1725120434 904407 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :useful for proving things: probably tag systems or The Waterfall Model < 1725120444 828384 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :testing if something is consistent < 1725120446 4126 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :useful for programming in: probably Befunge-98 < 1725120461 581080 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ye < 1725120467 635270 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I'm not sure there are many (or any?) esolangs that do consistency testing < 1725120489 248583 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :that would be interesting to create < 1725120493 212882 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :some people have written Turing machines that test whether certain proof systems are consistent < 1725120502 718720 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yea < 1725120507 398904 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but there are no esolangs < 1725120511 731448 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :because, a proof system can't prove itself consistent (unless it's actually inconsistent), so it can't prove that the Turing machine doesn't halt < 1725120517 326480 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yes < 1725120536 389329 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :the most useful one is MMIX because it'll be used for teaching a hundred thousand programmers essential programming knowledge by the glorious final edition of TAOCP; except that the part that's esoteric is the part that's not used for such teaching < 1725120578 91520 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :the teaching part should be as non-esoteric as possible to be useful for teaching < 1725120596 748708 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yea < 1725120604 7285 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :esolangs can be useful for teaching < 1725120611 497301 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I guess you could quote https://esolangs.org/wiki/Lawrence_J._Krakauer%27s_decimal_computer because it was used to teach young programmers back when they had very few opportunities to learn programming and to run programs < 1725120643 678940 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :there are people who find regular programming languages hard to understand but can work much more easily with BF, for example < 1725120660 500462 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :like me lol:) < 1725120667 983364 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: teaching in general, sure, but I think for teaching programming it's the better the less esoteric the language is. could still work with some esoteric, but you should aim to make it less esoteric < 1725120836 871469 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :anybody who wants to try making such a esolang for testing consitency < 1725120897 610214 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :teaching with esoteric features is the reason why we meet people who get confused about how to write fizzbuzz because they skipped right to the two-thirds of "Evolution of a programmer" before learning how to use a numeric for loop < 1725120911 824435 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: https://esolangs.org/wiki/Waduzitdo was created for teaching too, I think < 1725120924 673650 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yesw it was < 1725120927 232104 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :*yes < 1725120934 591597 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ik thta for a fact < 1725120936 545254 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :*that < 1725121199 289048 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :obviously sometimes practical access trumps esotericness, like if all you have as a child to prorgam on is a SHARP EL-5120 calculator then it's better to use its built-in interpreter no matter how it has esoteric features like `IF =N` working as a shortcut for `IF 0=N` but `IF 1725121411 545731 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07U (Ractangle)14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137459&oldid=137432 5* 03Ractangle 5* (-14) 10/* Commands */ < 1725121439 769671 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://esolangs.org/wiki/Waduzitdo => huh, I hadn't seen this one yet < 1725121454 38238 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :noice esolang < 1725121455 605696 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i think < 1725121491 815469 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :to be clear I was not this limited, I had access to a 386 PC with somewhat usable interpreter and compiler software for the decade < 1725121502 726432 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :the programmable pocket calculator came later > 1725121673 269035 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07U (Ractangle)14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137460&oldid=137459 5* 03Ractangle 5* (-19) 10/* Commands */ < 1725121788 653310 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i have another esolang idea. can i get feedback or...? < 1725121821 365337 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :go for it < 1725121824 397050 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :k < 1725121827 393191 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :idea: < 1725121836 748187 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wait a sec < 1725121842 616456 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i eed google translate < 1725121844 822190 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :*need < 1725121868 423614 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :tug of war < 1725121871 32423 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :like esolang < 1725121877 296960 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :where you have two sides of the string < 1725121891 687362 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :then their power level of symbols is defined < 1725121898 463702 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :the one with the highest grows fatser < 1725121905 46628 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :the one who has the most copies < 1725121907 894712 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wins < 1725121916 429664 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and the loser dies < 1725121942 907152 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :there are a few competitive esolangs like that < 1725121952 679270 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but like < 1725121957 84675 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :spesifically with tug of war > 1725121979 930077 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Word worm14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137461&oldid=137458 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+52) 10/* examples */ < 1725121979 932938 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :strangely we don't have an article on Core War, but https://esolangs.org/wiki/BF_Joust is fun < 1725121983 245033 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :idk < 1725121987 342280 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :very loose concept rn < 1725122013 499188 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I find it hard to see how a tug of war would work because don't you just win that by pulling as hard as possible? so it'd be about writing whatever program had the most power < 1725122026 594712 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so basc strucute < 1725122028 44705 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and there wouldn't be much strategy < 1725122036 916575 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :no not like a game < 1725122046 555855 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but as how the programming lang works < 1725122067 31822 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but also with other rule < 1725122071 704978 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :*rules < 1725122084 538335 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so the result of the tug of war is used to compute, somehow? < 1725122104 705395 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yes < 1725122108 26680 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :or its iterated < 1725122112 34008 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :with some other stuff < 1725122121 421186 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :this reminds me of evolutionary programming < 1725122131 418241 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it is kinda like that < 1725122132 564657 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but I'm not sure there have been any successful esolangs like that < 1725122148 438946 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :other than https://esolangs.org/wiki/Biota which is successful in the sense that its creator got money for it < 1725122160 250581 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :damn < 1725122166 754648 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :money for a esolang?????? < 1725122168 264447 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :how < 1725122169 948161 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :tf < 1725122179 90963 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I am not sure either < 1725122188 759872 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :lol < 1725122193 391514 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but like basic logic < 1725122201 163540 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :you set up two qeues int he string < 1725122201 575076 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it was very early in the history of esolangs, that might have something to do with it < 1725122209 544233 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :seperated by `()` < 1725122210 45167 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :` < 1725122211 400957 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :​? Permission denied < 1725122243 168124 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :each has a single symbol < 1725122255 819501 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wait no < 1725122265 629472 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ill write it down then ill give a link < 1725122274 670694 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :cuz its kinda hard to explain in chat < 1725122333 855108 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :or somethin < 1725122336 707998 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :maybe not a link < 1725122429 596297 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wWwwW: you know in abtract that you can sell lots of copies of software, each for affordably cheap but with lots of buyers together it adds up, and so you can make a business from developing software, right? it's mostly about video games, but works for other software too. that existed even as far back as the 1980s when lots of people started to have personal computers, except software was sold on < 1725122435 950091 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :cartridges or disks or tape rather than downloaded from app stores or game installer frameworks like Steam. < 1725122451 320125 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :floppies sent by mail, and cartridges sold or lent out in physical stores < 1725122461 415285 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh ok < 1725122480 706655 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :you can absolutely sell Game of life implementation as a fun toy, and other esolangs too < 1725122488 549068 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :lol > 1725122492 410370 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07U (Ractangle)14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137462&oldid=137460 5* 03Ractangle 5* (-35) 10/* Commands */ < 1725122516 71263 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :or, you know, a simulation video game that happens to have an esoteric language in them > 1725122527 710701 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07U (Ractangle)14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137463&oldid=137462 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+29) 10/* Commands */ < 1725122529 69013 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yes > 1725122545 354823 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07U (Ractangle)14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137464&oldid=137463 5* 03Ractangle 5* (-14) 10 < 1725122739 453797 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Microsoft got rich from selling five generations of (non-esoteric) BASIC interpreters, and they were so popular that each one had to include partial compatibility with some of the weird features in the previous generations just because people already knew them < 1725122777 415423 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :here it is: < 1725122777 915583 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so first we have string in this structure: < 1725122778 418012 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :    blahblahblah()blahblahblah < 1725122778 915933 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :then we set the power level of each in the program < 1725122779 416157 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so we tug < 1725122779 915602 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :the symbols closest to the brackets are moved in and they play. lets say one symbol as n and another k < 1725122780 416029 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :they copy each other by n and k each iteration until one has more copies tha the other. then the copies are deleted and the powerlevels of each symbol powerlevels are set to the number of copies. then the symbols are moved to the end of the two queues or whatever < 1725122780 915927 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :halt if nobody wins < 1725122783 843853 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :they're only just recently trying to phase out BASIC by replacing it with javascript < 1725122861 452314 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: wow, those languages are so different – JS is probably not an easy language to learn first, or at all for that matter, whereas BASIC is overly simplistic and can make it hard to learn a followup language > 1725122882 805105 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07U (Ractangle)14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137465&oldid=137464 5* 03Ractangle 5* (-17) 10/* Commands */ < 1725122898 508736 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wWwwW: hmm, I imagine that would depend a lot on the details – wouldn't one or other of the symbols end up winning immediately? < 1725122910 745788 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :maybe < 1725122911 587497 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :idk < 1725122915 739898 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :just the very basic idea < 1725122928 619627 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :although, you effectively have a two-queues language which is quite similar to cyclic tag (which in effect has a command queue and a data queue), so there might be a way to make it work < 1725122940 124560 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yea < 1725123031 34542 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I kind of hate javascript because of how easy it makes to write bad programs because its defaults are bad, and harder to learn the programming style that actually lets you write good programs. It's kind of the same problem that C++ has, but I think it's worse. Javascript still doesn't have a built-in array type where accessing past the end of the array immediately raises an error. Now you can argue that < 1725123037 281693 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it's still an improvement over VBA, but I'm not convinced. < 1725123055 873888 :bookworms!~bookworms@user/bookworms QUIT :Quit: I give the F*%k up! Have a nice day! < 1725123073 834736 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :On the plus side, you can just access the same COM API from Java or C# or whatever if you want a language that doesn't start with so many bad defaults. < 1725123112 725854 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :if you're using an array as a "hash table from integers", reading/writing past the end isn't a logical error, is it? < 1725123122 824520 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :you just get a "key not found" when reading, and add a new key/value pair when writing < 1725123125 920208 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :Also I'm earning money partly from programming MS's VBScript, which I didn't even count among the five generations, and which crashes on X=&H7FFFFFFF\-1 < 1725123140 601942 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: not even a divide error? < 1725123152 946907 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1725123169 426046 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I guess 1/0 is a divide error in the language and INT_MIN/-1 is a divide error in the interpreter < 1725123171 305964 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: no. it catches basically all other arithmetic errors and raises either a Type error or a Divide by zero or some other exception, but they messed up that one case somehow < 1725123175 499687 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :although, that isn't even INT_MIN, it's INT_MIN+1 < 1725123189 482678 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :err, it's INT_MAX, sorry < 1725123193 319570 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :are you sure you wrote the right number? < 1725123198 63894 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :no, INT_MIN/-1 implicitly upgrades to doubles < 1725123210 735605 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :no, I wrote the wrong number, you're right, it's X=&H80000000\-1 < 1725123219 934257 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :that's better < 1725123229 611583 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(and 0x80000000 is INT_MIN) < 1725123286 132269 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I am not sure why symmetrical integers (where 0x80000001 is INT_MIN and 0x80000000 is a trap representation) never really caught on < 1725123323 364649 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :probably because processors like to use the same commands for signed and unsigned arithmetic, when possible? < 1725123343 764801 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I guess sNaN never really caught on either < 1725123383 552028 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :how do sNaNs work on x86(_64)? < 1725123422 859011 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: because 2s' complement integers let you easily implement multiprecision arithmetic, which is very significant if you're writing a BASIC with a 32-bit integer type, a 32-bit float type, and a 64-bit float type (besides the usual 16-bit integer type) that can run on a 286 < 1725123473 172178 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: this is 2's complement, just with one invalid representation < 1725123489 543801 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :in multiprecision arithmetic, all the digits are unsigned other than the most significant, so it would still work < 1725123524 531061 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh, I see – you're talking about BASIC in particular, which doesn't have unsigned integers < 1725123602 523271 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :SNANs work just fine on x86_64 (except possibly if you're using some obsolete instruction extensions), except for the part where if you use SSE/AVX operations then the result for binary arithmetic operations like add subtract multiply divide min max with two nan inputs uses a rule that's inconvenient for the programmer becauase it makes addition not commutative (it was probably convenient in the first < 1725123608 520198 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :hardware implementations of SSE) < 1725123625 238646 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :s/in the first hardware impelmentations/for developing the first hardware implementations/ < 1725123648 921452 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :is it possible for dis to be turing complete?: https://esolangs.org/wiki/Not_fish < 1725123699 744150 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 QUIT :Quit: Client closed < 1725123725 97198 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :mind you, this isn't because SSE has a particularly bad rules. almost all floating-point implementations other than x87 either use a similarly bad rule for two NaN inputs, or fold all NaNs to just a single NaN representation < 1725123736 232676 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(or they don't have NaNs at all) < 1725123928 746308 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :b_jonas: well, with sNaNs the result doesn't really matter because you'd expect the program to crash anyway, it's qNaNs where the result matters < 1725124054 837054 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :sure, the problem about result of binary ops with two NaN inputs is the same with just qNaNs. an SNaN input gets downgraded to a qNaN while raising an exception before that part. < 1725124107 409707 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but that's like caring about the state of registers after a segfault < 1725124120 911169 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :there are programs that do it, but most programs want to exit on a crash anyway < 1725124270 815785 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: no, usually you just mask the exception, clear the status register, and read the status register to see if any invalid op exception was raised by reading the status register. floating point exceptions default to being masked everywhere in low-level stuff, like in a C program or the x86 ABIs. you need extra work to unmask the exceptions so that they raise a unix signal or x86 interrupt, which is < 1725124276 824715 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :extra effort that you almost never do. < 1725124332 853372 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: most of the time you only read the result and never read the status register, but SNaNs (as separate from QNaNs) are only useful if you do read the status register to know if an invalid operation exception was raised from using a SNaN > 1725124416 682028 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Pointstack14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137466&oldid=137362 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+32) 10/* Interpreter */ Wrap text < 1725124475 968183 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :if the exception is unmasked, what do OSes translate it to? I'm guessing SIGFPE, based on the name < 1725124501 164866 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it is strange that SIGFPE, in practice, is almost always raised only by integer divisions rather than floating point operations < 1725124564 906680 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ooh, now I'm wondering whether you could do something clever with the inexact flag, like emulating int arithmetic with float arithmetic and checking for overflow across a range of instructions < 1725124690 30813 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :exactly. the whole idea where you can unmask floating-point exceptions so they raise an interrupt is at least obsolete, and possibly was always a bad idea. that's probably why unix never even bothered to add a separate signal for it and just reuses the division by zero signal. they don't ban you from unmasking interrupts, because that's a CPU feature and they don't just ban CPU features without a good < 1725124696 60416 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :reason, but they don't support it even to the minor part where the two exceptions that x86 does distinguish translate to different signals. < 1725124712 903710 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :(admittedly that was *partly* because they ran out of 32 signal numbers and didn't want to extend to more than 32, but still) > 1725124716 384022 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07U (Ractangle)14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137467&oldid=137465 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+108) 10Categories > 1725124795 153197 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Word worm14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137468&oldid=137461 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+24) 10Category < 1725124846 320241 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 JOIN #esolangs * :[https://web.libera.chat] wWwwW > 1725124858 69276 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07 bytes :lennyface:14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137469&oldid=137447 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+159) 10Categories > 1725124916 72470 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07PAGENAME14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137470&oldid=137448 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+45) 10Nowiki, category < 1725124922 615134 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :hello? < 1725124951 378002 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wWwwW: the article is ambiguous > 1725124951 807410 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07PAGENAME14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137471&oldid=137470 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (-94) 10Template < 1725124970 275676 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :because you've grouped instructions symmetrically, it means that some of them can't be determined from the spec < 1725124972 987881 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :im sorry < 1725124975 597715 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :e.g. the first command could turn either left or right < 1725124979 332020 :impomatic!~impomatic@2a00:23c7:5fbd:8001:d8c8:87ae:1405:e6af JOIN #esolangs * :[https://web.libera.chat] impomatic < 1725125011 22119 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1725125017 979134 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :true < 1725125022 509070 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :just forget tht esolang < 1725125041 118288 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :also i tried to make rectangle better > 1725125074 596230 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07NameError without a quine with a quine without a quine with a quine without a quine14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137472&oldid=137446 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+161) 10Categories > 1725125173 638032 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07NameError without a quine with a quine14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137473&oldid=137431 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+179) 10Categories > 1725125191 334709 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07NameError without a quine with a quine14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137474&oldid=137473 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+75) 10See also > 1725125235 354653 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07NameError without a quine with a quine without a quine14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137475&oldid=137434 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+267) 10See also, categories > 1725125308 812678 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07NameError without a quine with a quine without a quine with a quine14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137476&oldid=137438 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+283) 10See also, categories > 1725125334 674390 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07NameError without a quine with a quine without a quine with a quine without a quine14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137477&oldid=137472 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+18) 10Category < 1725125419 107778 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User > 1725125444 24849 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[071 bytes :314]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137478&oldid=137436 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+152) 10Categories < 1725125487 208244 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but can you check it out agian ais523? < 1725125490 162621 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :*again > 1725125515 957165 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Futuri14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137479&oldid=137430 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+78) 10Categories < 1725125717 158109 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wWwwW: the article is better but I still don't fully understand how real/imaginary works on the second and subsequent cycles < 1725125725 735998 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :k < 1725125764 758509 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :wait < 1725125766 732956 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :cycle? < 1725125808 766817 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :well, your rules start again after the second rectangle is made < 1725125811 937425 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :that's what I'm calling a cycle < 1725125821 206406 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh ok < 1725125835 830576 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :what spesifically dont you understand? > 1725125844 812454 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Word worm14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137480&oldid=137468 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+149) 10/* examples */ < 1725125907 567887 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :what rule is used for deciding which tiles/symbols are real and which are imaginary < 1725125911 737208 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :after the first time through < 1725125930 418720 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :like < 1725125934 370410 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :the same as before < 1725125979 704608 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so it re-scans the rectangle for symbols where all the neighbours are the same? < 1725125998 361956 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :yes < 1725126030 362901 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :OK > 1725126037 49885 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07RECT4n=GLE14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137481&oldid=137398 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+4) 10/* generating the rectangle */ < 1725126058 679999 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :thats a part of my expentioal "conjecture" < 1725126063 585089 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :*exponetial < 1725126242 814281 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :hey ais523 in your 90 esolang it says it has unknown comp class. but its also total. thats a comp class < 1725126301 98584 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I didn't add the total category < 1725126316 21457 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :...then who did? < 1725126317 834332 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :hmmm < 1725126322 837105 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :PythonshellDebugwindow, it seems < 1725126329 243606 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :hm < 1725126332 815265 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it is ambiguous because the program affects how other programs operate < 1725126346 716055 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :what us < 1725126348 780992 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :'*is < 1725126354 982308 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so the 90 interpreter always deterministically exits, being TC – but it could potentially induce other programs to become TC in the process < 1725126360 77348 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :* exits, being total < 1725126400 287582 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :interesting < 1725126402 434071 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :agian < 1725126413 779744 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :a interesting version of unknown computational class < 1725126426 242761 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i would say that should be a category < 1725126427 666680 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :like < 1725126435 32354 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :varible computational class < 1725126436 978596 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but idk > 1725126444 645911 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[079014]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137482&oldid=75560 5* 03Ais523 5* (-18) 10Undo revision [[Special:Diff/75560|75560]] by [[Special:Contributions/PythonshellDebugwindow|PythonshellDebugwindow]] ([[User talk:PythonshellDebugwindow|talk]]) the 90 process itself halts deterministically but the program continues running in other processes that it has just modified < 1725126500 877511 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :unfortunately I don't have an example program for you, it is a difficult language to write in, especially because if you make a mistake you might quite possibly need to reboot your computer < 1725126504 513767 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and it runs differently on different machines < 1725126517 253799 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :lol < 1725126573 449076 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :maybe on a virtual amchine < 1725126575 98723 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :like idk < 1725126584 663728 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :just a C64 sim or somethin? > 1725126617 836312 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07U (Ractangle)14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137483&oldid=137467 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+44) 10/* Commands */ < 1725126621 382804 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so maybe for that? or... < 1725126713 728448 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it's possible but would be a lot of work, especially as VMs don't have many running processes to interfere with < 1725126726 817451 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :k < 1725126954 884744 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :also wanna make an esolang maybe idk? < 1725126982 87615 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :im too proporally stupid < 1725127024 418664 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I made one earlier today, I haven't written the article yet < 1725127039 542517 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :cool < 1725127045 498661 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh wait < 1725127052 494453 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :but it's basically https://esolangs.org/wiki/Blindfolded_Arithmetic except with rationals, and using rational division instead of floor-division < 1725127056 406214 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :i meant with me(im and idiot ig) < 1725127091 686332 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it takes me a while to make esolangs normally < 1725127096 439380 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :I typically only make a few in a year < 1725127101 790457 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :and sometimes they take months to make properly < 1725127103 281771 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :damn < 1725127109 624433 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :well ok < 1725127157 947507 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://esolangs.org/wiki/Grill_Tag took years to prove Turing-complete and I ended up having to invent another esolang to use in the proof < 1725127171 132663 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :damn > 1725128629 893044 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Unname4798/Translated Esolang War II14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=137484 5* 03Unname4798 5* (+2850) 10Created page with "< Span style="font family:with serifs;color:black; font size: 60 horizontally;editing settings:centered;">fighting game<<> ::::::::::::::::::::::::::: The author is[[user:PrySigneToFry|< span style="color:blue; displayed: yellow > 1725128648 467553 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/move14]]4 move10 02 5* 03Unname4798 5* 10moved [[02User talk:Unname4798/Translated Esolang War II10]] to [[User:Unname4798/Translated Esolang War II]] < 1725128693 11270 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :`? ais523 < 1725128695 292985 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Agent “Iä” Smith is an alien with a strange allergy to avian body covering, which he is trying to retroactively prevent from ever evolving. On the 3rd of March, he's lawful good. < 1725128714 85721 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :what the < 1725128721 671527 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Hmm, not what I was looking for < 1725128732 691727 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :`hwrl ais523 < 1725128734 429324 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://hack.esolangs.org/repo/log/tip/wisdom/ais523 < 1725128774 669950 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :what *were* you looking for? < 1725128792 356197 :b_jonas!~x@88.87.242.184 PRIVMSG #esolangs :`? Amelia Earhart < 1725128794 290449 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :Amelia Earhart? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ > 1725128872 855264 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Word worm14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137487&oldid=137480 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+89) 10/* examples */ > 1725128923 283545 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Truth-machine14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137488&oldid=137195 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+91) 10/* RECT4n=GLE */ > 1725129019 827924 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Truth-machine14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137489&oldid=137488 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+1) 10/* word worm */ > 1725129036 666236 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Word worm14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137490&oldid=137487 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+1) 10/* examples */ < 1725129193 58652 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: the name of an unfinished esolang that IIRC was revolving around bootstrapping/self-interpretation < 1725129216 625428 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: https://esolangs.org/wiki/Feather < 1725129220 386988 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :it's there, just obscure < 1725129234 238675 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :Thanks. < 1725129239 183851 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 QUIT :Quit: Client closed < 1725129266 699255 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :"Feather subsequently became something of an inside joke in #esoteric," -- this is why I thought it would be in your wisdom entry. But it isn't and never was. < 1725129272 320210 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 JOIN #esolangs * :[https://web.libera.chat] wWwwW > 1725129282 923267 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Core War14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=137491 5* 03Ais523 5* (+21) 10redirect from the name of the competition to the esolang it's based on < 1725129289 98751 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :`grwp feather < 1725129291 590557 :HackEso!~h@techne.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esolangs :dinosaur:Dinosaurs are a diverse group of pre-historic chickens with feathers. \ feather:A feather is something that can be found on most birds. It is responsible for their ability to not spontaneously float, seeing as how feathers are made of osmium. Penguins and ostriches have more feathers than most other birds, many of which are internal. > 1725129303 548364 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Word worm14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137492&oldid=137490 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+14) 10/* examples */ < 1725129326 19133 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :int-e: it's expressed as "avian body covering" > 1725129330 518962 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Truth-machine14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137493&oldid=137489 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (-211) 10/* word worm */ < 1725129339 721378 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :the joke was so-well known that it was assumed to be too obvious to write it straight off > 1725129341 241557 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Truth-machine14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137494&oldid=137493 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+212) 10/* RECT4n=GLE */ > 1725129363 909040 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Truth-machine14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137495&oldid=137494 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+10) 10/* word worm */ < 1725129368 779604 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 QUIT :Client Quit < 1725129369 222988 :int-e!~noone@int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esolangs :ais523: Oh. That flew right over my head. I guess it grew a body. < 1725129743 878087 :craigo!~craigo@user/craigo QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1725129992 321009 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 JOIN #esolangs * :[https://web.libera.chat] wWwwW > 1725130125 194170 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Truth-machine14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137496&oldid=137495 5* 03Yayimhere 5* (+4) 10/* word worm */ < 1725131560 210378 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :is computation even possible in this?: < 1725131560 692840 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 PRIVMSG #esolangs :https://esolangs.org/wiki/Func() < 1725132138 132312 :troojg!~troojg@user/troojg JOIN #esolangs troojg :troojg > 1725132191 97613 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07U (Ractangle)14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137497&oldid=137483 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+118) 10/* Commands */ < 1725132299 72801 :wWwwW!~wWwwW@94.147.203.75 QUIT :Quit: Client closed > 1725132482 472784 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Txet14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137498&oldid=132733 5* 03Fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff 5* (+8) 10/* interpreter */ > 1725132608 411998 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Txet14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137499&oldid=137498 5* 03Fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff 5* (+9) 10/* interpreter */ < 1725132818 133696 :X-Scale!~X-Scale@123.64.114.89.rev.vodafone.pt QUIT :Quit: Ping timeout (120 seconds) > 1725132907 153438 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Txet14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137500&oldid=137499 5* 03Fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff 5* (-3) 10/* interpreter */ < 1725133023 651154 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1725133402 412104 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@user/sgeo JOIN #esolangs Sgeo :realname < 1725133785 29051 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User > 1725133969 742538 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Txet14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137501&oldid=137500 5* 03Fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff 5* (+157) 10/* Commands */ > 1725134080 306535 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[0714]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=137502 5* 03Fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff 5* (+18) 10Redirected page to [[Hole]] > 1725134128 772702 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[0714]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137503&oldid=137502 5* 03Fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff 5* (+9) 10Changed redirect target from [[Hole]] to [[]] > 1725134817 524098 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07My-new-esolang.txt14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137504&oldid=135273 5* 03Ractangle 5* (-93) 10 < 1725135181 147025 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1725136069 333984 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1725136438 945334 :A_Dragon!A_D@libera/staff/dragon NICK :DNS < 1725136556 424594 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 JOIN #esolangs ais523 :(this is obviously not my real name) < 1725136911 41001 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl JOIN #esolangs * :Textual User < 1725138082 899717 :bookworms!~bookworms@user/bookworms JOIN #esolangs bookworms :bookworms > 1725138301 827832 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Truth-machine14]]4 M10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137505&oldid=137496 5* 03PythonshellDebugwindow 5* (+1) 10Alphabetise < 1725139339 513214 :tromp!~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl QUIT :Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1725139640 405525 :X-Scale!~X-Scale@123.64.114.89.rev.vodafone.pt JOIN #esolangs X-Scale :[https://web.libera.chat] X-Scale < 1725140195 160354 :troojg!~troojg@user/troojg QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds > 1725141437 593139 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137506&oldid=133450 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+111) 10 > 1725141761 950311 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Txet14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137507&oldid=137501 5* 03Fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff 5* (+0) 10/* interpreter */ > 1725141802 241871 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/upload14]]4 upload10 02 5* 03Ractangle 5* 10uploaded "[[02File:Undelta.jpg10]]" > 1725141998 412081 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Empty14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137509&oldid=136293 5* 03Fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff 5* (+40) 10/* Modulo */ > 1725142009 960840 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Empty14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137510&oldid=137509 5* 03Fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff 5* (+1) 10/* Modulo */ > 1725142078 765767 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Empty14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137511&oldid=137510 5* 03Fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff 5* (+10) 10/* Math */ > 1725142355 323370 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Undelta14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=137512 5* 03Ractangle 5* (+442) 10Created page with "{{WIP}} {{wrongtitle|title=[[File:Undelta.jpg|50px]]}} '''Undelta''' is an esolang created by [[User:Ractangle]] when the creator got his new phone (actually it's being made in it right now) ==Syntax== {| class="wikitable" ! Symbol !! Action |- | ~ || Pop the top of th < 1725143288 535402 :impomatic!~impomatic@2a00:23c7:5fbd:8001:d8c8:87ae:1405:e6af QUIT :Quit: Client closed > 1725143434 931564 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Talk:End14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137513&oldid=134098 5* 03Fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff 5* (+14) 10 > 1725143955 396632 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Page crapper from explain xkcd14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137514&oldid=137008 5* 03Tommyaweosme 5* (+122) 10 > 1725143987 695030 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Page crapper from explain xkcd14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137515&oldid=137514 5* 03Tommyaweosme 5* (+164) 10 < 1725144198 865412 :__monty__!~toonn@user/toonn QUIT :Quit: leaving > 1725144211 168175 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Tommyaweosme/unproblematic signature test14]]4 N10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=137516 5* 03Tommyaweosme 5* (+164) 10Created page with "bring back the old sandbox please ~~~~ : no we all hate you -ass23" > 1725144241 56965 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Tommyaweosme/unproblematic signature test14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137517&oldid=137516 5* 03Tommyaweosme 5* (+1) 10 > 1725144466 369564 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User:Tommyaweosme/unproblematic signature test14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137518&oldid=137517 5* 03Tommyaweosme 5* (+26) 10 > 1725144744 829006 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Markov algorithm14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137519&oldid=136647 5* 03Tommyaweosme 5* (+13) 10just letting people know how many floods of salt they need to take with the external link to... evilwiki > 1725144817 425317 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Markov algorithm14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137520&oldid=137519 5* 03Ais523 5* (-31) 10I agree that making it clear that links go to Wikipedia is a good idea, but there's an easier way to do it (consistently with the User: links) > 1725145448 506479 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/upload14]]4 upload10 02 5* 03Tommyaweosme 5* 10uploaded "[[02File:Example of markov chain.png10]]": darkmode enabled > 1725145518 317256 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Markov algorithm14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137522&oldid=137520 5* 03Tommyaweosme 5* (+80) 10 < 1725146498 269098 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :oh gah, that image is clearly a derivative of one taken from somewhere, but it's used in so many places I can't find the original source < 1725146570 478431 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :ah, I bet it's Wikipedia, lots of people copy from there > 1725146627 171907 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Special:Log/delete14]]4 delete10 02 5* 03Ais523 5* 10deleted "[[02File:Example of markov chain.png10]]": Copyright violation: derivative of https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Markovkate_01.svg (which is CC-by-sa-3.0 and not public domain) > 1725146668 988487 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07Markov algorithm14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137523&oldid=137522 5* 03Ais523 5* (-80) 10Undo revision [[Special:Diff/137522|137522]] by [[Special:Contributions/Tommyaweosme|Tommyaweosme]] ([[User talk:Tommyaweosme|talk]]) the added image was a copyright infringement (being a clear derivative of an image from Wikipedia, despite not being an exact copy) > 1725146796 639523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Tommyaweosme14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137524&oldid=137104 5* 03Ais523 5* (+451) 10/* Copyright violation */ new section < 1725146819 286853 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :the Wikipedia image said "own work" and that is enough to convince me – Wikipedia's normally quite good at catching people who are lying about that sort of hting < 1725146847 910871 :ais523!~ais523@user/ais523 PRIVMSG #esolangs :so having been there for over 11 years, it is likely to be a true claim > 1725148019 579643 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Tommyaweosme14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137525&oldid=137524 5* 03Tommyaweosme 5* (+157) 10/* Copyright violation */ > 1725148285 336029 PRIVMSG #esolangs :14[[07User talk:Tommyaweosme14]]4 10 02https://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=137526&oldid=137525 5* 03Ais523 5* (+981) 10/* Copyright violation */ Wikimedia Commons images are generally still copyrighted